In Feb 2018 we were anchored in No Name Harbor, Key Biscayne and Willow came in and dropped the hook. I recognized it immediately as a Rhodes Chesapeake 32 so I jumped in the dinghy and motored over to speak with the owner. He had undertaken an amazing refit and the boat was pristine. It looks like she remains so today. $25K is a steal!!! I have some great photos of Willow that I can send you in interested.
Just a couple thoughts to consider. Florida is two very different sailing areas. On the east coast draft is rarely a problem. On the west coast draft is everything. Not uncommon on the west coast to be a couple miles out and in only three feet of water. Another major issue for boats in Florida is blistering. Boats prior to 1975 rarely blister. Boats between 77 and 90 are often badly blistered. Having the blisters repaired isn't the end of the story, they nearly always return at other locations on the hull. It stems from the layup process used during those years. I'm a fan of old boats, have owned several, but if you're thinking about staying aboard at anchor in Florida think generator. On the water the heat can be overwhelming, even in the winter. Not many sailboats can accommodate a generator. If you're looking to be a weekend warrior the older boats are a great choice, but be alert for thru-hull issues, engine overheating due to worn out or blocked heat exchanger. Finally boats viewed in person rarely match the quality of posted photos, so be ready for lots of surprises. The heat and salt are really hard on boats. Of your ten, I'd look at the Rhodes, but the interior comfort is likely to fall far short of newer boats. Good luck to those searching in Florida, the market for good boats is really tight and has been since covid.
Hi Betsy! All excellent points. The short answer is everyone should come to Maine to buy their boats - boats up here are in the water for 4-5 months a year! No place is perfect...sadly. Thanks for the thoughtful comments and for watching!
The obstacle to buying a boat in Maine is getting it to where folks want to use it. It is a long and difficult trip by water and usually cost-prohibitive or size impossible by land. I agree the cold water and minimal use is a strong positive. The market in Florida suffers from two few boats and too many buyers, with the opposite the case in Maine. One option I have used is searching the less popular Florida cruising area which is the panhandle. Texas is also a location that permits moving the boat by water with minimal difficulty. I owned a 45 Columbia, shoal draft, which was built like a tank but the boats suffer from water intrusion into the decks so lots of soft spots. Otherwise it is a great boat. California also seems to have more boats than buyers. At the moment I'm searching for a boat in the 30 to 36 foot range with a draft under four feet. Not easy specifications to find other than in a cat or trimaran, and those are incredibly overpriced in Florida. @@boatfools
I grew up on Morgans and Bristols. My father was a dealer for Morgans around 1970's in Sarasota. Bristol is a "gentlemen/Ladies" sailboat. We had the 41.1 and I just loved sailing her in super bad weather (railing in the water).
Keep selling dreams. While I may be able to handle the maintenance and upkeep of a boat, I would prefer to dream, specially at my age of 77. Thanks for your excellent presentation.
This is fantastic intel. And supports why I think the Bristol 32 is one of the prettiest boats on the water. That’s a lot of water for her length. Amazing. Thanks for the information!
@@boatfools In your listing you mentioned a '76 Bristol. At first glance, I thought it might be S/V Kestrel. She's the Bristol 32 I wanna be when I grow up. Originally owned, maintained, and upgraded by John Atkinson, she was sold to someone in Florida after his passing. She sold quickly and for good reason. The website remains available. It details how he made a great boat even better, and covers his solo roundtrip in Kestrel to Europe. Talk about gorgeous. That boat was neat as a pin. The man was a character and his log is a joy to read. I was just discovering sailing when I stumbled onto his website. He was happy to offer answers and advice, though, he was a salty character, and to me, it just made him more likable. Mad respect for the man. My '32's decks are concrete solid (I learned how that felt different than cored ones), has two factory installed water tanks for a total of that 100 gallons, and the Bukh DV20 diesel, a true marine diesel engine. Smooth as butter. She was a Katrina refugee from a New Orleans marina. Her mast had been taken out and she was rounded up with the rest and carted off to Gulfport, MS staging area for auction. When I saw her stern peeking out past another boat, I was intrigued. Looked like the America's Cup boats of old. She looked like a pretty lady having a really bad day, her broken mast lashed on deck. I had to climb up on the boat next to her and jump over to check her out. When I did, I expected the deck to spring ever so slightly. It didn't, my knees buckled just a bit and I almost fell off! I was amazed at how solid she felt. Onboard there were interesting items like a sailing racing rules book and souvenirs from the Caymans. So began my quest to bring her back and to learn about sailing. The quest, thanks to life's vindictive nature, is incomplete, basically on life support at this point, but I haven't given up.
@@tvdroid22 Wow - what a great story and thanks for sharing. Life's vindictive nature is a bitch and I hope you don't give up. Again, thanks for sharing and best of luck!
I should mention that a 1978 Endeavor 32 recently sold here in Milwaukee for $7,000.00 ! This boat seemed to be in good working order with a running diesel. The four ft draft of this boat is fantastic for Chesapeake, Florida, and Bahamas cruising.
The Chesapeake32 is gorgeous and the fact that this boat is also my birth year is even better, thick fiberglass layup and a perfect size for a single or close couple. this is the rare boat that you would want to keep bristol and spend money and time on. i bet she would get a higher price up north and in Puget Sound. simply beautiful.
Love it! Thanks for doing the Florida edition! I've looked at a couple of these online myself. Most of the LWL fall too short for us, but some beauties!!
Another great episode. You mentioned that you used to sail on Fiesta the C&C 40 ... It's been up for sail for some time online ... it's a long trip up to look at it from the NY area. Your thoughts on that specific boat? It looks to be in very good condition from the pictures, but i know for a fact that it has been on the market for quite some time now. One troubling thing to note in the description is that the newest upgrade was two batteries in 2020, and nothing else recent (lifelines back in 2012 -- that's 11 years ago). It does come with significant sail package (14 sails), but no mention of their age or condition.
So, yes, have sailed on Fiesta extensively and have helped commission and decommission over the past two years. Basically she sits on her mooring in Camden from July through August. Used once or twice. She’s a good boat in need of some love and attention. The photos are accurate. But if you’re looking for a boat for cruising, she would need some tweaking (in terms of comfort, like a proper dodger or bimini), but if you’re looking for some race action, she can still tear it up. The asking price hasn’t budged. I think she’s worth a shot at $25k or $28k. The owner loves that boat like it’s his child. Truly.
Boat # 7 image appears to be a Catalina 28 and not a 28 MK II. The MK II was produced later and has additional ports in the hull, bulkheads separating the V-berth from the salon and an angulated galley arrangement. These differences all appear in the spec sheet referenced in the video.. cheers!
I love the Cape Dory 25D except for one thing: Hardly any storage. Great choice for day sailing or overnighters as you said but not for extended cruising.
Agreed! My buddy has the CD30. A lot more room for extended cruising. The 25 is definitely great for days sailing and a weekend here and there. Thanks for watching
Not any where close to being ready to sail. But love watching this lol. Good job mate. I watch chasing latitudes but he thinks your insane to buy anything older than 20yrs and 100k lol
Howdy! I guess it all depends on what kind of sailing one intends to do! Chasing Latitudes: Yeah, if we all went by his benchmarks, only a handful of people could actually afford sailing! Bananas.. Thanks for watching!
Enjoy your presentation very much, never pass by. Not a sailor but wish I were , approaching 80 otherwise I'd order a new 75feet plus aluminum boat,just dreaming.. thanks...
Hi Judson! Thanks for watching! Appreciate your comments. Find someone with a 75-footer and have them take you for a sail! It’s less expensive that way, too!
It is true that here are some very nice and well built older boats around. However, nowadays holding tanks are required and it may be difficult to retrofit one of these into, say, a 28 ft Triton or similar vessel.
Hopefully one can be found that has had that modification work completed already. There are companies that specialize in making tanks for older boats/odd shapes. And there are bladders, but those would make me nervous! Thanks for watching!
Just be sure to look her over closely! If it seems to good to be true, it probably is! Solid boats though- a few for sale up here in the $20-$30k range. Good luck!
Hello! Sorry, what I am saying too quickly is FSBO, a real estate term for FOR SALE BY OWNER. So no broker, possible better deals with sellers more willing to negotiate. Thanks for watching!
Had a Cal 29 rare with Teak wood interior in S. Cali for years but always dreamed of a Cal 40.....if you see one drop me a line. Fixer upper no problem as long as the survey is a good report. You got my blood boiling
I just checked and can’t find her either. She may have sold. Another viewer had previously contacted the seller and it sounded as though she was anxious to sell the boat.
#1 is #1. My only draw back on this is keel and rudder . Wonderful lines above the water line but it's what's below the water line that's a large measure of the vessel. Just saying . Angus
Hello! Welcome aboard! We do put the links to the listings in the description below the video - so hopefully you can find them there. Thanks for watching!
Just found your channel, experienced boater but away from it for a while. The landscape for moorage and insurance has changed for the worse; who's writing policies on these boats over 40 years old?
Hello! Thanks for watching. We got ours through Berkley One. I know that when we were shopping around, having a sailing resume helped - as did having prior boat ownership. Policies are out there - mooring may not be! A seven year wait list here in Camden - so we went down the road 7 miles and there was no wait. Go figure. Lloyds of London also underwrites older boats - as does Progressive. Thanks for watching!
Hi Mark! Sorry, I should be more clear. It’s a real estate acronym, FSBO, or For Sale By Owner. So no broker involved looking for a commission. Thanks for watching!
You are selling dreams and ignoring moneypits. Leaks, deck cores, rotten plywood that was not marine ply. Rigging well past replacement date. Sails shot. Those prices can triple with typical problemz. Every boat is reported to be in excellent condition. Fantasyland.
First of all, thanks for watching. Secondly, I respect your opinion. I will add, however, that I always recommend a trust but verify approach, and always recommend a survey. When a boat is suggested to be in "excellent condition" - it's relative and the boat should be scrutinized carefully. No boat that is 20-50 years old is in "excellent condition". That said, of course I am selling dreams - and I hope people follow their own. There are plenty of "good" used boats out there. What's the alternative? Sell your home and buy a boat? There are very few of us out there who can or should do that... As I've said before, it's a lot like buying an antique car (or any car). But on an antique car, you might have to have some welding done, some bondo work completed, an engine rebuild, or get new tires on account of dry rot. We don't buy an antique car because it's smart, or efficient, etc. We buy one because we love it. Same with used boats. Obviously, when I am searching for boats, I am looking for those that appear to be in the best condition within the budget. I am not looking for beaters. Lastly, a friend of mine bought a used Cape Dory 30 for $9,000 seven years ago. Other than brightwork and a new dodger (and oil changes and regular seasonal maintenance) he's done nothing to it. It's a 1980 sailboat. And he sails more than anyone I know and he loves that boat more than his rum and tonics.
Why so bitter and hostile? It’s not like the man is representing these boats as being perfect vessels so you should run to the seller throwing the full price at them sight unseen. He clearly says “reported to be…” when he mentions the claims about condition listed in the ad. And I know I heard him say several times that certain things were “concerning”. He’s just reading ads and looking at photos to pick out some boats that would be worth looking at due to reasons which many new to sailing folks looking for a first boat aren’t likely to know, like certain models or manufacturers that are particularly sought after or desirable and things that may be an issue…even including which boats he thinks could or should be had for less than the asking price. He’s providing information that people wouldn’t have unless they have a knowledgeable friend. And that’s pretty valuable and helpful to a lot of buyers. He’s definitely educating and providing lots of useful info and guidance. If anyone were to go off and buy one of these boats without a survey, or at least having it looked over informally believing that it must be tip top and ready to sail around the world on day one, then they aren’t too sharp and can’t blame anyone but themselves for buying a barely floating turd.
Common sense would be to get boats checked out and be ready to spend $$$ on maintenance and other hidden/surprise costs. But he did say "fixer-upper" and "needs TLC" in the vid also. That means spending $$$$$$$$
Man I’ve never even heard of the Chesapeake 32 but she’s GORGEOUS. The Bristols are lovely as well although somehow the 32 is just slightly prettier. Keep up the great work. And now I’ve got a new old boat to add to my list 👌
its no wonder these boats are so cheap. i called a few live on board marinas today-,not many, let you live on the boat and dockage was $1100 plus electric. thats $13,200 pER YEAR. $65,000 FOR 5 YEARS
Hurricane damagef boats and psychotic dock fees in S . FL as much as a house mortgage just for dock space.... No moorings, theives and Nazis enforcing anchor out prohibitions everywhere
Absolutely spot on. I’m just getting into sailing so I opted for a C22 trailer sailor for ease of storage at my house. Dreaming of a cheap dock or mooring 😅
Those old 70's boats are worth almost nothing, they have no value And you definately don't want a boat with over 4ft of draft, even LESS would be better on the west coast of Florida, is so shallow there. You need to be able to run up to the beach as close as possible. Winds are usually so light, you don't want a SLUG of a boat with a full keel, will be slow as hell. AND slip rents have gone off the charts in Florida as I imagine has insurance, if you can even get it, and you NEED IT if you're in a marina. The old days of a $100 slip are long gone, try $400++ per month
Your #1 has NO LIFELINES ! She is beautiful but dangerous. Imagine going forward to retrieve a dragging anchor in 2’chop all you have is a 2” toe rail.
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In Feb 2018 we were anchored in No Name Harbor, Key Biscayne and Willow came in and dropped the hook. I recognized it immediately as a Rhodes Chesapeake 32 so I jumped in the dinghy and motored over to speak with the owner. He had undertaken an amazing refit and the boat was pristine. It looks like she remains so today. $25K is a steal!!! I have some great photos of Willow that I can send you in interested.
100% interested. She is so beautiful. I hope someone gets her because I agree that the price is right!
Just a couple thoughts to consider. Florida is two very different sailing areas. On the east coast draft is rarely a problem. On the west coast draft is everything. Not uncommon on the west coast to be a couple miles out and in only three feet of water. Another major issue for boats in Florida is blistering. Boats prior to 1975 rarely blister. Boats between 77 and 90 are often badly blistered. Having the blisters repaired isn't the end of the story, they nearly always return at other locations on the hull. It stems from the layup process used during those years.
I'm a fan of old boats, have owned several, but if you're thinking about staying aboard at anchor in Florida think generator. On the water the heat can be overwhelming, even in the winter. Not many sailboats can accommodate a generator.
If you're looking to be a weekend warrior the older boats are a great choice, but be alert for thru-hull issues, engine overheating due to worn out or blocked heat exchanger. Finally boats viewed in person rarely match the quality of posted photos, so be ready for lots of surprises. The heat and salt are really hard on boats. Of your ten, I'd look at the Rhodes, but the interior comfort is likely to fall far short of newer boats. Good luck to those searching in Florida, the market for good boats is really tight and has been since covid.
Hi Betsy! All excellent points. The short answer is everyone should come to Maine to buy their boats - boats up here are in the water for 4-5 months a year! No place is perfect...sadly. Thanks for the thoughtful comments and for watching!
The obstacle to buying a boat in Maine is getting it to where folks want to use it. It is a long and difficult trip by water and usually cost-prohibitive or size impossible by land. I agree the cold water and minimal use is a strong positive. The market in Florida suffers from two few boats and too many buyers, with the opposite the case in Maine. One option I have used is searching the less popular Florida cruising area which is the panhandle. Texas is also a location that permits moving the boat by water with minimal difficulty. I owned a 45 Columbia, shoal draft, which was built like a tank but the boats suffer from water intrusion into the decks so lots of soft spots. Otherwise it is a great boat. California also seems to have more boats than buyers. At the moment I'm searching for a boat in the 30 to 36 foot range with a draft under four feet. Not easy specifications to find other than in a cat or trimaran, and those are incredibly overpriced in Florida.
@@boatfools
I grew up on Morgans and Bristols. My father was a dealer for Morgans around 1970's in Sarasota. Bristol is a "gentlemen/Ladies" sailboat. We had the 41.1 and I just loved sailing her in super bad weather (railing in the water).
Nice! And thanks for watching!
Keep selling dreams. While I may be able to handle the maintenance and upkeep of a boat, I would prefer to dream, specially at my age of 77. Thanks for your excellent presentation.
Dreaming is a-ok! Thanks for watching!
Bristol 32 does hold 100gal water. Decks are solid fiberglass, no coring. As for hobby-horsing, the simple solution is to bear off a few degrees.
This is fantastic intel. And supports why I think the Bristol 32 is one of the prettiest boats on the water. That’s a lot of water for her length. Amazing. Thanks for the information!
@@boatfools In your listing you mentioned a '76 Bristol. At first glance, I thought it might be S/V Kestrel. She's the Bristol 32 I wanna be when I grow up. Originally owned, maintained, and upgraded by John Atkinson, she was sold to someone in Florida after his passing. She sold quickly and for good reason. The website remains available. It details how he made a great boat even better, and covers his solo roundtrip in Kestrel to Europe. Talk about gorgeous. That boat was neat as a pin. The man was a character and his log is a joy to read. I was just discovering sailing when I stumbled onto his website. He was happy to offer answers and advice, though, he was a salty character, and to me, it just made him more likable. Mad respect for the man. My '32's decks are concrete solid (I learned how that felt different than cored ones), has two factory installed water tanks for a total of that 100 gallons, and the Bukh DV20 diesel, a true marine diesel engine. Smooth as butter. She was a Katrina refugee from a New Orleans marina. Her mast had been taken out and she was rounded up with the rest and carted off to Gulfport, MS staging area for auction. When I saw her stern peeking out past another boat, I was intrigued. Looked like the America's Cup boats of old. She looked like a pretty lady having a really bad day, her broken mast lashed on deck. I had to climb up on the boat next to her and jump over to check her out. When I did, I expected the deck to spring ever so slightly. It didn't, my knees buckled just a bit and I almost fell off! I was amazed at how solid she felt. Onboard there were interesting items like a sailing racing rules book and souvenirs from the Caymans. So began my quest to bring her back and to learn about sailing. The quest, thanks to life's vindictive nature, is incomplete, basically on life support at this point, but I haven't given up.
@@tvdroid22 Wow - what a great story and thanks for sharing. Life's vindictive nature is a bitch and I hope you don't give up. Again, thanks for sharing and best of luck!
Much appreciated! Many thanks ..following along and learning as I go. When I purchase as boat I'll know a good one when I see her.
Please keep me posted! Happy to weigh in and give feedback!
I should mention that a 1978 Endeavor 32 recently sold here in Milwaukee for $7,000.00 ! This boat seemed to be in good working order with a running diesel. The four ft draft of this boat is fantastic for Chesapeake, Florida, and Bahamas cruising.
Nice! Thanks for sharing that intel!
The Chesapeake32 is gorgeous and the fact that this boat is also my birth year is even better, thick fiberglass layup and a perfect size for a single or close couple. this is the rare boat that you would want to keep bristol and spend money and time on. i bet she would get a higher price up north and in Puget Sound. simply beautiful.
I agree with everything you have said! She would command more up here in Maine, too. She is an absolute knockout. Thanks for watching!
Love it! Thanks for doing the Florida edition! I've looked at a couple of these online myself. Most of the LWL fall too short for us, but some beauties!!
Thanks, Chris! We’ll be looking at some bigger boats down your way soon enough! What are you in the market for? Thanks for watching!
@boatfools awesome! We're looking at closer to 40 foot range so it has more livable space. A potential full time cruiser.
Fantastic and I am jealous! Ok, stay tuned!
Had the 26d in the past wonderful yacht. The Rhodes is mind blowing. Great selections. Cheers
She’s so pretty!!! Thanks for watching!
Another great episode. You mentioned that you used to sail on Fiesta the C&C 40 ... It's been up for sail for some time online ... it's a long trip up to look at it from the NY area. Your thoughts on that specific boat? It looks to be in very good condition from the pictures, but i know for a fact that it has been on the market for quite some time now. One troubling thing to note in the description is that the newest upgrade was two batteries in 2020, and nothing else recent (lifelines back in 2012 -- that's 11 years ago). It does come with significant sail package (14 sails), but no mention of their age or condition.
So, yes, have sailed on Fiesta extensively and have helped commission and decommission over the past two years. Basically she sits on her mooring in Camden from July through August. Used once or twice. She’s a good boat in need of some love and attention. The photos are accurate. But if you’re looking for a boat for cruising, she would need some tweaking (in terms of comfort, like a proper dodger or bimini), but if you’re looking for some race action, she can still tear it up. The asking price hasn’t budged. I think she’s worth a shot at $25k or $28k. The owner loves that boat like it’s his child. Truly.
Boat # 7 image appears to be a Catalina 28 and not a 28 MK II. The MK II was produced later and has additional ports in the hull, bulkheads separating the V-berth from the salon and an angulated galley arrangement. These differences all appear in the spec sheet referenced in the video.. cheers!
Thank you for that clarification and thanks for watching!
I love the Cape Dory 25D except for one thing: Hardly any storage. Great choice for day sailing or overnighters as you said but not for extended cruising.
Agreed! My buddy has the CD30. A lot more room for extended cruising. The 25 is definitely great for days sailing and a weekend here and there. Thanks for watching
Could you do Top 10 under 2K
I'll take the Bristols in this video possibly the Morgan, just found your channel, New England Sailor here!
Good choices! Thanks for watching and welcome aboard! I really like the Bristol 35…
Not any where close to being ready to sail. But love watching this lol. Good job mate. I watch chasing latitudes but he thinks your insane to buy anything older than 20yrs and 100k lol
Howdy! I guess it all depends on what kind of sailing one intends to do! Chasing Latitudes: Yeah, if we all went by his benchmarks, only a handful of people could actually afford sailing! Bananas.. Thanks for watching!
The cat 28 mkii has some issues. It's very different from other ones. It looks like they removed a bulk head in front of the v berth
Good intel. Thank you!
Enjoy your presentation very much, never pass by. Not a sailor but wish I were , approaching 80 otherwise I'd order a new 75feet plus aluminum boat,just dreaming.. thanks...
Hi Judson! Thanks for watching! Appreciate your comments. Find someone with a 75-footer and have them take you for a sail! It’s less expensive that way, too!
It is true that here are some very nice and well built older boats around. However, nowadays holding tanks are required and it may be difficult to retrofit one of these into, say, a 28 ft Triton or similar vessel.
Hopefully one can be found that has had that modification work completed already. There are companies that specialize in making tanks for older boats/odd shapes. And there are bladders, but those would make me nervous! Thanks for watching!
I'm pretty old, and my bladder makes me nervous all the time!@@boatfools
@@jeffreyerwin3665 Haha! I am laughing with you, not at you. I know the feeling...so to speak.
Can you recommend someone who can help search for a particular 50’ ketch? I was one of the builders advise
Not off the top of my head. But was it a one-off custom boat? Where was she built?
Looking for boats in FL. Love this ❤
Let me know if I should keep an eye out for something! Thanks for watching!
@@boatfools saw a little Island Packet 26 for sale in Miami last week. I think it was $10k if so that’s a steal.
Just be sure to look her over closely! If it seems to good to be true, it probably is! Solid boats though- a few for sale up here in the $20-$30k range. Good luck!
what is a fizz boat??? viz boat?? my hearing sucks but I keep hearing the term and have to know!! thx
Hello! Sorry, what I am saying too quickly is FSBO, a real estate term for FOR SALE BY OWNER. So no broker, possible better deals with sellers more willing to negotiate. Thanks for watching!
Had a Cal 29 rare with Teak wood interior in S. Cali for years but always dreamed of a Cal 40.....if you see one drop me a line. Fixer upper no problem as long as the survey is a good report. You got my blood boiling
Hi Scott - will do! I do love those Cal 40s.. Thanks for watching!
Can’t find the Bristol 35. Anyone have a link to the boat or has it sold?
I just checked and can’t find her either. She may have sold. Another viewer had previously contacted the seller and it sounded as though she was anxious to sell the boat.
That review was HOT HOT HOT! THANKS!
Thank you!
#1 is #1. My only draw back on this is keel and rudder . Wonderful lines above the water line but it's what's below the water line that's a large measure of the vessel. Just saying .
Angus
The full keel? Tell me more!
Long keel or full either one
Wow❗❗❗great review ❗❗❗do you have website for these sailing boat you featured here? Tysm👍
New subscriber here 🇵🇭
Hello! Welcome aboard! We do put the links to the listings in the description below the video - so hopefully you can find them there. Thanks for watching!
Just found your channel, experienced boater but away from it for a while. The landscape for moorage and insurance has changed for the worse; who's writing policies on these boats over 40 years old?
Hello! Thanks for watching. We got ours through Berkley One. I know that when we were shopping around, having a sailing resume helped - as did having prior boat ownership. Policies are out there - mooring may not be! A seven year wait list here in Camden - so we went down the road 7 miles and there was no wait. Go figure. Lloyds of London also underwrites older boats - as does Progressive. Thanks for watching!
RIP JIMMY BUFFETT
Yep…
What is a "fizboat"??? Something like that, he repeatedly used this as a reason that you might offer a much cheaper price.
Hi Mark! Sorry, I should be more clear. It’s a real estate acronym, FSBO, or For Sale By Owner. So no broker involved looking for a commission. Thanks for watching!
You are selling dreams and ignoring moneypits. Leaks, deck cores, rotten plywood that was not marine ply. Rigging well past replacement date. Sails shot. Those prices can triple with typical problemz. Every boat is reported to be in excellent condition. Fantasyland.
First of all, thanks for watching. Secondly, I respect your opinion. I will add, however, that I always recommend a trust but verify approach, and always recommend a survey. When a boat is suggested to be in "excellent condition" - it's relative and the boat should be scrutinized carefully. No boat that is 20-50 years old is in "excellent condition". That said, of course I am selling dreams - and I hope people follow their own. There are plenty of "good" used boats out there. What's the alternative? Sell your home and buy a boat? There are very few of us out there who can or should do that... As I've said before, it's a lot like buying an antique car (or any car). But on an antique car, you might have to have some welding done, some bondo work completed, an engine rebuild, or get new tires on account of dry rot. We don't buy an antique car because it's smart, or efficient, etc. We buy one because we love it. Same with used boats. Obviously, when I am searching for boats, I am looking for those that appear to be in the best condition within the budget. I am not looking for beaters. Lastly, a friend of mine bought a used Cape Dory 30 for $9,000 seven years ago. Other than brightwork and a new dodger (and oil changes and regular seasonal maintenance) he's done nothing to it. It's a 1980 sailboat. And he sails more than anyone I know and he loves that boat more than his rum and tonics.
@@boatfoolsthat was a courteous and well stated reply. As I approach retirement after a nasty divorce…well please keep selling dreams amigo
Why so bitter and hostile? It’s not like the man is representing these boats as being perfect vessels so you should run to the seller throwing the full price at them sight unseen. He clearly says “reported to be…” when he mentions the claims about condition listed in the ad. And I know I heard him say several times that certain things were “concerning”. He’s just reading ads and looking at photos to pick out some boats that would be worth looking at due to reasons which many new to sailing folks looking for a first boat aren’t likely to know, like certain models or manufacturers that are particularly sought after or desirable and things that may be an issue…even including which boats he thinks could or should be had for less than the asking price. He’s providing information that people wouldn’t have unless they have a knowledgeable friend. And that’s pretty valuable and helpful to a lot of buyers. He’s definitely educating and providing lots of useful info and guidance. If anyone were to go off and buy one of these boats without a survey, or at least having it looked over informally believing that it must be tip top and ready to sail around the world on day one, then they aren’t too sharp and can’t blame anyone but themselves for buying a barely floating turd.
Thank you for being a reasonable and kind human! And happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
Common sense would be to get boats checked out and be ready to spend $$$ on maintenance and other hidden/surprise costs.
But he did say "fixer-upper" and "needs TLC" in the vid also. That means spending $$$$$$$$
I'm A native of collage Park, thought I recognized that accent! 😂
Blue Water
You keep saying fisbow? What does that mean?
Hi Tom, sorry, I should have defined it in the video. FSBO is the acronym for For Sale By Owner - so no broker middleman. Thanks for watching!
How much would cost to ship boat to Croatia?
Ha! Probably as much as any of these boats…
Man I’ve never even heard of the Chesapeake 32 but she’s GORGEOUS. The Bristols are lovely as well although somehow the 32 is just slightly prettier. Keep up the great work. And now I’ve got a new old boat to add to my list 👌
Thank you, sir! Agreed on all points! Some pretty, pretty boats! Thanks for watching!
Looking for a45-to 80ft Tony &Sandy Shaw
In Florida?
is this still available
Which boat? The one in the thumbnail? You can check the links in the description below the video. Thanks for watching!
No watermakers ?
You have been watching too many fake sailing TH-cam channels.
im so jealous of those prices...
I know it! Pretty great!
its no wonder these boats are so cheap. i called a few live on board marinas today-,not many, let you live on the boat and dockage was $1100 plus electric. thats $13,200 pER YEAR. $65,000 FOR 5 YEARS
Where in FL was this? East coast, west coast? Sheesh. That’s a lot!
Those sound like Florida Keys prices.
Please define TLC
Fair question. It’s short for Tender, Loving Care… In short, she just needs some love and attention. Thanks for watching!
CD 25 is a nice boat but a bit overpriced based for its age and length in my opinion.
She probably is - and since it's a FSBO, I would dive in with a low offer... Thanks for watching!
Hurricane damagef boats and psychotic dock fees in S . FL as much as a house mortgage just for dock space.... No moorings, theives and Nazis enforcing anchor out prohibitions everywhere
Sheesh. Is this just a west coast issue? Seven year waitlist for a mooring up here in our town!
Sounds like people will give away boats to get out from that lol
Absolutely spot on. I’m just getting into sailing so I opted for a C22 trailer sailor for ease of storage at my house. Dreaming of a cheap dock or mooring 😅
There's a 27' Norsea project for sale near Tampa, price keeps dropping. Has a trailer
Those old 70's boats are worth almost nothing, they have no value
And you definately don't want a boat with over 4ft of draft, even LESS would be better on the west coast of Florida, is so shallow there. You need to be able to run up to the beach as close as possible.
Winds are usually so light, you don't want a SLUG of a boat with a full keel, will be slow as hell.
AND slip rents have gone off the charts in Florida as I imagine has insurance, if you can even get it, and you NEED IT if you're in a marina. The old days of a $100 slip are long gone, try $400++ per month
Here's tip on boat insurance. Take out liability only. It satisfies the marinas and won't break the bank.
@@johnchance1959 Good luck getting any insurance on a old boat
Your #1 has NO LIFELINES ! She is beautiful but dangerous. Imagine going forward to retrieve a dragging anchor in 2’chop all you have is a 2” toe rail.