When you consider the cost of the camera and pro-level lenses, the GH5 comes in well less than half the cost and for a church shooting in predominantly controlled situations, the expense doesn't make sense to me personally.
Very reasonable take, Darren. I love my GH5. I've been shooting Panasonic for years. The stabilization of the GH5 is unmatched. The dynamic range, autofocus, sensor size, and built-in picture profiles/codecs in the Sony are all superior - so for me, that was enough to make the leap.
@@prochurchtools yeah, if I was shooting in diverse conditions the value proposition may be different. It's certainly a better camera for many use cases.
OMG that Manfrotto Friction Arm is what I needed to complete my all in one setup for the studio.....God Bless you Brady!!! that saved me the top part that I am currently using with a boom arm... pure genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great video Brady! As always very educational and inspiring! Wish our small churches took social media and livestreaming more seriously. Would love to get gear like this to produce amazing content. Thanks!
Haven’t even watched it yet, but YES!!! Been looking into this camera, and what better way than to hear you talk about it!!! Thanks Brady ☺️🔥💪🏼 .. now let’s get the video started!
Yo Brady! Love your content! Do you have any recommendations for other Christian TH-cam creators? It would be awesome to hear about who inspires you or who you see as up and coming creators.
Hi Brady. Another great video! Thank you for your continued work on behalf of small churches. I always appreciate your support and sensible solutions for the smaller church. Hopefully 2021 will see a rise in our congregation's fortunes and we can make Pro Church Tools a part of our new missions. Have a great Christmas by the Falls! Bill, the geriatric fossil.
Bro, this was an amazing video. I'm new to this camera stuff but you held my attention while educating me on.a subject that could be very complicated. Thank you!
They really disappointed me this year. They've got a great line of lenses though with their new RF mount. They'll make the fixes needed with their mirrorless cameras and make a strong comeback I'm sure.
My favorite quote about this camera is from Gerald Undone: "The Sony A7SIII has more dynamic range at over 100,000 ISO than the EOS R5 does at base ISO"
Hey Brady! Love what you do! Thank you for all the hard work. Would you recommend the Sony A7C for live streaming over the BMPC4K? (The A7Siii is not something we can reach for just yet)
Check out these two videos (plugging this camera into these setups is pretty straightforward): 1. th-cam.com/video/kHW9KLs8DoA/w-d-xo.html 2. th-cam.com/video/LrZ7WFGHaLg/w-d-xo.html
Considering getting this, but how would you compare this to a Sony PXW-Z90V 4k HDR XDCAM for pure video use for a church service? I know several churches that use the Z90V, and you can purchase an entire television setup with tripod, zoom control, and on camera monitor for the same price as the a7s3 body alone. Thoughts?
How out of balance does your gimbal get when you alter the zoom on your 24-105 lens? I'm a big fan of the older E mount APS-C 18-105 because the lens barrel doesn't extend at all while zooming so the center of gravity doesn't change significantly which keeps my gimbal balanced. The other nice thing about the 18-105 is that the zoom ring is electronic which means I don't have to worry about hitting the stops if I use a follow focus motor to turn the ring. I've been waiting for a full frame zoom with similar features but I'm not sure the 24-105 is it. What's your take? Thanks.
As for balance, that's one thing I love about the new DJI RS2, the balance algorithm has been refined and the motors are stronger. So even when I zoom, it still shows the motors in the "green" indicator which means they're not overloaded.
For live streaming/recording your services? I'd check this out (though the A7S III would be great for this application also): th-cam.com/video/fQYeRBJl-dY/w-d-xo.html
Hey Brady, I just had a production company recommend the JVC GY-HM250 to us as a church. Do you have any thoughts on this camera vs the Blackmagic or Sony A7S III?
What lens would you recommend for shooting from a tripod, about 100 ft away from stage, tracking the pastor up close for our livestream messages and worship team wide shot from back of the room?
at that distance your tripod will be more important (and probably more expensive) than your lens choice if you're dead set on tracking the pastor up close. What camera are you shooting on?
The A7SIII is a terrific camera for sure. Several networks are using this as a B-cam shooting SLOG3 right alongside the FS7, FX9, and FX6 doing "Film Style" production. The XLR adaptor is a gamechanger for DSLR cameras. However, be aware that this is NOT a great camera for multicamera production that most churches have been forced into through COVID. For most churches you will need long runs of SDI cable to get from your worship room to your switchpoint. We have our tech both in the same room and our runs for 7 cameras is still 185 feet to the nearest camera. HDMI doesn't cut it for that long a run. You can convert HDMI to SDI using a Blackmagic converter but that proves difficult to maintain a tidy set up especially if the camera is going to have any hand-held activity. GOSH BRADY, DO YOU THINK THE A7SIII GRAPHIC IS LARGE ENOUGH? It doesn't cover your face yet. :
I'm with you on this, Richard. And this is why it's important, when you're in the market for a camera, to know what you need it for. The classic adage is finding "the right tool for the job." So as an example, if your number one priority is live streaming, I wouldn't go with this camera. In that case, I'd start here: th-cam.com/video/fQYeRBJl-dY/w-d-xo.html. But what's great about the A7S III is that it *can* do everything. So going back to "the right tool for the job" idea, in churches we're often wearing so many different hats, engaged in so many different projects, the "right tool for the job" might be a different camera every other project - which is why I landed on the A7S III. Because it could be your go-to camera for virtually any project.
@@prochurchtools Thank you. Some people were pushing that way but I had doubts about the quality as well. Thanks for the confirmation. I have questions about streaming but I'll watch some more of your videos first! Thank you for the time you take to put these videos together. Really helpful!
Is this camera user friendly? We're looking for an option to use with nonprofessional camera personnel. We're a small church that has been using my old Sony video camera. Needless to say, the quality is not the best. Can you recommend an option or a video you've previously made?
I think Sony has made some big strides with their new menu system that makes this camera more user-friendly. I still think the Blackmagic cameras' UI is the best. I'd check out this video on those cameras (they're also more affordable): th-cam.com/video/fQYeRBJl-dY/w-d-xo.html
Hey guys I´m new to this and I need some help. I hope you guys can help me out a bit. This is issue: we are setting up a livestream setup for our church and the only place that we can set up the cameras is on the back of the room (we already have some camcorders running from there and it the position is fine) our main problem is the image quality that we get. we decided to upgrade so we bought 2 Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Cameras now I´m wondering what would be a good lens for this task since the stage is about 20 - 30 meters away from the cameras.
Is there a college degree that I can get in order to work with AVL. I would love to major in sound, video and lighting production. Does any team leaders have degrees or credentials into this kind of stuff?
I was so excited for it. The overheating is a non-starter for me. But beyond that, the lack of CLOG2, lesser dynamic range compared to the A7S III, the codecs that are difficult to edit, and the expensive storage media are other reasons it isn’t in the same league as the A7S III despite the similar price.
@@NextLevelGTA If that means you went with the A7iii, then prepare for some seriously great photos and video! (and if it meant you went with the BMPCC then prepare for some *great* video!)
Dismissive comments like this aren't helpful for folks. Your statement is also just untrue. I'll use myself as an example, when I was a 21-year-old Media Director at a new church plant, image quality was my number one pursuit when creating videos. It didn't matter if I was shooting with a used Canon T3i and our church had 80 weekly attenders. Skills and passion aren't determined by size of church.
@@prochurchtools No, but budget is. This camera with a kit lens is 108% of our yearly Tech & Band budget. I agree with how dismissive comments aren't helpful, and I love the content you produce (seriously, you do great job!) but most of your content is geared towards churches with a 'Media Director' - most churches don't have those. So you cater towards churches who have these positions/budgets/initiatives that can do these kind of things and there's nothing wrong with that. The dismissive comments I think come from church techs who want help making awesome content, find your channel and find they can't afford the things you talk about. I've been and am there. Again, not your fault and I think you are doing a great job.
@@shanemitchellspencer My apologies I should have said most wouldn’t care. I’ve helped about 10 churches that had a 2000 ish budget fir a full stream setup. This camera would be amongst the last choice for them being so pricey and considering most pastors don’t know or care about dynamic range. We all watch videos on our phones and only cinema geeks care about dynamic range. You’re doing an awesome job man not trying to be mean or anything I just don’t agree.
@@shanemitchellspencer Which is why I included the final part of the video starting at 12:53. If the issue is the price, we'll have more videos coming soon on different options. But in my experience, ~$5K is in a budget range that is accessible for most North American churches. Of course, it really comes down to what your church values and how it chooses to spend its money. I've had countless conversations with churches that found the $5K for their Easter mailer campaign (as an example), but couldn't find it for video gear. As for the idea that "most churches don't" have a media director. I'd disagree. The pandemic has forced virtually every church deeper into digital ministry. There may not be someone in your church with an official title, and it may not be their only responsibility, but almost every church has someone that is tasked with these sorts of things. To that end, what matters more - a title? Or the responsibility of getting stuff done? Keep in mind, when I was the Media Director at my church plant, I was a part-time intern and my meager monthly pay was subsidized with a government grant. So, my title was cool. But that didn't mean I was full-time or on salary. I was a college intern! But my church valued digital. We were passionate about it. So that's why we made it work. It's hard to pick up on tone through a TH-cam comment, so don't read this as me being antagonistic, I just speak/write very matter-of-factly. But we need to move beyond painting broad strokes like "small churches can't do this" or "only big churches do that." That may be true in individual cases. But in my experience, what a church *values* is what matters - not how many people attend on a weekend.
@@prochurchtools I jumped the gun in reading comments before finishing the video. I'll look forward to your upcoming videos. I understand various churches prioritize different things in different ways. My context on the $5000 is in Southern Maine and New England - most of our Churches are smaller. Your experience and expertise stems from the NA region as a whole. Our church would be considered small by many in the greater NA region, but large in Maine. It's just context I guess. As per the question/comment on Title vs Responsibility: In my local church, we do value digital content but aren't at a level (Or haven't felt the need) for this type (Sony A7SIII) of quality. Me being the nerdiest I always push for higher quality but am often met with budget issues or "Will anyone even notice that improvement though?". It was a large push just to get permission to buy a refurbished iMac to use ProPresenter on. ProPresenter itself was a push! I'm also not employed by the church and the worship pastor is considered the media director. There's difficulty in just getting things done though. I have a full time job and a crazy one year old to keep from jumping off couches head first. In this (very) narrow view of our church the title does matter. Without the title it's hard to get things done or communicated. Those issues are larger than the scope of this video for sure though! Thanks for the thoughtful response. Hope you all are safe.
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This is the camera I've been waiting for! Links to every piece of gear mentioned in the video in the description!
When you consider the cost of the camera and pro-level lenses, the GH5 comes in well less than half the cost and for a church shooting in predominantly controlled situations, the expense doesn't make sense to me personally.
Very reasonable take, Darren. I love my GH5. I've been shooting Panasonic for years. The stabilization of the GH5 is unmatched. The dynamic range, autofocus, sensor size, and built-in picture profiles/codecs in the Sony are all superior - so for me, that was enough to make the leap.
@@prochurchtools yeah, if I was shooting in diverse conditions the value proposition may be different. It's certainly a better camera for many use cases.
OMG that Manfrotto Friction Arm is what I needed to complete my all in one setup for the studio.....God Bless you Brady!!! that saved me the top part that I am currently using with a boom arm... pure genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So glad it was helpful!
Great video Brady! As always very educational and inspiring! Wish our small churches took social media and livestreaming more seriously. Would love to get gear like this to produce amazing content. Thanks!
Appreciate your time, Eric!
Haven’t even watched it yet, but YES!!! Been looking into this camera, and what better way than to hear you talk about it!!! Thanks Brady ☺️🔥💪🏼
.. now let’s get the video started!
Let's goooooooo
Love what you are doing for the church! Subscribed! I just got started with my channel.
Yo Brady! Love your content! Do you have any recommendations for other Christian TH-cam creators? It would be awesome to hear about who inspires you or who you see as up and coming creators.
Hi Brady. Another great video! Thank you for your continued work on behalf of small churches. I always appreciate your support and sensible solutions for the smaller church. Hopefully 2021 will see a rise in our congregation's fortunes and we can make Pro Church Tools a part of our new missions. Have a great Christmas by the Falls! Bill, the geriatric fossil.
Thanks for the well wishes, Bill!
A7siii is a “forever” camera. It literally does everything. I need one! Only thing I can afford right now is my a7sii. Maybe one day though.
I like that thinking, Jacob!
Have you considered using a Metabones adapter with your Sony A7siii and using your Canon lenses?
Thanks Brady!
Bro, this was an amazing video. I'm new to this camera stuff but you held my attention while educating me on.a subject that could be very complicated. Thank you!
Very kind 🙏
"WITH NO OVERHEATING" 😂😂😂. Such a jab at Canon. Love it.
They really disappointed me this year. They've got a great line of lenses though with their new RF mount. They'll make the fixes needed with their mirrorless cameras and make a strong comeback I'm sure.
Great review! Notice the Peter McKinnon accessories flex! :) Awesome work!
Thanks! 😀
That t shirt is wigging me out. Keep thinking there's a glitch.
My favorite quote about this camera is from Gerald Undone: "The Sony A7SIII has more dynamic range at over 100,000 ISO than the EOS R5 does at base ISO"
My hunch is that the new Sony A7IV in 2021 will be even better for churches as it will be more financially accessible!
Hey Brady! Love what you do! Thank you for all the hard work. Would you recommend the Sony A7C for live streaming over the BMPC4K? (The A7Siii is not something we can reach for just yet)
Thanks for the info. How about a video on using the camera for streaming?
Check out these two videos (plugging this camera into these setups is pretty straightforward):
1. th-cam.com/video/kHW9KLs8DoA/w-d-xo.html
2. th-cam.com/video/LrZ7WFGHaLg/w-d-xo.html
what's the file size for 4K 1.5hr or 2hr full worship service? and, do you have trouble editing it?
Considering getting this, but how would you compare this to a Sony PXW-Z90V 4k HDR XDCAM for pure video use for a church service? I know several churches that use the Z90V, and you can purchase an entire television setup with tripod, zoom control, and on camera monitor for the same price as the a7s3 body alone. Thoughts?
“Flying in a helicopter over the Canadian Rockies” I felt like Peter Mckinnon was talkin for a second
How out of balance does your gimbal get when you alter the zoom on your 24-105 lens? I'm a big fan of the older E mount APS-C 18-105 because the lens barrel doesn't extend at all while zooming so the center of gravity doesn't change significantly which keeps my gimbal balanced. The other nice thing about the 18-105 is that the zoom ring is electronic which means I don't have to worry about hitting the stops if I use a follow focus motor to turn the ring. I've been waiting for a full frame zoom with similar features but I'm not sure the 24-105 is it. What's your take? Thanks.
As for balance, that's one thing I love about the new DJI RS2, the balance algorithm has been refined and the motors are stronger. So even when I zoom, it still shows the motors in the "green" indicator which means they're not overloaded.
what’s your suggestion for 9’ low ceilings and a good lower light camera? we can’t really afford ptz cameras. we shoot video from our phones atm.
For live streaming/recording your services? I'd check this out (though the A7S III would be great for this application also): th-cam.com/video/fQYeRBJl-dY/w-d-xo.html
Hey Brady, I just had a production company recommend the JVC GY-HM250 to us as a church. Do you have any thoughts on this camera vs the Blackmagic or Sony A7S III?
What lens would you recommend for shooting from a tripod, about 100 ft away from stage, tracking the pastor up close for our livestream messages and worship team wide shot from back of the room?
at that distance your tripod will be more important (and probably more expensive) than your lens choice if you're dead set on tracking the pastor up close. What camera are you shooting on?
The A7SIII is a terrific camera for sure. Several networks are using this as a B-cam shooting SLOG3 right alongside the FS7, FX9, and FX6 doing "Film Style" production. The XLR adaptor is a gamechanger for DSLR cameras. However, be aware that this is NOT a great camera for multicamera production that most churches have been forced into through COVID. For most churches you will need long runs of SDI cable to get from your worship room to your switchpoint. We have our tech both in the same room and our runs for 7 cameras is still 185 feet to the nearest camera. HDMI doesn't cut it for that long a run. You can convert HDMI to SDI using a Blackmagic converter but that proves difficult to maintain a tidy set up especially if the camera is going to have any hand-held activity. GOSH BRADY, DO YOU THINK THE A7SIII GRAPHIC IS LARGE ENOUGH? It doesn't cover your face yet. :
I'm with you on this, Richard. And this is why it's important, when you're in the market for a camera, to know what you need it for. The classic adage is finding "the right tool for the job."
So as an example, if your number one priority is live streaming, I wouldn't go with this camera. In that case, I'd start here: th-cam.com/video/fQYeRBJl-dY/w-d-xo.html.
But what's great about the A7S III is that it *can* do everything. So going back to "the right tool for the job" idea, in churches we're often wearing so many different hats, engaged in so many different projects, the "right tool for the job" might be a different camera every other project - which is why I landed on the A7S III. Because it could be your go-to camera for virtually any project.
I'm going crossed eyed looking at your shirt....................
What do you think of PTZ cameras for church? I'm trying to look at the quality between that and a normal video camera
Not a fan. You can achieve greater image quality at a more much affordable price point with a standard mirrorless/DSLR/cinema camera.
@@prochurchtools Thank you. Some people were pushing that way but I had doubts about the quality as well. Thanks for the confirmation. I have questions about streaming but I'll watch some more of your videos first! Thank you for the time you take to put these videos together. Really helpful!
Is this camera user friendly? We're looking for an option to use with nonprofessional camera personnel. We're a small church that has been using my old Sony video camera. Needless to say, the quality is not the best.
Can you recommend an option or a video you've previously made?
I think Sony has made some big strides with their new menu system that makes this camera more user-friendly. I still think the Blackmagic cameras' UI is the best. I'd check out this video on those cameras (they're also more affordable): th-cam.com/video/fQYeRBJl-dY/w-d-xo.html
Is there any internal recording limitation (time)?
also don’t they make cannon/sony adapters for lenses?
What are your thoughts about the a7c - basically the little brother
Hey guys I´m new to this and I need some help. I hope you guys can help me out a bit. This is issue: we are setting up a livestream setup for our church and the only place that we can set up the cameras is on the back of the room (we already have some camcorders running from there and it the position is fine) our main problem is the image quality that we get. we decided to upgrade
so we bought 2 Blackmagic
Pocket Cinema Cameras now I´m wondering what would be a good lens for this task since the stage is about 20 - 30 meters away from the cameras.
Hey Brody, 2 years later would you still recommend this camera ?
100%
Is there a college degree that I can get in order to work with AVL. I would love to major in sound, video and lighting production. Does any team leaders have degrees or credentials into this kind of stuff?
Is this camera compatible with SLINGSTUDIO?
Gotta love $ony glass. Makes you pull a 2nd mortgage. One reason why I haven't left shooting with my GH5. A7$iii i$ a very nice camera, but $hee$h.
how can i send you a question not related to this specific camera?
You lost me at Sony 😂
So if your budget allowed only one lens which one would you chose ?
Sony 24-105mm f4!
Great Vid, Good info..
Thanks for watching!
So not the BM Pocket? Or is this better for double the price?
5:59 👍
I bought A7III instead. Still a great choice?
It's still is a terrific camera, you could always upgrade to the A7siii and use the A7iii as a second angle
Great video dude ...
Thanks, man. Glad you and your family are safe and home. ❤️
@@prochurchtools Cheers mate. I'm interested to know your thoughts on the Canon R5??
I was so excited for it. The overheating is a non-starter for me. But beyond that, the lack of CLOG2, lesser dynamic range compared to the A7S III, the codecs that are difficult to edit, and the expensive storage media are other reasons it isn’t in the same league as the A7S III despite the similar price.
Beautiful camera but I don't think my church would put up that much money for it.
Bro what is it about Canadians and dope video 😂
We were talking about that in the office just this week. 🤷♂️
@@prochurchtools lol y’all just on it man 😂 love the content, we love nucleus! Thanks for bringing excellence back to the body of Christ
@@jerran_duty Thanks for the kind words. 🤝
For real! All of my favorite TH-camrs are from Canada!
Another note: the BMPCC 4/6k *CANNOT* shoot photos. They seriously look like trash.
Thanks Bryan! We were debating between the BMPCC4k and this A7iii, and your comment was very helpful for us to decide.
@@NextLevelGTA If that means you went with the A7iii, then prepare for some seriously great photos and video! (and if it meant you went with the BMPCC then prepare for some *great* video!)
@@brynocerouss Thanks! We decided the A7iii for now with a Sigma ART lens. Have a Merry Christmas!
@@NextLevelGTA great choice!
Hi what is your favor lens when filming this talking head ?
No small to medium sized church is worrying about dynamic range lol
Dismissive comments like this aren't helpful for folks. Your statement is also just untrue. I'll use myself as an example, when I was a 21-year-old Media Director at a new church plant, image quality was my number one pursuit when creating videos. It didn't matter if I was shooting with a used Canon T3i and our church had 80 weekly attenders. Skills and passion aren't determined by size of church.
@@prochurchtools No, but budget is. This camera with a kit lens is 108% of our yearly Tech & Band budget. I agree with how dismissive comments aren't helpful, and I love the content you produce (seriously, you do great job!) but most of your content is geared towards churches with a 'Media Director' - most churches don't have those.
So you cater towards churches who have these positions/budgets/initiatives that can do these kind of things and there's nothing wrong with that. The dismissive comments I think come from church techs who want help making awesome content, find your channel and find they can't afford the things you talk about. I've been and am there. Again, not your fault and I think you are doing a great job.
@@shanemitchellspencer My apologies I should have said most wouldn’t care. I’ve helped about 10 churches that had a 2000 ish budget fir a full stream setup. This camera would be amongst the last choice for them being so pricey and considering most pastors don’t know or care about dynamic range. We all watch videos on our phones and only cinema geeks care about dynamic range. You’re doing an awesome job man not trying to be mean or anything I just don’t agree.
@@shanemitchellspencer Which is why I included the final part of the video starting at 12:53. If the issue is the price, we'll have more videos coming soon on different options. But in my experience, ~$5K is in a budget range that is accessible for most North American churches. Of course, it really comes down to what your church values and how it chooses to spend its money. I've had countless conversations with churches that found the $5K for their Easter mailer campaign (as an example), but couldn't find it for video gear.
As for the idea that "most churches don't" have a media director. I'd disagree. The pandemic has forced virtually every church deeper into digital ministry. There may not be someone in your church with an official title, and it may not be their only responsibility, but almost every church has someone that is tasked with these sorts of things.
To that end, what matters more - a title? Or the responsibility of getting stuff done? Keep in mind, when I was the Media Director at my church plant, I was a part-time intern and my meager monthly pay was subsidized with a government grant. So, my title was cool. But that didn't mean I was full-time or on salary. I was a college intern! But my church valued digital. We were passionate about it. So that's why we made it work.
It's hard to pick up on tone through a TH-cam comment, so don't read this as me being antagonistic, I just speak/write very matter-of-factly. But we need to move beyond painting broad strokes like "small churches can't do this" or "only big churches do that." That may be true in individual cases. But in my experience, what a church *values* is what matters - not how many people attend on a weekend.
@@prochurchtools I jumped the gun in reading comments before finishing the video. I'll look forward to your upcoming videos.
I understand various churches prioritize different things in different ways. My context on the $5000 is in Southern Maine and New England - most of our Churches are smaller. Your experience and expertise stems from the NA region as a whole. Our church would be considered small by many in the greater NA region, but large in Maine. It's just context I guess.
As per the question/comment on Title vs Responsibility: In my local church, we do value digital content but aren't at a level (Or haven't felt the need) for this type (Sony A7SIII) of quality. Me being the nerdiest I always push for higher quality but am often met with budget issues or "Will anyone even notice that improvement though?". It was a large push just to get permission to buy a refurbished iMac to use ProPresenter on. ProPresenter itself was a push! I'm also not employed by the church and the worship pastor is considered the media director. There's difficulty in just getting things done though. I have a full time job and a crazy one year old to keep from jumping off couches head first. In this (very) narrow view of our church the title does matter. Without the title it's hard to get things done or communicated. Those issues are larger than the scope of this video for sure though!
Thanks for the thoughtful response. Hope you all are safe.