This guy is so knowledgeable! I've watched probably hundreds of mechanic type yt channels and this guy is telling things hardly anyone else is saying. Seems like a nice guy but at the same time a no-nonsense guy when called for. He is very careful in his language as well which is a virtue lost on modern society. Subscribed from the first vid I watched (tips/tutorial about oiling) and click every single vid that pops up in my feed
Cool. I have a Turbo 350 with Chevy 327 v8 on my Toyota build. It’s a project car, and everything Ed talks about relates, to what I am working on. Can’t miss a single interview. Getting this old analog car to start, and run reliable like a digital controlled modern car on the cheap is a learning experience. Thanks
The gasket Ed had that didn’t match his old gasket he had removed prior is for a TH350c transmission. The last version of the th350s GM produced. The C meaning “clutch” in the converter so they could squeeze out maybe 1-2 more miles per gallon. This was done during the fuel crisis around 1979-82 I bet you remember that lol. All modern automatics have that feature today. Ford/Chrysler did similar things. Ford C4s went to C5s. C5 basically same trans with clutch in converter.. Tell Ed Hello from TN. Thanks Barry! PS more than likely the customer ordered or was given the wrong rebuild kit. But the only thing different is the valve body gaskets all internals seals rings steels clutches are the same.
Great comment - I believe you are absolutely right. Those lock-ups were helpful as long as they worked properly. I'll tell Ed hi from TN - Thanks for joining us!
@BarryTsGarage Put a 350C in my 78' Monte Carlo on vacuum selionoids, and it worked very well. The selionoids were adjustable like vacuum advance pods for HEI ignition. That combination can be pushed in a race environment for SS production. Old guys got old tricks.
Man, I remember learning that stuff from old guys like me back in the 1980s. Such great videos. I would love to see a full assembly but that might be too much to ask. And Barry you know a lot more about cars than you let on as others have said. Thank you
Thanks!! 🙏 Maybe we can work up to a full assembly. I would like to film that, the problem is that Ed is technically retired so he comes and goes to the shop as he feels like it and of course he’s earned that privilege … It’s just a little more difficult to always be there at the right time!
@@BarryTsGarage I could probably film an guy who has near fourty years into automatic transmissions. He built stout 350, 350C and 400s from almost all stock parts. He also reconfigured the balls and drilled the valve body plates. Spring changes to stuff he figured out. I'm sure other tricks are in there we missed watching him build them in our early twenties.
An old racer, smart enjoys life but they are tough and competitive, nice to see him giving away some of his old secrets. I haven't raced for 20 years but I still wont tell my secrets on carbs.
Did Ed ever deal with Gil Younger who founded Transgo? Gil helped us out many times in the late 1960s and early '70s. Back then, he race-prepped a Ford FMX valve body for me. It is still in service and working great. Gil was an extremely knowledgeable gentleman, like Ed. R.I.P. Gil. Keep doing what you do for a very long time, Ed!
I KNEW A MECHANIC THAT HAS PASSED. HE WAS LIKE THIS GUY, HE WOULD COLLECT ALL SORTS OF ENGINES, TRANSMISSIONS AND MIX MATCH, DRILL, CUT AND SWAP. IT WORKED! IF SOMETHING WAS WRONG, HE COULD FIX IT OVER THE PHONE. LANE BAUMBERGER, WAS THAT GUY. SADLY MISSED.
On the stop leak seals being expanded. Old timers told me they used to put like 5 drops of brake fluid in them to stop leaks and it looks like someone put too much in
We always used brake fluid.. Seen it revive many a transmission that wouldn’t even move.. Got another 20k miles out of one, sold the car and it was still working fine but we always used a whole bottle..lol
In the old days car manufacturers actually recommended adding a cup of kerosene in the trans to help get them moving especially in the cold weather. Also instead of increasing pressure and stressing the internals just remove the wave plates in the clutch packs and maybe take out some of the clutch pack springs so there is less force needed to engage. It's the cheap "shift kit". Big cars especially had heavy springs that slowed engagement for really smooth shifting. Just the wave plate removal really makes a difference for daily drivers and the spring removal is best for sportier driving.
This is so cool. You know i hope they have an apprentice working with ed so that as much of his knowledge can continue to be passed on. I Don t know what price you can put on his experience alone.
Back in the day used car lots would dump brake fluid in an automatic just to get the cars off the lot it would have the same effect on the rubbers as the one you're holding at 12:28
If you ever send one on the track or a strip and steet racer, they leave extremely well on slicks. This dead simple transmission coupled to an overdrive is tough to beat.
Building drag race autos is well trodden ground but there seems to be little on using autos for road courses. How do you get them to handle aggressive back shifting?
TRANS-X or TRANS-MEDIC is what you are dealing with, if the steel separator plate is rusty, otherwise BRAKE FLUID will swell the seals like that. The only fix-in-a-bottle I recommend is Lucas STOP-SLIP, but nothing really is a permanent fix besides a rebuild.
Earlier transmissions weren't too bad. If you can read and watch a video and aren't afraid of your own shadow and if you can take a picture or two if you aren't doing it all that day anyone can.
Do you know anything about Chryslers - (Clutch Flight Automatic) From back in the early seventies? They were used in drag racing. I remember watching them run, around the Great Lakes.
Ed knows quite a lot about the Chrysler. He even raced a supercharged hemi Cuda back in the day, I will ask Ed to tell us some more stories about that in a future episode!
Two words Gil younger. I have built auto transmissions for over 25 years Gil was a master I know you have heard of him. If you build a transmission to factory spec you built a piece of shit if you build it on machinest rule you have built a master piece.
This guy is so knowledgeable! I've watched probably hundreds of mechanic type yt channels and this guy is telling things hardly anyone else is saying. Seems like a nice guy but at the same time a no-nonsense guy when called for. He is very careful in his language as well which is a virtue lost on modern society. Subscribed from the first vid I watched (tips/tutorial about oiling) and click every single vid that pops up in my feed
Thanks so much! Great to have you along! 👍👍🙏
Just wanted to thank you Barry for spending all your time getting us this information from all your sources. A big thumbs up!
So nice of you - Thanks
Ed's is just not replaceable, God love Ed forever 🏁
Ed always puts a smile on my face.. He seems like a good old guy
He is definitely a good man, and he has a great sense of humor!
@@BarryTsGarage And sure knows these old classic engines as well ...
Cool. I have a Turbo 350 with Chevy 327 v8 on my Toyota build. It’s a project car, and everything Ed talks about relates, to what I am working on. Can’t miss a single interview. Getting this old analog car to start, and run reliable like a digital controlled modern car on the cheap is a learning experience. Thanks
Very cool!
The gasket Ed had that didn’t match his old gasket he had removed prior is for a TH350c transmission. The last version of the th350s GM produced. The C meaning “clutch” in the converter so they could squeeze out maybe 1-2 more miles per gallon. This was done during the fuel crisis around 1979-82 I bet you remember that lol. All modern automatics have that feature today. Ford/Chrysler did similar things. Ford C4s went to C5s. C5 basically same trans with clutch in converter.. Tell Ed Hello from TN. Thanks Barry! PS more than likely the customer ordered or was given the wrong rebuild kit. But the only thing different is the valve body gaskets all internals seals rings steels clutches are the same.
Great comment - I believe you are absolutely right. Those lock-ups were helpful as long as they worked properly. I'll tell Ed hi from TN - Thanks for joining us!
@BarryTsGarage
Put a 350C in my 78' Monte Carlo on vacuum selionoids, and it worked very well. The selionoids were adjustable like vacuum advance pods for HEI ignition. That combination can be pushed in a race environment for SS production. Old guys got old tricks.
Another peice of ed Smith Golden info, thanx guys😊
Glad you enjoyed it - it's so great to have you joining us here.
INCLINED, TO THE MAX!
Love this guy. Thank you for the interview, knowledge from this man is priceless.
I helped make forward clutch housings for alot of those starting in 1968.
True man of genius
Man, I remember learning that stuff from old guys like me back in the 1980s. Such great videos. I would love to see a full assembly but that might be too much to ask. And Barry you know a lot more about cars than you let on as others have said. Thank you
Thanks!! 🙏 Maybe we can work up to a full assembly. I would like to film that, the problem is that Ed is technically retired so he comes and goes to the shop as he feels like it and of course he’s earned that privilege … It’s just a little more difficult to always be there at the right time!
@@BarryTsGarage
I could probably film an guy who has near fourty years into automatic transmissions. He built stout 350, 350C and 400s from almost all stock parts. He also reconfigured the balls and drilled the valve body plates. Spring changes to stuff he figured out. I'm sure other tricks are in there we missed watching him build them in our early twenties.
An old racer, smart enjoys life but they are tough and competitive, nice to see him giving away some of his old secrets. I haven't raced for 20 years but I still wont tell my secrets on carbs.
You should! 😃
Did Ed ever deal with Gil Younger who founded Transgo? Gil helped us out many times in the late 1960s and early '70s. Back then, he race-prepped a Ford FMX valve body for me. It is still in service and working great.
Gil was an extremely knowledgeable gentleman, like Ed. R.I.P. Gil. Keep doing what you do for a very long time, Ed!
I’ll ask Ed 👍
thanks for posting great to know this info keep videoing ed
Thanks, really enjoy Ed.
Great - thanks for the feedback, Alvin!
What a great channel! thank you both.
Glad you enjoy it! Thank you
HOLY COW the conduit FREAKING OFF THE HOOK
👍👍🙏
I KNEW A MECHANIC
THAT HAS PASSED. HE WAS LIKE THIS GUY, HE WOULD COLLECT ALL SORTS OF ENGINES, TRANSMISSIONS AND MIX MATCH, DRILL, CUT AND SWAP. IT WORKED!
IF SOMETHING WAS WRONG, HE COULD FIX IT OVER THE PHONE.
LANE BAUMBERGER, WAS THAT GUY.
SADLY MISSED.
Thanks for the info always learning something new here
Great to have you along, thank you
On the stop leak seals being expanded. Old timers told me they used to put like 5 drops of brake fluid in them to stop leaks and it looks like someone put too much in
Probably a good guess
We always used brake fluid.. Seen it revive many a transmission that wouldn’t even move.. Got another 20k miles out of one, sold the car and it was still working fine but we always used a whole bottle..lol
Those valve body gaskets are for a 350-C lock-up (late model) torque converter unit.
That must be what happened
In the old days car manufacturers actually recommended adding a cup of kerosene in the trans to help get them moving especially in the cold weather.
Also instead of increasing pressure and stressing the internals just remove the wave plates in the clutch packs and maybe take out some of the clutch pack springs so there is less force needed to engage.
It's the cheap "shift kit".
Big cars especially had heavy springs that slowed engagement for really smooth shifting.
Just the wave plate removal really makes a difference for daily drivers and the spring removal is best for sportier driving.
Great comment
That trick was around in the sixties maybe earlier.
This is so cool. You know i hope they have an apprentice working with ed so that as much of his knowledge can continue to be passed on. I Don t know what price you can put on his experience alone.
He’s passed down quite a bit to the younger guys
I want to chrysler school in the 90s I built 727s and 904s but I worked on 604s
Back in the day used car lots would dump brake fluid in an automatic just to get the cars off the lot it would have the same effect on the rubbers as the one you're holding at 12:28
70's magazines claimed big power auto trans were 727 clutchflite . manual clutch no torque converter . anyone else heard of a clutchflite
If you ever send one on the track or a strip and steet racer, they leave extremely well on slicks. This dead simple transmission coupled to an overdrive is tough to beat.
Place I worked bottled brake fluid as a 'swell seal' transmission repair.
That could explain this seal problem. I imagine a LITTLE might be good while a LOT could be terrible....
Brake fluid will also do this to the seals
thank you
And thank you 🙏
Building drag race autos is well trodden ground but there seems to be little on using autos for road courses. How do you get them to handle aggressive back shifting?
That seems like a worthy question for me to ask Ed! Thank you
In heavy duty, there are automatic and powershift. Powershift is similar to the manual reverse shift modification to automatics.
How did you get the case so nice and clean?
Ed is a PRO 😁
TRANS-X or TRANS-MEDIC is what you are dealing with, if the steel separator plate is rusty, otherwise BRAKE FLUID will swell the seals like that. The only fix-in-a-bottle I recommend is Lucas STOP-SLIP, but nothing really is a permanent fix besides a rebuild.
Thank you - great comment
Seal conditioner,,,,, two ounces of dot three brake fluid, helps bands and clutchs too
Sure but if you keep adding it, over time it can “overcondition” aka swell the seals too much. Like in this case…. 🤔
@@BarryTsGarage true, I should have also said with each fluid change
Right on
So leave the Laquer thinner in the transmission until the next service?!
It just evaporates and disappears….
❤ 👍 👍
Earlier transmissions weren't too bad. If you can read and watch a video and aren't afraid of your own shadow and if you can take a picture or two if you aren't doing it all that day anyone can.
I use cheetah shift kits
Looks like it had some brake fluid in it.
Might have - a good guess 👍
Do you know anything about Chryslers - (Clutch Flight Automatic) From back in the early seventies? They were used in drag racing. I remember watching them run, around the Great Lakes.
Ed knows quite a lot about the Chrysler. He even raced a supercharged hemi Cuda back in the day, I will ask Ed to tell us some more stories about that in a future episode!
Two words Gil younger. I have built auto transmissions for over 25 years Gil was a master I know you have heard of him. If you build a transmission to factory spec you built a piece of shit if you build it on machinest rule you have built a master piece.
I think you are awesome FACT you have more knowledge than I could ever dream about.