What The Next Sonic Game NEEDS...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Sonic the Hedgehog is going to get the next entry within the next 4 years and I wanted to talk about how they could build from Sonic Frontiers to make a game that excells on all fronts, and what I would change if I was in charge. Hope you all enjoy and thank you for 1k!
For Sega to actually give Sonic Team time to complete the damn games is what they need.
Agreed
I would love to see them go into a cel shaded style direction personally, and give all the character models a look to reflect how theyre portrayed in the comics (and the Murder of VN as shown). It's a very fun look and we've seen many developers make such incredible cel shading it almost looks like traditional 2d animation. SEGA once championed this with Jet Set Radio so they can do it again.
Yea the realistic theme just looks strange for sonic either cell shaded or something else
@@Scottishboy3693 I actually like the way Frontiers looks, but do think they could have done more to make it feel more consistent. You can keep the darker tone of color and the dreary pallet, since that was what they were going for, but could still add that hard outline and harder shadows. Kinda like how Borderlands while it has the "cartoony" shader style, still has that post apocalyptic look to it.
I want Tangle the Lemur be in the next Sonic game.
Same here
Apart from your opinion on artstyle I completely agree with your takes.
Thank You! What is your preferred artstyle then?
@@Daviron more of a Pixar/unleashed esque type of artstyle honestly, that'd be perfect
Dude Ian Flynn did not write sonic frontiers story but he wrote the character interactions
I agree 💯
The next sonic games i want to see are a third sonic storybook game, sonic riders 4, shadow the hedgehog 2 and other characters should get their own games too like silver, amy, rouge and Team chaotix
Agreedm
I agree
I somewhat disagree about the story, I thought Frontiers' tone with Ian Flynn was spot on. Despite going a bit overboard with the references and the last act feeling reshed, the serious and melancholy tone was something I quite enjoyed as well as the character interactions.
Agreed
When it comes to Story I really jus want only JP writers again. None of the Western writers R capable of writin the characters correctly. To clarify Flynn didn't write the story only the character dialogue. When it comes to gameplay ur suggestion on mixin the boost & Adv styles is exactly wut I asked for aswell & this OZ formula is perfect for that. Also the game needs a much more original story that doesn't unnecessarily backtrack characters or endlessly rip itself off in the "worst" way possible
Well then who did write the story for Frontiers?
@@harrisoncora4259 This was Sega/Sonic Team actually, he basically was given the general idea of what the story was, passed some ideas back and forth with them and some of his own ideas made it in, such as the Ancients being connected to Chaos, but outside of that, the main story was dictated by Sonic Team
You do probably know this but Ian Flynn only wrote the dialogue not the story
I did not know this but thank you for telling me that fact.
I did a playthrough of Sonic Frontiers on the Worst Possible Settings, and it made me scared for the future of this franchise. Granted, I still think Sonic Team can make a universally loved title because they've done so before. SEGA has given Sonic Team more budget, and the team has also been hiring for people to work on Sonic, so all Sonic Team needs to do is to take advantage of these things in order to make an experience that's right for all Sonic fans. I hope most of, if not all, fans are going to be pleased with the next project.
How did that playthrough go?
@@Daviron I'm making a video on it, so check that out if you want a more in-depth description/analysis, but I'll keep it brief here and say that it was one of the most boring experiences I've had with a video game.
@@CSTH1 the only time you are actually glad that the cyberspace levels have their own physics lmao
@@valletas Lol
Why does that make you scared for the future of the franchise..??
The problem with the writting is that the Ian is not making the story like the team was in the Muder of sonic he has to work with what sonic team send to him,with the cutscenes they are making in japan(problaby for the japonese script) and the direction they want to go while he does the america version trying to make the characterization right,the text not be just a translation,make the retcons work and fitting the comics and the lore of the world back to the main games. Not saying the writting does not have problems but if you read some the arcs and like the last annual for the comics he can do some amazing interactions.
What happened was Sonic team gave Ian Flynn the premise of the story for Frontiers, and he js wrote the dialogue and the script and stuff
Well whatever it is, hopefully it's good.
Oh ya for sure lmao
No playable Silver, NO FOCS for the next Sonic game.
i feel like the next Sonic game needs to have more references to older levels from the retro era of the franchise, make it more of an open world with a good amount of secret areas with hidden easter eggs or other cool things, actually give you the ability to play as other characters other than sonic and not just some some entirely new character that we're probably never gonna see again
Hey
@@spider13593 oh hey tulip
With how the ending of Frontiers was handeled, I think it's a time for a face turn.
My idea for sonic game. Sonic can get invisibility sheilds. High bounce shields. Metal sonic and fr robotnik bosses. 16 levels. 4 avts. Season chances in levels. 3d and platforms. 120 rings for extra lifes. Rings box wotth 20 30 40. Can chose how hard levels are like not as many rings More bosses. Lonher levels. More bad niks to kill.
Originality new level themes & optional playable characters is all I want in the next sonic game I really hope its not more rehashing and bland open worlds.
More Super Sonic beating the Super Shit out of bosses
True! I think they should also add more difficulty to those fights to make them more satisfying
@@Daviron oh definitely
@@Daviron
Watch out, if the fights are hard, people are somehow gonna turn that into evidence that Super Sonic is at his limit even though didn't even take Solaris seriously.
I would like the next game to have a more lighter tone than frontiers. Frontiers writing isn't bad but I just perfer a sonic story that's serious but also fun and entertaining.
Hopefully an actually good game is coming
Definitely lmao
Agreed, hopefully.
We already got one with frontiers, what's to say we won't get another?
@@bluefire9285 🤣
@@Terminal_Apotos ?
Can we get adventure 3? you know, the game we’ve all been asking for for the last 22+ years?
Who knows what next for sonic for some reason people say we might get a sequel to sonic frontiers while that is possible so it can flesh out more lore for the series I think it's highly unlikely
They should add a Garfield Kart minigame to the next Sonic game. Where's the Garfield Kart video, Daviron?
Lasagna
A game with momentum and boost would be nice but the boost doesnt have to be busted so u rely on it we also need a bit light in the the story cause frontiers story was a bit to dramatic tbh
I actually love Ian Flynn’s writing.
Momentum and adventure style gameplay are effectively contradictory concepts, seeing as momentum was for all intents and purposes nonexistent in the sa games. Building up speed was a matter of spamming spindash, momentum had no impact on movement or turning as you could do hairpin turns at full speed in midair, and stop on a dime. Unleashed and Generations implemented momentum far better than either of the sa games.
Great video for the next 3D Sonic I have to agree they should bring back the adventure gameplay because It would really work well in the open zone. For the story though I think they should keep Ian Flynn because Frontiers felt like more of acknowledgeling the past while moving forward and not only that I can tell they ran out of budget near the end of the game but I also would like to see the writing tone for the next game like the murder of Sonic the hedgehog because that really did well with the character interactions especially shadow. Another thing is I do like the idea of having both gameplay styles co exist you still have the open zone formula for the adventure games and then like Sonic Adventure 1 you go in the linear levels and you still have the boost levels. I'm definitely looking forward to newer aesthetics for the next game.
Putting momentum in the open world is a horrible idea.
Momentum is not coming back, why toxic adventure fanboys can't understand that.
Not only the boost is easier to develop games for Sonic Team, the boost is also an evolution of the formula.
Adventure fanboys keep clinging for 20 years for momentum to come back and they ruin the series and trash every boost game, this is so sad adventure fans needs to get a life.
And I know they're gonna add the spin dash in the next dlc update and I know for a fact it's gonna be the spin dash from Lost World and I know it will piss off all the adventure fanboys and they're gonna cry about it for Kishimoto on twitter 😂
The Sonic adventure games didn't have notable momentum to speak of. Games such as Unleashed and Generations have better momentum than either sa1 or 2.
@@snakey888 I agree, but unlealshed level design is so claustrophobic that you can't notice the momentum
@@os9077
No more claustrophobic than the level design in sa2.
@@snakey888 yeah SA2 is even more claustrophobic thats why SA2 is mid the only level that was good in sa2 waa city escape that's it.
Finally someone said it, I'm not big on his writing style either. It feels dissonant with the rest of the more serious sonic games. Nothing personal against him though. Better than the colors writing at least.
What's the song at 3:30. Sounds familiar
I actually liked the story I just wish the other character would be more relevant.
What’s wrong with Ian Flynn’s writing?
I liked the way he wrote the characters, but the story itself wasn't it for me. The callbacks and the story beats didn't add up to be satisfying in my eyes
@@Daviron I don’t know. I kind of liked the callbacks. It makes the games feel like they’re part of a bigger universe rather than one offs.
@@Daviron well I think the story is fine,considering that this game had constant revision maybe the story Ian write is a lot different than what he envisioned,I do agree that the reference and the name dropping can be sometimes out of the place and poorly executed,but I believe that Ian is a good writer and will take a notes on what work and what not work.
@@Daviron Well, that's because he didn't write the story, he wrote the dialogue, Sega/Sonic Team decided on what the story was, his only contributions were the dialogue between characters and light characterization, they made the main story, Ian filled it in, if that makes sense
I like his stories. Just like the zombot virus story. It was great
I feel like it had an amazing story but poor execution
Sonic 5 is next!!!
Maybe sonic adventure 3
@@enzo1673
Hopefully not.