The State of Bezels! (2018)
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I can't wait for that one company to come out with a phone with bezels larger than the actual screen and be covered in headphone jacks
hahahahaha
YES omg.
UnPhayzable Yes. Plug in ALL YOUR HEADPHONES. Fuck you Apple.
Nokia 3310
UnPhayzable plastic screen
2 years later and my iphone 11 still has the same sized notch
@Kuziva Mubonderi laughs in galaxy s20
same dude
@Kuziva Mubonderi well 12 mini kind of has a smaller one but it’s a much smaller screen so you technically have more of a problem
That ugly notch 😭
And now, 12 aswell as 13. Sure size has changed *slightly* but it's still the same and nowhere near the leap other companies made.
Watching this video on a OnePlus 7 pro in July 2019. Seems pretty hilarious.
me too!!
Same
Same. I was about to comment the same thing. There has been a lot of innovation in just a few months.
@@coolbrotherf127 on the Android side of things yeah
@@diegodeanda2002 Cool, like that "10 layer liquid cooling system" that doesn't actually exist, the "8mp 3x zoom" that is actually just a 13 mp 2.2x zoom that is cropped, or how about that short battery time? Not to mention having a glass back even though it doesn't have wireless charging, the glass isn't anything great at that making quite possibly the most unnecessarily fragile new gen. smartphone out right now. Stop hating on apple because it is cool. I think I'm good on the OnePlus hype lol
Watching this in 2020 really shows how fast tech is moving
Watching this in 2022 makes me feel like his voice used to be deeper
@@snoopdoggthecertifiedg6777 yeah tru that... or maybe his microphone changed
I like the notch but I do prefer Samsung's way of compacting everything. But hell in 10 years all phones will look the same from the front.
Apple Hipster i give it 2 years
The Galaxy X will be the first phone to achieve a 95%+ bezeless design and it will happen without a stupid notch.
You think it's less than a year away!?
not yet. Now time for bending displays and maybe after this
Maybe we will have foldable phones
The Notch is like the Puberty stage of Phones
Dammitimmad no. It’s really not. The smartphone market is very much a mature market. I would say it’s more like the midlife crisis of the phone. Like it serves a purpose. it’s just kind of unfortunate.
The bulge
BlackNomad1 I agreed, we’re heading towards to the ultimate phone design. The last stage of the Smartphone era
BlackNomad1 actually, it is the puberty stage of smartphone THEN comes the bezel less AND THEN the last form is going to be integrated in our body 😁
Muhammad Alfudhail Just scared the shit out of me.
We were so busy asking if we could, we never stopped to ask if we should
Doctor Strange
I love that movie
God damn my mans a poet
Wise words my man
R/iam14andthisisdeep
I actually wonder how less bezel affects the screen when it’s cracked because you can have the point of impact on your bezel.
I honestly actually want to see Marques react to this video after 2019
I don't think we need bezeless. Very thin bezels on the top or bottom work just fine imo
CAHOP2401 right we need bezels
CAHOP2401 I agree, I don’t see why companies like Apple and Samsung are focusing so much on limiting its bezels when there’s other things they can implement into their phone.
StickMasterKai “trendy, fashionable,...” and they don’t make much money from minorities such as yourself
I'm from the future... Hah just motorise the camera
@@muhyadeen17I'm from the future... Hah just put the camera under the display
Apple will be like "Let's remove front facing camera this year"
"Innovation"
They'll make you pay extra if you want to have a front facing camera
I'm sure a lot of people would be fine with not having a front facing camera, personally I have no use for it so having it as a 'pay extra and look slightly worse' option could be a good way to go
Removes lightning port because wireless charging is the future. (;
Fuck 😂😂
I think iPhone 12 is gonna ditch the front camera and say "not having the front camera is the future"
Texagon i actually think it is a good idea
Not for everyone tho
Texagon yeah, thats why phone makers didnt ditch the front camera
yeah possible , wireless seamless front camera, may be they will come up with front camera dongle🤣
Good. Fuck Instagram and IG bitches.
Marques : 08:00 " shrinks a lot"
Apple: So you thought
"Push me to the edge , all my bezels are dead" - IO tour Life
Mookery XO*
Hilarious 😂 bro
💀💀💀
Nuno Herdeiro you don't get it
Lol
I don't see what the fuss is about bezel-less phones. Is having a thin top bezel to house the camera, sensors, and speakers a real deal breaker? Seriously, this has got to be the world's greatest first-world problem.
its just a way of making your bezel phone look old, so you upgrade.
Producers are searching for new reasons for us to upgrade our perfectly functional phones. TH-camrs and journalists are searching for a new topics to talk and write about. That is how we came to this new bezzel less hype.
Tech is always advancing at an extremely fast rate. Also realistically I genuinely see this having been to the third world countries. (Not that the world needs technology by any means of course as anymore it's an addiction to most than a benefit at times especially in the first world countries.) There is more technology in third world countries than most people honestly would expect though. The faster that first world countries advance in technology. The faster that technology can decrease in price to reach third world countries. That's not just with phones and tablets though, but with important tech for those countries like medical, educational, and food sustainability.
I'd say that it's incrementing at an extremely fast rate these days. How different are current smartphones from the first iPhone?
Id agree to an extent. They are not drastically different but a lot of it is specs based and improving the design of the rounded rectangle's most phones are now. That's purposeful for most smartphone makers though and tech as a whole, why big updates year to year are rather incremental because they don't want to waste all their "new" ideas all in one year. Also just the fact it's statistically proven people as a whole across all countries no matter who they are don't like change. People like similarity and the comfort of normal. So changing too much makes people gravitate away from whatever it is. To some people that change is getting new technology at all whether they hate it or just the country doesn't have the capability to access it. Which is why country to country it's so different. Smartphones overall are a very small niche in technology as a whole too. On top of that it's primarily a consumer based market, so it sees updates the slowest. That's why right now things such as drones are finally considered being used by businesses in consumer applications as well as being used by consumers. While farmers and other industries across the world have used drones and a ton of other tech for easily over 10 years. There are farmers now finally in some impoverished areas are using drones or iPads and gps or a variety of other technology for farming as the cost is finally reaching their budget to overall improve on their capabilities. That's just one example.
damn it man, water that poor plant
2 years later, iPhone is still using the EXACT same design.
Insert name HERE it’s a great design
cashh_fetishh true
@@mrnigga3429 for them I guess and the apple fanbois. Really hope they go with a full screen phone with no notch. Just the front camera in th display like other android phones did orr the pop up camera
COMMENT WAR they are trying to
@Goofy Laws isheep? what a creative name
"Hopefully it's just a phase" - any parent ever 😂
In a few years we're just gonna be walking around projecting holographic screens.. Hopefully they'll still have headphone jacks
UnPhayzable next it’s no screen on a phone at all. AR glasses or contacts.
"chip in your brain" Now you went too far.
LOL.......but it would not be a phone
No, i really doubt the look of the hologram would be as good as a normal display.
UnPhayzable I
Love how your plant changes with the season.
Anyone else doesn't really hate bezels that much ? I would personally prefer great front facing speaker with bezels then loose feature and pay more for bezelless.
front facing stereo speakers (top and bottom, not same side) would be the best possible scenario for media consumption
Same here, I love my iPhone se
U r 400% correct
I am typing on a J1 2016 that have bezels, love them
Small bezels are so much better.Mostly because now you can fit a much bigger screen into a smaller phone. We would’ve had to carry a huge iPhone 7 Plus to get barely 5 and a half inches of screen. Now we can carry a compact phone with a much bigger screen
talking about an earpiece as if people still make calls on these things smh
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Cyranek Sup Cyranek love ur vids homie
True
Seeing this vid again after 2yrs is like taking a stroll down the memory lane
Nobody:
Apple:You Have To Buy A Dongle To Get A Front Facing Camera And It's Starting At 180$
Watching on iPhone X with marques’s forehead chopped off, progress ye!
Jack 1 why did I read foreskin XD
Don't troll here... Get a life
Only good feature about it
that is a lie. the aspect ratio of this video is 16:9 so either you watch it landscape which fills the screen but the notch would cut into either side or you're watching it in portrait with huge pillar boxes top & bottom. (FYi, not an iphone fan. Hate them)
just watch in 16:9 ? why zooming in with an OLED where everything else is just black...
We don't need zero bezels. We just need minimized bezels. S9 design all the way.
Matthew Joynt true. We don’t NEED it. But why settle for minimized when bezelless is perfect. Humans have never settled when it comes to improving tech
Cvllen Because bezelless displays mean compromises need to be made elsewhere in the phone's design. If no compromises are needed, fine, but I'm not sure that's possible.
thank you for being one of the few reasonable intelligent people. don't get the obsession with getting rid of bezels completely for ugly notches and no fingerprint reader.
You mean S8s
iPhone X has the less bottom bezel than S9. They’re both my favorite.
It’s Kim PhD guysss
MKPHD
😂😂😂
Like why the fuck wouldn't you take technological advice from a guy who reads texts on the side of a box to make a living
Hi Kim
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Why is no bezel better? Is it an assumption that it is better? I have never once thought about bezels until people started telling me I should think about it.
Yes, leave our bezels alone.
The less bezzels it has, the more glass there is.. The easier for it to break and just buy new replacement parts from them lol
@@MultiSilko This is the dumbest thing a ever read. BEZZELS ARE UNDER THE GLASS.
Ow, i guess i can't deliver my point to you lol but okai
rAs - lol
Fun fact: A Chinese company is making a phone with the front facing camera behind the display. How it works is that the pixels(pixels are transparent in front of the camera) in front of the camera stop working when the camera app is opened then the pixels let the light pass through them to get to the sensor
link please. i want to see this
What's the company? I'd like to see it conceptually at least
Name?
thanks but could you provide a link please
[citation needed]
Samsung’s design looks ideal to me. Getting a near perfect screen to body ratio is fraught with compromises and a clear case of over engineering. I would prefer a better camera sensor and better battery tech over a bezel-less design.
It's like smartphones hit puberty
Yeah their bezels dropping
No they hit the pinnicle...no where else to innovate
@@Matanumi foldables and holographics.
peuberty
peuberty
dog what sorcery is going on at 8:13
Jacob Magnuson BOI
more weight on top part of phone changes center of mass
@@dudebro1249 not THAT much
play town of salem id say its the magnets on the back of the phone
I rather have bezel than the notch.
than*
Right? A slim bezel just at the top, is far less intrusive than a notch obscuring part of your images/videos.
A Boy Has No Name but in return I get a perfect viewing on all side and not something protruding into my screen.
A Boy Has No Name same thing with notch
A Boy Has No Name but its still perfectly viewable and non intrusive and the notch crops out part of the image so you actually get less of an image than with the bezels of the s8/s9
This video was top notch! 👌😆
tishzman i'm so happy someone made this joke😂
Bicc OG it's a joke, not a dick, don't take it so hard
lol beat me to it
Okay you had your moment now get out
tishzman just awful
It's not the future ,it's not even a feature 😂😂😂
Just ask yourself these questions: Will your life be palpably improved if the phone manufacturers do manage to develop the technology enabling them to remove the bezels, notches and chins from smartphones? It's little more than aesthetics. Wouldn't you prefer to have bezels that house a front facing camera of equal quality to the rear camera. Front firing speakers that don't have to be compromised by the misconceived notion that we need to have bezelless screens? The manufacturers are reacting to the popularity/views of online videos. The smartphone owners and potential future buyers, are also being influenced by the same online videos, that are produced by the channel owners, that make content, according to their historic channel analytics. I personally would preferr to have a notchless screen, an uncompromised front facing camera and an optimum quality front firing speaker/speakers, housed in the bezels of a phone only 10mm bigger overall, wouldn't you?
Aukash Kalyaan 😂😂😂 exactly
2 years later and there are in screen cameras
Just do that meizu thing and put a little screen on the back, that way you'll only need a single camera, the back one.
Daniel Gonzalez I think this is a good solution. The smaller back screen could be used for a lot of other things as well.
Though it seems with transparent displays I am sure they will just figure out how to put everything under the display.
How to video call then?
Tyler Pestell you mean translucent?
Daniel Gonzalez that will require a folding screen to work as we want
The back cover can simply just be transparent. Like from JerryRigEverything
RIP Stephen Hawking
Ray He was a revolutionary man
I Am Sekou hope you're joking
Casper Barens he's not 😥
I Am Sekou lmaaoo seriously
Ray :(
Noo :{ I like the Bezels for a few important reasons. I've had several of the Samsung phones, S6 edge, Note 7, Note 8 S8 + and that no bezel on the sides doesn't work for me. The palm rejection is real hit or miss, more miss than anything. When I hold the phone in landscape I am blocking the speaker as there is no where to hold the phone.
This is another reason I gravitated to the Pixel, larger bezels and something to hold.
I don't agree with putting sensors, mics and speakers on the top or the bottom of the phone (to replace the front) because again, my hands will block them (I can hear Steve Jobs in my head saying "you're holding the phone wrong").
I honestly feel the "no bezels" is just a "thing" today for manufactures to say hey we do it better. But it isn't better. I want a little bezel, a place for my hands, no bezels are great nor screens that you don't hold like a TV on the wall or a laptop, desktop, thermostat etc.
I really want those bezels coming back in vogue with manufactures so these hand held devices can be hand held again. Even when palm rejection is mastered, I don't want to cover part of my screen because there is no bezel.
Perhaps I am alone in this, I would rather have the 2 sizes to choose from, one crazy big, and one pocket friendly. I'll still buy the crazy big with some bezel :)
Yeah the Note 8 detecting touches on the side of the phone just from me holding it happens at least a couple times a day
Me too, I hate those small bezels and big notches, just for a bigger screen. I rather have a big, bulky and heavy phone, as long as it has a big Battery, good speakers, a headphone jack,...
I would go as far, as to print a extra large phone case, witch adds weight and bulkiness with my 3d printer
Bezels also take away one super-important feature in my opinion. The front-facing stero speakers option. I would much rather have top and bottom bezels to accommodate actual front-facing stereo speakers rather than having full screen-body ratio and compromising on audio, sensors, camera and UI. This is why I love the RAZER phone. Yeah sure its big but it's function over form on this one. And that's the most important thing.
Well, there is something called iPhone 8 and 8+ if you want bezels. It is a new phone with killer specs that outperforms all phones out there today in most areas. The headphone jack is pretty much dead but they do include an adapter. The W1 chip is really good and the battery life on Beats Solo 3 is really long.
That's why i stick with china phones
Oh man I remember this all like it was yesterday. It felt like the bezels were neverending for the longest time, then one summer a flurry of Chinese phones came out that just eliminated the bezels entirely, completely out of the blue. I remember the hype of mechanical front-facing cameras that would slide out the top of the phone, just these insane concept phones. Then the S8 and iPhone X came out, and in a sense that was the birth of the contemporary smartphone. Wild times.
I am willing to have a slight bezel like the note 8...a bit of a bezel is no big deal + that notch looks annoying on the iphonex...and don't take my ear phone Jack bro😤
USB-C and Lightning are the future of mobile audio. Both offer much better sound quality than a 3.5 ever could with the poor DAC's inside of phones that power 3.5mm headphone jacks. Especially with external DACs. An external DAC on lightning or USB-C can offer audio similar to like a live studio recording or properly recorded concert.
As well as bluetooth 5.0. Which is like across the board like massive improvements over 4.2 LE even. Better range, better connection, better quality all around.
"USB-C and Lightning are the future of mobile audio. Both offer much better sound quality than a 3.5 ever could with the poor DAC's inside of phones that power 3.5mm headphone jacks." The future is not decided by you. There are really good headphone jacks out there and people might take the slight loses in quality over a lost adapter any day. Especially those that aren't Hifi enthusiasts.
Bluetooth 5.0 is a different story. It is nice to have.
Dylan All right all of you, name ten headphones with a lightning or usb-c connection. Don't worry, I'll wait.
In my opinion if you are gonna take away the headphone jack you SHOULD include some wireless earphones in the box. So that I don't have to spend MORE to enjoy my phone's capabilities to the fullest.
Dylan I would be fine if they had two USB C ports.
We don't want notches? *AGREED!!!*
Soulful agreed but rather have that then smaller chins on the top or bottom.
Soulful tbh it's not that bad :/
corporatestatusbrah small bezels on top and bottom like the Samsung s8/s9 is better than an annoying notch on the top, that's just my opinion.
E1N i have the iPhone 11 Pro Max and I agree with you because when you notice it while you’re using your phone, it’s annoying but most of the time you won’t notice it, but I still find the small chin and small bezel better than a notch
Yeah android should remove their notch and chins
*laughs in 2019*
I have the samsung s10 for context
*laughs in 2020*
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@SideFire laughs in 2021
Marques should really consider making a second part of the State of Bezels, keeping in mind the rapid bezel-less innovations that have transpired after this video.
Do another video on the state of bezels now because we have so much more technology now.
This Video is "Top Notch"
The funniness of this comment is "bottomless"
😂😂😂
Yusuf Hossain like noone has ever said that joke before X.x
Purum tss
That pun tho
Watched this on the mi9t, with both an under screen fingerprint reader and popup camera. Got it in 2020, still going strong
This video is 2-3 years old now, iPhone 12 series have been released around 3-4 months ago, and they still haven't solved the problems you mentioned in this video, because they pretty much have the same design, but android world, man ... zte axon has even solved the problem with under screen cameras ... world has been changed a lot. btw, today is January 2nd. Happy new year (2021)
8:17
I would never keep my phone like that...
What the hell bro! Its literally flying and nobody noticed that! Fuck the notches and bezelesness, we want flying phones! The future is here!
Everyone was too busy asking how but nobody really asked why. Having bezels on the top and bottom gives you a place to actually hold the damn phone without touching the touch screen. Bezeless designs are a highly impractical for a very small gain in image size. And the fingerprint sensor on the front means you can look at your phone while it's lying on your desk without having to pick it up.
That's my opinion too. What do you gain buy having a notch? It looks like only the time and battery status can be shown up there on the iphone. The small amount of screen gained is not really worth the awkward design. I like Samsungs designs for bezels. If they put the finger print reader on the screen that would be ideal. I prioritize almost every other aspect of a phone over the bezels, big, small, notch or not.
YESSSSS
thats why samsung have the face reader isn't it?
this. same here.
I’m honestly a big fan of the notch, the iPhone X and Xs are, in my opinion the most premium and modern looking phones on the market thanks to their choice of materials. I currently have a samsung phone so I am far from an apple fan, but I can honestly say that I prefer the design of the S7/S6 to their new S8/S9 shape.
how can you be a fan of the notch? this is not a rethorical question, I mean it for real. Do you mean you're a fan of the X and the Xs and thus do not mind the notch or what?
Essential's implementation is nice. Literally everyone else's implementation is completely stupid.
With Essential, the camera looks like an icon on the status bar. With everyone else, it looks like a part of the screen was cut out.
Alexandre Botelho is part of the screen cut out or was the screen extended into the top bezel?
What I commented is that it *looks* like part of the screen was cut out. Whether it's technically a cut out or extension doesn't really matter lol
That's true, but essential just wanted to accommodate the front facing camera and Apple literally had to put a a bunch of sensors in there to make the FaceID work, making their notch quite large. I'm just pissed at people who are just copying Apple blindly, it's like their company doesn't really have a design philosophy of it's own. They just wanna make their devices look similar to a popular device out there.
I creates tech contents in a different style. If you can spare some time please do give my channel a look.
Maybe, but Apple was always thought of that company that doesn't implement tech until it's truly ready. They've compromised their design by letting the technology show through.
I like that a few years ago no one cared about bezel and now there is a big war over who can have the most bezel-less smartphone.
WOW I WANT A PHONE WITH THAT MOTOR SELFIE CAM!! Whenever an app is spying on me, I will know. I take so few selfies that I almost never use the selfie cam anyway, and if that design went mainstream, then people would look more idiotic than they already do taking selfies and that's another bonus. (this comment is actually serious)
Jousboxx lmao
OMG THIS
You do realize that companies still need to build a hidden profile of you, to serve more intrusive ads then ever before and maybe even blackmail you when you get famous? that is the main reason the front facing camera is there and always on, looking, detecting when you are naked and snap a vid or two. front facing camera for selfies was just an excuse. they literally want all the money they can possible suck out of you. (i know this is slightly exx but privacy is more valuable then just "we promise we wont record you")
Thank gawd, Android P doesn't allow apps and processes in the background to access either camera or microphone. I don't think a motor is the best idea since it could probably break more easily. It'd be cool to be able to pull out the camera like a viewfinder on small Sony cameras. Maybe less elegant but maybe more efficient and less prone to failure.
one word... Durability
Honestly I love the infinity edge on the S8/9+ it's really immersive when you just stop to look at it
Notches:
Not a feature.
Not the future.
Just a phase.
I don't understand this... phones are becoming more and more unpractical, this whole bezel thing is just stupid in my opinion, you get so much diminishing returns to push that millimeter of screen more that you need to spend so much on technology, research and manufacturing that i don't see the point, all this will do is give you a bit more pixels to hold in hand. And that the thing hold... so many phones are now extremely difficult to hold, they are so thin and so big, everyone I see have protective/grip cases for their phone, not to mention battery life, I'm still rocking LG G4 and I don't see any need to upgrade at all... Oh yes i must buy phone without bezels because 1 millimeter of screen will make a difference, well it will in your wallet.
Thank You!
Yeah, nothing of note has been added to phones for at least 5 years.
TheDragonfly256 ok
Well some of us love beautiful displays. But you are right, phones do not need to go full bezel less. However, I bought the Galaxy S8 because its screen looks incredible. It just feels so good to watch videos or play games on it, while being much cheaper than the iPhone X. Another important upgrade for me in phones, is the camera. But my next upgrade will probably be depending on if the phone has a fingerprint reader underneath the screen or not (for convenience).
Smartphone makers want to innovate because innovation sells phones, at some point these new screens will have the same price that current screens have.
At the moment I rather have a small top bezel like the S9 and not have to deal with a pop-up camera or one in a weird place.
Völundr Frey Actually a popup camera is the worst thing because it needs extra space for the case and mechanism behind it
Tom Lademann the phone would be thicker and heavier and also new things that can get broken.
Tom Lademann go and checkout the Vivo apex prototype. It looks gorgeous
At least you'd be able to know when an application is taking pictures on the front side of the phone if the camera moves up from the inside of the phone
iPhone 12 and still with the same design
Its flat in design now and different camera design
iPhone 13 smaller notch
I thought VIVO only makes camera phones for selfies 😂😁
TH-cam Addicted The Selfie phone are just for Fooling Indian people.
In their Main Market (china) they Have Pretty Damn Good Phones Like One plus And Mi
Fucking vivo
Moon light selfie 😂😂😂👈
😂😂😂 me too
Nihar Asari Oneplus and mi are not owned by Vivo. Yes, Vivo and Oneplus are under the same owner, as well as Oppo. But they're all their own things. Xiaomi is a totally different company.
State of bezels: Every company except Samsung is copying Apples notch.
Apple was the one that copied..
A Chinese phone maker had already made it 6 months before iPhone X came out.
While The Era Of Notches Began....
And I use a 70$ Chinese Phone that has 50% Screen To Body....
And it still is cause mine's Quad Core....
lmao the dual core A8 is probably stronger than your quad core
Ahem....well... it's SnapDragon 820 suck'a!
mrwhotheheck • a $70 phone has a snapdragon 820? What phone is it?
OnePlus 3....
Found it on eBay for 70 bucks....and it's an year ago....
Watching this on my Nothing Phone(2) with an almost bezel-less display. We got there.
My redmagic got none
I feel in order to have a complete bezel-less display....selfies are gonna have to go bye bye.
NintendoNerd I don't mind, it not like I use the front camera
selfies are stupid to begin with
the notch is puberty
To me it's simple, put a second display on the back that's 1/4 or 1/3 the phone, so people can use the rear camera for selfies and video calls. You could also use it as a secondary flash for selfies since a bigger light source produces softer light. You could even have a number count down if you are taking group shots. Plus there would be tons of 3rd party options for this. We just need to rethink why we need a decent selfie camera on the front when there are amazing cameras on the back.
One could even think further and reduce said screen on the back to a tiny OLED display. With the current advancements in AI, it could show how many faces it detects on the viewfinder and whether any of them are cut off. We do have phones with wide angle lenses. I would personally love to have 2x2cm OLED screen on the back of my phone that doubles as an AOD and notification light.
Thumbs up if you would rather have S9 bezels than a notch
Nah
I have xs and u don't notice the notch
@Luka Cherriman Disgusting? Come on buddy grow up
I would like some bezel for my fingers to rest around the edges without hiding the display. So don't make entirely naked, I mean bezel less
In the next 50 to 60 years, watching this video will make those future kids laugh so hard😂😂😂
They be like : dafq is a bezel?😂😂😂
Not only that, but they will be like "what is that weird rectangle all these old people are talking about?" I don't think in 50 to 60 years smartphones will be in this form factor anymore.
awkward phase... like puberty?
phat nutz in a nutshell yes😂
Puberty was never an awkward phase tho.. it's only like the best phase ever?
Vic Speaks Nope, it's awkward as fuck.
Vic Speaks ...Said noone, ever.
Zeayo Logic implying Vic Speak is not anyone?
I loved this video. It's my favourite video of yours this year! It's been a while since you made a video focusing on the hardware, rather than the hardware as well as the software. Keep up the good work, MKBHD!
I'm not against 100% bezel-less, but please please don't make the smartphones any more gigantic. I like to see a phone the size of an iphone 4 again with todays latest specs(or even midrange i.e. sd600 line) and with at least 90 to 95% stbr. (of course keep the headphone jack with a good dac, decent batt and good ppi) (another bonus for dual front facing speakers and backmounted/side fingerprint sensor)
Marvin Fernandez YES!!! I too want the phones to be small like the iPhone 4 again!!! I've been saying this a lot in the last few months. I really hate holding a big phone.
I'd buy a 7 inch Android smartphone lol only to use it for entertainment of course.
I don’t completely agree with you, but I do agree that we need an iPhone 4 or 5-sized bezel-less phone.
iPhone se? Maybe a future iPhone se
youre basically descring xperia xz2 compact
What about a phone with nothing but bezels?
Christopher Johnson that's just a piece of glass
Mandalada its a smart piece of glass
Samsung way is the way...at least for the hardware.
Druv yeah I prefer the Samsung look as well
The notch isn’t bad at all
Mateo12485 the notch is notch needed, foh
My bruda
Mateo12485 Maybe for you but for me, it is a bad design choice. I would rather like the practicality of a hindrance-free display than aesthetics of 'almost' bezeless display.
It's kind of an oxymoron to say "Hey we introduced the notch to the phone to give you more display." I rather see it as introducing a notch to the display that wasn't there for decades, only to decrease a few millimeters of height from top of the phone, which is dumb.
I love your videos man, keep up the excellent work.
Is it a sin watching MKBHD not in HD?
Yes... yes it is.
If so I need to confess MKB480p
Rude!!
You have to watch it in at least 1440
TH-cam has a dark mode now!!!
Tim Sigler WHERE???
Tim Sigler the website has had a dark mode for a few months at least. I'm waiting for the app to get it
Tim Sigler really?! The android app?
Do you know how he got the dark Google widget as well?
On iOS starting today.
I don't think of it as a notch I think of it as a screen extension.
Glass half empty or glass half full. The notch is only ugly to those that see it as a glass half-empty. To the millions of others who bought the X, it looks beautiful. In fact, it wouldn't be Apple's #1 selling phone and #1 selling smartphone on the market if the notch bothered most people. Compare that to the Pixel 2, whose sales numbers are laughable in comparison to the iPhone X's sales, lol. Not to mention Google's lack of direction and brand confusion. (I.e. laughing at Apple for removing the headphone jack, then removing it themselves on the Pixel 2!). Android sheep will always be sheep.
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potato potato potato potato potato potato potato wise words coming from someone whose name is literally 7 potatoes
Well, taking things positive is a good thing. And Apple adopting it isn't really the issue here, it's more about others adopted it just because Apple did. This blind following idea is suppressing other creative ideas that the employing came up with, basically killing off creative ideas because these top company officials want their phones to look like iPhone or a Galaxy to boast sales and to attain short term benefits.
@ElementalFluttography And iPhone X isn't Apple's #1 selling phone, it sold the highest in the Q4 2017, just like all other iPhones did before, compared to iPhone 7 the overall sales dropped.
I do tech videos in a different style. If you are into tech videos please do give my channel a try,
Hold the phone in landscape with a movie playing in fullscreen. You are not extending your screen, you are cropping it. and that too in the worst way possible.
I really like MKBHD for putting quality above quantity and not stretching the video to above 10 minutes if it's not necessary.
4 years later iPhone 13 still has a notch 😑
R.I.P Notch
2017-2018
I really hope you are right about this.
What a stupid fad... instead of chasing the no-bezel nonsense manufactures should focus on improving battery technology.
As far as i know Samsung is the only company working on improving battery technology.
Very true
True
I wouldn't call it nonsense. It is important to many people in terms of "style". I do agree that we should to work more on battery. Man we just need move away from lithium...
you know that manufacturers have to forecast the demand on consumers right? manufacturers cant just improve something if the consumers didnt want it. the profit to development and changeover cost ratio is too low. the notch is "popular" to manufacturers because it is easy to create that notch. just shrink the bezel and keep small fraction to keep the front camera and sensors. while its development cost is low, the consumers want it. so its because of the consumers who right now dont want that improved battery life, but rather a notch.. and bezeless
Another great scenario worth mentioning is how Huawei P20 give freedom to its users by giving option to hide the notch. This is a very useful and smart move to adopt nowadays.
s9 review probably gonna be out in 2020
yeah .. been waiting for it too .. :-/
I Literally Came Out Not Too Long Ago....
God forbid a person actually tests the phone for more than 5 days.
its been a while it should have been out by now
Heel Toe Exactly
We've gone through this phase with the thinness of the phones a while ago. It was a big deal to make the phones thin, but now it just does not matter anymore. The similar thing will happen with the bezels. After some point, companies and consumers will not obsess over it later on.
Seems like that isn't the way it's going, maybe someday people will stop caring but right now those s20's look amazing
I remember when innovations was making everything smaller and more compact.
@Aran Rasekhi that's exactly what's happening inside of the phone while also aiming for larger screen size and battery size.
To be honest I really like the look of the smaller notches. Not the huge shit like the iPhone X but stuff like the LG and OnePlus. It really makes you notice the tiny bezels to the side of it, and it can be integrated with cool features like a blacked-out notch bar that still has all the status bar icons lit up. It looks clean, and moves those out of the way for more screen real-estate.
Marques: the iPhone way is aggressive..... its uglier
Me watching on an iPhone x:😱😱😱😱
Fuck you drama queen, nobody cares
2019 , first under display cameras prototypes , note 10 with a small hole in display for the camera an apple still with his HUGE notch..
When looking at how far the Essential Ph-1 went to remove almost everything from the front screen, leaving just the speaker slit and camera, what are your thoughts on options to getting rid of the front facing camera entirely and implementing small rear displays that enable the use of your dedicated rear cameras - an example being the Meizu Pro 7. Also just wanted to mention that enabling the top speaker to have two different audio channels is genius optimization that every phone should take advantage of.
Great description of the evolution and current state of bezels. past present future. Bravo
Can we? Sure! But SHOULD we? On phones with less bezel, my clumsy hands end up hitting apps near the edge and turning them on. Annoying on many levels. I hate the battery drain, closing the app, and being reminded of a medical condition I can't control. Boo.
Well, as long as the edges are properly square and not melting over the sides like Samsung does I'm fine with it. I like holding my phone by the sides, I don't like having to pay extra attention to not let my fingers slip from the sides to the screen itself.
Karl Ramstedt try one, you don't notice it...
Andrew Rodriguez ... I tried one and it was extremely noticeable. Absolutely hated it.
I don't want my phone to be harder to hold, if anything I want it to be easier to hold, because the screen sizes today require me to do quite a lot of shuffling to reach the entire screen one-handed. Making it harder to hold would only increase my chance of dropping it; no thanks..
Having apps run in the background doesn't drain your battery, it uses your RAM, unless it is actually performing some background task which requires CPU time (like image processing, video rendering, etc.). Which won't be the case most times since it requires manual interaction to start these tasks. So actually killing your apps repetitively will drain more battery because when you reopen that app, it will use CPU time to move things from your external/secondary storage to the RAM. I would advise against doing that.
Really? How so? I have a phone with edged sides and I have not activated not one single app from it by accident. In fact, the apps don't even sit at the edge, making what you claim impossible.
Also Samsung phones have a edge detection setting you can turn on to deal with such. But I've never needed to turn it on.
Either you have fat fingers you can't control, or you have some cheap Chinese edge screen phone knockoff.
Because the Galaxy is the only phone with an actual edge screen design and it has ways to prevent accidental touches.
i dont hate bezels at all. I find it more inconvenient to hold or interact a lot with a phone with small bezels. I have fucking big hands. I NEED THUMB SPACES.
You guys realise that the bezel also stops accidentally touching the screen if you got big hands or fat fingers right?
Legend 890 You could mitigate that in software with palm rejection like it’s often done on laptops.
Then lose weight
Fat fingers are genetics, any finger would obstruct a bezeless screen.
i like bezels on i phone 8 and below because of how nicely there implimented
Lol got "Mr mobile" ad !
(BTW I'm already subscribed )
Notches don't bother me really
Maybe if we stopped taking selfies, we could go truly bezeless.
Jeez, that shot at Sony though. Still, love my Sony Xperia XZ Premium and all its bezel
Marques' shirt looks like it has a Chevron logo with different colors on it.
that's what it is, think it's one of his channel logos, it's one of his new merch items
That shape is actually called a chevron.
Watching this in 2020 on a phone with a pop up camera, and almost bezelles phone.