While growing up I took a good hard look at my parent's relationship and said no thanks. I married the opposite of my father. Best decision I ever made.
@@Mehmet_Fateh Only in certain circumstances. If a man was emotionally volatile and abusive? Good luck proving that. No fault divorce is a new inception, which means that even if a crime cant be proven, they can still divorce.
@Mehmet_Fateh even if it is legal, what is a woman with a bunch of kids, no education, no money, under the threats of losing their home and kids, going to do? Legal doesn't mean it's doable. Men creates a system where women stay stuck for men's benefits
@Mehmet_Fateh even if it is legal, what is a woman with a bunch of kids, no education, no money, under the threats of losing their home and kids, going to do? Legal doesn't mean it's doable. Men created a system where women stay stuck for men's benefits
@Mehmet_Fateh even if it is legal, what is a woman with a bunch of kids, no education, no money, under the threats of losing their home and kids, going to do? Legal doesn't mean it's doable. Men creates a system where women stay stuck for men's benefits
This reminds me of a thing I read where someone said something like "What men don't realize is that most of the they aren't competing with other men, but rather with a woman's own comfort with being alone." There's plently of lonely romantic women who'd love to have a boyfriend, but not at the cost of their own peace of mind.
On the other side of this, but that's a great line to use. "Why would I have a romantic relationship with you when I have a better chance of being healthy and happy staying single?" I'm a young man, but I always knew I would never get married ever since I was a kid. I've seen plenty of people in my life get divorced, get cheated on, be abused, and end up viciously neglected. There's no positives to outweigh the negatives
@TheJamesGamel I think it's definitely a valid boundary and wish for independence to have, however my advice (as someone with divorced parents and that divorce involving an affair though not being the sole reason for finality) is to learn from the negativity you see rather than assuming it'll happen to you point blank. A *good* marriage takes a lot of commitment and good communication, and a lot of people don't know how to do that, or can't be bothered to learn. I would really recommend a book called "Hold Me Tight: 7 Conversations For A Lifetime Of Love", it's written by psychologist and focuses on the emotional angle of relationships and finding emotional support and safety in them. Totally respect if you still don't want to get married, but it's very eye-opening on how to solve relationship problems before they reach the point of something like cheating, as well as how to ammend bonds that have become very frayed.
they act so surprised because it wasnt them their grandmothers were telling "dont ever get married, finish your studies" it was US. i vividly remember all of the older women around me tell me to not get married and pursue an education, the common denominator between all of them was abusive husbands and shitty marriages.
So you just surrounded yourself with shitty people. Both of my grandparents had doctorates in teaching and loved their marriage. My grandmother was a housewife until my grandfather set enough aside for her to go to graduate school. You have no argument.
@@Hitsugix just, whatever you do, don't point out that you have a better quality of life. That is how people get written out of Wills reeeeal quick. 😅
@@music0coolmy husbands Korean grandmother before she passed had a whole bank account and businesses that her husband (my husbands grandfather) NEVER knew about. I wish I could’ve gotten to know her more because she was so smart.
A lot of men just want a partner who loves them for who they are, who don’t lie and manipulate, who STAY FAITHFUL and do what they said they’d do in a timely manner. Oh and mandatory genetic testing at the birth of children, there’s literally no reason NOT to have that and it will help be a first step for men have real reproductive freedom.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvusthis is just like signing a prenup. You say you do it because you wanna be fair and logical but the truth is there is a lack of trust. Family shouldn’t be like this. It’s not a business partnership
@@Yupyupyup32 The faithful have nothing to fear and the unfaithful have to use arguments like yours to abuse people’s good will. It’s actually why I think it should be a default standard so neither parties feelings are harmed. Can’t be mad at anyone if it’s just the way things are, right? I also support taking the stigma away from and standardizing for marriage the use of prenups for the same reason, it stopped being about love when the heavily bias towards female state got involved.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus ah so you dont even know me and suggest that i am unfaithful eh? yes clearly youre a straight thinking well adjusted rational individual not carrying any baggage and making objective statements. if you need a test to tell you your woman is unfaithful, there is a problem to begin with. the moment my man asks for a paternity test, i know that the marriage is completely baseless and there is nothing to go on, and i will bid farewell. i come from a family where my parents were cold and objective, and ive seen the damage it does to relationships. if you dont have good intuition about women, go develop it. instead of always wondering when your woman will cheat. and the kids maybe yours, but she may have slept with other men with adequate protection, so unless you have a test for that (except for your gut) you are doomed, cos youll always be wondering if your woman is faithful. what a great marriage that would be. also instead of asking for a prenup, why not ask for law changes where you cant steal peoples money just cos theyre an ex? thats a good default justice right. a prenup is basically you talking about ending a marriage before it even starts. if a man is excited about the divorce more than the marriage that is a huge red flag
My grandmother bore ten children and would get beaten with a cast iron skillet by my grandfather. My mother was the only one of the ten who graduated from college. She came home on a break and caught my grandfather in one of the beatings and literally stood in his face, forbidding him to ever hurt my grandmother again. He threw her against the wall a few times but she kept getting up and in his face until he finally stopped. He never beat his wife again. Men are just mad that today's women are made of stronger stuff and won't let men get away with their abusive shit anymore.
Glad you're mom stood her ground! My father used to be very abusive until he tried me years ago when I was 26 when I knuckled up and fought him back (btw, were both combat vets)! Never touched me or my siblings again!
That sounds horrible, and that should never have had to happen, I'm disgusted sometimes by how men treated women in those days. But I speak for myself when I say the reason I'M mad is because I'm constantly accused of being an oppressor when I'm just a normal guy. And I'm tired of being called a bigot when I speak up for myself or try to fight for my OWN rights. I also think feminism has brainwashed women into thinking that being a woman is lesser and that they should be more like men, and be independent. The reality is we need each other, so we shouldn't strive for independence from one another. We're not equals. So we shouldn't be treated like we are. Women ARE NOT LESSER. THEY ARE JUST DIFFERENT THAN MEN. We serve different roles and are better together. Like yin and yang.
It's because we work. When you have access to resources you have the power the leave bad situations. In previous generations, women just had to accept whatever was done to them because they didn't have the power to walk away.
@@karolinasoblinskyte1795Not really. Women *do* have lower caloric needs than men, on average, because women are smaller than men, on average, and have less lean muscle, on average.
This guy is basically a woman so he can't exactly speak for men. A man gets angry, a man looks at porn, a man bottles things up. But, a man also is independent. He does the things you don't want to. He gets angry because he bottles things up to remain strong for others. He goes to get a drink because he needs a bit of time with none of the weight of every burden he's taken. He looks at porn because he'd prefer to be having sex with you, but you make it so complicated with your own insecurities and by constantly rejecting us because of your own insecurities. As men, we are not allowed to reject you, or be insecure ourselves. Yet you want us to do even more, and have nothing to keep ourselves sane except your shining light. It's a little one sided and narcissistic, don't you think? This guy, is not a man. This guy has no balls, and is nothing like the man you would want. Instead of showing your man these stupid videos, try talking to them without whining at them. This is an example of whining. Phrasing things as if you are already on a higher horse without considering there's two human beings in the conversation.
and plus the way they were raised, that's just how everybody behaved and there was next to nothing they could do. God, I'm so glad I wasn't born into those families.. As a woman, my life would have probably been hell.
As a man, I vowed never to be like my father, who never parented, he only worked, and treated my mother like crap for wanting more emotional engagement than that. Yeah - women should absolutely desire more than that, if men are arguing they should be allowed to do less than the bare minimum than they deserve what happens next.
@@The_NutritionChefBy definition, that quite literally does make a woman a feminist. We should not be distancing ourselves from that word and its actual intent.
Also, women have been forced to do so much and expect no validation for it, but so many of *those* men will do the dishes once and expect a parade. That's what we mean by equality in our relationships: no hypocrisy, no double standards, just fair and balanced.
Man this made me laugh so hard, I know men, not a man, MEN! Who have broken their backs working their entire lives for kids they were told were theirs but weren't with out so much as a nod of acknowledgement let alone appreciation from anyone. Their reward after all that sacrifice, a small one bedroom apartment for them to die in that they can barely afford because, divorce, alimony, kids you've poured your heart and soul into that now hate your guts because they stay with their mother and her side of the story is the only one they will ever hear, plus she can just drop the "his not your dad anyway" cherry on top. But hey women just have it sooooooooo tough man.
@@alanoppel7485 there are literally men who annihilate their entire families when they find a new woman but sure that's worse. That just proves my point because the relationship that you're talking about is definitely not equal or even healthy.
@@CrystalLia231 come now "annihilate" those are few and far between yet as much as 30% of men who are told they are the father ....aren't, what you're saying and what I'm saying are no where near the same. But hey only women are victims man bad shit only counts when it happens to them right?!
I say this as a woman: I don’t care if the dishes get done, either. But if dishes in the sink bothers someone that I love? Then I care about the dishes. This isn’t just a romantic partnership thing, either. I had to learn this as a daughter, because dishes in the sink don’t bother me, but they do bother my mother, who lives with me.
Thanks for posting this like soo many ppl forget that the way you treat your spouse or partner is almost the same with other loved ones eg. Siblings , parents etc . Like ppl love to apply it in relationships, start now apply it now be respectful , understanding, emotionally intelligent etc practice it now it helps . Just like you I live with my mother and 6 siblings ( I'm the oldest ) and before seeing how much it affected her I didn't really care but now that's one of the first things I do when I go down to the kitchen.
Also, at some point someone has to care if the dishes get done if you want to...have dishes to eat off of again and not have an ecosystem growing in your sink. And if it's always the same person caring and doing something about it, we have an issue. Like, when I hear something like that, I hear "I've never lived alone and learnt to take care of myself because someone else always did it for me"
Cuz the dude begrudgingly took her out of the fwb zone because she grew a backbone one day and the dude thought free sex with commitment is still free sex. Like he did her a favour by making her his gf. Men think theyre actually choosing us lmfao all because pick mes glorify men and their non existing commitment (commitment isnt a thing unless theres investment like financial investment)
My father died two years ago and even though my mom cared for him until the end, she has to admit that now, for the first time in her life, she can live the way she wants, eat what and when she wants, dress the way she likes it etc etc. During her marriage absolutely everything went the way he wanted it, and she couldn't leave because she would have left with nothing. No man will ever cross her door steps again, and I do understand why. These days I have a couple of young male friends, all extremely frustrated singles, but if you talk to them, neither of them sees women as an equal human being, or even likes and respects them. Unfortunately they aren't aware of that.
Even throughout social media and online we see many female movement and empowering messages and support nd all. There’s still a huge neglect in many of the rest of society’s teaching, parents that haven’t moved on or didn’ want to.. I really hate it when ppl assume it, but misogyny really is still a huge problem throughout many cities, towns and countries.
So many men out there that are looking for a zero cost pet plus sexual object plus complaining machine to clean up after them. My apologies but that sure sounds a lot like a form of subtle slavery.
the irony is that if he actually just gave her hugs without anything else, he would likely get a greenlight for that anything else a hell of a lot more often than he gets at the moment
THIS! a classmate of mine in high school was acting just like this when we were having group discussions about what is an ideal partner. I just started listing the usual stuff you know like "loyal, supportive, honest" and all of a sudden this guy interrupts me with "OH SO YOU JUST WANT A LOYAL DOG THEN!??" Like, Jesus if he thinks this is asking for too much then what does he think being in a relationship is about??
I remember when my mom got her first credit card in her name. It was 1980 and I was almost 5 years old. Two years later she was able to leave my father who was abusive to all of us. A few years later she met my stepdad and I really saw what a healthy relationship looked like.
Them: Women in the past didn't expect as much and were happy with what they had. Men in the past: *mysteriously dying after drinking their morning coffee that their wife made them*
@@Gerbilomonous what? he just went out for cigarettes and didn't come back. i don't know why he left me all the bank account info before he left though, that was just a weird coincidence
Men have different expectations from women than they did 80 years ago. My grandfather was perfectly happy with my grandmother taking care of the house and kids and men now want women to take care of the house and kids but also work outside the home to contribute to the finances. Women have to do all the stuff they did in generations past PLUS earn an income.
I know no men who WANT their wives working outside the home. Me and several of my friends who are married make serious sacrifices to ensure that our wives can be stay at home moms and all of us contribute to household chores and childcare on top of being the providers. I even make sure my wife gets free time away from the kids. I haven't had a night off that I picked in over a year and a half. I know a lot of guys who are the same. Some who aren't, but more that are the same as me. Yet everywhere I look it's the same men ain't shit and men are big child attitude. It sucks. I'm a man. Why are people spending so much time hating on me. My friends are men. My brother is a man. We mostly do everything right, why are we hated so much.
@@abstracttechnician2750Yeah sorry just because you and your friends work to have stay at home wives doesn’t mean the whole world is that way. If you do some research you can see half of couples in the U.S both work and that number is still growing. Nobody hates you individually. If what people are saying about men doesn’t apply to you then it shouldn’t offend you.
@@abstracttechnician2750 Sorry, there’s many good people and it seems like you’re one of them but there are also just as many bad and abusive men and women alike. If anything, I like the call the abusive men “boys” to differentiate. These comments aren’t always directed to you but more often directed to the boys.
@@katq832we all give credit to the truly good men such as yourself who treat their partners right. We hate on and make fun of the little boys in giant bodies to put them in the corner with a dunce cap where they belong! Keep being a good dude! Be the light in the world that is not.
@@abstracttechnician2750respect you and your friends, but I literally had a call with one of my guy friends (in his 30s) who was talking about a potential partner and one of her flaws was that she wanted to be a “TRAD wife” I was like, what’s that’? 😂 he said a traditional stay at home mom and I was like “oh! I didn’t know that was a red flag now a days” 😅
If you want a traditional marriage, you need to make traditional marriage money. You cannot both be working but only expecting her to do the chores. If you want a traditional wife that stays home, raises the kids, does chores AND has dinner ready for you then you gotta have the wallet to back that life style up. So either pay up or shut up and do the laundry.
Exactly! And it goes both ways if your a woman who wants a high earning man when you don't wanna work you gotta stay home do chores and have dinner ready. I completely agree
@@Bacon2000.honestly, I agree. with how the economy is flowing. There’s a lot of women who would be perfectly ok with being housewives, but it’s not an excuse for them to be treated less than equals in relationships. I’d be alright as a housewife, but my mother always told me to secure my own income. It’s easier to maintain independence and protect yourself from being financially controlled if you have a job of your own.
@@Bacon2000.Why do you assume automatically assume that a woman's career is less valuable than a man's? Plenty of high or even moderate earning couples both work and just split up home responsibilities or have part or full time help if they need it,including using a daycare center or nanny if they have children.
This has some truth in it, sadly. But nonetheless I do feel this is helpful even to hear that a man gets it ... and...maybe he will help other men get it.. I wonder what percentage of his followers are men?
They also realized that not only “women can do anything the men can” but it also meant “men can do anything a woman can”. If a woman can have empathy, provide for her children, bond, cook, clean, and juggle all that bullshit WHILE having a job then so can a man.
yeah that phrase is childish and for good reason....we tell it to kids for motivation. believe it and you could get hurt or end up in a job you can't do. it's good to dream but reality will wake you up.
@@johnsmith-de3tl Despite your words, I still believe in you. I believe it's in your capacity to develop empathy, emotional maturity, and good house skills, even if you keep telling yourself that you can't do it. Don't let your past hold you back. You can yet be a light in other people's lives.
@@Epsiloncat i hope you manage to lose this spite and resentment thats been put on you by society and find someone that you can respect enough to not cheat on them....this time. ;)
This question feels like it can be answered the same way as "Why is the divorce rate higher than it was for our grandparents?" Because women today know they can escape if their relationship turns abusive or just simply isn't fair or fulfilling. Whereas our grandmothers were forced to stay for a variety of reasons (social shame, lack of financial and educational freedom, couldn't even open a bank account without a man's permission, etc), so they put up with a whole lot of crap that we just don't have to anymore. Thanks for pointing out how basic these "high expectations" really are.
Ok but why is the divorce rate higher for lesbian couples than heterosexual couples and lower for gay couples? It's almost like w*men are the problem and are always financially incentivized to initiate divorce. Men will continue to not get married, avoid women in every setting possible, and you can continue shrieking into your pillow that you have to work and don't have an indentured servant. Hahahahahaha.
Yeah, and women are no longer told by their priests and doctors, and community members that they just need to be patient with the abuse and or with what they don't really want. My mother was told by her priest she needed to stay in the relationship because she made a promise to God. As if God isn't in the business of forgiveness if someone makes a mistake in their partner choice.
" Because women today know they can escape if their relationship turns abusive or just simply isn't fair or fulfilling. " < yeah... or simply because they got giga chads attention and throw everything away for a little kick. Sorry to destroy your ilussions, but women nowadays are in no means any better than men are. There are very bad examples on every side. And regarding our grandparents : Out of my view its not the missing opportunity of walking away... its that they worked through things and set up the right priorities. Nowadays people tend to run after everything, except the one thing that counts fighting for : Love.
@@schuylergeery-zink1923 "Doctor, i told him over and over again: Stop eating the rat poison. But he always said 'What would a woman know about rat poson?' Truly a shame"
I work/have worked, with a lot of older women. These are women who (mostly, there was one who divorced) were with their husbands until the husbands passed away. Every single one of them has told me they worked liked dogs to keep their men happy and comfortable for almost zero appreciation. And even in their lates 60s and mid 70s, they are loving the heck out of single life. Says a lot about those old school marriages people keep trying to glorify.
You’re only seeing the broke ones. My mom is sitting on more than $5 million because she was willing to sacrifice her career to raise me and my brothers. The most successful women are not found in the workplace
@@capitalist4life As a woman, I wouldn't call myself a "successful woman" if I have raised a son like you. I would be devastated if my son make a comment like you did💀
Everybody I know who worked with older people told me about older men who always tell them about the one woman that got away. So yes, there often is zero appreciation for their wives.
I have seen my father doing house chores, helping my mother around in the kitchen (he was an excellent cook, btw) and was always emotionally available. He has set a standard for me and while looking for a partner, I will never lower it. :) P.S.: I miss him so much everyday. I wish he was still alive. ❤
Same tho , my father always helped my mom , I saw him doing almost every household chore in my house , but they never argued about that that's a healthy relationship
You had a good dad! One thing I'd love for us to all stop doing, though, is calling it 'helping mom/ wife/ woman in the house' because it still frames it as her work, he's just helping. My husband does not help me clean and do chores, he does his share. All men need to understand that housework is their too.
I watched my parents, and I saw a team. They both worked, but my dad worked less due to some health issues that came up when I was you, that plagued him the rest of his life. But, he still did the best he could. And he always helped around the house, doing whatever needed to be done. I was closer to my dad than my older brother. He taught me so much, and set a great example for me. Somehow, my brother never got the message.
My dad was basically the stay at home parent my whole life while my mom worked. My dad hated it tho bc he felt he should be a provider with my mom rather than her being the only one working. My dad did all the things other kids’ mom’s usually did like for example driving me around to school and friend’s houses. He cooks and cleans. So it was a bit backward for me growing up which I’m grateful for experiencing Ofc my dad still had anger issues so me and my sibling would still go to our mom for our emotional needs but aside from that the traditional gender roles were basically swapped in my household. My dad didn’t like being the stay at home parent my whole childhood, (he was laid off from work and he couldn’t get another job so this was his role for a long time) but he still got the job done regardless I’m now almost 20 and he only recently managed to get a job again and he’s much happier. And he still cooks and cleans a lot at home, my mom never cooks, I’d be a bit confused tbh if I ever saw her cooking
Thank you for educating men and women, boys and girls, of all age groups! You are helping people more than you'll ever know 😊. It's never too late to change, learn and find peace and happiness. This is awesome!
I just had a argument with my husband a few hours ago about this. I sat him down and told laid it all out. For 6 years I've been trying to get our autistic daughter a medical evaluation so she can get services. I 've been getting the run around for SIX YEARS. 2 months ago I gave him the sign up infor for a new clinic that is only 30min away and asked him to do it. He never did. So the fight was about his constant procrasitnation and at the end of it he came back wtih "I don't know what you want" I replied "YOU DO! you know you just don't want to do it. I want you to say "Sorry I forgot I will do it now." He just sat there silent. He finally stood up and said "okay well it's sat. remind me on Monday and I'll do it then" omg if I had been holding something I probably would have chucked it at his head. instead I replied "NO. YOU GO. GET YOUR PHONE! and YOU remind YOURSELF!"
You know him than any of us possibly could, but autism is often patrilineal and as someone with AuDHD it's practically impossible to remember schedules, appointments, etc and--here's the kicker--reminders aren't that useful for a lot of us. I mean, they are, but those of us with moderate to high support needs need to be _sat down and given the reminder._ I won't remember to add something to the calendar. I won't remember to set an alarm. It's legitimately a disability of time blindness. I'm not saying he has this, I'm saying since autism is a potential factor, it's worth looking into. But even if he is, what that then means is that he needs to learn communication habits to better work with you in making sure his blind spots are covered. You're still not obligated to be his mommy
@@NieroshaiTheSable I want to add to this, if there is any suspicion that the husband has autism or anything of the like then he should be(come) aware of that. From personal experience; if you point out that you think someone may have a thing and they don't start looking into it for themselves, then be ready to wait another 6 years for anything to change. In which case I'd more recommend breaking up. Because admitting there may be a thing is step 1, and when they finally do that after years and years of denial and behaving like a stubborn teen then they have to actually make a phone call and plan an appointment to get tested... another prime chance for procrastination and after all that there's the wait lists. In case they get diagnose with something, probably more waitlists for any kind of treatment/help! And it's all for nothing if they then decide "I am diagnosed, this is just who I am, I'm now going to use it as an excuse for bad behaviors and never make an effort to improve myself". In my experience the fast majority of people with autism and/or adhd are lovely and very willing to work on themselves + work with their environment. It's just that.. if he's this bad with getting his daughter treatment and it's been going on for _6 years_ .. I fear you might have a bad apple. Maybe. Or he improves once he stops the denial, potentially. Or he doesn't have anything that can be diagnosed, which is also great to know. Because then you know his shitty actions are caused by his disinterest and you should get away from him 😅
That got tears into my eyes . As a women who is attracted to KIND and kind men ONLY, I sometimes catch myself thinking : "Am I asking for too much?should I content myself with the rare affection I get?"
I've heard it said that straight women are the best proof that sexuality isn't a choice... it's sad how true that is sometimes. Hugs and bugs sister. Hope you find a good partner some day❤
A man literally said to me, "Women who are too strong like you are the reason all the Western men are going to 3rd world countries to find wives!" Yep, because they know beggars can't be choosers. I wish financial independence to my sisters around the globe- we all should feel empowered to walk away from imbalanced relationships.
What if he's right? If you ask most American women do you need men. They will always say "absolutely not." If you ask the same question anywhere else in the world, they will say "Of course." We are social creatures. We absolutely need others, and that's not a weakness the way women in the US think it is. I need the women in my life. Women are wonderful. Let go of the anger and disdain, and you'll find life gets better :)
Yep the women in those countries are in survival mode or come from suppressed female slave type culture. The men who go there are the ones who couldn’t be a healthy enough man with anything solid to offer back home and blames it on women having actual standards now, but those men call healthy standards ‘bad attitude’ and ‘entitlement’ lol.
Some women are still more than happy with their traditionally masculine men. To be honest it's getting harder and harder to find them with testosterone levels being at their all time lowest in all of human history.
@@JeffSlapper Interesting comment, Mr. Slapper. Might your woman (if there is a real one) be into S/M? Because THAT is surely representative of MOST women.
Anyone else putting this on repeat cause it's so awesome to listen to and learn from? 😁 I am so grateful for this video! Thank you so much for posting it!
Because we legally couldn't walk away, buy our own houses and get our own credit. Once we could do that and live on our own, game changer. We never wanted to put up with the garbage from before, we HAD to in order to eat and sleep indoors.
This guy is basically a woman so he can't exactly speak for men. A man gets angry, a man looks at porn, a man bottles things up. But, a man also is independent. He does the things you don't want to. He gets angry because he bottles things up to remain strong for others. He goes to get a drink because he needs a bit of time with none of the weight of every burden he's taken. He looks at porn because he'd prefer to be having sex with you, but you make it so complicated with your own insecurities and by constantly rejecting us because of your own insecurities. As men, we are not allowed to reject you, or be insecure ourselves. Yet you want us to do even more, and have nothing to keep ourselves sane except your shining light. It's a little one sided and narcissistic, don't you think? This guy, is not a man. This guy has no balls, and is nothing like the man you would want. Instead of showing your man these stupid videos, try talking to them without whining at them. This is an example of whining. Phrasing things as if you are already on a higher horse without considering there's two human beings in the conversation.
@@Ladivina74 I was genuinely laughing hysterically when I read that! Dude! No one mentioned "wemen" cheating in the first place!😂😂😂 the unintentional humour is gold!
@@Ladivina74 No, they don't. Not all women cheat, and not all men cheat. But the ones who complain on the internet that there are no good women and modern women are horrible DEFINITELY cheat. They don't think it's wrong for them to cheat, because Kevin Samuels and Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson all told them women have no value as people and are interchangeable dumpsters and should be treated as such.
**1900s end** some dudes: wait. i cant do wtfever i want and treat women like shit because they don't depend on me for survival anymore? what do you mean accountability, respect, and partnership? WTF ARE THESE EXPECTATIONS!?
Can I just say… thank you? Thank you for validating all these “trivial” concerns of women - the other short, “people aren’t responsible for how we feel”… just thanks, for not labeling our needs as unrealistic 😢❤
@@patbenz4327 I said thank you to an influencer for making women’s need feel understood and validated and you likened that to “he’s my hero”? I pointed out a reel that explains people ARE capable of making us feel certain emotions, and you say “women act like innocent doves”? I’m just wondering where are you in your own love life where you would be disrespectful to a woman you don’t know and talk poorly about women in general? I’m sorry that you think so negatively of women, that we just walk around acting like we do no harm, when all that was said is “thanks for making me feel heard”. lol 😂
I once talked about my expectations (basically most of what is in this short) in a relationship at a family gathering. My uncle exclaimed "You're expecting perfection!" and my aunt answered him "Her expectations are in Hell, they can't get any lower..."
@@carlopicanco2555 Actually they do, they're the kind of people who can argue very intensely and make up the next day or within the next hour, no resentment or nothin'
@@lawrencerutherford4260bitch I’m a woman and I’m always invited to boys night. literally none of their girlfriends have said ANYTHING about boys night
Women always wanted these things but they couldn't leave crappy partners because they couldn't have a mortgage or a bank account without a male cosigner. If you were able to leave a horrible "partner" by using your own checking account to pay your own mortgage... thank a feminist.
100% It's only been 50 years since women could get a credit card. My mother was still in highschool when that law changed. So it's only been 2 generations since then.
1969 - introduction of no fault divorce 1974 - women gained the ability to own a credit card in their own name It's not that they expect more, it's that they have another choice now. Men weren't more free, women were less free.
Men were less free they couldnt vote but were sent to war while women stayed home. women could spend all their husbands money too without getting any debt. Now women own most debt in the usa after getting the right to own credit cards 😂😂
BUT BUT Men have it harder cos they are all oil rig workers and electricians and and they built the INFRASTRUCTURE of this society and women have easy jobs like teaching and nursing if women or mens went extingt in the stone age the alone men would have built a UTOPIA but the women would still be in caves doing the ooga booga by now. so women should like men no mater what because if it werenr for men this society would not exist and clearly all men had an equal role in building our society and should be trieated like the KINGS they are!!!!
I used to work in long term care (high end nursing home), and more often than not when husbands would die the widows would be completely lost. Then, after a few weeks the other widows would join up and live their best lives. Women who had been with their husbands in the community for 20+ years and who were meek and silent would suddenly be ordering out, cackling with such joy, and just full of vibrant confidence a few weeks or months after being widowed. Men, on the other hand, did not fair well when their wives passed. Most would stop eating, everything irritated them, and they'd drink excessively. All the suicides at the community involved either recently widowed men or men who were diagnosed with a terminal illness. Men did not thrive without women and women thrived without men. Keep that in mind when idealizing the "good ol' days." The nursing homes and long term care communities eventually show the true nature of so many lifelong relationships we tend to idealize.
“She wants me to value her opinion and respect her boundaries but I’m to lazy to actually put in any work to make our relationship better by becoming a better person who values her opinion and respects her boundaries”
@@johnsmith-de3tlomg!!! i’m sooo sorry that u think a woman getting her needs met is egotistical!! lol it seems to be all abt u ig….. it’s literally a hypothetical and the fact ur getting mad enough to comment says a lot abt how ur love life goes ❤
@@sophiastein2953 well, thats a ball of smug petty resentment. a dose of gas, some sophistry and the classic belittling. you do this alot dont you, even to your "friends" when they're not around.
Here's the thing: My mother's and grandmother's generation wanted that stuff too. They didn't ask because they knew it would fall on deaf ears. When men proved they can AND do listen, is when women became more vocal!
Yes! The only reason people are aware of it now is because women are no longer basically their husband’s possession, and actually have a say. Me and my female friends were talking about how being born a guy would make life easier, and my male friend genuinely asked what the advantages were. As a serious question.
Respectfully, women stood up even when men proved they don’t listen! Feminism didn’t come because of a change in attitude with men (clearly, as most men today still don’t get it). People in your mother/ grandmother’s generation stood up and fought against the grain
yeah, sadly i don't think men proved they can listen. I think those women just fought ahrd enough for their own rights that we now HAVE rights for our generation. so now we AHVE options, we can work and make our own money, and we don't HAVE to put up with men's shit anymore. women are still shouting about what they want from the rooftops, and men still aren't listening. the difference is that we're not literally trapped with them anymore. so now we can just say "ok, you don't wanna listen, cool, i'm out" and leave. and they can't do shit about it, because we're not their property anymore. the women that came before us would be glad to see that their hard work and their fighting paid off, and that women actually have a choice now, when they didn't. i think they'd be really glad to know that their granddaughters and great granddaughters won't ever have to be trapped in a loveless marriage if they don't want to be
Sad that this feels new to people. My grandpa treated my grandma with mutual respect, understanding and shared responsibility back in the '40s. He always taught us that this is how you treat people you love. 💕 And mutual affection isn't some new feminist thing. You can find it in lovers' voices in the book of psalms. We always have and always will have the choice to love others more than we love our own wants.
Awww. My granny and my grandpa were like this, too. They had a beautiful relationship until he pased. Live was never easy for them but they were happier than the most couples I know, because they treated each other with love and respect.
Women had no freedoms, choices, respect, love, fidelity or human dignity in those old-timey marriages. Men went to work and lived the rest of their lives like single men and women made the best of a bad situation. Women were miserable and literally no man cared, because men didn't have to care.
@@frontdeskstaff9359 I bet Grandpa did things to earn that respect instead of expecting to be given respect simply for existing the way modern men do now.
"we can't even like half naked photos of models on Instagram" Hey if she is the type that posts those pics then those complaints aren't even valid But if she doesn't post those, then it's absolutely valid. Don't ask for a partner to have more integrity and trustworthiness than you're willing to have 🤷🏾♂️.
Heh, my boyfriend just broke up with me because he tried to convince me that he never said he could find better. I just uno reversed him comment and told him I could do the same. Now I’m the bad guy for returning the same energy. He never cared to listen to me but I had to listen to him. Asked him to delete his text history with his ex that was current and he was flirting with her a month before we got together but I’m wrong for considering that a red flag. Bro literally jumped from her to me and had told me he loved me on the 3rd week then tried forcing himself to live with me and just assumed I’d pay all the bills besides the rent with him like that’s a win…. Goodbye sir 👋
Yes, unfortunately. It would be better, though, if more of us all could improve in our ability to see, communicate, discuss, adapt, accept, and make decisions on more realistic expectations.
I'm highly suspicious that being asexual runs in the family. Specifically with the women. It would biologically make sense. Since for centuries it didn't really matter if women had physical attraction. It wasn't ever her choice whether she got to have kids or not. So long as she wasn't barren that was happening either way. I can trace it back to three generations. My cousin is also Ace and so am I.
@@woodykusaki9970 You talk like your heart really is broken and I'm sorry about that. But your comment can also be offending the women out there who really work on themselves, on communication, authenticity, trust, faithfulness and their place as a good partner. Plus, the same can be said about men. And I'm sure you wouldn't like to hear that about you after all you did to be a good person and a good man. It's not about "no women, no disappointment" or "no men, no disappointment". It's more about "no broken, immature or inadequate partner, no disappointment", I guess.
These men are very real and I know a lot of people who think like them. One of them I meant to call “dad”, whatever that is (and he isn’t the only one I know).
They do exist. Just think about a guy would only cares for himself, that’s this example. The problem here is that he chooses the WORST man to represent all men and then acts like these are the ONLY expectations women have for men. It’s intellectually dishonest.
What if women stopped organizing households, quit caring for children, looked at porn and just worked and came home and never made dinner and just played video games?
Dont forget that "back in the day" household chores were shared, there were just more outside ones that the men did. They wouldnt be expected to do dishes becaude they hauled the water and chopped the wood to make the fire to heat the water to do the dishes...and butchered the animal that the wife turned into sausage, and raised the flax the wife spun into linen for them to wear...there have always been jerks, but by and large you can only be so mean to someone on whom your *survival* depends before you realize teamwork is smarter. Dont let these dudes give you any nonesense about men not having to contribute back in the day!!!
especially where more and more couples are starting to live in apartments where there are no outside chores to be done besides vehicle maintenance and up keep. i would genuinely love to do the upkeep of a living space if i was doing it with a partner.
So true. Also this whole weird narrative of women didn't work back in the day. Excuse me, women worked in farms, did fishing, didn't trading in marketplaces. It's hilarious to see this argument, because even now in rural areas you'd see women working in farms etc.
Historically men sat around and did nothing. Especially the white men. They didn’t create anything. They had POC and women do all of the work. It is the same today.
Isn't it interesting how society was able to outsource all these "men's chores" to machines and economy, but the domestic chores still need to be done by physical work. Tysm patriarchy.
Yeah but now a lot dont have these chores and still dont do anything inside the house. If someone was doing all that work out there i would be fine doing the work inside.
nah cuz its even worse at school i saw a girl ask her "boyfriend" from some of his water and he said "wow you really want everything from me dont you?"
Yes, respect, love and common ground is the basis of a good marriage, a lovely friend of mine told me once. If a man doesn't respect his wife, it's simply better to leave. Why bother & waste time ... ? He is not going to change.
As I watched it set in how painfully accurate this is. One thing I have noticed is men who want to be better partners to women DO a lot of things for the woman - They fix her car. They buy her gifts. They open doors. Those are all great things and the effort is great! I just think men aren't taught to have awareness of the emotional part. For example buying her dinner is great but if you don't look her in the eyes and engage in meaningful conversation with her during that dinner then you won't have a deep relationship. Fixing her car is great but if you don't listen to her and try to take her perspective when she voices a concern in the relationship then you're falling short as a partner. Men need more awareness of how to actually have a relationship, not JUST how to do nice things for someone.
While that's true, I wonder if they are just following the old rule: actions speak louder than words. They could certainly improve their interpersonal skills, but at least they are trying. The alone is an improvement over traditional marriages.
Shoot, that sounds amazing. Just throw a monthly date night in there, kindness, traditional values, and believe in God. I’d call that a winner. And no, he doesn’t need to be 6 feet tall and make 6 figures. That stuff is ridiculous.
@@margaritasatmidnight3134 "actions speak louder than words" but speaking is, in itself, an action. Words are not worthless, in fact they hold a lot of weight. You need actions and words.
The only things that are ACTUALLY bullshit expectations are the 6/6/6 and expectation of vulnerability without the "baggage" that comes with it. And there IS a difference between emotional vulnerability and trauma dumping that most people on both ends just don't understand. Do note that if you ask "what's wrong" and then react poorly to honesty and openness, you lose all rights to complain about it.
YES!! And if we stop speaking up that upward climb we arduously trudged can have us rolling backwards fast! This isn’t the first time women have spoken out after being suppressed-it was just the most successful!
I watched my mom get abused my entire childhood because she accepted a "traditional marriage" and therefore was entirely dependant on my father. It was horrible to witness and so hard to live through, when we were also underage and dependant, and now of course none of us ever want to be in a position where we can't leave if things get bad. And a lot of people make it sound like you're just running away at the slightest problem, but my father was violent and dangerous and it's probably just dumb luck that we're not all dead thanks to some of the stunts he pulled. So yeah, being able to escape in situations like that matters
So many sad guys in here saying that what women really want is 6 feet, 6 figures and a 6 pack. Guys, stop watching the manosphere channels and just grow up into a whole adult person.
@@billcipher8645 In the past, I used to take it as I had to be submissive to my partner. That is also a recipe for abuse. So, I just want to make things clear for anyone that comes across it.
But I do want a guy who is in shape and funny . because I’M in shape and funny! Why is it wrong for women to have desires that match our lifestyle. Men are upset we are starting to do the same things they’ve always done 😅. Have expectations and desires. Women have a right to be picky. Just like men have been. Take a note from us women. Start improving yourselves now or end up alone 😅. Women had the leg up on self improvement. Men need to stop blaming women and start working on themselves. Start working on those abs 😅
This guy is basically a woman so he can't exactly speak for men. A man gets angry, a man looks at porn, a man bottles things up. But, a man also is independent. He does the things you don't want to. He gets angry because he bottles things up to remain strong for others. He goes to get a drink because he needs a bit of time with none of the weight of every burden he's taken. He looks at porn because he'd prefer to be having sex with you, but you make it so complicated with your own insecurities and by constantly rejecting us because of your own insecurities. As men, we are not allowed to reject you, or be insecure ourselves. Yet you want us to do even more, and have nothing to keep ourselves sane except your shining light. It's a little one sided and narcissistic, don't you think? This guy, is not a man. This guy has no balls, and is nothing like the man you would want. Instead of showing your man these stupid videos, try talking to them without whining at them. This is an example of whining. Phrasing things as if you are already on a higher horse without considering there's two human beings in the conversation.
1. Bare Minimum levels of intimacy and connection. 2. Equality & Shared Responsibility around mutual chores 3. Not to be overlooked or Neglected 4. Partner with integrity that they can trust 5.Mutual Respect 6.Affection 🩷
Here's my non-negotiable. I don't take marriage advice from known philanderers like "Jimmy." Most of these guys getting thrown under the bus in divorce court aren't spineless cheaters dude.... Of course he would prioritize emotional validation over reality, the entire basis of his relationship is predicated upon her emotional convenience. Why is it that channels like this never get the Thanos snap? We get it TH-cam, women are always above criticism.
I had a teacher explain to the class that, “men look at women all the time it’s perfectly fine”. He went on a rant to explain that it’s okay for guys to look at other women because that’s the “natural order of things” and when someone proposed what if a girl looks he said, “women don’t look because when they seek a mate then stay with that mate. And that’s why they get mad when men look” It was too much incorrect and unnecessary information for a 10:00 am history class.
"Women don't look" 😂😂😂 bwahahaha! Of course we look! And not to cheat, just to look. What? 😂😂😂 Delulu fella, what an idiot, he prob don't know his wife is looking, too, because he is too busy looking himself. Humans be thinking "men are visual creatures" like women don't have eyes, and as if in the rest of the animal kingdom it wasn't the males who pretty up to impress the gals. I'm honestly sorry we've been forced to settle for some mediocre dudes (and I'm not saying it cause I'm superficial, but because women really be out here wearing their best colors and some mofos you can't even get to wash their hands after pissing, I mean, c'mon!).
When I was in couples counseling before I divorced my husband, the therapist said that men "don't even see the dirt" in a poorly maintained home, so they can't be expected to always know when to help clean it. I gave her the finger and him his walking papers and never looked back.
@@ShadowSkyX In some cases, like this example of therapeutic malpractice, the bird can be the most eloquent response. If a guy were a firefighter, sharing a house with a bunch of other firefighters, all responsible for the upkeep and safety of their station - if he told his fire chief that he just can't see the dirt so he can't be expected to clean? He'd be on his ass in the street so fast it would make his head spin.
@@POIUYTREWQ62with that bias set in mind, it makes sense doctors tend to overlook/ignore/minimize their female patients symptom and diagnosis in comparison to their male patients. Good contribution in keeping that trend alive 😂
I think you're very mistaken. People don't even listen to men. If that were the case, a lot of the stuff that has been said these past couple of years or even decades would have stuck. People are just tuning each other out because it's not what they want to hear
The thing is, that shit wasn’t ok. It did piss women off, they just didn’t have the legal right to leave. The world has favored men so much to the point that when women get a step up, it’s suddenly seen as “too much” like no, we’re just on the same level as you.
I would also like to talk about how working was traditionally a man thing and household labour was traditionally a woman thing. In this day and age, when a woman works, it's the bare minimum, but when a man does the household chores, he's praised and seen as a king, even though... it's also the bare minimum. The bare minimum for being a functioning adult.
A continuing undercurrent is the magical "I did this all the time before I was married" pipeline. Yes, sir, I don't doubt you could do it before you entered a committed relationship. Remind me again how long has it been since you last had to do it. Before you could buy collars that didn't need to be starched?
Women have ALWAYS worked throughout history. The past was not like the idealised 1950's where the man worked and the woman stayed home. For all of human history women have worked.
@@fireandsugar2625 Yes exactly. Even when I bring up the fact that "who tf was running the society while men are at war" point, *some* men still don't listen.
Actually the "traditional" thing was both men and women equally worked to survive and keep their family alive. Society was more socialist (at least among the middle classes/peer groups) and communities supported each other. Both men and women helped with chores and doing work for trade or (eventually) money to get things that they couldn't get or make themselves from others. The time period when men went out to work and women stayed home was just a blip in our timeline as humans. It's weird that that is called "traditional."
@@janiefkthey do that to make us fight amongst ourselves and cause more divide. The comment above saying that women working are accomplishing the bare minimum are really out of touch with the workplace environment because that's not true at all.
My bestfriend broke up with her 4 years bf because his mom thought she was "the type that won't do chores and hires nanny" and that she won't help him at the store (her ex bf owns a grocery store). My friend has a comfortable job, how dare they expected her to leave and start unpaid fulltime work at home *and* at the store 😂
@@jeremyeblack4987 hold on, the fuck? You're actually disagreeing with this? Are you kidding me?? Do you have any idea how many women I listen to?? Think about what I wrote.
News flash, it was never ok to act that way. Women just never had the legal rights to do anything about it.
While growing up I took a good hard look at my parent's relationship and said no thanks. I married the opposite of my father. Best decision I ever made.
@@Mehmet_Fateh Only in certain circumstances. If a man was emotionally volatile and abusive? Good luck proving that. No fault divorce is a new inception, which means that even if a crime cant be proven, they can still divorce.
@Mehmet_Fateh even if it is legal, what is a woman with a bunch of kids, no education, no money, under the threats of losing their home and kids, going to do? Legal doesn't mean it's doable. Men creates a system where women stay stuck for men's benefits
@Mehmet_Fateh even if it is legal, what is a woman with a bunch of kids, no education, no money, under the threats of losing their home and kids, going to do? Legal doesn't mean it's doable. Men created a system where women stay stuck for men's benefits
@Mehmet_Fateh even if it is legal, what is a woman with a bunch of kids, no education, no money, under the threats of losing their home and kids, going to do? Legal doesn't mean it's doable. Men creates a system where women stay stuck for men's benefits
The bar seems higher because women dragged it out of hell.
And the men were kicking and screaming the entire way 😂
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Demons hate standards it makes them feel short.
With our gd teeth lmfao
we dragged ourselves out of hell. Men want to stay there because for them it is heaven.
“when you’re used to privilege, equality feels like oppression”
Tell that to Jews who literally see women getting WORSHIPPED in the west
I wish I could like this 1000 times!!
Amen!!
Damn, I love that quote! Well said!
This phrase applies to the feminists. Lol
This reminds me of a thing I read where someone said something like "What men don't realize is that most of the they aren't competing with other men, but rather with a woman's own comfort with being alone."
There's plently of lonely romantic women who'd love to have a boyfriend, but not at the cost of their own peace of mind.
You are on point!
On the other side of this, but that's a great line to use. "Why would I have a romantic relationship with you when I have a better chance of being healthy and happy staying single?"
I'm a young man, but I always knew I would never get married ever since I was a kid. I've seen plenty of people in my life get divorced, get cheated on, be abused, and end up viciously neglected. There's no positives to outweigh the negatives
Yep, U summed it up
❤❤❤ "Thank you!"🙏
@TheJamesGamel I think it's definitely a valid boundary and wish for independence to have, however my advice (as someone with divorced parents and that divorce involving an affair though not being the sole reason for finality) is to learn from the negativity you see rather than assuming it'll happen to you point blank. A *good* marriage takes a lot of commitment and good communication, and a lot of people don't know how to do that, or can't be bothered to learn.
I would really recommend a book called "Hold Me Tight: 7 Conversations For A Lifetime Of Love", it's written by psychologist and focuses on the emotional angle of relationships and finding emotional support and safety in them. Totally respect if you still don't want to get married, but it's very eye-opening on how to solve relationship problems before they reach the point of something like cheating, as well as how to ammend bonds that have become very frayed.
they act so surprised because it wasnt them their grandmothers were telling "dont ever get married, finish your studies" it was US. i vividly remember all of the older women around me tell me to not get married and pursue an education, the common denominator between all of them was abusive husbands and shitty marriages.
So you just surrounded yourself with shitty people. Both of my grandparents had doctorates in teaching and loved their marriage. My grandmother was a housewife until my grandfather set enough aside for her to go to graduate school. You have no argument.
and then there's my grandmother (81 years) who told me i failed as a woman, because i am neither married nor do i have kids.
@@Hitsugix just, whatever you do, don't point out that you have a better quality of life. That is how people get written out of Wills reeeeal quick. 😅
My asian grandmother keeps a stash of money secret from her husband "just in case". Shes a very smart woman
@@music0coolmy husbands Korean grandmother before she passed had a whole bank account and businesses that her husband (my husbands grandfather) NEVER knew about. I wish I could’ve gotten to know her more because she was so smart.
Women want a loving partner and not a disrespectful boss. Totally unreasonable 🙄
A “boss” but somehow also an additional child
A lot of men just want a partner who loves them for who they are, who don’t lie and manipulate, who STAY FAITHFUL and do what they said they’d do in a timely manner.
Oh and mandatory genetic testing at the birth of children, there’s literally no reason NOT to have that and it will help be a first step for men have real reproductive freedom.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvusthis is just like signing a prenup. You say you do it because you wanna be fair and logical but the truth is there is a lack of trust. Family shouldn’t be like this. It’s not a business partnership
@@Yupyupyup32 The faithful have nothing to fear and the unfaithful have to use arguments like yours to abuse people’s good will.
It’s actually why I think it should be a default standard so neither parties feelings are harmed. Can’t be mad at anyone if it’s just the way things are, right?
I also support taking the stigma away from and standardizing for marriage the use of prenups for the same reason, it stopped being about love when the heavily bias towards female state got involved.
@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus ah so you dont even know me and suggest that i am unfaithful eh? yes clearly youre a straight thinking well adjusted rational individual not carrying any baggage and making objective statements. if you need a test to tell you your woman is unfaithful, there is a problem to begin with. the moment my man asks for a paternity test, i know that the marriage is completely baseless and there is nothing to go on, and i will bid farewell. i come from a family where my parents were cold and objective, and ive seen the damage it does to relationships. if you dont have good intuition about women, go develop it. instead of always wondering when your woman will cheat. and the kids maybe yours, but she may have slept with other men with adequate protection, so unless you have a test for that (except for your gut) you are doomed, cos youll always be wondering if your woman is faithful. what a great marriage that would be.
also instead of asking for a prenup, why not ask for law changes where you cant steal peoples money just cos theyre an ex? thats a good default justice right. a prenup is basically you talking about ending a marriage before it even starts. if a man is excited about the divorce more than the marriage that is a huge red flag
"Omg, women want respect. What has this world come to!" Got me laughing so hard. Freaking love this guy! 😂😂😂
Me too!
Totally agree! 👍🏻
My grandmother bore ten children and would get beaten with a cast iron skillet by my grandfather. My mother was the only one of the ten who graduated from college. She came home on a break and caught my grandfather in one of the beatings and literally stood in his face, forbidding him to ever hurt my grandmother again. He threw her against the wall a few times but she kept getting up and in his face until he finally stopped. He never beat his wife again. Men are just mad that today's women are made of stronger stuff and won't let men get away with their abusive shit anymore.
Your mother sounds like a strong and empowering woman!
Glad you're mom stood her ground! My father used to be very abusive until he tried me years ago when I was 26 when I knuckled up and fought him back (btw, were both combat vets)! Never touched me or my siblings again!
they were strong too. just in a different way.
They were strong then too but when you’re raised in a culture where you’re considered property and also abused, the rules are a bit different.
That sounds horrible, and that should never have had to happen, I'm disgusted sometimes by how men treated women in those days. But I speak for myself when I say the reason I'M mad is because I'm constantly accused of being an oppressor when I'm just a normal guy. And I'm tired of being called a bigot when I speak up for myself or try to fight for my OWN rights. I also think feminism has brainwashed women into thinking that being a woman is lesser and that they should be more like men, and be independent. The reality is we need each other, so we shouldn't strive for independence from one another. We're not equals. So we shouldn't be treated like we are. Women ARE NOT LESSER. THEY ARE JUST DIFFERENT THAN MEN. We serve different roles and are better together. Like yin and yang.
It's because we work. When you have access to resources you have the power the leave bad situations. In previous generations, women just had to accept whatever was done to them because they didn't have the power to walk away.
And all thing "woman need less food, less meat" come from woman's slavory in the past
@@karolinasoblinskyte1795Not really. Women *do* have lower caloric needs than men, on average, because women are smaller than men, on average, and have less lean muscle, on average.
This guy is basically a woman so he can't exactly speak for men. A man gets angry, a man looks at porn, a man bottles things up. But, a man also is independent. He does the things you don't want to. He gets angry because he bottles things up to remain strong for others. He goes to get a drink because he needs a bit of time with none of the weight of every burden he's taken. He looks at porn because he'd prefer to be having sex with you, but you make it so complicated with your own insecurities and by constantly rejecting us because of your own insecurities. As men, we are not allowed to reject you, or be insecure ourselves. Yet you want us to do even more, and have nothing to keep ourselves sane except your shining light. It's a little one sided and narcissistic, don't you think?
This guy, is not a man. This guy has no balls, and is nothing like the man you would want. Instead of showing your man these stupid videos, try talking to them without whining at them. This is an example of whining. Phrasing things as if you are already on a higher horse without considering there's two human beings in the conversation.
and plus the way they were raised, that's just how everybody behaved and there was next to nothing they could do. God, I'm so glad I wasn't born into those families.. As a woman, my life would have probably been hell.
Yes!!! Which is also why reproductive rights are impt.
As a man, I vowed never to be like my father, who never parented, he only worked, and treated my mother like crap for wanting more emotional engagement than that. Yeah - women should absolutely desire more than that, if men are arguing they should be allowed to do less than the bare minimum than they deserve what happens next.
Facts 🤝
It brings me some peace to see a man agree with this message. Bless you.
❤appreciate seeing this. It doesn’t make a woman a feminist to want to be respected and treated well.
@@The_NutritionCheffeminism just means equality, it’s not bad
@@The_NutritionChefBy definition, that quite literally does make a woman a feminist. We should not be distancing ourselves from that word and its actual intent.
Also, women have been forced to do so much and expect no validation for it, but so many of *those* men will do the dishes once and expect a parade. That's what we mean by equality in our relationships: no hypocrisy, no double standards, just fair and balanced.
And I think doing the dishes is too low of a bar. If a mom is working a full time job just like the dad, all chores should be shared without question.
Man this made me laugh so hard, I know men, not a man, MEN! Who have broken their backs working their entire lives for kids they were told were theirs but weren't with out so much as a nod of acknowledgement let alone appreciation from anyone. Their reward after all that sacrifice, a small one bedroom apartment for them to die in that they can barely afford because, divorce, alimony, kids you've poured your heart and soul into that now hate your guts because they stay with their mother and her side of the story is the only one they will ever hear, plus she can just drop the "his not your dad anyway" cherry on top. But hey women just have it sooooooooo tough man.
@@alanoppel7485 there are literally men who annihilate their entire families when they find a new woman but sure that's worse. That just proves my point because the relationship that you're talking about is definitely not equal or even healthy.
@@CrystalLia231 come now "annihilate" those are few and far between yet as much as 30% of men who are told they are the father ....aren't, what you're saying and what I'm saying are no where near the same. But hey only women are victims man bad shit only counts when it happens to them right?!
@@alanoppel7485fr bruh,this comment section is so bizarre
I say this as a woman: I don’t care if the dishes get done, either. But if dishes in the sink bothers someone that I love? Then I care about the dishes. This isn’t just a romantic partnership thing, either. I had to learn this as a daughter, because dishes in the sink don’t bother me, but they do bother my mother, who lives with me.
Thanks for posting this like soo many ppl forget that the way you treat your spouse or partner is almost the same with other loved ones eg. Siblings , parents etc . Like ppl love to apply it in relationships, start now apply it now be respectful , understanding, emotionally intelligent etc practice it now it helps . Just like you I live with my mother and 6 siblings ( I'm the oldest ) and before seeing how much it affected her I didn't really care but now that's one of the first things I do when I go down to the kitchen.
Also, at some point someone has to care if the dishes get done if you want to...have dishes to eat off of again and not have an ecosystem growing in your sink.
And if it's always the same person caring and doing something about it, we have an issue.
Like, when I hear something like that, I hear "I've never lived alone and learnt to take care of myself because someone else always did it for me"
“Beggars can’t be choosers”
SHES YOUR GIRLFRIEND WHY IS SHE BEGGING IN THE FIRST PLACE
Cuz the dude begrudgingly took her out of the fwb zone because she grew a backbone one day and the dude thought free sex with commitment is still free sex. Like he did her a favour by making her his gf. Men think theyre actually choosing us lmfao all because pick mes glorify men and their non existing commitment (commitment isnt a thing unless theres investment like financial investment)
Wife, not girlfriend. He's wearing a wedding ring.
It's just a saying. If I say it's raining cats and dogs, it's not actually raining furry friends.
@@Mysteryspy Dude obviously. That’s not the point. Your partner shouldn’t have to be begging you for anything.
maybe he was implying that she's a stay at home wife, regardless, that's very disrespectful, disrespectful enough for a divorce.
My father died two years ago and even though my mom cared for him until the end, she has to admit that now, for the first time in her life, she can live the way she wants, eat what and when she wants, dress the way she likes it etc etc. During her marriage absolutely everything went the way he wanted it, and she couldn't leave because she would have left with nothing. No man will ever cross her door steps again, and I do understand why.
These days I have a couple of young male friends, all extremely frustrated singles, but if you talk to them, neither of them sees women as an equal human being, or even likes and respects them. Unfortunately they aren't aware of that.
Gotta knock some sense into them.
That’s literally my brother in law right now. And he legit gets pissed off anytime you tell him women are people too and just as valuable.
Where do they learn it?
Even throughout social media and online we see many female movement and empowering messages and support nd all. There’s still a huge neglect in many of the rest of society’s teaching, parents that haven’t moved on or didn’ want to.. I really hate it when ppl assume it, but misogyny really is still a huge problem throughout many cities, towns and countries.
So many men out there that are looking for a zero cost pet plus sexual object plus complaining machine to clean up after them. My apologies but that sure sounds a lot like a form of subtle slavery.
“She wants me to hug her instead of GROPE her” 😂😂😂😂 Lve this & SOOO accurate
the irony is that if he actually just gave her hugs without anything else, he would likely get a greenlight for that anything else a hell of a lot more often than he gets at the moment
THIS! a classmate of mine in high school was acting just like this when we were having group discussions about what is an ideal partner. I just started listing the usual stuff you know like "loyal, supportive, honest" and all of a sudden this guy interrupts me with "OH SO YOU JUST WANT A LOYAL DOG THEN!??" Like, Jesus if he thinks this is asking for too much then what does he think being in a relationship is about??
I remember when my mom got her first credit card in her name. It was 1980 and I was almost 5 years old. Two years later she was able to leave my father who was abusive to all of us. A few years later she met my stepdad and I really saw what a healthy relationship looked like.
Thank God for good stepdads who treat our mothers right. Miracles each and every one of them.
Wow 1980 blimey
Them: Women in the past didn't expect as much and were happy with what they had.
Men in the past: *mysteriously dying after drinking their morning coffee that their wife made them*
Shame it's illegal
women in the past: handing down heavy ass cast iron frying pans as heirlooms
men in the past: going out for cigarettes one day and "never coming back"
@@Gerbilomonous what? he just went out for cigarettes and didn't come back. i don't know why he left me all the bank account info before he left though, that was just a weird coincidence
"Some men just can't hold their arsenic."
my husbands grandma used to use it on her man if he came home drunk from the bar.@@bottomofastairwell
Men have different expectations from women than they did 80 years ago. My grandfather was perfectly happy with my grandmother taking care of the house and kids and men now want women to take care of the house and kids but also work outside the home to contribute to the finances. Women have to do all the stuff they did in generations past PLUS earn an income.
I know no men who WANT their wives working outside the home. Me and several of my friends who are married make serious sacrifices to ensure that our wives can be stay at home moms and all of us contribute to household chores and childcare on top of being the providers.
I even make sure my wife gets free time away from the kids. I haven't had a night off that I picked in over a year and a half.
I know a lot of guys who are the same. Some who aren't, but more that are the same as me. Yet everywhere I look it's the same men ain't shit and men are big child attitude. It sucks. I'm a man. Why are people spending so much time hating on me. My friends are men. My brother is a man. We mostly do everything right, why are we hated so much.
@@abstracttechnician2750Yeah sorry just because you and your friends work to have stay at home wives doesn’t mean the whole world is that way. If you do some research you can see half of couples in the U.S both work and that number is still growing. Nobody hates you individually. If what people are saying about men doesn’t apply to you then it shouldn’t offend you.
@@abstracttechnician2750 Sorry, there’s many good people and it seems like you’re one of them but there are also just as many bad and abusive men and women alike. If anything, I like the call the abusive men “boys” to differentiate.
These comments aren’t always directed to you but more often directed to the boys.
@@katq832we all give credit to the truly good men such as yourself who treat their partners right. We hate on and make fun of the little boys in giant bodies to put them in the corner with a dunce cap where they belong!
Keep being a good dude! Be the light in the world that is not.
@@abstracttechnician2750respect you and your friends, but I literally had a call with one of my guy friends (in his 30s) who was talking about a potential partner and one of her flaws was that she wanted to be a “TRAD wife” I was like, what’s that’? 😂 he said a traditional stay at home mom and I was like “oh! I didn’t know that was a red flag now a days” 😅
Done with men. 61 and single, independent and loving it! Me and my 3 cats are very happy 😊
If you want a traditional marriage, you need to make traditional marriage money. You cannot both be working but only expecting her to do the chores. If you want a traditional wife that stays home, raises the kids, does chores AND has dinner ready for you then you gotta have the wallet to back that life style up. So either pay up or shut up and do the laundry.
Exactly! And it goes both ways if your a woman who wants a high earning man when you don't wanna work you gotta stay home do chores and have dinner ready.
I completely agree
@@Bacon2000.honestly, I agree.
with how the economy is flowing. There’s a lot of women who would be perfectly ok with being housewives, but it’s not an excuse for them to be treated less than equals in relationships.
I’d be alright as a housewife, but my mother always told me to secure my own income. It’s easier to maintain independence and protect yourself from being financially controlled if you have a job of your own.
@@Bacon2000.Why do you assume automatically assume that a woman's career is less valuable than a man's?
Plenty of high or even moderate earning couples both work and just split up home responsibilities or have part or full time help if they need it,including using a daycare center or nanny if they have children.
@@judithsixkiller5586 They didn't say that at all?
@@judithsixkiller5586 he didnt.
Sad truth is nobody's listening until a man says it for us
Are you two saying that most men are far more willing to listen to what men say than what women say? I can't attest to this.
This has some truth in it, sadly. But nonetheless I do feel this is helpful even to hear that a man gets it ... and...maybe he will help other men get it.. I wonder what percentage of his followers are men?
Oh, he probably deleted my reply, I don't see it. I didn't mean to be disrespectful.
Damn. This hurt too real.
Men aren't listening until a man says it. We've been saying this to each other for decades.
I'd rather be alone then be with someone that doesn't treat me well. I'm self supporting and don't need to be married
Thank you for this real footage of your therapy session with my ex 😂😭😭😭
Lol
They also realized that not only “women can do anything the men can” but it also meant “men can do anything a woman can”. If a woman can have empathy, provide for her children, bond, cook, clean, and juggle all that bullshit WHILE having a job then so can a man.
Seriously, this is an underrated comment. Feminism is for BOTH men and women.
yeah that phrase is childish and for good reason....we tell it to kids for motivation. believe it and you could get hurt or end up in a job you can't do.
it's good to dream but reality will wake you up.
@@chaoticgood8645 yeah, we have proven over the last 20 years that that's bull.
@@johnsmith-de3tl Despite your words, I still believe in you. I believe it's in your capacity to develop empathy, emotional maturity, and good house skills, even if you keep telling yourself that you can't do it. Don't let your past hold you back. You can yet be a light in other people's lives.
@@Epsiloncat i hope you manage to lose this spite and resentment thats been put on you by society and find someone that you can respect enough to not cheat on them....this time. ;)
This question feels like it can be answered the same way as "Why is the divorce rate higher than it was for our grandparents?" Because women today know they can escape if their relationship turns abusive or just simply isn't fair or fulfilling. Whereas our grandmothers were forced to stay for a variety of reasons (social shame, lack of financial and educational freedom, couldn't even open a bank account without a man's permission, etc), so they put up with a whole lot of crap that we just don't have to anymore.
Thanks for pointing out how basic these "high expectations" really are.
Orrrr for the ballsy women esp in the 1800s their husband’s would suddenly get sick and die 🤷🏼♀️ ooops! I’m a widow now!
Ok but why is the divorce rate higher for lesbian couples than heterosexual couples and lower for gay couples?
It's almost like w*men are the problem and are always financially incentivized to initiate divorce.
Men will continue to not get married, avoid women in every setting possible, and you can continue shrieking into your pillow that you have to work and don't have an indentured servant. Hahahahahaha.
Yeah, and women are no longer told by their priests and doctors, and community members that they just need to be patient with the abuse and or with what they don't really want. My mother was told by her priest she needed to stay in the relationship because she made a promise to God. As if God isn't in the business of forgiveness if someone makes a mistake in their partner choice.
" Because women today know they can escape if their relationship turns abusive or just simply isn't fair or fulfilling. " < yeah... or simply because they got giga chads attention and throw everything away for a little kick.
Sorry to destroy your ilussions, but women nowadays are in no means any better than men are. There are very bad examples on every side.
And regarding our grandparents : Out of my view its not the missing opportunity of walking away... its that they worked through things and set up the right priorities.
Nowadays people tend to run after everything, except the one thing that counts fighting for : Love.
@@schuylergeery-zink1923 "Doctor, i told him over and over again: Stop eating the rat poison. But he always said 'What would a woman know about rat poson?'
Truly a shame"
This man respects women. Thank you for educating the internet community. ❤
“I believe the call that one affection.” 😂😂
I work/have worked, with a lot of older women. These are women who (mostly, there was one who divorced) were with their husbands until the husbands passed away. Every single one of them has told me they worked liked dogs to keep their men happy and comfortable for almost zero appreciation. And even in their lates 60s and mid 70s, they are loving the heck out of single life. Says a lot about those old school marriages people keep trying to glorify.
And the funny thing is it's not the women glorifying it 🤣
@@hannahchellingworth5135it’s usually guys.
You’re only seeing the broke ones. My mom is sitting on more than $5 million because she was willing to sacrifice her career to raise me and my brothers.
The most successful women are not found in the workplace
@@capitalist4life As a woman, I wouldn't call myself a "successful woman" if I have raised a son like you. I would be devastated if my son make a comment like you did💀
Everybody I know who worked with older people told me about older men who always tell them about the one woman that got away. So yes, there often is zero appreciation for their wives.
I have seen my father doing house chores, helping my mother around in the kitchen (he was an excellent cook, btw) and was always emotionally available. He has set a standard for me and while looking for a partner, I will never lower it. :)
P.S.: I miss him so much everyday. I wish he was still alive. ❤
Same tho , my father always helped my mom , I saw him doing almost every household chore in my house , but they never argued about that that's a healthy relationship
You had a great and wonderful dad.
You had a good dad! One thing I'd love for us to all stop doing, though, is calling it 'helping mom/ wife/ woman in the house' because it still frames it as her work, he's just helping. My husband does not help me clean and do chores, he does his share. All men need to understand that housework is their too.
I watched my parents, and I saw a team. They both worked, but my dad worked less due to some health issues that came up when I was you, that plagued him the rest of his life. But, he still did the best he could. And he always helped around the house, doing whatever needed to be done. I was closer to my dad than my older brother. He taught me so much, and set a great example for me. Somehow, my brother never got the message.
My dad was basically the stay at home parent my whole life while my mom worked. My dad hated it tho bc he felt he should be a provider with my mom rather than her being the only one working. My dad did all the things other kids’ mom’s usually did like for example driving me around to school and friend’s houses. He cooks and cleans. So it was a bit backward for me growing up which I’m grateful for experiencing
Ofc my dad still had anger issues so me and my sibling would still go to our mom for our emotional needs but aside from that the traditional gender roles were basically swapped in my household. My dad didn’t like being the stay at home parent my whole childhood, (he was laid off from work and he couldn’t get another job so this was his role for a long time) but he still got the job done regardless
I’m now almost 20 and he only recently managed to get a job again and he’s much happier. And he still cooks and cleans a lot at home, my mom never cooks, I’d be a bit confused tbh if I ever saw her cooking
Right lmao how dare we expect to be treated like living breathing human beings 😂😂😂
Thank you for educating men and women, boys and girls, of all age groups! You are helping people more than you'll ever know 😊. It's never too late to change, learn and find peace and happiness. This is awesome!
I just had a argument with my husband a few hours ago about this. I sat him down and told laid it all out. For 6 years I've been trying to get our autistic daughter a medical evaluation so she can get services. I 've been getting the run around for SIX YEARS. 2 months ago I gave him the sign up infor for a new clinic that is only 30min away and asked him to do it. He never did. So the fight was about his constant procrasitnation and at the end of it he came back wtih "I don't know what you want" I replied "YOU DO! you know you just don't want to do it. I want you to say "Sorry I forgot I will do it now." He just sat there silent. He finally stood up and said "okay well it's sat. remind me on Monday and I'll do it then" omg if I had been holding something I probably would have chucked it at his head. instead I replied "NO. YOU GO. GET YOUR PHONE! and YOU remind YOURSELF!"
You know him than any of us possibly could, but autism is often patrilineal and as someone with AuDHD it's practically impossible to remember schedules, appointments, etc and--here's the kicker--reminders aren't that useful for a lot of us. I mean, they are, but those of us with moderate to high support needs need to be _sat down and given the reminder._ I won't remember to add something to the calendar. I won't remember to set an alarm. It's legitimately a disability of time blindness. I'm not saying he has this, I'm saying since autism is a potential factor, it's worth looking into.
But even if he is, what that then means is that he needs to learn communication habits to better work with you in making sure his blind spots are covered. You're still not obligated to be his mommy
They act dumb on purpose so they don’t have to do anything. They understand exactly what they are doing.
time for divorce
@@NieroshaiTheSable I want to add to this, if there is any suspicion that the husband has autism or anything of the like then he should be(come) aware of that. From personal experience; if you point out that you think someone may have a thing and they don't start looking into it for themselves, then be ready to wait another 6 years for anything to change. In which case I'd more recommend breaking up.
Because admitting there may be a thing is step 1, and when they finally do that after years and years of denial and behaving like a stubborn teen then they have to actually make a phone call and plan an appointment to get tested... another prime chance for procrastination and after all that there's the wait lists.
In case they get diagnose with something, probably more waitlists for any kind of treatment/help! And it's all for nothing if they then decide "I am diagnosed, this is just who I am, I'm now going to use it as an excuse for bad behaviors and never make an effort to improve myself".
In my experience the fast majority of people with autism and/or adhd are lovely and very willing to work on themselves + work with their environment. It's just that.. if he's this bad with getting his daughter treatment and it's been going on for _6 years_ .. I fear you might have a bad apple. Maybe. Or he improves once he stops the denial, potentially.
Or he doesn't have anything that can be diagnosed, which is also great to know. Because then you know his shitty actions are caused by his disinterest and you should get away from him 😅
@@la6136 ah, its the man whisperer. tell us what's in their minds oh great one.
That got tears into my eyes .
As a women who is attracted to KIND and kind men ONLY, I sometimes catch myself thinking : "Am I asking for too much?should I content myself with the rare affection I get?"
I've heard it said that straight women are the best proof that sexuality isn't a choice... it's sad how true that is sometimes.
Hugs and bugs sister. Hope you find a good partner some day❤
@@solsystem1342
Choices made long ago are still choices, even if you don't think they are choices.
@@POIUYTREWQ62you chose your sexuality a long time ago?
@@momoyaoyorozu6709i think they mean the choices you make in character customisation before you're born, you know, like we're in an rpg
@@Toasterthedoaster lol
The guy in the baseball cap just described my entire (former) marriage.
Why did that guy’s statement make my blood pressure soar? Love love the clipboard recaps.
A man literally said to me, "Women who are too strong like you are the reason all the Western men are going to 3rd world countries to find wives!"
Yep, because they know beggars can't be choosers. I wish financial independence to my sisters around the globe- we all should feel empowered to walk away from imbalanced relationships.
strong? yeah, bet he didn't use that word.
What if he's right? If you ask most American women do you need men. They will always say "absolutely not." If you ask the same question anywhere else in the world, they will say "Of course." We are social creatures. We absolutely need others, and that's not a weakness the way women in the US think it is. I need the women in my life. Women are wonderful. Let go of the anger and disdain, and you'll find life gets better :)
Just because he THINKS that women are "more docile" in other countries, does not mean that it is the case.
@@Dice-Z docile? being a harpy is not strong and being kind is not docile.
Yep the women in those countries are in survival mode or come from suppressed female slave type culture. The men who go there are the ones who couldn’t be a healthy enough man with anything solid to offer back home and blames it on women having actual standards now, but those men call healthy standards ‘bad attitude’ and ‘entitlement’ lol.
In short: "Why can't I benefit from the abuse and exploitation of women now?!" - An incel's love letter to historical subjugation.
Well said!!
Amen
Some women are still more than happy with their traditionally masculine men. To be honest it's getting harder and harder to find them with testosterone levels being at their all time lowest in all of human history.
@@JeffSlapper Interesting comment, Mr. Slapper. Might your woman (if there is a real one) be into S/M? Because THAT is surely representative of MOST women.
Women in relationships are usual not loyal
and dont have much worth!
Anyone else putting this on repeat cause it's so awesome to listen to and learn from? 😁 I am so grateful for this video! Thank you so much for posting it!
Because we legally couldn't walk away, buy our own houses and get our own credit. Once we could do that and live on our own, game changer. We never wanted to put up with the garbage from before, we HAD to in order to eat and sleep indoors.
"Women expect men to care about them, respect them, and not treat them like slaves while they cheat." Yeah, that sounds so unreasonable.
Not all women cheat
This guy is basically a woman so he can't exactly speak for men. A man gets angry, a man looks at porn, a man bottles things up. But, a man also is independent. He does the things you don't want to. He gets angry because he bottles things up to remain strong for others. He goes to get a drink because he needs a bit of time with none of the weight of every burden he's taken. He looks at porn because he'd prefer to be having sex with you, but you make it so complicated with your own insecurities and by constantly rejecting us because of your own insecurities. As men, we are not allowed to reject you, or be insecure ourselves. Yet you want us to do even more, and have nothing to keep ourselves sane except your shining light. It's a little one sided and narcissistic, don't you think?
This guy, is not a man. This guy has no balls, and is nothing like the man you would want. Instead of showing your man these stupid videos, try talking to them without whining at them. This is an example of whining. Phrasing things as if you are already on a higher horse without considering there's two human beings in the conversation.
@@Ladivina74 I was genuinely laughing hysterically when I read that! Dude! No one mentioned "wemen" cheating in the first place!😂😂😂 the unintentional humour is gold!
@@Ladivina74 No, they don't. Not all women cheat, and not all men cheat. But the ones who complain on the internet that there are no good women and modern women are horrible DEFINITELY cheat. They don't think it's wrong for them to cheat, because Kevin Samuels and Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson all told them women have no value as people and are interchangeable dumpsters and should be treated as such.
**1900s end**
some dudes: wait. i cant do wtfever i want and treat women like shit because they don't depend on me for survival anymore? what do you mean accountability, respect, and partnership? WTF ARE THESE EXPECTATIONS!?
Can I just say… thank you? Thank you for validating all these “trivial” concerns of women - the other short, “people aren’t responsible for how we feel”… just thanks, for not labeling our needs as unrealistic 😢❤
That's your hero, huh? Says everything you wanna hear... But somehow still got divorced. But women are perfect innocent doves...
@@patbenz4327 I said thank you to an influencer for making women’s need feel understood and validated and you likened that to “he’s my hero”? I pointed out a reel that explains people ARE capable of making us feel certain emotions, and you say “women act like innocent doves”? I’m just wondering where are you in your own love life where you would be disrespectful to a woman you don’t know and talk poorly about women in general? I’m sorry that you think so negatively of women, that we just walk around acting like we do no harm, when all that was said is “thanks for making me feel heard”. lol 😂
Whenever people tell me to lower my standards I tell them I had to work hard to get here and they are probably only going to get higher
Same xx
But all I want is kindness and love and that is not high standards but can seem like it at times but maybe I'm wrong
@@lauraelliot5716 Seems like a very basic reasonable standard
@alianna8806 yes
Why expect anything else?
Thanks🩷🩷
Who would say kindness is wrong when it is needed for love
Imagine feeling entitled to a relationship but being unprepared to contribute to it or listen to your partner...
You just perfectly described the approach of most men to relationships.
Its ok to be unprepared, as long as you are not unwilling, you can learnif you put your mind into it
I once talked about my expectations (basically most of what is in this short) in a relationship at a family gathering. My uncle exclaimed "You're expecting perfection!" and my aunt answered him "Her expectations are in Hell, they can't get any lower..."
@@carlopicanco2555 No they're siblings 🤣
@@carlopicanco2555 Actually they do, they're the kind of people who can argue very intensely and make up the next day or within the next hour, no resentment or nothin'
This is wonderful and also “where are you hiding clipboards”? Had me rolling. Thank you! 😂
Well done! Caught in an "old" generation at 65 and wishing younger women better luck.
Oh, we don't WANT emotional "garbage". We're just sorting out said garbage out of our lives!
Preach! 🎉🎉🎉
Very well said! Wish the men were here and listening!
nah you just want shit to throw next time you argue over him spending too much time with the lads
@@lawrencerutherford4260yall are so annoying
@@lawrencerutherford4260bitch I’m a woman and I’m always invited to boys night. literally none of their girlfriends have said ANYTHING about boys night
Women always wanted these things but they couldn't leave crappy partners because they couldn't have a mortgage or a bank account without a male cosigner.
If you were able to leave a horrible "partner" by using your own checking account to pay your own mortgage... thank a feminist.
don't forget our guiding star, no fault divorce
@@heresyisecstasy you're absolutely right. The suicide rate among married women dropped off a cliff with no fault divorce!
Thank you for reminding us of this. It's important to remember that we are making a difference, even if it doesn't seem like it.
100% It's only been 50 years since women could get a credit card. My mother was still in highschool when that law changed. So it's only been 2 generations since then.
Exactly.
Lol! This guy ROCKS!!!
“I believe they call that one affection” 😂😂😭😂
1969 - introduction of no fault divorce
1974 - women gained the ability to own a credit card in their own name
It's not that they expect more, it's that they have another choice now. Men weren't more free, women were less free.
Men were less free they couldnt vote but were sent to war while women stayed home. women could spend all their husbands money too without getting any debt. Now women own most debt in the usa after getting the right to own credit cards 😂😂
@@Bshdjdj-lt7by it's the us vs them mentality, we had it bad, they had it good. an unreasonable statement at the best of times.
@@Bshdjdj-lt7byMen were sent to war because the non-disposable gender was busy creating and raising society.
Spot on.
@@johnsmith-de3tl Where is the draft fo women in the Military?
Women today want to actually like their husbands. Wild.
BUT BUT Men have it harder cos they are all oil rig workers and electricians and and they built the INFRASTRUCTURE of this society and women have easy jobs like teaching and nursing if women or mens went extingt in the stone age the alone men would have built a UTOPIA but the women would still be in caves doing the ooga booga by now. so women should like men no mater what because if it werenr for men this society would not exist and clearly all men had an equal role in building our society and should be trieated like the KINGS they are!!!!
Men of today actually want to like their wives. Wild.
*claps*
I used to work in long term care (high end nursing home), and more often than not when husbands would die the widows would be completely lost. Then, after a few weeks the other widows would join up and live their best lives.
Women who had been with their husbands in the community for 20+ years and who were meek and silent would suddenly be ordering out, cackling with such joy, and just full of vibrant confidence a few weeks or months after being widowed.
Men, on the other hand, did not fair well when their wives passed. Most would stop eating, everything irritated them, and they'd drink excessively. All the suicides at the community involved either recently widowed men or men who were diagnosed with a terminal illness.
Men did not thrive without women and women thrived without men. Keep that in mind when idealizing the "good ol' days." The nursing homes and long term care communities eventually show the true nature of so many lifelong relationships we tend to idealize.
😂😂😂😂 flip and have a good laugh at men’s expectations. God has a sense of humor for sure!
“She wants me to value her opinion and respect her boundaries but I’m to lazy to actually put in any work to make our relationship better by becoming a better person who values her opinion and respects her boundaries”
me, me, me, me, me, me.
if it's all about you, then its going to be only you in the end.
Men that act like this would freak the fuck out,literally lose their shit, if they were treated like this by their woman.
@johnsmith-de3tl It's interesting you bring this up, because this is a problem for men trying to find good women too
@@johnsmith-de3tlomg!!! i’m sooo sorry that u think a woman getting her needs met is egotistical!! lol it seems to be all abt u ig….. it’s literally a hypothetical and the fact ur getting mad enough to comment says a lot abt how ur love life goes ❤
@@sophiastein2953 well, thats a ball of smug petty resentment. a dose of gas, some sophistry and the classic belittling. you do this alot dont you, even to your "friends" when they're not around.
Here's the thing: My mother's and grandmother's generation wanted that stuff too. They didn't ask because they knew it would fall on deaf ears. When men proved they can AND do listen, is when women became more vocal!
Yes! The only reason people are aware of it now is because women are no longer basically their husband’s possession, and actually have a say. Me and my female friends were talking about how being born a guy would make life easier, and my male friend genuinely asked what the advantages were. As a serious question.
My grandma was all set to leave, then she found out she was pregnant.
Respectfully, women stood up even when men proved they don’t listen! Feminism didn’t come because of a change in attitude with men (clearly, as most men today still don’t get it). People in your mother/ grandmother’s generation stood up and fought against the grain
yeah, sadly i don't think men proved they can listen. I think those women just fought ahrd enough for their own rights that we now HAVE rights for our generation.
so now we AHVE options, we can work and make our own money, and we don't HAVE to put up with men's shit anymore.
women are still shouting about what they want from the rooftops, and men still aren't listening. the difference is that we're not literally trapped with them anymore. so now we can just say "ok, you don't wanna listen, cool, i'm out" and leave. and they can't do shit about it, because we're not their property anymore.
the women that came before us would be glad to see that their hard work and their fighting paid off, and that women actually have a choice now, when they didn't. i think they'd be really glad to know that their granddaughters and great granddaughters won't ever have to be trapped in a loveless marriage if they don't want to be
Yeah and nowadays, the men are their wives' possession and feminists dare call that equality.
"Take turns speaking. Trying to understand validate and empathize with the other's experience" That's good stuff
My grandpa is one hell of a man so it seems to me the quality of men was much higher years ago in general.
Insane how men today just assume that being a terrible husband/partner was the norm 70 years ago
That is Bullshit it is scientific proven that women are the Problem!
Liar!
Women were legally property so.... it WAS the norm.
@@jadecoolness101 That was long in the past in the west!
@@killerkraut9179 "long in the past"
Literally hasn't even been a century since women gained the right to a bank account and owning property...
Sad that this feels new to people. My grandpa treated my grandma with mutual respect, understanding and shared responsibility back in the '40s. He always taught us that this is how you treat people you love. 💕 And mutual affection isn't some new feminist thing. You can find it in lovers' voices in the book of psalms. We always have and always will have the choice to love others more than we love our own wants.
Awww. My granny and my grandpa were like this, too. They had a beautiful relationship until he pased. Live was never easy for them but they were happier than the most couples I know, because they treated each other with love and respect.
Women had no freedoms, choices, respect, love, fidelity or human dignity in those old-timey marriages. Men went to work and lived the rest of their lives like single men and women made the best of a bad situation. Women were miserable and literally no man cared, because men didn't have to care.
And I bet your Grandma didn't treat your grandpa like most modern women treat men now.
Respect to them!!; 👌✨You are very lucky to have that rare and positive example ❤ I am not as lucky :/
@@frontdeskstaff9359 I bet Grandpa did things to earn that respect instead of expecting to be given respect simply for existing the way modern men do now.
OK...and can we get the flip side to this? 😄
"we can't even like half naked photos of models on Instagram"
Hey if she is the type that posts those pics then those complaints aren't even valid
But if she doesn't post those, then it's absolutely valid.
Don't ask for a partner to have more integrity and trustworthiness than you're willing to have 🤷🏾♂️.
Heh, my boyfriend just broke up with me because he tried to convince me that he never said he could find better. I just uno reversed him comment and told him I could do the same. Now I’m the bad guy for returning the same energy. He never cared to listen to me but I had to listen to him. Asked him to delete his text history with his ex that was current and he was flirting with her a month before we got together but I’m wrong for considering that a red flag. Bro literally jumped from her to me and had told me he loved me on the 3rd week then tried forcing himself to live with me and just assumed I’d pay all the bills besides the rent with him like that’s a win…. Goodbye sir 👋
Yep, as a man, hope you find someone better, there's some toxic ass people everywhere
holy shit dude congrats on getting rid of the waste of space! I hope you enjoy your newfound peace!🫶
Good call !!
He sounds like a classic narcissist. Don't get sucked back in.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This is why so many of us have chosen to stay single now. No expectations means no disappointments.
Yes, unfortunately.
It would be better, though, if more of us all could improve in our ability to see, communicate, discuss, adapt, accept, and make decisions on more realistic expectations.
Me too. No women, no disappointments.
I'm highly suspicious that being asexual runs in the family. Specifically with the women. It would biologically make sense. Since for centuries it didn't really matter if women had physical attraction. It wasn't ever her choice whether she got to have kids or not. So long as she wasn't barren that was happening either way. I can trace it back to three generations. My cousin is also Ace and so am I.
@@woodykusaki9970 You talk like your heart really is broken and I'm sorry about that. But your comment can also be offending the women out there who really work on themselves, on communication, authenticity, trust, faithfulness and their place as a good partner. Plus, the same can be said about men. And I'm sure you wouldn't like to hear that about you after all you did to be a good person and a good man. It's not about "no women, no disappointment" or "no men, no disappointment". It's more about "no broken, immature or inadequate partner, no disappointment", I guess.
@@woodykusaki9970mfer you said you were gay on another comment gtfo here 😂
That’s a straw man. The dunderhead he’s describing does not exist
These men are very real and I know a lot of people who think like them.
One of them I meant to call “dad”, whatever that is (and he isn’t the only one I know).
Are you reading the comments?
@@Beth-sn9ip no
@@andreimircea2254 Not true
They do exist. Just think about a guy would only cares for himself, that’s this example.
The problem here is that he chooses the WORST man to represent all men and then acts like these are the ONLY expectations women have for men.
It’s intellectually dishonest.
What if women stopped organizing households, quit caring for children, looked at porn and just worked and came home and never made dinner and just played video games?
Dont forget that "back in the day" household chores were shared, there were just more outside ones that the men did. They wouldnt be expected to do dishes becaude they hauled the water and chopped the wood to make the fire to heat the water to do the dishes...and butchered the animal that the wife turned into sausage, and raised the flax the wife spun into linen for them to wear...there have always been jerks, but by and large you can only be so mean to someone on whom your *survival* depends before you realize teamwork is smarter. Dont let these dudes give you any nonesense about men not having to contribute back in the day!!!
especially where more and more couples are starting to live in apartments where there are no outside chores to be done besides vehicle maintenance and up keep. i would genuinely love to do the upkeep of a living space if i was doing it with a partner.
So true. Also this whole weird narrative of women didn't work back in the day.
Excuse me, women worked in farms, did fishing, didn't trading in marketplaces. It's hilarious to see this argument, because even now in rural areas you'd see women working in farms etc.
Historically men sat around and did nothing. Especially the white men. They didn’t create anything. They had POC and women do all of the work. It is the same today.
Isn't it interesting how society was able to outsource all these "men's chores" to machines and economy, but the domestic chores still need to be done by physical work. Tysm patriarchy.
Yeah but now a lot dont have these chores and still dont do anything inside the house. If someone was doing all that work out there i would be fine doing the work inside.
"I believe they call that one affection" got me rolling on the floor
Times have changed! Women want quality! We have evolved! Men can't just do whatever they want!
Women also need to do understand that men express their emotions in a VASTLY different way than women do.
"i want respect"
"oh god what are going to ask for next!? the moon!? women these days!!"
nah cuz its even worse at school i saw a girl ask her "boyfriend" from some of his water and he said "wow you really want everything from me dont you?"
Op It’s more like:
Woman: I don’t feel that respected in our relationship.
Guy: God! Modern women these days are so egotistical!!
Yes, respect, love and common ground is the basis of a good marriage, a lovely friend of mine told me once.
If a man doesn't respect his wife, it's simply better to leave. Why bother & waste time ... ? He is not going to change.
Let's be honest, he's being disingenuous here and ignoring men's actual concerns
@@Suited_Natif this is what you think most guys think, you're delusional
As I watched it set in how painfully accurate this is. One thing I have noticed is men who want to be better partners to women DO a lot of things for the woman - They fix her car. They buy her gifts. They open doors. Those are all great things and the effort is great! I just think men aren't taught to have awareness of the emotional part. For example buying her dinner is great but if you don't look her in the eyes and engage in meaningful conversation with her during that dinner then you won't have a deep relationship. Fixing her car is great but if you don't listen to her and try to take her perspective when she voices a concern in the relationship then you're falling short as a partner. Men need more awareness of how to actually have a relationship, not JUST how to do nice things for someone.
If I get my car fixed for free I can deal with no deep talks lol
While that's true, I wonder if they are just following the old rule: actions speak louder than words. They could certainly improve their interpersonal skills, but at least they are trying. The alone is an improvement over traditional marriages.
Shoot, that sounds amazing. Just throw a monthly date night in there, kindness, traditional values, and believe in God. I’d call that a winner. And no, he doesn’t need to be 6 feet tall and make 6 figures. That stuff is ridiculous.
@@margaritasatmidnight3134 "actions speak louder than words" but speaking is, in itself, an action. Words are not worthless, in fact they hold a lot of weight. You need actions and words.
You speak the truth. Gifts and flowers are not enjoyed if there's nothing behind them.
The only things that are ACTUALLY bullshit expectations are the 6/6/6 and expectation of vulnerability without the "baggage" that comes with it.
And there IS a difference between emotional vulnerability and trauma dumping that most people on both ends just don't understand. Do note that if you ask "what's wrong" and then react poorly to honesty and openness, you lose all rights to complain about it.
Backwards hat you made me actually mad, good representation of that kind of guy. The translations are very accurate 😂
The “I believe they call that affection” made me burst out laughing 🤣
Women expect more because they learned what happened if they expected less
YES!!
And if we stop speaking up that upward climb we arduously trudged can have us rolling backwards fast! This isn’t the first time women have spoken out after being suppressed-it was just the most successful!
🙌 Thank you for putting into words what most of us can't even express to ourselves!
I watched my mom get abused my entire childhood because she accepted a "traditional marriage" and therefore was entirely dependant on my father. It was horrible to witness and so hard to live through, when we were also underage and dependant, and now of course none of us ever want to be in a position where we can't leave if things get bad.
And a lot of people make it sound like you're just running away at the slightest problem, but my father was violent and dangerous and it's probably just dumb luck that we're not all dead thanks to some of the stunts he pulled. So yeah, being able to escape in situations like that matters
So sorry you had to experience that. :(
@@kj.4977 thank you 💜 thankfully we're all out and safe now, but it was scary at the time
So many sad guys in here saying that what women really want is 6 feet, 6 figures and a 6 pack. Guys, stop watching the manosphere channels and just grow up into a whole adult person.
It is not worth giving up your happiness to be with a woman.
@@Kaylor-xo3ooyes. Everyone agrees with that? How is that even a response to that comment?
@@billcipher8645 In the past, I used to take it as I had to be submissive to my partner. That is also a recipe for abuse. So, I just want to make things clear for anyone that comes across it.
But I do want a guy who is in shape and funny . because I’M in shape and funny! Why is it wrong for women to have desires that match our lifestyle. Men are upset we are starting to do the same things they’ve always done 😅. Have expectations and desires. Women have a right to be picky. Just like men have been. Take a note from us women. Start improving yourselves now or end up alone 😅. Women had the leg up on self improvement. Men need to stop blaming women and start working on themselves. Start working on those abs 😅
@@Kaylor-xo3oo Hey man, it’s okay to be gay. You can marry a man now and live a happy life. Congratulations on coming out 🎉
Don’t forget that most married women now work full-time even if they are mothers.
His constant shock over where he finds the clipboards never fails to make me giggle😂
Lol, I'm going to need a copy of that list, Jimmy. 😂 It'll remind me of my non-negotiables 👍
Yes!
This guy is basically a woman so he can't exactly speak for men. A man gets angry, a man looks at porn, a man bottles things up. But, a man also is independent. He does the things you don't want to. He gets angry because he bottles things up to remain strong for others. He goes to get a drink because he needs a bit of time with none of the weight of every burden he's taken. He looks at porn because he'd prefer to be having sex with you, but you make it so complicated with your own insecurities and by constantly rejecting us because of your own insecurities. As men, we are not allowed to reject you, or be insecure ourselves. Yet you want us to do even more, and have nothing to keep ourselves sane except your shining light. It's a little one sided and narcissistic, don't you think?
This guy, is not a man. This guy has no balls, and is nothing like the man you would want. Instead of showing your man these stupid videos, try talking to them without whining at them. This is an example of whining. Phrasing things as if you are already on a higher horse without considering there's two human beings in the conversation.
1. Bare Minimum levels of intimacy and connection.
2. Equality & Shared Responsibility around mutual chores
3. Not to be overlooked or Neglected
4. Partner with integrity that they can trust
5.Mutual Respect
6.Affection
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Here's my non-negotiable.
I don't take marriage advice from known philanderers like "Jimmy."
Most of these guys getting thrown under the bus in divorce court aren't spineless cheaters dude....
Of course he would prioritize emotional validation over reality, the entire basis of his relationship is predicated upon her emotional convenience.
Why is it that channels like this never get the Thanos snap? We get it TH-cam, women are always above criticism.
@@beneficent2557 Lol...
I had a teacher explain to the class that, “men look at women all the time it’s perfectly fine”. He went on a rant to explain that it’s okay for guys to look at other women because that’s the “natural order of things” and when someone proposed what if a girl looks he said, “women don’t look because when they seek a mate then stay with that mate. And that’s why they get mad when men look” It was too much incorrect and unnecessary information for a 10:00 am history class.
"Women don't look" 😂😂😂 bwahahaha! Of course we look! And not to cheat, just to look. What? 😂😂😂 Delulu fella, what an idiot, he prob don't know his wife is looking, too, because he is too busy looking himself.
Humans be thinking "men are visual creatures" like women don't have eyes, and as if in the rest of the animal kingdom it wasn't the males who pretty up to impress the gals. I'm honestly sorry we've been forced to settle for some mediocre dudes (and I'm not saying it cause I'm superficial, but because women really be out here wearing their best colors and some mofos you can't even get to wash their hands after pissing, I mean, c'mon!).
When I was in couples counseling before I divorced my husband, the therapist said that men "don't even see the dirt" in a poorly maintained home, so they can't be expected to always know when to help clean it. I gave her the finger and him his walking papers and never looked back.
@gtaylor6937 very mature, shooting off the bird? What are you, in middle school?
@@ShadowSkyX In some cases, like this example of therapeutic malpractice, the bird can be the most eloquent response. If a guy were a firefighter, sharing a house with a bunch of other firefighters, all responsible for the upkeep and safety of their station - if he told his fire chief that he just can't see the dirt so he can't be expected to clean? He'd be on his ass in the street so fast it would make his head spin.
@@clairewest6336 Ha ha ha ha!! That is hilarious! And yeah, what do you think the remaining firefighters would be saying? "F**k that guy!"
Love these😂👌
“Don’t be an ass and know what a shower is” is as far as my expectations go at this point😂
"where are you hiding clipboards?!" 😂
Maybe its where he is hiding all those affairs he had?
(I sincerely doubt it was JUST one).
Its sad that nobody listens unless a man says it. If a women says it they will be called "overdramatic"
People listen when it comes from a man because men tend to be more logical / make sense.
@@POIUYTREWQ62😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 JOKE OF THE YEAR!!! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
@@POIUYTREWQ62with that bias set in mind, it makes sense doctors tend to overlook/ignore/minimize their female patients symptom and diagnosis in comparison to their male patients.
Good contribution in keeping that trend alive 😂
I think you're very mistaken. People don't even listen to men. If that were the case, a lot of the stuff that has been said these past couple of years or even decades would have stuck. People are just tuning each other out because it's not what they want to hear
@@MxS1996truth
Aaaaaaaand hes wearing a ring. DAMN IT!!!!
The thing is, that shit wasn’t ok. It did piss women off, they just didn’t have the legal right to leave. The world has favored men so much to the point that when women get a step up, it’s suddenly seen as “too much” like no, we’re just on the same level as you.
It's giving
'' how dare women not be oppressed anymore 😡😡😡''
alot of anger, resentment. what about men makes you angry at such a base level?
They're quoting someone, they themselves are not the angry ones. Notice how the Emojis are still within the " " ?
I am quoting the men lol, I meant that the men who say those words are the ones that are angry. Lol@@johnsmith-de3tl
1, i hate that only when men say this do others listen. 2, I'm horribly distracted by the awesome plant collection.
"distracted by the awesome plant collection"
Yep. The Word "enough" it's really unreasonable 🤭
Lol i love it. The last one really got me in the personal experiences 😂😂
I would also like to talk about how working was traditionally a man thing and household labour was traditionally a woman thing. In this day and age, when a woman works, it's the bare minimum, but when a man does the household chores, he's praised and seen as a king, even though... it's also the bare minimum. The bare minimum for being a functioning adult.
A continuing undercurrent is the magical "I did this all the time before I was married" pipeline. Yes, sir, I don't doubt you could do it before you entered a committed relationship. Remind me again how long has it been since you last had to do it. Before you could buy collars that didn't need to be starched?
Women have ALWAYS worked throughout history. The past was not like the idealised 1950's where the man worked and the woman stayed home. For all of human history women have worked.
@@fireandsugar2625 Yes exactly. Even when I bring up the fact that "who tf was running the society while men are at war" point, *some* men still don't listen.
Actually the "traditional" thing was both men and women equally worked to survive and keep their family alive. Society was more socialist (at least among the middle classes/peer groups) and communities supported each other. Both men and women helped with chores and doing work for trade or (eventually) money to get things that they couldn't get or make themselves from others.
The time period when men went out to work and women stayed home was just a blip in our timeline as humans. It's weird that that is called "traditional."
@@janiefkthey do that to make us fight amongst ourselves and cause more divide. The comment above saying that women working are accomplishing the bare minimum are really out of touch with the workplace environment because that's not true at all.
My bestfriend broke up with her 4 years bf because his mom thought she was "the type that won't do chores and hires nanny" and that she won't help him at the store (her ex bf owns a grocery store). My friend has a comfortable job, how dare they expected her to leave and start unpaid fulltime work at home *and* at the store 😂
Loool, "I believe that one is called 'affection'"😂😂😂
How can people be so selfish???? Making all those demands of their husbands smh
If you can't respect us, you don't deserve us. 🤷🏻♀️
We don't EXPECT so much more, We just dont ACCEPT so much less.
wrong
Definitely not even a good thing for it to be that way even if you're right. Start listening to men and watch what happens.
@@nathanmstroudare you listening to women? No, you just want to he in control.
@@jeremyeblack4987 B*tch, the reason why I learned all the shit that I know now is because I listened to women. Project onto someone else.
@@jeremyeblack4987 hold on, the fuck? You're actually disagreeing with this? Are you kidding me?? Do you have any idea how many women I listen to?? Think about what I wrote.
I'M CRYING. THAT WAS GOLDEN! 😂👌🏽