1. Chapparal If you know how to use IR missiles than its fine 2. the Nashorn is literally the definition of a glass cannon it sacrifices armor with its gun that you should be sniping with 3. IT-1 is not even close to being bad idk what you are smoking 4. Ratel 90 isnt the best but you also have the Skink in your lineup which is a better contender 5. Type 60 is fair cant argue there 6. type 63 is another fair one but you could also argue the Chinese PT-76 since that literally got removed but this works 7. Italy you could have just said the Arietes or the C13 T90 8. AMX-13 Hot is another not bad choice 9. Ikv 103 is another glass cannon but with a great HEAT-FS shell at 4.0 decent mobility too would have said the Pvkv IV 10. the TCM-20 is also alright for this since its got no lineup and doesnt even do well at 6.0 where the tech tree actually starts
3. It1 is bad because In the same tier, same tree, same br You can get the t55 AMD, it has rangefinder, apfsds, and the same penning atgm, with active protection system too
@@Rasmos user literally have the strongest 8.7 line up, t55 a,am, amd, t10m, t62, obj 906, obj 476, zsu 57/2, bmp2, bmp1 All perfome the same, if not straight up better than it1....
I've noticed that Gaijin always choses the worst maps for any tank you might want to play : - You have a very good sniping medium tank with zero armour ? Okay, we have a city map for you (AMX-30B2 sure is a pain) ; - You have a heavy tank with lots of armour but a poorly accurate gun ? Okay, there's a wide open field for you to be CAS'ed like a mofo all the battle (IS-6 in Syria is a pain too) ; - You want to use SPAA ? Ok, we give you a map with tall buildings or trees and nowhere to use your radar as it should be ; - You have a turret-less TD with no maneuverability ? Here are some narrow streets for you ! Gayjin sure knows how to ruin your experience, whatever you might want to do...
Nah, even when spaded it's mid. I can be on a flat road and I'm lucky to get past 50kph. Huge target, paper armor, and low post pen damage. Solid 4/10.
Imo, the Ratel 90 has been a saving grace at 6.7 ( I have the spitfire mk24 and the G6 to bring me up) The sheer versatility is much more than you get out of the Centurion by this point, scouting is always a sure fire way to get free points and SL, while also securing a plane slot. A functioning reverse gear is also a breath of fresh air. That on top of the great pen at its br makes it the best 6.3 vehicle for Britain. If any tank is the worst tank it is most probably the archer, but the spot could also be taken by the Churchill 1 ( only because there is now a better option at a much lower br and the introduction of Sweden single-handedly killed low br heavies
i remember a pasta boy whom we both knew but shall not be named, he got me to preorder the premium version of the 75/34 M24.. it's been like six years and i'm still upset.
The semovente M43 is good if you wanted a per say "rat casemate", it's profile is extremely small, you can hide behind most medium tanks and other than your antenna you're completely out of sight. Most people default to the HEAT rounds after you get them but the APHE rounds have good filler, albeit with less pen.
I agree. I don't use the Nashorn, but those Italian Tank destroyers are pretty fun, if you play them correctly. And they can bounce a surprising amount of shots.
@@MatthiasDrinksH20 Yep, i love those Italian shitboxes, especially the 105/25, 75/34 and the 75/46, they can bounce suprisingly well enough while dish out some great damage, as for the Nashorn, i quite liked it, its have a decent reload rate and great penetration for its tier, though a single HE above 40mm can kill it, overall it can perform well. If i were to choose the worst option from either one, then i would go for either the Pz.III B or the Pz 35 t, both are quite shite even for reserves, as for Italy i would go with the L3, its a meme but not a great vehicle, at all
@@rudolfthecat1176 He did, but i didn't said i would follow the same rule, Rank 1 is still part of the tech tree, its only fair to include them too regardless
@@K_Balu Well in that case most of the worst tanks would be rank 1, which is still a bad thing don't get me wrong, but most of these lists of "worst tanks in wr" already include them 😅
its also a lot smaller though, easier to bush up and rat about, with more gun traverse and the br is sort of meaningless since the gun both use is going to work fine all the way through 6.7
@@Spookoffiya gotta say dawg is shit if they think the ikv103 is bad. Thing is a monster in the right hands and as such if you think it's bad, that's a you problem. Also the m43 105 is a terror in the right spot, mainly in any situation where you can't be flanked easily. Because 105 heat will will delete everyone that gets hit with it
@@kazakhstanisastate4614 Nope, it's just Nashorn. German is one of those languages where the words are mostly pronounced like written, unlike certain languages 😒
The IT-1 used to be my favourite vehicle in the game. You could sit hull down and no one would be able to do anything. I had like a 2.5kd even though I was kind of bad at the game. The missile relies a lot on overpressure to kill things due to the lack of pen compared to other atgms. Now with the missile changes sitting hull down means you risk having your missile just hitting the ground most of the time
You gotta use your size to your advantage Italian vehicles were actually more designed for defensive actions in Italy's, mountainous and Urban terrain. So like don't duke it out in an open field with an Italian vehicle
@@bpw102896 i usually stomp with the M42 and M43 with the long 75. Honestly i regard them as quite literally better stugs since they have more armor or they reload quicker if i remember correctly (or at least the 4.3 M43 is better than all the stugs)
@@mazinger_mol5879 yep and once you learn to use their strengths you can take out things pretty easy just gotta learn to be patient hide and ambush especially on the urban maps you can donate the enemy especially since you can hide behind almost anything
Talks down the Nashorn for having a big gun and no armor. Ignores the majority of the Swedish vehicles doing the same thing but with an average gun instead.
As an Swedish Main i can say that the ikv 103 is one of my favorite vehicles because its small fast has good gun depression and the recoil just makes it so funny if you play it on a hill so you can get cover quick
The Ikv 103 has not been defended i see. I guess it's a task for me. Having 400 mm of pen and a good speed make him a realiable tank on open map. This tank can be used at high br, usefull if you don't have a full line up. You cannot say it's the worst sweedish tank when the CV 9030 family exist
Agreed, the 9030s are aweful at the br, the ikv103 has -16° so it is incredibly good if you can get behind a hill, suffers in city maps and def shouldn't be sped into the frontlines
Agree, the IKV 103 is obscenely mobile with a fantastic gun and decent reload, and was my designated heavy killer on my lineup up until 6.7, where it took the role of ferdinand killer
The cv9030 FIN is one of my favorite tanks in the game. Wide fov thermals + above average mobility means its a beast at flanking, where it's gun starts to be effective. Tracing the edge of the map and punching holes in oblivious tanks is extremely effective, plus if one noticed you you can disable its barrel and tracks before running away
Ratel 90 isn't bad. it's a big vehicule, but acceptable in its BR. ZT3 is worst, same chassis, autocannon area (8.3) and AGTM missing alot of depression. It's a horror to play with it.
Idk why but I keep thinking the pvkv 2 (the long shlong marder lookalike), get confused since it’s amazing then realize they are talking about that stupid medium tank that was so shit I never played it when possible
@@Spookoffi *in the right hands* you really have to aim with this thing cuz the damage after pen is kinda abysmal lol, the damage acts more like an APCR god help you if you get uptiered that said, not the worst maybe, but not a tank you would choose first into a match
My Opinions on all of these takes (based on the vehicles that I've researched and played (even spaded); 1. Chapparal: still in research. rarely saw them in my 9.3 games. 2. Nashorn isn't actually the worst tank for Germany. that title goes to the RakJpz 2 - before Gaijin gives it SACLOS rockets - 3. IT-1: no comment, but it does get over shadowed by its successors. 4. Ratel 20; definitely the worst of all of these vehicles here. it does *NO* damage. 5. Italy's low tier TDs are actually pretty decent and I personally think shouldn't have been shamed in this video. if theres a bad tank in Italy, its the C13 T90. Its like the Ratel 20 but has better mobility. no comments for the French, Japan, Sweden and Israel cause i dont have experience on those vehicles yet
If you ever do get to researching the Japanese tech tree for ground, you'll definitely tell that the Imperial Japanese ground forces were neglected by how their tanks function, you're either stuck with a glass cannon that does no damage at all (Like the Ha-Go or I-Go-Ko, hell even the Chi-Ha LG) or you have a glass cannon that does damage, but the second the enemy you're shooting at slightly goes hull down they become immune to your gun because of how shit the angle performance is on those tanks, trust me, Japan has some of the absolute worst starter tanks, but the post war / lend lease tanks and more modern tanks are pretty amazing, so I mean it's kinda worth researching if you're willing to drive yourself mad for some time during the grind
On the RakJpz2: The SACLOS is actually fine. It's very responsive and at range more stable than many ATGMs currently, with that weird jitter they have now. The issue is that the rockets drop from the launch platform like sacks of potatos (which IRL footage DOES NOT support), making using cover a gamble and low/mid range combat a nightmare, like with no other ATGM carrier.
As a Japan main who has also ground out a lot of France, the Type 60 ATM is quite in fact the worst vehicle in the game, they’re the slowest missile in game and they’re key guided. Although it is rewarding when you get any kills. As for the AMX-13-90 HOT, it’s just an overtiered AMX-13-90. That’s it. The missiles don’t redeem it.
RakJpz 2 is far, far from beign anywhere near the worst. Even with just WASD missiles, it's pretty good. And after Gaijin butchered the mouse-gouded missiles, WASD ones are actualyl a valid pick now. RakJpz 2 is actually better than the HOT. It still has more than enough pen but it has much betetr gun depression and two launchers, which is amazing.
@@DrSpoon-nd4uj you have the Chi-ha kai and Chi-he which are actually quite good, the low tier td's are definitely useable, and you can use the Ho-ro if you want to have fun while grinding. Only the starter tanks for Japan are really bad imo. I had a way worse time playing French rank 1 😅
The IT-1 is powerful and hella fun. It's one of my favorite tanks in the entire game. Way better than the dogwater Shturm that folds the launcher during movement. Chaparral is absolute trash though with only being able to fire directly at a plane and no leading.
For a content creator it is probably bad. Not OP, not top tier, not popular enough. Content creators call either the IT-1 or PT-76 the worst ussr tech tree tank because they never bother to play them. Understandable, they can just grind with premium vehicles or ask gaijin for anything to test out for a few games spaded. I just unlocked the IT a few weeks and and it is a really well balanced tank after the missile guidance changes. Not OP, punishes mistakes but if played half decently it works.
I didn't even notice he also calls the IKV103 the worst swedish vehicle. That is hilarious. Anything not point and click like a downtiered panther is called bad by these content creators.
Missed huge with the Nashorn. One of the best long range snipers pound for pound. Also we know no armor is best armor. Almost nobody runs HE let alone has it loaded and ur crew is super spaced out so you almost always take two or more hits to kill. Anything you see is dead on the spot considering your firepower so if you use it the way this tank is supposed to be used (sniping) and you let your target hit you it’s on you at that point.
Nashorn is great, I was one shot point blank in one and the shell passed straight through without exploding (lots of empty space and I guess not enough armour to set off the fuse) the absolute panic the tank who fired at me went through as he realised I’d probably get at least a couple of shots off at him with my doom cannon before he could reload 😂
@@Hunter_Tempest he read it as an American who speaks English where "sh" makes the "sch" sound. Im shocked that you don't understand how people pronounce words with the rules of the language they're speaking in regardless of the words original/actual pronunciation
Pvkv 4? Once I ditched the APDS and just went back to the APHE on the 57mm it’s alright turret is bad but really quick reload just has to play it like a turret less TD.
@@TRAMMMFAKKWhat he means is that subjective experience doesn't mean anything towards the overall capability of a tank to succeed, you likely could have done the same in any number of vehicles that match, some probably would have yielded even more success just being objectively better. Nothing can trump personal preference, but in terms of actual capability it is quite lacking.
Bro what? The nashorn is great, and saying that its slow and HE-able is just cheap... Do you know how many other slow open top TDs there are? And you choose the nashorn??? Also the ikv 103 has insane pen
yep the ikv 103 is great its a really really good tank not sure why he put it there when every sweden made vehicle around and before that br dies in one hit anyway. now the pvkv 4 is bad but nothing compaires to the vickers mk e. if your playing sweden right you should know one hit and your dead excluding front hits to certainty tank destroyers even then you might very well die.
@@kevinsworldK.w69 waffentrager, same gun and no armour but incredibly slow and unmanuverable but also 5.7 so even weaker. Honestly if you aren’t racking up kills with the Nashorn you’re doing something wrong
yeah that one is deff the worst. havent played with that one in a while but last i played it had such a bad gun as it did no dmg and missed so many shots like its WoT
How do you have problems with the panther? Before i quit this game, germany 5.7 was literally my silver lion generator lineup because it is absurdly strong.
@@alexmaximus9134 I know man. I think it's because of its slow turret rotation then it's among the first tank I played when switching from arcade to realistic. My stats in panther A and F on the other hand are great
@@maxwellmaragia2272 When i play it, i act as if it does not have a turret. Kinda like how i used to play the M10. Keeping the cannon in the front and only turning it for a bit to ajust my aim. Plus, because of volumetric, i had so much trouble killing panthers in their gunner sight because the shell would randomly do nothing. So, i tested this theory, and just pushed like your average german main. I initially did it as a meme, to blindly push forward, but it somehow worked. When i play russian tanks, i often do not push that aggresively. I do sit in the frontline, but i never push alone, i wait for backup or for any kind of support, as a russian tank works best with support. But with german tanks, i wanted to try to stereotype for german players, and it somehow worked.
@@alexmaximus9134 Yeah. That turret weakspot is not easy to pen coz volumetric. However I usually find myself playing the bf109-k4 or ta 152h in ground games because of the sheer volume of US CAS planes at those BR
@@maxwellmaragia2272 one of the reasons why i never got into realistic battles too much: planes absolutely everywhere. Edit: especially how german planes can somehow blow half of my plane with literally one bullet.
-Can't disagree with the Chappy. -Sturer Emil is significantly worse than the Nashorn. Yes it gets thicker armour but it's still far too thin to be useful while on-top of that it has effectively no mobility and more than double the reload time, at a BR where it fights faster firing guns. All that for a 128mm that does no more damage at this BR than the 88mm. -IT-1might not be as broken as it was on launch, but it's still a nigh un-counterable menace when it's in the right position. There are a number of crap TDs and SPAA you could choose instead. -Ratel 90 is easily the best Ratel, which I know isn't saying much. Ratel 20's main gun is borderline useless and it's far too big to use it's limited missile supply hull-down to avoid instant death when an enemy blinks at it, plus at 6.7 enemy heavies can easily absorb multiple missile hits. ZT3 has amazing missiles for 8.3 but again it's borderline impossible to get hull-down leaving your massive unarmoured shitbox completely exposed to enemies that now carry full stabilisers and APFSDS. -Type 60 and 63 are valid. -M15/42. 'Nuff said. -AMX-13 (HOT) is bad but it can still work if you play it *extremely* conservative. AMX-10M is the one and only French option for this list. -Ikv 103 is alright but I get the complaints. I'd say the Pvkv IV is worse. -TCM is abysmal for the BR you're forced to use it at but that's not really the vehicle's fault, so if Israel ever gets a Rank 3 it'd be decent. Zachlam is just fundamentally shit no matter where you put it.
I actually quite liked the M15/42, the Italian 47mm is one of the best low tier guns, good pen and excellent explosive filler for the caliber. Sturer Emil is fine, you have to use the 15 degrees of gun depression to use it well though. The Striker, in my opinion, is far worse than any of the Ratels. It’s basically a Type 60 with SACLOS but at 8.3.
Says "worst tanks", then names mostly tank destroyers, armored cars and SPAA.... Well yes, if you want to play an SPAA or TD like an MBT, you're going to be disappointed. But not sure why anyone would be surprised by that. It's like buying a bicycle and being upset that it doesn't ride like a Harley.
I gotta chime in with the Nashorn. It's not a bad tank, the Waffentrager is much worse simply because of the design and speed. You're going to mess up a LOT if you're not paying attention to the two nubs on the hull, and it will most definitely get you killed. Its actual mobility is horrendous compared to the Nashorn, and even though you get a turret with the Waffen, its traverse speed makes it practically a casemate. The Nashorn can at least turn quickly because of its higher power to weight ratio. If you're playing the Nashorn like a brawler, you're playing it wrong
Honestly disagree with all of these, this just seems like a bad video honestly becouse if you choose the wrong vehicles to shame it allready negates the whole purpose of this video, most of these are either really good or just not tanks. Im not here to tell you a real definition of a tank but you picked an aa and call it a tank. Id say that in this game an aa cant be called a tank unless it can kill other tanks (things like the zsu 57 2 could be called a tank in this game)
@@DawgIVLife i wasnt trying to be toxic or anything but i just didnt like the video, i hope to see you improve on some things and for you to sucseed in the CC world :)
Watching you repeatedly smack the enemy tanks like the Gun Carrier in the Italian TD, And just getting Non-Pens, Ricochets, and Single Module Pops was so painful, yet so typical of the Italian experience
This is a small think, but I appreciate seeing you bring a full lineup of tanks into these and playing until the end. So many content creators just put on the one tank they are talking about. It's so frustrating having allies who play one tank and leave. Videos showing people who do that only contributes to it.
for the chinese thing, i prefer its little brother the type 62 because its basically the same tank but you get to be scary and make people think they got an uptier into T54 hell and think twice about where to shoot
I highly dissagree with the swedish one: because of its high mobility (especially reverse acceleration) and good gun its quite easy to get in position and make many kills in my opinion ikv IV 3.0 is the worst due to its low armor, low mobility, low turret rotation and just a decent gun.
And I also think you rated the tank so low because it doesn't work with your playstyle. It's strength comes from its high negative vertical guidance and reverse speed on hills. And playing it on a city map (where it doesn't perform well) doesn't realy give you the potential this tank has.
>worst Swedish tank >ikv 103 >instant credibility loss I mean seriously the pvkv iv is literally right there, the ikv103 is situational, but has a low profile, great reverse speed and not to mention its powerful af gun.
@DawgIVLife doesn't change the fact that the ikv103 is really good. -16° of depression, 40mm pen, fast reverse, it's a fantastic sniper. There are plenty of mediocre tanks in the Swedish tree, choose any of those.
@@DawgIVLifeI like to use it’s height to expose only the turret to shoot over things/out windows/over other tanks. Works decently well - and it can front pen German tanks, which they don’t expect.
The Ratwagon-90 is different, but not bad. The HEAT-FS absolutely SLAPS, and most of playing the vehicle revolves around trying to mitigate the weaknesses presented by your giant hull. It's best used being taken out early on and used as a nutcracker against dangerous Heavies and before the CAS starts rolling out. I actually managed to get enough points one match to spawn one of only two nukes I've ever earned. I think its playstyle most heavily revolves around shoot-&-scoot when you're in terrain that makes it easy to spot you, but also benefits from sniping from concealed positions.
The VFW has a insane reload but it still suffers from the same issue as the nashhorn 1 HE shell or 1 pissed off 50 cal plane and its dead. Nashhorn is still worse since it does not have a turret while the VFW does and also has a slower reload.
One is with the Nashorn I find is terrible maps for it. Only shines well on very open and maps with decent tree coverage. Shame for me I find most of WT Maps poo.
This list was invalided before I even clicked on it, seeing the IT-1 in the thumbnail. The thing is ridiculously cracked, its literally the first tank I ever got a nuke in lol
There is NO WAY he is saying the IT-1 is a bad vehicule tf, thats a massive skill issue Covering some points 1) "its hard to hit moving targets" That happens with every "slow" ATGM launcher but it is still managable. 2) "weak ATGM" Why would you need more than 500mm of pen at 8.7? What I imagine you would he would be complaining of is the post pen damage, which I'll agree, isnt the best but that happens with every ATGM and HEAT shell, just aim for weak points. And 3km is more than enough to hit helicopters coincidering every heli at that BR doesnt have more than 3km range aswell. Sure, the shourm-S has 800mm (unnecesary) and the tandem charge which might help you against early ERA, but you only find those in uptiers. The proxy ATGM is very good for getting helis and CAS... Except for the fact the armor is paper thin and will get masacred by any plane with .50 cals (problem the IT-1 doesnt have), And the thermals are nice but you can def live without them. Constantly saying that the IT-1 is horrible is def not true, the armor is decent to take some shots and also bouncing some with the angle, a decently fast reload, being able to fire while on the move (which isnt as unreliable as he says) and something in which I agree with, being able to show your ATGM while behind cover. Also, you dont need to camp to make it work, I always used it in a very agressive way and always worked out.
@@konna6130 Yes the Ratel 20 can at least sit back and use the ATGM, The Ratel 90 pretty much has to play like a light tank would but is terrible at doing it.
@@konna6130 The Rat-20 is basically a Marder A1 turret on top of a school bus. The gun is good for open tops and aircraft, the ATGM for everything else. The Milan is decent especially at that BR. I would take the 20 over the 90 any day.
@DawgIVLife no that's not the reason the reason is you're putting the ifv into a place it's not supposed to be! It's like judging a dog on its ability to fly, it doesn't make sense
Ratel 90 is a lovely IFV in my view, especially these days when most its competition risks went up in BR quiet a chunky margin and its HEAT round got buffed. Just play it highly aggressively, people dont often expect it and when they fire at you, will often do little to no damage because you are so empty/thin skinned and often wont set off APHE fuses. It also pairs heavily well with the strikemaster.
@@DawgIVLife that is every open top vehicle ever. So don't point fingers to the nashorn if you struggle with this concept. Also I saw you haven't even spaded the nashorn so how could you even have a well rounded opinion about it?
There is one more (technically two) tank with keyboard ATGMs, being the Strv 81 RB52. A Swedish Centurion Mk.3 with three SS.11's that can also be found in the British tree if you bought it before Sweden was a thing.
The Ratels would be really good and I have a lot of fun in all of them but the one thing holding them back is how slow they are, even on paved roads. It feels like trying to drive a massive slug through a pit of mud
Interesting picks and sound reasoning. I try to suspend judgement until they get spaded, this looks like a which tanks are the worst to spade maybe more than the 10 worst tanks. But then again you are speaking about playstyles and just not liking them so that makes sense. Not that they can't be effective at times but are very limited situationally. No armor best armor in consideration, I can't say I had the same experience, I guess I like the worst tanks because doing well in them feels better than doing well in a great vehicle. But spading them is a nightmare for sure! You do make that pretty clear if its decent you spade them in 2-3 games, not the drag out fest of the others. I also haven't progressed much past 6.3 because the stock grinds are so expensive and difficult. Anyways, plenty entertaining watching you suffer through these and still do well. Kudos!
I think ASU 85 is quite a bad tank for it tier since it lack of anything, yes it do have like 300 mm of heat pen and very low feature, but the engin, gun depression and the thin armor just make it penetration means nothing since you can only kill people when they were completely blind. If you really want play similar thing then Jpz 4-5 is probably a better option when it have better speed and gun in the same br. Like if you think about it, some tanks were not in light tank line but still got scout ability, why do you think Gajin add it to them ? My answer is thise tank were so bad that it must have the scouts ability so it can make some money in stuck state.
ASU-85? That gets the bias APHE BR-372 same round the 8.0 BR Object 906 has? that pens nearly 250mm of armor for whatever reason like 40mm extra armor than what it penned IRL I think it might even have APDS slope modifier like all other Russian tanks APHE, and it’s even more pen than the 100mm and a 6 second reload? Oh fuck no you just picked one of the most bias undertiered broken vehicles in the game not that it’s really all that different for every other Russian tank being severely broken and undertiered and ahistorically buffed but still you’re really delusional if you think that thing isnt absolutely disgusting
@@BladezAndrew Have you ever had the displeasure of using the ASU85? It seems liek you haven't so let me fill you in on what you just called op: The ASU-85 is a soviet 6.3 Td which has access to several amazing features: Lower P/W than a kingtiger and pathetic engine power that doesn't let it climb a dirt mound 4 degrees gun depression 9mm roof and side armour no turret being in direct competition with a 0.3br lower TD (su-100) that is better than it in every other way possible (faster, actual armour, better shell) So sure, it gets a good gun, but it literally can't use it. It's slow, unarmoured and has no gun depression.
@@jojomaster7675 💀bro it's not even close to as slow as the king tiger, Tiger 2 has 10hp per ton while the ASU-85 as 13hp per ton, might not sound like a huge difference at first but that's 30% higher, to put it into perspective the 120S at 10.0 has 13hp per ton, and thats at a BR where you're vs 1500hp 27hp per ton tanks, and back when i would've played the ASU-85 the leopard 1 was at 7.3, now it's at 8.0 and is impossible to face now, everything you're facing is slower, tiger H1 is 11hp per ton, the higher hp E variant is 12hp per ton, as for the SU-100 it's slightly faster in mobility at 15 almost 16 hp per ton but the gun literally takes twice as long to reload and has less pen, idk how you think it's really any better when the Russian 85mm never doesn't 1 shot anyway, armor in my opinion is negligeable, if you have to rely on armor you would've been dead anyway. All in all L opinion i'll play it right now if you want and probably get like a 5.0KD with it
Right!!!?? I saw the ikv103 and just knew this guy either hates heatfs or doesn’t know how to play tank destroyers… But then again he did put the Naschz Horn in this list 😂😂
I could just do what all the other CC do and don't show the 9 games I did average or bad in and only show the nukes and give a impression that a vehicle is better than it really is.
Nashorn being the worst german tank is weird when there is the Waffenträger... The Type 63 ans especially the M43 on your end were a huge skill issue. The M43 is literally a better Stug in every way that matters. Much better armor, better survivability, same mobility, much better gun arc, much better gun
The IKV is perfect as a Rat! it has -16 degrees of depression so you can just shoot over small hills and one shot everything or hide behind buildings and corners! And if you get shot you are playing it wrong. Same with the Nashorn! its supposed snipe tanks at a long distance thats why it has poor armour. You cant just take a these tanks and force them to CQC and complain that they wont fit the role because they where never meant to.
How dare you talk bad about my Infanterikannonvagn 103 For me the Pansarvärnkannonvagn IV is way worse: bad reload speed, slow, no turret speed and just straight up bad
Nobody talks about how terrible the RakJPz 2 (HOT) and its a crime. That thing is criminally bad, the one saving grace it has is that you can uptier it as much as you want and it will still feel as consistent as the tier it starts at. What makes it terrible probably is its BR, not because its too high, but because its too low. 8.3 is an extremely unpopular tier for Germany and most teammates you get leave the match after losing their crew once. I have so much more i want to say about how horrendous it is but dont really want to make this look longer than it already is. Thanks for reading my opinion, add me on WT.
Ratel with atgms is actually pretty good at 6.7,with careful driving you can preserve your speed and get to the battle not first but early-ish to get some free atgm kills
Dude the Type 62 is literally worse than the Type 63, they both use the same turret, ammo, etc. but the type 62 gets a worse chasis (in terms of speed) while being .4 higher.
@@xlittleponyx9636 YOU CAN .50 CAL THE TYPE 62 WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT HAS "ARMOR" BRO WHAT😭😭😭 and before you say I have a skill issue look at my content...
I can understand your point of view in the IT1 since last atgm update and BR changes, but at 8.0, I used to do dozens of easy kills with it! It's ability to shoot above obstacle with a great depression was so good at its old br !
You prob won’t believe me but I liked the AMX 13 HOT before the missile change. That was when the missiles could actually get on point. It made for some crazy clutch plays if you were in the right spot and the right time.
The IT-1 is really not bad, especially in downtiers. The Nashorn is not good in any way but it will work just fine if you spawn in to hunt the heaviest tanks in the match.
The Chappral is interesting. Stock, it's relatively more effective and cheaper to use. If you aren't confident in your aim or the slog to research rank IV for Proxy seems too daunting, the Chappral is serviceable and usable
The HOT seems terrible, but i think the reason the rockets suck is because they are angled upwards. Maybe try aiming down the gun when firing and quickly aiming up again?
He says Nashorn is bad but he managed to survive to shots and that’s the thing about Nashorn, it’s almost impossible to one shot, if you’re not shooting with HE
One thing i have to say: i used the 404 hispanos when i tried to grind frances air (love their ground) the shear amount of filler in those rounds deletes planes
1. Chapparal If you know how to use IR missiles than its fine
2. the Nashorn is literally the definition of a glass cannon it sacrifices armor with its gun that you should be sniping with
3. IT-1 is not even close to being bad idk what you are smoking
4. Ratel 90 isnt the best but you also have the Skink in your lineup which is a better contender
5. Type 60 is fair cant argue there
6. type 63 is another fair one but you could also argue the Chinese PT-76 since that literally got removed but this works
7. Italy you could have just said the Arietes or the C13 T90
8. AMX-13 Hot is another not bad choice
9. Ikv 103 is another glass cannon but with a great HEAT-FS shell at 4.0 decent mobility too would have said the Pvkv IV
10. the TCM-20 is also alright for this since its got no lineup and doesnt even do well at 6.0 where the tech tree actually starts
Valid argument
3. It1 is bad because In the same tier, same tree, same br
You can get the t55 AMD, it has rangefinder, apfsds, and the same penning atgm, with active protection system too
@@PrinzAquatic yeah, but what happens when you die and have no back ups? you'd be glad ot have that IT-1 in your 8.7 loadout.
@@Rasmos user literally have the strongest 8.7 line up, t55 a,am, amd, t10m, t62, obj 906, obj 476, zsu 57/2, bmp2, bmp1
All perfome the same, if not straight up better than it1....
@@PrinzAquatic Yeah, its annoying to face in downtiers
I've noticed that Gaijin always choses the worst maps for any tank you might want to play :
- You have a very good sniping medium tank with zero armour ? Okay, we have a city map for you (AMX-30B2 sure is a pain) ;
- You have a heavy tank with lots of armour but a poorly accurate gun ? Okay, there's a wide open field for you to be CAS'ed like a mofo all the battle (IS-6 in Syria is a pain too) ;
- You want to use SPAA ? Ok, we give you a map with tall buildings or trees and nowhere to use your radar as it should be ;
- You have a turret-less TD with no maneuverability ? Here are some narrow streets for you !
Gayjin sure knows how to ruin your experience, whatever you might want to do...
Thats why you should use lineups
is-6 is just pain in general now
that's why lineups exist - be versatile to be flexible
Damm you are the 1 death leaver guy in match isnt it?
@@tranxuanminh4623 Wake up and realizing that 1 death leavers have more fun than copium try hards.
Ratel 90 was a skill issue
Nah, even when spaded it's mid. I can be on a flat road and I'm lucky to get past 50kph. Huge target, paper armor, and low post pen damage. Solid 4/10.
If you think the Ratel 90 is bad, the Ratel 20 is worse.
@@Servoxyl ratel is a GOAT at its br , you can fuck tigers left and right with your atgms
Imo, the Ratel 90 has been a saving grace at 6.7 ( I have the spitfire mk24 and the G6 to bring me up)
The sheer versatility is much more than you get out of the Centurion by this point, scouting is always a sure fire way to get free points and SL, while also securing a plane slot. A functioning reverse gear is also a breath of fresh air. That on top of the great pen at its br makes it the best 6.3 vehicle for Britain.
If any tank is the worst tank it is most probably the archer, but the spot could also be taken by the Churchill 1 ( only because there is now a better option at a much lower br and the introduction of Sweden single-handedly killed low br heavies
For real. Use it as a scout, hide and shoot vehicle and it’s good.
i remember a pasta boy whom we both knew but shall not be named, he got me to preorder the premium version of the 75/34 M24.. it's been like six years and i'm still upset.
It’s a great tank what do u mean ???
@@Rimmlessdepends on the playstyle
The semovente M43 is good if you wanted a per say "rat casemate", it's profile is extremely small, you can hide behind most medium tanks and other than your antenna you're completely out of sight. Most people default to the HEAT rounds after you get them but the APHE rounds have good filler, albeit with less pen.
It's really good, lower pen but the he filler of the shell is crazy, won't pen everywhere but the places it will pen it'll instakill
I genuinely have no clue on who you are referring to when you say pasta boy
Now i hella disagree with the German and Italian one, neither of them are the worst
I agree.
I don't use the Nashorn, but those Italian Tank destroyers are pretty fun, if you play them correctly. And they can bounce a surprising amount of shots.
@@MatthiasDrinksH20 Yep, i love those Italian shitboxes, especially the 105/25, 75/34 and the 75/46, they can bounce suprisingly well enough while dish out some great damage, as for the Nashorn, i quite liked it, its have a decent reload rate and great penetration for its tier, though a single HE above 40mm can kill it, overall it can perform well. If i were to choose the worst option from either one, then i would go for either the Pz.III B or the Pz 35 t, both are quite shite even for reserves, as for Italy i would go with the L3, its a meme but not a great vehicle, at all
@@K_Balu he said he wouldn't pick rank 1 vehicles
@@rudolfthecat1176 He did, but i didn't said i would follow the same rule, Rank 1 is still part of the tech tree, its only fair to include them too regardless
@@K_Balu Well in that case most of the worst tanks would be rank 1, which is still a bad thing don't get me wrong, but most of these lists of "worst tanks in wr" already include them 😅
7:02 the waffentrager is worse then the nashorn, it has the samne bad caracteristics but is slower, slower reload and is 5.7
While I do agree the thing that makes the Nashorn slightly worse is not having turret.
@@DawgIVLife that's a skill issue NGL......
@@Spookoffi gotta point Nash best boy , same with it1 easy tanks to play tbh
its also a lot smaller though, easier to bush up and rat about, with more gun traverse and the br is sort of meaningless since the gun both use is going to work fine all the way through 6.7
@@Spookoffiya gotta say dawg is shit if they think the ikv103 is bad.
Thing is a monster in the right hands and as such if you think it's bad, that's a you problem.
Also the m43 105 is a terror in the right spot, mainly in any situation where you can't be flanked easily. Because 105 heat will will delete everyone that gets hit with it
The "Naschhorn" is actually properly triggered my inner German right here😅😂
Even more than putting it into a Top 10 worst tanks list. The Nashorn is amazing
@@jericho7852 because all the german tanks are good
it's said like Nazhorn? right
@@thatwasgaybro7036I mean the Patton with apcr stock is painful to play
@@kazakhstanisastate4614 Nope, it's just Nashorn. German is one of those languages where the words are mostly pronounced like written, unlike certain languages 😒
The worst tank is whatever I spawn in with
The IT-1 used to be my favourite vehicle in the game. You could sit hull down and no one would be able to do anything. I had like a 2.5kd even though I was kind of bad at the game. The missile relies a lot on overpressure to kill things due to the lack of pen compared to other atgms. Now with the missile changes sitting hull down means you risk having your missile just hitting the ground most of the time
Good, fighting an enemy you can barely see and that you can't damage sucks ass
@@bassbusterxSkill issue
@@Redstoneprofi01 Just facts. Calling « skill issue » when the game is rigged from the start looks like a mental issue imho.
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 it was just a joke, as there is always someone saying skill issue to everything and if i say it first then they can't 😀👍
@@fridaycaliforniaa236 cry about it
I am sorry but the Italian tds are good, shermans, t34, kv1 suffer to kill me
You gotta use your size to your advantage Italian vehicles were actually more designed for defensive actions in Italy's, mountainous and Urban terrain. So like don't duke it out in an open field with an Italian vehicle
@@bpw102896 i usually stomp with the M42 and M43 with the long 75. Honestly i regard them as quite literally better stugs since they have more armor or they reload quicker if i remember correctly (or at least the 4.3 M43 is better than all the stugs)
@@mazinger_mol5879 yep and once you learn to use their strengths you can take out things pretty easy just gotta learn to be patient hide and ambush especially on the urban maps you can donate the enemy especially since you can hide behind almost anything
Talks down the Nashorn for having a big gun and no armor. Ignores the majority of the Swedish vehicles doing the same thing but with an average gun instead.
1 HE shell = dead nashhorn
@@DawgIVLife Same for every single open top, you just have to avoid getting shot in the first place.
As an Swedish Main i can say that the ikv 103 is one of my favorite vehicles because its small fast has good gun depression and the recoil just makes it so funny if you play it on a hill so you can get cover quick
The Ikv 103 has not been defended i see. I guess it's a task for me. Having 400 mm of pen and a good speed make him a realiable tank on open map. This tank can be used at high br, usefull if you don't have a full line up. You cannot say it's the worst sweedish tank when the CV 9030 family exist
Agreed, the 9030s are aweful at the br, the ikv103 has -16° so it is incredibly good if you can get behind a hill, suffers in city maps and def shouldn't be sped into the frontlines
Agree, the IKV 103 is obscenely mobile with a fantastic gun and decent reload, and was my designated heavy killer on my lineup up until 6.7, where it took the role of ferdinand killer
The cv9030 FIN is one of my favorite tanks in the game. Wide fov thermals + above average mobility means its a beast at flanking, where it's gun starts to be effective. Tracing the edge of the map and punching holes in oblivious tanks is extremely effective, plus if one noticed you you can disable its barrel and tracks before running away
Yeah ikv is great, you can basically shoot anything without fear. Fast in forward and reverse with a low profile.
Ratel 90 isn't bad. it's a big vehicule, but acceptable in its BR. ZT3 is worst, same chassis, autocannon area (8.3) and AGTM missing alot of depression. It's a horror to play with it.
To be honest, it's easier to find a bad british vehicle than a good one.
Once spaded it's pretty good in defensive with the thermals and tandem 800mm pen ATGMS and decent mobility but it's still not GREAT
For Sweden the Pvkv IV is the worst, you can’t convince me otherwise
Idk why but I keep thinking the pvkv 2 (the long shlong marder lookalike), get confused since it’s amazing then realize they are talking about that stupid medium tank that was so shit I never played it when possible
i agree
M41D is also a contender for one of the worst China tree tanks. It got a engine buff recently but it basically made it go from F tier to D- tier.
8.0 with thermals and a decent for the caliber dart with great mobility? Learn to play the thing.
skill issue it's good in right hands
@@Spookoffi *in the right hands*
you really have to aim with this thing cuz the damage after pen is kinda abysmal lol, the damage acts more like an APCR
god help you if you get uptiered
that said, not the worst maybe, but not a tank you would choose first into a match
My Opinions on all of these takes (based on the vehicles that I've researched and played (even spaded);
1. Chapparal: still in research. rarely saw them in my 9.3 games.
2. Nashorn isn't actually the worst tank for Germany. that title goes to the RakJpz 2 - before Gaijin gives it SACLOS rockets -
3. IT-1: no comment, but it does get over shadowed by its successors.
4. Ratel 20; definitely the worst of all of these vehicles here. it does *NO* damage.
5. Italy's low tier TDs are actually pretty decent and I personally think shouldn't have been shamed in this video. if theres a bad tank in Italy, its the C13 T90. Its like the Ratel 20 but has better mobility.
no comments for the French, Japan, Sweden and Israel cause i dont have experience on those vehicles yet
If you ever do get to researching the Japanese tech tree for ground, you'll definitely tell that the Imperial Japanese ground forces were neglected by how their tanks function, you're either stuck with a glass cannon that does no damage at all (Like the Ha-Go or I-Go-Ko, hell even the Chi-Ha LG) or you have a glass cannon that does damage, but the second the enemy you're shooting at slightly goes hull down they become immune to your gun because of how shit the angle performance is on those tanks, trust me, Japan has some of the absolute worst starter tanks, but the post war / lend lease tanks and more modern tanks are pretty amazing, so I mean it's kinda worth researching if you're willing to drive yourself mad for some time during the grind
On the RakJpz2: The SACLOS is actually fine. It's very responsive and at range more stable than many ATGMs currently, with that weird jitter they have now. The issue is that the rockets drop from the launch platform like sacks of potatos (which IRL footage DOES NOT support), making using cover a gamble and low/mid range combat a nightmare, like with no other ATGM carrier.
As a Japan main who has also ground out a lot of France, the Type 60 ATM is quite in fact the worst vehicle in the game, they’re the slowest missile in game and they’re key guided. Although it is rewarding when you get any kills. As for the AMX-13-90 HOT, it’s just an overtiered AMX-13-90. That’s it. The missiles don’t redeem it.
RakJpz 2 is far, far from beign anywhere near the worst. Even with just WASD missiles, it's pretty good. And after Gaijin butchered the mouse-gouded missiles, WASD ones are actualyl a valid pick now.
RakJpz 2 is actually better than the HOT. It still has more than enough pen but it has much betetr gun depression and two launchers, which is amazing.
@@DrSpoon-nd4uj you have the Chi-ha kai and Chi-he which are actually quite good, the low tier td's are definitely useable, and you can use the Ho-ro if you want to have fun while grinding. Only the starter tanks for Japan are really bad imo. I had a way worse time playing French rank 1 😅
The IT-1 is powerful and hella fun. It's one of my favorite tanks in the entire game. Way better than the dogwater Shturm that folds the launcher during movement. Chaparral is absolute trash though with only being able to fire directly at a plane and no leading.
For a content creator it is probably bad. Not OP, not top tier, not popular enough. Content creators call either the IT-1 or PT-76 the worst ussr tech tree tank because they never bother to play them. Understandable, they can just grind with premium vehicles or ask gaijin for anything to test out for a few games spaded.
I just unlocked the IT a few weeks and and it is a really well balanced tank after the missile guidance changes. Not OP, punishes mistakes but if played half decently it works.
I didn't even notice he also calls the IKV103 the worst swedish vehicle. That is hilarious.
Anything not point and click like a downtiered panther is called bad by these content creators.
Missed huge with the Nashorn. One of the best long range snipers pound for pound. Also we know no armor is best armor. Almost nobody runs HE let alone has it loaded and ur crew is super spaced out so you almost always take two or more hits to kill. Anything you see is dead on the spot considering your firepower so if you use it the way this tank is supposed to be used (sniping) and you let your target hit you it’s on you at that point.
Nashorn is great, I was one shot point blank in one and the shell passed straight through without exploding (lots of empty space and I guess not enough armour to set off the fuse) the absolute panic the tank who fired at me went through as he realised I’d probably get at least a couple of shots off at him with my doom cannon before he could reload 😂
Never let bro cook again💀
7:23 naschhorn?😭
I know people can be bad at language, but this one is a first
@@Paronak yeah people can be bad at a language but where does the “Sch” come from like there is just a “S”
@@Hunter_Tempest he read it as an American who speaks English where "sh" makes the "sch" sound.
Im shocked that you don't understand how people pronounce words with the rules of the language they're speaking in regardless of the words original/actual pronunciation
@@lazarmarkovic9404Yeah, which is stupid cause it's german.
@@howlingbeats2544 not stupid, it's normal.
The nashorn is honestly one of the best tanks ive been playing in the german tech tree, i always pulled off 7+ kills games systematically only with it
My second fav after the JagdPanther
I never expected a human being to say IT-1 is bad lol
Dissing the IT-1 is crazy... It breaks my heart. :(
The ratel 90 is my most played tank and I didn’t think it was that bad : ( the aml 90 and eland are the smaller versions of this tank
The ikv 103 isnt even that bad. Try the 3.3 tank with a long barel and worse turret traverse than the maus. Its BAAAD💀
Pvkv 4? Once I ditched the APDS and just went back to the APHE on the 57mm it’s alright turret is bad but really quick reload just has to play it like a turret less TD.
@@DawgIVLife i think the ikv 103 is good. Once got like 12 kils with it at an good angle thanks to the amazing gun depression
@@TRAMMMFAKKYou got 12 kills ≠ tank is good
@@P3S4R well i like it is what i meant
@@TRAMMMFAKKWhat he means is that subjective experience doesn't mean anything towards the overall capability of a tank to succeed, you likely could have done the same in any number of vehicles that match, some probably would have yielded even more success just being objectively better.
Nothing can trump personal preference, but in terms of actual capability it is quite lacking.
You did not cook with this🔥 you also played the vehicles wrong
Bro what? The nashorn is great, and saying that its slow and HE-able is just cheap... Do you know how many other slow open top TDs there are? And you choose the nashorn??? Also the ikv 103 has insane pen
yep the ikv 103 is great its a really really good tank not sure why he put it there when every sweden made vehicle around and before that br dies in one hit anyway. now the pvkv 4 is bad but nothing compaires to the vickers mk e. if your playing sweden right you should know one hit and your dead excluding front hits to certainty tank destroyers even then you might very well die.
The Nashorn isn’t even slow, it’s pretty quick and maneiverable, insanely quick reload and bonafide doom cannon
If not the nashorn though what would be the worst german vehicle? All in all germany has a pretty flawless tech tree
@@kevinsworldK.w69 waffentrager, same gun and no armour but incredibly slow and unmanuverable but also 5.7 so even weaker. Honestly if you aren’t racking up kills with the Nashorn you’re doing something wrong
75/34 M43 is still okay, unlike the C13 T90. (As Italian main, this tank has a good k/d ratio)
yeah that one is deff the worst. havent played with that one in a while but last i played it had such a bad gun as it did no dmg and missed so many shots like its WoT
Agreed
i personally like the c13, yeah its not that good but it isnt that bad either.
Ranking the Ratel that low when the Archer exists is criminal, the party bus isn't that bad after you get used to how weird it is
Me with Nashorn. 255 deaths and 370 kills. Me with IT-1 195 deaths and 264 kills. My worst tanks in terms of stats are actually panther D and is-4m
How do you have problems with the panther? Before i quit this game, germany 5.7 was literally my silver lion generator lineup because it is absurdly strong.
@@alexmaximus9134 I know man. I think it's because of its slow turret rotation then it's among the first tank I played when switching from arcade to realistic. My stats in panther A and F on the other hand are great
@@maxwellmaragia2272 When i play it, i act as if it does not have a turret. Kinda like how i used to play the M10. Keeping the cannon in the front and only turning it for a bit to ajust my aim. Plus, because of volumetric, i had so much trouble killing panthers in their gunner sight because the shell would randomly do nothing. So, i tested this theory, and just pushed like your average german main. I initially did it as a meme, to blindly push forward, but it somehow worked. When i play russian tanks, i often do not push that aggresively. I do sit in the frontline, but i never push alone, i wait for backup or for any kind of support, as a russian tank works best with support. But with german tanks, i wanted to try to stereotype for german players, and it somehow worked.
@@alexmaximus9134 Yeah. That turret weakspot is not easy to pen coz volumetric. However I usually find myself playing the bf109-k4 or ta 152h in ground games because of the sheer volume of US CAS planes at those BR
@@maxwellmaragia2272 one of the reasons why i never got into realistic battles too much: planes absolutely everywhere.
Edit: especially how german planes can somehow blow half of my plane with literally one bullet.
-Can't disagree with the Chappy.
-Sturer Emil is significantly worse than the Nashorn. Yes it gets thicker armour but it's still far too thin to be useful while on-top of that it has effectively no mobility and more than double the reload time, at a BR where it fights faster firing guns. All that for a 128mm that does no more damage at this BR than the 88mm.
-IT-1might not be as broken as it was on launch, but it's still a nigh un-counterable menace when it's in the right position. There are a number of crap TDs and SPAA you could choose instead.
-Ratel 90 is easily the best Ratel, which I know isn't saying much. Ratel 20's main gun is borderline useless and it's far too big to use it's limited missile supply hull-down to avoid instant death when an enemy blinks at it, plus at 6.7 enemy heavies can easily absorb multiple missile hits. ZT3 has amazing missiles for 8.3 but again it's borderline impossible to get hull-down leaving your massive unarmoured shitbox completely exposed to enemies that now carry full stabilisers and APFSDS.
-Type 60 and 63 are valid.
-M15/42. 'Nuff said.
-AMX-13 (HOT) is bad but it can still work if you play it *extremely* conservative. AMX-10M is the one and only French option for this list.
-Ikv 103 is alright but I get the complaints. I'd say the Pvkv IV is worse.
-TCM is abysmal for the BR you're forced to use it at but that's not really the vehicle's fault, so if Israel ever gets a Rank 3 it'd be decent. Zachlam is just fundamentally shit no matter where you put it.
I actually quite liked the M15/42, the Italian 47mm is one of the best low tier guns, good pen and excellent explosive filler for the caliber.
Sturer Emil is fine, you have to use the 15 degrees of gun depression to use it well though.
The Striker, in my opinion, is far worse than any of the Ratels. It’s basically a Type 60 with SACLOS but at 8.3.
The amx10m is kinda fun, the worst french tanks are the reserve ones
Says "worst tanks", then names mostly tank destroyers, armored cars and SPAA....
Well yes, if you want to play an SPAA or TD like an MBT, you're going to be disappointed. But not sure why anyone would be surprised by that. It's like buying a bicycle and being upset that it doesn't ride like a Harley.
I gotta chime in with the Nashorn. It's not a bad tank, the Waffentrager is much worse simply because of the design and speed. You're going to mess up a LOT if you're not paying attention to the two nubs on the hull, and it will most definitely get you killed. Its actual mobility is horrendous compared to the Nashorn, and even though you get a turret with the Waffen, its traverse speed makes it practically a casemate. The Nashorn can at least turn quickly because of its higher power to weight ratio. If you're playing the Nashorn like a brawler, you're playing it wrong
“Shaff-ree-ell” 😂 Bruh there is no F or PH in Chapparal 😂😂
The italian tank destroyers arent that bad if you use the right shell (NOT heat). Huge post pen damage
Honestly disagree with all of these, this just seems like a bad video honestly becouse if you choose the wrong vehicles to shame it allready negates the whole purpose of this video, most of these are either really good or just not tanks. Im not here to tell you a real definition of a tank but you picked an aa and call it a tank. Id say that in this game an aa cant be called a tank unless it can kill other tanks (things like the zsu 57 2 could be called a tank in this game)
Tank = tank
@@DawgIVLife i wasnt trying to be toxic or anything but i just didnt like the video, i hope to see you improve on some things and for you to sucseed in the CC world :)
Watching you repeatedly smack the enemy tanks like the Gun Carrier in the Italian TD, And just getting Non-Pens, Ricochets, and Single Module Pops was so painful, yet so typical of the Italian experience
This is a small think, but I appreciate seeing you bring a full lineup of tanks into these and playing until the end. So many content creators just put on the one tank they are talking about.
It's so frustrating having allies who play one tank and leave. Videos showing people who do that only contributes to it.
Yea I play out each game, but there is some matches where its clearly a loss so I quit spawning.
One thing does shock me.
You complain about the Nashorns maneuverability but have neither tracks researched.
Bro, Ikv 103 is my best vehicle at that Br after the op Sav 20.12.48
for the chinese thing, i prefer its little brother the type 62 because its basically the same tank but you get to be scary and make people think they got an uptier into T54 hell and think twice about where to shoot
So many people confuse the Type 62 with the T54s it’s very funny
I highly dissagree with the swedish one: because of its high mobility (especially reverse acceleration) and good gun its quite easy to get in position and make many kills in my opinion ikv IV 3.0 is the worst due to its low armor, low mobility, low turret rotation and just a decent gun.
And you call the 9s reload terrible, which I can understand but you have to keep in mind that this gun basically one shots everything in its BR
And I also think you rated the tank so low because it doesn't work with your playstyle. It's strength comes from its high negative vertical guidance and reverse speed on hills.
And playing it on a city map (where it doesn't perform well) doesn't realy give you the potential this tank has.
>worst Swedish tank
>ikv 103
>instant credibility loss
I mean seriously the pvkv iv is literally right there, the ikv103 is situational, but has a low profile, great reverse speed and not to mention its powerful af gun.
Sure when the PVKV IV first came out but now it’s such a low BR,
@DawgIVLife doesn't change the fact that the ikv103 is really good. -16° of depression, 40mm pen, fast reverse, it's a fantastic sniper. There are plenty of mediocre tanks in the Swedish tree, choose any of those.
The nashorn is a sniper with good optics and a long 88 at 5.3 what more can you expect of it
ratel 90 is literally the worst take here, the ratel is incredibly good, you just clearly dont know how to play it
How would you recommended playing it then? Also to note this thing kept going down in BR for the longest of time but I guess gaijin is wrong.
just an aml-90 with a extremely weak hull visible from space, cas magnet, if it were not for the heatfs it would be sent to the scrap yard immediately
@@DawgIVLifeI like to use it’s height to expose only the turret to shoot over things/out windows/over other tanks. Works decently well - and it can front pen German tanks, which they don’t expect.
The Ratwagon-90 is different, but not bad. The HEAT-FS absolutely SLAPS, and most of playing the vehicle revolves around trying to mitigate the weaknesses presented by your giant hull. It's best used being taken out early on and used as a nutcracker against dangerous Heavies and before the CAS starts rolling out.
I actually managed to get enough points one match to spawn one of only two nukes I've ever earned. I think its playstyle most heavily revolves around shoot-&-scoot when you're in terrain that makes it easy to spot you, but also benefits from sniping from concealed positions.
All I gotta say is that Italian tank destroyer is op. I think you might just have a skill issue. Plus you shouldn't run heat as ur main round
I love the Nashorn never have a bad match in it almost prefer it over playing the vfw seems to be a skill issue not gonna lie
The VFW has a insane reload but it still suffers from the same issue as the nashhorn 1 HE shell or 1 pissed off 50 cal plane and its dead. Nashhorn is still worse since it does not have a turret while the VFW does and also has a slower reload.
One is with the Nashorn I find is terrible maps for it. Only shines well on very open and maps with decent tree coverage. Shame for me I find most of WT Maps poo.
aint no way bro rated the nashorn over the waffentrager
ok this guy DIDNT COOK no wonder i lose all the battles, look how bad he plays
Go back to fortnite
This list was invalided before I even clicked on it, seeing the IT-1 in the thumbnail. The thing is ridiculously cracked, its literally the first tank I ever got a nuke in lol
He did not just complain that a tank destroyer isn't good at being a tank
There is NO WAY he is saying the IT-1 is a bad vehicule tf, thats a massive skill issue
Covering some points
1) "its hard to hit moving targets"
That happens with every "slow" ATGM launcher but it is still managable.
2) "weak ATGM"
Why would you need more than 500mm of pen at 8.7? What I imagine you would he would be complaining of is the post pen damage, which I'll agree, isnt the best but that happens with every ATGM and HEAT shell, just aim for weak points. And 3km is more than enough to hit helicopters coincidering every heli at that BR doesnt have more than 3km range aswell.
Sure, the shourm-S has 800mm (unnecesary) and the tandem charge which might help you against early ERA, but you only find those in uptiers. The proxy ATGM is very good for getting helis and CAS... Except for the fact the armor is paper thin and will get masacred by any plane with .50 cals (problem the IT-1 doesnt have), And the thermals are nice but you can def live without them.
Constantly saying that the IT-1 is horrible is def not true, the armor is decent to take some shots and also bouncing some with the angle, a decently fast reload, being able to fire while on the move (which isnt as unreliable as he says) and something in which I agree with, being able to show your ATGM while behind cover.
Also, you dont need to camp to make it work, I always used it in a very agressive way and always worked out.
You want fries with that?
@@CharlesDavis-e5b nah, that'll be it 👍
i have 1264 hours in warthunder and the ratel 90 is my most played vehicle 😐
Continue to play it maybe we can drop it down to 5.3
@@DawgIVLife Have you really not played RATEL 20 and ZT3A2? they are much worse vehicles than the 90.
@@konna6130 Yes the Ratel 20 can at least sit back and use the ATGM, The Ratel 90 pretty much has to play like a light tank would but is terrible at doing it.
@@konna6130 The Rat-20 is basically a Marder A1 turret on top of a school bus.
The gun is good for open tops and aircraft, the ATGM for everything else. The Milan is decent especially at that BR. I would take the 20 over the 90 any day.
Fr ratal 90 has got the most kills out of all of my vehicles and has made me the most money ratal hate needs to stop 😢
That's not how you pronounce the ratel and I feel he has a hatred for south african tanks for no reason
Ah yes because I pronounced the name wrong means I “hate South African tanks” the ratel is just bad.
@DawgIVLife no that's not the reason the reason is you're putting the ifv into a place it's not supposed to be! It's like judging a dog on its ability to fly, it doesn't make sense
@Daniel-f8w4j ok
Ratel 90 is a lovely IFV in my view, especially these days when most its competition risks went up in BR quiet a chunky margin and its HEAT round got buffed. Just play it highly aggressively, people dont often expect it and when they fire at you, will often do little to no damage because you are so empty/thin skinned and often wont set off APHE fuses. It also pairs heavily well with the strikemaster.
Bro 75/34 M43 is soo good and fun to play
I honestly see M15/42 as a worser one
bro is complaining the nashorn is bad by over extending and using a defensive tank offensively in CQB.
You are 1 HE shell or a P47 50 cal strafe from being destroyed.
@@DawgIVLife that is every open top vehicle ever.
So don't point fingers to the nashorn if you struggle with this concept.
Also I saw you haven't even spaded the nashorn so how could you even have a well rounded opinion about it?
There is one more (technically two) tank with keyboard ATGMs, being the Strv 81 RB52. A Swedish Centurion Mk.3 with three SS.11's that can also be found in the British tree if you bought it before Sweden was a thing.
Bro is just frustrated he cant play those tanks
its a video game
While yes the ikv 103 has no armor it is incredibly fast allowing you to have amazing flanks also most Swedish tanks have 0 armor
The Ratels would be really good and I have a lot of fun in all of them but the one thing holding them back is how slow they are, even on paved roads. It feels like trying to drive a massive slug through a pit of mud
Interesting picks and sound reasoning. I try to suspend judgement until they get spaded, this looks like a which tanks are the worst to spade maybe more than the 10 worst tanks. But then again you are speaking about playstyles and just not liking them so that makes sense. Not that they can't be effective at times but are very limited situationally. No armor best armor in consideration, I can't say I had the same experience, I guess I like the worst tanks because doing well in them feels better than doing well in a great vehicle. But spading them is a nightmare for sure! You do make that pretty clear if its decent you spade them in 2-3 games, not the drag out fest of the others. I also haven't progressed much past 6.3 because the stock grinds are so expensive and difficult.
Anyways, plenty entertaining watching you suffer through these and still do well. Kudos!
Fun fact, all atgms on controller are controlled by the camera stick and not the movement stick
Fun fact, the Chapparal used to be worse, on release it had rear aspect only missiles.
As a War Thunder Mobile player, I CANNOT believe you've rated the almighty IT-1 this low, that thing rocks in WTM
This isnt WTM though...
@fastfirefox1475 thanks for pointing out the obvious, they really look indistinguishable from each other!
No man the ratel 90 is amazing
I love the it-1, but I could understand why some people don't, I think the one after it sucks
I think ASU 85 is quite a bad tank for it tier since it lack of anything, yes it do have like 300 mm of heat pen and very low feature, but the engin, gun depression and the thin armor just make it penetration means nothing since you can only kill people when they were completely blind. If you really want play similar thing then Jpz 4-5 is probably a better option when it have better speed and gun in the same br.
Like if you think about it, some tanks were not in light tank line but still got scout ability, why do you think Gajin add it to them ? My answer is thise tank were so bad that it must have the scouts ability so it can make some money in stuck state.
ASU-85? That gets the bias APHE BR-372 same round the 8.0 BR Object 906 has? that pens nearly 250mm of armor for whatever reason like 40mm extra armor than what it penned IRL I think it might even have APDS slope modifier like all other Russian tanks APHE, and it’s even more pen than the 100mm and a 6 second reload? Oh fuck no you just picked one of the most bias undertiered broken vehicles in the game not that it’s really all that different for every other Russian tank being severely broken and undertiered and ahistorically buffed but still you’re really delusional if you think that thing isnt absolutely disgusting
@@BladezAndrew906 would definitely be in my best tanks for USSR list just because of the shell and reload
@@BladezAndrew You talk a lot, but have you ever actually played that tank?
@@BladezAndrew Have you ever had the displeasure of using the ASU85? It seems liek you haven't so let me fill you in on what you just called op:
The ASU-85 is a soviet 6.3 Td which has access to several amazing features:
Lower P/W than a kingtiger and pathetic engine power that doesn't let it climb a dirt mound
4 degrees gun depression
9mm roof and side armour
no turret
being in direct competition with a 0.3br lower TD (su-100) that is better than it in every other way possible (faster, actual armour, better shell)
So sure, it gets a good gun, but it literally can't use it. It's slow, unarmoured and has no gun depression.
@@jojomaster7675 💀bro it's not even close to as slow as the king tiger, Tiger 2 has 10hp per ton while the ASU-85 as 13hp per ton, might not sound like a huge difference at first but that's 30% higher, to put it into perspective the 120S at 10.0 has 13hp per ton, and thats at a BR where you're vs 1500hp 27hp per ton tanks, and back when i would've played the ASU-85 the leopard 1 was at 7.3, now it's at 8.0 and is impossible to face now, everything you're facing is slower, tiger H1 is 11hp per ton, the higher hp E variant is 12hp per ton, as for the SU-100 it's slightly faster in mobility at 15 almost 16 hp per ton but the gun literally takes twice as long to reload and has less pen, idk how you think it's really any better when the Russian 85mm never doesn't 1 shot anyway, armor in my opinion is negligeable, if you have to rely on armor you would've been dead anyway.
All in all L opinion i'll play it right now if you want and probably get like a 5.0KD with it
Ikv 103 Is a massive skill issue a very hot take. Pvkv 4 wins worst tank in Sweden hands down.
Right!!!?? I saw the ikv103 and just knew this guy either hates heatfs or doesn’t know how to play tank destroyers… But then again he did put the Naschz Horn in this list 😂😂
Ikv 103 is probobly one the best sweedish vehicles, one of the best in the game,maybe no armour but its fast,small and great gun depression
nashorn in top 10 worst tanks for doing its job very well. Huh
It’s not a good tank it’s 1 HE round away for an over pressure.
I'm gonna be honest. The Nashorn isn't "the worst" just people tend to suck at using it properly
Using it as a sniper: long range shoot and scoot ambush it’s absolutely brilliant
Im pretty bad in this game, but damn, your Nashorn gameplay was somehow even worse than my own gameplay.
At least I dont blame Gaijin for my poor aim.
I could just do what all the other CC do and don't show the 9 games I did average or bad in and only show the nukes and give a impression that a vehicle is better than it really is.
@@DawgIVLife Ah, I thought that you already hand picked your games, since the rest of them went pretty darn well.
That does make sense then.
Nashorn being the worst german tank is weird when there is the Waffenträger...
The Type 63 ans especially the M43 on your end were a huge skill issue.
The M43 is literally a better Stug in every way that matters. Much better armor, better survivability, same mobility, much better gun arc, much better gun
you did the type 63 dirty, it's actually quite good. also for the 85mm heat-fs.
same thing goes for the type 62
The only thing the video taught me is that you have Turret bias
The IKV is perfect as a Rat! it has -16 degrees of depression so you can just shoot over small hills and one shot everything or hide behind buildings and corners! And if you get shot you are playing it wrong. Same with the Nashorn! its supposed snipe tanks at a long distance thats why it has poor armour. You cant just take a these tanks and force them to CQC and complain that they wont fit the role because they where never meant to.
If you camp in these vehicles you will have P47 gunning you out with 50 cals 2mins into the game.
@@DawgIVLife Relocate, hide in cover next to trees, buildings etc.
Never let bro cook again 😭😭🙏🙏
How dare you talk bad about my Infanterikannonvagn 103
For me the Pansarvärnkannonvagn IV is way worse: bad reload speed, slow, no turret speed and just straight up bad
So bizarre that the Ratel goes so slow given its top speed is supposed to be something like 105 km/h
Nobody talks about how terrible the RakJPz 2 (HOT) and its a crime. That thing is criminally bad, the one saving grace it has is that you can uptier it as much as you want and it will still feel as consistent as the tier it starts at.
What makes it terrible probably is its BR, not because its too high, but because its too low. 8.3 is an extremely unpopular tier for Germany and most teammates you get leave the match after losing their crew once.
I have so much more i want to say about how horrendous it is but dont really want to make this look longer than it already is. Thanks for reading my opinion, add me on WT.
Ratel with atgms is actually pretty good at 6.7,with careful driving you can preserve your speed and get to the battle not first but early-ish to get some free atgm kills
Dude the Type 62 is literally worse than the Type 63, they both use the same turret, ammo, etc. but the type 62 gets a worse chasis (in terms of speed) while being .4 higher.
The type 62 has armor and a dshk like bro you don't know how to play the game lol
@@xlittleponyx9636 YOU CAN .50 CAL THE TYPE 62 WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT HAS "ARMOR" BRO WHAT😭😭😭
and before you say I have a skill issue look at my content...
Ratel 90 is a skill issue
I love it bc it doesn’t shoot solid shot 😂
I had a 7 kill game in the Nashorn in cqb on abandonned factory, i dont even think it was a downtier, oblivious oponents i guess
I can understand your point of view in the IT1 since last atgm update and BR changes, but at 8.0, I used to do dozens of easy kills with it! It's ability to shoot above obstacle with a great depression was so good at its old br !
You prob won’t believe me but I liked the AMX 13 HOT before the missile change. That was when the missiles could actually get on point. It made for some crazy clutch plays if you were in the right spot and the right time.
THE NASHORN is not the worst lol, its one of the best tanks that Germany can offer lad 💀
I’ve genuinely had some of the most fun in a WHILE in the Nashhorn recently. Utter glass canon, but it’s very easy to use at range.
The Italian section is a massive skill issue moment 💀
The IT-1 is really not bad, especially in downtiers. The Nashorn is not good in any way but it will work just fine if you spawn in to hunt the heaviest tanks in the match.
The Chappral is interesting. Stock, it's relatively more effective and cheaper to use. If you aren't confident in your aim or the slog to research rank IV for Proxy seems too daunting, the Chappral is serviceable and usable
The HOT seems terrible, but i think the reason the rockets suck is because they are angled upwards. Maybe try aiming down the gun when firing and quickly aiming up again?
I am actually grinding through the Italian tech tree right now. It is pretty fun, unless you want to spade those god aweful TD's.
He says Nashorn is bad but he managed to survive to shots and that’s the thing about Nashorn, it’s almost impossible to one shot, if you’re not shooting with HE
One thing i have to say: i used the 404 hispanos when i tried to grind frances air (love their ground) the shear amount of filler in those rounds deletes planes
Ikv 103????? Bro the pbv 302 bill is the worst tank on the nation, right next to the CV9030FIN
The rattel is an intresing choice i would consider the Archer to be the worst design to fight backwards with almost now backward