Hey guys, when this video launched, it contained some erroneous information due to unit conversion errors that made the van's existing lead acid batteries sound like they had a lot less capacity compared to the DJI lithium batteries. Sadly, we actually caught the error before publishing but failed to address it properly. We have now cut that info from the video (apologies if you can detect a couple weird cuts) and are improving our processes to mitigate this happening again.. In the end, the DJI batteries are used to power the gaming elements, while the lead acid batteries power the van's functions. Altogether, Emily has effectively double the watt hours compared to before the project: the lead acid batteries are 400Ah x 12V = 4800Wh, but you can only use roughly 50% of the capacity of a lead acid battery, giving us a useable 2400Wh from those two batteries- plus the 2048Wh we get from the two DJI Power 1000s.
Its depends, you can use 100% but then the battery will only last 100 cycles, if you only use the wan for weeks in the summer the battery will die of age before you reach 100 cycles. Do you live in a wan you only want to use the battery down to 50% and get 500 cycles before the battery is dead.
Lithium batteries are fantastic for power density but if space isn't an issue sodium ion all the way, a lead acid in recyclability and longer life , wider temps so safer than lead acid . I've only found importable sodium ion batteries and would love to see them tested .CanadianSolar has some new bifacial panels capable of 475 watts max. Not affiliated , just solar enthusiast and like Canadian built. less shipping and supports local R&D. Just as suggestions , I've been looking into this and new technology every year.
Imagine enjoying the nature, temporarily forgetting about technology and annoying city life then seeing Linus’ family pull up next to you with this gamer van.
We are fulltime RVers with 2 gaming PCs. Recommend having adjustable vent ducts so they can push hot air outside in summer, and keep it inside for winter.
@@D3nn1s with water cooling it would be not that hard. A custom inlay for a split opened window is all you need. Even if the window comes solid, there are replacement kits to buy.
Thread locker or compression washers/tooth washers are absolutely needed in anything that is on the road. It's amazing how even some of the tightest bolts will loosen up over time due to vibration without thread lock.
@@LinusTechTipsI work for a mobile tire service that operates in the Vancouver area, specifically in sprinter vans outfitted with extra battery packs, and we had a couple packs get destroyed because even the nylock nuts backed off over time and the terminals melted out of the batteries. I'd recommend a service interval to check the nuts over and avoid similar issues, just did my monthly check this morning!
Yup, lost a screw on my motorbike's luggage rack that way. It was torqued well but I ran out of loctite for one of the screws and sure enough after 2000kms it rattled out.
This is so true, i have a Fiesta ST with very stiff engine mounts and stiff shocks, the amount of bolts and nuts i lost because they came lose even at factory torque spec is insane
Ahh, welcome to the interesting person club! I've been on it for years! (Search History from whenever I pause YT videos to see what things are/how they work, lol) Hey there agent who got assigned to me, hope your day is going well! 😂
In the military they deploy commercial electronics solutions in (like computers) in ruggedized boxes called transit cases. The computers are used as-is in the battlefield running inside their transit cases, like a little rack. That topic could make a good video: how the military uses transit cases to “ruggedize” conventional commercial hardware.
They also tend towards starting off using things like Toughbooks or Thinkpads or even those Dells that are simply called Rugged. Working certain places, in particular pharma factories, we used to have everyone hand in their phones and electronic devices before could go near the plant. Those of us that needed to be contacted, got issued with what are termed 'EX' phones (ateX/ieceX) that are hardened in a different way. You really do not want a regular phone around when a tanker of toluene is being emptied.
I too, feel like it's been a little long since we've had a proper tech video from them. Last one I watched in full was their laptop video. I prefer their 10-13 min videos and more of them.
I really like that that projector allows you to just get your own streaming box. so many smart TVs don't have longevity in mind and it's nice to know at least ONE company cares.
I use that projector almost everyday... I bought it for camping, which it works great for that but I found that its great for projecting on my ceiling when I am going to bed. Love it.
I work on a big box truck as a sewer mainline camera tech. We have a computer system built into the trucks that's just a rack mount setup, no shock absorbers or anything. Our trucks are 10 & 14 years old, neither computer has ever had an issue (and both have mechanical hard drives), though we dont have GPUs to worry as they aren't gaming machines.
I have heard differently too. A system in a truck that would need new hard drives every year and then when upgraded to an SSD ran perfectly for years. Could it be that your cab has shock absorbers anyway? Considering putting hard drives in a shopping cart and pushing them across a parking lot is enough to kill a significant amount of them I am very surprised that yours have lasted that long without any failures in a truck.
@@conorstewart2214 mechanical hard drives have the shocks you can get in a van very well inside the rated specification (for when they are off). They actually get more shock during deliveries when delivery operator throw boxes around.
It's a good thing you didn't replace that entire electric system with that "Solar Generator" as the correction voice said you went from 400Ah (AMP HOURS) to 1,100Wh (WATT HOURS) and when you convert those batteries from Ah to Wh it's over 4 times the battery storage than the sponsors product. Yes it's a nice single package but misleading.
Yeah each of those lead acid batteries is about twice the capacity of the DJI one. Honestly the 2.4kw output rating inside the small package is very impressive and the best thing of that power bank. Otherwise a 100Ah battery with lead acid has a better price to performance ratio.
Are those batteries 12V? Like is that standard for these camper batteries? I actually dont know… thought it might be even higher in which case the Wh would of course go up even more
I got my mom a "17 1080p 144hz HDR600 portable monitor because of the limited space in our living room. It is single-handedly what convinced me to get an HDR monitor of my own. Totally killer display!!
HDR is a game changer. People sitting on their old monitors/TVs thinking things can’t be *that* much better nowadays have no clue, it makes games look so much less flat.
@@Jishkah just looked at the specs of my monitors and found out that while the main monitor doesn't support HDR, the other two, sub that I don't use often and portable one that I've only used like a few times, both support HDR lmao
I noticed the same, you can see later in the video that theyre actually L-shaped hook things, so not as sharp, however I would still cap them with rubber
I just bought a van to convert and have been trying to think of ways to mount and use my PC. This video is made for me, especially dealing with vibrations, thanks guys!
Just get a laptop. You'll have enough headaches converting already. Worrying about something coming loose and breaking off inside your PC is the last thing you'd want. Besides, it's hard to beat laptops on power efficiency, even though their thermals are awful.
@zombl337og yeah! Most camper vans do! But that insulation only goes so far haha, I know for a fact lol (I live in an RV and used to in a travel van) The external ACs are a life saver though! My current rig (Class A RV) has 13000 btu and 15000 btu AC and heat pump units. They are a life saver
READ THE PINNED COMMENT TO SEE THE CORRECTION MADE. MY ORIGINAL COMMENT BELOW: 24:26 Correction, it does not have a larger capacity. The old battery system they were looking at Ah (Amp hours) whereas the new system they were looking at Wh (Watt hours). When you convert the Ah system to Wh it has at least double the storage capacity of the sponsor product, and that's with only discharging those batteries to 50% (something considered good practice on AGM batteries). If you look at the full capacity the old system has ~4x the storage capacity of the sponsor product. As a tech media company you should really be looking at the details for tech like this when doing sponsor segments. This is the same as if you were doing a wifi product sponsor segment and said megaBYTES vs megaBITS. Very misleading.
I think he actually means the output in Watts in this case. Not the battery capacity itself as he said "power capacity ". Which in fairness is not the best way to say that but it is correct.
@@angryjoshi They'd have to issue multiple corrections, they referenced this multiple times during the video. On the other hand I can't see them not doing it, it's a pretty big fuckup.
This is my dream, for real. Getting to go where I want, when I want, and do what I want (game lol) when I get there. Get to be in nature, wake up to the sunrise in a beautiful place, and play some red dead or halo after I drink my coffee. That’s peak life goals.
just make sure to avoid the powerstations. build your own system, way chaeper and more flexible, and can be repared. just like computers, build it yourselve. Victron has great inverters, that can do much more than most other inverters.
It’s a shame they don’t understand the significant difference in Ah to Wh…that lead acid pack with 400Ah would work out to 4,800Wh if they are 12V per battery and would be double that if they are 24V…
@@MaXwellFalstein nope. 200ah 12v per battery, so that's 200ah 24v (or 400ah 12v). so 4800wh. Buttt, its lead acid. DOD is about 50-60% for those so usable capacity is 2400-2880WH total. No upgrade in kwh, but they did get an upgrade in lifespan and features.
Wait, but how? That car is just an SUV, how do you have room for all those things? I've wanted to put a gaming setup in my SUV but didn't think it would work well due to the space constraints.
Excited for your editor, but wow! As I run my channel that is majority based around van life and building, and those that actually follow a bunch of van life channels knows that Trent The Traveler probably has the best gamer van. I respect you had to do something for DJI so can't hate on that. Sadly our industry (van life) is now trendy the past few years and it's been ruined
Love your channel and agreed; No hate against this couple's van, but you can't title the video that this is the ultimate gamer camper van when Trent's van exists.
A gaming laptop in a combination with an external monitor + keyboard and mouse on a proper desk with a real chair is what I use at home. Desktops are ultimately the best but being someone who moves a lot, I traded the little bit of extra horsepower for mobility years ago. That said, his setup in his van is indeed the most practical.
The DJI battery is awesome - but it is repeatedly said they have more capacity than the 400ah battery bank and that is not true. The 400ah should have 4800Wh, with around 2400Wh usable. This is more than the claimed useable 2048Wh capacity of the dual DJI setup, which is probably closer to 1638Wh if the lithium 80% useable rule of thumb holds true for their batteries. I get that ad reads are ad reads, but this seems to be an actually false statement with the information provided.
@@APhoenixWithin They are 12V 200Ah batteries, they have two, so ya 4800Wh. Those are deep cycle batteries so they have much more than 50% usable capacity as well.
He really is having too much fun with that EinScan and AvidCNC. His inner jank is being replaced (mostly) with solutions that are actually very good. That base for the dual pc build, is superb.
13:10 - No, Linus, that's freekin' dangerous. Those brackets are going to go through someone's knee or thigh at some point. Plus that hinge is jank due to the wiggle. Needs to be both safer and more robust.
also, the whole table folds up in front of the projector screen, and with the table down they have to be in couch mode. There's no way for them to use the projector in bed mode. I think they used all their interior design powers on the PC table and had nothing left for the regular table
I was just watching Trent the Traveler and I'm thinking. Hmmm that man is just recently passing through Canada right now. Colab?! A man could only dream.
@@Stuka01210 he's a "Van Life" TH-camr that has a big gaming focus. He drives a Ram Promaster as well so I think that's why my head instantly went there. His content is really well done. However his main sponsor is ASUS, and correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think LTT and ASUS are really playing friendly at the moment.
@randomguy1371 I never said, that the new Batteries are better, just that the 4800W are not usable. From the old batteries they can get about 2400Wh and from the new ones 2048Wh. So effectively they are about the same.
I have been looking for one of those power supply for many years. The only one greater then 250 watts currently out there are 70% effecent. I get better results using an seawolf 80PLUS couple with a Vitron pure sine wave inverter. The mini-pc 12v power supplies only go to about 250 watts max.
It's a little bit of an unusual feature compared to their competitors. Faik ones like the Jackery's don't have it. They would very quite overpriced to use just as a UPS for home/soho, but then then APC/Cyberpower types aren't (usually) suited for portable/mobile power. Love to see the idea, regardless of how niche the actual use may be. That they can do very easy daisy-chaining is extremely cool, though I think they'd need more sockets to make in-roads into the sort of setups used by sound/video vans at live events etc.
Victron MultiPlus has UPS mode too, if anybody is interested in a proper system. Portable power stations are crap for anything serious. If I was tent camping, I'd love one.
@@nashdashflash I don't think Victron do portables yet, even APC don't seem to be in the market yet, which strikes me as a bit odd. By portables, I mean the types like the DJI/Jackery's that have seen on channel, not some little phone charger, maybe need a new term like 'luggable'
@@benwu7980Sorry, to be clear... I don't think people should use portable power stations like this in a camping van with serious power needs. Full stop. They should build out a proper, built-in system.
Yeah surprised to see them mixing ah and wh. Even if lead acid only has about 50% usable capacity thats still more than the two new batteries combined, yet they are claiming three times the capacity...
Yes that is a valid solution for most people but LTT are not most people. There is the simple and easy way and then there is the LTT way that is sometimes sketchy and jank but that is why I like the LTT way better.
400 Ah for 12V = 4800 wh - 1024wh solar generator is a downgrade. For 2 PCs 1024 wh is not much for gaming, I have a 2048 wh one and can game on it about 2.5 hours. edit: laptop would be better as they could bypass inefficiency of DC - AC - DC conversions and have DC - DC power. Not aware of any PC power supply that takes in DC power
18:15 I'm getting really frustated with the inaccuracy of the information given by LTT. In the begining of the video 9:40 you can see that there are 2 200 Ah battery's, assuming they are 12V which is the minimum for a camper (they can also be 24V or higher). You can calculate the total capacity of the power system: 2 * 200 Ah * 12V = 4800 Wh (with lead acid not being able to discharge fully you get arround 4000 Wh). While the DJI power bank is only 1000 Wh. Linus mentions that the DJI has multiple times the capacity which is clearly not true. I can understand that when shooting this video this wasn't clear, but where is your pinned comment correcting this information like you guys promised in a video previous summer?? You have a whole engineering department and none of them can calculate the capacity of a battery bank?? This is false advertising and should be illegal. Please only watch these video's for entertainment and never accept buyer's advise from them.
Used to do tech work for law enforcement and the coolest project I did was installing multiple PC's, displays and full network into an old ambulance turned mobile command unit for a police department...something awesome about doing tech in a vehicle!
When Linus said "Emily" as he started opening the van door, I was excited then immediately let down. No offense to this Emily, I just thought we were finally getting the return of the legend.
…. My grandparents have an old decommissioned schoolbus on the back of their hunting property… used as lodging for the loggers during the winter…. I’m getting ideas for its new use. 🤣🤣🤣
Decent ryzen 7 laptop (6800u/h with usb 4 or 7/8840u/h with oculink) + some egpu and indeed it would be more than enough and consume around 130-250w per setup
Yeah but the video wouldn't be the same. It is still about content, plus I'm sure the sponsor appreciates the message of "you'll be able to game on a regular PC with this".
4060 ti the 8GB variant... cmon LTT. 16GB variant was the minimum for this, games already struggle with 8gb vram buffers, specially at 1600p resolution
So I know this is only based on what we get to see on TH-cam but Linus seems to really appreciate his employees, which is rare nowadays. If I had a boss like Linus I would feel extremely lucky.
It's a cool project and I see a lot of "gamer vans" setups with desktops on TH-cam but it just doesn't make ANY sense to build a desktop on a Van, regardless of how compact it is. The laptops nowadays are more than plenty powerful and also have some of the best screens in the market in a muuuuch more portable form factor(depending on the laptop you can even take to coffee shops and whatnot) and also save so much space and power on a limited source such as batteries, desktops on vans are just so pointless.
@@renanmarcondess there are still lots of reasons to use a computer instead of a laptop: - Acustic: laptops are horrible loud under load - "Easy" to power. if you dont want to use the inverter you can just build a computer with a DC atx psu. good look finding a 200w+ laptop psu that takes 12, 24 or 48v DC as input - Expandability. adding even just 10gb/s networking to a laptop is stupid expensive (over 200$) for a pc ist about 20-40$ for a used nic from ebay.
I never comment on TH-cam but hearing our boy admit he was wrong was a breath of fresh air. Stay humble Linus, I’ve been watching you grown since the water cooled house
the entirely unnecessary metal bracket hanging down under the table is going to cut people around it forever. good idea. also good idea with all that power consumption in a van with a tiny power source. i guess the whole setup is relying on constantly idling with the van for power and heat.
READ THE PINNED COMMENT TO SEE THE CORRECTION MADE. MY ORIGINAL COMMENT BELOW: 18:04 Please make a comment about this being incorrect. The Ah vs Wh difference makes it so it only has about 1/4 the battery storage capacity of the bigger system. This is an example of the media not understanding the difference of small things like mb/s vs MB/s and then confusing consumers because of that misunderstanding.
something I have noticed about converting a van into a camper/ RV is: you have to make multiple TH-cam videos about it and you have to tell everyone you know about it.
I continue to wonder why, in every "installed in a car" video i've ever watched, everyone goes out of their way to turn a DC power source into an AC power source, only to have the Power Supply convert it back again?!? 10 years ago I installed an Xbox 360 into a rental van right off the battery (fused, of course) completely eliminating the power brick, and negating the need for an inverter!
Because they're not running an Xbox......there's power effiency, battery charging and a whole heap of other things that come into play when using DC in a vehicle. You can't just run any electronic device from your battery.....your battery alone wouldn't last even running the xbox by itself....you'd barely get decent gameplay out of it
@@TzDavid95 You very much missed the point here. It is running from a battery so by going DC>AC>DC is a massive waste of power. And yes you can pretty much use every device from a battery
@@Ben1551 You know a battery drains power right.....? You know when charging a battery, the voltage increases, which causes issues with electronics.....or are you that simple?
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Hey guys, when this video launched, it contained some erroneous information due to unit conversion errors that made the van's existing lead acid batteries sound like they had a lot less capacity compared to the DJI lithium batteries. Sadly, we actually caught the error before publishing but failed to address it properly. We have now cut that info from the video (apologies if you can detect a couple weird cuts) and are improving our processes to mitigate this happening again..
In the end, the DJI batteries are used to power the gaming elements, while the lead acid batteries power the van's functions. Altogether, Emily has effectively double the watt hours compared to before the project: the lead acid batteries are 400Ah x 12V = 4800Wh, but you can only use roughly 50% of the capacity of a lead acid battery, giving us a useable 2400Wh from those two batteries- plus the 2048Wh we get from the two DJI Power 1000s.
that was fast, nice :)
Gotta say, really nice that you correct yourself
Its depends, you can use 100% but then the battery will only last 100 cycles, if you only use the wan for weeks in the summer the battery will die of age before you reach 100 cycles. Do you live in a wan you only want to use the battery down to 50% and get 500 cycles before the battery is dead.
Correction: tip
Lithium batteries are fantastic for power density but if space isn't an issue sodium ion all the way, a lead acid in recyclability and longer life , wider temps so safer than lead acid . I've only found importable sodium ion batteries and would love to see them tested .CanadianSolar has some new bifacial panels capable of 475 watts max. Not affiliated , just solar enthusiast and like Canadian built. less shipping and supports local R&D. Just as suggestions , I've been looking into this and new technology every year.
Imagine enjoying the nature, temporarily forgetting about technology and annoying city life then seeing Linus’ family pull up next to you with this gamer van.
Trent The Traveler did it way better too
couldnt be me
very trure lol
Imagine that, but also their own gaming minivan too for even more gaming for their gaming
This is an awesome comment
We are fulltime RVers with 2 gaming PCs. Recommend having adjustable vent ducts so they can push hot air outside in summer, and keep it inside for winter.
It was one of the first thing that have popped to mind... "the PC and the projector would make it hell in the summer"
@@tbard fr...I just ordered a HTPC case to modify in the basement. It will keep hot air away in summer, and warm the water tanks in winter
Yeah I thought that too, very surprised that Linus and Alex of all people didn't do that. Like sure it wouldn't be easy, but they have the resources.
@@Karol-cj9fy probably didnt want to cut up their van in case theyre gonna remove it later
@@D3nn1s with water cooling it would be not that hard. A custom inlay for a split opened window is all you need. Even if the window comes solid, there are replacement kits to buy.
Mom: Go play outside
Me and the boys:
1200 likes and no comments? Let me fix this.
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Thread locker or compression washers/tooth washers are absolutely needed in anything that is on the road. It's amazing how even some of the tightest bolts will loosen up over time due to vibration without thread lock.
The #1 thing I learned from building an electric longboard is that vibrations destroy _everything_
We used lock nuts on all of the hardware! -AC
@@LinusTechTipsI work for a mobile tire service that operates in the Vancouver area, specifically in sprinter vans outfitted with extra battery packs, and we had a couple packs get destroyed because even the nylock nuts backed off over time and the terminals melted out of the batteries.
I'd recommend a service interval to check the nuts over and avoid similar issues, just did my monthly check this morning!
Yup, lost a screw on my motorbike's luggage rack that way. It was torqued well but I ran out of loctite for one of the screws and sure enough after 2000kms it rattled out.
This is so true, i have a Fiesta ST with very stiff engine mounts and stiff shocks, the amount of bolts and nuts i lost because they came lose even at factory torque spec is insane
22:18 "Another word for small is, compact."
Short Boyfriend in the background: Nodding.
😂
That "free v-bucks" van would probably be a better kidnapper tactic than good old free candy
V-bucks and Robux xD
@@DasDaniel007gems brawls stars and stumble guys
Uh oh, you're now on a list 😳
Ahh, welcome to the interesting person club! I've been on it for years! (Search History from whenever I pause YT videos to see what things are/how they work, lol)
Hey there agent who got assigned to me, hope your day is going well! 😂
Don't forget the Robux
The guy in the background nodding eagerly in agreement with "another word for small is compact" while she just ignores them 😂
Hilarious haha. But that’s because she was not listening at all
😂😂😂😂😂😂
That's probably what she tells him every night 😂
Not one for commenting, but I appreciate the videographer asking questions, it makes it feel more real and less scripted
1:00 linus was so proud of that transition
In the military they deploy commercial electronics solutions in (like computers) in ruggedized boxes called transit cases. The computers are used as-is in the battlefield running inside their transit cases, like a little rack. That topic could make a good video: how the military uses transit cases to “ruggedize” conventional commercial hardware.
They also tend towards starting off using things like Toughbooks or Thinkpads or even those Dells that are simply called Rugged.
Working certain places, in particular pharma factories, we used to have everyone hand in their phones and electronic devices before could go near the plant. Those of us that needed to be contacted, got issued with what are termed 'EX' phones (ateX/ieceX) that are hardened in a different way.
You really do not want a regular phone around when a tanker of toluene is being emptied.
Emily starts working from 'home' starting next week 😂
I still miss his msi z690 "godlike" video. Anthony should definitely return to making videos again.
I too, feel like it's been a little long since we've had a proper tech video from them. Last one I watched in full was their laptop video. I prefer their 10-13 min videos and more of them.
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior You mean Emily?
Imagine a big battery bank and the upcoming amd strix point, lots of power anywhere.
Become a battery bank today
holy shit robbaz haven't seen that name in a long while
Hello my rizzler
Oh my robbaz !!!
Where are the videos Robert?
I really like that that projector allows you to just get your own streaming box. so many smart TVs don't have longevity in mind and it's nice to know at least ONE company cares.
You could replace the stick with another like a Roku or a Fire Stick, or perhaps a newer Google TV stick
This is why I love Linus Tech Tips
for the fun and crazy ideas man.
Ltt where jank meets that’s kinda awesome. Truer words have never been sproken.
No Just JANK
7:43 😂😂😂😂😂😂
"This is going to look sickdickilous, WAIT"
WILD
some harry potter 🔞remake type of spell
The way his face imediately drops😂
@@medvedsky69Wankardium libiosa
I use that projector almost everyday...
I bought it for camping, which it works great for that but I found that its great for projecting on my ceiling when I am going to bed. Love it.
Actually your car upgrade videos are the best on the channel. Love the great positive vibe and the cool DIY meet tech aspect.
14:42.. those two nails got me worried 😂
I work on a big box truck as a sewer mainline camera tech. We have a computer system built into the trucks that's just a rack mount setup, no shock absorbers or anything.
Our trucks are 10 & 14 years old, neither computer has ever had an issue (and both have mechanical hard drives), though we dont have GPUs to worry as they aren't gaming machines.
Yeah, big sloppy thing held only by poor pcie slot would complicate things...
I have heard differently too. A system in a truck that would need new hard drives every year and then when upgraded to an SSD ran perfectly for years.
Could it be that your cab has shock absorbers anyway?
Considering putting hard drives in a shopping cart and pushing them across a parking lot is enough to kill a significant amount of them I am very surprised that yours have lasted that long without any failures in a truck.
Are the computers running when the truck is in use? The hard drives should be fine if they're not being used in transit.
@@conorstewart2214 mechanical hard drives have the shocks you can get in a van very well inside the rated specification (for when they are off). They actually get more shock during deliveries when delivery operator throw boxes around.
I find this hard to believe as well. I've hard hard drives die after a move, just from riding in the trunk.
It's a good thing you didn't replace that entire electric system with that "Solar Generator" as the correction voice said you went from 400Ah (AMP HOURS) to 1,100Wh (WATT HOURS) and when you convert those batteries from Ah to Wh it's over 4 times the battery storage than the sponsors product. Yes it's a nice single package but misleading.
Yeah each of those lead acid batteries is about twice the capacity of the DJI one.
Honestly the 2.4kw output rating inside the small package is very impressive and the best thing of that power bank.
Otherwise a 100Ah battery with lead acid has a better price to performance ratio.
Are those batteries 12V? Like is that standard for these camper batteries? I actually dont know… thought it might be even higher in which case the Wh would of course go up even more
@@nils1953 unless you take into account cycle life of Lead Acid batteries
Admittedly your probably looking more like 2kwh for the lead acid as you usually only get half the capacity out, however still better than the DJI.
Yes 12V is standard with some being 24V systems by series two 12V
I got my mom a "17 1080p 144hz HDR600 portable monitor because of the limited space in our living room. It is single-handedly what convinced me to get an HDR monitor of my own. Totally killer display!!
HDR is a game changer. People sitting on their old monitors/TVs thinking things can’t be *that* much better nowadays have no clue, it makes games look so much less flat.
@@Jishkah just looked at the specs of my monitors and found out that while the main monitor doesn't support HDR, the other two, sub that I don't use often and portable one that I've only used like a few times, both support HDR lmao
That "What a save" privacy board is everything ive ever wanted
13:00 ah, yes. a pair of nails right near my legs - that's exactly what i've wanted
I noticed the same, you can see later in the video that theyre actually L-shaped hook things, so not as sharp, however I would still cap them with rubber
thats not a nail
@@rayking5157 and wtf is that?
I just bought a van to convert and have been trying to think of ways to mount and use my PC. This video is made for me, especially dealing with vibrations, thanks guys!
I should upgrade to an aio at some point, and the wrapping the cables is a great tip
Just get a laptop. You'll have enough headaches converting already. Worrying about something coming loose and breaking off inside your PC is the last thing you'd want.
Besides, it's hard to beat laptops on power efficiency, even though their thermals are awful.
@@overcunning I would but i currently run a few u.2 ssds and it's easier to manage local data on a PC than a laptop, and a nas isn't really an option
Also check out Trent the travelers van
I swear, those Transit vans are really good homes.
They're awesome, though they get quite warm during summer. (Not much insulation)
@@MustachioFurioso9134 you can always add insulation and an external AC :)
@zombl337og yeah! Most camper vans do! But that insulation only goes so far haha, I know for a fact lol (I live in an RV and used to in a travel van)
The external ACs are a life saver though! My current rig (Class A RV) has 13000 btu and 15000 btu AC and heat pump units. They are a life saver
That's a Sprinter tho?
READ THE PINNED COMMENT TO SEE THE CORRECTION MADE. MY ORIGINAL COMMENT BELOW:
24:26 Correction, it does not have a larger capacity. The old battery system they were looking at Ah (Amp hours) whereas the new system they were looking at Wh (Watt hours). When you convert the Ah system to Wh it has at least double the storage capacity of the sponsor product, and that's with only discharging those batteries to 50% (something considered good practice on AGM batteries). If you look at the full capacity the old system has ~4x the storage capacity of the sponsor product.
As a tech media company you should really be looking at the details for tech like this when doing sponsor segments. This is the same as if you were doing a wifi product sponsor segment and said megaBYTES vs megaBITS. Very misleading.
They don’t check shit these days
bump so they put a correction in
I think he actually means the output in Watts in this case. Not the battery capacity itself as he said "power capacity ". Which in fairness is not the best way to say that but it is correct.
@@thomasdesloovere4200 more like these years. I only watch for the mid entertainment, never watch LTT for facts
@@angryjoshi They'd have to issue multiple corrections, they referenced this multiple times during the video.
On the other hand I can't see them not doing it, it's a pretty big fuckup.
Finally, the Canadian dream of owning a house.
4:21 buddy was taken back 😂😂😂
The Rocket League themed privacy panel is **chef’s kiss**
Please stop saying "chef's kiss." Thanks.
@@Skrenja no
@@craftyplayz_ That reply, *Chef's Kiss*
@@Skrenja no
little john might be jealous about this set up
not enough galvanized square steel and eco friendly wood veneers
I cant resist "Thank you LTT for pimping my ride"
I’m edging to this comment
7:45 i spit out my 🍺
This is my dream, for real. Getting to go where I want, when I want, and do what I want (game lol) when I get there. Get to be in nature, wake up to the sunrise in a beautiful place, and play some red dead or halo after I drink my coffee. That’s peak life goals.
just make sure to avoid the powerstations. build your own system, way chaeper and more flexible, and can be repared.
just like computers, build it yourselve.
Victron has great inverters, that can do much more than most other inverters.
This has pimp my ride vibes, and I'm here for it
It’s a shame they don’t understand the significant difference in Ah to Wh…that lead acid pack with 400Ah would work out to 4,800Wh if they are 12V per battery and would be double that if they are 24V…
This is also directly charged to me
says on the side 200Ah2......probably read 200Ah24V. painful.
@@theonlyqwert It just says "200Ah/20HR" - they are 12V, but that's still 2x the capacity each.
Ah vs. Wh
Ah * V = Wh
400 Ah * 24 V = 9,600 Wh
DJI's 1,024 Wh vs. 9,600 Wh is a terrible tradeoff irrespective of the size.
@@MaXwellFalstein nope.
200ah 12v per battery, so that's 200ah 24v (or 400ah 12v). so 4800wh.
Buttt, its lead acid. DOD is about 50-60% for those so usable capacity is 2400-2880WH total.
No upgrade in kwh, but they did get an upgrade in lifespan and features.
Now make kid stealing van
agreed i need tutorial
REAL
fr
I mean it's already white
just write "free candy" on the side
Tutorial pls
I feel like a giant radiator that *could* vent heat into the cabin would be magical during the winter
3:17 lol my brain is fried i cant stop thinking of the un mentonable turible man when u say those 3 letters 😬
EDP 😂
I was looking for this comment
lol
I have a backwards compatibile PS3, PS5, Google TV, and computer setup inside my Rav4 Prime. Makes it fun on the go.
Wait, but how? That car is just an SUV, how do you have room for all those things? I've wanted to put a gaming setup in my SUV but didn't think it would work well due to the space constraints.
@@sirwoofiemaybe he took the back seat out
I'd like to see Alex and James from Garbage Time hang out for an afternoon
Truly one of the camper vans of all time
You guys are getting some just immaculate scans from that 3D scanner I'm jelly
Excited for your editor, but wow! As I run my channel that is majority based around van life and building, and those that actually follow a bunch of van life channels knows that Trent The Traveler probably has the best gamer van. I respect you had to do something for DJI so can't hate on that. Sadly our industry (van life) is now trendy the past few years and it's been ruined
Influencers suck man, car community has also deteriorated in the past years
Love your channel and agreed; No hate against this couple's van, but you can't title the video that this is the ultimate gamer camper van when Trent's van exists.
A gaming laptop in a combination with an external monitor + keyboard and mouse on a proper desk with a real chair is what I use at home. Desktops are ultimately the best but being someone who moves a lot, I traded the little bit of extra horsepower for mobility years ago. That said, his setup in his van is indeed the most practical.
The DJI battery is awesome - but it is repeatedly said they have more capacity than the 400ah battery bank and that is not true. The 400ah should have 4800Wh, with around 2400Wh usable. This is more than the claimed useable 2048Wh capacity of the dual DJI setup, which is probably closer to 1638Wh if the lithium 80% useable rule of thumb holds true for their batteries. I get that ad reads are ad reads, but this seems to be an actually false statement with the information provided.
Ah vs. Wh
Ah * V = Wh
400 Ah * 24 V = 9,600 Wh
DJI's 1,024 Wh vs. 9,600 Wh is a terrible tradeoff irrespective of the size.
@@MaXwellFalstein Pretty sure those batteries are 200Ah @ 12V each - so it would be 400Ah @ 12V or 200Ah @ 24V
@@APhoenixWithin They are 12V 200Ah batteries, they have two, so ya 4800Wh. Those are deep cycle batteries so they have much more than 50% usable capacity as well.
I am just curious why Jackery didn't pickup the sponsorship
@@Torbox1unfortunately that's Not how deep cycle AGM works. You probably can discharge them to 50% a few Dozen times, that's The benefit
Linus & Alex experiments will always be my favorite types of videos, the best part is when linus is stressing when alex has an idea 😂😂
He really is having too much fun with that EinScan and AvidCNC. His inner jank is being replaced (mostly) with solutions that are actually very good.
That base for the dual pc build, is superb.
13:10 - No, Linus, that's freekin' dangerous. Those brackets are going to go through someone's knee or thigh at some point. Plus that hinge is jank due to the wiggle. Needs to be both safer and more robust.
also, the whole table folds up in front of the projector screen, and with the table down they have to be in couch mode. There's no way for them to use the projector in bed mode. I think they used all their interior design powers on the PC table and had nothing left for the regular table
When I was a trucker, I had a full size PC tower in my bunk and even ran it while I was driving. No modifications were needed.
Bad time for a DJI sponsor
I was just watching Trent the Traveler and I'm thinking. Hmmm that man is just recently passing through Canada right now.
Colab?! A man could only dream.
I was watching this and ran to the comment section to say the same thing!
Who even is that guy
@@Stuka01210 he's a "Van Life" TH-camr that has a big gaming focus. He drives a Ram Promaster as well so I think that's why my head instantly went there. His content is really well done. However his main sponsor is ASUS, and correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think LTT and ASUS are really playing friendly at the moment.
This is the antithesis to pimp my car. Love it.
You should check out Trent The Traveler, good balance of van life and gaming.
Emily and I watch Trent all the time when we are on trips in the van haha
Linus: Daayum Lithium, you cool.
Me: Yes. Now please go mine some.
23:11 That is VAN-tastic 🤠
Uhm? 400Ah @ 12V is 4800 Wh - that's nearly 5 of those dinky battery stations...
Yes, but you can only use about half of the capacity from the lead acid batteries if you don't want to destroy them.
@bjiirn oh no, I can only use 1/2 of my 5x power. That means I'm only able to use 2x the power they "upgraded" to. Still a downgrade.
@randomguy1371 I never said, that the new Batteries are better, just that the 4800W are not usable. From the old batteries they can get about 2400Wh and from the new ones 2048Wh. So effectively they are about the same.
They made a correction in the comments
@@hariboproductions good to see that they're keeping on it.
i think it would have been more efficient to use a 12V PSU and hook it into a battery directly.
I have been looking for one of those power supply for many years. The only one greater then 250 watts currently out there are 70% effecent. I get better results using an seawolf 80PLUS couple with a Vitron pure sine wave inverter. The mini-pc 12v power supplies only go to about 250 watts max.
@@techwolflupindo thx
Luring kids in with RGB 😂
"Free RGB"
She was so happy 😁
Emily and her SO are living the dream.
Waiting for the ultimatum gamer yacht, gamer helicopter, gamer truck, gamer tank.
I mean, they have colins boat upgrade...
reminde me in about a year for the ultimate gamer/tech van. (20'000wh battery, fast charing using ev chargers, ...)
The UPS mode is great, really makes it a more tempting product.
It's a little bit of an unusual feature compared to their competitors. Faik ones like the Jackery's don't have it.
They would very quite overpriced to use just as a UPS for home/soho, but then then APC/Cyberpower types aren't (usually) suited for portable/mobile power.
Love to see the idea, regardless of how niche the actual use may be. That they can do very easy daisy-chaining is extremely cool, though I think they'd need more sockets to make in-roads into the sort of setups used by sound/video vans at live events etc.
Victron MultiPlus has UPS mode too, if anybody is interested in a proper system. Portable power stations are crap for anything serious. If I was tent camping, I'd love one.
@@nashdashflash I don't think Victron do portables yet, even APC don't seem to be in the market yet, which strikes me as a bit odd.
By portables, I mean the types like the DJI/Jackery's that have seen on channel, not some little phone charger, maybe need a new term like 'luggable'
@@benwu7980Sorry, to be clear... I don't think people should use portable power stations like this in a camping van with serious power needs. Full stop. They should build out a proper, built-in system.
9:45 That is a massive downgrade, if those batteries are 12v, that's close to 5000 watthours
Yep.
yep, I'm surprised that no one at LTT seems to have caught this.
Yeah surprised to see them mixing ah and wh. Even if lead acid only has about 50% usable capacity thats still more than the two new batteries combined, yet they are claiming three times the capacity...
And very inefficient to charge the DJI batteries off the 12v batteries through an inverter. Converting from dc to ac multiple times.
It's recommended to only get about 50% discharge of total capacity from lead acid, but even then it's still a big ooof.
Former sprinter mechanic, I’ve seen so many different configurations.
Just get laptops.. Linus said the solution immediately.
Yes that is a valid solution for most people but LTT are not most people. There is the simple and easy way and then there is the LTT way that is sometimes sketchy and jank but that is why I like the LTT way better.
guess who has a 19" rack in the camper for Computer, 3 node server cluster and networking 😅
That is the easy way out... Linus can't take the easy way out ever...
@@kanbak yes linus must flush practicality down the drain and instead give these poor kids gaming machines that only have 5 hours of battery life.
Would you watch a video of Linus giving two people a laptop each?
Probably not.
400 Ah for 12V = 4800 wh - 1024wh solar generator is a downgrade. For 2 PCs 1024 wh is not much for gaming, I have a 2048 wh one and can game on it about 2.5 hours.
edit: laptop would be better as they could bypass inefficiency of DC - AC - DC conversions and have DC - DC power. Not aware of any PC power supply that takes in DC power
There are DC-DC power supplies eg from HDPlex, or you could do an ATX-12VO build straight from the 12V battery system.
18:15 I'm getting really frustated with the inaccuracy of the information given by LTT. In the begining of the video 9:40 you can see that there are 2 200 Ah battery's, assuming they are 12V which is the minimum for a camper (they can also be 24V or higher). You can calculate the total capacity of the power system: 2 * 200 Ah * 12V = 4800 Wh (with lead acid not being able to discharge fully you get arround 4000 Wh). While the DJI power bank is only 1000 Wh. Linus mentions that the DJI has multiple times the capacity which is clearly not true. I can understand that when shooting this video this wasn't clear, but where is your pinned comment correcting this information like you guys promised in a video previous summer?? You have a whole engineering department and none of them can calculate the capacity of a battery bank?? This is false advertising and should be illegal. Please only watch these video's for entertainment and never accept buyer's advise from them.
Used to do tech work for law enforcement and the coolest project I did was installing multiple PC's, displays and full network into an old ambulance turned mobile command unit for a police department...something awesome about doing tech in a vehicle!
Toss in the stock 4060 lying around?
Yes
You should have put a couple laptops in there driving around with a computer on bumpy roads it's ridiculous
Short king stand up
What's the point of camping and seeing nature when you have a gamer rig in your camper 😂.
When Linus said "Emily" as he started opening the van door, I was excited then immediately let down. No offense to this Emily, I just thought we were finally getting the return of the legend.
same
I’m glad that the mics have stayed in phase over the last few months, no more ocd flair ups
Next, Linus should make the ultimate gaming School Bus. Put enough gaming computers for all the seats in the school bus.
…. My grandparents have an old decommissioned schoolbus on the back of their hunting property… used as lodging for the loggers during the winter….
I’m getting ideas for its new use. 🤣🤣🤣
23:57 hehe linus said underwear :D
Ha that is suspicious
So… this might just be me, but this seems like one of those situations where a laptop would be more than enough
Decent ryzen 7 laptop (6800u/h with usb 4 or 7/8840u/h with oculink) + some egpu and indeed it would be more than enough and consume around 130-250w per setup
or two NUC style PCs, could take up even less space than a laptop depending on the screens and where you put them.
Yeah but the video wouldn't be the same. It is still about content, plus I'm sure the sponsor appreciates the message of "you'll be able to game on a regular PC with this".
19:33 is see what you did there, Mr audio editor...
Very clean
You need to make it clear on the thumbnail when Alexi is helping with a build as they are often the best episodes.
4060 ti the 8GB variant... cmon LTT. 16GB variant was the minimum for this, games already struggle with 8gb vram buffers, specially at 1600p resolution
I love that Linus knows that laptop gaming is the best and easiest solution but refuses to do it.
Your Vanlife viewers appreciate this video
Imagine getting passed by a van where the guy in the passenger seat is sitting backwards and gaming.
So I know this is only based on what we get to see on TH-cam but Linus seems to really appreciate his employees, which is rare nowadays. If I had a boss like Linus I would feel extremely lucky.
I just put a gaming laptop in my RV and that's it. You really dont want a heater inside in the summertime.
It's a cool project and I see a lot of "gamer vans" setups with desktops on TH-cam but it just doesn't make ANY sense to build a desktop on a Van, regardless of how compact it is. The laptops nowadays are more than plenty powerful and also have some of the best screens in the market in a muuuuch more portable form factor(depending on the laptop you can even take to coffee shops and whatnot) and also save so much space and power on a limited source such as batteries, desktops on vans are just so pointless.
@@renanmarcondess there are still lots of reasons to use a computer instead of a laptop:
- Acustic: laptops are horrible loud under load
- "Easy" to power. if you dont want to use the inverter you can just build a computer with a DC atx psu. good look finding a 200w+ laptop psu that takes 12, 24 or 48v DC as input
- Expandability. adding even just 10gb/s networking to a laptop is stupid expensive (over 200$) for a pc ist about 20-40$ for a used nic from ebay.
1:21 Linus in full Dad mode, slowly being seduced by the idea of Camper trips
Well to be fair, he's already had the sandals+socks Dad combo for years 😅
I mean, he *did* do the whole "That's not going anywhere", thing.
I never comment on TH-cam but hearing our boy admit he was wrong was a breath of fresh air.
Stay humble Linus, I’ve been watching you grown since the water cooled house
It is so nice to have a little bit of home on wheels to take with you everywhere you go. That van and the upgrades look like my retirement plan.
the entirely unnecessary metal bracket hanging down under the table is going to cut people around it forever. good idea. also good idea with all that power consumption in a van with a tiny power source. i guess the whole setup is relying on constantly idling with the van for power and heat.
400ah at 12v is 4800 wh
READ THE PINNED COMMENT TO SEE THE CORRECTION MADE. MY ORIGINAL COMMENT BELOW:
18:04 Please make a comment about this being incorrect. The Ah vs Wh difference makes it so it only has about 1/4 the battery storage capacity of the bigger system. This is an example of the media not understanding the difference of small things like mb/s vs MB/s and then confusing consumers because of that misunderstanding.
something I have noticed about converting a van into a camper/ RV is: you have to make multiple TH-cam videos about it and you have to tell everyone you know about it.
I would not be telling anyone about this conversion, it is just terrible.
Following some tips from my brother turned into a decent win last month. Ever had a win that felt extra sweet because it came from a tip
Linus makes that camper look so spacious.
When you tell a gamer to touch grass.
The gamer:
"Game while touch grass"
-linus (i think)
I continue to wonder why, in every "installed in a car" video i've ever watched, everyone goes out of their way to turn a DC power source into an AC power source, only to have the Power Supply convert it back again?!?
10 years ago I installed an Xbox 360 into a rental van right off the battery (fused, of course) completely eliminating the power brick, and negating the need for an inverter!
Because they're not running an Xbox......there's power effiency, battery charging and a whole heap of other things that come into play when using DC in a vehicle. You can't just run any electronic device from your battery.....your battery alone wouldn't last even running the xbox by itself....you'd barely get decent gameplay out of it
@@TzDavid95 You very much missed the point here. It is running from a battery so by going DC>AC>DC is a massive waste of power. And yes you can pretty much use every device from a battery
@@Ben1551 You know a battery drains power right.....?
You know when charging a battery, the voltage increases, which causes issues with electronics.....or are you that simple?
@@Ben1551 You actually missed the whole story, not just the point
@@Ben1551 Go and run your computer of your DC battery, see how long it lasts 🤡
This is the best episode of Pimp My Ride I have EVER seen!
man... LTT takes custom builds to a whole other level
Emily's SO is the definition of a Short King!
I believe she is significantly over 6 ft, he might be close to average height, not that it matters
@@dtemp132 Yeha it doesnt matter, but goddamn he's our short king!
He is not that short. Anthony is around the same range as Linus himself.