Can You Carry a Knife in England? - UK Knife Laws
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- What are the laws and rule around knives in the UK? We take a look at knife laws in England and the rest of the UK, what you can own and what you can carry legally. Enjoy!
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A Karen once called the police on me for carrying a 5" knife in public. When they arrived I was stood there in a wetsuit with fins under my arm and the knife on my calf. Officer just laughed and drove off! Karen got mad.
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U had me in the first half ngl 🤣
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@@chuffy3504 If it does not lock it is not going in the water with me
I work at a firework shop and went to open a box of fuses with my automatic knife and some lady told me she would be “contacting the authorities” and “have me put in prison” 😆
Any item just for self defence is illegal ...
Just let that set in.
Apparently, self defense in any form is illegal.
@@neiljohnson6815 pretty much
I recall reading something about the idea it’s premeditated you plan to hurt a person, even for self defence it’s not legal, one example was putting your keys in your fist etc it’s not their use so you can get prosecuted. Mad really
@@fuddboi yeah, even pepper spray is illegal here.
@@sweetdave540 There, not here.
As you can see by the knife crime rates, clearly these restrictions have worked wonders.
Carrying a tin of baked beans is illegal in the UK, unless you can prove it's for food purposes!!
can be an offensive weapon too in more ways than one :/ ... but so can a newspaper be if you know how to fold it up properly
😂😂😂 when was the last time you saw or heard of anyone getting warned or arrested for carrying around a tin of baked beans....if this was true and happened you can be sure the Daily Mail would be all over it 😂
As for knives, simple way around that, just say it’s for religious purposes 🤔😉😂
yeah maybe if you attempted to hit people with it. before you did that, it was just a tin of beans...
They almost made all food illegal (psychoactive substances act). They had to write a specific amendment to allow it.
That only applies to own-brands...
I remember as a teenager in the Scouts, we were allowed to carry a 6" sheathed blade on our belt. We obviously used these to cut things and were taught how to use them. We were also taught how to use an axe. Guess they have changed that by now.
We can't just carry them around by we do still use large knives and axes (mainly on camps though).
Probably not allowed scouts anymore as they are discriminatory against gender neutrals.
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In the UK scouts are gender neutral and have been since 2007.
Used to have a Bowie knife and hand axe on my belt when at scout camp.
I always carry a small legal penknife except when flying as they will confiscate it even if street legal.
I like to carry a knife cos one never knows when one will chance upon cake!
You legend Beth.
Cake jitsu is my fav form of combat training !!!
I try to carry a cake as well!
Surely a fork is more useful for good cake?!
My friend was attacked by a strawberry gateau. It was horrible finding him like that, jam everywhere. I never leave the house without a knife now
when I was a kid we all carried pocket knives, I remember many a Saturday whittling down branches to make bows and arrows even at a very young age - if kids did that now now health and safety would have a sh*tfit - back then we all carried handkerchiefs too.... no one ever would dream of stabbing each other with a knife - as a youngster back then I found the locking ones were actually safer to use as the blade couldnt close on your fingers - how times have changed
They used to issue us with a Bowie Knife we were allowed to wear when wearing our scouts uniform when I was a youngster...
Agree times have changes, I was a Sea Scout, a sheath knife and a marlin spike was part of the uniform routinely worn on church parade. Remember going camping where I was taught how to use both a machete and a felling axe.
Same as Me.
@@StephenSilverbeard I was in the scouts and it didn't go so well.
@@julianshepherd2038 The only joined as it allowed me to go sailing every weekend.
Knife laws are almost pointless, look what happens everyday in London, and the type of knife that is most used is the humble kitchen knife...
Well explained video :)
That's right. Ban knives designed to hurt people and they just use a normal everyday kitchen knife.
Knives aren't banned.
Carrying them without good reason is.
As a gardener I have all sorts in my van including a machete. Thats legal.
@@julianshepherd2038 Some knives are now banned though, as in Zombie Knives or anything with violent graphics :) You also probably don't carry your gardening knives concealed when at the shopping centre...
@@julianshepherd2038 That's right. Having a knife for a legitimate reason such as gardening is legal.
@@shardlake Exactly. Having a knife when working or on the way to a job is legal. If you have a gardening knife at a shopping centre it's rather obvious you're not gardening...
My dad used to collect pocket knive when he was alive and now I carry his favourite made by a guy in Sheffield called Stan Shaw
How Romantic
I've known it for years, but it still shocks me to hear that a bog standard utility knife like a Leatherman is illegal because of the locking mechanism... What an absolutely stupid and ridiculous law.
If you watched the video you'd understand, if you have a purpose for carrying the leatherman, you can still legally do so.
Who on earth would want to go around carrying one on their hip when out to the shops? It looks somewhat "special". For daily carry like that I have used a victorinox sak for the last 3 decades.
I have a Bantam on my car keys but always on my person I carry a Classic SD and despite its diminutive nature it's done everything I've asked of it. I can't say I've ever needed my leatherman when out and about on the street.
Equally despite using them for over 2 decades, I can't say I've missed a locking blade either when needing a knife out and about. If you're cutting something with the blunt edge of the knife, you're doing it wrong and if I'm doing anything heavy duty where I know I will want a fixed blade, say out hunting on a permission (rabbit guts do gunk up the folding mechanisms of knives wonderfully) then it's legal for me to bring a nice sharp fixed blade knife.
If youy need a multitool you can get some bladeless ones, but yeah... It's still messed up.
@ it's like you didn't watch the video. You don't need a bladeless multitool in the UK. You need a use for it. Are you in the habit of buying useless things?
@@lmaoroflcopter I've worked in more than one place where they have a no blade policy (Ocado for instance) and that's where the bladeless multitool comes into play. Other than that there are also different models from the same brand that have blades that can, or not, be considered "locking blades". Point in case, the Leatherman Kick that I've had for over a decade. It's an entry level model that has a blade that technically doesn't lock, but it's very effective in a stabby stabby motion type thing. Would that be legal? I can open and close it just like the blades in the video and its lenght is within the limit so can I EDC it with no issues?
@ providing it's blade is under 3 inches and it doesn't lock it's fair game and you can carry it without needing a purpose (few other caveats but he goes over them in the video)
I worked in B&Q and used a Stanley knife (retractable but it locked in position) every day. Ocado may have a no knife policy but that's ocado, not the UK. If you need a blade, you can use a blade.
Nice to hear sensible discussion about "legal carry" and I can confirm the sub-3" non-locking shown here is legal in non-restricted locations! Perhaps an opportunity to collab here! Best wishes. Daniel
The uk is talking about laws surrounding kitchen cutlery, for fucks sake.
Would it then be correct to say, if asked, that the reason for having such an item about a person is simply that it is entirely legal to do so?
Or would it be better to say that no reason for possession is required (given that it breaks no law)? Or to remain silent on the matter?
What about the knifeless rebar from leatherman with a locking awl and saw, so many sites say they are uk EDC legal but I'm pretty sure an awl and saw that locks doesn't fall under the folding exemption, I could be wrong however. Even my 12 year old son reckoned it was "dodgy", appreciate you don't give advice here but wondered what your thoughts were. ;)
"That's not a knife...... That's a knife"
As said by Paul Hoga as Crocodile Dundee.
I Don't carry a Kay- nife in public.
I carry a petrol powered Stihl Saw for .... eh work reasons.
those chains & padlocks are not going to open by them selves.
I am shocked that you all are living under such restricted conditions in the UK.
It's weird but people get stabbed here all the time!
@@tuscan666 Yeah, shows what good that "Knife control" is doing
Yes. Especially as almost all stabbings involve kids with kitchen knives, not adults with expensive folders. Strangely, criminals don’t obey laws.
I only have 1 knife that doesn’t lock. It’s a Swiss army!
@@tuscan666 Because the law is not being up held ,prosecutions are not harsh enough for criminals .Simple .
We really need to change the mindset in this country, a knife is a tool.
Never in my life have I viewed it as anything else, having said that it's always been a pocket knife of not more than 3" cutting edge and non locking I've had in my pocket.
I also had it instilled into me by my father how to properly behave and use it.
I live in the USA. I have carried a pocket knife since about 1991. There are just too many uses for one to not have it handy. The blade size which works best for my uses is about 3 3/8", and 1/2 of the blade is serrated, which works real well for cutting rope. The overall length is "too long" in most communities, according to their ordinances, but I have never been questioned about my tool. It also has a locking blade so that I don't ever have to worry about it closing on my fingers when using it. The fact that this feature is illegal in UK is crazy. It is a safety feature for the person using it.
I think many people do get it and have been brought up that way, me included. I always chuckle when I think back to my time in the Scouts. We'd go on a camp every summer to various places around the UK and usually during our time there the whole troop would end up walking into town. I can picture us now, 30-40 kids 11-16 years old marching into the local market town in our uniforms with 6 and 8 inch Bowies hanging off our belts. Never thought much of it at the time. Not long after I left school, around the age of 17, I got sent on an outward bound course in South Wales. I took a lock knife with me, just a natural thing to do when going out in the wilds. There were another group of kids there from the East End of London and they couldn't believe I was allowed to have a knife on me. I saw it as a tool, they saw it as a weapon. It's about upbringing, environment, education.
@@MrAl68 - Good story. I was an Assistant Scout Master for 5 years while my son was in Scouts. It was a ball.
I agree. It must be upbringing. I too never thought of a pocket knife as a weapon. I've never carried anything larger. After 4 years of martial arts training I thought of my hands, elbows, feet, and knees as weapons, but only for defense. Even after that training I never thought of my pocket knife as a weapon. I did train with a bow staff, so if there is a broom handle around, THAT is a weapon, ironically. Still though, only for defense.
Even the handgun I carry, I never think of it as an offensive weapon. Only defense, which I hope I will never have to use.
@@1001Hobbies Having had a non locking knife when cutting rope spring out and then cut my finger to the the bone and living in the UK I still when fishing and sailing carry a locking blade so I agree - I prefer my fingers to be whole and that's the point of a locking blade mind you when i was young and in the scouts part of the uniform we had to wear was a sheaf knife pretty sure that was over 3" but back then we used to go to camp with felling axes and chop trees down which these days would horrify health and safety peeps
@@1001Hobbies never had a slip joint fold on my fingers if it happens 95% of the time you're to blame for not using it correctly.
Getting my weapon knowledge up preparing for the incoming financial crash.
Like for the quote "don't be a knob with it"
This could be a general mantra for life
All kids carried pocketknives back in the 80s/90s, how times have changed..
um, no, we didn't.
@@spencerwilton5831 We did before the 80s. It was expected and culturally appropriate.
now we carrying 15 in
My parents bought me a penknife from the age of 7. Shame, but I cannot imagine doing the same with my son. Different world sadly.
my (3) girls all received pen knives at age 8. They know not to bring them to school, but they have their knives nonetheless.
I was talking about this the other day, I had a decent sized knife with a deer foot handle - what was my mum thinking of 😂 I was about 8
My 8yr old has my swiss army penknife my parents gave me when I was a young lad. He take it everywhere with him.
My 10 Yr old lad has a victorinox huntsman, he loves it and is getting a mora when he's eleven, he knows that knives are tools and not weapons. All about education imo.
Same.
As a 10 year old living in a rural part of Devon in the early 70's i used to walk around everywhere with a 10" Bowie strapped to my leg, i spent all my time as a kid in the woods,and around the farm and wouldn't go any where without it, even walking around the town, no one batted an eye lid..Different times.
I had a look over the new laws a while back, and there is a "loophole" for swords.
"There is also an exemption for swords with a curved blade of 50cm or longer covered by the prohibition that were made before 1954 or those made at any time by traditional methods by hand”
So in other words a blacksmith can still arm you 😂
You can't carry it though, it just means those curved swords are not banned outright.
oh so thats why this one guy in my town used to walk around witha sword strapped to his waist line lol the guy was apparently a proper nutter
@@djsubliminalreeve 😂 sounds it, to be fair I'm sure he rarely got any trouble highway men and bandits carrying it, local constabulary another matter though
That's an exemption for Sikh ceremonial blades (kirpan).
@@CristiNeagu I believe from what I remember that the sikh tradition of carrying a blade is quoted in the legislation as being a a valid reason for carrying a blade, I'd recommend everyone go and look at it online it's an interesting read, my favourite is the "definition" of a blowpipe, a word to the wise don't carry one of those metal straws anymore 😂
Btw the 3 inches is the CUTTING EDGE, not overall blade length.
It depends on the mood and knowledge of the PC I would say
@@IanSmith465 - Nope. The law is the law. Ask to speak to a Sergeant.
Correct. The ricasso doesn't count. However,ci wouldn't rely on that keeping you from wearing cuffs, until your barrister arrives!
@@steamboatwillie8517 - Assuming you mean Solicitor (You wouldn't need a Barrister unless it went to Crown Court), I never use one. Always had bad advice, to the point I'm convinced they work for the Magistrates.
Handcuffs are possible, but only until a Serg. gets on scene (although I'm well known enough that most don't bother anymore, they know I respect the game). Most Constables will double check rather than risk an unlawful arrest, as long as you explain in a polite manner and don't act like an idiot.
Worst case scenario is a quick trip to see the Desk Serg. at the custody suite and laughing whilst he gives the arresting Officer a dressing down for being an idiot. Usually you get an apology, a lift to where you were originally heading, and anything else they feel will stop you from officially complaining. I even got a McDonald's once.
@@johnwalshaw7362 interesting. I said barrister, as most solicitors don't have a clue...however.. I was writing more extravagantly than accurately ;0)
I doubt it would bother me, as I'm over 70, and my pocket knife complies with EDC needs.
Thanks for the reply though ☺️
In my experience the old bill will confiscate anything they want with a sharp edge legal or not. My local force have a twitter page where they show all the knives they've confiscated, they're frequently 3 inch slip joints that your grandad might have had. I'm not entirely convinced they actually know what the letter of the law is in many instances.
Im a car valeter..
I recently had an awkward encounter with a bored copper (earning the hate)... He arrested me while I was working for being in possession of a fixed bladed weapon. A window scraper. Its a plastic handle and has a stanley blade in the end to scrape the window.
After 20 mins, of me telling the thick jobsworth how wrong he was and him making a couple of calls and him struggling to read the long words on his phone, he dearrested me, gave me a cop lecture about knife crime and buggered off... No apology (tosser)
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Isn't it against the law to use harsh language in the UK? I mean, you could hurt someone's feelings. 🤔🤷♂️
No.
Wankpiece.
@@julianshepherd2038 apparently my question hurt someone's feelings, was that a defensive response, or an offensive one, apparently it's illegal in the UK either way. 😆 worthless lemmings, living on your knees. 🤷♂️
@@TheGreatSpoon103 in all seriousness people get arrested for tweets in the UK ur right.
@@TheGreatSpoon103 As oppose to the great freedoms you enjoy in watever western democracy you hail from. Wether armed or not im sure you live on your knees paying taxes, working yoyr arse off to make sombody else rich. Welcome to freedom
@@ToxicTom113 or haemorrhaging money for healthcare.
Interesting point, USA considers guns as a basic human right, but healthcare is absolutely NOT a basic human right. I’ll take healthcare over guns any day.
That's nuts. In the US state of West Virginia there is no law or restriction on any edged weapon.
I use a 7" Filleting knife while fishing, it stays in the bag with my fishing gear and is only used to clean fish, i suspect it would be a lawful reason as I'm going to and from fishing! Would you agree?
i don't a problem with that
You can have a fixed blade filleting knife whilst fishing. As long as it stays inside the fishing box or rod bag etc when not fishing. Its a knife for a purpose.
The law on legal carry is more for if you've gone walking camping etc and you carry a small penknife that's OK.
It's not however ideal to go for a drink and carry a penknife because there is absolutely no reason to be carrying one when pubbing and clubbing.
If you carry one just say to yourself "will I need my penknife with me?"
Use common sense.
@@edward.l.h7450 lol
Absolutely a reasonable reason, unlike those who carry a knife just because they can... with no real reason. Like the dude who’s channel this is!
Of course.
You can't gut a fish with a spoon.
Why is it illegal? Well that's because the UK gov think that banning things from public possession will stop their use in crime
It worked for drugs right?
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@TJ Murphy why would any normal person NOT carry a knife?
@TJ Murphy is that all it takes to become a criminal? Carry a knife?
The one and ongoing thing that will forever dick me off, as someone who used to roughshoot and owned shotguns and has carried a folding pocket knife since I was about 11 years old and still do in my 70's is that it doesn't matter how many laws are passed, what gun laws and what knife laws and what offensive weapons laws, criminals will continue to ignore the laws because they are criminals. I can remember when murder was rare in the UK, now it's an almost daily occurence.
Pass all the laws you want, criminals will just ignore them.
I doubt murder was ever that rare. I think people just had an easier time hiding the bodies back then.
Two things that tend to live in my trouser pocket, a stubby pencil and a short knife to sharpen it with.
If push came to shove the pencil would do more damage, knife only has a small section of blade with a decent edge and a rounded point.
I’ll be honest, I watched ready to put you straight, but nope, you’ve nailed it.
Never hesitate to put me straight, thanks for watching 😅
Thanks Callum, that was interesting and informative.
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Nice video!
I've always carried a penknife on me, such a useful tool to have. I feel naked when going through airports, etc. if I can't feel the weight in my pocket. I don't particularly use the blade much, but it does come in handy occasionally.
Hell, at the rock night club I used to go to as a teenager I'd have the staff come find me for a bottle opener for the once in a blue moon when someone ordered wine and I was easier to find than the bottle opener!
My hands are deadly weapons, take them everywhere and never been stopped
Ahahahah ok then ronnie pickering
American law, states you have a right to bear arms, I'm guessing hands go along for the ride.😏
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I carry a Lansky World legal, while Im at work.. It lives in the van.
Im a car valeter..
I recently had an awkward encounter with a bored copper (earning the hate)... He arrested me while I was working for being in possession of a fixed bladed weapon. A window scraper. Its a plastic handle and has a stanley blade in the end to scrape the window.
After 20 mins, of me telling the thick jobsworth how wrong he was and him making a couple of calls and him struggling to read the long words on his phone, he dearrested me, gave me a cop lecture about knife crime and and buggered off... No apology (tosser)
Like I said... Uniformed and un-informed earning the hate.
Absolutely bonkers man.
Did you get his ID? Report him for abuse of power.
If one was intent of harm they will do the harm with whatever a bat rolling wrench shovel crow bar frying pan list is endless of the cant use fists. The hysteria surrounding knife crime is enough to make us all use chopsticks even they are deadly in the wrong ku g fu handed. If you want to kill some one your highly unlikely to be stopped on the way to do it. Its the causes of youth crime that need addressing and perhaps zombie knives and Rambo knives are only for the zombies and Rambo.
@@CristiNeagu I dont think it was an abuse of power... It was a... I dont know the law that Im enforcing.
@@sahhull That's an abuse of power.
Liked and subscribed. Great video. Very informative.
Been ages since I carried a penknife for farm work- lost loads of them over the years!! Didn’t know lock knifes were banned now so thanks for a really helpful and clear video as always 👍
challenge 25 policy in shops means that if you look under the age of 25 you will be required to show proof of your age before purchasing an age restricted product (18)
You’d be surprised how strict knife laws are in some places in the US. While we have selfie defense as a valid reason to carry “weapons”, edged tools are often regulated much more heavily than you’d imagine.
I reckon that's because they don't require any background checks and available to anyone.
Yea but maybe a quarter of all teenagers have some pocket knife on them. Even in more prohibited areas, it seems culturally acceptable here
Sadly you tube censors won’t allow my replies to you to be published. They were about crime in the UK. Can you guess the rest?
Crime demographics to be precise.
not really, its mostly only limited to switch blades and spring opened knives. most place are realizing how rediculous these laws are and repealing them. Its funny in my state I can't carry a switchblade but I can carry a concealed pistol with no permit needed.
Excellent video, thanks.
Great advice , I remember back in the 1980's I had a knife in a jacket which I used for fishing. Being young and innocent, I just told the truth. I was pressured to admit 'if someone was going to kill me or my mother' I 'would' use/ brandish it. Which of course anyone would...child logic...hadn't learnt to lie. I was done for possession with intent to use or something. On reflection it was a bit unfair. However, it was the time of the SPG who beat me up twice for no reason. But they did clean the streets of the UK. So I have mixed feelings. Extreme results require extreme measures.
A 3” locking knife is safer in my view as it’s not going to fold on to your fingers.
It’s a nonsense that a buck knife that’s longer and solid is legal when a 3” locking knife isn’t.
Is it ok to carry a non folding 3”knife
You missed the point. Anyone of age can carry non-locking knives under 3” without needing a reason.
You can carry the buck knife or pretty much anything else provided that you have a good reason for doing so. You can carry a machete or kukri if you're gardening etc but not if you're strutting about town at night.
The term "valid reason" is totally at the discretion of the police office and the courts. Your valid reason might not be valid to them. Also all knives can be offensive weapons and you might get charged for that. Don't take knives to the pub, club, football match. I keep my very nice Swiss Army knife on my keys.
had to like and sub the moment you mentioned taking the top off the e-juice bottle, its how I get the very last drops too, and my pocket knife pops its right off.
Thanks for the post. I have had a small knife on me for years for working in the garden and like you opening boxes or breaking them up. Your CRKT journier sounds like a good replacement for my old gardening knife so thanks for the info.
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God forbid you want to defend yourself
I don’t think we are allowed to defend ourselves, they much rather we just die and be legal.
We're not allowed to. I knew a lady back in the 90's ( tall and quite scary ), she caught this lad trying to steal her lawnmower from her shed. She gave him quite a beating, but then was arrested later for assaulting him. 😐
You May defend yourself using “minimum necessary force”:-
You knock someone down, and you then can gtf outta there. You knock em down & then keep kicking them while down, yup, that’s assault.
Reasonable force only... Theres a lawyer/court enriched path ahead on which to tread very carefully along.
@@sahhull, yup. One officer, two people, yup, I can see that being reasonable. Two officers, one man tank, yup, I can see that being reasonable. One 4’8”, 92lb suspect & 4 officers, naaaah, no way would cuffing be reasonable.
Love my spyderco ukpk
Brilliant video and great information
Glad it was helpful!
So many of the pocket knives that are on sale in the UK are illegal, mostly because their blades lock but, most people just don't realise this. Good video.
They are not illegal if they lock. They are just counted as a fixed blade which is not illegal, you just need a valid reason to have it on you.
I carry a knife everyday, UK legal of course: an A. Wright folding lambs foot, Chrome Vanadium Sheffield steel.
That's my favourite EDC knife too 😀
A little biker plus XS for me, nice strong blade and very well made. Used to carry a Dog Slipzilla but, it was always too difficult to open one handed.
I carry a rough rider blue mule for my edc for cutting my apples
@@medley4375 Hope its not your Adams apples. lol
As soon as you commit another offence, then you will be searched and charged with possession of a bladed article. Being under the influence of Alcohol is a higher culpability factor, being on a licensed premises can add to that. @englishshooting you need to be very careful how you give information regarding the carrying of a knife as your advice specifically applies where there is no offence or suspicion of an offence. If people think they can carry a bladed article as a matter of course whilst out and about in town and on the lash, they could easily find themselves on the wrong side of the law. I would avoid having any bladed article with you if you are in a pub or after having a few.
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Thanks!
Glad I found this video - I always thought it was illegal to have a mixed blade (serrated and flat)
For a while, I just carried a straight razor as I figured there was no reason to not have one.
Thanks for watching 🙂
@@EnglishShooting no worries at all dude. Thanks for making great content
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Most knife crimes are not done using expensive knives but with cheap kitchen knives and screwdrivers
It’s amazing how the law manages to be both sensible and reactionary wibble at the same time. What about a sgian-dubh?
There is a defence in the legislation that covers if you're carrying at as a national costume.
Excellent explanation.
Told me a lot I didn't know. Well done.
It really gets blurred with the claws etc, you can get away with some of them in a martial arts context as long as their are what's called "training weapons". I do Ninjutsu as well as historical re enactment/full contact battle (romans, Vikings, medieval ) so obviously part of the training is to have them, from what I understand as long as they don't cut and you are not using them in a threatening way publicly you are allowed to have re enactment weapons for that purpose. Through work etc ive met people who own sharpened ready to go commando knives, I'm guessing they get away with it because they aren't dicks with them.
I've never really understood how something carried for a defensive purpose could be considered "offensive".
'An offensive weapon is a tool made, adapted or intended for the purpose of inflicting physical injury upon another person'. Seems clear to me.
@@MajorJimPlays inflicting injury for the purpose of defence would make it a defensive weapon no?
@@samsniper2000 In UK law that distinction does not exist.
Well, someday fists could be considered as such. As if we're specialists, trained for the kill.
I personally see no point in arguing the logic behind. Cause it's malicious intent itself, considering tools as evil or all people are with ulterior motives. What happened to the, innocent until proven guilty?
This, simply, is a reaction of the need for suppressing certain type of characters within the horde. That's why this movement has no borders and is a trend around various regions in the world. Reminds me of the classical Big Brother concept.
Otherwise, everyone knows bad guys do not prefer :) licensed / registered weaponry :D and do not care for laws for that matter...
@@mimimmimmimim No they could not. They are appendages.
I carry a Lansky “World Legal” for the same reason as your CRKT. Can I also add, Callum, thank you for the fair and balanced video - some very good points and useful info....and no cop bashing! 😁
Thanks Martin 🙂
Good knife. I have the Lansky too 👍
The law doesn't state a blade length of up to 3 inches, it states a 'cutting edge not exceeding 3"' The blade itself can be a bit longer, so long as only 3" of it is sharp. Not sure the police would see it that way though, but the courts would.
Man I’m glad I don’t live on the uk, these laws are cuckoo.
The UK is a confusion of laws. It is very far from a free country, bent politicians, paid in shekels, with nothing better to do but make peoples lives more and more legally bamboozled.
If you are carrying a cuckoo for defense purposes you can get into trouble with the law!!
@@geezerp1982 Not if you have a reason for it. i.e its dark, I might be out after dark that is fine.
@@harrywilde2178 Better watch carrying my hamster then, in case the find out his real name is Jeane Claude Van Hamsterdam.
Why?
What about if your kitchen knife had "The Justifier" etched onto it!? haha
The poliss might have formed a different opinion
"Why are you carrying this knife?"
"bubblewrap."
In Czechia, there are no knife laws. Weapons other than firearms are unregulated and consequently may be freely carried for the lawful, good reason that is personal protection. Pistols may be carried pursuant to a permit obtained through a shall-issue process. Also, there are no specific rules of engagement for personal protection. Carrying daggers to back up a pistol is commonplace.
Wow! The Journeyer is out of stock in every retailer I just spent the last 20 minutes looking at.
Bought one years ago, the flat grind version without the serrations. It's okish. I use a Real Steel Luna now, UK legal, better blade steel, a good price and they're available still.
Well researched and Very informative,with good examples. UK weapons laws are ridiculous though every major artery in the human body is less that 3" below the surface so less than 3" is just as lethal as greater than 3" if the intent is there.
A knife is a tool, not a weapon. It can be used as a weapon but so can just about anything. Even a newspaper (see Millwall brick).
If knives didn't exist the unscrupulous would and do use other things.
@@woodlandbiker true, literally anything is a tool and weapon depending on the operator controlling it. My personal.improvised weapon is a wall. But the knife laws are under the offensive weapons act not the tool act .
Thing about uk laws tho. It's basically a guide on what's always gonna be safe to have not was only allowed. You can carry a 10 inch fix bladed knife legally you just need a valid reason to have it but their basically is no valid reason over you liking the knife. I have ever found anything a 3 inch blade can't do over a larger blade in everyday life. So their is no need for a larger blade.
I've carried some sort of penknife since my Grandad gave me my first when I was 10. Find it difficult to imagine managing without one. I've never misused one - never been tempted to.
My current knife is a tiny 2 inch long single-blade knife with a 1.5 inch blade (3.5 inches long when open.) It used to hang from my key-ring.
Currently it sits on a shelf. The reason being a couple of policemen spotted it when I was starting up my mobility scooter one day and demanded to see it.
I pointed out the size of the thing, and that the marks on the blade surely showed its main use was sharpening pencils (yes I still use pencils.) Plus - for god's sake - I'm almost 80 and my walking sticks aren't exactly fashion accessories!
But - they pointed out - the blade locked and that made it a 'weapon.'
They returned it and allowed me to leave only after a warning that if I was caught 'carrying' again I could be subject to arrest.
I just feel so safe with such stout fellows around.
As a Dutchman, the situation is similarly limited on my side of the canal, which frustrates me to no end. My father grew up carrying a pocket knife as an everyday item and his father never left the house without his trusty SAK (which, though cheap, I am glad to have inherited). Nobody would bat an eye back then. Hell, even when I was a kid growing up in the countryside some 20 years ago, it was quite normal for kids to carry a SAK (as well as hammers and all manner of potentially dangerous objects) when going outside to build forts. These days you simply can't do that anymore. I certainly won't let it stop me--hypothetically, of course--but having to be on your toes for carrying what's historically a simple tool akin to a watch is absurd.
Honestly, if you're desperate to hurt people, a slender screwdriver is just as effective and more covert than most knives.
Many young people carry knives, in the UK, mostly involved in drug gangs with stabbings on a regular basis
sounds like you should legalize and regulate all drugs, first off theres no reason why someone should be put in prision of fined for putting a chemical in thier body. Secendly it'd get rid of the revenue for these street gangs and the would dwimndle in number befor all but disappering. Thirdly regualted drug markets would insure pure unadulterated products at prices the coud pay for rehab for anyone who needed it with a small portion of the tax revenue. also the drugs could be made cheaper which would mean opeople wouldnt have to rob and steal to get a fix. Alcohol is far ore complex to make then drugs yet no one is burgerlizing home for booze money; becuase its affordable. And the people that choose to use will save yoou money in the long run as they will diminish thier life pan and cost less retiremnt payouts. seems like a win for everyone involved; well beside the self rightous do gooders that believe they have a right to dictate how other lead thier lives.
That small knife you carry is very dangerous the blade can come back and cut through a finger with out a lock
Unfortunately, according to UK law, safe knives are illegal.
That ease of folding would put most off using it as a weapon but, I take your point.
@@cliffb2454 No, it wouldn't...
1. Non locking blade knives don't fold so easily, especially when stabbing.
2. No one goes out to stab people with a Swiss army pocket knife when you can buy 10 inch kitchen knives in any store.
That restriction deters no one and saves no lives. It only leads to accidental injury due to the knife folding on your fingers.
@@CristiNeagu As I said, I take your point. Folding knives can be more dangerous than a locked blade. I also standby my point. A folding knife does not make a good weapon as you may end up harming yourself.
@@cliffb2454 But your point is irrelevant.
Great video as always.
Has there been any clarification as far as you can tell on assisted opening knifes?
They were in the offensive weapons bill but can’t see anything about them now!
If by assisted you mean there’s a spring to deploy the blade then yes, illegal to own.
Great help thanks 👍
Very welcome!
Depends on the circumstances as in hunting, fishing but there is no reason to carry a knife on the street
in my opinion you shouldn't need a reason but oh well
What if everyone else on your street is carrying?
This is fucking hilarious!!!! I thought it was a skit when he was talking about how he carries it everywhere coz of all the bubblewrap and cardboard!! hahahahahahahahaha!!
I know I always like to open my parcels while walking around the streets! 😂
That first knife has a very nice finger groove to stop it from closing in on your finger.
I've wanted to get hold of the journeyer for a while there aren't that many part serrated UK legal knives but unfortunately it's discontinued and I can't find any new old stock or even second hand anywhere.
As an American.... I was completely unaware of the strict knife laws in the UK... that’s crazy.
Welcome to the UK where we stop short of licensing spoons....
@@EnglishShooting No need to give them any ideas. 😂 my grandfather came here from the UK, I’m sure he’d be pretty shocked as to what’s become of the UK in that regard.
@@EnglishShooting I will also add that I genuinely appreciate what you do given all of the red tape and restrictions, mad respect.
All our laws are strict.
It's much better in the USA where only a few tens of thousands get shot to death every year. Which country did you call crazy?
8:45 SO WITH A KNIFE ALSO CARRY POT AND PANS TO BEAT THE BEJUSUS OUT OF ATTACKERS. LOL.
I love how that's your takeaway from the video 😆
@@EnglishShooting I think a pan would be much better than a knife. they would see shooting stars one it connects with their skull...just like in the cartoons
@@esecallum Carrying a hefty frying pan to bang someone with still falls under "carrying an offensive weapon" to the plod.
@@esecallum 😂 id so do that XD
@@nodiggity9472 what if they pull out a knife on you?
All Fishermen carry a super sharp Buck knife 3:56 with a blade a little longer than yours. For cutting up baits to cutting line, undergrowth wires all sorts of things.
love my Lansky worldwide, very useful tool
I’m guessing my Ka-Bar, speed assist, and switchblade knives would be a no-no in most cases.
Can't even own them here, there banned
You'd be committing an offence just by bringing one into the country.
Switchblade is illegal to carry. Ka-bar legal with reasonable excuse eg. going camping. Speed assist is not a switchblade and technically legal with reasonable excuse. I carry a locking blade knife to and from work where I need it, and a slip-joint (Victorinox Fieldmaster) everywhere else.
Most of the Ninja weapons are banned in the UK, yet I have never seen a single Ninja...
They used to smuggle them in in the back of Datsuns :)
You haven't seen a ninja because you can't see ninjas, you can only see people that think they are ninjas.
@@serineaaskold8428 Good point :)
See, the ban helps!
@@LH_Vagrant its like some random mp went on a coke fuelled ninja film binge and thought man "those ninja weapons are dangerous"
Hello EnglishShooting, could you please tell me the name or model of the second knife you showed thx.
Great vid very informative.
Is there a new version of that CRKT journeyer? Or perhaps a multi tool version of it? Looking to replace a leatherman crater C33tx which I use for work, but would rather non locking
With the way the world is going at the moment, I feel the UK self defense laws need an overhaul. I for one would be happier with weapon for dealing with a threatening situation.
Law in uk has been the same for centuries.
If the jury thinks its reasonable force then you are fine.
@@julianshepherd2038 Enjoy your stay in remand until then, and good luck coming up with a six figure sum ay short notice to pay your legal team.
@@MrEdrftgyuji i never met anyone who knew why it is a good idea to wait months before a trial.
What you say happened to a friend of mine. The other guy had the knife my friend punched him and the guy died from banging his head on the kerb as he fell.
I think it was 9 months he spent, at 17 y o, in an adult jail. Never been the same since. The jury were not the problem. Remand was.
Having a weapon for defense instantly makes it an offensive weapon?
Yes, anything held for the purpose of inflicting harm is an offensive weapon.
@@EnglishShooting and if it’s for self defence because they stabbed you?
Good video , my pocket knife I have carried for years unfortunately locks , time for an upgrade I think .
I recently purchased a USMC Ka-bar (plain edge Non serrated) and I’m wondering if I can legally carry it/use it when doing something such as bush craft/camping? although I know a bit of knife law in the uk I still just want to make sure If it’s ok or not , any help would be appreciated. :)
As a knife maker in the U.K. I can tell you the U.K. knife laws are a joke and all over the place and trying to make and sell custom knives in this country can at times be a legal mine field
Do you have a website mate? I'm always on the lookout for good cutlery.
Why would you waste your talents in a dump like that? Why don't you move somewhere?
Get arrested for having more than 3”.
No problem for you than John hehee
What if you want to bring a tomahawk and a spring assist knife in your bag to the woods for camping / hiking for woodworking and need to walk through a town to get to the woods? Is that a valid reason?
It's completely bonkers in the UK. I live in Czech Republic and there are no restrictions on knives at all. The local petrol station were selling them at discount with petrol purchases, so I bought 2 lockblades and a butterfly knife, they were decent quality and a good price. I kept the butterfly in the car with some other bits and pieces, drove the car to Scotland on a visit. It was then that my friend told me the knife was illegal. It just makes no sense. When we were boys in the Scouts most of us had big Bowie knives on our belts.
I call this tyranny... Cheers from Texas.
I call it smart, that how you keep the streets safe England , one of the safest countries like Australia, usa has a 3rd world crime rate and Texas has even higher rate, learn from other countries you should
@@pineapplesideways3820 "If you give up your freedom for safety, you don't deserve either one." - Benjamin Franklin
The uk isnt one of the safest countries, we have the worst drug offence rate, violent crime rate and alcoholic crime rate among all major nations in Europe. These bans are lazy ways to avoid having to deal with the source of the problems.
I really want to move to Texas, I live in the UK and hate the oppression. Also people here are so brainwashed. There is always violent crime and no one wants self defense objects. Everyone makes out they're safe when they're not. Criminals are shooting people and hacking them to death with machetes and no one wants to carry for self defense! This is because of the propaganda machine that is our media! I cant wait to move to Texas
@@jackharvey562 same brother. Especially now protest is ullegal
I've had the police confiscate 'uk legal' folders just because they can.
Go into the station and make an official complaint, as long as you were not doing anything daft with it they will have to return it.
Many years ago in the Territorial Army we were issued with a large pen knife as part of our uniform/kit. It was supposed to used as a general tool though I looped mine through my lanyard to keep it looking straight. I guess it being an issue knife when travelling too or from the TA centre would have been exempt.
hi you said its illegal to carry any serrated knife but the journeyer knife you had is serrated towards the handle is that ok. Also if i had a locknife in my car would that be illegal because its not on my person, its in my personnel car.
Jesus man I’m sorry
When will people in power realise that knives are not dangerous its the person carrying them that's the problem. Banning everything will not make any difference to criminals simply because they don't care about legality.
@@ericking7406 they don't care about that. they just want you completely unarmed so they can go snooping into your personal life with little stoping them. Other countries saw what the usa did with their constitution and the freedoms that it gave to the people and demonized the weapons that people could use to rise up against that kind of intrusion of privacy.
@@Mrdriver2222 Yup, and now that they are sliding us into the New World Order you know why they de-armed us in the UK and the folks in the USA truly know why there has been such incredible effort put in to remove your 2nd amendment
A Narwhal Tusk?
No scrimshaw for you!!!
Definitely on a watch list now
Assuming that your version is the same as mine, the CRKT Journeyer may very well land you in trouble with the police as it has a work around to the blade fixing issue. From the CRKT website, "To lock the Journeyer™ blade in place, simply pull the T6 torque wrench pin tool from the back of the handle and place it into the blade slot." A handy hole through the blade and body allows you to lock the blade open with the short end of the "allen key". If the blade is lockable then it isn't strictly an EDC knife.
This is why I don't carry the tool.
If a cop says I’m going to give u a caution DO NOT ACCEPT THE CAUTION it is an admission of criminal guilt and will go on your record. Tell the cop to take you to court as they have to prove that you were carrying it unlawfully so have it at the bottoms of a rucksack with a coat on top as it would be impossible to prove you had it with the intent of committing a crime