We've been using the Canon M50 since March 2020 and had great success with it. Prior to that, we had no recording or livestream equipment, so it was a great entry-level setup for the cost. The biggest upgrade we've made is adding an 80-200mm EF lens to use in our worship services. On a BIG side note, Canon has an EOS Webcam Utility that will bypass the 30-minute record limit when we hook up our M50 into OBS, using the micro-USB or micro-HDMI ports on the side of the camera. We use this feature to livestream services, record videos, or livestream & record at the same time. UPDATE: After some research, I may have learned that the micro-HDMI port isn't great for capturing a signal because it's really only designed for a smaller camera monitor. We use the micro-USB and have no issues.
That's a great addition, Andrew. Thanks for adding that. I've heard good things about the EOS Webcam Utility but haven't used it myself yet. Glad to hear it's been useful for you!
Might be a dumb question - but would the EOS Webcam Utility get effected by the fact that we run our cameras into an ATEM mini? Thinking about buying one for our church but wanted to make sure that wouldn't be a problem.
@Andrew Desko Nice setup,Man. Our church use the canon m50 too but have no idea how to set it up using OBS or any other stuff to make it better on facebook live. Could you give your email and give some help if you dont mind?
Good advice, as a Canon mirrorless shooter and using them around our church I'd like to add 2 things 1. The canon m50 MKII the better camera to get vs the original IF you are looking to live stream, the M50 MKII has clean HDMI out, and will work better with a Blackmagic ATEM mini 2. If you are willing to "break" the $1000 barrier, for the money the Canon m6 MKII is an amazing camera for the money. It does a proper 4k, it does clean HDMI out, slightly larger battery, autofocus and color science is top notch and you can get it with the kit lens for about $1100. Also it has never once overheated on me while running it for between 2 services over 6 hours. Finally if you want the reach the the 18-150mm lens is great. If anyone would like samples I can point to our live stream, so you see it in action.
@@RevJorgeDiaz Here are 2 examples - First, this is a one camera setup I record in 4K on the Canon M6MKII which allows me to hide cuts by zooming in and out as needed. So even though I record in 4k, I deliver in 1080p - th-cam.com/video/5qelY0lsciQ/w-d-xo.html
@@RevJorgeDiaz For our live stream on Sundays I use 3 cameras, 2 I really like one I HATE :-). The side angle where I linked to in the message it the Canon M6 MKII again with the 18-150mm lens. The middle “main camera” is the Canon HF G50, also 4k and is a great option since it has a power cable and power zoom. The final camera (stage right) which I try to avoid using much is an old Canon HF R32 (I think) pretty much a R800, it was $300 5 years ago. - th-cam.com/video/hUNwOcKIEus/w-d-xo.html - I’m a one man band operator right now, so all cameras are static on tripods and light stands, I’m using the BlackMagic ATEM Mini Pro as a switcher and OBS to stream.
Great video! I would be interested in your suggestions for Best Service Live Stream Camera under $1000? I have found live streaming challenging at they are often filmed from a distance (from the balcony or back of the room) and many stages don't have great video lighting. Plus many smaller churches don't have a large budget for an expensive camera.
Thanks Brady. We have two Panasonic 1080p broadcast cameras in the auditorium, connected to a vmix pc via Blackmagic Decklink cards, so I have two questions: 1) Can I add either of these cameras via NDI to vMix through the router? 2) Which of these cameras will take the best still pictures? Thanks for a great video.
Using the sony a6600 because of the battery and crazy autofocus 😀.. We use it at church with some old Canon xa20/25. I also own the G85.. but as my personal camera. One thing i dont like is the battery. You need an external source as it wont last for more than an hr. Also the autofocus is not good. I do like that it is cheaper to get a 300mm equivalent lens with a M43 than a Emount lens
Hello I would like to know if the camera would heat up when geared up with a hdmi output for more than a hour or so. We dont do internal recordings at our church. I already own a6300 personally. Just want to know how it will work for Church live. Thank you in advance
What can you recommend for a situation where the camera has to be 50-70 feet away from the pulpit? Am I limited to using a camcorder with a good optical zoom? Using a 400mm lens with these DSLR’s doesn’t seem like a great option when the lens itself costs more than the camera...
At least 2 of these cameras overheat. Would be nice to take that info along when comparing these. They’ll turn off after 30-45 minutes of use (even when not recording)
Hi, love your videos.. Very helpful and informative. Question: what lens (or lenses) would you recommend when using the same a7s III in church in order to get good videos? Thanks
Helpful video, thanks mate. Pushing the budget a little more, what’s your thoughts on the Sony A7C? Love to go to the Sony AS7iii but can’t stretch that far! Cheers
As a recovering Southern Baptist, I'm definitely not one who wants to help any church do ANYTHING. However, I will make an observation that could be useful. I wouldn't recommend cameras with large sensors for this use case. You're probably better off with a more traditional HD camcorder. Why? Depth of field. Sure, shallow depth of field looks nice and artsy in the movies, but those movies have dedicated focus pullers and specific marks that the talent has to hit. If you're streaming a church service, you won't have full control over where everyone involved will be. So, you increase the risk of people being out of focus if you have shallow depth of field. Sure, you could buy a camera with a large sensor and stop the lens down for the same effect, but at that point, why have the larger sensor in the first place?
I am looking at getting one of these three, probably the m50 because my budget is pretty small, my question is which lens do I get? I am pretty sure my senior pastor will want it mounted on the back wall which is probably 35 feet from the platform. What lens should I get to get a quality image from that distance that still gets maybe 15 feet of the platform in frame?
Hi Everyone. I am new to this camera scene. I have a budget of $1000 and my main priority is video recording, Live stream recording, my church has low light (camera that takes good low light videos) and our church service is 2hours (you dont want the camera to die during a live streaming). Please help ????
Thank you for this Insightful video Brady about budget cameras for churches. I would like to know is it good option to get a camcorder or a mirror less cameras for Livestream in long run for churches ?
Hopefully this is helpful but we’ve been using both, out main safe camera is the Canon HF G50, and one of the side cameras is a m6 MKII, the third camera an older camcorder but the quality is not on par with the other 2. When I replace the 3rd camera I hope to get another camcorder. For 2 reasons, they natively support power to the device and the ability to use “power zoom” I can buy a LANC remote to adjust my framing. That said I love the m6mkii for our twice per week talking head segments I do with the pastor.
If you are still wondering I would say go for a Mirror less, a good camcorder that would match $1K Mirrorless Image quality, would cost you close to $7K or more, the best part about mirrorless is you can easily change lenses
My church is looking to upgrade our live stream cameras. Our cameras are set about 60 feet away from the stage. We never move the cameras from their position on the stands. Their only purpose is the live video stream so low light is key. Our budget is around $1,500 any advice?
Oh yeah. When I was using Canon T3is and Panasonic GH2s years ago I hacked all my camera bodies with Magic Lantern. Nowadays I don't because cameras have progressed so much.
Hey Brady, much love from India. ❤️ Just a small request, I have the Atem Mini Pro ISO and I am about to transition from a Canon Camcorder to my first mirrorless camera! I've been looking at BMPCC4k since with the ATEM they can be shaded and triggered remotely. AND I saw your earlier videos about how you also use Pocket 4k for your streaming setup. 1. What are your thoughts on it? Would you still suggest someone to pull the plug on that model or get a Sony or Panasonic? 2. Please do separate the RECORDING and STREAMING categories. Most of us are doing live streams and these 30m record limit cameras are just not for us! Thank you for the efforts and have a great day!
Sam, already did a separate video on the best cameras for live streaming! If live is your priority, then yes, the BMPCC is going to be your best option IMO in this price range: th-cam.com/video/fQYeRBJl-dY/w-d-xo.html
You almost always recommend a DSLR for church video. Wouldn't a straight up video camera like a Canon Vixia HF R800 for around $250 be a viable option?
So Brady why did you recommend the g85 vs the g95? Both are under 1k, and the autofocus is apperently better on the g95 and comes with vlog free of charge.
The Canon EOS Rebel SL3 could be also a valid alternative. No 30min-limit on the Clean-HDMI output. Full flippable Touchscreen. In-camera-stabilisation. Good AF. No high framerates in HD and 4k though (max 1080p60). At a pricepoint of $699 with a kit lens.
@@prochurchtools Your videos are super helpful! How about the SL3 mentioned below? Any downsides compared to the other 3? Also do all the 3 you mentioned do clean HDMI out? As this website doesn't officially state the M50: www.elgato.com/en/gaming/cam-link/camera-check
Feedback? Not certain what you mean by that. If you're looking for step-by-step instructions on how to configure your live stream with one of these camera models, I'd just search those terms in TH-cam. Here's a video I found quickly that may be helpful: th-cam.com/video/kfTn2UixKAA/w-d-xo.html
So I think I've watched all of your videos, but I never heard where Alex went. At first, I thought it was just covid, then it seemed permanent. What's up?
@Brady: What lens would you recommend for streaming from about 70 to 80 feet away? Right now I have the canon hf cam optical zoomed in, but I'm getting a lot of grain from the light adjustments. I put more light on the subject and ended up with haloing. th-cam.com/video/0DRe3hQ9l1A/w-d-xo.html (11 min in)
A smaller budget doesn't mean lesser results! Let's kick off the new year with my three favorite camera + lens combos under $1,000!
Happy new year Brady! ❤️
@@musicxsam1 Same to you!
Does the 30min time limit affect live-streaming? or is there a way around that with the canon?
Great video. Can't wait for the full list of best cameras. Been wondering what's the best option around the 2000 mark but with no video time limit.
@@ThePastorBmac You can use the Canon EOS Webcam Utility to get around it!
We've been using the Canon M50 since March 2020 and had great success with it. Prior to that, we had no recording or livestream equipment, so it was a great entry-level setup for the cost. The biggest upgrade we've made is adding an 80-200mm EF lens to use in our worship services.
On a BIG side note, Canon has an EOS Webcam Utility that will bypass the 30-minute record limit when we hook up our M50 into OBS, using the micro-USB or micro-HDMI ports on the side of the camera. We use this feature to livestream services, record videos, or livestream & record at the same time.
UPDATE: After some research, I may have learned that the micro-HDMI port isn't great for capturing a signal because it's really only designed for a smaller camera monitor. We use the micro-USB and have no issues.
That's a great addition, Andrew. Thanks for adding that. I've heard good things about the EOS Webcam Utility but haven't used it myself yet. Glad to hear it's been useful for you!
I needed to hear this! Thanks so much
Might be a dumb question - but would the EOS Webcam Utility get effected by the fact that we run our cameras into an ATEM mini? Thinking about buying one for our church but wanted to make sure that wouldn't be a problem.
@Andrew Desko Nice setup,Man. Our church use the canon m50 too but have no idea how to set it up using OBS or any other stuff to make it better on facebook live. Could you give your email and give some help if you dont mind?
@@Topeng_perak Sure thing, you can email me anytime at andrew@ibcsav.com. Happy to help!
We love our Panasonic cameras they are reliable and create a great stream and video capture for a affordable price.
Same here. I have 2 Lumix cams I use exclusively for church live streams.
Great vid bro! Just picked up a Sony A6400 + sigma 16mm 1.4 for a webcam. Can’t wait to flex the slog color profile on Zoom meetings. 💪
SLOG in a Zoom meeting is QUITE the flex. I love to see it.
Please I need help!! How can I get in touch with you??
My setup as well. I'm using the creative style Autumn Leaves and get comments about the look on almost every video meeting.
Yessir! We’re rocking multiple g85s at our church, for our livestream and for pictures.
Love Panasonic cameras! So underrated.
any issues with limited video stream time? ie, can you set it up to serve as a video feed source without having it shut down after 20 minutes?
@@LordofLifeLutheranChurchDBQ no issues. We use the clean hdmi out and plug them into to ac power. They will run as long as we need
Does it heat up when using hdmi out for a long time ?
Good advice, as a Canon mirrorless shooter and using them around our church I'd like to add 2 things
1. The canon m50 MKII the better camera to get vs the original IF you are looking to live stream, the M50 MKII has clean HDMI out, and will work better with a Blackmagic ATEM mini
2. If you are willing to "break" the $1000 barrier, for the money the Canon m6 MKII is an amazing camera for the money. It does a proper 4k, it does clean HDMI out, slightly larger battery, autofocus and color science is top notch and you can get it with the kit lens for about $1100.
Also it has never once overheated on me while running it for between 2 services over 6 hours.
Finally if you want the reach the the 18-150mm lens is great. If anyone would like samples I can point to our live stream, so you see it in action.
Great additions, Roby!
Would appreciate seeing the results of your set up!
@@RobyDavis Don't see the links... perhaps you can resend?
@@RevJorgeDiaz Here are 2 examples - First, this is a one camera setup I record in 4K on the Canon M6MKII which allows me to hide cuts by zooming in and out as needed. So even though I record in 4k, I deliver in 1080p - th-cam.com/video/5qelY0lsciQ/w-d-xo.html
@@RevJorgeDiaz For our live stream on Sundays I use 3 cameras, 2 I really like one I HATE :-). The side angle where I linked to in the message it the Canon M6 MKII again with the 18-150mm lens. The middle “main camera” is the Canon HF G50, also 4k and is a great option since it has a power cable and power zoom. The final camera (stage right) which I try to avoid using much is an old Canon HF R32 (I think) pretty much a R800, it was $300 5 years ago. - th-cam.com/video/hUNwOcKIEus/w-d-xo.html - I’m a one man band operator right now, so all cameras are static on tripods and light stands, I’m using the BlackMagic ATEM Mini Pro as a switcher and OBS to stream.
I would love a course for framing and getting the right shots for Livestreaming! Training for my volunteers!
Fantastic Video Brady! Thanks again for everything!
It's a little over the 1000 price limit but the Canon 90D is a beast with 4K without a crop AND keeps its auto-focus
Always helpful. Thanks Brady!
informative and helpful
Great video! We have been looking for a new camera to use for our live service and this video definitely helps us out! 👍
Many thanks, great video. Really helpful content.
Great video! I would be interested in your suggestions for Best Service Live Stream Camera under $1000? I have found live streaming challenging at they are often filmed from a distance (from the balcony or back of the room) and many stages don't have great video lighting. Plus many smaller churches don't have a large budget for an expensive camera.
Thank you. That has helped us!
Thanks Brady.
Thanks Brady. We have two Panasonic 1080p broadcast cameras in the auditorium, connected to a vmix pc via Blackmagic Decklink cards, so I have two questions: 1) Can I add either of these cameras via NDI to vMix through the router? 2) Which of these cameras will take the best still pictures? Thanks for a great video.
Using the sony a6600 because of the battery and crazy autofocus 😀.. We use it at church with some old Canon xa20/25.
I also own the G85.. but as my personal camera. One thing i dont like is the battery. You need an external source as it wont last for more than an hr. Also the autofocus is not good. I do like that it is cheaper to get a 300mm equivalent lens with a M43 than a Emount lens
Our cameras are all on tripods which means the in-lens stabilization is sufficient. Sony shines when it comes to AF, especially when tracking faces.
SONY a6400 rocks from the back of the auditorium in low light. We might be getting another one for B roll soon.
YES! I use it for everything! Although I do want to upgrade soon 😉
Maybe Sony a7c... but not sure yet.
Hello I would like to know if the camera would heat up when geared up with a hdmi output for more than a hour or so. We dont do internal recordings at our church. I already own a6300 personally. Just want to know how it will work for Church live. Thank you in advance
@@Premnicholussamson No, the a6400 does not have any overheating issues. I use the plug-in power and have it turned on all day. I hope this helps.
What can you recommend for a situation where the camera has to be 50-70 feet away from the pulpit? Am I limited to using a camcorder with a good optical zoom? Using a 400mm lens with these DSLR’s doesn’t seem like a great option when the lens itself costs more than the camera...
Great video!
Cheers 🙏
At least 2 of these cameras overheat. Would be nice to take that info along when comparing these.
They’ll turn off after 30-45 minutes of use (even when not recording)
Which ones
Awesome video
Glad you enjoyed!
M50 mark II has clean HDMI for streaming. M50 doesn't, you need to turn off AF.
Hi, love your videos.. Very helpful and informative. Question: what lens (or lenses) would you recommend when using the same a7s III in church in order to get good videos? Thanks
Helpful video, thanks mate. Pushing the budget a little more, what’s your thoughts on the Sony A7C? Love to go to the Sony AS7iii but can’t stretch that far! Cheers
A7C is interesting. But for that budget, I’d probably go for the Panasonic GH5.
I was like 1000. Yip!
As a recovering Southern Baptist, I'm definitely not one who wants to help any church do ANYTHING. However, I will make an observation that could be useful.
I wouldn't recommend cameras with large sensors for this use case. You're probably better off with a more traditional HD camcorder.
Why? Depth of field. Sure, shallow depth of field looks nice and artsy in the movies, but those movies have dedicated focus pullers and specific marks that the talent has to hit.
If you're streaming a church service, you won't have full control over where everyone involved will be. So, you increase the risk of people being out of focus if you have shallow depth of field.
Sure, you could buy a camera with a large sensor and stop the lens down for the same effect, but at that point, why have the larger sensor in the first place?
What do you mean 30 minute record limit with canon m50? Thanks Pastor.
Why not use some of the newer iphones?
Can a Sony a6400 do a livestream for church
I am looking at getting one of these three, probably the m50 because my budget is pretty small, my question is which lens do I get? I am pretty sure my senior pastor will want it mounted on the back wall which is probably 35 feet from the platform. What lens should I get to get a quality image from that distance that still gets maybe 15 feet of the platform in frame?
Can anyone advise me on a canon 77D. We do mainly livestreaming, is it any good for this?
We've got the Sony and important to note it's an 8bit cam, so the whole S-log thing is a bit overblown.
Yep! That’s why I dedicated a couple of minutes to it here 10:39.
I’ve been looking at getting a Fuji. Why would you suggest of these over an equivalently priced Fuji?
what do you recommend for handling audio?
Hi Everyone. I am new to this camera scene. I have a budget of $1000 and my main priority is video recording, Live stream recording, my church has low light (camera that takes good low light videos) and our church service is 2hours (you dont want the camera to die during a live streaming). Please help ????
This comment is on October 4, 2021. Are livestream cameras in short supply?
I have a M50 for this purpose, which lens do you recommend?
Good video but the music in the background is very annoying, distracting.
Thank you for this Insightful video Brady about budget cameras for churches. I would like to know is it good option to get a camcorder or a mirror less cameras for Livestream in long run for churches ?
Hopefully this is helpful but we’ve been using both, out main safe camera is the Canon HF G50, and one of the side cameras is a m6 MKII, the third camera an older camcorder but the quality is not on par with the other 2.
When I replace the 3rd camera I hope to get another camcorder. For 2 reasons, they natively support power to the device and the ability to use “power zoom” I can buy a LANC remote to adjust my framing.
That said I love the m6mkii for our twice per week talking head segments I do with the pastor.
If you are still wondering I would say go for a Mirror less, a good camcorder that would match $1K Mirrorless Image quality, would cost you close to $7K or more, the best part about mirrorless is you can easily change lenses
My church is looking to upgrade our live stream cameras. Our cameras are set about 60 feet away from the stage. We never move the cameras from their position on the stands. Their only purpose is the live video stream so low light is key. Our budget is around $1,500 any advice?
Gh4 or g85? For production (pre-recording/studio setting)
Have you ever heard of magic lantern? If so what are you thoughts for church videos?
th-cam.com/video/xOiRKCi60TM/w-d-xo.html
Oh yeah. When I was using Canon T3is and Panasonic GH2s years ago I hacked all my camera bodies with Magic Lantern. Nowadays I don't because cameras have progressed so much.
@@prochurchtools good to know! Thank you!
is there any difference for 10 bit 4:2:2 vs 10 bit 4:2:0?
Hey Brady, much love from India. ❤️
Just a small request, I have the Atem Mini Pro ISO and I am about to transition from a Canon Camcorder to my first mirrorless camera! I've been looking at BMPCC4k since with the ATEM they can be shaded and triggered remotely. AND I saw your earlier videos about how you also use Pocket 4k for your streaming setup.
1. What are your thoughts on it? Would you still suggest someone to pull the plug on that model or get a Sony or Panasonic?
2. Please do separate the RECORDING and STREAMING categories. Most of us are doing live streams and these 30m record limit cameras are just not for us!
Thank you for the efforts and have a great day!
Sam, already did a separate video on the best cameras for live streaming! If live is your priority, then yes, the BMPCC is going to be your best option IMO in this price range: th-cam.com/video/fQYeRBJl-dY/w-d-xo.html
@@prochurchtools Thanks for the response! Does the lack of autofocus make it hard for a one-man streaming setup?
@@musicxsam1 I wouldn't recommend you rely on autofocus for live streaming.
Pretty sure the Sony Kit lens has OIS/OSS
Correct. Lens does! Camera does not.
this setup can be use for anything else?
You almost always recommend a DSLR for church video. Wouldn't a straight up video camera like a Canon Vixia HF R800 for around $250 be a viable option?
I'd argue that going second hand and getting an even more powerful video camera would be even better than the R800
So Brady why did you recommend the g85 vs the g95? Both are under 1k, and the autofocus is apperently better on the g95 and comes with vlog free of charge.
I think it also has 10bit codex doesn't it?
G95 isn’t under $1,000 with a lens, so it didn’t qualify for this list.
@@prochurchtools They must have just dropped the price. Amazon has it for 997 with the same lens as the g85. Now you got to make a new video bro. =)
Photographer church $1000 other cameras $700 $450
I have a question about the Canon camera. Does the record limit also apply to the streaming functionality?
It does. But if you use the Canon EOS Webcam Utility program you can bypass it.
The Canon EOS Rebel SL3 could be also a valid alternative. No 30min-limit on the Clean-HDMI output. Full flippable Touchscreen. In-camera-stabilisation. Good AF. No high framerates in HD and 4k though (max 1080p60). At a pricepoint of $699 with a kit lens.
@@prochurchtools Your videos are super helpful! How about the SL3 mentioned below? Any downsides compared to the other 3? Also do all the 3 you mentioned do clean HDMI out? As this website doesn't officially state the M50: www.elgato.com/en/gaming/cam-link/camera-check
@@prochurchtools Does Canon EOS Webcam Utility program give you full 1080 Resolution ?
How does Nucleus Media differ from Canva?
Canva is a software program that allows you to design graphics. Nucleus Media is a resource site that gives you access to download done-for-you media.
Any feedback on the Sony for live streaming?
Feedback? Not certain what you mean by that. If you're looking for step-by-step instructions on how to configure your live stream with one of these camera models, I'd just search those terms in TH-cam. Here's a video I found quickly that may be helpful: th-cam.com/video/kfTn2UixKAA/w-d-xo.html
We're using it, the A6400, works fine, piping it into OBS using a Camlink 4K. Autofocus is great for moving between band, host, speaker etc.
I am very happy livestreaming with a6400 (stock lens) through OBS. Here is a sample: th-cam.com/video/xHJmgnkHTrk/w-d-xo.html
Can you use any of these for live-streaming?
Yep! I mention that at about 1:00.
@@prochurchtools Thanks! Sorry, I did skip around the video! Thanks for sharing!
@@RobNieves All good 🙏
So I think I've watched all of your videos, but I never heard where Alex went. At first, I thought it was just covid, then it seemed permanent. What's up?
Man come on. Churches don't need these cameras. They just need camcorders.
@Brady: What lens would you recommend for streaming from about 70 to 80 feet away? Right now I have the canon hf cam optical zoomed in, but I'm getting a lot of grain from the light adjustments. I put more light on the subject and ended up with haloing. th-cam.com/video/0DRe3hQ9l1A/w-d-xo.html (11 min in)
The content is good but the background music is annoying.