People are talking as if this is an actual M1 Carbine chambered in 9mm. It's a completely different action. It's a straight blowback action, not a gas tappet system like the M1. I'd say it's a "tribute" more than a replica.
"tribute" is probably the more accurate term. Using 9mm does allow for a blow back design but it's very different from a gas system. I'll have to check the video again, I thought I mentioned it was a blow back design. Good comment, thanks.
I own an M1 Carbine, and I don't begrudge anyone who would want a popular caliber in one. It has occurred to me that a Carbine reconfigured for more popular cartrages would be a good thing. I imagined 10mm instead of 9mm, though, to better match the action length. There should be no plastic parts. That's a deal breaker for me, but I'd even accept MEM parts if that was an option. M1 Carbines are fun to shoot and surprisingly light for a wood and metal gun.
The plastic is a small disappointment despite it being of high quality, and chambered in 10mm using Glock mags would also work with my collection. Maybe Chiappa will do a Gen 2.
@@citizenpewGet some Buffalo Bore +P expanders and you've got a pretty formidable hitter. Or, for those with an old schooler in .30 cal., Hornady Critical Defense expanders really make a mess, unlike the old military hole punchers.
I love the m1 carbine, but don't shoot it much these days with the price and availability of ammo to run through it. I'd love a modern cartridge update and 10mm is a great idea. As a fun range gun and home defense PCC (only if it passes my reliability tests). The m1-9 is a great concept. Hopefully they'll expand upon the idea with other common and somewhat affordable cartridges. Edit: I wonder how one chambered in 5.7x28 would perform. 🤔
I had a 22 cal. M1 carbine replica from marlin I believe and I am so sorry I didn't keep all my guns as I had 22 representations of the M1 carbine and the AR-15 back in the eighties.
I got one of these when they first came out. Thought it was a great idea. I was shooting Winchester 115gr white box the first day at the range. During shooting the third box and it would not fire. I looked down and the bolt had broken in half. I could see the firing pin. I sent it back for repair. They fixed it. I sold it when I got it back. Hopefully they have improved.
I had a surplus M1 carbine back in the 70's and loved it. No recoil to speak of, accurate within its ballistic limitations, light weight and could handle most weather conditions fairly well.
@@bradlozano2571 the absence of perceived recoil and a true lack of recoil are not one and the same. If the recoil can be measured, it exists regardless of if it is felt or not Plus most people are not that big strong guy who doesn’t notice that level of recoil, so for most people it wouldn’t even be an accurate statement for perceived recoil
@@bradlozano2571 It’s not reality, it’s your perception of reality, not reality itself :) Also congrats on being so strong that you can’t even perceive the recoil I suppose. Although I suspect you too would notice it if you tried to notice it, haha
I got my M1 carbine a "1944 Inland" the day i turned 18 in 1988 for get this $124.74 LOL my first rifle and the last one i will ever sell they are so much fun!
You pronounced it correctly, sir! Congratulations on being in the top 1% of Americans trying to pronounce Italian names, LOL. (chiappa = key-op-pah) - in Italian, having an “h” follow a “c” makes the “c” hard, like in “archive” and “i” is pronounced “eee.” Fiocchi = “fee-oak-eee.” Bravo! Ti salute! Ciao!
I appreciate the appreciation! When someone of the native language tells me I'm pronouncing something wrong, I feel it's important to correct myself, especially when they respectively inform me of my error.
Then he went and spoiled it by calling it " a M1 carbine replica" instead of " an M1 carbine ....." This is a weird trend that I'm hearing all the time now. Eg , a apple, a ant, a axe etc.
So you called the plants, keya plants. No it is Chea pets and the pronunciation of the firearm is Cheopa. Look on the side of the firearm It says Dayton, Ohio so it goes with the US way of saying it.
I got the 30 carbine and honestly love it so much. The good magazines are pretty accessible. The ammo was more difficult, but I was able to find 1000 for around $500. I would love to put my hands on that 9mm carbine!
Well the bayonet lug cam be swapped out for a real m1 carbine bayonet lug. I actually converted a usgi m1 carbine stock to fit this well. So it looks more like a carbine. Love the carbine so much.
You said it right, I only know because my grandparents were from Castlevetrano Sicily, I've got an old M1 carbine that I keep handy but ammo is expensive, I'll have to check one of these out.
9MM is a good option considering the supply chain issues with ammo. Back during the pandemic I went into my local sporting goods warehouse looking for some .38 special rounds...nothing in stock. This is a rather large warehouse too. Come to find out all they had in stock was .22LR, .223 and 9MM. Not even 00 buckshot. So no matter how bad things get I think you can always count on getting your hands on some 9MM. By the way, I made the switch from .38 to 9MM after seeing the writing on the wall. Nice rifle, thanks for sharing.
Half the times I go to my gun stores and still can’t find 00 buck, only option now is online, luckily psa sells the spicy spicy black aces for a good price
.45 Long Colt is hard to find as will and expensive when you get it. I'm paying that no more. I have been buying it before Biden came in office. What a D**k.
Kind of a neat little carbine. One thing not mentioned is that the way it looks it will fly under the radar of the gun grabbers. I have an old mini 14 and no one even pays any attention to it since it is not an evil black gun.
I like the Mini-14 too, but you don't see much chatter even about the M-14 (M1A) from the grabbers either. Or the Garand for that matter. Both WAY more powerful than any "Assault" rifle.
@@cyrusfreeman9972 Pretty sure I am realistic about that. but I am one layer below their radar compared to the tacticool crowd. But... yeah.. I got a few of the guns they are trying to ban right now. My comment holds true for this time.
@@doranmaxwell1755 Just don't get complacent...That said, modern aluminum and plastic is great for sure effectiveness, but nothing ever has the pure sex appeal of Steel and Walnut
Love the look! It would be a nice addition to my 30 carbine and far cheaper to shoot. Depending on the ammo I find, the 30 carbine ammo this year has been seventy - a buck+ a round depending on who made it and who sold it.
I have a M1 Carbine. Ammo for Remington Soft Points is going for $85.00 a box of 50 rds. FMJ's are about $60.00 a box. I do like the idea of a 9mm carbine. Be better iffin it used Glock mags though. Thanks for the video.
Where are you buying your ammo? A quick google search brings up several places selling 30 carbine for $30-$35 for 50rd boxes with Remington going for $40.99.
I bought an M1 carbine, 40 or so years ago, like new paid $200 ... and I love it. Recently all the talk about AR-15's I bought one, plus 1000 rds, (back when I got 1000 loose rounds for $175.). I fired two mags of .223 through my AR, and hated it. Maybe used to the M1 carbine ... I thought the AR would be as fun, and it wasn't. In fact, I bought a single shot bolt action in .223, just so that I would have a manner in which to use up some of that ammo. Might as well, hang the AR on a wall, I will never shoot it, unless SHTF, and I run out of .30 cal ammo for the M1. The plastic parts kind of scared me off the Chiappa ... got a fun, and super accurate Hi-point 9mm carbine ... that I love ... gonna have to think about investing in a chiappa.
Was it a universal or was it a inland ? And have you ever heard of a universal on commando mock six? It looks just like the thompson only It's pressed Metal and the charging arm handle is on the left hands side in .45 auto?
@@MaxBeline-vc4fg it is an inland M1 carbine. Never heard of a commando mock six, but sounds interesting. Even though not practical, and a little out of my budget I still want a Thompson ... but alas, I am a 1911 guy ... I own 7 in 4 different calibers.
@@orionbennett776proper name is Volunteer Enterprises Commando Mk VI. I , well my father lol, owned one in the early 80's. They are floating around and are fairly decent.
@@MaxBeline-vc4fgI have a Universal early serial number built with all surplus G.I. Parts has bayonet lug have never had a malfunction would not sell it, the later models had lots of problems,started making their parts no more surplus.
That little guy looks like a blast! I have a 30 carbine M-1 (with 20 & 30 round mags), but I don't shoot it because ammo is too hard/expensive to find. Who knows, maybe some day that'll change. Good looking rifle, you got there.
Hard to find? And expensive? 50 rounds are like $40 bucks and can be found a lot of places. That said, I have a stockpile of both commercial and Milsurp in both regular and Tracer rounds.
I inherited a nice Winchester 1942 M1 carbine a few weeks ago. It’s a nice gun, but I have to admit I’m a little jealous of your M1-9 carbine, Pew! I’ll definitely shoot and enjoy the M1 carbine, but I’ll always feel like I have to preserve and pass it on to my family. With the M1-9, I’d feel more comfortable about throwing the rifle in a vehicle and not worrying about a scratch or a ding. Cheers!
Back I 1979, I bought a Military M-1 9 mm stock clip and 30 clip Like the 1 your using, I paid 100 dollars in mint condition shot it for 3 years and sold it to a gun shop, He paid me 1400, for it, But it was special , A Machinist converted to fully auto/and semi. My first wife did not like guns, so I sold all of them , But not My Beretta 9mm .That is a Great Rifle .
Got one when it first came out. Finicky with ammo accuracy wise but not function wise. Chintzy plastic sights. Highly reliable. I am a Beretta fanboy so the match was made like you said, it's a fun gun, could be home dee-fense.
I haven't had any issues yet, knock on wood, but I've only had it to the range three times now and have only used Fiocchi, Blazer, and Federal ammo; but mostly Fiocchi.
They've been out for 5 or 6 years or so, I'd hope they fixed any issues by now. I agree it does suck that the bolt can't be locked back, other than that it's been a fun rifle so far.
The Ruger PC Carbine is nice but it's heavy for what it is, I've had the original and now the tactical version, I was hoping it would be a good carbine option but the weight makes it impractical in my opinion. If you want a classic look this may be worth looking into, I've been working a lot with the TNW Aero Survival Rifle lately, it's pretty solid.
@@NukeCult666 I have run both ball and hollow point , although the bulk is just ball ammo and the hollow points I have used are ones with a smaller opening . I generally don't buy expensive or what I call fancy ammo , I have even run lead reloaded ammo in it with no problem . Because it is recoil operated it has a heavy charge spring so it may not work with light loads as well .
Just another 9mm but one I might consider. If it came in the superior .38 Super or .40S&W I'd be all over one. And yes, I'm very aware of how difficult it is to find .38 Super ammo and, in some areas, the same can be said about .40S&W.
A 600-dollar (from Rural King) 9mm looks really fun, about half the price of the 30 cal and you have mags that fit your Chippa pew pew, sounds like a win-win to me.
First time watching your channel, really liked your presentation/attitude stuff. Looks like a fun carbine thingy, hard to complain about 9mm, or Chiappa. A replica/tribute is perfect for me because I have enough museum pieces in my regular hunting "quiver".
Thank you for this review. I have been looking at this little guy for awhile now. I believe the plastic barrel band can be replaced with a barrel band from an actual m1 carbine(may require some shimming). The reproduction ones are readily available and not very expensive. You can get the type 1 which does not have the bayonet lug-seems more appropriate since you probably don't want to mount a bayonet. Again, thanks for the review.
Bought a Chiappa M1-9 for Steel Challenge matches when I couldn't find a Beretta Cx4 carbine. I was wary of using it for competition because of the reputation it has for jamming. The first weekend I had it, I went to a Steel Challenge match and it ran flawlessly shooting Federal Syntech 150gr. I'd have to see how well it holds up in the long run before I'd ever recommend it, but it did better than I expected and was very fun to shoot.
NICE! I haven't had an issue with mine yet, but only a few boxes of ammo in so far. The CX4's were hard to come by for awhile, I'd been trying to get one for some time before I finally did.
If you wanted to, you could probably replace the plastic barrel band with a GI style metal one. Numrich has some reproduction Type 3's with the bayonet lug for $20.
I think this Chiappa is great. I would love to have the M1 Carbine in 9mm. I have a 1943 production Saginaw Gear, and was just looking at ammo online last night. Looks like Good FMJ or soft point is available for about 60¢ to 65¢ per round, which is not bad, all things considered. KCI makes serviceable magazines, both 15 and 30 rd., that can be found CHEAP.
I'm interested in it cause it's 9mm and so far easy to find. I know it's not gas operated like the original but I have a mini 14 and if I could only have one rifle it would be a Ruger mini 14
M1 Carbines are cool. I've been blessed to be in the right place at the right time-twice. Scored an original IBM for free from a friend of the family and then years later scored a National Postal Meter AND a pre-war Colt Woodsman for $200 from my friend.
I haven't seen any information that it is able to handle +P, I know some competition shooters and that's all they use is +P, but I don't know if any are using this rifle for any events. If they are I'll definitely ask what they are using through it.
Nice! I have a ruger 9mm carbine made in the 90's that takes several interchangeable magazines, it was the sister rifle to the ruger p95? Pistol for law enforcement. I love that carbine. Actually Im pretty sure they only made around 10 thousand of them.
Like it. I’m curious about accuracy. I like the idea of having a rifle that can shoot well out to 150 yards or so but not as likely send a stray bullet all the way to the neighbors. One reason I like the traditional 30 cal is they are not so common. If someone air mails a bullet to a neighbor, I can show it wasn’t me because I’m using a 30 carbine, not a 223, ect.
Out to 100 yards 9mm is already dropping a good bit depending on ammo, I don't know if 9mm could make 150 yards reliably. Be an interesting test to do at the range.
I already have a WWII M1 Carbine, a post war Universal M1 Carbine, a Universal Enforcer which is just an M1 Carbine pistol, a Ruger Blackhawk 30 Carbine and a Marlin Model 62 lever action in 30 Carbine. So I desperately don't need one of these, but I don't think I can live without one.
I too had one of those Universal M1 Carbines, mostly assembled from unused military parts which were of first class steel. The top rear of the frame was stamped "Universal" but stamped "Iver Johnson" underneath the rear sight! It was completely reliable and accurate too. I later bought a whole sealed ammo can of 1946 surplus ammo---after fifty years every single cartridge fired perfectly, in spite of half of them being illegally drilled with crude, deep hollowpoints!.........................elsullo
I had to get one too! I got a real WW2 - Korean War bring back for $185 in1987. Then the ammo started to cost. Dollar a shot? I set it aside. Then came the one on 9mm! I bought it instantly! I took my “real” one and hid it at Mom’s house and walked right in with my 9mm! No complaints from the wife. It looks beautiful either way it’s lovely stock. Hard hitting with 9mm, easy to get ammo. No 22 here. You can hunt with this or defend your home. Please tell me … it seems “ammo sensitive” and it will stove pipe at times. So, what ammo is best for this neat little toy!
I've had mine since 2018, never had a single malfunction, I only use Berreta mags and high grain ammo. I read a lot of reviews about it before I bought it and most of them complained about it jamming, they were using non Berreta magazines and low grain ammo. It's a great little rifle ,just keep it clean and oiled up.
Never heard of a Plainfield in 9mm. I had a Plainfield .30 Carb bought new in the mid 70's and that was a 100% GI compatible copy. They also made a small auto pistol or two. Later the company was bought out by Iver Johnson and quality hit the skids.
I just looked up the Extar, and you might see this in a video down the line, lol. I just picked up a couple firearms so I'll have to let the gun fund build back up, but this is getting put at the top of the list. Thanks!
Have an Auto Ordinace M 1 Carbine 30 cal and reload for it... the ammo specs have to be followed very closely for it to function consistently, butt great fun to shoot and reload...!!
I own a Chiappa M1-9 just like the one you have in this video and I love mine. I bought it as an alternative for my terrible working Universal M1 Carbine I bought back in 2009. I always wanted an M1 Carbine and being younger and naive then, I didn't really do any research on the notoriety of the Universal M1 Carbine and honestly, it's one of the worst investments I've ever made by far on a firearm. I'd be lucky to get off two shots and the carbine would jam. Even took it to a gunsmith and after spending more money the rifle still couldn't make it through a whole magazine without something going wrong. I watched other TH-cam videos on the Chiappa M1-9 Carbine and regardless of some of the negativity said about it, I decided to buy myself a Chiappa anyway because I figured it couldn't be any worse than the Universal M1. Had trouble with the ten round magazines that came with the Chiappa at first but fortunately I had a couple used military surplus M92 magazines I'd bought earlier for my Girsan Regard and each of those worked perfectly in the Chiappa without any problems. The Chiappa M1-9 is by no means a perfect rifle, but it's a damn good one and far more reliable than a Universal M1 in my opinion. You didn't make a bad choice at all with your purchase.
@@gravelydon7072 I wish I could say I was as fortunate with mine. I do like the feel and firing of my Universal M1, but that's only when I'm able to get off a few rounds at a time without a failure to feed occurring. I still have it and I guess I could try taking it to a different gunsmith to try and get it working reliably. It just definitely wouldn't be the first firearm I'd pick up in a time of need unless it was all I had.
I like the idea of a 9mm M1 Carbine. Need to get rid of the plastic parts. Would consider it for home defense. The M1 Carbine weighs next to nothing and is very compact. When it comes t the originals, the 30 Carbine mags are easy t come by. Good quality mags from South Korea are cheap. Ammo is the hard part. Not always available.
I owned two Carbines. Dont remember if I had....one magazine that actually worked. I like the gun so much if...reliable mags ever appear I would still...try to find one and buy again.
Neat little carbine but 2 things here to make it for 10mm the reciever would need to be enlarge as 10 mm is bigger in diameter and is longer in length and not sure if a 10mm blowback action would hold up to long term use.
That would be cool if it does. I'll have to check with a couple of my FFL's on that, one does a lot of work with older firearms and I bet he'd know. If I find anything out I'll let you know.
"Kee-AH-pah". I never even realized I was pronouncing it wrong. I picked up one of these rifles used as I had never seen one before, but the idea of the fun shooting M1 carbine in the cheap to shoot 9mm round appealed to me! I didn't even know until I got home and looked it up that it uses military standard Beretta M9 mags. SWEET! I have a Rock-Ola and a Winchester GI M1 carbine as well, but even through the CMP the ammo for those isn't anywhere near as affordable as 9mm, and I don't really want to send thousands of rounds through those. Might buy a new production Auto Ordinance M1 carbine as some point that I won't worry about breaking, just like the Chiappa.
I wish someone would make an M1 Carbine style stock for the Mini14. I have one for my Ruger10/22, and it has the feel and looks of an M1-30 cal but the charging handle gives it away. The Mini14 is pretty close to the M1 -30 in operation.
The best time to buy magazines or ammo is when local gun stores have inventory sales. If you go to gun shows, local gun shops sell it cheap just to cut down on their inventory.
I had an old Universal M1. It was fun, but, mine was worn out. It was cheap. Fairly accurate, ammo was hard to find at the time. That was 40 years ago.
Ideally, it would use original type 1 or type III bands. Type, has no bayonet lug, and would be great in any state. I would prefer the lock to that of the useless plastic lug. 9mm is half the cost of .30 carbine, so that's a big plus. I definitely like the wood stock. As to the M1 Garand, they can still be had for under a thousand from the Civilian Marksmanship Program. Due to ammo prices, especially for .30-06, you should consider their 7.62 NATO option. As to accessories, you really only meed a few enblocks , they'll last forever, and a sling.
Kurt Panzer Meyer carried a M1 carbine in the later part of his war in France a lot of Germans carried them in squad vehicles half tracks motorcycle with side cars tanks. even sten guns were carried because of how compact they were
The Storm, I have it optimized for close range defense. I'm sure someone could do something similar with this, but it would need something to accommodate a flashlight.
MSRP is right at $725 but you can get them just under $600 if you catch a deal. I ordered mine through my FFL and was out the door just over $600 with tax and background. I believe the polymer version is around $100 less.
It’s a shame that there were never more 30 carbine firearms back in the day. The AR-10 getting scaled down to 30 carbine probably would have been more reasonably adopted than the .222 version.
There WERE millions made, but most ended up being sold cheap to foreign allies in Asia and Europe to warehouse to "fight commienism." Some have been sold BACK to American surplus dealers for huge profits. Lots are still warehoused by US Govt agencies for "civil unrest."...............................elsullo
I have been reaching the handiness of PC Carbines for years’ this model would need to be upgraded to an actual steel bayo lug mount and replace the plastic parts with original steel ones’ they make great handi weapons that lay down a lot of gtfom Medicine down range’ great for urban type house to house fighting and the added oomph from the longer barrel gives the 9mm some nice performance’ light and accurate firepower for survival
Every American should have a PCC of some sort and a side arm in the same caliber. That would be an example of being "well-regulated" as specified in the second amendment.
I haven't read anywhere yet that it can handle +P or anything other than standard ammo. I know a number of Steel Challenge shooters, and that would be a deal breaker if considering this for such an event.
@@citizenpew I just find myself wondering about that barrel length with standard pistol ammo. Is there a point where burn rate has slowed or stopped completely and friction is slowing the bullet down?. Do you have a chrono?
Sorry I missed your reply, I don't have a chrono myself, I have a buddy who does if I ever need to test some ammo; but regarding barrel length, I've read a few studies regarding rifle ammunition and the most effective barrel length, I'll have to look if anyone did a study on pistol ammo, it'd be interesting to know if nothing else.
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People are talking as if this is an actual M1 Carbine chambered in 9mm. It's a completely different action. It's a straight blowback action, not a gas tappet system like the M1. I'd say it's a "tribute" more than a replica.
"tribute" is probably the more accurate term. Using 9mm does allow for a blow back design but it's very different from a gas system. I'll have to check the video again, I thought I mentioned it was a blow back design. Good comment, thanks.
I haven't seen a video where everyone doesn't say this gun sucks jams upon jams stove pipes so does it actually work
Gas piston, not tappet.
@@markr.1984 the m1 carbine uses a gas tappet system buddyy
Correct
I own an M1 Carbine, and I don't begrudge anyone who would want a popular caliber in one. It has occurred to me that a Carbine reconfigured for more popular cartrages would be a good thing. I imagined 10mm instead of 9mm, though, to better match the action length. There should be no plastic parts. That's a deal breaker for me, but I'd even accept MEM parts if that was an option. M1 Carbines are fun to shoot and surprisingly light for a wood and metal gun.
The plastic is a small disappointment despite it being of high quality, and chambered in 10mm using Glock mags would also work with my collection. Maybe Chiappa will do a Gen 2.
@@citizenpewGet some Buffalo Bore +P expanders and you've got a pretty formidable hitter. Or, for those with an old schooler in .30 cal., Hornady Critical Defense expanders really make a mess, unlike the old military hole punchers.
I love the m1 carbine, but don't shoot it much these days with the price and availability of ammo to run through it. I'd love a modern cartridge update and 10mm is a great idea. As a fun range gun and home defense PCC (only if it passes my reliability tests).
The m1-9 is a great concept. Hopefully they'll expand upon the idea with other common and somewhat affordable cartridges.
Edit: I wonder how one chambered in 5.7x28 would perform. 🤔
Good point.
I had a 22 cal. M1 carbine replica from marlin I believe and I am so sorry I didn't keep all my guns as I had 22 representations of the M1 carbine and the AR-15 back in the eighties.
I got one of these when they first came out. Thought it was a great idea. I was shooting Winchester 115gr white box the first day at the range. During shooting the third box and it would not fire. I looked down and the bolt had broken in half. I could see the firing pin. I sent it back for repair. They fixed it. I sold it when I got it back. Hopefully they have improved.
I had a surplus M1 carbine back in the 70's and loved it. No recoil to speak of, accurate within its ballistic limitations, light weight and could handle most weather conditions fairly well.
It has the recoil comparable to a 410 shot shell or a 223, not no recoil. It’s light recoil, but not none
@@flightlesschicken7769Perception..If a tough strong man says it has no recoil?....Then its no recoil to HIM...
@@bradlozano2571 the absence of perceived recoil and a true lack of recoil are not one and the same. If the recoil can be measured, it exists regardless of if it is felt or not
Plus most people are not that big strong guy who doesn’t notice that level of recoil, so for most people it wouldn’t even be an accurate statement for perceived recoil
@@flightlesschicken7769 Perceiption is Everything!....And am sorry us strong tough guys are few....But thats reality....
@@bradlozano2571 It’s not reality, it’s your perception of reality, not reality itself :)
Also congrats on being so strong that you can’t even perceive the recoil I suppose. Although I suspect you too would notice it if you tried to notice it, haha
I got my M1 carbine a "1944 Inland" the day i turned 18 in 1988 for get this $124.74 LOL my first rifle and the last one i will ever sell they are so much fun!
Nice! We'll never see those prices again unfortunately.
So how much did you pay for it? Hello!
You pronounced it correctly, sir! Congratulations on being in the top 1% of Americans trying to pronounce Italian names, LOL. (chiappa = key-op-pah) - in Italian, having an “h” follow a “c” makes the “c” hard, like in “archive” and “i” is pronounced “eee.” Fiocchi = “fee-oak-eee.” Bravo! Ti salute! Ciao!
I appreciate the appreciation! When someone of the native language tells me I'm pronouncing something wrong, I feel it's important to correct myself, especially when they respectively inform me of my error.
Then he went and spoiled it by calling it " a M1 carbine replica" instead of " an M1 carbine ....." This is a weird trend that I'm hearing all the time now. Eg , a apple, a ant, a axe etc.
So you called the plants, keya plants. No it is Chea pets and the pronunciation of the firearm is Cheopa. Look on the side of the firearm It says Dayton, Ohio so it goes with the US way of saying it.
kee - aa - puh Sicilian for "stone slab"
I got the 30 carbine and honestly love it so much. The good magazines are pretty accessible. The ammo was more difficult, but I was able to find 1000 for around $500. I would love to put my hands on that 9mm carbine!
make your own
@@JR-lg7fdbubbaing an M1 Carbine into 9mm is not a very good idea
@@flightlesschicken7769 very bad idea actually 😂
I think he meant the ammo, not the gun lol @flightlesschicken7769
That's a great little PCC. I'm definitely going to take a closer look at this firearm. Not crazy about the plastic, but we'll see. Thanks for posting.
Despite the plastic it's pretty neat, definitely worth looking into. Thanks for watching!
Well the bayonet lug cam be swapped out for a real m1 carbine bayonet lug. I actually converted a usgi m1 carbine stock to fit this well. So it looks more like a carbine. Love the carbine so much.
You said it right, I only know because my grandparents were from Castlevetrano Sicily, I've got an old M1 carbine that I keep handy but ammo is expensive, I'll have to check one of these out.
Thanks for confirming the pronunciation; I bought mine with no previous handling of one, it was kind of a gamble, but I'm happy with it so far.
@@citizenpewdo they have this in 40 or 45 acp. Would love to see a 45gap carbine or a 10mm😃
No, there is only 9mm and a 22lr from what I can tell.
9MM is a good option considering the supply chain issues with ammo. Back during the pandemic I went into my local sporting goods warehouse looking for some .38 special rounds...nothing in stock. This is a rather large warehouse too. Come to find out all they had in stock was .22LR, .223 and 9MM. Not even 00 buckshot. So no matter how bad things get I think you can always count on getting your hands on some 9MM. By the way, I made the switch from .38 to 9MM after seeing the writing on the wall. Nice rifle, thanks for sharing.
I did just for that reason 👍
Half the times I go to my gun stores and still can’t find 00 buck, only option now is online, luckily psa sells the spicy spicy black aces for a good price
@popupheadlights well your not alone 3/4 of my ammo purchases come from gun broker just for that reason.
What was the price
.45 Long Colt is hard to find as will and expensive when you get it. I'm paying that no more. I have been buying it before Biden came in office. What a D**k.
Kind of a neat little carbine. One thing not mentioned is that the way it looks it will fly under the radar of the gun grabbers. I have an old mini 14 and no one even pays any attention to it since it is not an evil black gun.
Why would they? It's just a big pistol.
I like the Mini-14 too, but you don't see much chatter even about the M-14 (M1A) from the grabbers either. Or the Garand for that matter. Both WAY more powerful than any "Assault" rifle.
You are delusional if you think they won't come for it.
@@cyrusfreeman9972 Pretty sure I am realistic about that. but I am one layer below their radar compared to the tacticool crowd. But... yeah.. I got a few of the guns they are trying to ban right now. My comment holds true for this time.
@@doranmaxwell1755 Just don't get complacent...That said, modern aluminum and plastic is great for sure effectiveness, but nothing ever has the pure sex appeal of Steel and Walnut
Great video! With gratitude from Florida:)
Glad you enjoyed it!
They may be stamped 10 round mags but the fact that it comes with 2 of them is frankly, amazing.
Cool looking piece! I love the carbine look, length, seems it shoots nice!
Love the look! It would be a nice addition to my 30 carbine and far cheaper to shoot. Depending on the ammo I find, the 30 carbine ammo this year has been seventy - a buck+ a round depending on who made it and who sold it.
Dang that gets expensive, one day when I'm rich I'll have an original, but until then this is a nice affordable option IMO.
@@citizenpew yeah, 9mm is sommuch cheaper to shoot. I've got a TNW Aero carbine in 9mm I enjoy shooting
I have a M1 Carbine. Ammo for Remington Soft Points is going for $85.00 a box of 50 rds. FMJ's are about $60.00 a box. I do like the idea of a 9mm carbine. Be better iffin it used Glock mags though. Thanks for the video.
Geez. It's $32 a box of 50 in Georgia.
Where are you buying your ammo? A quick google search brings up several places selling 30 carbine for $30-$35 for 50rd boxes with Remington going for $40.99.
Probably worst place. Gun Show. But no stores in my area had any.
It takes Beretta mags also.... whatever round count they happen to be.
Order online then unless you are a slave in a communist state such as CA. Midway has it for 72 cents a round.
I bought an M1 carbine, 40 or so years ago, like new paid $200 ... and I love it. Recently all the talk about AR-15's I bought one, plus 1000 rds, (back when I got 1000 loose rounds for $175.). I fired two mags of .223 through my AR, and hated it. Maybe used to the M1 carbine ... I thought the AR would be as fun, and it wasn't. In fact, I bought a single shot bolt action in .223, just so that I would have a manner in which to use up some of that ammo. Might as well, hang the AR on a wall, I will never shoot it, unless SHTF, and I run out of .30 cal ammo for the M1. The plastic parts kind of scared me off the Chiappa ... got a fun, and super accurate Hi-point 9mm carbine ... that I love ... gonna have to think about investing in a chiappa.
Was it a universal or was it a inland ? And have you ever heard of a universal on commando mock six? It looks just like the thompson only It's pressed Metal and the charging arm handle is on the left hands side in .45 auto?
@@MaxBeline-vc4fg it is an inland M1 carbine. Never heard of a commando mock six, but sounds interesting. Even though not practical, and a little out of my budget I still want a Thompson ... but alas, I am a 1911 guy ... I own 7 in 4 different calibers.
@@orionbennett776proper name is Volunteer Enterprises Commando Mk VI. I , well my father lol, owned one in the early 80's. They are floating around and are fairly decent.
@@MaxBeline-vc4fgI have a Universal early serial number built with all surplus G.I. Parts has bayonet lug have never had a malfunction would not sell it, the later models had lots of problems,started making their parts no more surplus.
You ca. pick up metal parts from an actual M1 and replace the plastic, it's a fun project and easy to take apart
I have an old inland and I love it . They shoot great . I need to stock up on mags for it because I only have two
Ammo is 74 cents a round at midway usa. Surplus mags were 14 dollars a piece.
That little guy looks like a blast!
I have a 30 carbine M-1 (with 20 & 30 round mags), but I don't shoot it because ammo is too hard/expensive to find. Who knows, maybe some day that'll change. Good looking rifle, you got there.
Hard to find? And expensive? 50 rounds are like $40 bucks and can be found a lot of places. That said, I have a stockpile of both commercial and Milsurp in both regular and Tracer rounds.
I inherited a nice Winchester 1942 M1 carbine a few weeks ago. It’s a nice gun, but I have to admit I’m a little jealous of your M1-9 carbine, Pew! I’ll definitely shoot and enjoy the M1 carbine, but I’ll always feel like I have to preserve and pass it on to my family. With the M1-9, I’d feel more comfortable about throwing the rifle in a vehicle and not worrying about a scratch or a ding. Cheers!
Back I 1979, I bought a Military M-1 9 mm stock clip and 30 clip Like the 1 your using, I paid 100 dollars in mint condition shot it for 3 years and sold it to a gun shop, He paid me 1400, for it, But it was special , A Machinist converted to fully auto/and semi. My first wife did not like guns, so I sold all of them , But not My Beretta 9mm .That is a Great Rifle .
Should've got rid of the wife.
@@tedwright1380 I did to Late, LOL
Very nice rifle! Always liked the thirty carabine !
Tempting, but I am also looking at the Henry Homesteader.
I'd like to get a Henry Homesteader as well, it's on the list, lol. Be a good comparison video.
Got one when it first came out. Finicky with ammo accuracy wise but not function wise. Chintzy plastic sights. Highly reliable. I am a Beretta fanboy so the match
was made like you said, it's a fun gun, could be home dee-fense.
You can interchangeable sights with original carbine, bayonet lug too.
Looks nice & neat and fun to shoot too .... Thanks for Sharing !
I own one, paid $400. Great deal. Some plastic on it, rear sights and bayonet lug. But these are interchangeable with original GI carbine.
Reviews I've seen say this gun jams frequently. Saw it for myself. Picky on ammo and mags too.
I haven't had any issues yet, knock on wood, but I've only had it to the range three times now and have only used Fiocchi, Blazer, and Federal ammo; but mostly Fiocchi.
Those are the old models. Newer models don't have a problem. Only thing I hate is no bolt hold back which sucks for cleaning but I just use a bracket.
They've been out for 5 or 6 years or so, I'd hope they fixed any issues by now. I agree it does suck that the bolt can't be locked back, other than that it's been a fun rifle so far.
These got a lot of bad reviews , but i have had mine for a few years now and it has run flawlessly.
99 satisfied customers won't complain.
1 dissatisfied customer will quit his job to have More time to complain... ☆
Good to know 👍 cycle with hollow point ammo ok ? I was considering a ruger PC but this style has more appeal to me.
The Ruger PC Carbine is nice but it's heavy for what it is, I've had the original and now the tactical version, I was hoping it would be a good carbine option but the weight makes it impractical in my opinion. If you want a classic look this may be worth looking into, I've been working a lot with the TNW Aero Survival Rifle lately, it's pretty solid.
@@NukeCult666 I have run both ball and hollow point , although the bulk is just ball ammo and the hollow points I have used are ones with a smaller opening . I generally don't buy expensive or what I call fancy ammo , I have even run lead reloaded ammo in it with no problem . Because it is recoil operated it has a heavy charge spring so it may not work with light loads as well .
@@donpegar2645 thx for the reply👍
That it works doubles the cool value 😎. Enjoy this, man.
Just another 9mm but one I might consider. If it came in the superior .38 Super or .40S&W I'd be all over one. And yes, I'm very aware of how difficult it is to find .38 Super ammo and, in some areas, the same can be said about .40S&W.
A 600-dollar (from Rural King) 9mm looks really fun, about half the price of the 30 cal and you have mags that fit your Chippa pew pew, sounds like a win-win to me.
First time watching your channel, really liked your presentation/attitude stuff. Looks like a fun carbine thingy, hard to complain about 9mm, or Chiappa. A replica/tribute is perfect for me because I have enough museum pieces in my regular hunting "quiver".
Thanks for watching!!
Thank you for this review. I have been looking at this little guy for awhile now. I believe the plastic barrel band can be replaced with a barrel band from an actual m1 carbine(may require some shimming). The reproduction ones are readily available and not very expensive. You can get the type 1 which does not have the bayonet lug-seems more appropriate since you probably don't want to mount a bayonet. Again, thanks for the review.
I love the M1 carbines, short, lite, cool, good power, but I don’t want to pay a kings ransom, lol! This a good option!
Bought a Chiappa M1-9 for Steel Challenge matches when I couldn't find a Beretta Cx4 carbine.
I was wary of using it for competition because of the reputation it has for jamming. The first weekend I had it, I went to a Steel Challenge match and it ran flawlessly shooting Federal Syntech 150gr.
I'd have to see how well it holds up in the long run before I'd ever recommend it, but it did better than I expected and was very fun to shoot.
NICE! I haven't had an issue with mine yet, but only a few boxes of ammo in so far. The CX4's were hard to come by for awhile, I'd been trying to get one for some time before I finally did.
Ya gotta watch that 30 round dump on slow speed it’s cool
Awesome gun, awesome commentary.
I have the .22LR version. Nite little rifle. Just wish the rear sights were metal and not plastic.
Been sayin it for years, chee-oppa, like the sound of it. You're the 1st I've seen demo one, been thinking about getting one. Thanks.
I bet a step drill could re-freedom those mags, a lil tape if you don't want a giant hole for trash to get into them, and presto!
lol, that it would. If I didn't own a number of Beretta mags already I probably would have already taken these into surgery.
Wouldn't you need a new spring
Thanks for the review - enjoyed the vid. Wish they'd have chosen Glock mags... but they are an Italian company so...
If you wanted to, you could probably replace the plastic barrel band with a GI style metal one. Numrich has some reproduction Type 3's with the bayonet lug for $20.
Nice! I'll have to look into those, thanks.
I think this Chiappa is great. I would love to have the M1 Carbine in 9mm. I have a 1943 production Saginaw Gear, and was just looking at ammo online last night. Looks like Good FMJ or soft point is available for about 60¢ to 65¢ per round, which is not bad, all things considered. KCI makes serviceable magazines, both 15 and 30 rd., that can be found CHEAP.
I'm interested in it cause it's 9mm and so far easy to find. I know it's not gas operated like the original but I have a mini 14 and if I could only have one rifle it would be a Ruger mini 14
have one and love it broke it in proper no ammo issues fairly accurate makes a good home defense for me and critter control thanks
M1 Carbines are cool. I've been blessed to be in the right place at the right time-twice. Scored an original IBM for free from a friend of the family and then years later scored a National Postal Meter AND a pre-war Colt Woodsman for $200 from my friend.
I'd like to see how it would perform with the Hornady 147gn boat tails.
👍🏻👍🏻Yes im sold on it this carbine. I ll be looking into that gem. What about +P ammo good to go ??
I haven't seen any information that it is able to handle +P, I know some competition shooters and that's all they use is +P, but I don't know if any are using this rifle for any events. If they are I'll definitely ask what they are using through it.
Looks cool and for most of us we don’t care how you pronounce it cuz we know what you’re talking about.
Key-ah-puh
I have a M1 and quite a bit of ammo that I’ve had since before things got expensive and in short supply….
It doesn't take Glock mags, A definite deal breaker!
Yeah, that's a bummer I agree, if I hadn't had two Beretta firearms with compatible mags already I may not have considered this.
Ruger PC9 then.
@@DangerClose13EI have an original Ruger Police Carbine 9, only takes Ruger mags, like those on my P-95. Great little carbine.
Nice! I have a ruger 9mm carbine made in the 90's that takes several interchangeable magazines, it was the sister rifle to the ruger p95? Pistol for law enforcement. I love that carbine. Actually Im pretty sure they only made around 10 thousand of them.
And NOBODY will sell theirs!..............................elsullo
Like it. I’m curious about accuracy. I like the idea of having a rifle that can shoot well out to 150 yards or so but not as likely send a stray bullet all the way to the neighbors. One reason I like the traditional 30 cal is they are not so common. If someone air mails a bullet to a neighbor, I can show it wasn’t me because I’m using a 30 carbine, not a 223, ect.
Out to 100 yards 9mm is already dropping a good bit depending on ammo, I don't know if 9mm could make 150 yards reliably. Be an interesting test to do at the range.
...the bolt on the original (30 carbine) doesn't lock back on the last round either...
That would make sense then, they may have been trying to stay true to the functionality as best they can.
I already have a WWII M1 Carbine, a post war Universal M1 Carbine, a Universal Enforcer which is just an M1 Carbine pistol, a Ruger Blackhawk 30 Carbine and a Marlin Model 62 lever action in 30 Carbine. So I desperately don't need one of these, but I don't think I can live without one.
"but I don't have this one," lol, that's the burden we bear being firearm enthusiasts.
I too had one of those Universal M1 Carbines, mostly assembled from unused military parts which were of first class steel. The top rear of the frame was stamped "Universal" but stamped "Iver Johnson" underneath the rear sight! It was completely reliable and accurate too. I later bought a whole sealed ammo can of 1946 surplus ammo---after fifty years every single cartridge fired perfectly, in spite of half of them being illegally drilled with crude, deep hollowpoints!.........................elsullo
@@elsullo2 Why were they illegal? NJ maybe?
I have one with an original side mount for a six power scope in 30 caliber. Also the ruger pistol in 30 carbine
I had to get one too! I got a real WW2 - Korean War bring back for $185 in1987. Then the ammo started to cost. Dollar a shot? I set it aside. Then came the one on 9mm! I bought it instantly! I took my “real” one and hid it at Mom’s house and walked right in with my 9mm! No complaints from the wife. It looks beautiful either way it’s lovely stock. Hard hitting with 9mm, easy to get ammo. No 22 here. You can hunt with this or defend your home. Please tell me … it seems “ammo sensitive” and it will stove pipe at times. So, what ammo is best for this neat little toy!
I've had good luck with the Fiocchi range ammo I used in the video, other than that I've cycled some Federal through too, it cycled fine as well.
I've had mine since 2018, never had a single malfunction, I only use Berreta mags and high grain ammo. I read a lot of reviews about it before I bought it and most of them complained about it jamming, they were using non Berreta magazines and low grain ammo. It's a great little rifle ,just keep it clean and oiled up.
Years ago Plainfield made a batch of 9mm M1 Carbines using Browning Hi Power mags
Never heard of a Plainfield in 9mm. I had a Plainfield .30 Carb bought new in the mid 70's and that was a 100% GI compatible copy. They also made a small auto pistol or two. Later the company was bought out by Iver Johnson and quality hit the skids.
Although this system seems very cool and retro anesthetic. At 400 bones I'd go with the extar . I'd love a review of that piece.
I just looked up the Extar, and you might see this in a video down the line, lol. I just picked up a couple firearms so I'll have to let the gun fund build back up, but this is getting put at the top of the list. Thanks!
Have an Auto Ordinace M 1 Carbine 30 cal and reload for it... the ammo specs have to be followed very closely for it to function consistently, butt great fun to shoot and reload...!!
I own a Chiappa M1-9 just like the one you have in this video and I love mine. I bought it as an alternative for my terrible working Universal M1 Carbine I bought back in 2009. I always wanted an M1 Carbine and being younger and naive then, I didn't really do any research on the notoriety of the Universal M1 Carbine and honestly, it's one of the worst investments I've ever made by far on a firearm. I'd be lucky to get off two shots and the carbine would jam. Even took it to a gunsmith and after spending more money the rifle still couldn't make it through a whole magazine without something going wrong. I watched other TH-cam videos on the Chiappa M1-9 Carbine and regardless of some of the negativity said about it, I decided to buy myself a Chiappa anyway because I figured it couldn't be any worse than the Universal M1. Had trouble with the ten round magazines that came with the Chiappa at first but fortunately I had a couple used military surplus M92 magazines I'd bought earlier for my Girsan Regard and each of those worked perfectly in the Chiappa without any problems. The Chiappa M1-9 is by no means a perfect rifle, but it's a damn good one and far more reliable than a Universal M1 in my opinion. You didn't make a bad choice at all with your purchase.
funny, I have no problems with my Universal M1 although it has no where near the quality of the military ones I own.
@@gravelydon7072 I wish I could say I was as fortunate with mine. I do like the feel and firing of my Universal M1, but that's only when I'm able to get off a few rounds at a time without a failure to feed occurring. I still have it and I guess I could try taking it to a different gunsmith to try and get it working reliably. It just definitely wouldn't be the first firearm I'd pick up in a time of need unless it was all I had.
I like the idea of a 9mm M1 Carbine. Need to get rid of the plastic parts. Would consider it for home defense. The M1 Carbine weighs next to nothing and is very compact.
When it comes t the originals, the 30 Carbine mags are easy t come by. Good quality mags from South Korea are cheap. Ammo is the hard part. Not always available.
I agree the plastic parts need to go, it's not cheap plastic, but it's still plastic, and this thing deserves more than plastic.
I owned two Carbines. Dont remember if I had....one magazine that actually worked. I like the gun so much if...reliable mags ever appear I would still...try to find one and buy again.
Neat little carbine but 2 things here to make it for 10mm the reciever would need to be enlarge as 10 mm is bigger in diameter and is longer in length and not sure if a 10mm blowback action would hold up to long term use.
I wonder what these are running now? Love to have one.
I'm curious if metal m1 hardware (barrel band, bayonet lug, etc) can be swapped out for the plastic?
That would be cool if it does. I'll have to check with a couple of my FFL's on that, one does a lot of work with older firearms and I bet he'd know. If I find anything out I'll let you know.
"Kee-AH-pah". I never even realized I was pronouncing it wrong. I picked up one of these rifles used as I had never seen one before, but the idea of the fun shooting M1 carbine in the cheap to shoot 9mm round appealed to me! I didn't even know until I got home and looked it up that it uses military standard Beretta M9 mags. SWEET!
I have a Rock-Ola and a Winchester GI M1 carbine as well, but even through the CMP the ammo for those isn't anywhere near as affordable as 9mm, and I don't really want to send thousands of rounds through those. Might buy a new production Auto Ordinance M1 carbine as some point that I won't worry about breaking, just like the Chiappa.
Is that the same company that makes the rhino 357 pistol
Yep
And very nice lever action rifles without that lawyer import worthless top of bolt safety switch
I wish someone would make an M1 Carbine style stock for the Mini14. I have one for my Ruger10/22, and it has the feel and looks of an M1-30 cal but the charging handle gives it away. The Mini14 is pretty close to the M1 -30 in operation.
That looks like a fun plinker!
If you want a Garand look up the CMP. It's a little bit of a hassle compared to straight retail but it's definitely worth the trouble.
The best time to buy magazines or ammo is when local gun stores have inventory sales. If you go to gun shows, local gun shops sell it cheap just to cut down on their inventory.
darn it, now i got to have one.....
I think it’s cool and as long as you like it, that’s all that counts
I wonder if you can put it in a paratrooper stock without modifying the stock.
Check out their website, I believe they have one.
Also, glad you got this video in before the 18th.
I had an old Universal M1. It was fun, but, mine was worn out. It was cheap. Fairly accurate, ammo was hard to find at the time. That was 40 years ago.
Shortly after I sold it I found an Automag III.
Ideally, it would use original type 1 or type III bands. Type, has no bayonet lug, and would be great in any state. I would prefer the lock to that of the useless plastic lug.
9mm is half the cost of .30 carbine, so that's a big plus. I definitely like the wood stock.
As to the M1 Garand, they can still be had for under a thousand from the Civilian Marksmanship Program.
Due to ammo prices, especially for .30-06, you should consider their 7.62 NATO option. As to accessories, you really only meed a few enblocks , they'll last forever, and a sling.
Kurt Panzer Meyer carried a M1 carbine in the later part of his war in France a lot of Germans carried them in squad vehicles half tracks motorcycle with side cars tanks. even sten guns were carried because of how compact they were
If you needed a quick defense carbine would you grab the Storm or this M1-9? Why?
The Storm, I have it optimized for close range defense. I'm sure someone could do something similar with this, but it would need something to accommodate a flashlight.
Stationed in Italy for six years, (79-85, USAF). It’s pronounced Key-ahp-paw.
Cool gun! How much ?
thanks for posting this is exactly what i need to buy before they raise the tax another 11% in California in July
The original ones had poor function so I’m glad it’s working with the beretta maga
This is a great rifle 👌👌👌👌👍👍👍
Looks like a sweet 9mm carbine. Everybody talks about glock mags yada yada but real men own Berettas!
I got one in 22lr. It's a fun plinking gun. However, mines are made of plastic and black.
Maybe I missed it, what was the ball park price?
MSRP is right at $725 but you can get them just under $600 if you catch a deal. I ordered mine through my FFL and was out the door just over $600 with tax and background. I believe the polymer version is around $100 less.
It’s a shame that there were never more 30 carbine firearms back in the day. The AR-10 getting scaled down to 30 carbine probably would have been more reasonably adopted than the .222 version.
There WERE millions made, but most ended up being sold cheap to foreign allies in Asia and Europe to warehouse to "fight commienism." Some have been sold BACK to American surplus dealers for huge profits. Lots are still warehoused by US Govt agencies for "civil unrest."...............................elsullo
Good looking "house gun"!
I have been reaching the handiness of PC Carbines for years’ this model would need to be upgraded to an actual steel bayo lug mount and replace the plastic parts with original steel ones’ they make great handi weapons that lay down a lot of gtfom
Medicine down range’ great for urban type house to house fighting and the added oomph from the longer barrel gives the 9mm some nice performance’ light and accurate firepower for survival
Every American should have a PCC of some sort and a side arm in the same caliber. That would be an example of being "well-regulated" as specified in the second amendment.
A solid combination!
I wonder if the synthetic stock is made from " Croswood " ?
...'CH' has a hard sound in Italian...''CI' has the soft, 'CH' sound (as in 'ciao')
The "Chi" spoken "K" is ok. You could stress the double P a little more but overall very good pronunciation 🙂
Yeah the garands you automatically got dump the money into a gas port insert so you can shoot modern ammo through it without bending the op rod
i did the same thin yes its kee appa your right
Will that handle +P+ or SMG ammo?
I haven't read anywhere yet that it can handle +P or anything other than standard ammo. I know a number of Steel Challenge shooters, and that would be a deal breaker if considering this for such an event.
@@citizenpew I just find myself wondering about that barrel length with standard pistol ammo. Is there a point where burn rate has slowed or stopped completely and friction is slowing the bullet down?.
Do you have a chrono?
Sorry I missed your reply, I don't have a chrono myself, I have a buddy who does if I ever need to test some ammo; but regarding barrel length, I've read a few studies regarding rifle ammunition and the most effective barrel length, I'll have to look if anyone did a study on pistol ammo, it'd be interesting to know if nothing else.
Underfolder stock would be so cool on that.
It sure would!!
Nice gun