Will do. Under normal (stock) setups the first tooth of the sector gear engages the piston at roughly 1:30. That means there is a lot of un-needed force on that first tooth of the piston since it is pulling the whole spring on one tooth for a few millimeters. The starting energy of a cycle is also the most demanding and for all of that force to be on the pick-up is bad. So the purpose of correcting AoE is to aid the piston and act as a spacer so the sector can engage at roughly 12:00...Continue
I use all SHS parts though I would not recommend this particular piston from SHS. I broke 5 of these pistons. If you are gonna get a shs piston I would recommend the blue nylon all metal tooth piston. Love that one.
2 questions: if i plan on running a high compression setup with an m140 spring, how much fps drop will i get from the sorbopad? Also, wouldn't removing the two teeth jeopardize the grip that the sector gear's teeth has on the piston?
@Juzh123. If you don't remove piston teeth accordingly you won't have proper AOE. What you gain is proper AOE and thus your gears, piston and motor will last longer, way longer.
i'm working on correcting the aoe of one of my gearboxes. the website where I am ordering sorbo pads is suggesting 40d sorbo's. in your opinion, is 40d too soft? I read somewhere else that 40d might not reshape itself fast enough between shots. is that correct?
It's probably a polycarbonate piston. It's certainly not a metal piston, this piston is almost clear. I have a Classic Army blue piston w/ a full metal tooth rack, short stroked 1 tooth, with a G&G ported polycarbonate piston head, pulling an AMP 120 spring in my KWA M4. Works great!
Continue......so that there is less stress on the pickup and evenly spread out through the first couple of teeth. Before this idea became popular people would constantly snap off the pickup tooth of the piston. This helps that to not happen....Numbers in post below apply to hand positions on a clock and not times in the video.
Hey buddy, great video!! bty I also tech guns and its great to see well made how to videos. but heres a tip i always do, I always cut the frist tooth off, and only half of the second tooth, I feel it helps with heavy spring, because I usually run m140 spring, i wear out the engagment gear at the back if I have both teeth removed. anyways still a great video
@RCVAirsoft Vaaaat? Aaahhhhhh ... okaaay. You make a good point. Please add more details in comment and I shall post it in the description. Having said that ... have a good day.
Dude your video is hilarious. Overall it was great but I think you should mention the idea behind it. As in you're taking stress off the pickup "toot" of the piston :P
you don't necessarily have to grind both of them flat.. it wouldve been okay at halfway.. or shave 1st tooth completely off and second tooth halfway. (airsoft player since 99')
Thank for sharing this video, just followed your instructions and installed a 70D sorbo pad on my VFC HK416, it's been helping to silence the ladder, check it out on my channel!
Grossa cazzata..... togliendo anche il secondo dente, si sforza talmente il terzo in fase di lavoro che con poche raffiche il settoriale non ingaggia più il pistone..... Senza contare che l'angolo di aggancio al primo dente è completamente errato!!!!
@Mjarf88 Great. I'm glad it worked for you. Thanks for commenting.
Will do. Under normal (stock) setups the first tooth of the sector gear engages the piston at roughly 1:30. That means there is a lot of un-needed force on that first tooth of the piston since it is pulling the whole spring on one tooth for a few millimeters. The starting energy of a cycle is also the most demanding and for all of that force to be on the pick-up is bad. So the purpose of correcting AoE is to aid the piston and act as a spacer so the sector can engage at roughly 12:00...Continue
I use all SHS parts though I would not recommend this particular piston from SHS. I broke 5 of these pistons. If you are gonna get a shs piston I would recommend the blue nylon all metal tooth piston. Love that one.
Its good you have slow and clear accent! Very clear video.
What accent do you have? also what piston is that? very nice video thank you
Good job on the toots :3 great vid!
@anielsen100 thanks. they also reduce noise considerably so you can sneak up on your competition.
2 questions: if i plan on running a high compression setup with an m140 spring, how much fps drop will i get from the sorbopad? Also, wouldn't removing the two teeth jeopardize the grip that the sector gear's teeth has on the piston?
What's the purpose if this? What affect does it have on performance? What affect does it have on reliability?
@Juzh123. If you don't remove piston teeth accordingly you won't have proper AOE. What you gain is proper AOE and thus your gears, piston and motor will last longer, way longer.
How did you remove the "stock sorbo" from the cylinder?
where did you get the sorbo pads?
could i put the sorbo on a plastic piston head ?
What thickness of pad did you use? 1/8th inch?
What's the thickness of that sorbo?
i'm working on correcting the aoe of one of my gearboxes. the website where I am ordering sorbo pads is suggesting 40d sorbo's. in your opinion, is 40d too soft? I read somewhere else that 40d might not reshape itself fast enough between shots. is that correct?
It's probably a polycarbonate piston. It's certainly not a metal piston, this piston is almost clear. I have a Classic Army blue piston w/ a full metal tooth rack, short stroked 1 tooth, with a G&G ported polycarbonate piston head, pulling an AMP 120 spring in my KWA M4. Works great!
You have awesome accent dude, made me smile. Good video btw.
I do that too. In this video I didn't show that but thanks for the comment.
Continue......so that there is less stress on the pickup and evenly spread out through the first couple of teeth. Before this idea became popular people would constantly snap off the pickup tooth of the piston. This helps that to not happen....Numbers in post below apply to hand positions on a clock and not times in the video.
Hey buddy, great video!! bty I also tech guns and its great to see well made how to videos. but heres a tip i always do, I always cut the frist tooth off, and only half of the second tooth, I feel it helps with heavy spring, because I usually run m140 spring, i wear out the engagment gear at the back if I have both teeth removed.
anyways still a great video
"That's my fiancé calling" Roflmao XD btw good video man.
@RCVAirsoft Vaaaat? Aaahhhhhh ... okaaay. You make a good point. Please add more details in comment and I shall post it in the description. Having said that ... have a good day.
SHS is a damn good brand. everyone ive talked to said SHS is the way to go.
where can I get those pads? I can´t find them in eBay
If you haven't found them already get them on evike.
@DeathShepardAirsoft thank you.
Love this video helped me alot ! Also , love this dude !!
thanks for the video :) this is a big help for me :)
Love the voice, also great and informative, thanks!
Dude your video is hilarious. Overall it was great but I think you should mention the idea behind it. As in you're taking stress off the pickup "toot" of the piston :P
Your so funny when you said "Tooth" it sounded like "Toot". That just earned you a sub xD
you don't necessarily have to grind both of them flat.. it wouldve been okay at halfway.. or shave 1st tooth completely off and second tooth halfway. (airsoft player since 99')
i thought the same
@Roush427r5 I purchased mine from clandestineairsoft
I love your accent, and the video was very helpful :)
Love the thai/filipino accent. Also, great tutorial.
@6:38 "so let us continue wid de second part of de tooting!"
yea its immature but its still funny regardless lol
lost my shit at "dis toot and dis toot are in the vay" hahaha, good vid man, love the accent
You should have sanded the surfaces before applying glue at the 1:50 to 2:00 minute mark.
thank you sir.
this video is missing one thing... he forgot to mention that the spring compresses the sorbothane.
funny and informative! I like it :D
great learning curve, will follow!
tanks dude ... tanks!
dis toot and dis toot
is in the wae
that SHS clear tooth piston is a fail clone of the azimuth. Use the unclear blue colour shs ones :P
Ta da!....
you shouldn't remove those 2 teeth because it puts extra stress on the pick up tooth... remove all of the second tooth and only half the third tooth
helpful vid. also entertaining.. "tadaaa.. tadaaa" lol..xD
idk if hes filipino or german
Is this Grüe talking ?
@conan1me haha. i did not hang up on her, just cut it out haha.
in the title 70D
Cushion for the pushin!!!! LOLOL!!!!
Thank for sharing this video, just followed your instructions and installed a 70D sorbo pad on my VFC HK416, it's been helping to silence the ladder, check it out on my channel!
- RCV on AS
Despicable me. LOL
I don't buy it...it decreases the volume of air to be compressed by the thickness of the pad...you loose velocity
But it saves your gearbox. If you want more velocity fix the airseal or get a stronger spring but fps doesn't always effect range or accuracy.
Did you hang up on your fiancee?
But anyway, great video.
Wow! thats amazing! i was thinking that... how did you get a girl.
ta DAAAA'!
My accent is from a magical place ... and the piston is a very crappy shs polycarbonate piston. I don't recommend it. I use a different one now.
Sounds like it's either German, Dutch, or one of the Scandinavian countries XD.
Grossa cazzata..... togliendo anche il secondo dente, si sforza talmente il terzo in fase di lavoro che con poche raffiche il settoriale non ingaggia più il pistone..... Senza contare che l'angolo di aggancio al primo dente è completamente errato!!!!
Tood
toot
haha
You may be wondering how I got a girl, honestly I don't know either...
Lol Egotistical
the sorbo pad looks like the buffers for my GBBR
HAHA ohhh! that is my fiance callign haha