Prior to Being - Nisargadatta Maharaj
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- "When the body is over, everything vanishes. The "I am" concept disappears.The observer and the observed disappear and the NOTHING will make sense."
Nisargadatta Maharaj.
Extracts from the film: Rays of the Absolute (the Legacy of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj) prepared with Stephen Wolinsky. To view the full length film go here: • Rays of the Absolute (...
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He had the most piercing look I've ever seen, it grabbed my attention the first time I ever saw a picture of him. This is wonderful, thanks for posting it.
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I recommend Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj's book "I AM THAT" to any and all.
It's a modern spiritual masterpiece.
Fear Foe yeah I'm reading it currently and it's really insightful '' I AM ''
that is an awesome and probably only one book you might ever need, yes i have read it
Fear Foe I would also Recommend Ramana Maharishi Teachings in his own words. They both have a connection to the real sense
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Audiobook of 'I am that', and Maharaj's others talks which made for 'Prior to Consciousness', 'Final talks of Maharaj', his autobiography written by himself 'Self Knowledge and Realization' can be found on this channel which pretty popular. Ramana Maharshi's 'Self Enquiry', Teaching in his own words. David Godman, Robert Adams, Krishnamurti just a few names here
Fear Foe IRONICALLY THE BOOK TEACHES YOU NOTHING. YOU CAN'T EXPERIENCE NON - EXPERIENCE.
Nisargadatta never attracted me. But I truly believe him to be enlightened. My Guru is Sri Ramana Maharshi. I personally think my personal attitude can be very similar to Nisargadatta, argumentative and harsh at times. I imagine that's why I was drawn to Ramana instead. 😂
Both are same. Same consciousness
Ramana Maharshi, Nissargadatta and Siddharameshwar (his guru) were saying the very same exact things in their own way - each perfectly correct!
Osho, too; the Buddha too, the Dali Lama, Chuang Tzu, Huey Neng, the Zenists, etc. - all the very same thing in their own way. And they understood and knew it too.
No Ramana , no nisar, no anyone. All the same consciousness. The universe is dreaming . And playing a role on this avatar called human
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That's 100% that it's all the same ✨Consciousness✨, yet it's not the same perception/mental/emotional capacities, all of which are inadvertently created by the mind-body organism's personal experience/intellect/memory/conditioning that creates the entire apparency of any kind of "individual-ness".
And, the avatar tag? It's been seriously bastardized by the Hollywood movie [albeit a very good flick!].
Hang in there and keep on keepin' on...!
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Yeah since you were the one to provide them with it.
Jai Jai Nisargadatta forever ... my guru - thank you for showing me grace.
"Im not a woman , im not a man.
Neither the saint nor a god.
Im not the body, im not the mind.
Im not the person of any kind.
Neither the self, nor the soul.
But much, much deeper than the black hole.
Im nothing. I am nothing , but i am everything.
Because everything is nothing and nothing is everything."
"Form is emptiness, emptiness is form."
@@findmestudios yes, true.
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@@findmestudiosCan we ever be able to trace Anhad Naad through modern scientific equipment and use it as an unlimited source of energy?
If it can be traced by a human body which is ultimately a biological machine why not some scientific equipment?
Everything is nothing, and nothing is everything .💖, to know that you are everything is lOVE, and that I am nothing (or nothing is really mine) is WISDOM and in between the two our life oscillates.😇
3:20 I like it .. nahitar ja khaddyat... You can't force anyone... Just say what you know and leave upto them whether to experience it or not.
Your expectation of something unique and dramatic, of some wonderful explosion, is merely hindering and delaying your Self Realization. You are not to expect an explosion, for the explosion has already happened - at the moment when you were born, when you realized yourself as Being-Knowing-Feeling. There is only one mistake you are making: you take the inner for the outer and the outer for the inner. What is in you, you take to be outside you and what is outside, you take to be in you. The mind and feelings are external, but you take them to be intimate. You believe the world to be objective, while it is entirely a projection of your psyche. That is the basic confusion and no new explosion will set it right! You have to think yourself out of it. There is no other way. - Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
Silence IS peace.Silence IS bliss and YET SILENCE IS (YOU )THE (REAL )SELF.Sri Ramana Maharshi.SILENCE IS!THE TRUE GURU.THE REALITY.THE REAL I ME YOU AND EVERYTHING.4
FOR SILENCE STANDS AS A BILLAR AND A SUPPORT 2 TO EVERYTHING OR NO THING.
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Thank you man thank you where did you read this please give me the source
@@jatinveer5273From the book 'I am that' by nisargadatta maharaj.
Nameste, absolutely a once in a lifetime gem of a man. Unfortunately, I was too young to have read about the teachings and his books. Looking at his piercing and intense eyes, you can sense he was the real deal, a Guru's Guru. Really am grateful for his teachings and wisdom, which has been a great source of support and strength along my spiritual journey. Thank you, Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, Shanti! Shanti! Shanti!
Some people calling him aggressive . His body language and speaking style is very common and usual for general Indian people, especially people from his generation . And also marathi language sounds more powerful and strong than hindi language.
A gyaani cannot be identified from his looks and behaviour. He/she may look like most common people. In india many siddhas have lived like beggars and ate with dogs. This kind of gyanis are called unmattavat siddhas. Many of India's ancient siddhas are even known for their arrogant and aggressive behaviour. Outer behaviour is based on the upbringing and social/cultural programing. Never judge a gyani from his outer appearance.
Radical acceptance; so radical you 'accept that you don't accept'. This covers all experience. This is pure Love, which is what we all are, as ONE.
Thank you
Há 35 anos ocorria o Mahasamadhi de Nisargadatta Maharaj, finalmente o ciclo se fechou, os cinco elementos retornaram a sua origem e a consciência se fundiu com a Consciência Absoluta e agora, mesmo depois destes anos nada mudou, aquele que deseja, de todo coração, encontrar nas mensagens deixadas por Maharaj a sua própria origem, com toda certeza a encontrará porque mesmo não estando em sua forma física existe um poder em seus ensinamentos que o faz reconhecer o falso como falso e então só resta o verdadeiro.
"Eu não sou uma mulher, eu não sou um homem
Nem sou um santo nem um deus
Eu não sou o corpo, eu não sou a mente
Eu não sou uma pessoa de forma alguma
Nem o eu nem a alma
Mas muito, muito mais profundo que o Buraco Negro
Eu não sou nada, eu não sou nada, mas eu sou tudo
Porque tudo é nada e nada é tudo."
Obrigado.
Very good ,Sathya Sai Baba said " out of emptiness ,everything appears "
Existence cannot be conceptualized because it is prior to thought. If existence cannot be conceptualized it is not an object. If not object, then not subject to time . When man sees that man is an idea, peace on Earth. For if no thought, identify the enemy.
Existence is the Subject, St Francis is reported to have said, "what you seek is where you are looking from.".
Sathya Sai Baba says "you are Existence itself."...nothing to find, just something to recognise.
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I dont remember i was born, i dont remember my babyhood, everything starts with thinking began so who was i before thinking began? Thats freedom🎉
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This is advaita Vedanta
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"Fluids come together and 'The I am' appears." Az appears. "When the body is over, everything vanishes. The 'I am' concept disappears. The observer and the observed disappear and the NOTHING will make sense." You are Nobody. And you are Everything. At the same time. Love.
TRUELY a God this MAN so pure.
I wouldn't matter if he was not pure. Purity is just conceptual.
Be careful. Do not misunderstand the Master. He does not want you to “abide in the Self”. He wants you to go beyond the Self. There’s a difference. Most modern self proclaimed Non Dual Spiritualists tell you the first. Sri Nisargadatta explicitly tells you the latter.
once you make it to abide in the self, it is already out of your hands- there is no you left to go beyond.
Wonderful ! Like always , rich , illuminating & enlightening !
I'm laughing and crying at the same time. This is fantastic in every way - in your face, intensely meaningful with no threat whatsoever!
God bless Nissargadatta!
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Strange are the universal laws but how consistent they all are in similarity, across the board. You are nothing , so you are everything- compare that to "When you give away all , you get all" Giving has never made anyone poor in entire mankind's history. Retaining things for one self has indeed turned millions into paupers and admitted into hospitals finally. All saints say "Give, Give Give" and how close to that is this earlier theory of "When you are nothing, you are everything" ! Adding it all , it does make sense now to me.
haha at the end Maharaj says in Marathi while you have consciousness find out who you are,..
else go fall into some ditch !
Jaee khadyyat
Oh, thank you so much for letting us know! Of course he would say the perfect thing at the perfect time.
oh I love knowing that, thank you!
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I will try and parse something he said to help people digest it in perhaps a clearer way.
When he spoke that consciousness has no prior being or no being, what he means is this: there was no you as a fixed self carried as something prior to what you are now *and* that there was no you added to what you are now. In a sense, this means there is no reincarnation - this is how you can be a prior being as an entity - and also that the monotheistic views are false, for in there is where you can only had something added to the body as a separate self. What this would mean, in scientific terms, is your consciousness is nearly a wave in the ocean of reality, to be emergent phenomena, with no surfer, no soul, no self, no ego, either carried between the waves or added and taken away from them.
Nothing will make sense only when one has a glimpse of no-thing, which is to say no state of divisions and disconnections we make conceptually. This is what fuels the illusions of dualism, after all. By looking at the cosmos as things, we begin to conceptualize the story of "me", and in turn, fuel the story of "not-me". Is this not how we become scared of death, too? The me will vanish into the not-me, and this is only bad because the "me" somehow exists separate from it until death. It was never separate, for it is only a story, a symbolism. It's like saying you are a rock, but are only smoke. You think you are fixed and static, yet you flow and change, even as you read these words.
This is what may also be meant by the concept known as "the unborn". This doesn't mean an eternal soul, but when we think of life and death, we think of addition and subtraction; something *added* to reality, and something *taken* away by death. Yet matter itself cannot be created or destroyed, and only ever changed. Death is merely the cessation of form and process, not the taking away of substance from reality. In death, other patterns of life emerge. Can we really then say there is something subtracted, something taken away from the 'sum' of the cosmos? Even with the expansion of the universe, the Conservation of Mass theory is still true. Yet, do we realize this when they think of death?
ShakinJamacian thank you for this. I needed to read this.
ShakinJamacian : Thanks man for decrypting / translating .
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Excellent! Thanks👏👏👏.
Reincarnation happens
Boss if there is no birth and death of a being then what is the use of discrimination between beings why some people born with disabilities and why some shine having no problem at all.. there is something which causes suffering for one and non suffering for one
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thank you so much for posting this!
Namaskaram Guru 🙏🙏🙏
Amazing something i can relate to completely !
In Carlos Castaneda's books, Don jaun was a brujo and his mission to Castaneda was to reveal the 'Nagual'. The Nagual is what has been described in this video. It is that part of ourselves that is wild, free and beyond the natural. I see it like the Spirit in us but there can be no nouns to describe this so it will always remain out of reach for those that require order and the organisation of language. I guess it like a self that exists at a quantum level of reality and its cave is the orderly every day world. The Nagual is the power behind the wheel for it allows a person to have strength in life and carry out their limited ambitions, this is why it has been associated with shamanism or magical practices. The Nagual is the big Spirit part of ourselves that remains always hidden.
The reason for its hiding is to do with what is called the 'Tonal'., the Tonal is everything that would be considered real, it is our illusion of the physical world. The tonal is our thoughts and ideas that have formed our our reality. Many millions of beings/lives adding to the hologram of what we perceive as our individual world. We are born into order where we are trained in the natural perceptual way to form agreement and consensus. We all see 'tulips' and only a few see alien things that have no description.
Perception and memory are the abilities of this world that help it make sense., when the body and the world we know fades out there is no-longer an anchor to keep our memories, our identity in order. Our human identity, our mind, our furniture that makes up consciousness fades leaving only awareness of the Nagual, that no-thing that can be every-thing while being nothing every where and at the same time nowhere, with or with out time.
Very nice!
the part of us that is wild? Nissargadatta never talks of any wild part of us. that belongs to Castaneadas books of black magic.
Try to read beyond your preconception. It is not the "wild" you are thinking of and it isn't "black magic".
Spangley Rainbows , I recommend you to read the book " I Am That" ,Which is from an enlightened Master, not from any anthropologist.
absolute amazing man. 🙏🏻
Thank you
I have a question "Can we ever be able to trace Anhad Naad through modern scientific equipment and use it as an unlimited source of energy?
If it can be traced by a human body which is ultimately a biological machine why not some scientific equipment?"
It may already have been determined or ascertained or captured in labs by scientists.; but ordinary mortals will not be told! Kabir did speak abt anhad naad in his dohas.
Heavy and light at the same time.
Thank you sir 🙏
If you too want to know what is the state of Maharaj. Here is a tip. You try to Understand what is this sense of "I" in you, which is why you feel yourself an individual being in the world. Is this sense "I" not based of all mental suffering. Is this sense "I" is not illusionary and created due to conditioning by which individual body-mind organism start thinking itself as individual one who is having a body and certain experiences in its living environment. Try to sense your beingness (in silence) without bring your body and its experience into picture.
Amazing to hear that
this is my grumpy old man favourite, see what you think, he was renowned for throwing people out of his house if he did not like what you say.
if he did not like what u said? or if he thought u were wasting yours, his and others time by a fruitless stay?
good question.
wasn't really meant as a question. Nisargadatta would throw people out who couldn't follow what was being said, or who had outstayed their welcome and would linger for weeks, just for the sake of being near an enlightened person. he was not interested in followers.
Appreciating him is a cheap substitute of listening to him.
awesome ! love it
The paradox is existence cannot be conceptualized because it is prior to thought. If existence cannot be conceptualized, it is not an object. If not object, then not subject to time.
When man sees that man is an idea, peace on Earth. For if no thought, no enemy.
How do you know that you are? Only by the experience of phenomenon. And to experience some 'thing' what is necessary? You have to be there first, got yo bee PRIOR Prior to the object field. Just the opposite of 'standing out.; What you are is the background, not the in the foreground.
He spoke of the seed. The seed is no thing yet all that is before it sprouts creating mind, then space (form), then time. This seed state is awareness experiencing itself only. There is no mind there, no you, no me, no time, no space, no emotion, no joy, and no love even. It just is. It is true that you are that, but it is also true that you are this. Everyone’s striving for something they don’t understand, and can only experience through being completely annihilated and merging into. Should ask yourself why you created a world and took on a form in the first place. It’s not a mistake for the ego to correct. Be happy you are alive, know yourself… Be grateful that’s there’s anything at all. God plays games, and these games will go on for eternity. He (you) has nothing else to do, and plays in form because he loves it, he loves himself so he takes form to play and explore. Why else?
This is your understanding of the absolute
But now the Mandela Effect has proved that the absolute do have perceptible plans (example: anatomy changes)
Amazing ty
it is actually zen❤
Samsara is Nirvana. Form is emptiness and emptiness is form.
priceless
Džaj,džaj,Guru!
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but why is he so violent when he talks? why would he say go fall in some ditch? i don't understand how often the ego is allowed to show itself.. is that his ego?
He is nuts if you ask me. Still gonna read his book but i´m pritty sure by the time of this interview he doesn´t give a single f*** about anything nor anyone.
Hahahahahahahaha! I recommend Sadguru/Inner Engineering.
he is not violent 😅
that's how some old people in india sound like. my grandfather has the same accent and when people who don't know him see him talking, they think my grandfather is a violent person but in reality he is not.
Personality can be anything brother....it has nothing to do with realisation or "I" dissolution. Since where "I" dissolves, there's already no "I". And personality or "I" could be anything according to the upbringing and the whole journey of life whatever has moulded the "I".
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Question, at 0:36 Maharaj says "you can only watch the events happen, you can't use consciousness to do or undo anything". At 2:52 he says "if this body and this sense of I am are going to vanish, why not use them while you have them". If "you" can't do anything how is it possible to "use" them? Any thoughts on this?
Don't think with the mind, let events happen. If you think you can't do anything, eventually dissatisfaction will build up anyway, the life force will find a means to express itself. Ultimately things happen by themselves. It may seem contradictory to the mind. But effort and resignation are part of the play. I think this is why Maharaj emphasized earnestness, and a yearning for truth.
Maharaj Is using words here to relay a concept to the listener for the purpose of understanding through thought (mind), I am only trying to understand in that same capacity. I don't think he is trying to communicate to us with the intent to not use the mind to understand what is being said or as you are suggesting "Don't think with the mind, let events happen".
If i said i get this guy, I'm was lying
You are not a person inhabiting a body, you are the substrate, you existence/Brahman everything takes place in you. Investigate the I that doesn’t get it.
@@kumulsfan8090 There are many errors to this type of thinking. Modern spirituality is mix of truth, half truth and falsehoods. I'm now looking at Thomas Aquinas th-cam.com/play/PL_kd4Kgq4tP8e1BBGrC-eFlp86fqyvGex.html
Jack Darby “thinking” this is where you’re wrong. In order to gain enlightenment one must drop of thinking/concepts
@@kumulsfan8090 Say that when you're thirsty.
@@kunalkher1729 The same thing happened to ramana, he lost all needs for his body, he nearly died but someone came along and had to teach him how to be a human
You should listen Acharya Prashant. He is living Nisargadatta.
disagree...he has got something kind of..but not the same thing..may be those are his bad real life experiences and the way to respond to life.
he is arrogant and tries to act like a genius.
Wah
The dude lost me at black holes 😂😁😂 this is some interstellar shit lol. wait I am just digesting Jaggi Vasudev and Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's grand exposition on Higgs Boson the god particle. such mind farts
That means after death of this body and mind the energy within us doesn't have any identify? Or there is no energy at all apart from body and mind.....there nothing remains after death?
Im unsure as to whether we are the awarness of consiousness or something beyond that or is it being 'something' the problem. Rather confusing
I rad I am 20 years ago
It’s still working
What is the song name at the beginning?
I wonder why he always sounds and looks angry. I dont understand their local language, please if anyone can shed some light. Namaskaram
What were we before we were born? no name, no I , we have to return to that to be free of the delusion that we are someone.
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Well, there is a question what he really said in his short shouting exclamations and what the "translators" largely added to their likings ... Looking at him talking, there is that deep inner peace and profound noble energy of an "enlightened" person quite missing somehow.
you mean he does not come off as noble and peaceful? I do think he seems angry
He said when you die you’re dead so use this consciousness while you have it, and everyone listening heard some form of eternalism. 🤦🏽♂️
मी आहे हे अंतिम सत्य आहे, पण मी काय आहे हे सांगता येत नाही
Geezer !
Guys sadguru is a businessman nisargadutta is a guru. Please understand
No need to compare..🙏
Too deep for beginners; too simple for intellectuals. ACIM is my path but all paths to truth are the same. At times I devour one as I am lead. They are not competing. Only we do that.
The more u read, the more u follow others the far u get away from u.
Is not that nothing the I? Not ego or any self concept or so but the I, awareness. This is the nothing/everything/black hole that is refered here? Awareness itself. So I never dies. But the body-mind seems to die. But Death also does not exist.
Black hole ? In which dialogue Maharaj talk about it ? Page ? Books ?
The man said it was a CONVERSATION they had. There probably is no proof that he ever even said it. Happy now?
Deep into the labyrinth of the suspended mind, in the immanent advaitic self, beyond the language and its hefty symbols, a placeless yet pleasant void, where only the profound Apophatic theologia flows out of the hermetic paradoxical love... blissfully negating the very existence of the subjective individual who is seemingly experiencing all these... Where the individual mind becomes fully conscious of its divine non-existence and happily drowns itself into the causeless no-thingness of the absolute; out of which the infinite existence projects eternally. Contrary to what the 'waking mind' tries hard to justify, rationality is in essence nothing but irrational intuitions, only externally covered in fancy costumes. In other words, 'reason' seems fine and dandy, but is ultimately fake and unreal.
Hahahahahah----what he said! (Actually, Konnektive, a very profound summary. Thank you.)
you have to start somewhere and reason is the only tool you have. 'fake and unreal' is not the ultimate but a fraction before the realization that ultimately there is no reason
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@@d1427 Could not say it better myself. 100% agree with that.
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Prior to "I Am" ...Who Am I....??
No thing.
0 is consciousness, 1 is objectivized consciousness, an object, a thing. the cosmos is a 0101110010010001000.... consciousness matrix.
01111111100000...... (Everything) is equal to (Blanker than Black Hole - Nothing)..........
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0= ya
1= yaya
010101101010 = yayayayayayayaya
First BlackHole was spotted in 1964 and not 1980.
Someone explain
Here is the thing .... once you are observing a void which is between two nothingnesses .. it is you there
Between them and non of them .because you can go by your attention another place in a thought speed ...now who are you ? No not that ... wait a life time to make sure you are that ...
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There's no such thing as black holes, really.
Any credits for the opening music track, or link to where I can find the same?
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Is this the beedie baba Osho spoke of?
Yes
@@srinivasanjayakumar8931which discourse?
There are only two genders: male, female and nothing.
I think Nisargadatta disliked himself very much, because he rarely if ever spoke about that which is most real: his personal experience. To hide this, he created an alibi, the utterly abstract idea of consciousness.
Well you completely missed the point didn't you and in that sense Nisargadatta is probably the ultimate guru. You might be best sticking with a low-level, soft talking, good looking, well-behaved teacher who tells you exactly what you want to hear.
Or the other way around. The man is dead now - we can take an unbiased look at his teachings. Self-contempt - as consistently practiced by Nisargadatta - is not the road to happiness and self-realization, you know. Quite the opposite.
What do you want, 'happiness' or self-realisation ??
You should take a look at "I Am That". Maharaj was not self-contemptuous, but he did disregard his own personality, which he regarded as mere conditioning, something accidental and not conducive to actual happiness. Maharaj was trying to point people to states of being deeper and more fulfilling than the personality.
There is nothing wrong with our personality - it serves as our tool to interact with the world and thus recognize our limited beliefs and opinions. People who obsessively disregard their personality tend to be driven by unresolved feelings of guilt and shame. In all likelihood, Nisargadatta's personal agenda was to hide and run away from those sentiments.
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