In this video at the range I perform a highly scientific (not really) test to determine if finger placement effects the shooters accuracy when shooting a pistol.
I think it matters if you're learning to shoot and/or don't have a foundational grip. Pulling the trigger (because you're not pulling the trigger straight back because your finger is connected to your hand on the side of the grip) can move your placement horizontally. I think you've adapted this with your grip to compensate which is obviously advantageous and again limits or almost eliminates this. I think the practice of shooting and finding that stable grip is more important but to try and see if your trigger finger placement makes a difference until you find your working formula that allows you the most accuracy. Additionally (not saying I disagree with your decision to shoot at 15 feet) the spread would double at 30 feet and have a more discernable difference to learn from to correct .
Good stuff, I agree, new shooters and those with little training, finger placement could have a significant role while they learn other handling principles. Distance as well could be a factor, further out could definitely show more deviation from center. I'll probably do another video on this after I get some more feedback to perform a more scientific test.
@@citizenpewThank you. I appreciate your video and all your time, monies and efforts in creating this video. I'd be curious as to the most important fundamentals that correlate to accuracy. Maybe showing how choosing the correct firearm that fits in your hand, proper first and support hand placement which totally negates finger placement and stance, I think proving those grip fundamentals are what really matter if that's what your testing shows. That would aviod your viewers not going down an unnecessary rabbit hole of listening to many just to be more lost. Either way, appreciate what your doing and your videos.
Grip is definitely important, and worthy of a video for sure. I know many who won't shoot certain firearms because the grip just doesn't fit right in their hand, and I have just the variety to demonstrate that!! Appreciate the feedback, I'm always looking for ideas on content outside of just demonstrating a new firearm I picked up.
I'm just a recreation shooter so I'd be the last one to ask but I appreciate your information and making the video. But, I want to say this: I was at a gun store 2 weeks ago and I was ready to purchase a new handgun because my Glock 19 doesn't shoot well for me. And the person behind the counter said it could be your trigger position rather than needing a new gun.
Trigger position is kind of a catch all "try this" problem solver in my opinion. Does it matter, yes, is it unique to all shooters, also yes. The idea these days is ideal handling, if you have a solid grip, good secondary hand support, and proper stance the trigger finger position is mostly irrelevant. That all said, it assumes the shooter has a firearm in which they can achieve a comfortable finger position with the trigger while applying handling principles. Regarding Glocks, they're not known for their universal ergonomics, I know people who shoot well with anything but a Glock. You try a different brand of an equivalent size to your G19, if you have a range that rents or a friend with something it would give you an idea if it's you or the firearm design. I buy and sell a lot and personally I prefer a number of firearms over Glock. Glocks are functionally reliable, but if the ergonomics aren't right for you it might not be your best choice. Long winded reply, but just some thoughts to consider. Thanks for watching.
@@citizenpew you're right because when I grab my wife's Smith and Wesson m&p. It shoots much better for me. Maybe it's time for me to give up the Glock. 😆
lol, just a heads up, it's tough to give up the Glock. If you have a number of Glock mags you might look into BUL Armory's AXE, the compact version uses G19 mags and the full size uses G17 mags. They look nice and the ergonomics is night and day compared to the Glock. I did a video on both the compact and full size, and I'm looking at getting the optics cut model as well. The base models (non-optics ready) run a little over $400 bucks, so easy on the pocket book too.
I think it matters if you're learning to shoot and/or don't have a foundational grip. Pulling the trigger (because you're not pulling the trigger straight back because your finger is connected to your hand on the side of the grip) can move your placement horizontally. I think you've adapted this with your grip to compensate which is obviously advantageous and again limits or almost eliminates this. I think the practice of shooting and finding that stable grip is more important but to try and see if your trigger finger placement makes a difference until you find your working formula that allows you the most accuracy. Additionally (not saying I disagree with your decision to shoot at 15 feet) the spread would double at 30 feet and have a more discernable difference to learn from to correct .
Good stuff, I agree, new shooters and those with little training, finger placement could have a significant role while they learn other handling principles.
Distance as well could be a factor, further out could definitely show more deviation from center.
I'll probably do another video on this after I get some more feedback to perform a more scientific test.
@@citizenpewThank you. I appreciate your video and all your time, monies and efforts in creating this video. I'd be curious as to the most important fundamentals that correlate to accuracy. Maybe showing how choosing the correct firearm that fits in your hand, proper first and support hand placement which totally negates finger placement and stance, I think proving those grip fundamentals are what really matter if that's what your testing shows. That would aviod your viewers not going down an unnecessary rabbit hole of listening to many just to be more lost. Either way, appreciate what your doing and your videos.
Grip is definitely important, and worthy of a video for sure. I know many who won't shoot certain firearms because the grip just doesn't fit right in their hand, and I have just the variety to demonstrate that!!
Appreciate the feedback, I'm always looking for ideas on content outside of just demonstrating a new firearm I picked up.
Try that at 25 yds and you’ll see it matters
Distance variations will definitely be in part two of the highly scientific testing.
I'm just a recreation shooter so I'd be the last one to ask but I appreciate your information and making the video.
But, I want to say this:
I was at a gun store 2 weeks ago and I was ready to purchase a new handgun because my Glock 19 doesn't shoot well for me. And the person behind the counter said it could be your trigger position rather than needing a new gun.
Trigger position is kind of a catch all "try this" problem solver in my opinion. Does it matter, yes, is it unique to all shooters, also yes. The idea these days is ideal handling, if you have a solid grip, good secondary hand support, and proper stance the trigger finger position is mostly irrelevant.
That all said, it assumes the shooter has a firearm in which they can achieve a comfortable finger position with the trigger while applying handling principles.
Regarding Glocks, they're not known for their universal ergonomics, I know people who shoot well with anything but a Glock. You try a different brand of an equivalent size to your G19, if you have a range that rents or a friend with something it would give you an idea if it's you or the firearm design.
I buy and sell a lot and personally I prefer a number of firearms over Glock. Glocks are functionally reliable, but if the ergonomics aren't right for you it might not be your best choice.
Long winded reply, but just some thoughts to consider. Thanks for watching.
@@citizenpew you're right because when I grab my wife's Smith and Wesson m&p. It shoots much better for me. Maybe it's time for me to give up the Glock. 😆
lol, just a heads up, it's tough to give up the Glock. If you have a number of Glock mags you might look into BUL Armory's AXE, the compact version uses G19 mags and the full size uses G17 mags. They look nice and the ergonomics is night and day compared to the Glock. I did a video on both the compact and full size, and I'm looking at getting the optics cut model as well. The base models (non-optics ready) run a little over $400 bucks, so easy on the pocket book too.