'It feels like my insides are rotting'. I get that. Depression can make me feel the same way. As if you have outlived your life, almost. I have often said I feel like I am rotting inside. When someone is experiencing a powerful delusion like this, it is important not to challenge the delusion unless absolutely necessary. It seems counterproductive, but you will only make the patient more agitated and like you aren't listening. With delusions, you may as well tell someone the sky is not blue. The mind is very powerful, no matter how illogical it gets, it can convince us of anything. It is the most powerful persuasive force on this planet in my opinion. That being said, if someone is asking you if something is real, it is okay to tell them. Sometimes they need the reassurance.
Many years ago I was hospitalized for profound depression - it was immovable for a long time. I will never forget meeting a fellow patient who said he had worms in his head. He was a handsome young black man and it seemed very unusual that he was there. But no one denied him his thoughts, but just tried to support him. But as we got to know him, we discovered that he had escaped from Uganda, which was then under the brutal rule of Idi Amin. He had been the star of the national soccer team, and, to motivate him, his family members had been slaughtered, one by one 😢. So indeed, he HAD SEEN bodies with worms ! Then his last remaining brother, who was living in Canada, managed to secretly get him out. But then he was left in a small apartment, in the depths of winter, while his brother worked, and the images in his brain festered. I've been through subsequent depressions, and learned that everything changes eventually, if you hang on and keep trying. But I will never forget Richard - I think that for him, being denied his reality would have destroyed him.
What he had is called walking corpse syndrome, it’s incredibly rare and can be linked to schizophrenia, psychotic disorders, dementia and possible brain injury, it’s not linked to depression, but depression can potentially be a symptom of the disorder, but it’s rare
The stuff about electro convulsive therapy in the first segment is true. Though, from what I’ve read from people who have undergone the treatment, the results can be a mixed bag depending on the individual. Some patients said it cleared up the worst symptoms of their illness completely, in others it made it all worse. That divisive response is probably part of the reason why it’s typically used as a last resort when other more conventional treatments such as talk therapy and medication don’t work for a person.
Exactly. You weigh the pros and cons of anything you do. Talk therapy and standard medications? Low cons, fairly high pros. ECT has lots of cons. But if it’s all you’ve got left, it might be worth the risk to do it.
As someone at 30 is having my 80th surgery. Had the youngest hip replacement in my state. My whole jaw is botched (x6 times) replacement surgery and the next one is to fix this. I have had extreme orthopedic surgery my whole life. When I see people ruin their face to look different when they are perfectly beautiful and I think how I can’t even close my mouth anymore. One had a choice and one didn’t. People don’t understand how risky surgery really is. Or seeing people do reckless things that wreck their body when I never chose to always be in pain and not do what everyone else can. I understand how the doctor feels.
I really hope your surgeries go well for you - I've never been in your place, but I imagine you must be really brave to face that and go through all the recovery. Hearing you've gone through all that at such a young age really shows how amazing and resilient humans are. Thank you for sharing your experience here, I bet there'll be people who'll feel heard or comforted from hearing from someone who's also been through so much.
I knew a few people who had ect and my friend was happy to have it as it decreased the length of her schizoaffective depression , others I knew were also happy to have it as it decreased the length of their depression and one person kept forgetting who I was and we kept reengaging always positively. There is also magnetic based therapy having same effect as ECT now. My friend tried this later in her life and it also worked really well.
I work in a carehome for people with severe mental illnesses and i was so shocked by the first video. the first patient looks, sounds and shows the EXACT same symptoms as one of my patients. Its uncanny
14:12 "You're keeping my patients from getting the care they need." No, he's keeping the hospital from getting harpooned by the F.D.A for going against patient wishes by denying someone with sound mind and body the right to refuse surgery. Like it or not, that right is important, especially when the doctor is either incompetent, overestimating their ability, putting financial risk on the patient or assuming what is best for the patient.
This show loves the "real doctors do whatever they need to do to save their patients." The cop Chicago ones do the same thing; "real cops don't need to follow the law." It's not just infuriating to watch that unfold, it's unforgivable that they make it seem like that's the correct way to act. The whole "nothing is more important that trying to live for 5 seconds longer" is very insulting.
Dr. Charles' cases all boil down to I don't blame people, I blame society and I blame (many of) the people in power. If only irl healthcare could be like the type Dr. Charles gives. The world would be better for it.
I wish for that last one they'd cast Brent Spiner in that role as the patient. I'd love to see him walking around with yellow skin, but with a completely real-world explanation for it.
The opening two minutes of this video (season 8) highlights there is a falloff in the quality of the scripts for the characters/doctors compared to earlier seasons.
Cotard's syndrome is genuinely terrifying though: she's a lot better now, but I know someone who for a couple of years was truly, genuinely convinced she was a walking corpse. She was rational in nearly every other aspect of her life, she just thought she was physically rotting and decomposing underneath her clothes - just like the patient in the first clip. I don't know what helped her finally recover from that particular delusion, but I was really relieved when she did, as it was awful seeing and hearing about - I can't imagine how horrifying it was to experience first hand.
“i heard you were dead. i’m sorry to hear that”
LMAOOO
'It feels like my insides are rotting'. I get that. Depression can make me feel the same way. As if you have outlived your life, almost. I have often said I feel like I am rotting inside. When someone is experiencing a powerful delusion like this, it is important not to challenge the delusion unless absolutely necessary. It seems counterproductive, but you will only make the patient more agitated and like you aren't listening. With delusions, you may as well tell someone the sky is not blue. The mind is very powerful, no matter how illogical it gets, it can convince us of anything. It is the most powerful persuasive force on this planet in my opinion. That being said, if someone is asking you if something is real, it is okay to tell them. Sometimes they need the reassurance.
Hope you feel 100 percent better and no longer feel your rotting inside I pray 2025 will be a beautiful positive year for you!!!
Many years ago I was hospitalized for profound depression - it was immovable for a long time. I will never forget meeting a fellow patient who said he had worms in his head. He was a handsome young black man and it seemed very unusual that he was there. But no one denied him his thoughts, but just tried to support him.
But as we got to know him, we discovered that he had escaped from Uganda, which was then under the brutal rule of Idi Amin. He had been the star of the national soccer team, and, to motivate him, his family members had been slaughtered, one by one 😢. So indeed, he HAD SEEN bodies with worms !
Then his last remaining brother, who was living in Canada, managed to secretly get him out. But then he was left in a small apartment, in the depths of winter, while his brother worked, and the images in his brain festered.
I've been through subsequent depressions, and learned that everything changes eventually, if you hang on and keep trying.
But I will never forget Richard - I think that for him, being denied his reality would have destroyed him.
What he had is called walking corpse syndrome, it’s incredibly rare and can be linked to schizophrenia, psychotic disorders, dementia and possible brain injury, it’s not linked to depression, but depression can potentially be a symptom of the disorder, but it’s rare
@@krissieturner7885 Very nice summary of the Cotard delusion. I can't imagine the distress these patients feel.
The stuff about electro convulsive therapy in the first segment is true. Though, from what I’ve read from people who have undergone the treatment, the results can be a mixed bag depending on the individual. Some patients said it cleared up the worst symptoms of their illness completely, in others it made it all worse. That divisive response is probably part of the reason why it’s typically used as a last resort when other more conventional treatments such as talk therapy and medication don’t work for a person.
Exactly. You weigh the pros and cons of anything you do. Talk therapy and standard medications? Low cons, fairly high pros.
ECT has lots of cons. But if it’s all you’ve got left, it might be worth the risk to do it.
Wouldn’t be med without Dr Charles!
As someone at 30 is having my 80th surgery. Had the youngest hip replacement in my state. My whole jaw is botched (x6 times) replacement surgery and the next one is to fix this. I have had extreme orthopedic surgery my whole life. When I see people ruin their face to look different when they are perfectly beautiful and I think how I can’t even close my mouth anymore. One had a choice and one didn’t. People don’t understand how risky surgery really is. Or seeing people do reckless things that wreck their body when I never chose to always be in pain and not do what everyone else can. I understand how the doctor feels.
I really hope your surgeries go well for you - I've never been in your place, but I imagine you must be really brave to face that and go through all the recovery.
Hearing you've gone through all that at such a young age really shows how amazing and resilient humans are. Thank you for sharing your experience here, I bet there'll be people who'll feel heard or comforted from hearing from someone who's also been through so much.
I knew a few people who had ect and my friend was happy to have it as it decreased the length of her schizoaffective depression , others I knew were also happy to have it as it decreased the length of their depression and one person kept forgetting who I was and we kept reengaging always positively. There is also magnetic based therapy having same effect as ECT now. My friend tried this later in her life and it also worked really well.
I work in a carehome for people with severe mental illnesses and i was so shocked by the first video. the first patient looks, sounds and shows the EXACT same symptoms as one of my patients. Its uncanny
14:12 "You're keeping my patients from getting the care they need."
No, he's keeping the hospital from getting harpooned by the F.D.A for going against patient wishes by denying someone with sound mind and body the right to refuse surgery. Like it or not, that right is important, especially when the doctor is either incompetent, overestimating their ability, putting financial risk on the patient or assuming what is best for the patient.
This show loves the "real doctors do whatever they need to do to save their patients." The cop Chicago ones do the same thing; "real cops don't need to follow the law." It's not just infuriating to watch that unfold, it's unforgivable that they make it seem like that's the correct way to act.
The whole "nothing is more important that trying to live for 5 seconds longer" is very insulting.
Dr. Charles' cases all boil down to I don't blame people, I blame society and I blame (many of) the people in power.
If only irl healthcare could be like the type Dr. Charles gives. The world would be better for it.
I wish for that last one they'd cast Brent Spiner in that role as the patient. I'd love to see him walking around with yellow skin, but with a completely real-world explanation for it.
Or maybe I would see Bob Wheeler jaundiced from a viral infection caused by an exploding chicken. (Insert your own unlikely scenario)
love chicago med
Same it’s the bestttttt
Same
me too
I actually hate these shows so much, but i can't get enough of the clips. ESPECIALLY the Oliver Platt ones!!
Meh
The opening two minutes of this video (season 8) highlights there is a falloff in the quality of the scripts for the characters/doctors compared to earlier seasons.
Patient: "I'm already dead".
Doctor: "NANI?"
I truly wish all doctors were this ethical and morally wired. Sincerely, this is how I wish to receive medical care.
18:12 she okay? She’s looking a little yellow on her face. Isn’t being yellow a sign of kidney or liver failure?
Cotard's syndrome is genuinely terrifying though: she's a lot better now, but I know someone who for a couple of years was truly, genuinely convinced she was a walking corpse. She was rational in nearly every other aspect of her life, she just thought she was physically rotting and decomposing underneath her clothes - just like the patient in the first clip. I don't know what helped her finally recover from that particular delusion, but I was really relieved when she did, as it was awful seeing and hearing about - I can't imagine how horrifying it was to experience first hand.
Why do they have all the crazy gelled-up hair?
I guess there favorite subject was Physics
Sponsored by Kerastase??
@@justsad-1392 :) that really did make me lol.
I have had ECT and that is not how they do it.
ECT nowdays in legal places are very different from how they do it in the past/ less legal “help”
2:06 WHY’D HE SHAKE IT ? 💀💀💀
Who’s the actor who plays David？
John Henry Ward is his name- I looked it up because I thought he looked similar to the dude in Hereditary for a hot minute. 😅
What happened I’m so confused