@__diosito__ Because mutha fricking *Gundam* is a classic that deserves to be studies by future storytellers and Anime Fans for _years_ to come, and only the uninitiated noobs would dare suggest that Gundam _isn't_ worthy of praise! (Just ignore the Gundam Series that has the most bad ratings, watch/listen to trusted reviews, and you'll be fine) It had the moral complexitynof Arcane, a galatic battle that rivaled Star Wars, was set in a possible future like Star Trek, and had enough mecha to inspire an entire Anime Genre! So don't you *dare* say that _Gundam_ of all things is what makes Snob detestable and not worth listening to!! (That's what his review of "Suisei no Guargantia" a.k.a. "Waterworld the Anime" is for I.M.O.)
2:14 I know this is off topic, but this reminds me why the Elf character archetype became a trend this year. I'm seeing a lot of young adults and even kids, really not wanting to come to terms with the fact they are not going to stay young forever. Im even seeing a lot of self deprecating memes of 20 year olds already having mid life crisises, just because the things they like, are also consider retro now. I guess this is a result of people being way too obssesed with physical appearance and constantly worrying with no longer being hip and modern.
@Grudgebearer47 Weebs no longer consume anime because is fun anymore, they do it because they hate themselves and they desperately want to escape reality. They don't see elves as badass dudes, they call them their comfort characters 🤢
To say something the Evangelion director also made Shin Godzilla and Shin Ultraman, one was a grim movie and the latter was an slightly sad movie but with overall positive vibes. Sorry for too much text, but I had to write it.
WRONG! People's memories can be flawed and erroneous. When you think back at "the good old days", you remember things, that most of the time, weren't even the way they are in your memories. Human memories are very much not reliable. Nostalgia is an expression of this: You remember things being better than they actually were. Your memories DO NOT stay the same for your entire life. They morph and change and very often you just forget a lot of things entirely. When you revisit something (e.g. an anime) from your childhood 20 year later, you'll find out, that it was very different than you remember it. That will definitely be the case! Why? Because human memories are NOT a constant; they change with time or even disappear completely. Therefore, nostalgia is not the same as recency bias. You will remember perfectly well, what you JUST watched. That doesn't change, that everyone is biased, yes, but it is still a different thing than fondly remembering something from a long time ago.
Modern is too bloated with following the same thread/blueprint of other successful series,retro anime/manga on other hand during its period,is considered still on age of exploration(inventing dozen tropes,cliches,and genre itself)
to me those shows aren't retro. to me retro stuff is the original gundam and akage no anne. i guess that snob and i have different definitions of "retro" but i have to say it was pretty funny when i watched his anime history videos where he trashes most 70s, 80s and early 90s stuff, to me he's not a real retro fan he just likes stuff he liked when he was a teenager and early 20s (during late 90s and 2000s), go through his anidb rating and you will see everything he rates high comes from that period which wasn't that long ago (ergo not retro) so yeah nostalgia places a huge part in his judgement
@JM-oj5tx true that isn't exactly retro. I do watch a few older shows but the first tales anime was hard enough for me to watch that I think as you said, it is shows that missed from at and just before my childhood that interests me.
Wait, I'm watching a 70s animé to help proof you're right I enjoy most of it, but there are some episodes where the episodic formula doesn't help the show: I hated that dolphin episode except for the conclusion. What I'm watching is an anime made adapted by Tatsunoku Productions called Kajaku Ninja-tai Gatchaman or in English: Science Ninja Squad Gatchaman. I don't know why but I got kind off bored by the first adaptation of Uchuu Senkan Yamato but I enjoyed mostly everything about Mobile Suit Gundam from 1979.
When he means “Retro always wins” he’s not talking about everything from past decades he’s talking about the highlights of those decades and how nothing today compares to them. There’s really worth watching from the 70s. It’s all episodic and really hard to marathon. Only some highlights from the 80s and 90s are worth watching.
@@jtiv576 No I mean, I'm enjoying Gatchaman a lot I understand his reasoning, in that particular case I'm adding to his explanation if that makes sense, the rest of the comments are another thing almost entirely but are slightly connected to that one.
@@jtiv576 I don't have any issue with pseudo- episodic shows, I love what little I have watched of tokusatsu even if Petros complained about some Sentai series I like in his retrospective. What I can agree on is that Zyuranger and Dairanger are mediocre to say the least.
@@chaserseven2886 Jetman is slightly overrated however it doesn't mean it's bad, I didn't mind the soap opera like sub plots cause I was invested on the team anyways and on the villain side as well (Radiguet was imposible to not enjoy for me). Yes, Zyuranger was so full of Deux Ex Machina that I preferred to mention Jetman.
I only watch Gatchaman when I feel like it, the same with Full Moon wo Sagashite, sorry if you hate those series now but maybe you hate them because you don't know how to accept the few times you're wrong about something so campy optimistic premises sound boring for you. I adore Neon Genesis Evangelion and Serial Experiments Laín, however I must admit that sometimes you need positive and imaginative series even as an grown adult. Maybe I say that because I'm autistic but I think I'm right.
There are multiple studies about this from the American Physiological Association, the Journal of Neuroscience, etc, on how people only remember the good and bad events in theirs life and don't remember the mundane stuff they did. They are even Physiological theories like the peak end rule for example. Regardless of studies, it's a universal truth if not to most extent. Ask yourself this question. Do you remember what you ate for dinner a month ago? All if not most people couldn't answer that, but still remember what they did during 9/11 or when a family member died or any other important event.
1:31 The highlights that you are talking about do change with time. You had it right there: you perfectly established that what a person considers to be relevant in a series does change with time, and yet you replied to this point saying "it is not that the highlights changed, you changed", as if for some reason there was an imaginary dichotomy between these two things. That is called making a false dichotomy (fallacy). The highlights are the things you care about. With time, your preferences change, which in turn changes what you care about. If what you care about changes with time and the things you care about are highlights, highlights change with time. It is a basic modus ponens inference. If B implies A, B, therefore A. Not to mention that you also committed a [tu quoqe fallacy]: they have recency bias (yet to be proven) hence it is okay for me to be blinded by nostalgia. ThatFallacySnob isn't beating the allegations. Though, it was fun to watch you circle around a point that you had no way to defend.
You forgot, that human memories are not reliable to begin with. They change over time. Very often you just forget most things, because the human brain constantly filters out what it considers to be "irrelevant information", which is something, that does not just apply to sensory impressions, but also to memories. When something happened DECADES in the past, you will only remember it, if you considered it to be very important, and even then, you'll just have a very sketchy recollection of it. Hence, what you remember might as well be just "a parody" of what actually happened, since you only remember very specific aspects of it, which you considered to be relevant/outstanding.
@@petermuller9480 Like how I remember Gotenks in SSJ3 fighting Super Buu and then Fat Buu appears, I don't know how I remembered that but I think it was because I was watching DBZ from an neighbor's CRT muted that day. That was 21 years ago.
@@hamlet1055 Super Buu is the result of Evil Buu absorbing Fat Buu. Fat Buu didn't even exist anymore when Gotenks fought Super Buu... So, I don't want to be mean or anything, but you seem to misremember that scene. Not really helping your argument, just saying....
@@petermuller9480 Yes, you were helping someone else's argument and what I said was a personal example from myself. You did it unintentionally I think but you did it at the end of the day.
2:08 That is a goddamn fallacy if I ever heard one. You can still be old and be wrong or have bad opinions. Or am I really supposed to believe you listening and aping what TheQuartering says in his videos is a sign of an intellectual?
So, as you can see ladies and gentlemen, The Snob doesn't have a blind love for Old Anime as most of his haters would say...
If thats true, why does like crap like Gundam ?
@__diosito__
Because mutha fricking *Gundam* is a classic that deserves to be studies by future storytellers and Anime Fans for _years_ to come, and only the uninitiated noobs would dare suggest that Gundam _isn't_ worthy of praise!
(Just ignore the Gundam Series that has the most bad ratings, watch/listen to trusted reviews, and you'll be fine)
It had the moral complexitynof Arcane, a galatic battle that rivaled Star Wars, was set in a possible future like Star Trek, and had enough mecha to inspire an entire Anime Genre! So don't you *dare* say that _Gundam_ of all things is what makes Snob detestable and not worth listening to!!
(That's what his review of "Suisei no Guargantia" a.k.a. "Waterworld the Anime" is for I.M.O.)
I get chills when I look back at the ending from Astro boy(2003) ending
The speech really has this sense of hope for a chance for something amazing
2:14 I know this is off topic, but this reminds me why the Elf character archetype became a trend this year. I'm seeing a lot of young adults and even kids, really not wanting to come to terms with the fact they are not going to stay young forever. Im even seeing a lot of self deprecating memes of 20 year olds already having mid life crisises, just because the things they like, are also consider retro now. I guess this is a result of people being way too obssesed with physical appearance and constantly worrying with no longer being hip and modern.
I always thought the elf archetype is trendy because elves are just cool af
@Grudgebearer47 Weebs no longer consume anime because is fun anymore, they do it because they hate themselves and they desperately want to escape reality. They don't see elves as badass dudes, they call them their comfort characters 🤢
To say something the Evangelion director also made Shin Godzilla and Shin Ultraman, one was a grim movie and the latter was an slightly sad movie but with overall positive vibes. Sorry for too much text, but I had to write it.
WRONG! People's memories can be flawed and erroneous. When you think back at "the good old days", you remember things, that most of the time, weren't even the way they are in your memories. Human memories are very much not reliable. Nostalgia is an expression of this: You remember things being better than they actually were. Your memories DO NOT stay the same for your entire life. They morph and change and very often you just forget a lot of things entirely. When you revisit something (e.g. an anime) from your childhood 20 year later, you'll find out, that it was very different than you remember it. That will definitely be the case! Why? Because human memories are NOT a constant; they change with time or even disappear completely.
Therefore, nostalgia is not the same as recency bias. You will remember perfectly well, what you JUST watched. That doesn't change, that everyone is biased, yes, but it is still a different thing than fondly remembering something from a long time ago.
I don’t why I enjoy the music from the time I wasn’t alive yet and despise the music from today
Same same
Retro always wins because Modern can't put up a fight
Modern is too bloated with following the same thread/blueprint of other successful series,retro anime/manga on other hand during its period,is considered still on age of exploration(inventing dozen tropes,cliches,and genre itself)
I won't say retro always wins but I have to admit, I have an easier time watch late 1990s - early 2000s shows I missed than watching modern ones.
to me those shows aren't retro. to me retro stuff is the original gundam and akage no anne. i guess that snob and i have different definitions of "retro" but i have to say it was pretty funny when i watched his anime history videos where he trashes most 70s, 80s and early 90s stuff, to me he's not a real retro fan he just likes stuff he liked when he was a teenager and early 20s (during late 90s and 2000s), go through his anidb rating and you will see everything he rates high comes from that period which wasn't that long ago (ergo not retro) so yeah nostalgia places a huge part in his judgement
@JM-oj5tx true that isn't exactly retro. I do watch a few older shows but the first tales anime was hard enough for me to watch that I think as you said, it is shows that missed from at and just before my childhood that interests me.
@@MorrisJohn-vo2vn Same.
See the thing is, usually you don't feel like you need to take a shower after watching an old anime.
Wait, I'm watching a 70s animé to help proof you're right I enjoy most of it, but there are some episodes where the episodic formula doesn't help the show: I hated that dolphin episode except for the conclusion. What I'm watching is an anime made adapted by Tatsunoku Productions called Kajaku Ninja-tai Gatchaman or in English: Science Ninja Squad Gatchaman. I don't know why but I got kind off bored by the first adaptation of Uchuu Senkan Yamato but I enjoyed mostly everything about Mobile Suit Gundam from 1979.
When he means “Retro always wins” he’s not talking about everything from past decades he’s talking about the highlights of those decades and how nothing today compares to them.
There’s really worth watching from the 70s. It’s all episodic and really hard to marathon. Only some highlights from the 80s and 90s are worth watching.
@@jtiv576 No I mean, I'm enjoying Gatchaman a lot I understand his reasoning, in that particular case I'm adding to his explanation if that makes sense, the rest of the comments are another thing almost entirely but are slightly connected to that one.
@@jtiv576 I don't have any issue with pseudo- episodic shows, I love what little I have watched of tokusatsu even if Petros complained about some Sentai series I like in his retrospective. What I can agree on is that Zyuranger and Dairanger are mediocre to say the least.
@@hamlet1055 i haven't seen Zyuranger but what i heard about it i don't blame him
@@chaserseven2886 Jetman is slightly overrated however it doesn't mean it's bad, I didn't mind the soap opera like sub plots cause I was invested on the team anyways and on the villain side as well (Radiguet was imposible to not enjoy for me). Yes, Zyuranger was so full of Deux Ex Machina that I preferred to mention Jetman.
What anime got better than you use to remember?
I only watch Gatchaman when I feel like it, the same with Full Moon wo Sagashite, sorry if you hate those series now but maybe you hate them because you don't know how to accept the few times you're wrong about something so campy optimistic premises sound boring for you. I adore Neon Genesis Evangelion and Serial Experiments Laín, however I must admit that sometimes you need positive and imaginative series even as an grown adult. Maybe I say that because I'm autistic but I think I'm right.
ThatWiseOldManSnob?
0:36 i assume you have some studies for this claim
This is a universal truth, that everyone can agree on.
@@Tuliotrivinooficial did you watch the end of the video?
@@chaserseven2886 Explain further
There are multiple studies about this from the American Physiological Association, the Journal of Neuroscience, etc, on how people only remember the good and bad events in theirs life and don't remember the mundane stuff they did. They are even Physiological theories like the peak end rule for example.
Regardless of studies, it's a universal truth if not to most extent. Ask yourself this question. Do you remember what you ate for dinner a month ago? All if not most people couldn't answer that, but still remember what they did during 9/11 or when a family member died or any other important event.
@@kortezg1662pizza hut and I was too young to remember 9/11 I didn’t know it was a thing till high school
your videos are never rec. in my feed
press the bell
1:31 The highlights that you are talking about do change with time. You had it right there: you perfectly established that what a person considers to be relevant in a series does change with time, and yet you replied to this point saying "it is not that the highlights changed, you changed", as if for some reason there was an imaginary dichotomy between these two things. That is called making a false dichotomy (fallacy).
The highlights are the things you care about. With time, your preferences change, which in turn changes what you care about.
If what you care about changes with time and the things you care about are highlights, highlights change with time.
It is a basic modus ponens inference. If B implies A, B, therefore A.
Not to mention that you also committed a [tu quoqe fallacy]: they have recency bias (yet to be proven) hence it is okay for me to be blinded by nostalgia.
ThatFallacySnob isn't beating the allegations.
Though, it was fun to watch you circle around a point that you had no way to defend.
You forgot, that human memories are not reliable to begin with. They change over time. Very often you just forget most things, because the human brain constantly filters out what it considers to be "irrelevant information", which is something, that does not just apply to sensory impressions, but also to memories. When something happened DECADES in the past, you will only remember it, if you considered it to be very important, and even then, you'll just have a very sketchy recollection of it. Hence, what you remember might as well be just "a parody" of what actually happened, since you only remember very specific aspects of it, which you considered to be relevant/outstanding.
@@petermuller9480 Like how I remember Gotenks in SSJ3 fighting Super Buu and then Fat Buu appears, I don't know how I remembered that but I think it was because I was watching DBZ from an neighbor's CRT muted that day. That was 21 years ago.
@@hamlet1055 Super Buu is the result of Evil Buu absorbing Fat Buu. Fat Buu didn't even exist anymore when Gotenks fought Super Buu...
So, I don't want to be mean or anything, but you seem to misremember that scene.
Not really helping your argument, just saying....
@@petermuller9480 Yes, I rewatched the Buu Saga like 9 years ago, here on good old TH-cam.
@@petermuller9480 Yes, you were helping someone else's argument and what I said was a personal example from myself. You did it unintentionally I think but you did it at the end of the day.
2:08 That is a goddamn fallacy if I ever heard one. You can still be old and be wrong or have bad opinions. Or am I really supposed to believe you listening and aping what TheQuartering says in his videos is a sign of an intellectual?
@@Falcovsleon21 he is a great story teller have you heard his fantasy about Gina Carano?
Interesting