Alfa Romeo Stelvio Ti Snow Drive | Testing Michelin Pilot Sport 4S AS Tires
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- AlfaRomeo Stelvio Ti Snow Drive Testing Micheline Pilot Sport 4S AS Tires
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Just had a snow drive with my stelvio. Way beyond my expectation - unbelievably stable
Thanks for your videos on the Stelvio! They're the only really decent ones on TH-cam. We have a 2021 Stelvio Ti and living in Canada, I agree with your assessments entirely. Get a separate set of wheels and snow tires not just for the snow but also the extreme cold makes the all season compounds so hard that it can be tough to stop even on dry roads. Plus, we get an insurance discount because we run separate winter tires. I didn't drop the wheel size all the way to 18" but did drop it to 19" from the stock 20" wheels and put Pirelli Ice Zero tires on that work great. The Stelvio is a total champ in the snowy/icy/cold conditions up here. I'll definitely be switching out to the Michelin's from the Conti's when the time comes for the all season tires based on your previous video review. Thanks again!
I just bought a 2018 Stelvio. (We used to own the Giulia) we don't have snow, but it appears these tires are great. I took off my Conti's and installed Pirelli Scorpion's. Again, we don't have snow in Cali. Great videos, I watch them all.
Thanks for the tire repot/review....loving your spec on the Stelvio!
I have a 2019 Stelvio I drop down from 20" stock tires to 18" Perrilli ice zero winter tires dedicated for Canada winter weathers. Since the lock down I dont go out much often unless I have to. Thanks for making this video and all your videos for the Stelvio it helps so much.
i bet yours must be incredible in the snow
I just bought these Michelin Pilot AS 4 to replace crappy Bridgestone EL440's on CX-30 turbo. We got hit with this same storm, pretty much first time out in snow this season with Micheline X-ICE SNOWs, what a wonderful tire in the slush/ice/snow.
this must be the only video on youtube of a regular stelvio (non Quadrifoglio) on snow! Thanks for sharing. I've just bought this car and haven't had a chance to test it. On all seasons you really give a pretty good idea of what the car can do on the snow.
Is that a phone holder you have in your cupholder? I've been looking for something like that with no luck!
Hi Phil, I owned a Stelvio for the last couple years very similar to yours and I had the continentals on and yes I agree they did not do that great in the bad weather. But the Stelvio all wheel drive system is awesome! I own a Maserati Ghibli now and I absolutely love it. But I do miss the Stelvio chassis and the practicality of it. I have been doing some thinking, next year I think I'm going to get into a Stelvio QV 😀. Love the videos Phil and stay safe👍😀
get the Stelvio Qv the chassis is no comparison to the Maserati stuff right now unless the MC20 he he soon enough they wont be making the Alfa using the Giorgio platform
Yes, the Stelvio QV is the way to go.
There's a few provinces in Canada that make winter tires mandatory. Nothing like a fun winter driver with some winters!
Just drove my Stelvio Ti Sport on icy roads. Wow! I hate driving on snow and ice, but it was amazing. I saw cars slipping and sliding all over the place, but my little Stelvio just hugged the road.
awesome the Stelvio has the best handling thats why thanks for sharing your feedback.
Your 'little' Stelvio is as wide as the previous Mercedes S class. 😊
but handles 10x better lmao @@miks564
That's Stelvio really seems stable, seems like that all wheel drive system is fantastic, we're getting hammered up here in New England today
yeah the chassis is the best there is and the tires work amazing
Yeah here in Boston is death... Who has the patience to clean off and move a Giulia out of a snow bank right now 🥶🥵
Do you use D N or A to drive in snow ?
Nice! 😍
Nicey! Going to put my QV to the test later today
be careful today in the QV its a sketchy roller coaster but fun
@@autofanaticcars I want to test out the winter scorpions a little.
Good morning Phil .... I had feeling you would be out driving around in the snow ❄️ I'm in NJ we're buried nothing is moving around not even the birds 😁 just be safe 👍
yeah the roads are terrible but had to try out the new tires while everyone is home sleeping
How is the folding side mirrors in the winter? Do they still work?
i'm just getting mine in a few weeks. is there enough clearance between the tires and the fender wall to run something nubbier, like a yokohama? How's the heater..quick heat up?
Love the car! Can't wait to get mine (and move south😂).
My buddy back home in Detroit just put Continental DWS06's on his wife's Stevio and he said they've been awesome in the snow. You just need the correct tool for the job🤔💡❗
To say those continentals were OK is a horrible understatement of the tire my father had the same Continental tires on his brand new Acura MDX and he got stuck in the damn driveway just pulling out in the snow Phil!
yeah the Conti are horrible tires you would expect AWD SUV to at least make good use of them but they did not excel at anything so glad i tossed them
Have these on my Giulia AWD and they’re pretty amazing at doing it all pretty well.
yeah we absolutely love them so far in the rain they give so much confidence that the Continentals just never had
I am originally from the NE and never used the term “paved” except when referring to the actual road service itself (asphalt vs dirt). We always used the term “plowed” when referring to the snow on the road being cleared of snow. Maybe using the term “paved” vs “plowed” is a NJ thing?
My Giulia Q4 with Sotto3s is a beast in the snow because of the AWD system and the perfect F/R balance makes it super predictable. Amazing to see how many people think their heavy, unbalanced shit heap trucks are automatically great in the snow.
Sotto3 i had on my Shelby GT350 and they were awesome on that car never got stuck and loads of confidence
Hi Phil! Great video and i love the work you do, your products are amazing. I had a question, what is the GPM rating on your new power washer? Also, do you think a fine clay bar would damage a ceramic coating? Thanks!
i did two videos on the new pressure washer watch those, clay mitt is fine just use proper lubrication i did another video on my black Alfa using our 007 Snowstorm soap and the clay mitt, works great no scratches
Should I use A D or N to drive in snow ?
Great video! Just curious when the waterless wash preorders will be shipping out. Can’t wait to try it!
we start shipping tomorrow if they pick up with the bad storm i expect USPS and Fed Ex to be delayed but we will see but orders are shipping out ASAP
@@autofanaticcars awesome thanks for the update!
I have a 21 Giulia Q4 and have yet to drive it in the snow...one of the things that i don't like is not being able to disable T/C....my other car is AWD mazdaspeed6 and with the manual and awd it does an excellent job,now once i got it stuck and being able to disabled T/C is what got it unstuck...
i have the same tires on my Lexus Gs350 from costco $800, these things plow through my long island/queens commute, plus 90mph on the I-95 in rain its the best all season in my opinion
awesome tires under all driving conditions
Thanks for the review. I' m thinking to get the Pirelli as plus 3 or the Michelin pilot sport 4s all, which one is better in the snow? Thank you
I have not tested that Pirelli on any car so comment
I got the pirelli scorpion verde now but looking to get the weather active all season tires I live in Baltimore
You could have also used your hill descent feature when descending the unplowed hill….
Bro how did u dig out? I'm down in NJ and we got wrecked... can't even try out my GTI's new Michelin X-ice tires! Thanks.
its a mess here as well
Hey Phil what’s the MPG ⛽️ you’ve experienced ❓And is it a good enough car for a realtor who drives drives drives drives #Constantly❓
yeah its great for daily use
@@autofanaticcars wow thanks so much for responding how’s the navigation on your edition ? I’m a realtor and the one in my older Lincoln is very faulty ? How’s that one and what’s your city mpg average please and thank you Phil !
Which rotors do you recommend for giulia ti sport? I've spent so much time doing research but I can't come to any conclusions. I completely trust your opinion, so I'd be extremely grateful for a response 🙏 also I saw your video about the yellow stuff brakes and how you can see the yellow colour still. Would this happen with the green stuff brakes as well? Thanks again 🙏
rotors are tricky not many options to be honest might want to stick to OEM, the yellow pads i actually painted the backing plates black otherwise they would look terrible. I did EBC on the Stelvio as well but the red stuff
@@autofanaticcars thanks so much for your response. Are the yellow stuff brakes noisy?
How do you feel the tires compare to a non-performance all season tire?
These perform much better in all driving conditions
Time to look into All-Weather Tires. Like Nokian WR G4 SUV or Micheline CrossClimiate 2. They have the 3 Peak symbol for winter.
if we were staying in NY yes but we are leaving ASAP and this may be my last winter with snow for a long time unless i visit or go skiing in Colorado.
Hi I got the same car as you does the oil tep get to half way in the winter in the highway?
i never really paid attention
Is "paved" a NY term? In Ohio we say the roads are plowed. I noticed he keeps saying "paved" in this video so I'm not sure.
Great video, but I have to say that the Audi RSQ3 would definitely gives the stelvio a run for it's money !
Not really. The Q3 doesn't play in the same segment of the Stelvio. The Q5 does.
Where abouts do u plan to move and how much longer might I be in the northeast?
as soon as a score a house the bidding wars are insane right now because too many people are leaving the North East and California.
Why would anyone want to leave the N/E... Come further North. We have maple syrup
ha ha ha never going further north, maple syrup is easy to order online ha ha
I have the 19 inch Perelli Verde all season they seem to be really good for soft snow but not too good on hard snowy ice not that any tire is good on ice but I think the traction control button you can’t shut off so it’s hard to spin the tires sometimes to get a little wheel spin and get a little momentum to melt the ice when you’re in a hole .
thats a pretty good tire as well but the steering and cornering of the Michelin has a slight edge which is why i choose those.
@@autofanaticcars yes I definitely agree conti’s are superb I just like the way the Perelli tread pattern Looks and the wear and tear is phenomenal
Has it been somewhat reliable ? I’m thinking of getting one. Thank you for your video
Im on my 5th Alfa so far check out my 1 year ownership video of my 2023 Stelvio Veloce posted a few weeks back on this channel
@@autofanaticcars thank you for your time and your amazing videos
I installed 4s tires on kids Ford Fusion 2 years ago. It’s decent in snow. Do not recommend for ice at all.
did you do the 4S summer or the 4S all season they are very different thread compounds and designs.
i still prefer the dws06 plus on my camry, them tires cut throught snow like butter.
the DWS is much softer so the dry handling and steering just isnt there which is why I chose the 4S specifically for the dry handling, they handle the snow incredible if you know how to drive of course
@@autofanaticcars i had the michelin AS3+ and currently the dws06, and i agree the michelin was more driver focused, have stiffer sidewall, but the snow performance was terrible and got loud after 15k miles. the current dws06 is much better in snow. have you had the as3+ and if so, how does the as4 compare?
I will be replacing my Pirelli p zero summer tires with these. I also don’t really want to have 2 sets of tires/wheels. so I’m getting these to have the best high performance all season tire I can get.
try to order them now if you can because with tire shortages are real and Michelin has been affected badly over the last 2 years
@@autofanaticcars thanks for the tip! Yes, I’ve seen lots of shortages in tires and automotive parts at my work.. also, I have noticed a pretty decent price hike on the AS 4’s since I first looked at them on tire rack.
Got a Stelvio but I have the continental tires gotta change them
the stock tires are horrible in all conditions i feel the switch to the Michelins was night and day
Michelin cost more but there is a reason why they do....
I've been driving all my winter vehicles on Michelin tires since 1980, I've tried other brands but Michelin tires stop much faster on snow or ice. If you live where it snows and the streets ice up then you should always buy 4 winter tires...period!
In your case i will drive in manual 2500 rpm (and in advanced efficiency that is the driving mode thinked for slippery surface also), because it gona stop buy her self and not by braking that it will slip straight, also if you have the display that show the shared traction between front and rear wheel will be interesting like my stelvio, but mine is 2021 with upgrated infotainment maybe the old one doesn't not show it! Modify the comment, i see after you keep it in manual and this is better, but also you have not use the ricirculation air in the clima because let everythink foggy 😁
I ve made thum up aa allways, but why are you ruining whipes onn the ise front screen?
as allways but there is the ice on the front glass
How many stop 🛑 sign’s did you miss 😢
Stop signs do not exist in bad weather FYI otherwise you risk getting stuck or hitting the car in front of you.
Michelin pilot sport 4s is one tire on its own… Michelin pilot sport all season 4 is what you must have. Because I don’t think you could drive in those conditions with a regular 4s
In my humble opinion... Nokian WR D4 are better (at least on my Crosswagon, also a Q4) 😁😁😁
Nokians will be better in the snow but not in handling or performance in the dry, i went for that as a deciding factor on these tires since it will be most how we use them.
@@autofanaticcars Well... I had Nokian Zline and they were very good on dry. Uniroyal Rain Sport 3 also. I can't use summer tires because in Poland we never know.
Alfa Romeo Crosswagon Q4 for some reason, have a strange behavior with Michelin and other tires with soft "wall"...
Maybe because I don't use low profile tires and the high profile it's too flexible on curves at a high speed. I'm not talking about highway, there only matters the rubber quality mostly.
Boy I haven’t heard that Italian joke in a long time and I’m half Italian..
that comedian Vic Dibetteto makes these jokes all the time look him up
i didn't get the joke :(