My observations after watching this video: PS’s immediate retort, direct steadfast eye contact, tone and body language showed he was being truthful, has a sharp mind, and a nerve of steel. We can see that his testimony was consistent till the end, he didn’t crumble under tremendous pressure. He cud hv remained as a lawyer and enjoy a brilliant prestigious career, or joined PAP, earn much more, enjoy a strong backing, but no, instead he had chosen the tough n treacherous path to lead the opposition, some hv been sued or charged or exiled. He was always well prepared when raising issues during Parliamentary debates. When he speaks, people listen, just like with President Tharman. Both of them deliver. No doubt, PS is a very outstanding and courageous leader, and has a spine. The people will judge and remember.
I kinda like Pritam guts. He is suitable to be the leader of opposition to the ruling party. He doesn't bend easy and we need oppositions like that for check and balance. Raeesah is wrong obviously for lying, so it's right that she resigned. But I kinda feel for the rest of the team mates here. I mean PAP was never 100% honest all the time and have made mistakes too. So...
Lee kuan yew said " whoever governs this country must have the iron in him. " Mr Pritam is showing all shades of iron. He has more steel and iron than ... well we know
Yes. It is coming across like a much higher standard is being asked of the WP than the PAP. Just bad optics. PS's standing has risen in my eyes. I used to think that he was just lucky to replace Low TK as head of WP.
Mr Tong appears so bias and against WP. He is not open minded and seems so bent to nail Pritam Singh with his line of questioning. Raeesah Khan is a liar and will continue lying. I am a strong PAP supporter, by the way but I watch this proceeding with an objective mind.
I agree with what Jenny Lim says about Edwin Tong. Edwin, also talks in loops, sometimes tripping himself. He doesn't come across as having the sharp mind we expect of a Senior Counsel.
Why keep asking Mr Singh what other people said or asked? Sounds like manipulative questioning meant to trap a less seasoned witness into saying something under duress.
If he knows the truth, but nth but the truth, whatever questions, leading, manipulative or difficult should be answered correctly in a calm, confident fashion
Yes consistently interrupting questions, interjecting with useless grunts and remarks, skirting issues, refusing to answer directly, playing with words. We can see through it. He too was not being truthful.
Obviously, you have to bombard with questions. Integrity is the backbone of good governance, as much as they are the opposition, they are still part of the government that decides every direction, every step the society takes. OFC scrutiny will be present.
The questions should also be leading, if it's not leading, then where the hell is the session going? The answer is either, yes they are lying, or no they are not. If they are not leading anywhere then, there's no answers.
When you are accosted with a sneaky lawyer of higher authority trying to change your testimony in 10 different ways you fight till the death to maintain your original testimony. This is the kind of leader Singapore deserves. A leader that will not be bullied.
@@brmin7312 No, you don't understand how law works... In their world, ones truth is never the absolute truth, any facet of truth can be the brought upon and presented as main fact of the case. It depends how you put them in words actually. Even if you are the plaintiff victim of the case, lawyers can make it seems like you are a defendant in seconds. Then if you said something off somehow, the judge will give in to their prerogative. See? Your version of truth is NOT THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH... You just have to be the smartest guy in the room. That's why lawyer's fee are pricey. It's not like, you have one version of truth, then you are invincible. That's not how it works. This kind of mindset is simplistic and too naïve; exactly how a kid's mind would work. We are not kids right...?
@@yecly Don't be too smart. We look at how he was not answering the questions. How evasive he was. And the number of times using " irrelevant " as not wanting to answer. You are right. We are not small kids
@@brmin7312 PS was evasive, if that how you want to see it. Or he can be collecting receipts to fill in whatever holes he has been to before. ET is too not that particular hong gan or honest to stick it to the main issue. He had his own narrative and he DIRECTING PS to fit in his narrative. The two meet, hence the 9 hours of tiresome session. Look, everybody have their own agenda. We don't have to be naïve about it. Like throwing a simplistic claim of how "if one is truthful, he would be immune to probing questions from all angles". It's rather, if you are gullible and don't know how things work, then you are just DOOMED, crash and burn... Don't be too naïve yeah... Trust me, both of the party already planned everything, roles, what to speak and ways to win the day. It's just up to who's smarter than whom...
Pritam answered clearly ET's question of "why do u think Raeesah lied" but ET threw a childish hissy fit over his response of "dissociation disorder" even saying "it's inappropriate to bring this up". So what does ET want!? PS answer u not happy, he don't answer u also not happy. He needs to go. Not fit to be a minister at all.
For 3 months the PAP did not ask Pritam in parliament if Ms Khan lied. That would have forced Pritam to tell the truth and Ms Khan would have resigned much earlier. They didn't do that only because they wanted to drag this out as long as possible to smear the WP. This could have ended much sooner had the PAP wanted to. They did not.
Wow, your ability to twist and turn the blame on a party not involve is incredible. To prove your immensely Low IQ, WP knew she lied on 10 August while the parliament (in your words PAP) only knew she lied on 1 Nov. not sure who is the one dragging this out as long as possible.
@@mossad1438 Did the PAP asked the WP leadership in parliament if she lied between 10 August and 1 November? They did not. What's the best time to provide evidence? In a COP where it's done under oath. Who decides on the commencement of the COP? PAP. Did anyone in the WP leadership refuse to testify under oath. No. They did so without delay. Was there a cover-up? No. They were not asked in parliament. You can twist and turn however you want. But these are the facts you cannot refute.
@@jpphua602 why would you ask if someone lie in parliament unless you assume they did which obviously no one even in their life thought of ?? When did it ever happen ?? This is precisely how serious this incident is because no one in the world will expect a mp who took a oath in parliament to lie. The fact that you think pap should ask WP if RK lied is alr wrong. let me ask you, would you have thought RK lied before she confessed in the parliament ?
@@jpphua602 your comments are obviously biased and how is not refusing to testify under an oath prove anything ? The amount of assumptions you made are crazy
@@mossad1438 Stop conflating everything. She lied. The WP leadership knew about it. Nobody asked. There was no cover up. The COP was convened by the PAP. The WP leadership testified under oath without delay. That's all to it. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.
What evidence does the WP has to prosecute her when she confessed to them. The only evidence that Raseah khan is lying is her own words. If WP try to turn her to the police, she can say: no I did not say I lied, then what? Remember this one is a liar. She can confessed that she lied, but she can also lied about not confessing that she lied. It is only rationale to tell her, if u really lied, go and confess to the police. Now she is trying to use her lies to take the party down.
What should happen next is obvious. Subject Ms Khan to a psychological examination. Recall her back to substantiate her "take the matter to the grave" statement as that's disputed by all 3 of the WP leadership. Anything less will cast the PAP in a bad light.
Hello. Mr chairman and Edwin Tong. If you want to assume, the two of you can go to any nearby kopitiam to assume all you want. Why subject all Singaporeans to 9 straight hours of torture. This is abuse of parliamentary privilege. Indranee, please do your job.
These sort of bullying is the reason why the PAP is losing their trusts and popularity. At least must give some respect to the legal voters who cast their legalise vote to put Pritam Singh into the parliament.
Hey Guys, Looking at these series of episodes in TH-cam I also feel like prepared to give my evidence to the COP. My evidence to the COP is why until today nobody in the COP is interested to ask Raeesha why and what motivated her to lie at the very beginning about the police in Parliament which did not happen. Nobody in COP panel or anyone criticising WP leaders is asking thus basic question and doesn't seem relevant and never cross their mind to ask this simple question until today. This is my evidence.
Exactly! They have completely digressed from finding out why the lying one is lying. It's like your child commits a crime but the guilty one is the parent???
She did not lie about the police in parliament. She heard it from a woman support group about the police. The fact that she lied is she accompanied the woman to the police station. And the reason is she was sexually assaulted before. Thus it was already clear to the Cop.
@@esthertsr why would you say that she was not lying when she mentioned that she was the one who accompanied the victim to Bedok police station? She wasn’t there… Does this not consider as a lie to you? A lie means a lie… In parliament you need evidence. Not those evidence that you heard or seen some where..
Yes. Agreed. It is a disgrace that it is being conducted like a criminal trial with the WP and their leadership and esp. PS as the accused. And iit appears from Mr Edwin Tong the accused was guilty unless they can prove themselves innocent completely turning the presumption of innocence upside down. Anyway, why is the attention not on RK. Looks like the Committee is deliberately targeting the WP and their leaders esp PS.
Is it just me that I find most of the topics are almost the same, just that it is restructured with different context. Trying to use different approach to forcefully point Pritam to the same direction .
Woh PS is very talented.. sharp n intelligent.. If there’s no of this much of conversation I would have not know of his competency ..he can be our leader …..
@@nsevv integrity is the backbone of good governance, don't forget! Malaysia, Philippines and many other countries for the sake of change, was induced to follow the path of 'brand new', 'fresh air', 'people's champions' and where did they end up? I don't want to dictate, who u should support, but it's a golden rule to put the policies and competency of the party as a whole first, over a leader's charms. Look at Trump, is America doing well? NO. Look at Biden, is America doing well? EVEN WORSE. Look at Duterte, is Philippines doing well? NO.
@@jpphua602 does the presidency affect largely the decision and policy making of this country? Her race is also transparent, yes she was part of the race, looking for a Malay as a president, but her race was never hidden. PLUS, her maternal side was a Malay, her father, an Indian, died early, she was then raised by her mother.
@@benjietan1358 Did you receive your check for the Covid stimulus package. Who approved that? The president. And she does not affect policy making? She can also veto bills by parliament and block key positions in government. Go do some research on the powers of a sitting president. Did you vote in the last presidential "election". I did not. Integrity?
Hope the protocols for the COP hearing be openly published in the news. This is to enable the public to judge whether the COP members had abused their rights. If yes, what will be the course of action against those COP members who do not adhere to the protocols.
ET literally explain the context and give evidences provided on every questions he asked. What else you want ? If it is the first time you guys see such questioning, it is how it is. please note that ET is just being professional as a “lawyer” and do not pretend to be the Mr Nice guy and beat around the bush. Let the truth prevail and do not take sides.
Son you are nearby. Anything I phone you you handle the finance department and administration work I am the ceo of the company. The assets all not spilt together put better I decide when to give to all. All sealed by 45 banks worldwide the condos and bungalows I bought. Names all put already included the Chinese girl johnathan ganesh wife future with tea party upon release. Claudia Eng and 2 daughtersm move in 0329. Compass heights condo. 11 sengkang Square lobby D singapore 545076 tel open your own phone line. Move in with daughters two first get johnathan ganesh bring him home. Aunty Loveleen kaur and aunty marjit kaur also can help take care all. Pritam only my lunch time meet me together we go wining and dining at restaurant in mall. Than I go back to work. On time. Exactly on time lunch hour is 12pm upto 1pm afternoon every day. So Paul pritam has to come by 11.50 am to work place and stand outside no talking.
His the leader mah, and the allegation from Ms Khan also involves him, what do u expect? Integrity is the backbone of good leadership, without it, what is a leader.
It's outrageous for Pritam Singh to say that Raeesah's lie did not damage the police's reputation. It was only after Raeesah's admission of the lie, that the police's reputation was redeemed. Pritam Singh's standing in the eyes of the public will have fallen because of this denial; Singapore expects better judgement from the leader of the opposition.
Chin Beng Liew, if you lied to your colleagues, are you saying that it impacts the police. Is the police coming to your house to ask you why you lie to your colleagues.
@@limrobert7837 Whatever is said in parliament is accessible to the public. The lie was about police insensitivity to the public. So it's quite different from a lie you tell your colleagues.
@@limrobert7837 what u mean by a lie is a lie lol. There are different lies with different levels of consequences. For eg, lying to a kid vs lying in parliament about the police not doing their duty to handle a sexual assault case
The police and ministers do not genuinely concern about their repuration when the public do not know. They have no integrity to come clean when the police lied in the Court. COP is merely a wayang.
I am wondering if this is how a legal suit or inquiry is done ? Making many “presume guilty” assumptions without proof and making direction to the person if there is such a possibility and if you say yes, you are kinda trap though that there may no proof. No ability to refute nor reply except for the yes/no answer request .. I notice that this was also the same with Shanmugam inquiry with Facebook lawyer … it seems that this is a common way of lawyers questions anyone. Lesson learn, - never answer too fast, think first - never entertain a yes nor no assumption if possible, if it is not align to your truth, just say no. - if given NO choice, say no, so that the possibility will not be entertained, else they will say that you say it is a possibility. - pen down all these answers that you put in - relax your mind as this will take hours to wear you down.. ( they will take turns so that they will not be wear down ) - never communicate any serious on messages - take note of what you bring to court as anything will be queried as well. - control your angry or frustration if any. Easier said than done.. but better to know then not to know..
Well hopefully this set a precedent and if in future any party's MP do something wrong even if they are from ruling party, there will be a COP hearing and not sweep under carpet.
Exactly, integrity is the backbone of good governance, ofc they will be bombarding them w hard questions, and leading questions w an agenda to find the truth!
The only question ET or anyone wants to ask is, "Why did you lie Miss Khan?". Though we have all been living in lies. This lie from Ms Khan is nothing compared to the lies to the citizens of Singapore for the record.
It's take decade for a public related issue such as "cost of living" to be given a fair debate. And the can spend more than half of $M dollar's paid minister time on a statement made by a MP. Have SPF took the feedback and investigate on how a sexual assault situation handling process is and any room of improvement?
This edwin guy is so all over the place.go aug to sept to aug.make up your mind before asking questions can?keeping jumping everywhere.be chronological in your questions lah... TJC sleeping....the guy already said the same thing 5 times but still ask same qn again
At least Mr. Pritam Singh has managed to assume Ownership and Responsibility to the Voters of the Opposition to bring some hope after a series of Catastrophic events that have led to the loss of Public Trust.
For Edwin Tong to say "deception" is same as not telling the truth is shocking. When we play basketball, we sometimes use deceptions, but that has nothing to do with truth. To be a Senior Counsel, isn't it necessary to pass a test on diction? Probably not, if Edwin Tong's sometimes sloppy use of words in the proceedings is a guide. Pritam is right in pointing out Edwin Tong's poor choice of words.
This CoP is a english test, the use of words is not as sloppy as something as I will not judge you. This isn't a basketball ball where deception include your body movement and fake out, a deception in politic and parliamentary speaking is generally not telling the truth. Aceing your diction doesnt means it is okay to playing around with words when the inquiry and gotten the point of the question across. PS playing acround with diction doesnt make him look smart but just plain arrogant and dishonest trying to jump around question. I expect him as the leader of the WP to have more guts to answer head without prattling on useless details.
Edwin Tong was indeed a very remarkable & impressive lawyer in his handling of all the COP proceedings so far. From his line of questioning, I am able to follow & clearly comprehend what was transpired & it’s significance. If Pritam had been more cooperative, transparent & forthcoming, he would have put himself in a better light. Instead, he read too much in the questioning & came forth as evasive & at certain point, very aggressive which actually gave himself away.
Your member make mistake , leader take responsibility and follow up , all he said take ownership and faces it .. like nothing to do with him. It is correct that tong said you are putting yourself a distance to the matter.
after watching Sylvia Lim's COP appearance....one can confirm that Pritam Singh kenna from Edwin Tong, is he (Pritam) was asking for it.....also what do you expect if 2 lawyers cross sword?.....just chit chat and small talk 😂😂😂
I suggest that everyone watch the session with Ms Khan again in light of the WP leadership's testimonies. Edwin Tong was acting as a defence lawyer for Ms Khan trying very hard leading Ms Khan to implicate the WP leadership with his questioning. The WP leadership had nothing to do with Ms Khan concocting the lie nor encouraged her to continue with the lie. It's time PAP leadership dissociate itself from Edwin Tong in order to preserve its good name. A separate COP should be conducted to investigate the conduct of Edwin Tong now and bar him from this COP immediately. PAP cannot allow the narcissism of one person bring the whole party down.
Nice, so many assumptions and speculation. Can the Committee of Privilege( what you think is PAP) please hire you. They spend so much time to gather evidence to find the truth but mr. Intelligent here know the truth without any questioning and evidence. Your ability to find out the truth thru the screens is really impressive, few in the world can do that 👍
@@mossad1438 No assumptions or speculation. If there are, please explain. Just facts and suggestions. You can surmise that I'm intelligent. You are free to express your opinion. I have no problem with that. Please provide counter arguments instead of just throwing shade.
NTU Dr Tan is wise and has fairly commented. Quote {NTU's Dr Tan said WP "seriously needs to look at its processes on how they conduct themselves internally" and also in public. "There is a need for the WP to regain voter confidence in the party moving forward. Furthermore, there is a need to look at how the party selects their candidates in the future," he said. "There are still many questions left unanswered at this point in time. There is a need for damage control ... this entire fiasco might lead to serious divisions and splits within the political party, which would not bode well for the WP." Dr Tan added that the WP leaders need to clear their name and regain public trust in the party, which has been on the ascent in the past few years.} Unquote
I live in the Aljunied constituency and after going through all the “interrogations” it is obvious to me the 3 WP leaders lied. There are too many inconsistencies in their evidence. By the way, abetting someone to lie is also a crime in itself. If they had owned up and apologized at the beginning, I would vote for them in the next election. Unfortunately, this is not the case. If Loh Pei Ying, Nathan would to run in the next election, I would vote for them. I am particularly impressed by Miss Loh statement. “Country before party” To me integrity is paramount. Why ? Let me quote Warren Buffet : “In looking for someone to hire, we look for three qualities : Integrity, intelligence and energy. And if you don’t have the first, the other two will kill you”
If someone confine to you be something personal, how to tell her to do something rationally meaning to clarify the lie? I think that will be insensitive.
The last 40 minutes was a wow for singh he really empowered ET and said i dun care about my reputation i am not defending myself,that’s confidence and being fearless and he made example of the TraceTogether screw up 😂 which ET too start to slow down,and sound like he is struggling and i think the pressured want is ET,unable to break singh tru out,which he has failed to do,ET just repeating and repeating jumping from different dates,and keep on reminding singh that he knew the truth since Aug many x till singh told him yes u have t established it 😂,
Disgraceful. The Privilege Committee direction has digressed from the main point of why R lied. It morphed into a Star Chamber to persecute the WP and its head, PS. No proper respect shown to PS as Leader of the Opposition. Even in a Court of Law, I seriously doubt that you can cross-examine to the point of repeating a question 7, 8, 9, 10 times, just because you can't get the witness to contradict himself. So unbecoming. Just disgraceful conduct by the Privilege Committee.
It's already 4 mths and the questioning is really unnecessary. Just focus on the lie RK had said in parliament how she will be dealt with. What PS & the other leaders did on that day at PS house was truly humanity well served to a victim of sexual assault at that point of time. Not jump to the situation and create more damage to RK emotional state. But RK is truly inhuman to not disclose her crying and emotional state when she was at PS house. COP is aware RK is damn god liar but trying to divert the questioning to make it look the leaders didn't do a good job in handling the situation... Ridiculous. ET just want to conclude RK was not given direction, guidance etc etc. ET doesn't want others (eg; Nathan) to assume but he himself assumes what PS concluded. ET assumes alot in rgds to PS press conf and etc.... Very funny. ET should ask RK why she lied to her associates not press PS for an answer because PS wouldn't know. Furthermore, if someone can have sympathy on a person who suffers from sexual assault the more the person will want to lie to get attention & sympathy ... isn't it? RK must have made up her mind to continue the lie so she had to make her associates to believe her so she dragged the leaders to say they ask her to continue with the lie... Very obvious.. Pls RK can manipulate all of them in parliament to 'believe' her fabrication story and do u think she need direction, guidance etc?
It costs the brain a lot more resources to tell lies than to tell the truth - anonymous Who suggested they take a break after just one hour forty three mins of hearing.?
This whole exercise is not a public display of wits and popularity which many construed it to be. Do not overlook the fact of the matter, is PS culpable or guilty of abetting a lie? If this fact is overlooked on account of his wittiness and sharp refrains, then we are treading on dangerous ground by overlooking the down side of a person's integrity and that's not how we want or choose a person to lead us). RK was made to be the 'lamb for the slaughter' despite her revelations (feeling remorseful and having to live with the grave mistake for the rest Of her lie)(indeed, a heavy burden to carry for someone this young) of her 2 lies after being told to continue her narrative (hoping that her lie stays secret but it was found out) and to carry her lie "to the grave" if it wasn't found out. This was the impression given to her by the leadership, who by all account knew ( they are eventually not responsible for her actions) that RK had to personally take stock (of her onus of responsibility) of what she did ( PS reiterated by saying that every MP in their party is a leader in their own right and is therefore responsible for their actions despite dispensing his passive counsel, "I will not judge you if you keep the narrative) and yet did nothing to encouraged her to immediately own up (rather than been tardy and procrastinating in reporting her lie) to Parliament rather than by their passive encouragement to her to keep the lie and then denied all that during the various interviews which effectively misconstrued RK as a compulsive liar. It is a fact that RK's testimonies about the conversations she had with the leadership will be thrown to the wind with their denials, bearing in mind that her words at this junction are less believable (with her repeated lies) than those of the leader or leadership. This is supposed, what the leadership is banking on to show that what they said are more bankable than RK's. This COP, in a nutshell, is to find out who's words are more believable and not about sharp retorts, intelligence, eloquence, popularity, and wittiness. It is all about assuming responsibility, integrity and truthfulness for their action.
Who started this exercise? Indranee from the PAP. Not the WP. What was the "crime"? Ms Khan told a false anecdote about a couple of police officers mishandling ONE sexual assault case. Did it affect the public's trust in the police force? No. Because everyone knows the police is not infallible and they do mishandle cases. How does Pritam and the WP benefit from her telling and continuing with the lie? Nothing, knowing the truth will eventually be found out Was Pritam asked by the PAP in parliament if Ms Khan lied? No. There was no cover up. And they could have asked that anytime but decided to drag out the case to paint the WP in a bad light. The WP leadership has testified under oath in this COP. This is the discovery phase. The judgement will come later. So why are you judging prematurely? It does not benefit the WP to drag this case. They, more than the PAP would want the issue to be settled as soon as possible. All the PAP had to do was ask Pritam if she lied in parliament much earlier and he would have no choice but to tell the truth and terminate the service of Ms Khan. It only shows the PAP's intention is not to reveal the truth but put the WP in a bad light as long as they could. Don't believe everything Edwin Tong says. It makes you stupid.
@@jpphua602 so if I do not concur with your narrative and if I "listen" ( isn't this something we are supposed to do during the COP hearings) to ET, I am S T U P I D? Isn't this an insulting and sweeping statement. You are certainly not a person advocating free speech and rather prefers someone else opinion is skewed towards yours,, which would mean, he is I N TE LL I G E N T!.
@@philipchai9107 You are not making any argument to the points I've made. You are making judgement before the COP have made theirs. You are entitled to your opinion as I'm entitled to mine. Let's not quibble about that. I have countered your arguments. You have made no attempt to counter mine. Until you do, let's not talk about your intelligence.
Watching tens of hours of this COP, you come away with the feeling that Raeesah Khan is thrown under the bus by the very party RK served, that is WP. Yet, it is the ruling Party that seem to be fighting for RK some justice and fairness she deserves. How ironic sometime Life is.
What is the purpose of showing redacted WhatsApp messages to all who are being questioned ? What’s the point of blanking out parts of those messages and only showing the parts which they want them to see ? Quite strange !! It might end up confusing them when they see only redacted messages.
*WHEN YOU ALREADY KNOW THOSE LIES FOR 3 MONTHS AND DID NOTHING TO EXPOSE IT INSTEAD AS A LEADER YOU ASKED THE LIAR TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR HER OWN LIES BUT YOU DID NOTHING?? ASK YOURSELF WHY ARE YOU PAID MORE TO BE A LEADER AND WHERE IS YOUR SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY AS A LEADER AND DO YOU KNOW THAT LEADERS MUST LEAD BY EXAMPLE SO ASK YOURSELF NOW IF YOUR OWN CHILD IS A LIAR WHAT WOULD YOU DO?*
@Uma Rai Go and read news today SPF has countered his claim about undermining the impact of investigation work so tell me how will you feel if your spouse lied to you for months about an affair and came out with a lame excuse just because you found the truth ?
@@ly8370 If your partner or spouse or children lied to you for several months that damaging your reputation would you not shoot your mouth or just act dumbb like there is no self dignity left to protect ? So sink in deep on that and dont take lies for granted cos it can destroy anyones life.
Pritam may not be a liar. He is just very clueless. As a leader, he didn’t know what to do with a lie or clarify. He doesn’t know what his MPs real motives are. Now he is saying his own former MP is actually a mad nutcase and other WP members were lying. How to check the PAP if he cannot check his party? Ownself. Check. Ownself. And how can a Leader of the Opposition now say there was no harm done on the police because of her lies. Omg. Siaoliao.
@theloyalistspeaks So are you implying that the leader of PAP will know how do react and take responsibility in the event of wrongdoings from his party members ? And also , why is ET linking the SPF with PS . ET should ask RK. Wish that more people can the political agenda behind ET .
@@kwangang960 it’s not nothing to do with PAP or WP. It’s got to do with the law. If it’s found out that no one did anything- it is already an offence. Whether it is negligence or compassion.
Why Mr Edwin Tong is twisting and turning though WP Senior Leaders mentioned that they have given Mr Raeesah Khan a chance to correct herself as she informed she was the Sexual Assault Victim. A simple English we understand but why Mr Edwin Tong was trying not to understand?
This proceedings crystalise that workers party is controlled opposition. The malay member literally for no reason put his pen and fingers suddenly at his temple pointing to one eye of his for sometime.its symbolise the one eye entity.its a code they use to signal this is controlled opposition putting up this show and as usual the people here are naive so we buy this again.
Let's stop all these nonsense. Good luck to Singapore with our 4G ministers including this guy Edwin Tong. No wonder even 2 lions can escape from their cages at Changi Cargo Complex. Lion City...
Luckily WP is not our government , with such kind of leadership who doesn’t seem to have the slightest qualms to disagree with illogical outcomes , and who doesn’t put important paliament related meetings and discussions into meeting minutes or proper records! When things happen, the way this WP leadership handles matters is so ambiguous without a timeline and without a clear and direct objective & direction! Gosh, our small nation won’t be able to afford the consequences! Luckily WP leadership is not our government! Luckily Singapore is still blessed with good karma (so far).
luckily this is only a "lie" COP .. Quote .. "ex-PAP’s MP, Zainudin Nordin, who was also a mayor and the former president of FAS, who was arrested for alleged misuse of public funds in 2017 and put on police bail but yet all the charges were dropped in September 2021. Our SPF could not have arrested him for frivolous allegations, can they? .. " luckily no COP?
Some of the greatest achievements by WP include the $32M AHTC fund misuse case, the racism case and the lying in parliament case. WP has not made any significant contributions to the people or country, but has been a disgrace and burden.
Fully agree 👍 . Well said. Done nothing except denying beat round the bush. Am resident of aljunied after many years of observation and under them . Truly disheartening of this just only mere words no action
It's a warped world-- on the world stage, a bad opposition is better than no opposition for Singapore. If there's no opposition, the West says there's no democracy -- never mind if it's the people's choice, never mind if the people live decently.
PS answers are jackpot and ET is no match for him... I don't think PS is concerned about his reputation like what he mentioned. He is people's person and their voice
PS is a good politician, but as a leader, he need to learn how to manage ppl and his team. If he would have manage them properly, all these could have settle by now. If those word spoken by his member is truth, it seem he have yet to gain respect from his team.
i dont understand. P says R is an MP that can take ownership and responsibility. Why does P insists R to tell her parents? R is a parent to young children as well. This line of statement before action is not even relevant.
Aiyah y so much of talking.. firstly advise Why Mp Salary is very High?? Why Hdb 99 lease can’t be extended?? Why the price of Hdb is very high compare to other countries?? Why so many foreigners in Singapore taking up our space?? You can walk around and see now most blocks void deck foreigners grouping up and drinking Alcohol…does it look like a safe and pleasant environments for our children?? Foreigners working in Singapore own maybe 2 houses and few vehicles in their country.. What does Singaporean have ?? After 35-45years yours Hdb price seems to decline.. Why the Govt can’t provide owners with a compensation scheme?? Why the DP is questionable by the opposition.. why it’s not neutral party on this clarification… Looking very obvious to corner the WP…
My observations after watching this video: PS’s immediate retort, direct steadfast eye contact, tone and body language showed he was being truthful, has a sharp mind, and a nerve of steel. We can see that his testimony was consistent till the end, he didn’t crumble under tremendous pressure. He cud hv remained as a lawyer and enjoy a brilliant prestigious career, or joined PAP, earn much more, enjoy a strong backing, but no, instead he had chosen the tough n treacherous path to lead the opposition, some hv been sued or charged or exiled. He was always well prepared when raising issues during Parliamentary debates. When he speaks, people listen, just like with President Tharman. Both of them deliver. No doubt, PS is a very outstanding and courageous leader, and has a spine. The people will judge and remember.
Ever since COP starts I hv stopped watching Netflix.
Funny, maybe turn this into Crown court episode, retitled " SG 1: Speak to Survive (7 episodes Series 1)...?
That's so funny .I like your humour
I kinda like Pritam guts. He is suitable to be the leader of opposition to the ruling party. He doesn't bend easy and we need oppositions like that for check and balance.
Raeesah is wrong obviously for lying, so it's right that she resigned. But I kinda feel for the rest of the team mates here. I mean PAP was never 100% honest all the time and have made mistakes too. So...
Standard la WP wat if pap
WP is the same parry that plays the victim card. This time may not work
An election promise..." unfulfilled tantamount to be construed as a lie,,🤔,,?"
Lee kuan yew said " whoever governs this country must have the iron in him. " Mr Pritam is showing all shades of iron. He has more steel and iron than ... well we know
Yes.
It is coming across like a much higher standard is being asked of the WP than the PAP.
Just bad optics.
PS's standing has risen in my eyes. I used to think that he was just lucky to replace Low TK as head of WP.
After watching all this, education, is very important else others will put words in your mouth and there won't be a chance of turning back. Lol
Why does it sound like there is a bigger sin or crime for not taking action against a lie than the lie itself?
Because it is both a crime in the law.
We need to know the Truth, Nothing but the Truth... otherwise we will End up like Jesus Christ.
@@theloyalistspeaks 1st is a sin, 2nd is Jesus
@@theloyalistspeaks WRONG haha dont act smart you are wrong
@@wfhabuser9466
I dont think he is wrong. Its a crime to cover up
"Please don't interrupt me" but you keep interrupting Mr Pritam Singh....
Mr Tong appears so bias and against WP. He is not open minded and seems so bent to nail Pritam Singh with his line of questioning. Raeesah Khan is a liar and will continue lying. I am a strong PAP supporter, by the way but I watch this proceeding with an objective mind.
From Raeesah, to Ms Khan, then to this “Lady”, then off topic to Trace together ?! Wow … clearly crumbling
This is a normal procedures to find out the truth and don't pretend to be a PAP supporter
I agree with what Jenny Lim says about Edwin Tong. Edwin, also talks in loops, sometimes tripping himself. He doesn't come across as having the sharp mind we expect of a Senior Counsel.
@@wilfredtankhoonpheow2605 Most of us are but not sure if still will be in future. Maybe you too.
@@wilfredtankhoonpheow2605 He should be neutral in investigating the case. Not interrogating him as if he is a criminal.
Why keep asking Mr Singh what other people said or asked? Sounds like manipulative questioning meant to trap a less seasoned witness into saying something under duress.
Cos hes the Leader and should lead by example.
If he knows the truth, but nth but the truth, whatever questions, leading, manipulative or difficult should be answered correctly in a calm, confident fashion
Did he answer the questions confidently, without calling out the questioners?
They're questions, not statements. Answer them. If it's false, say no lah, why flip the table of ethics?
My sentiments, exactly...🤭
wow now I look back at this hearing and i look at the hearing of tiktok...i find them super similar
Obviously, Pritam Singh at this meeting has been more consistent than Mr.Tong who was bombarding him with the questions.
More like Pritam wanted to finish his script so the public can hear his story and believe him and puah all the blame to RK.
Yes consistently interrupting questions, interjecting with useless grunts and remarks, skirting issues, refusing to answer directly, playing with words. We can see through it. He too was not being truthful.
That's is your point of view as an opposition supporter🤣
Obviously, you have to bombard with questions. Integrity is the backbone of good governance, as much as they are the opposition, they are still part of the government that decides every direction, every step the society takes. OFC scrutiny will be present.
The questions should also be leading, if it's not leading, then where the hell is the session going? The answer is either, yes they are lying, or no they are not. If they are not leading anywhere then, there's no answers.
If questioned like this, better wear body camera 24/7
Aiyo.. what a great display of words. Thats politics
After hearing the complete statement from both parties, i still think we need an opposition party like Mr. PS but definitely not the lier Miss Khan
When you are accosted with a sneaky lawyer of higher authority trying to change your testimony in 10 different ways you fight till the death to maintain your original testimony.
This is the kind of leader Singapore deserves. A leader that will not be bullied.
If one is truthful, he would be immune to questions in all angles.
Usually an untruthful person gets caught in this type of questioning
@@brmin7312 No, you don't understand how law works...
In their world, ones truth is never the absolute truth, any facet of truth can be the brought upon and presented as main fact of the case. It depends how you put them in words actually.
Even if you are the plaintiff victim of the case, lawyers can make it seems like you are a defendant in seconds. Then if you said something off somehow, the judge will give in to their prerogative.
See?
Your version of truth is NOT THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH... You just have to be the smartest guy in the room. That's why lawyer's fee are pricey.
It's not like, you have one version of truth, then you are invincible. That's not how it works. This kind of mindset is simplistic and too naïve; exactly how a kid's mind would work. We are not kids right...?
@@yecly
Don't be too smart. We look at how he was not answering the questions.
How evasive he was. And the number of times using " irrelevant " as not wanting to answer.
You are right. We are not small kids
@@brmin7312 PS was evasive, if that how you want to see it. Or he can be collecting receipts to fill in whatever holes he has been to before.
ET is too not that particular hong gan or honest to stick it to the main issue. He had his own narrative and he DIRECTING PS to fit in his narrative.
The two meet, hence the 9 hours of tiresome session.
Look, everybody have their own agenda. We don't have to be naïve about it. Like throwing a simplistic claim of how "if one is truthful, he would be immune to probing questions from all angles".
It's rather, if you are gullible and don't know how things work, then you are just DOOMED, crash and burn...
Don't be too naïve yeah... Trust me, both of the party already planned everything, roles, what to speak and ways to win the day. It's just up to who's smarter than whom...
Pritam answered clearly ET's question of "why do u think Raeesah lied" but ET threw a childish hissy fit over his response of "dissociation disorder" even saying "it's inappropriate to bring this up". So what does ET want!? PS answer u not happy, he don't answer u also not happy. He needs to go. Not fit to be a minister at all.
that's a bit rude
For 3 months the PAP did not ask Pritam in parliament if Ms Khan lied. That would have forced Pritam to tell the truth and Ms Khan would have resigned much earlier.
They didn't do that only because they wanted to drag this out as long as possible to smear the WP.
This could have ended much sooner had the PAP wanted to. They did not.
Wow, your ability to twist and turn the blame on a party not involve is incredible. To prove your immensely Low IQ, WP knew she lied on 10 August while the parliament (in your words PAP) only knew she lied on 1 Nov. not sure who is the one dragging this out as long as possible.
@@mossad1438
Did the PAP asked the WP leadership in parliament if she lied between 10 August and 1 November? They did not.
What's the best time to provide evidence? In a COP where it's done under oath. Who decides on the commencement of the COP? PAP.
Did anyone in the WP leadership refuse to testify under oath. No. They did so without delay.
Was there a cover-up? No. They were not asked in parliament.
You can twist and turn however you want. But these are the facts you cannot refute.
@@jpphua602 why would you ask if someone lie in parliament unless you assume they did which obviously no one even in their life thought of ?? When did it ever happen ?? This is precisely how serious this incident is because no one in the world will expect a mp who took a oath in parliament to lie. The fact that you think pap should ask WP if RK lied is alr wrong. let me ask you, would you have thought RK lied before she confessed in the parliament ?
@@jpphua602 your comments are obviously biased and how is not refusing to testify under an oath prove anything ? The amount of assumptions you made are crazy
@@mossad1438
Stop conflating everything.
She lied. The WP leadership knew about it. Nobody asked. There was no cover up. The COP was convened by the PAP. The WP leadership testified under oath without delay.
That's all to it. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.
What evidence does the WP has to prosecute her when she confessed to them. The only evidence that Raseah khan is lying is her own words. If WP try to turn her to the police, she can say: no I did not say I lied, then what? Remember this one is a liar. She can confessed that she lied, but she can also lied about not confessing that she lied. It is only rationale to tell her, if u really lied, go and confess to the police. Now she is trying to use her lies to take the party down.
What should happen next is obvious. Subject Ms Khan to a psychological examination.
Recall her back to substantiate her "take the matter to the grave" statement as that's disputed by all 3 of the WP leadership.
Anything less will cast the PAP in a bad light.
Overall this is a good outcome. WP gets rid of a bad apple. WP wins votes for the next election.
Hello. Mr chairman and Edwin Tong. If you want to assume, the two of you can go to any nearby kopitiam to assume all you want. Why subject all Singaporeans to 9 straight hours of torture.
This is abuse of parliamentary privilege.
Indranee, please do your job.
These sort of bullying is the reason why the PAP is losing their trusts and popularity. At least must give some respect to the legal voters who cast their legalise vote to put Pritam Singh into the parliament.
Hey Guys,
Looking at these series of episodes in TH-cam I also feel like prepared to give my evidence to the COP. My evidence to the COP is why until today nobody in the COP is interested to ask Raeesha why and what motivated her to lie at the very beginning about the police in Parliament which did not happen. Nobody in COP panel or anyone criticising WP leaders is asking thus basic question and doesn't seem relevant and never cross their mind to ask this simple question until today.
This is my evidence.
Exactly! They have completely digressed from finding out why the lying one is lying. It's like your child commits a crime but the guilty one is the parent???
She did not lie about the police in parliament. She heard it from a woman support group about the police. The fact that she lied is she accompanied the woman to the police station. And the reason is she was sexually assaulted before. Thus it was already clear to the Cop.
I remembered Grace Fu asked her about her motives. Go & watch her full evidence
BC the lying one said her party helped her lie
@@esthertsr why would you say that she was not lying when she mentioned that she was the one who accompanied the victim to Bedok police station? She wasn’t there… Does this not consider as a lie to you? A lie means a lie… In parliament you need evidence. Not those evidence that you heard or seen some where..
Strange is this high court? It should be in parliament sitting. Like in uk. This only makes WP shiny ✨
Yes.
Agreed.
It is a disgrace that it is being conducted like a criminal trial with the WP and their leadership and esp. PS as the accused.
And iit appears from Mr Edwin Tong the accused was guilty unless they can prove themselves innocent completely turning the presumption of innocence upside down.
Anyway, why is the attention not on RK.
Looks like the Committee is deliberately targeting the WP and their leaders esp PS.
On hindsight, I think they regretted putting ET on the bench
Is it just me that I find most of the topics are almost the same, just that it is restructured with different context. Trying to use different approach to forcefully point Pritam to the same direction .
Woh PS is very talented.. sharp n intelligent.. If there’s no of this much of conversation I would have not know of his competency ..he can be our leader …..
I m going to vote for workers party
I was PAP supporter now I want to vote Pritam as PM, damn he is good. I don't need a cotton come from sheep as PM.
@@nsevv integrity is the backbone of good governance, don't forget! Malaysia, Philippines and many other countries for the sake of change, was induced to follow the path of 'brand new', 'fresh air', 'people's champions' and where did they end up? I don't want to dictate, who u should support, but it's a golden rule to put the policies and competency of the party as a whole first, over a leader's charms. Look at Trump, is America doing well? NO. Look at Biden, is America doing well? EVEN WORSE. Look at Duterte, is Philippines doing well? NO.
@@benjietan1358
Indian woman became Malay president. Integrity?
@@jpphua602 does the presidency affect largely the decision and policy making of this country? Her race is also transparent, yes she was part of the race, looking for a Malay as a president, but her race was never hidden. PLUS, her maternal side was a Malay, her father, an Indian, died early, she was then raised by her mother.
@@benjietan1358
Did you receive your check for the Covid stimulus package. Who approved that? The president. And she does not affect policy making? She can also veto bills by parliament and block key positions in government. Go do some research on the powers of a sitting president.
Did you vote in the last presidential "election". I did not.
Integrity?
Hope the protocols for the COP hearing be openly published in the news. This is to enable the public to judge whether the COP members had abused their rights. If yes, what will be the course of action against those COP members who do not adhere to the protocols.
Ok
ET literally explain the context and give evidences provided on every questions he asked. What else you want ? If it is the first time you guys see such questioning, it is how it is. please note that ET is just being professional as a “lawyer” and do not pretend to be the Mr Nice guy and beat around the bush. Let the truth prevail and do not take sides.
@@mossad1438 ur right. ET is just doing his job and is professional. He is not pretending to be nice and he is sincere unlike some who are superficial
Son you are nearby. Anything I phone you you handle the finance department and administration work I am the ceo of the company. The assets all not spilt together put better I decide when to give to all. All sealed by 45 banks worldwide the condos and bungalows I bought. Names all put already included the Chinese girl johnathan ganesh wife future with tea party upon release. Claudia Eng and 2 daughtersm move in 0329. Compass heights condo. 11 sengkang Square lobby D singapore 545076 tel open your own phone line. Move in with daughters two first get johnathan ganesh bring him home. Aunty Loveleen kaur and aunty marjit kaur also can help take care all. Pritam only my lunch time meet me together we go wining and dining at restaurant in mall. Than I go back to work. On time. Exactly on time lunch hour is 12pm upto 1pm afternoon every day. So Paul pritam has to come by 11.50 am to work place and stand outside no talking.
Yes jaswen. Today afternoon at 5pm maada and jaswen will come and get me to my home thank you. Ok.
Obviously, PS is the target of the whole excercise.
He is the Leader after all.
His the leader mah, and the allegation from Ms Khan also involves him, what do u expect? Integrity is the backbone of good leadership, without it, what is a leader.
@@benjietan1358 As PS has argued, Khan actions need psychiatric evaluation. ET reaction to this request is unfathomable.
@@benjietan1358 In Singapore context, "Opposition Leader needs to be taken down".
@@9m2sh so u think is justifiable to lie when one is faced with mental illness, with no repercussions?
It's outrageous for Pritam Singh to say that Raeesah's lie did not damage the police's reputation. It was only after Raeesah's admission of the lie, that the police's reputation was redeemed. Pritam Singh's standing in the eyes of the public will have fallen because of this denial; Singapore expects better judgement from the leader of the opposition.
Chin Beng Liew, if you lied to your colleagues, are you saying that it impacts the police. Is the police coming to your house to ask you why you lie to your colleagues.
@@limrobert7837 Whatever is said in parliament is accessible to the public. The lie was about police insensitivity to the public. So it's quite different from a lie you tell your colleagues.
Chin B L, a lie is a lie and there is no other dictionary to describe "A Lie "
@@limrobert7837 what u mean by a lie is a lie lol. There are different lies with different levels of consequences. For eg, lying to a kid vs lying in parliament about the police not doing their duty to handle a sexual assault case
The police and ministers do not genuinely concern about their repuration when the public do not know. They have no integrity to come clean when the police lied in the Court. COP is merely a wayang.
I am wondering if this is how a legal suit or inquiry is done ? Making many “presume guilty” assumptions without proof and making direction to the person if there is such a possibility and if you say yes, you are kinda trap though that there may no proof. No ability to refute nor reply except for the yes/no answer request .. I notice that this was also the same with Shanmugam inquiry with Facebook lawyer … it seems that this is a common way of lawyers questions anyone.
Lesson learn,
- never answer too fast, think first
- never entertain a yes nor no assumption if possible, if it is not align to your truth, just say no.
- if given NO choice, say no, so that the possibility will not be entertained, else they will say that you say it is a possibility.
- pen down all these answers that you put in
- relax your mind as this will take hours to wear you down.. ( they will take turns so that they will not be wear down )
- never communicate any serious on messages
- take note of what you bring to court as anything will be queried as well.
- control your angry or frustration if any.
Easier said than done.. but better to know then not to know..
Is it possible to find politicians that don’t lie?
Different people by themselves already have different definitions and approaches to the truth. Do we really know what are bald faced lies
As I said once before, 'THE FUNDAMENTAL DUTIES OF A POLITICIAN IS TO LIE'
Well hopefully this set a precedent and if in future any party's MP do something wrong even if they are from ruling party, there will be a COP hearing and not sweep under carpet.
What Mr Edwin Tong as behaving was like he would turn COP to wrestling ring.
When PAP question, its called bullying.
When WP question, its called transparency.
Eh. Don't double standard leh. We need to know the truth.
By definition Bully has to be bigger and stronger than victim.
Exactly, integrity is the backbone of good governance, ofc they will be bombarding them w hard questions, and leading questions w an agenda to find the truth!
Ok now a COP on the Contact Tracing fiasco please.
Hahaha, Edwin Tong, the king of putting words in other people's mouths.
This Mr. Tong being an MP is asking lot of stupid questions to Mr. Singh.
So says Mr Thong himself! 🤣
Bottom line.... WP leaders said nothing for 3 months after knowing one of them lied... Simple... Lol
It is like Harbouring a Criminal for 3 months.
Agree its actually complicit and its wrong.
Why Mr Edwin Tong is very aggressive towards Mr Singh?
Why wait 3 months to announce and 3 of the senior WP members already informed on 8 August. Lies cover up lies..
The only question ET or anyone wants to ask is, "Why did you lie Miss Khan?". Though we have all been living in lies. This lie from Ms Khan is nothing compared to the lies to the citizens of Singapore for the record.
"Substantiate?" ( To quote Pritam Singh)
Why did Mr Edwin Tong raise his voice in COP?
It's take decade for a public related issue such as "cost of living" to be given a fair debate.
And the can spend more than half of $M dollar's paid minister time on a statement made by a MP.
Have SPF took the feedback and investigate on how a sexual assault situation handling process is and any room of improvement?
Isn't it Obvious.
COP attempts to discredit the
WP is just pathetic.
Weldone WP! 💯 . THE TRULY FUTURE ❤
This edwin guy is so all over the place.go aug to sept to aug.make up your mind before asking questions can?keeping jumping everywhere.be chronological in your questions lah...
TJC sleeping....the guy already said the same thing 5 times but still ask same qn again
At least Mr. Pritam Singh has managed to assume Ownership and Responsibility to the Voters of the Opposition to bring some hope after a series of Catastrophic events that have led to the loss of Public Trust.
For Edwin Tong to say "deception" is same as not telling the truth is shocking. When we play basketball, we sometimes use deceptions, but that has nothing to do with truth. To be a Senior Counsel, isn't it necessary to pass a test on diction? Probably not, if Edwin Tong's sometimes sloppy use of words in the proceedings is a guide. Pritam is right in pointing out Edwin Tong's poor choice of words.
This CoP is a english test, the use of words is not as sloppy as something as I will not judge you. This isn't a basketball ball where deception include your body movement and fake out, a deception in politic and parliamentary speaking is generally not telling the truth. Aceing your diction doesnt means it is okay to playing around with words when the inquiry and gotten the point of the question across. PS playing acround with diction doesnt make him look smart but just plain arrogant and dishonest trying to jump around question. I expect him as the leader of the WP to have more guts to answer head without prattling on useless details.
Wahahahahahaha. Basketball. Hahahahahaha
Edwin Tong was indeed a very remarkable & impressive lawyer in his handling of all the COP proceedings so far. From his line of questioning, I am able to follow & clearly comprehend what was transpired & it’s significance. If Pritam had been more cooperative, transparent & forthcoming, he would have put himself in a better light. Instead, he read too much in the questioning & came forth as evasive & at certain point, very aggressive which actually gave himself away.
Your member make mistake , leader take responsibility and follow up , all he said take ownership and faces it .. like nothing to do with him. It is correct that tong said you are putting yourself a distance to the matter.
My FB and YT main pages are being flooded by news and videos of this case. Some kind of manipulation is going on.
Why are you asking Pritam why Raeesah would lie? Ask Raeesah pls.
after watching Sylvia Lim's COP appearance....one can confirm that Pritam Singh kenna from Edwin Tong, is he (Pritam) was asking for it.....also what do you expect if 2 lawyers cross sword?.....just chit chat and small talk 😂😂😂
can do a lie-detecting test? or can only judge based on common sense?
I suggest that everyone watch the session with Ms Khan again in light of the WP leadership's testimonies.
Edwin Tong was acting as a defence lawyer for Ms Khan trying very hard leading Ms Khan to implicate the WP leadership with his questioning. The WP leadership had nothing to do with Ms Khan concocting the lie nor encouraged her to continue with the lie.
It's time PAP leadership dissociate itself from Edwin Tong in order to preserve its good name.
A separate COP should be conducted to investigate the conduct of Edwin Tong now and bar him from this COP immediately.
PAP cannot allow the narcissism of one person bring the whole party down.
Nice, so many assumptions and speculation. Can the Committee of Privilege( what you think is PAP) please hire you. They spend so much time to gather evidence to find the truth but mr. Intelligent here know the truth without any questioning and evidence. Your ability to find out the truth thru the screens is really impressive, few in the world can do that 👍
@@mossad1438
No assumptions or speculation. If there are, please explain. Just facts and suggestions.
You can surmise that I'm intelligent. You are free to express your opinion. I have no problem with that.
Please provide counter arguments instead of just throwing shade.
NTU Dr Tan is wise and has fairly commented. Quote {NTU's Dr Tan said WP "seriously needs to look at its processes on how they conduct themselves internally" and also in public.
"There is a need for the WP to regain voter confidence in the party moving forward. Furthermore, there is a need to look at how the party selects their candidates in the future," he said.
"There are still many questions left unanswered at this point in time. There is a need for damage control ... this entire fiasco might lead to serious divisions and splits within the political party, which would not bode well for the WP."
Dr Tan added that the WP leaders need to clear their name and regain public trust in the party, which has been on the ascent in the past few years.} Unquote
this is why dont hire kids to be politician, associate, volunteer. no sense of maturity
Interesting to see two "LEOs" argued. One "thumb-pointing", one "pen spinning".
I live in the Aljunied constituency and after going through all the “interrogations” it is obvious to me the 3 WP leaders lied. There are too many inconsistencies in their evidence.
By the way, abetting someone to lie is also a crime in itself.
If they had owned up and apologized at the beginning, I would vote for them in the next election. Unfortunately, this is not the case.
If Loh Pei Ying, Nathan would to run in the next election, I would vote for them. I am particularly impressed by Miss Loh statement. “Country before party”
To me integrity is paramount. Why ? Let me quote Warren Buffet :
“In looking for someone to hire, we look for three qualities : Integrity, intelligence and energy. And if you don’t have the first, the other two will kill you”
Obviously Mr Edwin Tong is creating chaos in WP camp.
If someone confine to you be something personal, how to tell her to do something rationally meaning to clarify the lie? I think that will be insensitive.
At the very beginning RK looked that she had unsound mind. Why nobody noticed it?
WP loves crazies, like Jamus is crazy about his cockles too
Are you related to her? Both of you have the khan name
The last 40 minutes was a wow for singh he really empowered ET and said i dun care about my reputation i am not defending myself,that’s confidence and being fearless and he made example of the TraceTogether screw up 😂 which ET too start to slow down,and sound like he is struggling and i think the pressured want is ET,unable to break singh tru out,which he has failed to do,ET just repeating and repeating jumping from different dates,and keep on reminding singh that he knew the truth since Aug many x till singh told him yes u have t established it 😂,
PS is too defensive and arrogant despite everyone knows he kept those lies for 3 months.
@@bobafett5757 As if you know the truth inside out to conclude PS is defensive and arrogant? Wow!
@@ly8370 Wow !!! YOU MUST BE SLEEPING DURING THAT 9HRS HEARING IS IT AND YOU DIDNT WATCH NATHAN AND MS LOH HEARINGS ??? U ARE SO WOW !!!
@@ly8370
Don't blame Boba Fett for showing how stupid he is. He has freedom of speech like everyone else.
Mr Edwin Tong is not Supreme Power of WP. Why he is dictating what WP should have done?
App:Ms Khan also cover 4:Prof.Amos(she proofed that)she could perform her duties,inspite of all this mess(she created continuously
Disgraceful.
The Privilege Committee direction has digressed from the main point of why R lied.
It morphed into a Star Chamber to persecute the WP and its head, PS.
No proper respect shown to PS as Leader of the Opposition.
Even in a Court of Law, I seriously doubt that you can cross-examine to the point of repeating a question 7, 8, 9, 10 times, just because you can't get the witness to contradict himself.
So unbecoming.
Just disgraceful conduct by the Privilege Committee.
I believe RK was selected as a candidate to represent the Malay Muslim issues. But still too immatured to be a politician.
I also disagree with the behaviour of Mr Edwin Tong.
What was Chen Show Mao's motive when he launched a failed party leadership challenge against Low in 2016?
If RK wanted to touch Muslim Women's issue why she did not seek the advice from MUIS?
Just a Bully minister.....to opposition ..not good about this minister
Bully? Yah lah yah lah. Anything asked by PAP is bullying and anything asked by oppy is transparency. See y'all oppy seriously double standard?
@@Jack-hy2ki useless Minister..talk rubbish ... Nothing good about h and PAP
@@wongthomas709 don't push the blame to others when u r the useless one lah.
@@Jack-hy2ki do not blame worker party leader..blame useless ministers and you useless PAPIB
@@wongthomas709 who is blaming workers party? My replies to u not once I blamed the workers party.
I said not to blame others for you being useless.
It's already 4 mths and the questioning is really unnecessary. Just focus on the lie RK had said in parliament how she will be dealt with. What PS & the other leaders did on that day at PS house was truly humanity well served to a victim of sexual assault at that point of time. Not jump to the situation and create more damage to RK emotional state. But RK is truly inhuman to not disclose her crying and emotional state when she was at PS house. COP is aware RK is damn god liar but trying to divert the questioning to make it look the leaders didn't do a good job in handling the situation... Ridiculous. ET just want to conclude RK was not given direction, guidance etc etc. ET doesn't want others (eg; Nathan) to assume but he himself assumes what PS concluded. ET assumes alot in rgds to PS press conf and etc.... Very funny. ET should ask RK why she lied to her associates not press PS for an answer because PS wouldn't know. Furthermore, if someone can have sympathy on a person who suffers from sexual assault the more the person will want to lie to get attention & sympathy
... isn't it? RK must have made up her mind to continue the lie so she had to make her associates to believe her so she dragged the leaders to say they ask her to continue with the lie... Very obvious..
Pls RK can manipulate all of them in parliament to 'believe' her fabrication story and do u think she need direction, guidance etc?
How would we know that she was sexually assaulted? It could be a lie too.
It costs the brain a lot more resources to tell lies than to tell the truth - anonymous
Who suggested they take a break after just one hour forty three mins of hearing.?
Someone with an agenda but have second thought as this might bite them back on the backside.
This whole exercise is not a public display of wits and popularity which many construed it to be. Do not overlook the fact of the matter, is PS culpable or guilty of abetting a lie? If this fact is overlooked on account of his wittiness and sharp refrains, then we are treading on dangerous ground by overlooking the down side of a person's integrity and that's not how we want or choose a person to lead us). RK was made to be the 'lamb for the slaughter' despite her revelations (feeling remorseful and having to live with the grave mistake for the rest Of her lie)(indeed, a heavy burden to carry for someone this young) of her 2 lies after being told to continue her narrative (hoping that her lie stays secret but it was found out) and to carry her lie "to the grave" if it wasn't found out. This was the impression given to her by the leadership, who by all account knew ( they are eventually not responsible for her actions) that RK had to personally take stock (of her onus of responsibility) of what she did ( PS reiterated by saying that every MP in their party is a leader in their own right and is therefore responsible for their actions despite dispensing his passive counsel, "I will not judge you if you keep the narrative) and yet did nothing to encouraged her to immediately own up (rather than been tardy and procrastinating in reporting her lie) to Parliament rather than by their passive encouragement to her to keep the lie and then denied all that during the various interviews which effectively misconstrued RK as a compulsive liar. It is a fact that RK's testimonies about the conversations she had with the leadership will be thrown to the wind with their denials, bearing in mind that her words at this junction are less believable (with her repeated lies) than those of the leader or leadership. This is supposed, what the leadership is banking on to show that what they said are more bankable than RK's. This COP, in a nutshell, is to find out who's words are more believable and not about sharp retorts, intelligence, eloquence, popularity, and wittiness. It is all about assuming responsibility, integrity and truthfulness for their action.
Who started this exercise? Indranee from the PAP. Not the WP.
What was the "crime"?
Ms Khan told a false anecdote about a couple of police officers mishandling ONE sexual assault case. Did it affect the public's trust in the police force? No. Because everyone knows the police is not infallible and they do mishandle cases.
How does Pritam and the WP benefit from her telling and continuing with the lie? Nothing, knowing the truth will eventually be found out
Was Pritam asked by the PAP in parliament if Ms Khan lied? No. There was no cover up. And they could have asked that anytime but decided to drag out the case to paint the WP in a bad light.
The WP leadership has testified under oath in this COP. This is the discovery phase. The judgement will come later. So why are you judging prematurely?
It does not benefit the WP to drag this case. They, more than the PAP would want the issue to be settled as soon as possible.
All the PAP had to do was ask Pritam if she lied in parliament much earlier and he would have no choice but to tell the truth and terminate the service of Ms Khan. It only shows the PAP's intention is not to reveal the truth but put the WP in a bad light as long as they could.
Don't believe everything Edwin Tong says. It makes you stupid.
@@jpphua602 so if I do not concur with your narrative and if I "listen" ( isn't this something we are supposed to do during the COP hearings) to ET, I am S T U P I D? Isn't this an insulting and sweeping statement. You are certainly not a person advocating free speech and rather prefers someone else opinion is skewed towards yours,, which would mean, he is I N TE LL I G E N T!.
@@philipchai9107
You are not making any argument to the points I've made.
You are making judgement before the COP have made theirs.
You are entitled to your opinion as I'm entitled to mine. Let's not quibble about that.
I have countered your arguments. You have made no attempt to counter mine.
Until you do, let's not talk about your intelligence.
@@philipchai9107
And why would you feel insulted if what I say about you is not true?
Watching tens of hours of this COP, you come away with the feeling that Raeesah Khan is thrown under the bus by the very party RK served, that is WP. Yet, it is the ruling Party that seem to be fighting for RK some justice and fairness she deserves. How ironic sometime Life is.
you obviously have not watched an hour of this COP. :)
Hahahaha!
What is the purpose of showing redacted WhatsApp messages to all who are being questioned ? What’s the point of blanking out parts of those messages and only showing the parts which they want them to see ? Quite strange !! It might end up confusing them when they see only redacted messages.
*WHEN YOU ALREADY KNOW THOSE LIES FOR 3 MONTHS AND DID NOTHING TO EXPOSE IT INSTEAD AS A LEADER YOU ASKED THE LIAR TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR HER OWN LIES BUT YOU DID NOTHING?? ASK YOURSELF WHY ARE YOU PAID MORE TO BE A LEADER AND WHERE IS YOUR SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY AS A LEADER AND DO YOU KNOW THAT LEADERS MUST LEAD BY EXAMPLE SO ASK YOURSELF NOW IF YOUR OWN CHILD IS A LIAR WHAT WOULD YOU DO?*
Yeah, integrity
Watch the whole COP and learn how to type properly before you shoot off that mouth. :)
@Uma Rai Go and read news today SPF has countered his claim about undermining the impact of investigation work so tell me how will you feel if your spouse lied to you for months about an affair and came out with a lame excuse just because you found the truth ?
@@ly8370 If your partner or spouse or children lied to you for several months that damaging your reputation would you not shoot your mouth or just act dumbb like there is no self dignity left to protect ? So sink in deep on that and dont take lies for granted cos it can destroy anyones life.
@Angel
There's nothing wrong for Boba Fett to post comments to show how stupid he is.
it is common sense that who make dirty who clean.
Pritam may not be a liar. He is just very clueless. As a leader, he didn’t know what to do with a lie or clarify. He doesn’t know what his MPs real motives are. Now he is saying his own former MP is actually a mad nutcase and other WP members were lying. How to check the PAP if he cannot check his party? Ownself. Check. Ownself. And how can a Leader of the Opposition now say there was no harm done on the police because of her lies. Omg. Siaoliao.
@theloyalistspeaks So are you implying that the leader of PAP will know how do react and take responsibility in the event of wrongdoings from his party members ? And also , why is ET linking the SPF with PS . ET should ask RK. Wish that more people can the political agenda behind ET .
@@kwangang960 it’s not nothing to do with PAP or WP. It’s got to do with the law. If it’s found out that no one did anything- it is already an offence. Whether it is negligence or compassion.
All Lawyers are trained to believe that A Person is Innocent Untl Proven Quilty
Why Mr Edwin Tong is twisting and turning though WP Senior Leaders mentioned that they have given Mr Raeesah Khan a chance to correct herself as she informed she was the Sexual Assault Victim. A simple English we understand but why Mr Edwin Tong was trying not to understand?
Raeesha lie in Parliament not important anymore. Spend more time with WP leaders. Laughable. Singapore style politics and COP.
Despite that...
Typically political career ends with a bad and weak lie.
To be fair they should invite UN to be the committee
This proceedings crystalise that workers party is controlled opposition. The malay member literally for no reason put his pen and fingers suddenly at his temple pointing to one eye of his for sometime.its symbolise the one eye entity.its a code they use to signal this is controlled opposition putting up this show and as usual the people here are naive so we buy this again.
The interrogator becomes the interrogated.
Edwin Tong had to defend his own questions.
Stupid.
What is objective of the following news about Leon Perera?
Same old bs. Singapore not democratic, no need to act
Let's stop all these nonsense. Good luck to Singapore with our 4G ministers including this guy Edwin Tong. No wonder even 2 lions can escape from their cages at Changi Cargo Complex. Lion City...
Still cant get over the disassociation part, talking without thinking? How in the name of god are you an MP then. Sickening
Luckily WP is not our government , with such kind of leadership who doesn’t seem to have the slightest qualms to disagree with illogical outcomes , and who doesn’t put important paliament related meetings and discussions into meeting minutes or proper records! When things happen, the way this WP leadership handles matters is so ambiguous without a timeline and without a clear and direct objective & direction! Gosh, our small nation won’t be able to afford the consequences! Luckily WP leadership is not our government! Luckily Singapore is still blessed with good karma (so far).
luckily this is only a "lie" COP ..
Quote .. "ex-PAP’s MP, Zainudin Nordin, who was also a mayor and the former president of FAS, who was arrested for alleged misuse of public funds in 2017 and put on police bail but yet all the charges were dropped in September 2021.
Our SPF could not have arrested him for frivolous allegations, can they? .. "
luckily no COP?
See how Pritam strode in at 0:02? So upright! & energetic. Compared to the old man up there!
sry to sidetrack abit. how to book bus to JB *johor. pls advise.
All end up will be all the surprises!
Some of the greatest achievements by WP include the $32M AHTC fund misuse case, the racism case and the lying in parliament case. WP has not made any significant contributions to the people or country, but has been a disgrace and burden.
Fully agree 👍 . Well said. Done nothing except denying beat round the bush. Am resident of aljunied after many years of observation and under them . Truly disheartening of this just only mere words no action
They Follow Chiam See Tong Way in Potong Pasir.
Agreed $ all residents hard earned money and getting away with all their discrepancies. They are accountable .Not only this case
@@gracelim2336 chiam see Tong do not have so many bad publicities .
It's a warped world-- on the world stage, a bad opposition is better than no opposition for Singapore. If there's no opposition, the West says there's no democracy -- never mind if it's the people's choice, never mind if the people live decently.
PS answers are jackpot and ET is no match for him... I don't think PS is concerned about his reputation like what he mentioned. He is people's person and their voice
PS is a good politician, but as a leader, he need to learn how to manage ppl and his team. If he would have manage them properly, all these could have settle by now.
If those word spoken by his member is truth, it seem he have yet to gain respect from his team.
He is trying to squeeze juice out of a coconut.
i dont understand. P says R is an MP that can take ownership and responsibility. Why does P insists R to tell her parents? R is a parent to young children as well. This line of statement before action is not even relevant.
Aiyah y so much of talking.. firstly advise
Why Mp Salary is very High??
Why Hdb 99 lease can’t be extended??
Why the price of Hdb is very high compare to other countries??
Why so many foreigners in Singapore taking up our space??
You can walk around and see now most blocks void deck foreigners grouping up and drinking Alcohol…does it look like a safe and pleasant environments for our children??
Foreigners working in Singapore own maybe 2 houses and few vehicles in their country..
What does Singaporean have ??
After 35-45years yours Hdb price seems to decline.. Why the Govt can’t provide owners with a compensation scheme??
Why the DP is questionable by the opposition.. why it’s not neutral party on this clarification…
Looking very obvious to corner the WP…