Truth be told it's only thanks to Meat, Flash Gitz, and Oney Plays that I even know about other content creators. I think most content creators are garbage who have nothing to add unless they produce actual content that's completely new at least once in a while.
The only type of video/content I’ve ever seen from him is when he was building his PC, and that was because LTT was taking jabs at him for being so …. well, to put it nicely: stupid lol. It was so hard to watch. Not only was he so hard to understand with his constant yelling and rambling, but bless his heart, he was incredibly ignorant of the most basic tasks. It was like watching a rich kid on Christmas that got all this expensive, top of the line stuff, and just staring at it all piled up in the floor because they didn’t actually want or need any of it as what they already had was perfectly fine. The dude just bought whatever was the most expensive because randoms in chat said to and equated it to being the best lol.
Dude talks like if old Bob Dylan got cloned with drunk Lil Yachty then someone sprinkled generic cinnamon toast crunch and Adderall on the spawn before incubating it all in a cement mixer full of bricks.
CoryxKenshin is a great example of a good reaction channel. He reached out to me personally for permission to feature my animation on his channel and provided proper credit. I'm so glad that larger creators are addressing the issue of content theft because it really harms and discourages smaller content creators especially when TH-cam favours content "Curation" over content creation.
Baz(isnotreal) too!! He does very well with showcasing weird/horror/etc content and still being entertaining. He reaches out to people and is makes sure credit is given where it's due. Also as someone who can't sit through horror by myself (due to anxiety), I like good react channels like Cory and Baz lmao
There are plenty of good reaction channels out there but most of them are terrible. I saw Meat Canyon's Gutterball on ImStillDontai the other day and he basically sits through the entire video eating Doritos and gets over 240K views. There is so much content being curated at the expense of hard-working original creator's these days, it makes me sick.
Your XQC animation makes a lot more sense after having watched this video. It has let me enjoy the animation a lot more, and it was good without any context at all.
Agreed. The man is a genius. Even when he reacted to XQC’s reaction, he used satire by barely reacting at all - just to shine a light on how parasitic this kind of content is.
I stopped watching xQc when he was watching an alt right TH-camr named moon. Moon stole someone’s script for his video and got away with ti. Moon also needs to be criticized more.
XQC knows exactly what he's doing. He acts like it's no big deal and people shouldn't care. He knows. He's just so big he doesn't have to stop. He doesn't have to give a fuck. It's so fucked up.
I think he genuinely doesn't understand (or subconsciously chooses to not understand idk) how he affects smaller creators by doing this he clearly isn't very bright + being ultra rich and almost never leaving your house all have horrible effects on understanding the situations of others
I get it...the whole "Shh shh it's ok, it's just fine...just breathe" as he stabs somebody in the back trying to act like they're the one's overreacting as all the people watch him publicly murder a dude. Abusing peoples trust for him to make himself invulnerable. lol..
The only content this happens to is quality content, yet people don’t understand how crappy it is to not get credit. ESPECIALLY when I had no money and everyone says I’m complaining for calling them out
When I still has Tiktok your channel was one I saw reuploaded a million times getting millions of views. It felt dirty to watch anyone's content that wasn't uploaded by them.
@@wanderingwisp4542content ripping has just gotten worse and worse, its impossible for one person to claim everything people are re uploading or using, kinda the whole reason youtube has an automated bot system that’s supposed to prevent this. crazy to blame the original creators for this lol
@@nello1591Stuff like that is always a gray area until they start making money from it. The least they could do is give credit and a shoutout to whoever made it. The people who don't even do that and crop out the persons name from the video are so scummy.
Bro got a 100 million dollar deal making more than LeBron James I legitimately doubt xqc actually cares about making money he could retire right now and be set for life.
@@ZaWRLDdo you not understand. They have so much money that they don't view it as a thing anymore and have no issue taking it off of others because in their mind "it's chump change they don't need it"
@@kavalogueok but my problem with this is we don't actually know how much he made he could've made like 15 bucks or he could've made like 200 bucks the only one who knows is xqc also Hunter says that he doesn't care about money but monetizes the video but the problem with that is if Lemmino did try to copyright claim the video he wouldn't be making any money either meaning no one wins.
Notice how XQC's immediate reaction to criticism is to start flinging insults and just in general act super childish about it? Like seriously, it shows so much about the type of person he is and exactly what his problem is
It’s so frustrating how TH-cam has a content ID system that automatically demonitizes people for using two seconds of a copyrighted song while react streamers can reupload full unedited content without penalty. Really shows whose interests they have in mind behind the scenes.
@@dragons_red Wasn’t there this 30k subs TH-camr who watched entire episodes of anime and TH-cam defended her? TH-cam’s “morals” fluctuate constantly. It almost would’ve been better if money = power because at least their rules would be consistent.
@@thecasualsperspective I think the issue is that it's just lazy content, xqc sits there like a deer in headlights staring at the screen and says nothing lol
Seriously, Lemmino is one of the highest quality content creators on this platform. Every video he releases is thoroughly researched - with citations - and beautifully produced. It makes me angry to see someone rip him off like xQc did.
Honestly. Now guys like Mr Terry and Vlogging Through History, those guys are great. They pause the videos and give a greater historical context for us. Even when they stop for the "wow factor", they'll add something like "keep in mind, this was normal for the time" or "put yourself in their shoes" to really nail home the point
@j-wilk4835 late reply I know, but vlogging through history reuploads others people content, no matter what he adds it's still not fair use. Darkviper au and legal Eagle cover fair use well.
This was EXTREMELY embarrassing for xQc. He sounds like such an immature, ignorant little child. He's wrong about so much, and he immediately goes into attack mode instead of just having a civil conversation. He comes out looking ridiculously silly
Lmao no. The dude is literally just watching a video and people are choosing to watch him watch it. That's it. This has been the case since videos on the internet even existed.
@@sorrow_Sambut at least a lot of other react channels try to express their reactions and talk about stuff, he just... Stares at stuff... If he's not gonna say anything or talk about stuff in a way that people understand, then he should just watch it on his own.
@@faintduch6630It does not matter at all. If you ask for permission to react to something and they give you permission, it does not matter. X asks for permission, and people have even asked him to stop reacting to them, which he did. X is completely willing to pay people for reacting, shout them out, etc.
@@sorrow_Samit’s always been that way is not a good argument for anything. Doesn’t mean it’s ok to steal the content of others. This is just a new way for employers to not pay people for their work and profit from the labour of others
@@markharrison6498 You know you don't need to bring politics into everything. There is no proof that reacting is harming anyone and if it is harming anyone, youtube has provided resources to stop it. Sorry but just because asmongold doesn't react to a video doesn't mean now I'll go watch it on my own, that's just not how that works. The best part is youtubers complaining about react streamers then a) taking no action and b) making videos to farm views. What a bunch of bullshit.
@@tehjamerz Hardly. It adds a lot of dynamic to the video than just a boring static camera. This isn't a reaction, let's play, or some financial tips course. This is a dynamic conversation in which the speaker feels very passionate about the subject. If you like static cams, then that's just you I guess.
@@jaydonbrown617 I also never said I "like static cams" I like how you've painted a picture of what you think I am, yet all you've done is paint a picture of yourself
It's crazy how some people will actually sit down and spend hours at a time just to watch some random French guy that sounds like Borat having a mental breakdown
But I like him though, he's funny. When you say this stuff, it shows that you're engaged in the drama to hate on xqc, and not because you care about the actual issue
@@sumicmusic I mean, you can say the same thing about people who like him? People defend him not because he's right but "because I like him." He made a fool of himself on Twitter and was talking in circles and playground insults, while also addressing absolutely nothing. If you can't see that then you don't see the situation objectively either.
@@sumicmusic no, I don't really like most streamers tbh, I respect their determination of being able to not go crazy sitting in a room all day but imo watching anyone stream for hours is a waist of time
Sometimes i found someone who i enjoy watching their reaction or comments especially if they know of the topic and share some good thoughts Like Max on fighting game or the ER doctor.
TH-cam honestly needs to add a “reference” feature for uploads. It would be very easy to prorate the payout to multiple creators based on unique content
It would be nice, but TH-cam will never do that. They don’t care about unique content, they care about big content creators with millions of subs, even if those creators just react to other content.
It's been proven that isn't really effective, Jinx would do that. It's better to shout them out and let their personal ads play, along with promotion of other works. But even then, its understandable TH-cam creators would want a say in how their work is reacted to. It's not unreasonable to seek permission unless it's an exception like you are critiquing a vid or it's low effort like another react.
The weirdest thing to me is that there is no way XQC is articulate enough to come up with those tweets himself in under a week, they have to be ghostwritten in some way.
@@fileextensionThat and XQC clearly plays it up on his streams. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a slob and a total buffoon in reality, but he’s not as dumb as he portrays himself.
Its not just that xQc is completely unoriginal, it's also the fact that even his reactions are the equivalent of watching paint dry. He's completely unintelligible, and thats WHEN he actually talks. Most times he's just sitting there completely blanked out like a Keanu stare. It's just mind boggling to me that he's the number one streamer currently. At least with react TH-camrs, you get to see someone maybe discover an old piece of music to see if they have the same sense of wonderment you did. xQc can't even do that much.
And it it is crazy how one of the two camps(streamers) can make a blue collar wage in a month, while youtubers, whom actually care about their content, get fucked by, both the algo + the system
xQc is for people who can’t stand when someone is speaking so slow. If you watch him more, I’m 100% sure you’ll understand him more. He just gets straight to the point instead of dragging on.. sort of like an ADHD fun fair. Also, he isn’t just a reactor. He’s an entertainer, and so he entertains his audience. It’s funny ngl
Not even that. I feel like react TH-camrs have adapted in a way where they feel compelled to add something to the thing they are reacting to, be it anecdotes from their personal lives and experiences or having someone else to play off of, essentially creating a soft podcast. React streamers do not do this.
@@cinnilen Obviously they don't but that doesn't matter. You can't justify content theft or theft in general by saying "well they really don't need it"
xqc didn't "make" the video. He watched the video live, and his editor uploaded it to his channel. xQc has explicit permission from lemmino to do this, as well
@@sumicmusicExplicit Permission??? Why on earth would LEMMINO give XQC of all people permission to essentially re-upload his 1.5 hour long video? XQC is easily the worst reaction streamer on the entire platform, for someone who got famous off of rambling nonsense for multiple hours straight he can't seem to find any words while watching the video.
@@KarpetBurnright he doesn’t say or even have a reaction most of the time he’s either getting up checking his phone going to the bathroom and doing something else entirely. He just lets the video player for the audience which is stealing peoples work
10:17 To be fair xQc is the dude who thought a prairie dog was a lobster and calls cheetahs “cheeto”. To him, any word with more than 2 syllables is a big word.
I find it really funny xqc spend the whole time he's "reacting" to a video being absolutely silent but as soon as someone critiques him he suddenly has so much to say
I remember Mystery Science Theatre 3000 had issues when they used to distribute their content. The premise of MST3000 was that it was basically a react channel watching crappy movies and commenting over it, and their solution was that they just distributed audio that *YOU* had to sync with the movie as you watched it (and presumably paid for it separately). TH-cam could pretty easily automate a system like this for creators, that would allow react channels to link the original content and allow creators to set how they want playback framed for two feeds so that it credits the original channel and gives them revenue. TH-cam could even allow this to become nested more deeply than one-level of playback since reactions to reactions are apparently a thing these days.
For those out there who aren't familiar: MTS3K and Rifftrax put SO much work into what they do. The MST3K movies are just that: actual movies. Rifftrax does both. They offer syncable audio for movies that would be considered "block busters" or very "Hollywood". Pretty much anything they riff that has really good production value and money behind it (something you can usually find being streamed somewhere) will be sold as audio only: you only pay about 3 bucks for it and then sync it to the movie. THANK YOU for mentioning them, they don't get enough love. I think it's funny when I see a TH-camr reacting to a movie like "Birdemic" when Rifftrax did it years ago with actual writers, legit comedy, and great timing.
@@MM-jf1me there’s no real tech limitation there, embedding one video feed as an overlay on another isn’t a big deal. That said, there’s probably a number of legal and logistical hurdles to clear in making this feasible, and doing nothing is always easier than doing something (especially if you haven’t even had the idea of what to do).
To put into perspective how bad react streaming messes with the algorithm, I have yet to be recommended Lemmino's video despite being subscribed to the channel and XQCs reaction has been pushed on me multiple times even though I have never watched anything from him. I learned about the Lemmino video from that reaction and all this drama.
Whenever I get the notification, I say, to myself, "Oh joy! Papa has returned from market to tell us of the goings-on of the Towne!" In a Victorian child voice bc I feel like that's the appropriate response.
i think they are a sign of the times. younger people are lonelier than ever, and get more of their social interactions online. A Para-social relationship with a streamer can meet the need of meaning, community and social interaction for a while or at least try to.
Hold I would not consider this para-social at all. People See someone they watch and are like "huh I wonder what they say about this". From the Data I have seen the amount of people that watch the reactor have very little overlap with the people that would watch the original video.
@@birdz3676What you are describing is EXACTLY parasocial. People don't watch the content, they watch people. They only want the face, the commentary, the mere prescence of their favorite streamer and don't care about the content itself. Honestly this stuff makes me real sad, it's a LOT of very misguided kids and some f'd up adults that only want a depressing mockery of social life and defend these lazy parasites SO HARD. Real sad stuff.
@@MrAlquimista666 parasocial is not that I can watch a video of a youtuber I like reacting to something without it being parasocial. It becomes parasocial when you start to think you are friends with that streamer or think you have a deep relationship with them but they don't know you.
A PERFECT example of great reaction content is The Charismatic Voice. She reacts to music, but brings her professional singing career and experience to the table to help dive into and understand the techniques and sounds used by different singers. It's fantastic content!
She also does things like spectrum analysis on parts of the song, and she sometimes interviews and/or jams a camera down the throat of the singers she analyzes. On top of all that, watching one of her videos would be a horrible replacement for watching the music video uninterrupted, so her videos only stand to boost the performance of the originals.
Same with Chris from Vlogging Through History. He adds tons of context to the historical videos he reacts to, especially videos about the US Civil War and WW1.
It’s crazy how this has been an issue on the internet for more than a decade. Around 7 years ago, react channels on YT were getting ridiculed for their laziness and the genre kind of died off as a result. Now the same exact problem is lingering on Twitch, but it’s accepted by even bigger audiences. There isn’t really a solution, unless copyright laws changed which would create even more problems.
copyright laws already cover this, the problem is that they expect smaller actual content creators to bring it to court, some rich asshole who doesn't even live on the same continent, as they're starting to brigade and harrass you with their zombie fanboys.
Back then the face camera in the corner magically protected you from copyright pretty much 99% of the time but in these last few years I think its been less effective as I’ve seen small reaction channels voicing complaints and even dealing with mass copyright takedowns of dozens of videos. But anyways nothing has changed since 2017. Reaction channels aren’t transformative and liking the reactor for their personality or rizz or whatever doesn’t count
I honestly feel like YT and twitch are different cultures. Twitch isn't just about watching someone but also interacting with them, YT is background noise, time-killer, something to do when you're looking for something to do or how to do something. React channels would thrive on twitch cause you're reacting WITH a guy reacting and talking to them about the reaction.
Really cool of Meat to take a firm stance against lazy reaction content, especially the big fish like XQC. He acts like such a petulant child here. In spite of their lack of integrity, I think these channels need to be encouraged to grow, and make their own, unique content.
xQc responded extremely poorly to mutahars claims, and I really think he could've done better like he has in the past. But the reason he didn't, and I know I'm defending him like a parasocial loser right now, but I really want you to try to see it the way I do, and have an actual discussion about this instead of fighting. xQc's life is falling apart right now, and recently he's been lashing out at his friends, which he's openly talked about and called it lashing out, so no presuming there. I think it's a safe assumption to say that with all this sudden drama, xqc responded poorly because of all of this, since in the past he's usually able to handle drama much better.
The word NPC is used a lot. But if someone is always chatting in a stream, watching these types of streams specifically, doing NOTHING else just fully engaged, that is the pure definition of NPC
imo, they've always had the term wrong. Sure, an NPC in a video game has no agency - but - neither do the _playable_ characters. And those things only do what the player *controlling* them commands them to do. Imo, the characters you play as are more akin to twhat the internet decided an : NPC : is. you actually can't change an NPC's path, it's just gonna do what it's programmed to do and that's it.
Off topic but npc is used so often it has kinda lost all its weight and punch tbh. It got picked up by so many people to the point it’s feels like it’s lost its meaning. I get what u mean tho.
He’s very clearly panicking and on the defensive cause he’s built a life based around this, and doesn’t want to go back to having to try and make content organically
@@robosing225 nah not necessarily sponsors, just the ad revenue he would get from uploading the react videos back to youtube, in terms of revenue to actual effort required its probably the easiest he’s ever had to work. Would be a lot more work to fill those hours in with other content
i dont really like XCC but built a life based on this? kind of an unfair assessment. is a large portion of his stream reacts? yeah but he's still be the number one streamer on twitch playing chess or whatever
We do not get a lot of TH-camrs who fight for the smaller channels. Its really nice to see that someone cares enough to help better media platforms. Hunter is elite.
@@Bradburns sure, a simple reaction is fine, but just freebooting the content and uploading to your channel is shitty. Editing it down to the specific content reaction is the better and more ethical thing to do.
@@Bradburns not everyone believes the dogma of "any publicity is good publicity" some people want to be acknowledged for their work, not cuz they saw it from someone else.
@@isaac.azk2 i wanted to make a joke saying something like "ok send me your paypal information" but i'm worried that i'd be taken seriously and banned from commenting on the channel or reported or something so just take this explanation of not saying a joke that includes said joke as the joke 👍👍👍👍👍👎👎👍👍
TH-cam should implement a system where you can make a react category video or collab video and it has a way to add the original creator as a partial owner of the video. That way it can split the money 50/50 between the 2. Then it could benefit the original creator much much more and stop robbing them of money as often. Then it would just be a matter of making a “approve reaction/collab” area for a creator to be able to approve the other channel using their video. They could make it so that like only 150k+ subscribers have the option to apply for reaction approval to stop drowning in requests. Idk they have so much money and a huge platform, you’d think they could easily start beta testing a system like this for the bigger react channels
On one hand that’s the obvious solution but now you’ve created a strong incentive for scammy creators to encourage reacts to infinity - that’s self referential and will boost shitty content
Now I really want to see a Meatcanyon cartoon of XQC being a human parasite off the internet. Long creepy fingers, and tubes of money going into his back end.
HELL YEAH! That is totally something Meatcanyon would make a video of. Love the creative details too. Hope Hunter sees your comment, and is inspired to make something along those lines.
Preach Papa. These types of people are just lazy and not creative. Sadly, life is just unfair and bigger people profit all the time off the little guy. It’s always gonna happen cuz people will continue to let it happen
This is it. It happens because people let it happen. Just like with onlyfans and simps. Like, I like looking at hot girls just like everyone, but I ain't gonna PAY them, further degrading my self than I already am by watching it in the first place. Girls like the one from Dr. Phil, when she hit 18 she made like 50 million dollars because of how desperate the simp army was. Like bros, you are THAT down bad? Granted, a girl making an onlyfans doesn't bother me. She tryina make a living too. Plus, it's her original work. To me, react content is lazier than showing your vajayjay because at least you putting something out there someone else is willing to buy. Versus making no effort other than maybe giving an opinion, something literally everyone does, but monetize and make revenue of someone else's hard work. xqc acts like he doesn't care because he's filthy rich and probably doesn't need to make money off react videos anymore. That still doesn't address the real problem of not splitting the money you generated between the original creator and him. Super scummy as our boy says.
@@robosing225 Agree, im a guy and i like girls, but i aint gonna pay for it, the boundaries are staying right where i want em Im quite ashamed tbh, cus i see this simping behaviour irl too, my sis is very manipulative, and the guys just follow in her footsteps, doing shit she does just so my sis likes them Its quite depressing how people put their own unique character aside for some pussy, even when the connection isnt even genuine they do stay for a while, until its enough And this shit is just so sad to see, xqc can easily say: I dont care and i dont do it for monetization, but why if he doesnt care, doesnt he give some of the revenue to the creators? Action speaks louder than words, and if he doesnt care about money, he should behave accordingly Everyone cares about money in this world, so if you say you dont, i feel like youre lying, or lying to yourself
What was done to Lemino and a lot of other smaller channels is disgusting. Most of them don’t even get shout outs or credits. Don’t just re upload others work for your gain. And then they say they’re giving the smaller channel exposure but rarely that means benefits for the smaller channel.
Lemmino already has a large audience and thousands of dollars a month of patreon, but atleast xQc's editor does link the video and the channel on every react clip from the stream.
Also to mention, only action these channels can take is to do a strike on whoever stole their video, but if they do that to a bigger influencer, the horde of mindless parasocials will dive on them with a lot of hate. It's just fucked up overall, TH-cam really needs more options to deal with these idiotic reaction channels who just take the 100% of the work and reupload it for their own gain.
@@flameguy3416LEMMiNO has uploaded once in the last year. Compared to a react streamer who puts multiple videos up a day. Hundreds of hours worth of work in a single video deserves the views more than someone spending 5% of their brain reacting to it and then moving onto the next thing to react to.
@@SuperZura91this is the reason I have an issue with destiny's dumpster take on this. When the culture finds it taboo or "unbecoming" it's not so easy to just claim someone's content, period. Let alone a larger creator who has more weight to toss around or influence.
This has been a problem for years and I'm glad people are finally addressing it. Lots of content creators, and some viewers, have pointed this out for awhile now. I never watched any of these thieves' videos, but when I found out what they were, I was shocked people actually enjoy watching that garbage. Then again, lots of people like to be told how to "react" to things these days.
I’ve noticed lately when people are wrong online they will be intentionally obtuse about the point, make a deflection/distraction argument, then pretend they are the intellectual superior. It’s so much more embarrassing than taking an L.
@@Erik122_ it seems you dont possess functioning eyes, let me phrase it in a modern context for you "I am become fascist, haver of wrong opinions" - Erik After inventing stupidity
I haven't watched muta since that weird h3 donation shaming thing, is he a react streamer now? I think he was mostly doing dark web reviews at the time and I enjoyed those
@@bradleycontreras4736he said Mutas content isn’t totally unique and I agree 100% as a fan of Mutas also. It’s like preferring one Minecraft TH-camr to another, the difference is that he puts together his own piece and it as a topic may be unoriginal, but it’s an original video he made. Even if you don’t like his stuff, he’s right about what he’s talking about here.
@@rapid9534humiliated how bro? He only said streamers can react to his stuff. He is only 1 creator when Xqc 'reacts' to more than just Dailydose's channel. Some smaller creator has also complained about how they disliked these 'reacts' streamer. Also, you know what else dailydose said? Streamer doesnt have any impact whatsoever to his view counts, so the argument of exposure means jackshit now
I like how Vlogging through History does his reaction content. He makes sure all of the ad revenue from his videos goes to the original creator. Also he has legitimate things to say and expand on when he reacts to history content. In my opinion that should be the model for react content.
@@MM-jf1me that's what he states in pretty much every reaction video. Most creators utilize the Content ID system to claim VTH's videos and retain income that way. A few of the channels even actively encourage him to react to their content.
CoryxKenshin is the best when it comes to asking for permission and he respects if the answer of the content owner says ‘no’, such as the one horror animation, where the content owner said ‘no’ just because it was a non-profit demonetized piece of work and they wanted it to be kept that way. He respected that, despite a lot of people sending him the video to react.
I fully agree. I can't tell you how many times, I looked in the description of a video to find the original content that is being reacted to, and there is no mention. Even if it's not a reaction video, just inspired by someone else's content, or a 1 second clip, I want to see the original. They deserve the credit.
I see people like MatPat on @GTLive turn a 3 minute video into an 1 1/2 hour reaction video because of the additional content/discussion he adds. That is a great example of someone doing it right.
@@kristajones7202 oh, I agree. There are some where he goes over the top, but he does it so much, and has just enough good points/logic to make it tolerable
@@KimberlyPinkney milking a video game or movie trailer? Most of the reaction content on channels that do it right don’t even use another TH-camr’s content, and when they do, they give full credit to it and stop before the “point” of the video is presented to make the reaction viewers watch the original for the final bit.
CoryxKenshin is literally The reason I follow your channels.I was really spooked at first but after seeing the smooth animation in your miniseries with the little gray guy Ive been paying more attention and respect to your videos.
I'm so glad you finally got this off your chest. It always bothered me that when I search up up an animation there's multiple react videos and it's crazy because some of the react video got more views than the actual creator does. The creator pretty much busted his butt for all that, just to get most of the views and revenue taken away by some person in a headset
@@nmoney000"Should downvote those other videos when they pop up so they'll pop up less" I clicked on one video about the news and now i get 85% news. All you'd get by doing this is more reaction content that *actually* impacts your usage of the website.
The fact he doesn’t post full length movies with him silently watching without caring whether or not they get copyright strikes proves that it’s not about “sharing something he enjoys with his audience” and more about stealing content from people or agencies that lack the ability to defend themselves from having their work stolen and redistributed.
You could say the same thing about Charlie's channel moist cr1tical. on his twitch anyway. there are alot of videos he uploads where he speaks on hot topics. thats pretty transformative. but he does it alot too on twitch for sure.
@@robosing225have you seen Asmongold videos? that's how you do reacting content, a 20 minutes video got stretch into one hour video because of him giving his opinion and got sidetracked but still manage to make it transformative
Couldn't agree more man. I hate Tiktok for this reason, I have had to get 5 channels taken down so far for impersonation of myself. TH-cam is better about it, but still happens.
Cory is how I found out about your channel and I’ve loved your content ever since. He does the reaction content right. He’s really helped a lot of channels get more exposure.
There's a clear difference between something like "Expert on subject reacts to and provides *commentary* over *clips* of a larger video" vs the huge number of "react streamers" who just reupload whole videos from other people with nothing added but an occasional "Oh that's crazy"
I never thought about it but very true. It’d be hypocritical of me to say that I hate react content when I subscribe to people like corridor crew and jonathan ferguson’s “firearm expert” videos. However those who regurgitate memes and trending videos, especially without credit, are a plague of this platform
There’s a music reviewer who plays the entire song while he lays on the floor making faces and then says “Well that was good! Let me know what you think!” And that’s the entire video lol
The problem with social media is it's a lot easier to be someone like xQc making money off the backs of other creators than it is to be a content creator putting heaps of effort into your work with no guarantee you'll even be compensated for it, in fact the algorithms on a lot of these sites practically encourage it.
Exactly. I don’t think people would care as much if xQc reacted to some slop channel like a Critikal or Pyro video (I love their stuff, no shade) - but reacting to a video that someone poured their heart and resources into just feels wrong. They worked hard on that, it’s not yours to share.
It's almost the same in the music industry. People who curate popular Spotify playlists often make more money than most artists (the ones not in the mainstream).
@@jacktaylor4655I’m not really in the know, but streaming services are really hard to get money off of unless you have a fanbase right? Cause you need to have a lot of people listening to your music for you to even make any money off of it. I’m not exactly sure how curators make their money, but wouldn’t that do the opposite of what your saying. It boasts their content, and gives them more listeners that in turn earn them more money. So how exactly do they lose out, because unlike TH-cam with react channels they aren’t losing any listeners or anything. So unless I’m missing something it would actually benefit them. Sure the person who does it, can make more money, but is that at the expense of the creators or is that a byproduct of being a popular curator. Because simply making more money, doesn’t make them bad unless again they are somehow screwing the creators over.
I remember being nearly thrown out of a TH-cam & Twitch panel at a convention here in San Antonio because I brought up that reaction videos are some of the lowest forms of content creation on TH-cam. I was told with a lot of aggression that we shouldn’t be able to claim our own content as our property and that Twitch doesn’t value copyright and that it’s what’s holding TH-cam back.
"React content" can be much more valuable than the content reacted to. Political, cultural, historical, theoretical commentaries are very valuable. TH-cam videos are also publicly available. It's kinda crazy you didnt learn anything from "nearly being thrown out of a panel"
@@UmmadikTasYeah, people having a small screen of yourself eating your dinner in the corner is clearly the same thing as a doctor explaining a medical video or a historian giving insight to a historic video. Mental gymnastics 101
Glad these react videos are being put to light. I do watch xqc maybe weekly, but the reaction videos are so soulless and I just hope this trend gets shot down.
I've recently found your channel Mr. Meat, like two months ago or smh but I just want to say that I absolutely love both your animations and this kind of content. I like how honest you are and unfiltered. Feels kinda rare. Lots of love
Sometimes people forget xQc is a guy who became rich and famous from playing videogames and incoherently yelling all day. I don't reckon he's someone who can engage with logic for too long
Papameat/Meatcanyon has a very good reason to not like these types of "creators" if you can even call them that. He works so hard on his art and puts an immense amount of effort into getting those gems uploaded for our enjoyment. Papa is a TRUE creator...in every sense of the word. We love your meat papa!
He gets millions of views per video. He actually has more to gain when people react to his stuff because it gets exposed to people who otherwise may not have known about it and leads them to go watch more of it on his channel. I'm willing to bet that's how a lot of us got here. And I'm an artist myself, but I wouldn't be opposed to people giving my art exposure through reactions. Art is one of those mediums where its common for people to steal from others, get inspired from others, etc. Nothing under the sun is truly original and everything has already been done before so I don't get territorial about art anymore. Does Meat credit all the actors, musicians and tv shows he uses in his cartoons? Hell no. So he's coming off as hypocritical here. Big, well-known content creators who whine about not "getting credit" from react videos come off as greedy and entitled to me.
@@GanbarizerThe nothing is new in art argument is good but doesn't apply here. If you copied a Vermeer and took full credit, congrats to you, as you've shown zero creativity but immense skill (copying is a legitimate talent and a learning technique too). What these reaction vid folk are doing is charging people to watch them look at a Vermeer without explaining what the painting is about or who the artist is, which requires zero skill and zero creativity.
Yep and smaller creators can't do anything about it. People have this idea that it's super easy to take down content that isn't theirs but it's not. Only people making successful claims are big companies with teams of lawyers and most of all money
One of my favorite reactors (he only reacts to History videos) is VTH (Vlogging through History). He is a Historian who reacts to videos and put in his knowledge and opinions throughout the video and always tell people to see the original content first and support them. Just a wholesome person!
There's a few reaction channels that I like including you, they give thw right amount of commentary, generally not bad people, it's those who either don't speak or smoke while reacting, that's not content or really the right use of fair use
xQc actually speaks alot during his reactions, so much so that it's become a meme that he just pauses to spout dumb shit all the time on his channel. Either way, the amount that you pause on something is a thin argument, since the line is hard to find. I think a better argument for what makes a reaction channel ethical is if they have permission, and if their content is negatively affecting the original, which in xqcs case, both are in his favor im pretty sure
I wouldn’t call this channel a “react” channel. It’s more a “commentary” channel because he transforms the content to create a video that is his own style to give comments on a specific topic. Like, when he talks about a movie, he’s not playing the movie in full and showing us his reactions. He’s not sitting there in silence for large parts and going “hah..” to continue sitting in silence some more. No, he’s talking about it, constantly sharing giving his view on scenes, giving details about the story, maybe even shares his own experiences, mentions some behind the scenes information related to the movie, etc. He’s summarizing things while adding his style to it, making it his own video. The types of reaction content that is being talked about takes content that releases/uploads the same day, reacts to it live (in FULL, while skipping sponsors) to rake in donos, adds nothing of value to transform it whatsoever outside of grunting, laughing, and maybe eating as it plays, never links to the original video, then uploads it the same day to take even more viewers from the original. Just pop in to some of the streams and read the chat … the thousands of viewers they have watching them aren’t going to go to the original and rewatch it. In fact, they get mad if the streamer pauses it or laughs, telling them to be quiet and just play it. It’s toxic as hell, takes from original creators, and I’m so glad it’s finally being called out.
Cody ko is a great example of how to react to videos. He has his own audience and his own style of comedy while adding to the content he uses in his reactions
This reminds of old youtube where I watched whole animes and even famous ones which had slightly strict copyright coz the uploader would put a bright colorful artifical frame around each episode to skip copyright.
CoryxKenshin is THE reason I found this channel! Responsible and worthwhile creators are the only people I can respect. Glad I can call myself a fan of both dope creators!
Lemmino is awesome, one of the best creators out there. Thank you for this video, and calling out those who profit off the hard work of others with little to no effort of their own.
i think lemmino would really appreciates this kind of content if they really put specific output regarding the topic, like for example a reaction from a former detective, criminologist, or even former CIA staff
i just looked up lemmino reaction and funny how it's always XQC that starts this shit when moist was reacting to his stuff before and there is even a playlist of it
@@FuhrerHeisenyea but people like charlie so they’re gonna excuse him because he talks slightly more than xqc. although at least he doesn’t upload his reactions himself so he’s automatically better than xqc on that basis alone. he tries to create original content and isnt lazy like x
@@FuhrerHeisencharlie actually makes points and adds to the videos as opposed to x just eating and saying "datz crazy dud". Sounds like you're coping.
xQc takes a near 2 hour video, only adds 15 minutes. Asmon takes a 15 minute video, it's almost an hour. When you're less transformative than our local neighborhood goblin, there's a problem.
I actually found you through Corey a long time ago on SpookyScarySunday. And I assume watching your main channel is why this channel got into my algorithm.
humans are inherently social creatures. of course people like to hear from people they value. you can dislike xqc, but he's one of the largest streamers for SOME reason, so his audience clearly values his entertainment value.
@@mikec2845 Eh, being social still doesn’t justify playing a video in full and adding nothing of value to it. Let’s not sit and pretend that the people that actually sit and watch him watch an hour long video for some reason are going to go rewatch the original. All you have to do is read his chat as videos like that are playing to figure out that much - there will be a flood of spam when he pauses or is talking, all telling him to shut up and just play the video. Why people want to sit and watch these types of streamers isn’t really the topic, though. Personally, I’ll never understand it, but why they watch them doesn’t answer why these streamers think they’re immune from negativity to play the vids in full as soon as the OC is uploaded with tons of donos, skip their sponsorships, then reupload their “reaction” with the video recorded in full to the same platform the OC is on to receive even more revenue off someone else’s work. That’s the real issue here.
@@w花b it is objectively untrue that the top streamers have remained the same over a multi year span. streamers have risen and fallen just as often as TH-camrs. twitch's terrible algorithm may affect discovery for new creators, but it also does not assist current creators in remaining relevant. yes, a lot of top streamers have been successful for years, but that's largely due to their experience. xqc has not just remained popular for years, but truly on top. and that obviously comes from his insane stream schedule and persistence. my argument was not that people value him because he's large, but that people value his commentary for the same reasons they value watching his gameplay. ultimately something about his personality appeals to a wide audience whether you get it or not, and the react content success is because of that same personality. people call it cheap content, yes. but there are thousands of reaction channels no one cares about because no one knows their personality, or they present bland in the videos.
I see reaction videos and often think "Why the fuck is youtube promoting this to me?" I've not even watched the original yet. I don't want to sit there and listen to someone tell me what they think about a piece of content someone else has made, especially when their opinions are just so shallow and phoned in. I think it's one thing when you have people breaking down and discussing the content in-depth, but in my admittedly limited experience with XQC, that's not what he does. In fact, I dare say that he adds almost nothing of value to things he watches and reacts to.. XQC, at least for purposes of this discussion is definitely a parasite making money off of other people's hard work. He definitely cares about the money, too, or he wouldn't take the time to re-upload other people's stuff with face stapled to the bottom of it.
I'm honestly surprised TH-cam completely changed their approach to react channels. One moment they were all buried by the algorithm and the next moment they're all doing super well
Maybe because for over a decade before they started experimenting with it, there was literally no problem with any react content. Because it's almost like react videos expose to the original video to a wider audience and generates much more engagement. It's the creators who only make videos for money that are complaining because they lose a few dollars to a react video. When in reality the react channels are tunneling viewers to the creators channels. It's money money money baby.
Glad people are FINALLY talking about this and calling it out for what it is. I thought it was so strange that not even a few years ago we made fun of people who did the react content because it was lazy and hurt smaller creators. But suddenly it's OK on twitch when big streamers do it? It's so hypocritical.
9:47 This is so true. When DarkviperAU released his videos on react content this convinced Maxor to not allow reactions to his content and then after he expressed this in the comment section some people were talking shit about him because he got "exposure" from these reactors.
What's worse are their fanbase. They fanboy so hard they will rationalize the parasitic content in a way that allows them to continue to enjoy it without feeling guilty about their fav "reactor". It's like a toxic relationship: "Yeah she cheats on me, but at least I get to hit it when she comes home from Chad's house." It's just F tier cope and it's depressing that the viewers perpetuate it instead of having standards.
It is truly a show of character that you can comment on this whole situation without insulting XQC’s intelligence, even after he has built an entire career off of being a moron.
@@Bradburnsand Paris Hilton was a worldwide famous celebrity for sucking d on camera and being stupid. It's REALLY not hard to become famous if you have management and a personality that caters to children raised by the screen/morons
The worst thing about it for me is that the work put in - by the creator of the video - just gets consumed by somebody - without any care for the amount of time spent on the creative process. Time is our most valuable currency and disrespecting somebody's time and effort just feels so wrong. Transform it and comment. EDIT that stuff.
Beyond how right papameat is, Im still trying to figure out why so many ppl watch xQc reactions. he literally does just poker face reaction for 2 hours
I don't even know who xQc is but if all he does is watch others content without even doing any commentary or nothing my best guess is that his audience are just some lazy motherfuckers who is too lazy to find entertainment for themselves so they lazily go to his videos/streams whatever and just let him pick the entertainment of the day for them, know what I mean? I know some extremely lazy people exist out there so it would not surprise me if that's the reason...
This is the perfect amount of honesty, humor, and energy so that anyone should be able to understand why the "watch full videos while doing nothing" uploads are garbage that shouldn't be allowed on TH-cam.
Since when did youtube work on what some consider garbage? The algorythm will probably recommend literal horsecrap if enough enagement happens with it.
I hope your very well crafted words get through to some that can implement changes. You're not just a content creator, you're an artist. If it's happening with your hand drawn images from your mind, it's happening across the board. At a time when it's so hard for a lot of creators to come up with original content - It seems the new standard to just copy or physically use the creativity and talent of others. It should be illegal to crop out water marks or credits and use that content. Everything should be linked in descriptions
I genuinely love this. You’re more than correct when you call that specific type of ‘reacting’ parasitic because that’s all it is. These are people who prey on other people’s need for a parasocial relationship. People *want* to hang out and watch videos on TH-cam with someone else and these ‘reaction’ channels make their money off of that. They put in minimal effort, essentially steal content and wages and then get offended when called out for it. It’s gross! It’s unfair and ridiculous! I sincerely hope I live to see the day it goes out of fashion. Ps: you have lovely eyes. Seriously.
![[MV] A leap of faith...ความเชื่อใจครั้งสุดท้าย (From "Petrichor the series")](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/U1piZH2CNXA/mqdefault.jpg)
This issue has exposed me to far more XQC than I thought I could stomach
xqc stole memes too apparently
@@DeHyntonGamingo
Truth be told it's only thanks to Meat, Flash Gitz, and Oney Plays that I even know about other content creators. I think most content creators are garbage who have nothing to add unless they produce actual content that's completely new at least once in a while.
xqc also attacked r/place, ruining other peoples works on it too so like
And that says something about his presence online
It's really hard for XQC to make transformative content when no one fucking understands what he's saying.
DUD DUD DUUUD POOGGGERRRSSS THAT WAS A POGCHAMP VIDEO CHAT
The only type of video/content I’ve ever seen from him is when he was building his PC, and that was because LTT was taking jabs at him for being so …. well, to put it nicely: stupid lol.
It was so hard to watch. Not only was he so hard to understand with his constant yelling and rambling, but bless his heart, he was incredibly ignorant of the most basic tasks. It was like watching a rich kid on Christmas that got all this expensive, top of the line stuff, and just staring at it all piled up in the floor because they didn’t actually want or need any of it as what they already had was perfectly fine. The dude just bought whatever was the most expensive because randoms in chat said to and equated it to being the best lol.
Glad I'm not the only one who can't understand this idiot
I swear the funniest clip I’ve ever seen of xqc’s was his talk with Dr. K, he had no idea wtf Xqc was trying to say the whole time. lmao
Dude talks like if old Bob Dylan got cloned with drunk Lil Yachty then someone sprinkled generic cinnamon toast crunch and Adderall on the spawn before incubating it all in a cement mixer full of bricks.
CoryxKenshin is a great example of a good reaction channel. He reached out to me personally for permission to feature my animation on his channel and provided proper credit. I'm so glad that larger creators are addressing the issue of content theft because it really harms and discourages smaller content creators especially when TH-cam favours content "Curation" over content creation.
Baz(isnotreal) too!! He does very well with showcasing weird/horror/etc content and still being entertaining. He reaches out to people and is makes sure credit is given where it's due.
Also as someone who can't sit through horror by myself (due to anxiety), I like good react channels like Cory and Baz lmao
Yes OMG I loooove Cory!
There are plenty of good reaction channels out there but most of them are terrible. I saw Meat Canyon's Gutterball on ImStillDontai the other day and he basically sits through the entire video eating Doritos and gets over 240K views. There is so much content being curated at the expense of hard-working original creator's these days, it makes me sick.
Cory is amazing. Started watching him years ago with my son and it makes me so happy to hear things like this about him xoxo
Didn't he cry about a singular video of his getting age restricted? He's just as trash as the rest of them
Your XQC animation makes a lot more sense after having watched this video. It has let me enjoy the animation a lot more, and it was good without any context at all.
Agreed. The man is a genius. Even when he reacted to XQC’s reaction, he used satire by barely reacting at all - just to shine a light on how parasitic this kind of content is.
there is no where to run, chat
@@Tibialstone7 I was confused because that was my first Papa Meat video and I was like "This guy doesn't react at all". Now I get it!
I stopped watching xQc when he was watching an alt right TH-camr named moon. Moon stole someone’s script for his video and got away with ti. Moon also needs to be criticized more.
@eko9554 he's alt right? Which video?
XQC knows exactly what he's doing. He acts like it's no big deal and people shouldn't care. He knows. He's just so big he doesn't have to stop. He doesn't have to give a fuck. It's so fucked up.
I think he genuinely doesn't understand (or subconsciously chooses to not understand idk) how he affects smaller creators by doing this
he clearly isn't very bright + being ultra rich and almost never leaving your house all have horrible effects on understanding the situations of others
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I get it...the whole "Shh shh it's ok, it's just fine...just breathe" as he stabs somebody in the back trying to act like they're the one's overreacting as all the people watch him publicly murder a dude. Abusing peoples trust for him to make himself invulnerable. lol..
If he gets sued he'll stop lol, but who ever sues him will get alot of hate.
I don't know if he does... the guy is dumb as fuck, wouldn't surprise if he doesn't get it at all
The only content this happens to is quality content, yet people don’t understand how crappy it is to not get credit. ESPECIALLY when I had no money and everyone says I’m complaining for calling them out
When I still has Tiktok your channel was one I saw reuploaded a million times getting millions of views. It felt dirty to watch anyone's content that wasn't uploaded by them.
This only stops when creators start filing DMCA’s. Else you’re just complaining about it and doing nothing about it.
@@wanderingwisp4542content ripping has just gotten worse and worse, its impossible for one person to claim everything people are re uploading or using, kinda the whole reason youtube has an automated bot system that’s supposed to prevent this. crazy to blame the original creators for this lol
@@nello1591Stuff like that is always a gray area until they start making money from it. The least they could do is give credit and a shoutout to whoever made it. The people who don't even do that and crop out the persons name from the video are so scummy.
Hi, Ross. Love your stuff.
I love when millionaires claim they "don't care about making money."
Bro got a 100 million dollar deal making more than LeBron James I legitimately doubt xqc actually cares about making money he could retire right now and be set for life.
@@ZaWRLDdo you not understand. They have so much money that they don't view it as a thing anymore and have no issue taking it off of others because in their mind "it's chump change they don't need it"
@@kavalogueok but my problem with this is we don't actually know how much he made he could've made like 15 bucks or he could've made like 200 bucks the only one who knows is xqc also Hunter says that he doesn't care about money but monetizes the video but the problem with that is if Lemmino did try to copyright claim the video he wouldn't be making any money either meaning no one wins.
Like pokimane
0Dude I get so much money that the money doesn’t even matter to me” isn’t the slam dunk they think it is lmao
Notice how XQC's immediate reaction to criticism is to start flinging insults and just in general act super childish about it? Like seriously, it shows so much about the type of person he is and exactly what his problem is
man has adhd chill
I mean the man came out recently supporting Aidan Ross and Trump, so it really speaks to his immaturity if he's supporting a child for president.
It’s so frustrating how TH-cam has a content ID system that automatically demonitizes people for using two seconds of a copyrighted song while react streamers can reupload full unedited content without penalty. Really shows whose interests they have in mind behind the scenes.
People with money can weaponize the legal system.
@@dragons_red Wasn’t there this 30k subs TH-camr who watched entire episodes of anime and TH-cam defended her? TH-cam’s “morals” fluctuate constantly. It almost would’ve been better if money = power because at least their rules would be consistent.
Just keep dontai and yourrage and I’m cool
To be fair people who watch react videos aren't gonna watch this guy's videos anyway lol.
Creators can choose to remove it or report it to TH-cam. On TH-cam studios it shows how much, by percent, a video has your content.
Preach, brother. Preach.
I find myself agreeing with you constantly but definitely didn’t expect to find myself agreeing with you here 😂
Cody can operate my donut
The DO himself? Didn't expect to see him here
Never thought I’d see Donut here lol, but a welcome surprise nonetheless.
Can I have a Donut please? 😀 For my Bork bork nom nom
That most annoying thing about react channels is when they don’t even link the video they are reacting to in the description
Bro FACTS. You're clicking ON the video you are uploading, just copy the link you're on and put it there it takes 5 f*cking seconds of effort
Right. The biggest slap in the face and further evidence of how much of a piece of shit they are.
X literally links it in the desc but ok
@@thecasualsperspective I think the issue is that it's just lazy content, xqc sits there like a deer in headlights staring at the screen and says nothing lol
@@thecasualsperspective oh yeah you're entirely right, I think people who watch his content are mentally unstable and require genuine help
Seriously, Lemmino is one of the highest quality content creators on this platform. Every video he releases is thoroughly researched - with citations - and beautifully produced.
It makes me angry to see someone rip him off like xQc did.
It’s how he maintains the balance ~
Honestly. Now guys like Mr Terry and Vlogging Through History, those guys are great. They pause the videos and give a greater historical context for us. Even when they stop for the "wow factor", they'll add something like "keep in mind, this was normal for the time" or "put yourself in their shoes" to really nail home the point
@j-wilk4835 late reply I know, but vlogging through history reuploads others people content, no matter what he adds it's still not fair use. Darkviper au and legal Eagle cover fair use well.
This was EXTREMELY embarrassing for xQc. He sounds like such an immature, ignorant little child. He's wrong about so much, and he immediately goes into attack mode instead of just having a civil conversation. He comes out looking ridiculously silly
"He sounds like such an immature, ignorant little child"
His streams are no different and his audience of >14 doesn't know any better
Thats XQCs whole existence, being a dumb man baby. 😂 Thats probably why people love him in the first place.
That's XQC in a nutshell, i don't get how so many people watch him
Yeah that's him. Also a notorious coward. He's an emotional baby.
He's the prime example of modern man.
@@dylanmonstrum1538 speak for yourself
I think what Jack is doing calling out sssniperwolf right now is one of the best things to come out of TH-cam in a while.
He's doing the lord's work
Leafy called her out years ago in 2016. And to be fair he admitted his content was lazy too
Isn’t azzyland just a carbon copy of sssniperwolf.
@@ebracero50 He truly is 🙏
@@lalotime sssniperwolf has been called out for forever, leafy wasn't the first and jjjack won't be the last
"It's parasitic" is the most intellectually honest reaction to people reposting your work, even if they graft a picture of themself in the corner.
Lmao no. The dude is literally just watching a video and people are choosing to watch him watch it. That's it. This has been the case since videos on the internet even existed.
@@sorrow_Sambut at least a lot of other react channels try to express their reactions and talk about stuff, he just... Stares at stuff... If he's not gonna say anything or talk about stuff in a way that people understand, then he should just watch it on his own.
@@faintduch6630It does not matter at all. If you ask for permission to react to something and they give you permission, it does not matter. X asks for permission, and people have even asked him to stop reacting to them, which he did. X is completely willing to pay people for reacting, shout them out, etc.
@@sorrow_Samit’s always been that way is not a good argument for anything. Doesn’t mean it’s ok to steal the content of others. This is just a new way for employers to not pay people for their work and profit from the labour of others
@@markharrison6498 You know you don't need to bring politics into everything. There is no proof that reacting is harming anyone and if it is harming anyone, youtube has provided resources to stop it. Sorry but just because asmongold doesn't react to a video doesn't mean now I'll go watch it on my own, that's just not how that works. The best part is youtubers complaining about react streamers then a) taking no action and b) making videos to farm views. What a bunch of bullshit.
I love how Papa posts some of the most unhinged nightmare fuel yet is very down to earth 😂😂
Have you seen how Lord Grandmaster of Nightmare Fuel, Junji Ito is like in his everyday life? lol
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being down to earth in this unhinged world will make you unhinged.
i love tehe b eard olol
he's a champ for us free thinkers
Props to whoever was manually holding the camera for the whole video
For ruining the video?
@@tehjamerz Hardly. It adds a lot of dynamic to the video than just a boring static camera. This isn't a reaction, let's play, or some financial tips course. This is a dynamic conversation in which the speaker feels very passionate about the subject. If you like static cams, then that's just you I guess.
@@jaydonbrown617 tHiS iSnT a ReACtiOn
Cringe bro
@@jaydonbrown617 I also never said I "like static cams"
I like how you've painted a picture of what you think I am, yet all you've done is paint a picture of yourself
Hey, to me you’re both total assholes for caring. How fun, this world.
You can't argue with Xqc. He's obviously heard this argument any number of times and has justified it to himself and can't change his opinion.
You spend 12-16 hours at a computer every single day of your life and you become a little stupid
Cognitive dissonance and double digit IQ is a hell of a thing
I know he has other things he's been dealing with lately, but man the way he acted during this entire situation was inappropriate to say the least
@@Michael.Gunnerfr
Much like how monkeys at the zoo self justify throwing their feces at visitors
It's crazy how some people will actually sit down and spend hours at a time just to watch some random French guy that sounds like Borat having a mental breakdown
At least Borat is an actual funny Comedian and xqc is just a howler monkey that can talk.
hold'up. you can actually understand him? all i hear is "confused pleb-frenchman" ramblings
But I like him though, he's funny. When you say this stuff, it shows that you're engaged in the drama to hate on xqc, and not because you care about the actual issue
@@sumicmusic I mean, you can say the same thing about people who like him? People defend him not because he's right but "because I like him." He made a fool of himself on Twitter and was talking in circles and playground insults, while also addressing absolutely nothing. If you can't see that then you don't see the situation objectively either.
@@sumicmusic no, I don't really like most streamers tbh, I respect their determination of being able to not go crazy sitting in a room all day but imo watching anyone stream for hours is a waist of time
The sheer amount of research and work that went into making that John F Kennedy video, and XqC just puts his facecam in the corner and profits more
Thank you for calling this out! I love all of your content and only watch it at the source.
i also take credit for this $10, in my own way
W Meat
This should be going to xQc when he reacts to Meats video.
@@DovahKanyeyou mean when he stares at the screen?
@@mynameskid Yes.
Imagine paying to watch someone sit in a chair and pretend to laugh at stuff for an hour and a half.💀
@@Dj07-i3uno
They don’t always pretend
@@Dj07-i3uNo way they invented an among us language
Imagine having a random generated name
Sometimes i found someone who i enjoy watching their reaction or comments especially if they know of the topic and share some good thoughts Like Max on fighting game or the ER doctor.
TH-cam honestly needs to add a “reference” feature for uploads. It would be very easy to prorate the payout to multiple creators based on unique content
This i agree 100%
Really an easy fix
and the view for the reaction video should also be added to the original, it could be like stitching with tiktok
It would be nice, but TH-cam will never do that.
They don’t care about unique content, they care about big content creators with millions of subs, even if those creators just react to other content.
It's been proven that isn't really effective, Jinx would do that. It's better to shout them out and let their personal ads play, along with promotion of other works.
But even then, its understandable TH-cam creators would want a say in how their work is reacted to.
It's not unreasonable to seek permission unless it's an exception like you are critiquing a vid or it's low effort like another react.
I came to this video with high expectations but then I saw the JFK Assassination tag, I raised my expectations considerably more
Dude literally just said "Kennedy Assassination" in a sentence and TH-cam thought it was a red flag for misinformation or something
i was looking for this comment, i genuinely wondered why that was there LMAO
The weirdest thing to me is that there is no way XQC is articulate enough to come up with those tweets himself in under a week, they have to be ghostwritten in some way.
his replies to muta weren't that intellectual tho
He is capable of conveying words, he just cannot say it "LIVE". Its easier to type than to talk after all.
@@fileextensionThat and XQC clearly plays it up on his streams. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a slob and a total buffoon in reality, but he’s not as dumb as he portrays himself.
Bros using chaptgpt 😂😂😂😂
Definitely AI
Its not just that xQc is completely unoriginal, it's also the fact that even his reactions are the equivalent of watching paint dry. He's completely unintelligible, and thats WHEN he actually talks. Most times he's just sitting there completely blanked out like a Keanu stare. It's just mind boggling to me that he's the number one streamer currently. At least with react TH-camrs, you get to see someone maybe discover an old piece of music to see if they have the same sense of wonderment you did. xQc can't even do that much.
And it it is crazy how one of the two camps(streamers) can make a blue collar wage in a month, while youtubers, whom actually care about their content, get fucked by, both the algo + the system
xQc is for people who can’t stand when someone is speaking so slow. If you watch him more, I’m 100% sure you’ll understand him more. He just gets straight to the point instead of dragging on.. sort of like an ADHD fun fair.
Also, he isn’t just a reactor. He’s an entertainer, and so he entertains his audience. It’s funny ngl
@@nazomius7033 you say that as if fast-talking, straight-to-the-point, adhd content creators who are actually entertaining are rare.
@@_shirudo Who knows, I know few of those types of creators
Not even that. I feel like react TH-camrs have adapted in a way where they feel compelled to add something to the thing they are reacting to, be it anecdotes from their personal lives and experiences or having someone else to play off of, essentially creating a soft podcast.
React streamers do not do this.
imagine being able to legally stream Disney's entire catalogue of shows and movies because your face is in the corner staring into space
well that specifically is okay because fuck Disney. That company can burn in hell at this point
That's the funny thing too. They don't do that because they know it's copyright infringement and that they'll get shit taken down.
Damn, you're right, Disney REALLY needs the money from those movies and shows I'm sure.
@@cinnilen seeing how bad their stock is right now I'm going to have to say yes they really do
@@cinnilen Obviously they don't but that doesn't matter. You can't justify content theft or theft in general by saying "well they really don't need it"
Just had to subscrib after this. You are hilarious
The fact that xqc made an hour video with only 5 minutes of original content is absolutely fucking hilarious
xqc didn't "make" the video. He watched the video live, and his editor uploaded it to his channel. xQc has explicit permission from lemmino to do this, as well
@sumicmusic dont care didnt ask
@@sumicmusicsource?
@@sumicmusicExplicit Permission??? Why on earth would LEMMINO give XQC of all people permission to essentially re-upload his 1.5 hour long video? XQC is easily the worst reaction streamer on the entire platform, for someone who got famous off of rambling nonsense for multiple hours straight he can't seem to find any words while watching the video.
@@KarpetBurnright he doesn’t say or even have a reaction most of the time he’s either getting up checking his phone going to the bathroom and doing something else entirely. He just lets the video player for the audience which is stealing peoples work
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To be fair xQc is the dude who thought a prairie dog was a lobster and calls cheetahs “cheeto”. To him, any word with more than 2 syllables is a big word.
LMAO
"Jam a man of fortune and J must seek my fortune"
-Henry Æveries 1994
Pardon my ignorance because I’m not familiar with XQC but is English not his first language? I was under the impression that it isn’t.
@@mek0626 He's Canadian but I assume he's from one of the French speaking parts of Canada or places that have the weird hybrid French dialect.
He’s a fake ass cringe streamer
I find it really funny xqc spend the whole time he's "reacting" to a video being absolutely silent but as soon as someone critiques him he suddenly has so much to say
🤓haha
I remember Mystery Science Theatre 3000 had issues when they used to distribute their content. The premise of MST3000 was that it was basically a react channel watching crappy movies and commenting over it, and their solution was that they just distributed audio that *YOU* had to sync with the movie as you watched it (and presumably paid for it separately).
TH-cam could pretty easily automate a system like this for creators, that would allow react channels to link the original content and allow creators to set how they want playback framed for two feeds so that it credits the original channel and gives them revenue. TH-cam could even allow this to become nested more deeply than one-level of playback since reactions to reactions are apparently a thing these days.
For those out there who aren't familiar: MTS3K and Rifftrax put SO much work into what they do. The MST3K movies are just that: actual movies. Rifftrax does both. They offer syncable audio for movies that would be considered "block busters" or very "Hollywood". Pretty much anything they riff that has really good production value and money behind it (something you can usually find being streamed somewhere) will be sold as audio only: you only pay about 3 bucks for it and then sync it to the movie. THANK YOU for mentioning them, they don't get enough love. I think it's funny when I see a TH-camr reacting to a movie like "Birdemic" when Rifftrax did it years ago with actual writers, legit comedy, and great timing.
Is the reason such a system isn't standard on YT currently due to a technological limitation or because of a lack of interest from their end?
@@MM-jf1me there’s no real tech limitation there, embedding one video feed as an overlay on another isn’t a big deal. That said, there’s probably a number of legal and logistical hurdles to clear in making this feasible, and doing nothing is always easier than doing something (especially if you haven’t even had the idea of what to do).
@@mattreigada3745 Thanks for the explanation.
To put into perspective how bad react streaming messes with the algorithm, I have yet to be recommended Lemmino's video despite being subscribed to the channel and XQCs reaction has been pushed on me multiple times even though I have never watched anything from him. I learned about the Lemmino video from that reaction and all this drama.
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It's always a good day when papa meat uploads
Facts
Nice try bot.
Whenever I get the notification, I say, to myself, "Oh joy! Papa has returned from market to tell us of the goings-on of the Towne!" In a Victorian child voice bc I feel like that's the appropriate response.
Yep
Get his meat outta your mouth
i think they are a sign of the times. younger people are lonelier than ever, and get more of their social interactions online. A Para-social relationship with a streamer can meet the need of meaning, community and social interaction for a while or at least try to.
Exactly this
Hold I would not consider this para-social at all. People
See someone they watch and are like "huh I wonder what they say about this". From the Data I have seen the amount of people that watch the reactor have very little overlap with the people that would watch the original video.
"I socialize on a chat that scrolls by in a milisecond. That's all the socializing I need for the day."
@@birdz3676What you are describing is EXACTLY parasocial. People don't watch the content, they watch people. They only want the face, the commentary, the mere prescence of their favorite streamer and don't care about the content itself. Honestly this stuff makes me real sad, it's a LOT of very misguided kids and some f'd up adults that only want a depressing mockery of social life and defend these lazy parasites SO HARD. Real sad stuff.
@@MrAlquimista666 parasocial is not that I can watch a video of a youtuber I like reacting to something without it being parasocial. It becomes parasocial when you start to think you are friends with that streamer or think you have a deep relationship with them but they don't know you.
A PERFECT example of great reaction content is The Charismatic Voice. She reacts to music, but brings her professional singing career and experience to the table to help dive into and understand the techniques and sounds used by different singers. It's fantastic content!
yes, people like her TEACH you things, while telling you to check out who created it in the first place. she does it with so much joy, too.
She also does things like spectrum analysis on parts of the song, and she sometimes interviews and/or jams a camera down the throat of the singers she analyzes. On top of all that, watching one of her videos would be a horrible replacement for watching the music video uninterrupted, so her videos only stand to boost the performance of the originals.
@@Thanatos2996 Oh man, her videos with Will Ramos (throat cam included) are so much fun to watch! Genuine friendship right there.
Same with Chris from Vlogging Through History. He adds tons of context to the historical videos he reacts to, especially videos about the US Civil War and WW1.
She is one of my guilty pleasure channels lol
It’s crazy how this has been an issue on the internet for more than a decade. Around 7 years ago, react channels on YT were getting ridiculed for their laziness and the genre kind of died off as a result. Now the same exact problem is lingering on Twitch, but it’s accepted by even bigger audiences. There isn’t really a solution, unless copyright laws changed which would create even more problems.
copyright laws already cover this, the problem is that they expect smaller actual content creators to bring it to court, some rich asshole who doesn't even live on the same continent, as they're starting to brigade and harrass you with their zombie fanboys.
Back then the face camera in the corner magically protected you from copyright pretty much 99% of the time but in these last few years I think its been less effective as I’ve seen small reaction channels voicing complaints and even dealing with mass copyright takedowns of dozens of videos. But anyways nothing has changed since 2017. Reaction channels aren’t transformative and liking the reactor for their personality or rizz or whatever doesn’t count
Ik jinx is pissed you booted me off the platform than you use my blueprint of success
There is a huge demand for reaction content.
I honestly feel like YT and twitch are different cultures. Twitch isn't just about watching someone but also interacting with them, YT is background noise, time-killer, something to do when you're looking for something to do or how to do something. React channels would thrive on twitch cause you're reacting WITH a guy reacting and talking to them about the reaction.
Really cool of Meat to take a firm stance against lazy reaction content, especially the big fish like XQC. He acts like such a petulant child here.
In spite of their lack of integrity, I think these channels need to be encouraged to grow, and make their own, unique content.
"Petulant child. I will tolerate your insolence no more!"
-Zues to Kratos
@@Sliptied "Let's see you tolerate my fist bashing your face ☺️"
-Kratos to Zeus
It's funny because absolutely nothing will change 😂
xQc responded extremely poorly to mutahars claims, and I really think he could've done better like he has in the past. But the reason he didn't, and I know I'm defending him like a parasocial loser right now, but I really want you to try to see it the way I do, and have an actual discussion about this instead of fighting. xQc's life is falling apart right now, and recently he's been lashing out at his friends, which he's openly talked about and called it lashing out, so no presuming there. I think it's a safe assumption to say that with all this sudden drama, xqc responded poorly because of all of this, since in the past he's usually able to handle drama much better.
@j.kearney484 fr
The word NPC is used a lot. But if someone is always chatting in a stream, watching these types of streams specifically, doing NOTHING else just fully engaged, that is the pure definition of NPC
imo, they've always had the term wrong. Sure, an NPC in a video game has no agency - but - neither do the _playable_ characters. And those things only do what the player *controlling* them commands them to do.
Imo, the characters you play as are more akin to twhat the internet decided an : NPC : is.
you actually can't change an NPC's path, it's just gonna do what it's programmed to do and that's it.
Off topic but npc is used so often it has kinda lost all its weight and punch tbh. It got picked up by so many people to the point it’s feels like it’s lost its meaning. I get what u mean tho.
@@collinm.4652Mf’s will call you an NPC for going to the movies it’s that overdone
@collinm.4652 it never had punch. Probably the weakest insult I've ever heard. "You're an NPC" 🤓
@@H56Nooc Day ruined :((((((((((
good take
Awesome creator spotted.
My boi
He’s very clearly panicking and on the defensive cause he’s built a life based around this, and doesn’t want to go back to having to try and make content organically
He's worried sponsors will drop him? I dont know he's got so many avenues of income though. would severing react content really hurt him?
Damn, that's actually it lol.
@@robosing225 nah not necessarily sponsors, just the ad revenue he would get from uploading the react videos back to youtube, in terms of revenue to actual effort required its probably the easiest he’s ever had to work. Would be a lot more work to fill those hours in with other content
@@ghsty95he’s working them Egirl hours lol.
i dont really like XCC but built a life based on this? kind of an unfair assessment. is a large portion of his stream reacts? yeah but he's still be the number one streamer on twitch playing chess or whatever
We do not get a lot of TH-camrs who fight for the smaller channels. Its really nice to see that someone cares enough to help better media platforms. Hunter is elite.
Immediate shoutout to DarkViperAU for how many indepth videos he released on the topic.
@@Bradburns sure, a simple reaction is fine, but just freebooting the content and uploading to your channel is shitty. Editing it down to the specific content reaction is the better and more ethical thing to do.
@@Bradburnsnot really if they post the whole video they are reacting to, most people won't bother going to the original video
@@Bradburns not everyone believes the dogma of "any publicity is good publicity" some people want to be acknowledged for their work, not cuz they saw it from someone else.
@@Bradburns STREAMING it is fine, REUPLOADING it in the same platform is a different game. This is what SOG is saying.
Papa Meat, thank you for bringing us so much enjoyment!
no problem. i'll make an animation just for you.
@@orang1921 meat crayon give me money
@@orang1921 :)
@@isaac.azk2 i wanted to make a joke saying something like "ok send me your paypal information" but i'm worried that i'd be taken seriously and banned from commenting on the channel or reported or something so just take this explanation of not saying a joke that includes said joke as the joke 👍👍👍👍👍👎👎👍👍
TH-cam should implement a system where you can make a react category video or collab video and it has a way to add the original creator as a partial owner of the video. That way it can split the money 50/50 between the 2. Then it could benefit the original creator much much more and stop robbing them of money as often.
Then it would just be a matter of making a “approve reaction/collab” area for a creator to be able to approve the other channel using their video.
They could make it so that like only 150k+ subscribers have the option to apply for reaction approval to stop drowning in requests.
Idk they have so much money and a huge platform, you’d think they could easily start beta testing a system like this for the bigger react channels
On one hand that’s the obvious solution but now you’ve created a strong incentive for scammy creators to encourage reacts to infinity - that’s self referential and will boost shitty content
Now I really want to see a Meatcanyon cartoon of XQC being a human parasite off the internet. Long creepy fingers, and tubes of money going into his back end.
I might spam these comments just so papa sees it 😂😂😂
Idk how to spam comments but I'm googling it now
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HELL YEAH! That is totally something Meatcanyon would make a video of. Love the creative details too. Hope Hunter sees your comment, and is inspired to make something along those lines.
Preach Papa. These types of people are just lazy and not creative. Sadly, life is just unfair and bigger people profit all the time off the little guy. It’s always gonna happen cuz people will continue to let it happen
This is it. It happens because people let it happen.
Just like with onlyfans and simps. Like, I like looking at hot girls just like everyone, but I ain't gonna PAY them, further degrading my self than I already am by watching it in the first place. Girls like the one from Dr. Phil, when she hit 18 she made like 50 million dollars because of how desperate the simp army was. Like bros, you are THAT down bad?
Granted, a girl making an onlyfans doesn't bother me. She tryina make a living too. Plus, it's her original work. To me, react content is lazier than showing your vajayjay because at least you putting something out there someone else is willing to buy. Versus making no effort other than maybe giving an opinion, something literally everyone does, but monetize and make revenue of someone else's hard work.
xqc acts like he doesn't care because he's filthy rich and probably doesn't need to make money off react videos anymore. That still doesn't address the real problem of not splitting the money you generated between the original creator and him.
Super scummy as our boy says.
@@robosing225 Agree, im a guy and i like girls, but i aint gonna pay for it, the boundaries are staying right where i want em
Im quite ashamed tbh, cus i see this simping behaviour irl too, my sis is very manipulative, and the guys just follow in her footsteps, doing shit she does just so my sis likes them
Its quite depressing how people put their own unique character aside for some pussy, even when the connection isnt even genuine they do stay for a while, until its enough
And this shit is just so sad to see, xqc can easily say: I dont care and i dont do it for monetization, but why if he doesnt care, doesnt he give some of the revenue to the creators? Action speaks louder than words, and if he doesnt care about money, he should behave accordingly
Everyone cares about money in this world, so if you say you dont, i feel like youre lying, or lying to yourself
What was done to Lemino and a lot of other smaller channels is disgusting. Most of them don’t even get shout outs or credits. Don’t just re upload others work for your gain. And then they say they’re giving the smaller channel exposure but rarely that means benefits for the smaller channel.
Lemmino already has a large audience and thousands of dollars a month of patreon, but atleast xQc's editor does link the video and the channel on every react clip from the stream.
@@flameguy3416oh that makes stealing the video better
Also to mention, only action these channels can take is to do a strike on whoever stole their video, but if they do that to a bigger influencer, the horde of mindless parasocials will dive on them with a lot of hate. It's just fucked up overall, TH-cam really needs more options to deal with these idiotic reaction channels who just take the 100% of the work and reupload it for their own gain.
@@flameguy3416LEMMiNO has uploaded once in the last year. Compared to a react streamer who puts multiple videos up a day. Hundreds of hours worth of work in a single video deserves the views more than someone spending 5% of their brain reacting to it and then moving onto the next thing to react to.
@@SuperZura91this is the reason I have an issue with destiny's dumpster take on this.
When the culture finds it taboo or "unbecoming" it's not so easy to just claim someone's content, period. Let alone a larger creator who has more weight to toss around or influence.
This has been a problem for years and I'm glad people are finally addressing it. Lots of content creators, and some viewers, have pointed this out for awhile now. I never watched any of these thieves' videos, but when I found out what they were, I was shocked people actually enjoy watching that garbage. Then again, lots of people like to be told how to "react" to things these days.
I’ve noticed lately when people are wrong online they will be intentionally obtuse about the point, make a deflection/distraction argument, then pretend they are the intellectual superior. It’s so much more embarrassing than taking an L.
Why take an L when you're right?
@@Erik122_ you're the type of guy to say "but he made graduation" pack your bags pal, you're one of me now
@@Reichman4452 can you give any context to what the hell you're even saying?
@@Erik122_ it seems you dont possess functioning eyes, let me phrase it in a modern context for you
"I am become fascist, haver of wrong opinions"
- Erik
After inventing stupidity
As a Muta fan I can say his content isn't exactly unique as a genre but his approach, and his execution is, also it's genuine and entertaining.
Muta is just as unoriginal, so...y'know.
I mean it might be unoriginal or bad but it's HIS own work and not someone else's. originality is not the problem here.
I haven't watched muta since that weird h3 donation shaming thing, is he a react streamer now? I think he was mostly doing dark web reviews at the time and I enjoyed those
@@bradleycontreras4736he said Mutas content isn’t totally unique and I agree 100% as a fan of Mutas also. It’s like preferring one Minecraft TH-camr to another, the difference is that he puts together his own piece and it as a topic may be unoriginal, but it’s an original video he made. Even if you don’t like his stuff, he’s right about what he’s talking about here.
mutahar is literally indian moistcritical
I have never seen xQc getting so humiliated and ratioed online. That was so good!!
Funny how muta and dark viper got humiliated a few hours later from mr beast and daily dose 😂 you don’t talk about that tho
@@rapid9534 no one cares what those goobers have to say
@@Rootiga oh really?😂 because the whole point of your argument is xqc is “stealing” content when he has permission from these people
@@rapid9534 fr, this is a sh*t take from Meat Canyon imo it's free advertising
@@rapid9534humiliated how bro? He only said streamers can react to his stuff. He is only 1 creator when Xqc 'reacts' to more than just Dailydose's channel. Some smaller creator has also complained about how they disliked these 'reacts' streamer. Also, you know what else dailydose said? Streamer doesnt have any impact whatsoever to his view counts, so the argument of exposure means jackshit now
I like how Vlogging through History does his reaction content. He makes sure all of the ad revenue from his videos goes to the original creator. Also he has legitimate things to say and expand on when he reacts to history content. In my opinion that should be the model for react content.
Oh I love Vlogging through history. Watching his reactions got me subbed to BlueJay
How does he ensure the ad revenue from his reaction videos goes to the original content creators?
@@MM-jf1me that's what he states in pretty much every reaction video. Most creators utilize the Content ID system to claim VTH's videos and retain income that way. A few of the channels even actively encourage him to react to their content.
This struck me with “Wait! You guys are telling me *I* have to do the work!?” followed by a tantrum vibes.
BUT I AM A PROMOTER! AN INFLUENCER! IT IS MY JOB!
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CoryxKenshin is the best when it comes to asking for permission and he respects if the answer of the content owner says ‘no’, such as the one horror animation, where the content owner said ‘no’ just because it was a non-profit demonetized piece of work and they wanted it to be kept that way. He respected that, despite a lot of people sending him the video to react.
That's why Cory is my man! He's such a good guy.
Glad to hear that because my little brother watches him and always asks if I know him.
You GOTTA make a animated video about this topic, it just fits PERFECTLY
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well it's out and he reacted to xQc reacting to it
I fully agree. I can't tell you how many times, I looked in the description of a video to find the original content that is being reacted to, and there is no mention. Even if it's not a reaction video, just inspired by someone else's content, or a 1 second clip, I want to see the original. They deserve the credit.
I think reactions are great most of the time, it's just when people react to videos and just let it play without adding anything to the convo
I'm very glad someone has the courage to make videos standing up for creators. Great points, Hunter.
Have you heard of DarkViperAU? This dude is literally constantly fighting this battle. He's a true hero
@@dipdip907 It's a shame everyone shits on him when he was right the whole time. Even now he gets no credit or favorable mentions.
@@JackReacheround darkviper literally makes content out of reacting to different streamers and youtube creators. are you this blind and hypocritical?
But he makes funny faces and goes durrrrrr
Does it take courage though?
I see people like MatPat on @GTLive turn a 3 minute video into an 1 1/2 hour reaction video because of the additional content/discussion he adds. That is a great example of someone doing it right.
MatPat drives me crazy when he does that. Especially because if he just watched the rest of the video, his ramblings would be answered.
@@kristajones7202 oh, I agree. There are some where he goes over the top, but he does it so much, and has just enough good points/logic to make it tolerable
@@rhydondaddy nah he doesnt
Or they're just a great milkman, squeezing everything they can out of a dry cow.
@@KimberlyPinkney milking a video game or movie trailer? Most of the reaction content on channels that do it right don’t even use another TH-camr’s content, and when they do, they give full credit to it and stop before the “point” of the video is presented to make the reaction viewers watch the original for the final bit.
CoryxKenshin is literally The reason I follow your channels.I was really spooked at first but after seeing the smooth animation in your miniseries with the little gray guy Ive been paying more attention and respect to your videos.
I'm so glad you finally got this off your chest. It always bothered me that when I search up up an animation there's multiple react videos and it's crazy because some of the react video got more views than the actual creator does. The creator pretty much busted his butt for all that, just to get most of the views and revenue taken away by some person in a headset
At some point i don't even know if i should be mad at the players or the game.
The rules won't change though since the game likes more players.
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Should downvote those other videos when they pop up so they'll pop up less
@@nmoney000"Should downvote those other videos when they pop up so they'll pop up less" I clicked on one video about the news and now i get 85% news.
All you'd get by doing this is more reaction content that *actually* impacts your usage of the website.
not all react videos are meant to take away from the original creators hard work. They can be positive for the creator as well
The fact he doesn’t post full length movies with him silently watching without caring whether or not they get copyright strikes proves that it’s not about “sharing something he enjoys with his audience” and more about stealing content from people or agencies that lack the ability to defend themselves from having their work stolen and redistributed.
You could say the same thing about Charlie's channel moist cr1tical. on his twitch anyway. there are alot of videos he uploads where he speaks on hot topics. thats pretty transformative. but he does it alot too on twitch for sure.
Did you mean he does?
@@robosing225How is that the same thing when Charlie is actually doing it expressly to share his perspective on it, not just being a modern day Jinx
@@robosing225have you seen Asmongold videos? that's how you do reacting content, a 20 minutes video got stretch into one hour video because of him giving his opinion and got sidetracked but still manage to make it transformative
This is it.
Couldn't agree more man. I hate Tiktok for this reason, I have had to get 5 channels taken down so far for impersonation of myself.
TH-cam is better about it, but still happens.
Cory is how I found out about your channel and I’ve loved your content ever since. He does the reaction content right. He’s really helped a lot of channels get more exposure.
There's a clear difference between something like "Expert on subject reacts to and provides *commentary* over *clips* of a larger video" vs the huge number of "react streamers" who just reupload whole videos from other people with nothing added but an occasional "Oh that's crazy"
I never thought about it but very true. It’d be hypocritical of me to say that I hate react content when I subscribe to people like corridor crew and jonathan ferguson’s “firearm expert” videos.
However those who regurgitate memes and trending videos, especially without credit, are a plague of this platform
There’s a music reviewer who plays the entire song while he lays on the floor making faces and then says “Well that was good! Let me know what you think!” And that’s the entire video lol
Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
The problem with social media is it's a lot easier to be someone like xQc making money off the backs of other creators than it is to be a content creator putting heaps of effort into your work with no guarantee you'll even be compensated for it, in fact the algorithms on a lot of these sites practically encourage it.
Exactly. I don’t think people would care as much if xQc reacted to some slop channel like a Critikal or Pyro video (I love their stuff, no shade) - but reacting to a video that someone poured their heart and resources into just feels wrong. They worked hard on that, it’s not yours to share.
It's almost the same in the music industry. People who curate popular Spotify playlists often make more money than most artists (the ones not in the mainstream).
@@jacktaylor4655I’m not really in the know, but streaming services are really hard to get money off of unless you have a fanbase right?
Cause you need to have a lot of people listening to your music for you to even make any money off of it.
I’m not exactly sure how curators make their money, but wouldn’t that do the opposite of what your saying.
It boasts their content, and gives them more listeners that in turn earn them more money.
So how exactly do they lose out, because unlike TH-cam with react channels they aren’t losing any listeners or anything.
So unless I’m missing something it would actually benefit them.
Sure the person who does it, can make more money, but is that at the expense of the creators or is that a byproduct of being a popular curator.
Because simply making more money, doesn’t make them bad unless again they are somehow screwing the creators over.
XQC is a bad streamer, but I respect you for being so respectful to a streamer such as XQC, Papa Meat.
I remember being nearly thrown out of a TH-cam & Twitch panel at a convention here in San Antonio because I brought up that reaction videos are some of the lowest forms of content creation on TH-cam. I was told with a lot of aggression that we shouldn’t be able to claim our own content as our property and that Twitch doesn’t value copyright and that it’s what’s holding TH-cam back.
Cry more maybe
"React content" can be much more valuable than the content reacted to. Political, cultural, historical, theoretical commentaries are very valuable. TH-cam videos are also publicly available. It's kinda crazy you didnt learn anything from "nearly being thrown out of a panel"
@@UmmadikTasYeah, people having a small screen of yourself eating your dinner in the corner is clearly the same thing as a doctor explaining a medical video or a historian giving insight to a historic video. Mental gymnastics 101
@@UmmadikTasCommon sense does seem to be the first thing in your dictionary it appears.
@@CarrotSpunk. I no longer use the phrase "common sense". Sense is no longer common, and it unfortunately hasn't been for a very long time now.
Glad these react videos are being put to light. I do watch xqc maybe weekly, but the reaction videos are so soulless and I just hope this trend gets shot down.
Its too late. He's set for life. Even if they magically ban react content from making revenue off someone elses work.
I'm genuinely interested what the appeal to watch xQc even is, aside from not having to pay for a zoo ticket to see a monkey exhibit
You get a glipse of the past where neanderthals ruled the planet
C'mon chill with the racism
Lol actually true in some of his streams
@@ZaklnGritch In this case, it's not racism, it's speciesism 😂
@@ZaklnGritch how is this racist ?
I've recently found your channel Mr. Meat, like two months ago or smh but I just want to say that I absolutely love both your animations and this kind of content. I like how honest you are and unfiltered. Feels kinda rare. Lots of love
Sometimes people forget xQc is a guy who became rich and famous from playing videogames and incoherently yelling all day. I don't reckon he's someone who can engage with logic for too long
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Papameat/Meatcanyon has a very good reason to not like these types of "creators" if you can even call them that. He works so hard on his art and puts an immense amount of effort into getting those gems uploaded for our enjoyment. Papa is a TRUE creator...in every sense of the word. We love your meat papa!
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@@footfucker6974 🤣🤣
Also, his videos get demonetized or removed all the time, but the reaction videos to his demonetized videos don't
He gets millions of views per video. He actually has more to gain when people react to his stuff because it gets exposed to people who otherwise may not have known about it and leads them to go watch more of it on his channel. I'm willing to bet that's how a lot of us got here.
And I'm an artist myself, but I wouldn't be opposed to people giving my art exposure through reactions. Art is one of those mediums where its common for people to steal from others, get inspired from others, etc. Nothing under the sun is truly original and everything has already been done before so I don't get territorial about art anymore. Does Meat credit all the actors, musicians and tv shows he uses in his cartoons? Hell no. So he's coming off as hypocritical here. Big, well-known content creators who whine about not "getting credit" from react videos come off as greedy and entitled to me.
@@GanbarizerThe nothing is new in art argument is good but doesn't apply here. If you copied a Vermeer and took full credit, congrats to you, as you've shown zero creativity but immense skill (copying is a legitimate talent and a learning technique too). What these reaction vid folk are doing is charging people to watch them look at a Vermeer without explaining what the painting is about or who the artist is, which requires zero skill and zero creativity.
This exactly. It sucks that smaller creators are being exploited like this.
Landlords are being by exploited by single mothers and other broke people
Yep and smaller creators can't do anything about it. People have this idea that it's super easy to take down content that isn't theirs but it's not. Only people making successful claims are big companies with teams of lawyers and most of all money
One of my favorite reactors (he only reacts to History videos) is VTH (Vlogging through History). He is a Historian who reacts to videos and put in his knowledge and opinions throughout the video and always tell people to see the original content first and support them.
Just a wholesome person!
There's a few reaction channels that I like including you, they give thw right amount of commentary, generally not bad people, it's those who either don't speak or smoke while reacting, that's not content or really the right use of fair use
Smoke while reacting?
xQc actually speaks alot during his reactions, so much so that it's become a meme that he just pauses to spout dumb shit all the time on his channel. Either way, the amount that you pause on something is a thin argument, since the line is hard to find. I think a better argument for what makes a reaction channel ethical is if they have permission, and if their content is negatively affecting the original, which in xqcs case, both are in his favor im pretty sure
I wouldn’t call this channel a “react” channel. It’s more a “commentary” channel because he transforms the content to create a video that is his own style to give comments on a specific topic.
Like, when he talks about a movie, he’s not playing the movie in full and showing us his reactions. He’s not sitting there in silence for large parts and going “hah..” to continue sitting in silence some more.
No, he’s talking about it, constantly sharing giving his view on scenes, giving details about the story, maybe even shares his own experiences, mentions some behind the scenes information related to the movie, etc. He’s summarizing things while adding his style to it, making it his own video.
The types of reaction content that is being talked about takes content that releases/uploads the same day, reacts to it live (in FULL, while skipping sponsors) to rake in donos, adds nothing of value to transform it whatsoever outside of grunting, laughing, and maybe eating as it plays, never links to the original video, then uploads it the same day to take even more viewers from the original. Just pop in to some of the streams and read the chat … the thousands of viewers they have watching them aren’t going to go to the original and rewatch it. In fact, they get mad if the streamer pauses it or laughs, telling them to be quiet and just play it. It’s toxic as hell, takes from original creators, and I’m so glad it’s finally being called out.
@@TwoBsthat’s what they said, even tho they might not have used the exact perfect words you fully understood what they meant.
Why are you one of the most sensible people on this platform, stop being so likeable and down to earth dammit 😂
Cody ko is a great example of how to react to videos. He has his own audience and his own style of comedy while adding to the content he uses in his reactions
Love that old man
This reminds of old youtube where I watched whole animes and even famous ones which had slightly strict copyright coz the uploader would put a bright colorful artifical frame around each episode to skip copyright.
CoryxKenshin is THE reason I found this channel! Responsible and worthwhile creators are the only people I can respect. Glad I can call myself a fan of both dope creators!
Found MeatCanyon before Cory but I absolutely love how he credits and shows love to the creators
Lemmino is awesome, one of the best creators out there. Thank you for this video, and calling out those who profit off the hard work of others with little to no effort of their own.
i think lemmino would really appreciates this kind of content if they really put specific output regarding the topic, like for example a reaction from a former detective, criminologist, or even former CIA staff
i just looked up lemmino reaction and funny how it's always XQC that starts this shit when moist was reacting to his stuff before and there is even a playlist of it
@@FuhrerHeisenyea but people like charlie so they’re gonna excuse him because he talks slightly more than xqc.
although at least he doesn’t upload his reactions himself so he’s automatically better than xqc on that basis alone. he tries to create original content and isnt lazy like x
@@demifolk8940 idk seems like convenient excuses for your favorite streamer.
@@FuhrerHeisencharlie actually makes points and adds to the videos as opposed to x just eating and saying "datz crazy dud". Sounds like you're coping.
xQc takes a near 2 hour video, only adds 15 minutes. Asmon takes a 15 minute video, it's almost an hour. When you're less transformative than our local neighborhood goblin, there's a problem.
Asmon would get a full 8 hour stream worth of content from the LEMMINO video.
To clarify though Asmongold is still violating copyright by streaming/uploading videos in their entireity even if he does talk a lot.
I actually found you through Corey a long time ago on SpookyScarySunday. And I assume watching your main channel is why this channel got into my algorithm.
Everything I know about XQC, I've learned against my will...
I discovered you through Cory. It's good to hear you say positive things about him.
XQC proofs what's wrong with human's
We care more about the reaction from a different person then our own
humans are inherently social creatures. of course people like to hear from people they value. you can dislike xqc, but he's one of the largest streamers for SOME reason, so his audience clearly values his entertainment value.
We consume their opinions instead of thinking about the facts and making our own opinion
@@mikec2845 Eh, being social still doesn’t justify playing a video in full and adding nothing of value to it. Let’s not sit and pretend that the people that actually sit and watch him watch an hour long video for some reason are going to go rewatch the original.
All you have to do is read his chat as videos like that are playing to figure out that much - there will be a flood of spam when he pauses or is talking, all telling him to shut up and just play the video.
Why people want to sit and watch these types of streamers isn’t really the topic, though. Personally, I’ll never understand it, but why they watch them doesn’t answer why these streamers think they’re immune from negativity to play the vids in full as soon as the OC is uploaded with tons of donos, skip their sponsorships, then reupload their “reaction” with the video recorded in full to the same platform the OC is on to receive even more revenue off someone else’s work. That’s the real issue here.
@@w花b it is objectively untrue that the top streamers have remained the same over a multi year span. streamers have risen and fallen just as often as TH-camrs. twitch's terrible algorithm may affect discovery for new creators, but it also does not assist current creators in remaining relevant. yes, a lot of top streamers have been successful for years, but that's largely due to their experience.
xqc has not just remained popular for years, but truly on top. and that obviously comes from his insane stream schedule and persistence.
my argument was not that people value him because he's large, but that people value his commentary for the same reasons they value watching his gameplay. ultimately something about his personality appeals to a wide audience whether you get it or not, and the react content success is because of that same personality.
people call it cheap content, yes. but there are thousands of reaction channels no one cares about because no one knows their personality, or they present bland in the videos.
I see reaction videos and often think "Why the fuck is youtube promoting this to me?" I've not even watched the original yet. I don't want to sit there and listen to someone tell me what they think about a piece of content someone else has made, especially when their opinions are just so shallow and phoned in. I think it's one thing when you have people breaking down and discussing the content in-depth, but in my admittedly limited experience with XQC, that's not what he does. In fact, I dare say that he adds almost nothing of value to things he watches and reacts to..
XQC, at least for purposes of this discussion is definitely a parasite making money off of other people's hard work. He definitely cares about the money, too, or he wouldn't take the time to re-upload other people's stuff with face stapled to the bottom of it.
that deep angry voice you do cracks me up everytime
I'm honestly surprised TH-cam completely changed their approach to react channels. One moment they were all buried by the algorithm and the next moment they're all doing super well
Maybe because for over a decade before they started experimenting with it, there was literally no problem with any react content.
Because it's almost like react videos expose to the original video to a wider audience and generates much more engagement. It's the creators who only make videos for money that are complaining because they lose a few dollars to a react video. When in reality the react channels are tunneling viewers to the creators channels. It's money money money baby.
@@sorrow_Sam because everything just gets worse.
Im so glad I got into skyrim modding
Glad people are FINALLY talking about this and calling it out for what it is. I thought it was so strange that not even a few years ago we made fun of people who did the react content because it was lazy and hurt smaller creators. But suddenly it's OK on twitch when big streamers do it? It's so hypocritical.
well about 4 years ago one reactor killed himself
Well done, Hunter. Power to the people who actually create shit.
Papa Meat's name is Hunter?!?! Righteousness lol my boy's name is Hunter! 😁
Great videe, huge props to you and your editor(s).
9:47 This is so true. When DarkviperAU released his videos on react content this convinced Maxor to not allow reactions to his content and then after he expressed this in the comment section some people were talking shit about him because he got "exposure" from these reactors.
DarkviperAU the same guy said react streamers are the same as drugging and raping women?
@@dib327damn. People really can't read.
@@dib327 He never said that but I guess you'll say anything to protect streamers you have a parasocial relationship with ay?
@@gavinderulo12 There’s proof, you can literally google and find the tweet he made.
@@user-lh7mt7zo7l There’s proof, you can literally google and find the tweet he made. Too busy being parasocial for DarkViper it appears.
It’s wild and pretty sad how selfish and plainly unaware some of these ‘creators’ are.
They are selfish, but not unaware.
And let's not also forget that he streamed dark knight and breaking bad on his one 17 hour kick stream with his 50,000+ live viewers to watch for free
Funny how xqc asked for permission from the creators he watches and they said yes but people are still crying 😂
@@rapid9534Bait or Mental Retardation your call.
What's worse are their fanbase. They fanboy so hard they will rationalize the parasitic content in a way that allows them to continue to enjoy it without feeling guilty about their fav "reactor".
It's like a toxic relationship: "Yeah she cheats on me, but at least I get to hit it when she comes home from Chad's house." It's just F tier cope and it's depressing that the viewers perpetuate it instead of having standards.
It is truly a show of character that you can comment on this whole situation without insulting XQC’s intelligence, even after he has built an entire career off of being a moron.
@@Bradburns Clearly not as mad as you because someone insulted your streamer daddy 🤣
@@Bradburnsyou can be a complete moron and be good at a video game especially a game like overwatch
Hey brad, 11:00
@@Bradburns Dude, you’re right, nobody is watching me. I don’t stream and I don’t make videos. I can’t figure out why.
@@Bradburnsand Paris Hilton was a worldwide famous celebrity for sucking d on camera and being stupid. It's REALLY not hard to become famous if you have management and a personality that caters to children raised by the screen/morons
The worst thing about it for me is that the work put in - by the creator of the video - just gets consumed by somebody - without any care for the amount of time spent on the creative process. Time is our most valuable currency and disrespecting somebody's time and effort just feels so wrong. Transform it and comment. EDIT that stuff.
Beyond how right papameat is, Im still trying to figure out why so many ppl watch xQc reactions.
he literally does just poker face reaction for 2 hours
People are just brain dead. Incapable of being autonomous individuals.
My only theory is that they use his channel as their youtube algorithm instead of searching for content theirselves
I don't even know who xQc is but if all he does is watch others content without even doing any commentary or nothing my best guess is that his audience are just some lazy motherfuckers who is too lazy to find entertainment for themselves so they lazily go to his videos/streams whatever and just let him pick the entertainment of the day for them, know what I mean? I know some extremely lazy people exist out there so it would not surprise me if that's the reason...
If I had to guess, it makes lonely people feel like their watching a video with someone else, even if all that person does is cough occasionally
@billymays8864 that's exactly the problem and even I have done this before too without thinking about it
I was scared clicking your video for the first time, but going after big "content" creators has a lot of balls I appreciate
@@hazyhalfmoon hell nah did him dirty
This is the perfect amount of honesty, humor, and energy so that anyone should be able to understand why the "watch full videos while doing nothing" uploads are garbage that shouldn't be allowed on TH-cam.
Since when did youtube work on what some consider garbage? The algorythm will probably recommend literal horsecrap if enough enagement happens with it.
I hope your very well crafted words get through to some that can implement changes. You're not just a content creator, you're an artist. If it's happening with your hand drawn images from your mind, it's happening across the board. At a time when it's so hard for a lot of creators to come up with original content - It seems the new standard to just copy or physically use the creativity and talent of others. It should be illegal to crop out water marks or credits and use that content. Everything should be linked in descriptions
I genuinely love this. You’re more than correct when you call that specific type of ‘reacting’ parasitic because that’s all it is. These are people who prey on other people’s need for a parasocial relationship. People *want* to hang out and watch videos on TH-cam with someone else and these ‘reaction’ channels make their money off of that. They put in minimal effort, essentially steal content and wages and then get offended when called out for it. It’s gross! It’s unfair and ridiculous! I sincerely hope I live to see the day it goes out of fashion.
Ps: you have lovely eyes. Seriously.