World of Warships - Rogue Leader
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- In which RogueCheddar proves that he's the big cheese when the chips are down and I prove that there's no such thing as a bad dad joke.
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Thanks for posting my replay Jingles! I was absoultely shocked when the Mecklenberg failed to kill me and when the end happened....
And my name is a nod to John Cleese in the famous Monty Python Cheese Shop sketch. Sorry for the excessive zooming in and out
- it's a habit to prevent me from becoming too narrowly focused on a target I am zoomed in on.
🧀
that was a hard fought win, mate!
Well done! I bet your adrenaline was pumping a bit. You do the same thing I do and jiggle the mouse when firing.
no worries mate its my problem not yours, you play how you see fit, It looked to be a banger of a game,,,,, I like when Jingles say's the funny button
I missed who typed it in chat, but whether it was you or not...holy shit about summed that one up perfectly. 😂
Well done!
@@MrAcuta73 that was me. Lol. I couldn’t believe it and I mistyped it in fact.
Oh silly Jingles! Worcester class cruisers absolutely were built. Two were finished, Worcester and Roanoke, and another was laid down. The two that were completed served from 1948/9 to 1958.
Bingo!
Yeah, that was confusing to me as well.
He even did a video of the Worcester class and went into detail about their design and construction
I was going to say the same thing.
That's not what he said.
He said the US wasn't building the Worcester class when Argentine was looking for a new cruiser which they weren't and while the US proposed a Worcester class to Argentine they couldn't afford to have both a new ship built and the cost of all the production lines restarted from scratch as it had been shut down 6-12 months earlier.
That could've been a game of throws episode.
Thinking the same.
defo a game of throws lol
I was thinking the same thing. Even IF the Smolensk thought, "He's out of heals and is practically a one shot kill", he shouldn't have been waiting THAT close to the island. That's practically gift-wrapping a bunch of free citadels.
Agreed, with a possible twist of Rouge throwing by not healing when he can straight away.
Wasn't it? :-D
"The wreckage of a Smolensk always looks good"
;-)
The wreckage of a Moskva looks better ;)
@@matheusrondelleite8015 What kind of diving gear do you need to look at it?
@@57thorns Definitely not a DEI submarine
Jesus. Not popping that heal had me squeezing my mouse so hard I nearly broke it.
i squeezed my buttcheaks,,
The best part is that the heal ended up not mattering, the Smolensk whiffed his return shot and didn't get a single hit. He could have gone into that last fight with 1 health and still would've won.
"squeezing my mouse" I thought that was a euphemism for clenching your bunghole! Then I realised you're watching on a pc...
Missed opportunity to name this Rogue Won.
Worth taking down and re-posting just for that
Or just.... edit the title?
HOW IS THIS NOT A GAME OF THROWS EPISODE???!?!?!?!?!?! That Smolensk is SOOOO DUUUUUMB!
i was wondering the same thin
Smolensk: "I'm just gonna sit in the cap, in open water, broadside to whatever is coming for me. What's the worst that could happen?"
The consumable reload booster: yo dawg we thought your ship had too many consumables, so we added a consumable for your consumables
Um… Actually Jingles, Worcester wasn’t a proposal, it was a built in steel and commissioned warship of the US Navy. Two of them actually, Worcester and Roanoke. *shotgun pumps* errr… jingles please… wait… I’ll be headed back to the salt mines then…
He knows he's talking about the US proposing the Worcester class to Argentine but while they could afford a new ship they couldn't afford to have the full manufacturing line being brought back on line as well since the USN's Worcesters had finished construction a year earlier and workers reassigned or laid off.
Example the UK and other nations could afford to buy C-17's off the production line while it was running for the US but they couldn't afford to have the production line restarted after being shut down for a year.
2 minute mark “If there had been for example the Worcester class, which was proposed but never built” He’s pretty clearly being old and crap, not explaining that the argentines couldn’t afford it.
@@Ushio01 what the hell are smoking? He most certainly did say the ship was never built. Try checking your attitude at the door and paying attention.
@@Ushio01 The US never actually proposed any such thing for Argentina, though. In fact, the US actively discouraged various South American nations' ambitions to buy new cruisers, and even lobbied Britain to block Vickers from selling them such ships (and Vickers very much had designed quite a few postwar gun and gun-missile combo cruisers aimed at Argentina and Venezuela). Because the US didn't want a new arms race to wreck the South American economies and create potentially communist-leaning revolutions. Proving a pair of old Brooklyn-class cruisers each to Argentina, Brazil, and Chile was to tide them over so they wouldn't look to the Soviet Union to fulfil their cruiser ambitions instead. Argentina's request for a 3rd Brooklyn (the more extensively modernized USS Savannah) on the grounds that they were "obviously" the greater naval power than Brazil and Chile and thus should get a 3:2:2 ratio, was flatly rejected. There was zero prospect that the US was going to build a modified Worcester for Argentina.
As such, the high tiers of the Pan-America tech tree are complete nonsense, and presumably came about because after the divorce from Russia and Lesta Studio, Wargaming has a smaller and less experienced 3D modeling staff than they used to. And modifying the Worcester model to make San Martín as seen as easier than creating the Vickers Design 1124A cruiser (what Argentina actually wanted to buy) from scratch. The latter is a broadly similar design to Neptune, but not so similar that the hull model could be reused.
@@RedXlV The US didn't (doesn't) really give two shits about Latam going broke building ships (or going broke altogether). They happily tendered for at the very least the Argentine battleship bid 30 years prior, and even won that bid.
These naval arms races that did take place didn't render the ABC countries broke either. Argentina and Chile both engaged in an arms race in the late 19th century, which was brought to an end due to British mediation. The ABC arms race began when Brazil sought to rebuild its navy (by procuring two dreadnoughts) due to it being ruined by a series of revolts and the nebulous times immediately following the Emperor's overthrow. All of them more or less footed their first tenders just fine, though Brazil's counter-response to the Rivadavia class was killed by a downturn due to a collapse of its exports.
US attitude about naval parity among ABC nations... varied. It definitely sought to more or less reset and maintain it by going with a 2:2:2 ratio for the light cruisers during the postwar, but during the interwar years, it had attempted to lease a number of old destroyers to Brazil, which was met with strong outcry from Argentina due to self evident reasons. The Americans eventually abandoned that idea given a follow-up British intervention that had no interest in seeing destabilization down south.
As for the Soviets providing vessels... Doubtful. None of the regimes in the ABC countries were soviet-friendly (as a matter of fact, the Soviets tried to block Argentina from joining the UN), and even if that wasn't the case, Soviet shipbuilding had more pressing needs than trying to sell warships to ideologically hostile nations.
I'm getting an epilepsy episode from the way dave is handling the cam god damn
That ship looks awfully bow-heavy. As if a good wave would be enough to commence diving operations...
That Smolensk had a few choices on what to do and picked the worst one.
Have to wonder how many of his/her teammates were screaming to just run and let the time run out.
Then reporting him/her as a poor player afterwards.
That Smolansk must have thought he is immune to AP shells, that may be true for BATTLESHIP Caliber shells, but not CRUISER Caliber shells.
You did a history of the Worcester Class when the US light cruisers were introduced.
..never change Jingles🤣
San Martín, in English, is pronounce San MartEEn..... Just so we know. Excellent video, nice history lesson. All the best to you great overlord
Yup, it's Spanish, not French.
@@Wolfeson28 What, you mean there are two foreign languages? That's not really fair, is it?
4:00 looking at the minimap clearly the Petropavlovsk rammed the Napoli. With the angle he was sailing he would have come out on the "wrong" side of the island with a Großer Kurfürst, Stalingard, and Shikishima to keep him company. While the Petropavlovsk is a good ship that amount of fire power would have clapped him hard.
Ramming the Napoli was his ticket out of a hot mess.
Made the best of a terrible situation
@@timmyingelbrecht6977 or he thought that his stronk ship was made of Stalinum and that he would not take damage when ramming the Napoli... who knows?
The sound of that special consumable recharging on hits was like "ugh, the enemy broke my fucking optics on my jumbo again 😒.... Wait" 😂😂
I didn’t actually notice the zooming out and zooming in until I looked at the comments. Guess I’ve spent too much time in light cruisers😂
same
The people complaining are the ones who get devstruck because of target fixation.
As a DD main I concur I do that all the time in gun duels with my DD.
For me it wasn't the zooming, it was the shaking camera every time he was firing. I felt like I was getting motion sick.
This should of been a game of throws. This Smolensk omg
that camera flying around is driving me insane
I didn't even make it to 8 minutes. I had to give up. Can't see it finished
the way he jerks his mouse around while shooting is maddening
oh, but we _can_ see what happens around 4min near Charlie, just not why: they were facing each other bow to bow in spitting distance, Napoli turned east Petro turned north into her flank initiating the ram.
That's an interesting funny button
Thanks Jingles
good video
I started grinding down the Pan-American. CL line not to long ago and the funny button is really fun so long as you can aim. Another really fun thing about the line is that the T6 Italian design, the Almet Cochrane looks/sounds like the almighty cockrain
A funny button... in America, we call that a giggle switch :p
thanks for the giggle.
it's funny to see the zoom-tapp-out evolve to something similar as looking at a wrist watch. You do it more or less unconsciously, your brain doesnt really register the information and so you have to do it again right after.
I can only imagine, that Cheddar here is just as annoyed by that double zoom out he is doing all the time and my advice is:
you can train yourself to use the minimap in situations where the minimap suffices (which is most of the time). Like every habbit it takes a bit of conscious work, but it is absolutely achievable.otherwise well played.
Yeah, it is a habbit to prevent me from becoming too narrowly focused on my target. Partially since I use a mod that allows me to zoom in a lot.
@@TK-fk4po yeah, i know why you are doing it. Same reason everybody is doing or did it including myself. But even though you are doing a DOUBLE zoom-out, which would annoy the shit out of me (and makes the replay pretty hard to watch) - hence my comment ;)
So my point is, that there are a lot of situations when you know where all the enemy ships are (specially at the end of a battle or in smaller match settings like Ranked or CW) meaning no chance of surprises and there for no NEED for the zoom out as long as you keep an eye on the minimap.
Specially in n light cruisers the "incoming fire alert" helps a lot too, because it means you dont have to zoom out to see the shells and can simply change course, if you know - based on the minimap - who is shooting at you.
I found that to
A. be a lot less stressful
and
B. improve my aim and hitrate.
The zoom-out thing is really something you start doing in wows, when you play mostly by direct vision instead of using all the information the game offers. Nots aying, that you dont use the minimap-the end of this battle clearly is prove, that you do, but i#d say you dont use it to its full potential.
And as i wrote: it's something that tends to escalate and can be "trained" away.
oh and a last point: dont use mods - its a question of personal pride ^^
peace o/
Idk what's more annoying: the constant zoom out without any reason (when you are not spotted you don't need to worry about some BB sniping you, also you can right click and keep the zoom out) or the wiggle of the camera when he click to fire...
bro must have the heaviest mouse trigger known to man the way the camera shakes with every shot
How is this not a Game of Throws? All the Smolensk had to do to win is sail for J10. but instead they sat in the B Cap.
I quite like the Pan American CL Line. The funny button is quite potent if played well, but also punishes greediness in gunning when you shouldn't. It's just a shame a third of the line are completely fabricated Worcester clones that would never have existed under any circumstances.
why do we get surprised anymore? 😂
Holy shit, this ship is fun. Casualy played through the Pan-Ams on one afternoon after this video. The San Martin is like a better Radar Mino, worse on paper but so much better handling. My new favourite ship. Tier 7 and 8 fun as well. But tier 10 - chefs kisses.
That mecklenburg must be so mad they did so much damage only to die and have them sail off
Actually Jingles, the Armada Argentina got two Brooklyn class Light Cruisers, ARA General Belgrano (ex-USS Phoenix) and ARA Nueve de Julio (ex-USS Boise) of which the latter is in-game, the ARA Nueve de Julio also served a less than glamorous career after being laid up, during 10 months in 1976 her hulk was used as clandestine detention center were "disappeared" people (ie believed political dissidents) were tortured by the Naval Estabilishment Police during the "Dirty War" in Argentina, most of those people would later be executed by varying methods.
good game man. Great video.
satisfying to see 8 citadels on the smolenks in the last frame :)
“The Preussen can’t bow tank that.”
A 60mm icebreaker with almost complete frontal coverage begs to differ.
non-stop zooming in and out made this such a hard watch
That was a bloody good battle!
Cant wait to see the new Monty with the fun button.
why is he zooming out every salvo, my god
Good day to you Jingles, Rita, Hjusie, Akizuki and fellow Salt Miners around the world.
I'll bet the Smolensk player had some choice words after that.
I hope your test results are good news.
Scritches and treats for the girls please.
That's it.
🐈🐈⬛👑✌️🖖
"The Worcester Class were never built" Uh yes they were Jingles, Worcester and Roanoke...
Well actually, Jingles! .... Two of the proposed 10 Worchester-class ships were built and entered American service.
actually, up close the GK and Preussen (same hull) can bow tank the Incomp, they both have massive, 60mm icebreakers, with a tiny bit of exception right at the cutwater, and the icebreakers take up probably 75-80% of the vertical area of the nose plating
Torps on the Meck might actually have cost Rogue a ton of HP, if San Martin had been able to proc the funny button again by shooting the big dumb BB some more, the triple fire could have been put out immediately and the heal brought off cool down sooner, ready for the rushing CL. It didn't matter given the Smolensk's end of game choices but I love this F key, it can be so powerful to keep this line of ships in the fight.
Argentina also bought the USS Boise along with the Belgrano, renaming it Nueve de Julio (it's actually in the game).
I can go to sleep soon, meds are going to kick in soon, ( I hope ) till then here is wishing good wishes to all that watched this with me, Thanks.
Rogue leader from our fearless leader.
It's pronounced "San Marteen" for you English speakers. It's a Spanish surname and he is the biggest hero/most important historical figure Argentina has.
Decent candidate for a Game of Throws episode.
Oh Jingles, the Prussen is a Grosser Kurfürst with 18 inch guns as the only difference, meaning having a giant 40mm bow that can indeed tank 20in guns
"Holy shit" is right, that was an amazing ending.
It was all I could think to try to rapidly type!
Great match!
Little game of throws vibe here, Dk why that Smol didnt kit away with that kinda point advantage!
This could have been a game of throws because that last enemy ship most certainly threw pretty damn hard.
Wow! Just wow!
From Naval Encyclopedia "The last US conventional light cruisers
Technically a class of WW2 cruisers as they were laid down before the en of the war in January and May 1945, studied from 1943, the Worcester class were a planned replacement for the 1940-designed Cleveland class. The Worcester were much larger at 17,997 long tons fully loaded, as much as Baltimore heavy cruisers, but they inaugurated a brand new automated artillery -in fact they were built around it-. The war ended well before launch, the class was cancelled with just two completed -Worcester and Roanoke- and when commissioned they found little use but in the Korean War in the classic gunnery support role, being decommissioned only by 1958, after barely a decade of service. The class largely has been seen as a failure."
Great game
Acktually Jungles two Worcester’s were indeed completed :)
Woah! Early to a Jingles video without it being early in the morning! Guess it was worth it going to Japan after all!
Jingles if the Prussen is bow in the Incomprable wouldn't need to overmatch teh athwartships bulkhead it would just need to penetrate it...
You keep forgetting the Preussen has a heavy ice breaker that covers 99% of the bow, his mistake was angling at all in close.
Holy christ that Smolensk. "I'm 300 points ahead, let me just sit stationary in the closest cap to the last surviving enemy ship and wait for him to get here.'
Delete account, uninstall game.
This would quite easily have been a game of throws
Anyone else have jingles as a nice part lf fheir morning routine? Shits awesome
No one expects the Argentinian Inquisition!
Absolutely great finish!
Wow. Just wow.
Best wishes, Gnome Overlord!
Figures, WG would introduce a ship that argentina wanted, so they could have dual purpose guns, then they don't give the ammo for duel purpose...
Jingles being Jingles. As everyone knows the Worcester was built. This might have been a proposed design variant.
that was a fucking incredible game
The Smolensk choose the 3rd of 2 bad options.
"We can't know for sure who decided to ram" he says as the minimap clearly displays the petropavlovsk run straight through the Napoli which turned broadside in a desperate attempt at escape
A citadelle? on a smolensk! Impossible!!
Of course it's possible, if you take short-fuse BBs like UK or cruisers.
ummmm, actually Jingles, the Worcester Class did exist. The USS Worcester (CL-144) and the USS Roanoke (CL-145) were both commissioned in 1948 and served until 1958. I've actually seen what was the belt armor of the Worcester which is used as shielding for the particle accelerator at Fermi Lab in Batavia, IL. 😉
Clear "Game of Throws" here lmao
Stay safe mate.
🇨🇦 Vet(8 months older) 😉
Zoomfk101 this player gave me a headache :-) GG
Jingles, while it is true that the Incomperables 20inch guns can over match 35mm of armor, that also means you tend to get THE MOST OVERPENS OF ANY "battleship" in the whole game! Bigger is not always better less your willing to use your HE shells every so often.
amen to that, Jingles also overlooked that most of the Preussen's bow is armoured much more heavily that the incomparable can overmatch
@@Mithril_Antimarr Yeah its like... 50 or 75mm Ice Braker Plating.
Gun caliber has no direct impact on overpenetrations. The gun caliber could be a kilometer with ten billion meters of penetration at 12 km and it wouldn't overpenetrate as long as it had something like Minotaur's fuse time and shell flight characteristics.
Martín is pronounced Mar-teen not Mar-tan in Spanish which is the language spoken in Argentina.
I remember my Yamato actually managed to fend off an air strike (well, they where not targeting me first). I was full health. 1 plane that my aa shot down hit the front deck in front of the gun and i recieved 1 hp damage. XD
That's why I use RPF on my cruisers and DDs..
No spoilers 😁
"dual purpose" unlike the guns that only shoots AP lol
Had a brilliant game of Ranked throws to send you Mr J - 2 battleships vs 4 ships and 1 vs 2 caps but some reason all my replays have stopped working in December 2023!
Every new version of the game doesn't play older version replays. So after every patch, your replays recorded prior to it, won't work. ( Google is your best friend. )
Uh...Jingles, Worcester Class was built
Spectacular!
Although it can be fun, WoWs is getting increasingly silly with all the magic buttons that boost speed, reload, can see through islands, rapid fire your guns etc etc.
It seems that the majority of ships introduced into the game over the last couple of years are gimmick ships with magic buttons enabling the silliest of things.
What the San Martin did in this battle would almost seem like a cheat code in a lot of other games!
The magic heal button gets another magic button that gives the magic heal button more magic to keep healing !
This isn't a naval game about ships! It's a fantasy game based on magic!
It's not childish and silly at all !
;-)
World of Warships has always been an super arcade;y game with almost no focus on the ships
Exactly, as all GaaS Wows introduce new mechanics to keep the playerbase active. I understand that some of us don't like to constantly adapt, but WG cannot be blamed for doing what they are expected to do with the economical model they chose for the game.
what the hell was that smolensk doing just lying broadside open in the middle of the cap? like... c'mon!
Now you see me, now you don't! lol
thumbs up for the dad joke if nothing else.
Jingles!
You should take liberties and give names to the islands you care about. Then just use the new proper for name for the island
Dave, Dave, Dave and Dave.
That was an epic throw
I will never understand why people are zoomin in/out like that. Makes me seasick
To check what is going on around them.
@@TheUltimateBastich yeah I know but every .1 second is absolutely useless
I didn't even make it to 8 min. I had to give up. Can't see it finished.
@@necrosanctuson console it’s for the auto aim not sure if you guys have that though
It's infinitely more watchable than scroll-zoomers.
938 Jingles not 998.
I think he would do better if he go out full broadside against enemy BBs that you know they will over pen you. San Martin is not a passive ship it is a yolo ship. As long as you shoot, it will refuse to die.
Too bad the zoom in/out makes much of this unwatchable.
938 points on the scoreboard is what I saw.
roll back a couple of seconds. Before the Smoli got balansed, it was 998.
That's with the kill of the Smolensk deducted. Just before she was sunk, the score ticked up to 998 as Jingles said.
@@Schnittertm1 Ah - didn't take that into account. Thanks.
How do you throw that game so hard? Why would the Smolensk be that passive and just sit there when he knows where he is?
I havent played this game in months and the reason hasn't changed, the player base is terrible man.
Morning Jingles!
You lads remember when yamato scared people to death 😂 now days ur like oh just a yamato. Hell at the rate we are going i predict 25 inch guns will be in the game at one point
Fantastique!!!!
Things like the "Funny Button" are why I don't play WoWs anymore.
Genuine question : Why for ? Because it demands adaptation ?
@@gabysse Presumably because they wanted something closer to a warship sim rather than gamey magic.
@@boobah5643 WoWS was never that.
@@gabysse One gimmick ship is fine, two gimmick ships are ok. When there are as many gimmicks in the game as there are now you can't reasonably be expected to remember them all and the entire thing devolves into a sketch from Yugi-Yo with the other player screaming "Ah HA! You've fallen for my trap card!". You just get walloped in your BB like this by some light cruiser despite having done everything the game taught you for hundreds of hours was the right thing to do. What is worse is there is little feedback on what just happened, so you don't even know were it went wrong and why that enemy ship just pulled off something that should be impossible.