CRKT CEO UK Edition
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ย. 2019
- A one shot quick review of the CRKT CEO as loaned to me by Slick Slicers.
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"Can I borrow it?"
"No, fk off!" 😂😂😂
So disappointing that they changed the design so much for the UK version. No thumb stud and the blade looks completely different, really put me off buying it.
Agreed, so close, but I feel they missed the mark.
They didn’t , this model was made specifically for Hinnie Haynes as a uk legal EDC .
The UK - where the authorities are dead scared of their own citizens. You need a permit to carry the thumb stud version for Pete's sake!
@@zackbarrow1927 No rules as far as I know against the thumb stud. I think the rule against single handed opening is from another country. Of cause making lock knifes illegal to carry is just dumb.
@@psibug565 I wouldn't ask if I may borrow his pen though!
For America it has a thumb stud and a liner lock
Same here in UK. We can get both, I have both.
@@feralgrandad4429 which makes it even more confusing as to why theyd bother.
@@ShadrikEaston It's really not confusing. Locking knives are NOT illegal in the UK so can be bought and sold just fine. But you can't carry a locking knife around outside without having a very good reason to do so, hence we have a non-locking slower deploying version to comply with the regulations and allow it to be carried in the UK without needing a special reason to do so.
@@ShadrikEaston because people in UK wlll buy thousands of them
....that's why bother....Money!!!
@@SkonkBot Sounds familiar. In Germany we have myriads of absurd laws about how to carry what type of knife in which places.
But no big deal. Just give a quick call to your countries Department of the Interior before i. e. cutting out a slice of pizza 😉
Thanks for this comparison, exactly what I was looking for. Went with the boker, even though the CEO has the thumbstud where I'm at. Prefer the blade shape and wood on the wasabi cocobolo
Very good review. Gotta get me one of those.
I have never seen a CEO without a stud haha
Fake one probably, im in uk just ordered one from uk page of knives, got with stud. My hands are large they cover all handle, and i it works perfectly everytime.
@@MrGubovas That’s not the U.K. legal carry version. (3 inch blade, non locking.)
In some countries the thumb stud is for one hand opening which is illegal. I know here in the UK one hand opening knives are on the fence just now too.
Mate im crying at the can i borrow it no fk off comment 😂😂😂
I think it's a cool design if you're an office guy. I, however, am the direct opposite of an office guy lol. Thanks for showing this one. Cheers.
True, not very outdoorsy! Cheers -Al
The thumb stud takes a bit of time to master quick deploy but once you got it down pat works great
Man that's a nice knife I want one lol
It's running ball bearings nested in plastic. Took both these knives apart at the weekend. The wasabi runs a lot smoother. I'm considering grinding out a notch on the non nail nick side of the knife so I can add my own thumb stud as agree it would have been so much better with it.
Thanks for the info! Please let me know how that goes if you do it! Sounds like it'll vastly improve it. Cheers -Al
@@UKLegalCarryKnives Will do. Just need to find a file the right size so as not to ruin it.
It's like they can't be bothered to understand the knife laws for the places they make certain editions of knives... Just plain lazy and it definitely costs them in sales I'd bet.
Noticed a small protrusion on the other end of the blade when opened, you think there's any scope to grind down the top of the frame exposing a portion of that protrusion, thereby creating a (kinda) front flipper? Great channel btw 😊
Cheers! I'll have a little look when I get home and let you know!
Have had a look, you can front flip it at 3/4 open so it's absolutely possible! It'd be tight though, a fair amount of material needs to go and you'd need to take care, especially if you want to keep the pocket clip.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives great thanks for checking it out, may turn into a project! :)
@@mamoulian621 let me know how it goes if you do!
Thank you, man! Quick question, would you carry the para2 or para 3 around in UK? :)
thanks
Me, no, I wish it were legal and I know of some who do but I'm pretty happy sticking to the law as it is, at least we can carry! Cheers -Al
@@UKLegalCarryKnives damn, so many good knives are not legal and less threatening than others that are.. I have a dragonfly 2 and because has a lock is not legal to carry but is way less threatening than those two in the video... sorry the frustration :D
I have both thumb stud and when they released the ceo flipper I had to have it
this knife is confusing. they left double detent but removed the thumb stud that complimented it. they added the finger nail catch to open it, BUT they put it on ball bearings which is now pointless. I mean in its own right, it looks like a nice knife, I gifted my friend the US version with the thumb stud. I love the aesthetic.. but theyve neutered this version in a really WTF kind of a way. just making it non locking would of fixed all issues with uk carry issues. :(
You’re absolutely right about that thumb stud..
In your opinion mate what is the best "ceo" style uk legal knife that's got a fidgety flipping action, like the symmetry (already own) but in M390 or better? Cheers pal. Love the symmetry but want better steel and an even sleeker look
The best would likely be the M390 Wasabi on Knives & tools, I don't know of any others in this style with premium steel that are UK legal, there was also the wasabi Titanium & Damascus although the damascus is likely to be VG10 or such rather than M390.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives Great cheers mate, that was the only option i stumbled across also. Was hoping you'd shed light on my perfect edc blade 😂 alas I'll have to be patient
'is that a pen' yea 'can i borrow it' no flip off 😂😂😂
I have the flipper, brilliant knife and as long as you’re not out doing dodgy stuff and don’t give police a reason to search you then there’s no problem carrying it.
I was definitely being overly cautious with the flipper warnings, it appears to be fine.
Are thumb studs legal ?
Are flippers legal?
Thought that one hand opening here in blighty was illegal.
No, flippers have very recently this year become a grey area unfortunately, thumb studs are completely fine so long as it doesn't lock and is under 3 inches cutting edge, for details see: th-cam.com/users/redirect?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.legislation.gov.uk%2Fukpga%2F1988%2F33%2Fsection%2F139&redir_token=e_xBPu6vl1EQsotKpe56bcZoiwp8MTU3NzQ5NTc1OEAxNTc3NDA5MzU4&html_redirect=1&v=xSd0sVB7NEE&event=video_description
Thanks for that. I use knives i sharpen for work. Hate the flatness of stanley knives and when they're blunt they are dangerous for close work.
I use various lockers on site. My son had a blade collapse on him and it almost took his fingertip off. Off work for three weeks and has lost the sensation in it around the damaged area.
Why the actual fxck are lockers fxcking banned when they are safer than a non locker?
UK Legal Carry Knives hello chap. Has there been some new case law regarding flippers? I might be wrong, but I thought the flick knife ban was due to them being actuated by pressing a button? So an automatic assisted knife. Thoughts welcomed.
@@jimbaker4942 only vague legislation, may of 2019 an amendment to the offensive weapons act 1959 received Royal assent, the amendments to section 43 can be seen here: www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/17/section/43/enacted most are taking this to mean at the very least, normal flipper knives are banned now, although I've no real idea not being a lawyer I'm afraid, all I can do is guess realistically.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives I think this is an over-reaction. I don't see how a flipper is a "button, spring or other device in or attached to the knife", nor do I see how it can be said to work "automatically", both of which are requirements of this new definition. A flipper is merely an exposed part, or extension of the blade, used for opening the knife manually - as is a normal nail nick or pinch hold, if we're going to be brutally logical about it! Yes, a flipper's meant to be one-handed-opening, and if the legislators had wanted to go down that road they could have, but they didn't. Our cause is not helped by the spreading of anecdotal urban myth or by barrack-room lawyers exercising overactive imaginations. At least you are sufficiently grounded to publish a link to what the law actually says!
Same, if it had a thumbstud I'd buy 2 or 3
How would you compare these 2 against the Boker Urban Trapper Petite?
I honestly couldn't say, I've not handled one although that's a frame lock anyway by the looks of it, looks nice though!
Random guy: can I borrow that pen. Me: naaa fuck offf
Scotsman here living in USA the laws here are great I own a few Microtech otf and a Glock 9mm all legal and open carry
I like the CEO, but why change the blade shape do much? OK, it had to lose 3mm in length to comply with UK rules, but it didn’t need a different shape. I think that the stud went to make it deliberately two hand opening. This was probably to anticipate the changes to UK law, but, though flippers have slipped in to a grey area, thumb studs are specifically exempted from any ban. Personally, I don’t really mind and am happy with this knife. It’ll certainly see some picket time when it gets home. Meantime, I’m very happy with my Wasabi! Have you seen the original on which it’s based? HH have it for over £700!
I have seen the £700 one! Looks great, well out of my price range though 😂 The CEO looks nice it's just a shame for me, thanks for lending it though sir!
No problem!
"Is that a pen can I borrow that, no fuck off" hahaha
But it IS a pen - it writes with the blood of your sworn enemies...
You're bang on about the thumb stud, a tab would have been useful too.
How would you like this knife if it had a thumb stud?
I would far prefer it although it would be an occasional gentleman's carry.
I bought mine from a uk seller it has the thumb stud on I love it
Yes, that's the original version although it's not UK legal due to it having a locking blade exceeding 3".
Подскажите пожалуйста название модели бокер на обзоре????
Just ordered the boker wasabi micarta m390 hope I made the right choice
Please let me know what you think when you get it, I've not tried the M390 version and it might have other improvements/changes.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives will let you know any spec changes I am a fan of your channel need more like ot for uk carry 👍👍🇬🇧
After half a day of playing I feel like it was a bargin 👍🇬🇧👍
I owned the US version with the thumb stud. It was so hard to deploy that I returned it. At least the nail Nick allows it to be opened.
You can use the thumb stud to open the knife using both hands as you would a nail knick.
Looks funny
How much is the ceo in the UK .I paid 40bucks us for mine
Sucks that they took away the stud on that version, that’s what sold me. Bought one before seeing in person.
Great backup casual use knife
It's a real shame, stopped me from buying one.
You can still get the thumb stud one , this was made exclusively for hinnie Haynes as a uk legal carry model .
Is assisted opening now illegal in the UK? I've seen the CEO with it.
It is completely illegal to own 'assisted' ooening knives, however, the CEO is manual opening not assisted opening, assisted basically boils down to spring assisted.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives Thank you. I was going by one video I watched. He was showing loads of assisted knives, and the CEO was in there. Shows how slick the CEO is in opening, easily as quick as assisted openers.
They have a knife that is like a cross between them both it's called a custom richard Rogers shorty carbon fiber
Really lovely knife, customs like that are way beyond me unfortunately however!
I wish it was in my price range aswell but unfortunately I can only afford £70 and still cant find a knife to fit my huge hands
@@UKLegalCarryKnives do you have any recommendations for a £70 knife for a guy with huge hands like the lanky world legal looks like a normal size knife in my hands
@@edclife8773 hmmmm🤔 There really aren't many makers that do big UK legal handles, the EOS Urchin is a great choice but over double your budget, the TOPS Tac-raze is another with a big handle, depends if you're happy carrying what looks like a straight razor, it's £100 but if you do like the design I'll sell you mine for £60 posted (no worries if you hate it!) Otherwise for large handles I'm lost, our market is mostly discreet and small unfortunately, might be worth looking at a UKPK, that handle is larger than most, they're also just about your price range iirc.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives I like the look of the uk pk and was looking for a second hand one so I can save cash but people tend to hold onto them was even going to offer someone my kershaw grinder as part trade if I could find someone
Saving for the hawk deadlock otf $2000 for a knife is alot but it is an investment they are getting hard to find . already have Microtech and benchmade fully auto otf
Funny in America many gripe it has a thumb stud. They want a flipper open.
Just wrote to Heinnie Haynes, expressing interest in a thumb stud version (like the original)
I may not get a response, but I encourage everyone else who has an interest, to show it to Heinnie.
Why are you allowed a boker flipper but not a ceo flipper
Only because the CEO locks open
Its running on ikbs. Nice little gentlemans carry . Good looking knife , but like the Wasabi more because of the flipper.Great video , thanks for sharing ! Ruike make a nice ligthweight knfe. The P865B , it has thumbstuds and a 14C28N blade. www.knivesandtools.nl/nl/pt/-ruike-p865-b-black-zakmes.htm
It has the thumbstud in the UK too and we can get the flipper, however the blade is too long to be a UK legal EDC, we can own them but without a relevant reason to carry it (usually work related or sport/hobbies) we can't EDC them. The one in the video has a shorter blade length to be EDC legal (blades should be 3 inches and under) in the UK, however thumbstuds are legal so they could have kept that design feature on the shorter blade too.
why tf would they remove the stud and flipper tab?
To make it uk legal
@@Jay-kk3dv They're both legal in the UK.
@@MadTwatter I doubt that, butter knife isn’t even legal in the uk 😂
@@Jay-kk3dv you're just incorrect. I don't know why i'd other arguing with a cretin
I spoke to Heinnie Haynes about this. I wanted to buy a Kershaw Blur, but they couldn’t get me one. The 2019 legislation hasn’t been passed yet, and these knives are still totally legal, but customs are confiscating them as they arrive. They have no right to do this, and you are 90% certain to win on appeal, but it costs £5000-£6000 to actually bring an appeal against HMRC, so they get away with it. Carrying one outside your home would be a different matter, as the blade length law HAS been passed into legislation.
Can you advise me on the blade length law?
Well, it is fairly long, and can get complex, but I can advise you on the basics. First of all, you have to realise that there is a huge difference between owning a blade, and carrying one. You can own most things, apart from automatic knives (ie switchblades), gravity knives, butterfly knives locking knives and a few other categories, but they have to be on your own premises.
However, carrying them is a different matter. Basically, the law allows you to carry non-locking pocket knives with a blade length up to 3 inches (7.62 cm) without any need for a valid reason. You are allowed to carry a knife which exceeds these guidelines in public, but please remember: you then do need a good reason to carry it.
A few pointers.
1. Good Reason
You can carry a 10 inch butchers knife in public if you are on your way to or from work, and happen to be a butcher. However, the police are unlikely to accept the excuse that you had the 10 inch butchers knife to trim your sandwiches with.
2. Multi Tools
You can carry a multi tool (eg a Leatherman) with a blade longer than three inches, because for some reason it falls under a different law.
3. Your car
If you are found with an oversized knife in your car, it counts as being in a public place, rather than being on your property.
4. Cutting edge
A lot of policemen do not know the law, and have confiscated knives and even arrested people for having illegal length knives when they shouldn’t have done. They measured the blade, found it was over three inches, and Bingo!
However, the three inches refers to the cutting edge, not the whole blade. Some knives have a choil between the handle and the start of the cutting edge to protect the fingers. THIS DOES NOT COUNT AS PART OF THE BLADE. As long as the cutting edge is under three inches, even if you are arrested and charged, engage a solicitor, and you will win in court, the case will be dismissed.
Hope this helps.
@@frankmason5525 As I thought, was just checking it hadn't been updated or anything as your comment sounded like the blade length law had recently chamged, Cheers for the detailed explanation.
Keep the bearings clean and oiled
Ah, shits on such a good knife. Cheers.
😅 It's just personal preference, had they left the thumb stud I'd have been all over this, without it, it sort of sits in between sleek primary knife and slow traditional, my pockets are black and white!
If it didn't have a thumb stud I would look elsewhere. It is elegant though.
@@bgomusicco wait, do you mean if it did have a thumbstud? This is the UK version where they removed the thumbstud.
Know what you mean about thumb stud, I mean it is so difficult to use a nail nick😏
Just a little slower and more obvious, I simply prefer to be as quick and inconspicuous as possible when using knives in this country. I of course enjoy plenty of nail nick knives as well.
Looks cleaner without a stud
Is this legal carry
It wouldn't be on my channel if I didn't believe so. Keep in mind I'm just a guy on TH-cam though and not a legal authority.
I looked at this when it came out but like you the lack of oho was a killer for me , but I much prefer my wasabi over the ceo even though it is a very nice knife .
Agreed, oho is a valuable feature, the Wasabi wins out for me as well. Cheers -Al
Disagree with you on the thumb stud. i think it was smart in crkts part to remove the thumb stud. Because of the design of the knife were the blad hids with in the handle and the detent you have to push past when pulling the blade out i find that unlike a lot of thumb stub knives where you can open them by flicking or slowy rotating the knife with the thumb stud you can only really confortably open the ceob one handed by flicking it. when ever i try to open the knife slowy its so akward and uncortable and i almost cut my self every time.
And when it flicks open it has a pretty loud sound and would easy draw attention to you
Since the thumb stud on the regurle ceo is pretty much usless as a slow opener and becuase of the laws and the way cops in the uk are it make sense why they got rid of it. And some cops in the uk might look at the facted that it flip and how fast it does and with sound it makes and get you in trouble for having it.
A fair point I hadn't considered given I haven't used an original CEO before, cheers for the detailed input!
I really wish someone would think of the southpaws out here sometimes. Such a shame.
I know why they removed the thumb stud....because they (?!) Are afraid it will be dangerous for a UK legal carry to have such a fast deployment method. Its sad..😢
So can I take it that Flippers are not UK legal.
Actually, it appears as though they are, Heinnie are selling them and someone I know has enquired directly to HMRC and they have confirmed they are legal to import.
@@UKLegalCarryKnives Hi. I have since read that thumb studs and flip assisted are only legal in your home.
@@techman9894 can you show me what has led you to believe that please as I'm fairly certain that's incorrect, assisted knives (with a spring) are completely illegal but thumb studs are not.
Hi I've got a screen shot but can't attach it to the reply.
@@techman9894 could you email it to me uklegalfolders@gmail.com please
that could fall down as it looks like a pen and could be regarded as a concealed knife
I get what you mean but it's not a pen when removed from the pocket so I think it should be fine.
I would pico this up of they had the thum stud
Just ruined a beautiful blade shape .the us edition blade is like a stilleto shape just beautiful
Bought this on wish and it had the thumbstud and locking mechanism, bought it for £20 , its 50 everywhere else
Microtech troodon can't put it down
CRKT? Ya it's just a pen brand mate. Can I borrow it? No fuck off. LMAO
I dont know from where you got this, i just bought mine on11/11/2020 from knives and tools, and it came original. Maybe you have some chineese copy.
No, it's an exclusive to the company Heinnie Haynes, its a uk legal version of the normal CEO
Mate, than you probably got some axclusive variant that gonna go up in pricw someday.
Its a non locking knife … for uk legal carry ! Give it a thumb stud and lock , and it is not legal carry in UK.
The CEO is available with thumb stud, and flipper ….. just get one of those ??
The ones that have a thumb stud and a flipper also lock so aren't legal, my preference would be a non locking unit with one hand opening.
Sounds like you need to move to America
I'd be destitute!
That has just ruined a beautiful knife
Lol, great name legal carry knives. The fact that, that is even a thing is just hilarious. Meanwhile I have a legal concealed carry permit for a pistol. From the usa