why do people love Web of Shadows?

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    What is a symbiote? It is defined as a close relationship between two different species. Sometimes this is mutual, granting benefits to both, commensalism offering the benefit to one without the harm of the other. But some... are parasitic, infecting the host and feeding off its organs, twisting and distorting them to the detriment of the host, even to death. These are all characteristics of a symbiote, but one venomous character has become synonymous with the symbiote. A character so popular on the back of its host that it can’t help but infect the media of its opposition, at times to its benefit and at others, not so much. But let’s leave that idea to fester while we focus on another. The concept of Being Underrated.
    When something is referred to as Underrated, it is done as a means of explaining that the general public does not appreciate or value a product properly. If something is deemed Overrated, then one believes that public opinion levies too much praise to a product. As I have made that very statement, I can bet that you have had at least one video game come to mind. I know I did, Arkham Origins. Originally the black sheep of the franchise, it has in recent years been hailed from the rooftops as being an underrated gem that didn’t get its deserved praise because it had to fill the collosal boots of Arkham City. But at what point is an underrated gem, no longer underrated? If the general public believes that a product is underrated, is it still overrated? This is a question that applies to today's subject, Spider-Man Web of Shadows. A game so underrated that I believe it has entered a new sphere.
    But let me pose a question first, what does one do, when their favourite product is underrated? Simply, convince others of its true value. But in attempts to do so, some have fallen victim to embellishing a product with hopes of selling it to their audience, leading the product itself to become distorted, at the detriment of itself. I’m guilty of this myself. I was so convinced that the public was wrong about Assassin’s Creed Unity that I was blind to the game's flaws. In discussions online I’ve seen many, including myself, praise Web of Shadows as one of the most underrated and even one of the best Spider-Man games of our time. I don’t believe these takes are wrong. Web of Shadows has some excellent mechanics and systems with some setpieces being etched into my mind, but perhaps we are elevating this game so high that it is becoming Overrated. An overrated product breeds disappointment, which in itself perpetuates the overrated label until the poles shift again and the game is back to being underrated, which will bring lower, and eventually exceeded expectations. These labels are ones that feed off of games like Web of Shadows that have highs the likes of everest but the lows of the dirt, so let’s take a look at what is supposedly one of the most underrated Spider-Man games, and see if it truly is underrated and how a parasite of its own has festered and corrupted it from within.
    #spiderman #webofshadows #review
    Spider-Man Web of Shadows. Of referred to as the most underrated Spider-Man game. Is Web of Shadows REALLY Underrated? That is what I intend to answer in this Spider-Man Web of Shadows Critique, Spider-Man Web of Shadows Analysis, and Spider-Man Web of Shadows Review. Web of Shadows 14 Years Later holds up well and this Web of Shadows review, Web of Shadows Critique, Web of Shadows Analysis, and Web of Shadows Retrospective will discuss how. This Spider-Man Web of Shadows Retrospective will look at others who have called Spider-Man Web of Shadows Underrated while analysing the Spider-Man Web of Shadows Gameplay. Web of Shadows is hopefully the first in a long line of Spider-Man reviews on this channel.
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  • @ThatBoyAqua
    @ThatBoyAqua  ปีที่แล้ว +106

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    • @etabiansosin
      @etabiansosin ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How would you rewrite or Remake Spider-Man: Web of Shadows?

    • @PotatoObliteratorGD
      @PotatoObliteratorGD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@etabiansosin oh wow thats actually a good question. aqua needs to see this

    • @DrDeath998
      @DrDeath998 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha you okay you sound really tired in this video

    • @hodgindaylon
      @hodgindaylon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      my biggest issues with this game is the camera and how the web swinging works

    • @IamaPERSON
      @IamaPERSON ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@etabiansosinfirst off: fix Spidey’s voice. That’s the one thing that HAS to be fixed, before everything else.
      Two: make the side quests more bearable. They demand insanely high numbers for enemies beaten towards the end of the game.
      Three: have more missions where you fight alongside allies, because I liked that mechanic.
      Four: change the quiz questions to easier questions, like, “What’s the name of your Aunt and Uncle?”

  • @secretspider9233
    @secretspider9233 ปีที่แล้ว +1775

    Being honest this game with its dark ending and the design of symbiote black cat definitely awoke something in me, I wish it would get more attention

    • @Graveyard_Productions
      @Graveyard_Productions ปีที่แล้ว +143

      I blame this part of the game for every decision I made in my life hah

    • @h3llboyyy407
      @h3llboyyy407 ปีที่แล้ว +285

      black cat always wakes something up for teenage/prepubescent boys lmao

    • @Aryan-mc2td
      @Aryan-mc2td ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro's first ejaculation

    • @Dstryrr
      @Dstryrr ปีที่แล้ว +160

      Black Cat in this game is responsible for a lot of my taste in women.

    • @giusepperandazzo678
      @giusepperandazzo678 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Dstryrr SAME hahahahahah

  • @KingOfTheMonsters07
    @KingOfTheMonsters07 ปีที่แล้ว +2590

    This game's combat slaps so hard, I remember using a thug as a skate-board once.

    • @norman5985
      @norman5985 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      You must love devil may cry

    • @KingOfTheMonsters07
      @KingOfTheMonsters07 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@norman5985 Never played it, I want to tho.

    • @KingOfTheMonsters07
      @KingOfTheMonsters07 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@Largentina. Time 😔

    • @rackydacky2660
      @rackydacky2660 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @enzonoire
      @enzonoire ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah, you can do the same with boss fights 😂

  • @cesarmartorano6903
    @cesarmartorano6903 ปีที่แล้ว +655

    I just hope insomniac tries to adapt the 'on wall-combat'. It would be so dope

    • @mickeymouse7726
      @mickeymouse7726 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I hope that's one of the best parts of Spider-Man wen of shadows

    • @whatsalifewithoutawarry3994
      @whatsalifewithoutawarry3994 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They probably will since venom will actually be able to walk on walls

    • @DatPRGuy2017
      @DatPRGuy2017 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@whatsalifewithoutawarry3994 Heck Venom doesn't need to be the reason for it being there. In Web of Shadows there were criminals that had armour that allowed them to match up Spider-man's powers

    • @whatsalifewithoutawarry3994
      @whatsalifewithoutawarry3994 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DatPRGuy2017 yeah that’s unrealistic asf though and its hard to implement a wall combat when the building aren’t exactly flat

    • @DatPRGuy2017
      @DatPRGuy2017 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@whatsalifewithoutawarry3994 A game featuring a dude who got spider powers and we're worried about wall combat being unrealistic. Not all of the buildings in WOS were flat either. Heck Spider-Man 2 had Spidey fight Doc Ock on the side of a moving train. These games need to actually utilise the creative side of the character during combat rather than Arkham with webs and air attacks

  • @Y0U2BER
    @Y0U2BER ปีที่แล้ว +271

    Web of Shadows has the sickest combat of any Spiderman game. It's fast, visceral, flashy and cinematic. Insanely fun web swinging, dope boss fights, and 2 movesets are just icing on the cake.

    • @AL3X1KUS
      @AL3X1KUS 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Insomniac's Spider-Man games would like to know your location and argue with you.

    • @NopeNothingD9
      @NopeNothingD9 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@AL3X1KUSinsomniac games are by far the best web swinging. That with the good graphics and immersive open world make them the best if you just wanna swing around as Spider-Man. But in terms of combat I think this game beats insomniacs games any day

    • @prod.kidmizu
      @prod.kidmizu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@AL3X1KUSInsomniacs games are triple a titles and have amazing animations and cutscenes, the best version of nyc and now the wingsuit. But it technically has the worst swinging. The animations make it feel so good but it gets boring after awhile and the physics feel a little off still
      edit: and of course the combat in WOS is better

    • @FearsomeGodzilla420
      @FearsomeGodzilla420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@prod.kidmizuturn off swing assist and it will feel much better

    • @Kumo0toko
      @Kumo0toko 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@iHeartKnivesRoblox swinging in WOS is the best for experienced players that know how to web swing and you have control over your swinging then insomniac which you really don't it's just more stylish

  • @baki484
    @baki484 ปีที่แล้ว +735

    Now this is an underrated Spiderman game. The webstrike is perfect, air combat is great here especially in the vulture bossfight swinging is fast as hell and the seamless switching between the red and symbiote suit each with its advantages and disadvantages. Hope insomniac is taking notes for Spiderman 2.

    • @raulrojas9253
      @raulrojas9253 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      They won't, it will be the same game a 3rd time.

    • @DatPRGuy2017
      @DatPRGuy2017 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@raulrojas9253 Yeah Sony in a nutshell make the same shit but add new animations and better graphics to mask it up

    • @Duffyfactory
      @Duffyfactory ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@raulrojas9253not really a bad thing

    • @h3llboyyy407
      @h3llboyyy407 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@raulrojas9253 miles was a bit different they enhanced certain things like character when miles swings etc. So who knows what will happen when we finally get symbiote lol

    • @chaslous
      @chaslous ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@DatPRGuy2017 sony ain’t making the game. Insomniac doing they thing

  • @RulliSosa
    @RulliSosa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    That scene where he walks head down , while all that combat goes on around him, is prob my fav game scene of all time. Shows the struggles that comes with being spider man and how he alone is not enough always

  • @EvanLee531
    @EvanLee531 ปีที่แล้ว +236

    I remember playing this game more than 11 years ago, I was around 5th grade. One of the things that are still with me to this day, is this rotten feeling that was growing bigger and bigger as you progressed through the story and the city got more infected, dark and scary. I will never forget that feeling when I was progressed enough that the city now felt like a constant danger and ugliness instead of just a simple swinging around beating thugs and saving civies.

    • @kostarossides5062
      @kostarossides5062 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I was in grade 2 in 2011 and played it the exact same time you were playing it and you unlocked some core memories of the immersion I also felt as the game progressed while playing this as an 8 year old kid. Truly was a terrific game.

    • @bnsyphotography2104
      @bnsyphotography2104 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same. I was in grade 5 in 2011 too. Game is amazing. Remember seeing the trailer and being really hyped seeing all the villains in symbiote form. Especially being shocked wolverine was in it too. And his symbiote looked awesome.

    • @aryan7767
      @aryan7767 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got this game in grade 2 2010. Played it ?im not exaggerating I used to keep count) 30+ times till 2015

  • @thebeaver8456
    @thebeaver8456 ปีที่แล้ว +441

    Fun Fact the sequel was gonna drop the open world and be a level based game and focus even more on the combat. The best part is Wolverine would be a playable second character to make up for the lack of the black suit.

    • @bobic8431
      @bobic8431 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      And this sequel turned into Shattered Dimensions

    • @thisbubblygoodness7611
      @thisbubblygoodness7611 ปีที่แล้ว +176

      @@bobic8431 probably for the best, a level based 'Web of Shadows' sequel sounds like an utter let down

    • @thebeaver8456
      @thebeaver8456 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thisbubblygoodness7611 imo it would be epic but hey to each their own

    • @thebeaver8456
      @thebeaver8456 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@bobic8431 yep because Shaba games closed down and benox stepped up and made sd

    • @thisbubblygoodness7611
      @thisbubblygoodness7611 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@thebeaver8456 thats fair my dude, me personally, I'll never get enough of open world spider-man games, I can't go back.

  • @johnjohnson7259
    @johnjohnson7259 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Such a shame the studio got shut down. IMO this is the best Spider-Man game out there

  • @roddarodda2080
    @roddarodda2080 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    This is still my favorite Spiderman game. Definitely worthy of a remake.

    • @omen4304
      @omen4304 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same man I remember playing this a lot 6 years ago when I was playing every spiderman game and I got web of shadows and I got addicted to it like I was a guy that loved infamous and still do so I loved the choice options man such a great game I hope spiderman 2 does something good with combat and symbiote hopefully and allows to switch instantly l

    • @phoenixforce5294
      @phoenixforce5294 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      omg i would love a remake

    • @oxfordeducatedhighschoolhe6989
      @oxfordeducatedhighschoolhe6989 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@phoenixforce5294 Yeah pay 70$ for a game you already have....

    • @phoenixforce5294
      @phoenixforce5294 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@oxfordeducatedhighschoolhe6989 Unless I or someone else doesn't have it🤷 not everyone in the world still has this game not sure if you know that lol

    • @oxfordeducatedhighschoolhe6989
      @oxfordeducatedhighschoolhe6989 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phoenixforce5294 Buy it then.

  • @wnihaunter3943
    @wnihaunter3943 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    hats off to SHABA games, first time making a spidey game, in 17 months, im very impressed

  • @mixednarwhal
    @mixednarwhal ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The first black cat costume and body proportions definitely awoke something within me and always found myself being drawn to black cat related Spider-Man stuff

  • @serious_russian2270
    @serious_russian2270 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    It's really interesting, that Insomniac didn't think of this. You can transition through Web-Strike, and it give you directions and change of scenery. I also remember during my playthroughs I used to go initiate the symbiotes on ground, transition to a wall, but if the fight is overwhelming, I would go onto the roof, knowing they will follow, rest and reinitiate. Brilliant system. Insomniac could value a lot implementing this in Spider-Man finale. A giant leap from arena combat in first 2 games

  • @AcontheWebHead
    @AcontheWebHead ปีที่แล้ว +289

    Playing this game recently, there's just too much to praise in the combat. Easily my favorite combat from any Spider-Man game, even with the combat flow and style of the Insomniac Games being as beautiful as it is. I'm hoping the sequel will bring a more intricate web strike so that all four of the face buttons can do something different. That web strike system was the best and it was never utilized again.

    • @DestinySpider
      @DestinySpider ปีที่แล้ว +17

      welllll, the way ps4's combat works, they probably shouldn't be adding webstrike followups to X and O, but I don't think them putting some on square and triangle would clash with anything, so let's hope they do that.
      Would feel awesome to do some sick tricks on dudes

    • @AcontheWebHead
      @AcontheWebHead ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DestinySpiderYou got a point. But where I'm coming from with this is that with web of shadows, the jump button was technically the dodge so-to-speak with web strikes. They could make pressing X during the webstrike from WoS equal to that of dodging from the new ones. Hell, charge jumping in the insomniac games counts as a dodge from what I've seen, so I don't see why not. As for what O would do, I was thinking something similar to how it could web up the enemy while going to them for extra utility. This way you can still dodge at any moment but that'd mess with muscle memory most likely. None of this is likely to happen anyway but I like to theorize.

    • @nathanmallory8111
      @nathanmallory8111 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And don’t forget the wall combat, they never brought that back either

    • @Dstryrr
      @Dstryrr ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I feel that Insomniac's combat is like a neutered version of the Arkham games. It's fairly simple and gives up potential complexities in favor of cinematics. Which is fine for what they were going for, but as a hard-core gamer who plays games like DMC all the time, it just wasn't my cup of tea

    • @AcontheWebHead
      @AcontheWebHead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dstryrr I agree completely

  • @john-tobeymaguirecena
    @john-tobeymaguirecena ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Devil May Cry X Spider-Man
    Kickflippin’ enemies & breakdancing on walls. I’ll *Forever* love this game

  • @thebombers2160
    @thebombers2160 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Aw man your videos are really starting to go hard. Keep it up with that cinematic feel in the writing, and your clean easy on the viewer editing style. Been watching you since the ultimate Spider-Man video man. I know how much of an undertaking making BEEG vids like this are.

    • @ThatBoyAqua
      @ThatBoyAqua  ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Holy shit you’ve been watching a while, thank you! I’m glad I’ve improved over the past bit, and I hope I can continue to get better!

  • @gerrymcwilliam
    @gerrymcwilliam ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Combat was always fun plus having Spiderman take a darker path is always interesting considering how Peter Parker is as a person. Yeah they may be edgier version of him in alternate universes but seeing this as a kid blew my mind.

  • @AyBee9725
    @AyBee9725 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Spoilers for Spider-Man 2 on the PS5 but
    it did the Web of Shadows symbiotic-ified NYC AMAZINGLY well.

    • @giftheck
      @giftheck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It really makes me wish we could mod those models into Web of Shadows, because it would actually look pretty cool. Alas, we're stuck with TexMod (which TBF can be used to do some pretty cool texture stuff).

  • @ashvinjagadeesan5217
    @ashvinjagadeesan5217 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think a big part of web of shadow’s appreciation comes from the kids who played Spider-Man-2/3. As a pre-teen, I loved this game because it felt like a step up from Spider-Man 2.

  • @DishonoredSkull
    @DishonoredSkull ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I actually really hope the next spiderman game takes more inspiration from this games combat and Web slinging. I adore this game to death and even Shattered Dimensions.

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's gonna be a sequel to miles likely

    • @austinbatton4849
      @austinbatton4849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheReZisTLustgood

    • @DishonoredSkull
      @DishonoredSkull 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lucgermain9310Been looking at that yeah, honestly drew more than I expected. Seems fantastic and cant wait to play it.

  • @mido3071
    @mido3071 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Another web of shadows review that fails to mention that you can web parachute civilians to safety mid-air which is a really cool hidden feature.
    Great video though !

    • @youforget1000thingsaday
      @youforget1000thingsaday ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Me and my cousin did that all the time, lmfao

    • @TheArgentinianStealer
      @TheArgentinianStealer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait what how

    • @mido3071
      @mido3071 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheArgentinianStealer
      just carry someone, and while swinging in the air press "z" (the web shoot button).

    • @PJDevaney
      @PJDevaney 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I loved parachuting them into the water lol

    • @Amaryryry
      @Amaryryry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wish they went into more detail on the movement and web-swinging as well. It is by far some of the best in the series. The amount of momentum you can get from the seemingly useless "timed ground hop" and the gd AIR DODGE of all things is just mind-blowing. You can also carry a stupid amount of momentum with the animations from some of the special skills, and even GAIN height. Like, I cannot stress how bonkers the skill ceiling for movement is in this game lmao.

  • @YYesImCrazYY
    @YYesImCrazYY ปีที่แล้ว +43

    So glad I found this channel your videos are so well made man.
    Your voice is nice to listen to and all the facts you sprinkle into these make them so entertaining.
    Usually I put videos this long on in the background but for most of your vids I actually full on watch them.
    Keep up the great work!

  • @moviehermit5631
    @moviehermit5631 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly, the more I played Spider-man 2, the more it felt like it was a remaster (in a way) to web of shadows.
    - Changing into the black/berserker suit in combat with the surge ability
    - Symbiote abilities that utilize tendrils and aggressive dialogue
    - The theme of corruption
    - Teaming up with other heroes in combat sections (instead of calling them in, it’s random encounters during crimes)
    - Symbiote invasion in the big third act and using a device to wipe out all the symbiote’s at once
    - Venom powering up with the host fighting against the Symbiote and willing to die to stop it
    - Relationship drama with MJ brought on by the suit
    - Symbiote “nests” that pull in and convert people into symbiotes
    It basically took a bunch of cues as inspiration to applied these concepts within the context of their own gameplay and story.

  • @theeyetriangle
    @theeyetriangle ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If the game alignment is truly based on which suit you use more often that would be incredibly sick

  • @mmorpgal4229
    @mmorpgal4229 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Thanks for the rush of memories.. It was an excellent game to play.

  • @spiral68934
    @spiral68934 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This a a skill that many don’t know but you can pickup random civilians and throw them but when you throw them they are equipped with a wed parachute so far my favorite feature

  • @dantederi5062
    @dantederi5062 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Personally, I think this game has great ideas for gameplay and story but held back by it's execution cause not of all it succeeds. Imagine a web of shadow remake by insomniac, it would be freakin awesome. Who wouldn't want to play as spiderman with super heroes and super villains at your side. And the story is fu*kin epic, feels like an invasion or war at the end, you feel like you really have allies and faction.

    • @DatPRGuy2017
      @DatPRGuy2017 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Nah. Insomniac wouldn't do it justice. It would just be a regular Sony game with handholdy elements. WoS charm is that it's essentially a character action game with a pre Infamous choice system and traversal which actually requires some skill and not just scripted animations. What Insomniac specialises in is heroes with tons of gadgets and WoS isn't in their alley. Platinum, Team Ninja or Capcom making a Spider-Man game makes more sense since they're kings of stylish fast paced action with player urgency and little automation

    • @dantederi5062
      @dantederi5062 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DatPRGuy2017 swinging with real physics is one of the ideas that if implemented by insomniac level of quality it would be awesome. But yeah, I see where you're coming from.

    • @therentpursuer9869
      @therentpursuer9869 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @dageekyboi2214 Exactly. The insomniac games don't even have freaking hitboxes for Spidey's melee attacks. And despite having some admittedly impressive combo videos, the system is so dependent on switching gadgets via a pace-breaking menu wheel. And Even *if* that wasn't the case it'd still never reach the depth of a game like Web of Shadows (and if you want to even further bully it, DMC) because it's trying to be realistic with its physics.
      If you ask me, the only thing Insomniac has over WoS is that....uhhh it's optimized better. You're not exactly gonna win any awards for that. That's expected. Oh wait, there are stable framerate mods for WoS? Well ain't that just awkward for you, Insomniac.

    • @NAFEDUDE
      @NAFEDUDE ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@therentpursuer9869 incredible how people say "you can mod the game to fix its problems so the game that doesn't have those problems to begin with should feel bad."
      Like that really gives the whole game away, just doing mental gymnastics to say the thing you like's flaws don't count because a third-party mod you can't use on console anyway can fix them

    • @therentpursuer9869
      @therentpursuer9869 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @NAFEDUDE That is true, though to be fair I'm sure if a studio were to port WoS to modern systems (which will never happen) I'm sure they'd clean up its optimization issues.

  • @HatKidPeck
    @HatKidPeck ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It’s combat is a 10/10 and it’s considered to have the best swinging in any Spider-Man game alongside Spider-Man 2.

  • @optimus_antt
    @optimus_antt ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I remember crying and begging my dad to buy this game when I was little. And glad to say I still own it😂

  • @liam6157
    @liam6157 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I loved Spider-Man before this, but became obsessed after. The 1st boss battle with wolverine sent me straight to he wiki to learn the answers to his questions, which sent me down the Spider-Man rabbit hole on the wiki, then branched off from there. This game holds a special place in my heart

  • @cajs9964
    @cajs9964 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A man who accepts his flaws and try to improve deserves a sub

  • @DanielFlores-th7de
    @DanielFlores-th7de ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would love to see a remaster of this game made today. Seeing a symbiotic New York with todays graphics would be the greatest thing from any Spider-Man game

    • @nate.infinity
      @nate.infinity 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you got your wish

  • @cashkam7794
    @cashkam7794 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    amazing childhood memories waking up, fixing me a bowl of ice cream for breakfast on a saturday morning and playing this on my xbox 360. man i wish i could have those simple times back

  • @Joseph-s
    @Joseph-s ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We all just need Spiderman web of shadows but polished.

  • @DigitalArctic
    @DigitalArctic ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Hot take: I've played at max level but prefer trying to play this game without ever collecting a single token and therefore never leveling up. Having so little health adds much needed risk to the games combat, having a one time special instead of a special you can spam makes you consider what attacks you use, and your base swing speed is flexible enough that high speed can still be reached with enough skill. Plus trying to dodge the many tokens in combat encourages more environmental awareness, and creativity in avoiding nigh mandatory tokens in certain missions.

    • @DatPRGuy2017
      @DatPRGuy2017 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Honestly same
      I also did the same thing with X-Men Origins Wolverine. I never upgraded the damage the claws could do and it made combos much more fun to do since enemies won't go down so quickly and it makes encounters risky

    • @robertwyatt3912
      @robertwyatt3912 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tokens only give you speed, though

    • @DigitalArctic
      @DigitalArctic ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@robertwyatt3912 That's not true, they also upgrade your health meter and special meter, making it legitimately hard to die at max level and giving you the ability to spam an absurd amount of special attacks in a row, making you OP. The Meters also increase in size as you level up, so you can check out a blind playthrough compared to a fully upgraded NG+ one. (Your meters are literally cut in half at level 1, while max level ones are equal to the length of Spider-Mans head portrait.)

    • @DigitalArctic
      @DigitalArctic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Jiub_SN True, but I feel the game should be somewhat difficult when you're fighting an army of Venoms who all have similar powers to Spider-man.
      I don't mind being OP in the first half when you're fighting crime. (At that point if it was hard it ruins the Power Fantasy like you said.) I just don't like to be OP in the Symbiote Invasion half of the game, especially with how much combat there is. It gets kinda boring for me when I'm one shotting every "Super Symbiote" who are all supposed to be strong enough to overpower other Super Heroes like Wolverine.

  • @wnihaunter3943
    @wnihaunter3943 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    btw, purposeless rabbitholes has great video breaking down the traversal mechanics. if you really want to swing like a big boi

  • @randonroth1579
    @randonroth1579 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    25:36 the ground upgrade 2 or 3 combo for the red suit. The one that ends with Spider-Man doing his air kick into the ground. Destroys mech almost consistently from full health if you can get the combo off. It'll be the most damage you see in the game.
    My personal advice is to have the kick connect in-between the mech's legs

  • @teneesh3376
    @teneesh3376 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The potential for this game is massive. No other spidey game has combat or traversal as deep as this. I was hoping Insomniac would make their game more inspired by this game in terms of mechanics. Sadly it's likely they would keep it safe and not change a lot. It would be likely be just as flashy but with little substance to it

  • @BullyMaguire314
    @BullyMaguire314 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hyped for new upload!!! Your intros are always amazing

  • @xxprototypexx5056
    @xxprototypexx5056 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool fact: this game was actually going to get a spinoff where you were gonna play as venom infecting the city, but the idea was scrapped, and the game in question was turned into its own IP known as PROTOTYPE. It's also why many of the abilities in that game series are very venom like.

  • @stachorski6947
    @stachorski6947 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    25:30 You can use last attack(drop kick) of red suit combo. It can one shoot mech when perfom well. The best way is to be near mech wait for begin of his smash to ground stomp, Doge and start combo. Also web shooters can deal dmg, you can counter rocket when you time block and then rocket will hit mech(its hard because when you block too soon the rocket will fly above you).

  • @mfstraight
    @mfstraight ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't think of another superhero combat move as satisfying as Web of Shadows Spider-Man swinging feet-first into a crowd of zombies and knocking them over like bowling pins. Never got tired of it.

  • @moefrd
    @moefrd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    it’s really awesome seeing a video like this, i grew up with web of shadows when i was really young and most of my life i dont think i really knew of or heard anyone talk about this game. it’s definitely got it’s flaws and the Wii controls were rough at times but i still had so much fun with it! i got scared and quit the game when the symbiote stuff started taking off more but i revisited it years later and damn, i was so surprised at how much fun i had

  • @kennybrownjr3991
    @kennybrownjr3991 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the Content! Keep Striving!

  • @MasonOfLife
    @MasonOfLife ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! I loved this game back in the day, this makes me want to replay it

  • @goofygoober779
    @goofygoober779 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I remember really enjoying this game's dark story choices regarding black cat when I was a teenager. It definitely made me aware of some things I felt towards Black Cat.

  • @hyoonoot
    @hyoonoot 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This game is genuinely PHENOMENAL. I thought it was blind nostalgia, as i used to play it when i was younger... but upon replaying... its still really damn good

  • @NEMOsleeps24
    @NEMOsleeps24 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My favorite part of this game was the rockstar knee slide that blacksuit Spidey would do up the side of buildings. I laughed so hard the first time i saw it. I also was glad that Luke Cage was in there

  • @Max44321
    @Max44321 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Web of Shadows has to be the second best Spider-Man game ever made. The first place is reserved for a yet-not-existing game that can take WoS' combat, swinging and themes-as-gameplay and mix it with a better city presentation and mission structure. This game is like 75% combat and my only gripe about that is that there's not enough combat! Or rather, more tougher enemies which can take your immense destructive power halfway through the game and onwards.
    It was also a game to tide me over until [Prototype] finally released, and those games are quite similar below the surface, both even have the bodysurf move!

    • @DatPRGuy2017
      @DatPRGuy2017 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I just replied to someone that WOS biggest issues were how it layed out most of its side and main missions. Previous Spider-Man games tried to make sure missions weren't mostly just combat based whereas WOS makes most of its main and side stuff combat and so as a result it brings down the quality for some

  • @liamhuls470
    @liamhuls470 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Because there's no MJ missions.
    Played this when it came out and it still holds up to a majority of games today.

  • @MODZGAMINGYT
    @MODZGAMINGYT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One of the best synopsis/reviews of the best Spider-Man games I've ever played. Idk why but the ability to play with both suits and different play styles and how they affect Peter and his eventual decision making throughout the game just blew me away. At the time it was groundbreaking and a MUCH needed bounce back from the monstrosity that was Spider-Man 3.
    I LOVE Spider-Man 2 (the new one PS5) and the ability to play as both Peter and Miles and the return of the Symbiote storyline as that has always been my favorite part of Spider-Man because it's dark and easily the most formidable opponent Spidey has ever faced. But even Spider-Man 2 has parts lacking when compared to Web of Shadows. I won't get into all of them but WOS has far more replayability and a longer more satisfying storyline. WOS has it negatives, but they are not many.
    I beat that game at least 4 or 5 times and had as much fun as I could the entire time doing it. Anyways I respect your intelligence and knowledge of the game and thank you for this video I'm sure it took eons to put it all together. Great job and congratulations sir I salute you!
    🫡🤜🤛👍

  • @xiaowithaslimeonhishead6122
    @xiaowithaslimeonhishead6122 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love watching good reviews about this game. I haven't had the opportunity to play it yet but I love what I've seen, especially the combat

  • @TerrorofDeathDGX
    @TerrorofDeathDGX ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a huge sucker for open world spider man games. I loved Spiderman 2, played Ultimate Spiderman so many times I lost count, and Web of Shadows was probably my first "Platinum" achievement (because 360 didn't have Platinum trophies). I always enjoyed the heck out of WoS, and this retrospective reminded me of all the good that game did.

  • @ninemugetsu
    @ninemugetsu ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Love this game, I really wish we got a game with similar mechanics that improved upon WoS flaws

  • @auwwwahahaahahahahahhaha
    @auwwwahahaahahahahahhaha ปีที่แล้ว

    Usually i dont watch hour long videos, but i didnt even realize it was that long until it finished. Ive finished this game countless times as a child and to this day i still find new things about it. You've got one more sub keep it up

  • @Zurenarrh
    @Zurenarrh ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This very game is the BEST game I have ever played. Im heavily biased because its just so good. Here this game lets you become a VILLAIN as Spider-Man! WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT? the story is top notch.

    • @austinbatton4849
      @austinbatton4849 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yikes lmao

    • @CaptainEffort
      @CaptainEffort 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@austinbatton4849seriously

  • @AnimeViewer181
    @AnimeViewer181 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I always loved the symbiote's concept in Spider-Man's universe. Also, the combat system and the fact that you could change suits mid-game just by pressing a button was what made me fall for this game.

  • @Dgamer-kq5kt
    @Dgamer-kq5kt ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would LOVE a remake of this game so much. I would add a suit lock-on feature that would let you stay in the suit that you are wearing and turn it off whenever you want to switch back. You would definitely have to add the Raimi alternative suits. I agree with your ideas on your red and black suit moral choices. Also, add a difficulty level and have the NG+ immediately available when you beat the game.

  • @Devilsblight86
    @Devilsblight86 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've recently started replaying this. I still love it!

  • @toshal22
    @toshal22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My top spiderman game that I finished when you needed to put in the play disk for the game in PC every time you had to play. Changing of suits mid battle or anytime you were flying(swinging) through the air while changing animations in itself deserves a high praise for the time.

  • @stanfordfeynman2796
    @stanfordfeynman2796 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At the very least, unlike the Insomniac games so far, I CAN HOLD ON TO MY GODDAMN WEBLINE WITHOUT IT FORCING ME TO DO THE SAME BORING ARC OVER AND OVER. The fact that SM2, USM, SM3, and WoS already got this right makes it baffling it never came back

  • @batgaming9648
    @batgaming9648 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Spiderman WoS is my favourite Spiderman Game to this date. Maybe Marvels Spiderman 2 will surpass it but they have to really work on the gameplay.

  • @D5_2110
    @D5_2110 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best video you've done loved web of shadows as a kid

  • @tmavibes
    @tmavibes ปีที่แล้ว +8

    No Spider-Man game can beat web of shadows combat . Not even 2018 spider man or miles morales. Web of shadows combat was too great. Especially the wall fights

  • @AlexWebb101
    @AlexWebb101 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The voice acting alone should make this game a 10/10

    • @ThatBoyAqua
      @ThatBoyAqua  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Your videos are 10/10 😳

  • @luigi7781
    @luigi7781 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Best combat an web swinging goes to this gem of a game ❤❤❤

  • @bctalicorn809
    @bctalicorn809 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I rented this game on Wii from Family Video back in 2011, and it was the first video game I ever played for 12 hours in one 24-hour period. I played it from 7:00 that Friday night to 3:00 in the morning, woke up at 9:00 on Saturday and immediately played it and didn't stop except for food and bathroom breaks until 5:00. I just could not put it down. The freedom of swinging, the quick, snappy, and versatile web strike, and the combat was such an unbelievable power trip that I have a hard time putting it into words. This was the game that made me "me like Spider-Man".
    And I loved Peter's nasally voice, he sounded like such a dork and I thought it was perfect.
    The Wii version is actually far superior to the 360/PS3 versions of the game, despite the very noticeable graphical downgrade. There are exclusive abilites like pick up any civilian while web slinging and being able to throw most objects with the tendrils, and rewarded you for finding spider emblems with alternate suits. Plus, it's one of the few third party Wii games with motion controls that actually function properly, and it makes the swinging and web striking mechanic more engaging.
    Anyways, WoS is ridiculously good when it's good, and its faults are negligible to me. They just don't even come close to ruining such a fun game.

  • @arcadeassassin7176
    @arcadeassassin7176 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i think this would be the perfect gameplay for a spider-man 2099 game. you could even have the two different move sets with normal being fists and black suit being claws.

  • @wnihaunter3943
    @wnihaunter3943 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this game still has the BEST web swinging in any spiderman game ever made(yes, im including the insomniac games)

  • @ajfgerfer
    @ajfgerfer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love this game so much. i’ve hung on to my xbox 360 copy for years and i’m happy to see it get some much needed attention and praise

  • @Viper-dz2kw
    @Viper-dz2kw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had the version of this game that was a sidescroller (think it was for DS) and they got around the alignment thing by forcing you to make the alignment choice of the suit you were in when you finished the fight, sure you could change back right before but it definitely made you feel the weight of your actions if you forgot to switch to good guy mode or accidentally beat an enemy too fast in the black suit and got stuck with the bad guy dialogue and decision point

  • @speedforcex
    @speedforcex ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Its definitely the unique mechanics/combat and variety. You can feel like spiderman while still having your own style. This is an aspect spiderman ps4 lacks the arial combat is severely limited to like 2 moves, only 1 trick button, combos get repetitive and no wall crawling combat at all or interesting mechanics besides what's been done before.

    • @DatPRGuy2017
      @DatPRGuy2017 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah my main issue with Spider-Man PS4 is that it's a "checklist" videogame and doesn't do anything mind-blowing. Swinging is just a shallow though visually stunning adaptation of the Treyarch Spider-Man system, gadget wheel is mostly from Ratchet and Clank and Spider-Man Friend or Foe, combat is just a modified Arkham combat with dodges instead of counters and shit air combat. It's not remotely mind-blowing with what it does gameplay wise
      Unlike Arkham Asylum (which came out at a time where most superhero games either had basic beat-em-up elements, were God of War/DmC clones or RPGs) bringing more to superhero titles or even Web of Shadows which utilised the characters powers to the max allowing him to fight on walls, do cook moves on air and switch suits on the fly

  • @mememan3799
    @mememan3799 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Web of shadows is amazing. Before I fully switched to my next gen ps4, I made sure to do one last WOS playthrough before I put the PS3 in storage.

  • @u.d3265
    @u.d3265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro is popping off with these amazing intros

  • @arjeshh
    @arjeshh ปีที่แล้ว

    really loved this video!!!!!

  • @LordDeathAku
    @LordDeathAku ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Insomniac just really needs to buy the rights for this game and make a remaster of it with the same gameplay mechanics; no tweaks that mess up the originality of the game. Except for A few new stuff added in that add more to the game. Fully remastered with Unreal Engine 5

    • @DatPRGuy2017
      @DatPRGuy2017 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, Web of Shadows was made with character action in mind. I'd rather Capcom, Platinum Games or even Team Ninja do anything WoS related since they're good at that type of gameplay
      Insomniac doesn't fit at all

    • @JJ-zo7jv
      @JJ-zo7jv ปีที่แล้ว

      Insomniac definitely understands Spider-Man very well. They know, to some degree, what fans like about the predecessor games and what they expect. For some reason it just didn’t land quite right. Here’s to hoping Spider-Man 2 makes the first one look like an early first build. I fear they won’t get the web swinging right from what we’ve seen but I remain optimistic. Aside from the swinging, I thoroughly enjoy everything else.

    • @CaptainEffort
      @CaptainEffort 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠@@JJ-zo7jvYou’re entitled to your opinion, but this is a crazy take. Saying that one of the best games to release that year “just didn’t land quite right” is already wild, but then saying that they didn’t get the swinging right, despite that being a primary point of praise, is somehow even crazier.
      You can prefer WoS, but Insomniac’s Spider-Man was an overwhelming success and an excellently made game.

  • @LittleGoblinJR
    @LittleGoblinJR ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really great game. It has a decent story, a really great combat system especially when it's all maxed out, and I love how the combat changes once you're in the Symbiote suit, though I still preferred fighting in the normal red and blue suit (felt smoother and overall more consistent), and the web swinging is also really great. The voice acting could honestly be a little better, I couldn't stand characters like MJ and Black Widow don't ask me. Villains like Venom were also really hard to understand in the final fight. But It's by far my most liked Spider-Man game after Spider-Man PS4.

  • @pillar_sol1940
    @pillar_sol1940 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh the combos in this game were so vicious, using people as skateboards hitting that 100 multipunch in the red suit was crazy

  • @jonathanbyers7249
    @jonathanbyers7249 ปีที่แล้ว

    the figthing mechanic are so satisfy to play, and also the multiple ending made this game feel so great

  • @Crow894
    @Crow894 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You always have a beautiful way of managing your opinion while also providing insight and knowledge. There’s no heavy bias and you respect the other side wholeheartedly, no hate, no disrespect, and most importantly enough honesty to really move someone. You truly are one of the few civilized people there are In the world when it comes to laying down your mind.

  • @Vman_95
    @Vman_95 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Web of shadows never felt like usual spiderman game, it got some sorta dark vibe overall with choices that can either will make you hero or menace in the end 🔥💯

  • @ghostwarrior3878
    @ghostwarrior3878 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always remembered the interaction with black cat when I played Web of Shadows, and I always chose to accept her confession. Mostly because I'm a huge fan of the pair.

  • @reynielurquiola7115
    @reynielurquiola7115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Insomniac is basically doing the same premise in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 so it's basically a worthy indirect remake of this game and I honestly can't wait

  • @jman2856
    @jman2856 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like Web of Shadows a lot but I just think due to budget constraints and a rushed deadline, a lot of the gameplay ended up feeling like Web Strike the Game. I love the Web Strike and the game is long enough to where it never gets dull but the fact that the final boss is really just Web Strike four heads and then QTE just leaves me with wanting more.

  • @bobd2078
    @bobd2078 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the combat and the fact that we pretty much got a Spider-Man game with zombies. It was just really cool. So cool that we overlooked all the bugs and flaws in the story

  • @spyder4922
    @spyder4922 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soon as I got this for the Wii I played this game to death, the combat was so satisfying especially since you could morph your tendrils into weapons similar to Carnage, the Blue Suit also was super fun especially for it's faster combat system, I did enjoy the hero summon ability and on the Wii the suits menu, Spider-Carnage was my favourite to use. the story itself was so immersive and always had me excited for every single mission. seeing the city from once looking bright and colourful to it's dark and terrifying apocalyptic symbiote infested city.
    I wish more games had a morality metre and even choosing different paths to affect the story and ending too

  • @youngviper10
    @youngviper10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The first Spider-Man game I fully played through and loved 🙏🏾💯

  • @jeanbalsec3310
    @jeanbalsec3310 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This game gave to us everything that any other spidey game couldn't give, it has some flaws but it's still the best spiderman experience in my opinion even in this days

  • @valthepal2004
    @valthepal2004 ปีที่แล้ว

    didn't expect that you to review my favourite spiderman game. love u for doing this

  • @PsychoMagnet
    @PsychoMagnet ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still replay this game till this day. Idk how many times I've beat it but the combat and web swinging is so good.

  • @Las3Ms_
    @Las3Ms_ ปีที่แล้ว +29

    While this might not be the greatest Spider-Man game, It has without a doubt the best combat out of all of them imo, With Shattered Dimensions coming in a close second.

    • @largeboi4678
      @largeboi4678 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s definitely my favorite, and yeah the combat is insane! I love using people as skateboards and kicking them up walls lol

    • @Zurenarrh
      @Zurenarrh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Your opinion is wrong.
      My opinion is right
      This is THE BEST spiderman game.

  • @BlackStar-gv1wl
    @BlackStar-gv1wl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yeah now all the insomniac d riders wanna disrespect this game

  • @hahajenkins
    @hahajenkins ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The biggest payoff the decisions had i found when i played the first few times was that the more you either embrace his heroic side picking red or indulging in the darker side in the black choice, the culmination of those decisions are what make the game chose a side for you at the end with the fight with Vulture. My man, you hit every mark. This shit is my favorite game since i was little and I’m almost out of college now so to get high to a vid about my favorite childhood game that talks about each aspect is dope. Nice job, sir.

  • @omegaderose4342
    @omegaderose4342 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    go and evil choices, manny symbiote versions of villains, the one move that lets you sue enemies as a skatebord and ride then on the ground

  • @ianbell8642
    @ianbell8642 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Web of Shadows > Spider-man ps4

    • @baki484
      @baki484 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has things Spiderman 2 should use.

    • @ianbell8642
      @ianbell8642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@baki484the air combat....

    • @patrickdixon7202
      @patrickdixon7202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope.

    • @ianbell8642
      @ianbell8642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickdixon7202 yep

    • @patrickdixon7202
      @patrickdixon7202 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ianbell8642 🤡

  • @FearGivesWings
    @FearGivesWings 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One little detail I love about this game is that Spiderman blocking animation is just like Marvel vs Capcom

  • @RonOnyx
    @RonOnyx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMG I NEVER THOUGHT ID SEE THIS AQUA PLEASE TELL US HOW YOU GOT YOUR HANDS ON THIS GAME

  • @FireSonic102
    @FireSonic102 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate your decision to use music from other spider-man games for the vid, super nice touch.

  • @jarrodsullivan9230
    @jarrodsullivan9230 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great shit. you've earned my sub good sir!