Easy... Finally sorted it 2 years ago and 20k notes moved over. Obsidian was the best, Joplin close second. Tons of videos out there showing you how to do this easy. Evernote was junk at v10. Appallingly disrespect for customers and extremely slow with no Dev. Thank God it's gone!
After paying for two accounts for over a decade and accumulating over 20,000 notes, I switched to Joplin. While many people mention the doubling of Evernote’s prices, they often overlook the fact that Bending Spoons laid off all of Evernote’s staff. I strive not to support companies that primarily exist to enrich their new owners at the expense of their employees’ livelihoods.
I left Evernote after paying for Evernote 12 years and collecting over 32000 notes. I am now using Obsidian and seeing significant benefits to my thinking and daily workflows. Yes I had to wait 48 hours for 32,000 notes to synchronize but it went fairly smoothly and I went about my business doing other things while my computer processed the notes.
You do understand that Bending Spoons do their business from Europe. In what situation would retaining a (less ideal performing team) in timezones 6-8 hours from their HQ. Can you mention any US company who has acquired European Software and keep the team in Europe after they established the HQ as lead for the next stage.
@@DionJensen What's your point? Americans don't have to support non American companies if they so choose...especially when the cost more than double. It's called free market and no company is immune, not even European ones.
I'm leaving after 17 years and 9600 notes. Still figuring out where I'm going to go. First I'm going to archive off some really old stuff in EN that I no longer need. What I will miss most is the integration between Readwise and Evernote to finally surface my kindle highlights in a viable and usable form. Hardly any of my books are purchased at Amazon, so this elusive desire has gone unanswered until last November. I may create a new Evernote account just for that as the replacements I'm exploring don't have that functionality. So far I'm exploring Notebook from Zoho and Capabilities. I use Amazing Marvin for my todo, Calendar integration etc and mostly use Evernote to collect information for later and store some basic image captured documents (like odometer reading/ gas station receipt) every time I fill up. Plus I have lots and lots of Recipes. I've noticed that less and less is Evernote actually search friendly often not surfacing a note I'm positive is in there. And can I tell you how much I hate the "AUTO" feature for capturing paper notes or quick pictures.
Hello, I'm sticking with Evernote for several reasons, not least for its ease of use, which allows me to stay focused on my work (I don't have time to waste maintaining a system like Notion), but also for its web clipper, which is one of the best on the market, if not THE best !
I stay : - Free is never "free": someone has to pay for the non-paying users. I rather prefer my subcription money used to make Evernote better instead of supporting those "free users" - Since Bending Spoons took over Evernote, the syncing is like 100 times better than before - I really like the AI-search. It completely changed the way I search inside Evernote - I tried Notion and other competitors, but I prefer the simplicity of Evernote. It helps me focus on productivity, not on playing around with "features".
I've been a paying subscriber for years as well, but I'm fairly annoyed that smart filing in the web clipper has been broken for a year now and support is completely useless on the subject.
My perspective is that I should not have to pay near double for a company to fix their product. If I actually believed that AI would help my use-cases in a pragmatic way, I might have stayed. And I do expect there will be some folks, such as yourself, who it will be best to stay with Evernote. However, Caveat Emptor. Watch out for ongoing attempts to get more of your cash, and watch out for other untrustworthy practices. I would at least watch what other tools are doing, in case things take a turn for the worst.
@@erodrig356 My perspective concerning which company/product I would choose? 1. Evernote: slow, syncing completely unreliable, financial future very questionable 2. Evernote: fast, syncing as good as instant, financial future probably a lot more realistic Of course, the more realistic financial future, that is an educated guess. Until now, I have no reasons to question Bending Spoons. As far as I know, they never promised to not fire anyone, to not change the pricing. They did promise to make Evernote faster (they did), to make the syncing faster and more reliable (they did), to start implementing AI (they did), … So I have a lot more trust in the current Evernote company than the one of the past until they prove me wrong. Btw, one of the problems that the current Evernote solved for me … I had multiple mail subscriptions which provided me mails with a lot of useful information. Problem: I have not the time to read all those mails or to get the useful info out of it. Solution: I moved all those mails to Evernote into some themed notebooks. I’m talking about ten thousands of mails. Because of the sheer volume, they became completely useless while sitting in my mailbox. I can now use the Evernote AI to question the info in those notebooks, for example, “What can you tell me about better organising my time”. It will now use those mails/notes to produce an answer. It completely changed the way I work with mail subscriptions. And this is only one example. I think that a lot of people are still thinking the old way when working with notes/information. Well, I was at least one of those.
I have been a paying Evernote subscriber from 2011 until 2022. Over Christmas, I finally closed my Evernote account having moved all my data to Notion and OneNote (still deciding). It was a good run.
My Evernote just expired today, and I'm debating whether to renew it. Any insights? Notion doesn't seem much cheaper, and the hassle of moving notes there is a bit much.
On contemplating a switch, I did a test run with Notion and it did not accept the full note in transfer. I really like the pdf attachment storage of Evernote also.
I'm liking OneNote now... it looks like the best mix of ideas between Google Keep and Evernote. Ya, I used Evernote from 2012 until the end of 2023, when it was no longer free to make notes...
I also have cancelled my subscription yesterday. This was two weeks before my Evernote renewal which was cost me nearly double the price. Good luck with your new tool! Similar to Francesco's guidance, I have changed up the foundations of my note-taking and productivity organization, with some truly valuable benefits in the past 5 months as I was testing my new tool (Obsidian). I cracked a few use cases that I could never get traction upon with Evernote. And I find I have experienced more creativity with the PKM-oriented approach, connecting different thoughts.
I have tried almost ALL note-taking apps and I am have came back to Evernote. 1. There is NO app which has OCR capabilities like Evernote. 2. Ability to natively record audio and add them anywhere in the note is another unique feature. 3. Feature to natively sketch inside the app 4. Annotating images and screenshots in a note. The only app which comes close is OneNote in terms of these features. But I just hate Microsoft products UI UX. Syncing has 0 issues for me and has improved drastically. I am staying 100%.
As Francesco mentions, if you have many notes, you will want to go with a tool with a good migration tool from Evernote. I found that with Obsidian the migration was robust, with exception of the web-clipped notes and email sent notes. But there are steps documented on the web to process them special. Also there are other tools that will also import Evernote, but expect some percentage of notes will have issues, and will need special attention if you want to retain their content.
** Update from my original comment ** I'm a Mac user so I switched to Apple Notes. It has folders and my work flow was easy to transfer to that software. I just keep it mostly for documentation and to store PDF records. Sort of like an electronic filing system.
@@DavidTschoepe Interesting. I always forget about Apple Notes because it was previously terrible. Maybe I should look at it again, but Obsidian is very good for me so far.
After years on Evernote, I could not take it anymore. Its slowness has not improved and its iPhone app is even slower, the limit of 50 notes is outright offensive. I am in the process of transitioning to Notion and getting used to it.
After a decade of utilizing Evernote, I can honestly say that this year has been one of the most productive in terms of developments that I have seen. The changes actually make me want to stay.
Staying with EN as well. I am encouraged by the current owners. For what EN does for me the monthly cost of the personal account is not a burden. Understand that’s not true for everyone. Pay $15 for a waste of time TV app? Or EN that runs everything for me. Haha
Thanks for the video. Always instructive. But as is often the case with your videos, they are very much Apple centric. Bear, Agenda and Noteplan and others mentioned are Apple only and there is no mention of this. Windows has 2-3 times the market share of macOS. Keep this in mind please!
Windows has 2-3 times the market share of macOS, Microsoft 365 is ~six times the size of Google Workspace alone, nevermind all the VC bootstrapped startups. The KP crew should really try to live in a Windows+M365 type environment for a while for perspective. Hell, that'd make great content. Linus Tech Tips has done "1 month on Linux" type stuff. Why not "Apple+Google productivity TH-camrs go Redmond"?
I am staying and think that you, Francesco, are not mentioning the many improvements that Evernote have introducere lately. Especially speed is very fast now and I no longer get sync errors.
I fully agree. Lost trust was the fundamental reason that I left after 12 years of paying the subscription. If they treat us this way in the beginning of their tenure as owners of Evernote, what can I expect if I stay?
Evernote died with the constant restriction of features and unnecessary tiering while asking for more subscription fees on many occasions. Users felt betrayed and the apps value reflected the sentiment...
Thank you a great video! I've used Evernote for a decade and I've hated the price increases and at times the slowness (although Evernote has fixed it). I've tried so many other note taking apps probably every app out there. I move away from Evernote for a while but I always find myself returning back to Evernote again! Again today I've upgraded my Evernote plan. I really believe it's the Evernote interface and usability that just makes it work for me.
I still don't see me leaving Evernote. I don't see the point. The price point is fair for how much I use it and what I get out of it. The yearly $130 USD works out to 35 cents a day. Less than HALF A BUCK A DAY. I 100% get more than a bucks worth a day out of Evernote, lol. I've looked at dozens of apps over the years. None of them click with my brain the same way Evernote does. I hope everyone leaving finds whatever it is they're looking for, but I'm still happy where I am. 😊
It's not a "note-taking" app. It's a searchable digital file cabinet. The search is pretty good now and I see AI improving the search piece going forward. I just have no problems with it keeping my stuff for fast review.
This is a good way to put it. I never really stuck with it to takes notes in because I have Apple Notes for that but things (notes, files, etc) that I want to store long term and search for go into Evernote.
Hey there, Can you tell me whether It can search on different files? Like I am typing ABC in my new file and does Evernote recogniesHey there, Can you tell me whether It can search on different files? Like I am typing ABC in my new file and does Evernote recognise that ABC from any other different file that we have uploaded ?
For the new pricing, the support experience is horrendous. I will ride out this year's subscription, but I'm extremely unlikely to renew it at the end of my current term. Especially since the Outlook Web Access plugin has been broken for weeks with no fix in sight.
I use Evernote as a file-cabinet and archive. I have 4-5 notebooks with 400-450 notes in total based on "area" and then I have "organised" all my notes through a tag-hierarchy. Can anyone suggest a good alternative based on these criteria? I really don't need that many, or advanced features. The most important thing is the ability to setup a tag structure.
I use it like this too. My subs doesn't expire until April but after having a look at alternatives, I settled on Obsidian and have imported all my notes and then ran them side by side for a bit. I miss the email option but anything I need I just print to a PDF and add
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Being a customer since 2008, I am never going to give up on a tool that has had helped me during so many years.
I’m sticking because Evernote continues to fit the bill for me. I am used to it and the features they gave like popping up a note tied to an appointment and I like the interface. I question the ability of all of the note taking and PKM to survive for as long as Evernote has from a business standpoint. I would hate to make the big migration only to find I will need it to do it again months down the road
I have been really impressed with how well Amplenote handles Evernote improvements. Notes with images and /or file attachments seem to import without issues :)
I was a paying Evernote customer, but left when they tripled the yearly price. Price was only half the reason; the other half was my complete lack of faith that Bending Spoons is not going to sink like the Titanic. Not a stable company.
Thank you so much for this! I'm terrible at doing my research on things and I've been using Evernote for years and years. The thought o switching causes me angst, but so does the $140 charge I just saw on my credit card. I had felt like $50 was steep last year, but this is a LOT. I used to use Evernote for work but now it's really just personal but important stuff that I need to access on different computers and my phone. I will really have to think about this but this video and your webpage article have been very helpful.
Being almost ancient, I was one of the first subscribers to Evernote and it was one of my key services. Once Phil Libin left it lost its way even more and deteriorated into a bloatware-heavy monster. Once BS got its hands on it and the prices soared, I had already left and plumped for Upnote. I admire those subscribers who are sticking with it but I am also with Victor Bernace, I will not support a company that lays off hundreds of loyal employees. BS should have taken a leaf out of the book of Todoist and worked out an efficient remote working scenario. That it hasn't done this makes me doubt their technical and management abilities.
Been with Evernote since the Tape days. Realised that I generally use it as a filing cabinet, rarely seeing the files again. Joplin is doing this well, for free. However, I'm always happy to pay for a decent product - if ONLY Bending Spoons would communicate better on what we might expect...
I started using evernote at the beginning of 2023 and used it for a full year with a paid subscription. In the end, I didn't use all of it's functionalities since I'm not a hardcore user, which is why I have decided to move on to something more straight forward.
Exported everything. Joplin seems to be working out best so far; Obsidian was good but not really what I needed. No need for Notion. EDIT good video btw, nice considerations. The whole subscription hike (not just Evernote) thing got me moved over to Linux and working out a DIY sync system. Not so hard once the decision was made.
Me also. Evernote becoming very expensive so I went over to using 'Joplin'. Joplin is good. The changeover was a pain-in-the-ass but quite straightforward.
I've been a fan of Evernote since the start but my usage has declined over the last few years. Combine that with the huge price bump, I no longer find it a viable or valuable option. I'm trying to use the apps I have at my disposal so I've imported all my notes into Apple Notes. There's no subscription costs and I can collaborate on notes with my wife much easier than I could with Evernote or Craft. The only drawback with Apple Notes is the inability to add notes via email and the absence of a web clipper. Otherwise, it will meet my needs in the short term.
I've checked out some other options, but the OCR feature for PDFs and images is kinda limited in other apps, and it doesn't perform as smoothly. Honestly, Evernote seems a bit outdated to me, and the new owners don't really seem tuned in to what their paying users want - same goes for the old owners, to be honest. 🤷♂ It's like a golden opportunity for a talented coder to chat with us, the paying Evernote customers, and whip up a script that actually does what we need and works seamlessly. 🚀.
Not for me! I just returned and love it all over again. I've used it since 2009 and left last year for "greener pastures" but after checking out the New Evernote I'm loving the changes and happy to start contributing to its developement after being a freeloader for years.
Thank you for this. I’ve been an Evernote user since May 2008. It is hard to believe, but I feel like I have no other option. Your video did help a lot, however, where does notion fit into all of this? Is it in any way an alternative to Evernote. I use Evernote for scanning pdf with Scannable, searching inside pdf, taking text notes, and web clipping. I am thinking of using Notion for notes, tasks, projects (PARA method, Ultimate brain setup), up note or day one journal for the simple text notes and also Notion (different database) for web clipping. I just need something to search a pdf with keywords from inside the file, like in Evernote. Any ideas?
It's a shame. To me it was never about the price. It was the stability. But then something major went wrong. Syncing several devices went horrible, and I got tons and tons of notes there, with attachments. A decade worth of info. Additionally, Evernote locks you into their .enex proprietary format. Search became horrible. Tables visibility across devices was so bad. I invested time to export all my work and now am on Obsidian.
I migrated to Zoho Notebook which was seamless, and I've been very happy with it. I starting using Todoist to have more control over task scheduling and planning. Even with Pro plans for both, it's only about $70 a year.
I'm fully invested in Apple ecosystem. When my Evernote subscription is up, I will be cancelling it. I'm using Apple Notes more and more will be making the transition slowly.
Same here. I moved to bundled notes and Google keep for my daily journal and to do list's. Bundled notes is a good one even if you're a free user. The interface is pleasing and goes well on my amoled display.
Hi Francesco.. Thank you so much for your video. I have used Evernote for more than a decade and loved it. Since retiring I don't need all the bells and whistles; I just want somewhere to store my notes of sermons. As an Apple fan I have found that Apple Notes is ideal. Simple to use yet with a fair number of tools. Migrating my notes from Evernote is a problem as I seem to have been locked out of my old notes and just get a blank screen both on my iPhone and on my Mac (except for an opportunity to subscribe)!.
I have no issue for money... But how people react, how they try to switch and how Evernote increases the prices makes me think it's a very unstable company now and it has (and will have) financial issues, so I don't trust them anymore to keep my notes and stuff in it, they can shut down any time...
I am missing their super customer success manager for our business. Was always helpful and even triggered my team to work more with Evernote, being more productive at the end. Now we end up to be the cashcow for them. 50% more for Evernote Teams account. We will have to evaluate if it pays off in the future.
I hate bending spoons, and already moved to notion. It is better than evernote and did replace lots of services that I used to use and I'm very happy with it. It is sad to see that evernote is struggling in their business model Btw I'm used to a paid user but I'm very unhappy with their current plan where the only features I need is multiple devices sync
Over 10 years of intensive Evernote user - now I export all important notes. I now use Paperless-ngx for document management. 100 x faster, finds everything immediately, an optimal display - and it's all absolutely free on my home server (a Raspberry Pi ), which I can access as fast as an arrow via VPN when I'm on the move. Evernote can't keep up in this area.
it looks interresting. Does it allow advanced search syntax like EN ? I mean for example on EN I had tags like LabelOne, LabelTwo, LabelThree... and I can have a research like that, Label*, which call all notes tagged with LabelXXX...
If you have just plain notes - leave, if you have various types of files combined with notes then stay. I have tried all of them and Evernote is the only one that will store whatever you give it
I left! They locked it up and i had to try the trial to open i to get my precious notes. This i did & printed off all my notes. Then cancelled my free trial. I had to give my credi card to run the 7 day trial. I told them i would nevervuse their product again.
Great assessment. Both on deciding whether to stay and options. I left Evernote after 12 years as a paying subscriber. I went heavier with the PKM oriented Obsidian. Regarding Evernote, I found that I don't have any valuable use cases with AI enabled. As such, I simply will not pay a premium price for those features. However, the major part of the decision, and my reason to go through the pain of migrating tools, is that Bending Spoons have not given me a reason to trust them. They have nearly doubled my price. And then they have disabled exporting more than 100 notes, making it nearly impossible to "decide" to stay. Sorry, but from my perspective, this seems like a money grab, EVEN IF that wasn't their intention.
What do you mean at the 7:55 mark about being Apple promoted or Apple adopted? You also talk about being less community focused. I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean by these comments. Is Evernote intending to become an Apple exclusive app? And all companies want to have some element of community so what aspect of community do you see them trying to get away from? Are you trying to contrast being more mainstream with being more niche? I certainly think it's already pretty mainstream in terms of functionality but maybe not in terms of awareness. Not trying to be challenging, but seeking to understand these comments because I think you've said something like this a few times related to Evernote so I'm trying to understand what you really are envisioning.
Unfortunately, Evernote has literally catapulted itself back into the Stone Age with v10 of its client. Many of the basic functions of v6 have simply been omitted. But in return, the prices increase every year. I have rarely been so disappointed by a product.
@keepproductive what a horrible decision it was to stay with Evernote- I can’t even get it to do anything as simple as allowing to create a widget on my Mac & anything I share from my photos on various devices to webpages….pdfs etc- Every time I get an error message, and all the devices are up-to-date, apps are up-to-date, I believe and reinstalled, restarted etc DISASTER. And I’m paying for this like an idiot.
There is no alternative to Evernote - full stop. Notion, Obsidian, etc require you to build an Evernote capability before you can use it - other solutions just don’t offer the full package that Evernote does. Evernote has been improving. Innovation? No, I don’t AI to search my notes
Evernote was FORCED on me back when i had an HTC. I used the built in notetaking app and suddenly it said "notes is now Evernote!" It was servicable for a while but it's turned into an absolute circus, every time i open a note i get bombarded with double ads that are so stupidly difficult to dismiss that i forget what note i was trying to take in the first place. Screw this app. More like Evernope.
It is not possible to understand why an application that reaches a high standard and fuctionality, people leave for an application of a lower standard and continue to suffer from development problems - masochistic people.
I moved to Zoho the other day. It has everything I used on Evernote but for free and I can't afford to drop a hundred considering I paid $50 last year for the annual plan. Missing Ian Small lol
@@toolfinderhqThey've actually been getting a decent amount of users coming from Evernote because they've been offering discount plans if you migrate from Evernote
what they did to evernote is unacceptable. I have used evernote mainly to sort and scan my pdf documents, it had a great ocr, and i had my documents on my phone easy searchable. i will move to apple notes for this.
I am sticking to it for it's integration with Read Wise. I know Notion gives that option as well. But the minor issue I have with Notion is that when I copy paste any thing with quotes around them , and paste it in the browser or notepad or word the output is not right. As I use Booleans a lot, that is a deal killer for me.
Upnote is very fast, reliable , features complete .EN managed by a whole company from Italy is a customer -focused disaster (I’ve been customer for 12 years) , ripping your pockets , while UN costs less than 1$/ momth. Your comment is either based on ignorance or racism , I dont see the point (is Samsung from northamerica or in Korea ???
@@claudiopiga8843 two man band. I’m guessing you have never lived in Asia? I don’t really care what you think of my logic you want to risk your data fill yer boots….
I really like what Evernote has done with it's application and is great for that it is. I'm not staying because of their terrible terrible so terrible android experience. I'm sick of it and I really need it. So if they fix their incredible slow android app, I'll come back immediately.
@@swacsd Actually, I did not had any problem. There are restrictions by Evernote. You can't export multiple notebooks at once, or more than 100 notes (? not sure anymore). Otherwise, there were no issues. Also the attachments were exported without problem and added to the right notes. But I have to say, that most was text or attachments - and almost no tables. So I can't comment on that.
The problem with Evernote is not its usefulness or functionality. That is great. The problem is that under the hood it’s a piece of tr@sh. It’s buggy, unreliable, annoying, and it can lose your data if you’re unlucky. And it locks you in! Export options are buggy and slow. Really bad experience.
I'll stay on Evernote. Only the search capabilities in several file types and the web clipper are worth the Premium plan. And that's "only" 100€ / year. Notion isn't cheaper and don't offer the mentioned features at all. It's a tool for different purpose. Onenote is a more comparable tool to Evernote, but not quite as good as Evernote. I don't understand people who are switching to Joplin: It still feels like beta, not that feature rich, you have to take care of syncing or pay for Joplin Cloud. Even Apple Notes is far more clean and reliable than Joplin. I tried all the mentioned tools -> always came back to Evernote! Nevertheless, constantly trying to find the best tool and switch regurarely is the #1 productivity killer! Just stick to a tool and keep working!
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Easy... Finally sorted it 2 years ago and 20k notes moved over. Obsidian was the best, Joplin close second. Tons of videos out there showing you how to do this easy. Evernote was junk at v10. Appallingly disrespect for customers and extremely slow with no Dev. Thank God it's gone!
UpNote is a good alternative
I’m using a combination of Zoho Notebook and Todoist since I need strong capabilities for both. Still much cheaper than Evernote!
Nice@@Trimalchio12 - Previous suggestion on UpNote is a good call. Anything but Evernote.. it's dead.
Tbh, I'm really disappointed. I liked Evernote
After paying for two accounts for over a decade and accumulating over 20,000 notes, I switched to Joplin. While many people mention the doubling of Evernote’s prices, they often overlook the fact that Bending Spoons laid off all of Evernote’s staff. I strive not to support companies that primarily exist to enrich their new owners at the expense of their employees’ livelihoods.
especially when theres open source and better apps out there
I left Evernote after paying for Evernote 12 years and collecting over 32000 notes. I am now using Obsidian and seeing significant benefits to my thinking and daily workflows. Yes I had to wait 48 hours for 32,000 notes to synchronize but it went fairly smoothly and I went about my business doing other things while my computer processed the notes.
You do understand that Bending Spoons do their business from Europe. In what situation would retaining a (less ideal performing team) in timezones 6-8 hours from their HQ. Can you mention any US company who has acquired European Software and keep the team in Europe after they established the HQ as lead for the next stage.
@@DionJensen What's your point? Americans don't have to support non American companies if they so choose...especially when the cost more than double.
It's called free market and no company is immune, not even European ones.
I'm leaving after 17 years and 9600 notes. Still figuring out where I'm going to go.
First I'm going to archive off some really old stuff in EN that I no longer need.
What I will miss most is the integration between Readwise and Evernote to finally surface my kindle highlights in a viable and usable form. Hardly any of my books are purchased at Amazon, so this elusive desire has gone unanswered until last November.
I may create a new Evernote account just for that as the replacements I'm exploring don't have that functionality.
So far I'm exploring Notebook from Zoho and Capabilities.
I use Amazing Marvin for my todo, Calendar integration etc and mostly use Evernote to collect information for later and store some basic image captured documents (like odometer reading/ gas station receipt) every time I fill up. Plus I have lots and lots of Recipes.
I've noticed that less and less is Evernote actually search friendly often not surfacing a note I'm positive is in there.
And can I tell you how much I hate the "AUTO" feature for capturing paper notes or quick pictures.
Hello,
I'm sticking with Evernote for several reasons, not least for its ease of use, which allows me to stay focused on my work (I don't have time to waste maintaining a system like Notion), but also for its web clipper, which is one of the best on the market, if not THE best !
Agree. Notion is just a waste of time for me.
How does a Web clipper justify a 100% increase in fees every year? Absurd.
I stay :
- Free is never "free": someone has to pay for the non-paying users. I rather prefer my subcription money used to make Evernote better instead of supporting those "free users"
- Since Bending Spoons took over Evernote, the syncing is like 100 times better than before
- I really like the AI-search. It completely changed the way I search inside Evernote
- I tried Notion and other competitors, but I prefer the simplicity of Evernote. It helps me focus on productivity, not on playing around with "features".
Good to hear your thoughts on this, we love both sides of the coin.
I've been a paying subscriber for years as well, but I'm fairly annoyed that smart filing in the web clipper has been broken for a year now and support is completely useless on the subject.
My perspective is that I should not have to pay near double for a company to fix their product. If I actually believed that AI would help my use-cases in a pragmatic way, I might have stayed. And I do expect there will be some folks, such as yourself, who it will be best to stay with Evernote. However, Caveat Emptor. Watch out for ongoing attempts to get more of your cash, and watch out for other untrustworthy practices. I would at least watch what other tools are doing, in case things take a turn for the worst.
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My perspective concerning which company/product I would choose?
1. Evernote: slow, syncing completely unreliable, financial future very questionable
2. Evernote: fast, syncing as good as instant, financial future probably a lot more realistic
Of course, the more realistic financial future, that is an educated guess.
Until now, I have no reasons to question Bending Spoons.
As far as I know, they never promised to not fire anyone, to not change the pricing.
They did promise to make Evernote faster (they did), to make the syncing faster and more reliable (they did), to start implementing AI (they did), …
So I have a lot more trust in the current Evernote company than the one of the past until they prove me wrong.
Btw, one of the problems that the current Evernote solved for me …
I had multiple mail subscriptions which provided me mails with a lot of useful information.
Problem: I have not the time to read all those mails or to get the useful info out of it.
Solution: I moved all those mails to Evernote into some themed notebooks. I’m talking about ten thousands of mails.
Because of the sheer volume, they became completely useless while sitting in my mailbox.
I can now use the Evernote AI to question the info in those notebooks, for example, “What can you tell me about better organising my time”.
It will now use those mails/notes to produce an answer.
It completely changed the way I work with mail subscriptions.
And this is only one example.
I think that a lot of people are still thinking the old way when working with notes/information.
Well, I was at least one of those.
I have been a paying Evernote subscriber from 2011 until 2022. Over Christmas, I finally closed my Evernote account having moved all my data to Notion and OneNote (still deciding). It was a good run.
Notion is great choice
My Evernote just expired today, and I'm debating whether to renew it. Any insights? Notion doesn't seem much cheaper, and the hassle of moving notes there is a bit much.
On contemplating a switch, I did a test run with Notion and it did not accept the full note in transfer. I really like the pdf attachment storage of Evernote also.
I'm liking OneNote now... it looks like the best mix of ideas between Google Keep and Evernote.
Ya, I used Evernote from 2012 until the end of 2023, when it was no longer free to make notes...
I also have cancelled my subscription yesterday. This was two weeks before my Evernote renewal which was cost me nearly double the price. Good luck with your new tool! Similar to Francesco's guidance, I have changed up the foundations of my note-taking and productivity organization, with some truly valuable benefits in the past 5 months as I was testing my new tool (Obsidian). I cracked a few use cases that I could never get traction upon with Evernote. And I find I have experienced more creativity with the PKM-oriented approach, connecting different thoughts.
I have tried almost ALL note-taking apps and I am have came back to Evernote.
1. There is NO app which has OCR capabilities like Evernote.
2. Ability to natively record audio and add them anywhere in the note is another unique feature.
3. Feature to natively sketch inside the app
4. Annotating images and screenshots in a note.
The only app which comes close is OneNote in terms of these features. But I just hate Microsoft products UI UX.
Syncing has 0 issues for me and has improved drastically.
I am staying 100%.
I totally agree and I don't know why people don't talk about this stuff more. Another one is that you can see csv file previews in the note.
Zoho Notebook does all of that.. for free
My Evernote pricing went from $49 to over $140 per year. I'm actively looking at alternatives.
As Francesco mentions, if you have many notes, you will want to go with a tool with a good migration tool from Evernote. I found that with Obsidian the migration was robust, with exception of the web-clipped notes and email sent notes. But there are steps documented on the web to process them special. Also there are other tools that will also import Evernote, but expect some percentage of notes will have issues, and will need special attention if you want to retain their content.
@@brunofonseca4578 Logseq is a great app, but their sync is iffy, to say the least.
Same thing here
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I'm a Mac user so I switched to Apple Notes. It has folders and my work flow was easy to transfer to that software. I just keep it mostly for documentation and to store PDF records. Sort of like an electronic filing system.
@@DavidTschoepe Interesting. I always forget about Apple Notes because it was previously terrible. Maybe I should look at it again, but Obsidian is very good for me so far.
After years on Evernote, I could not take it anymore. Its slowness has not improved and its iPhone app is even slower, the limit of 50 notes is outright offensive. I am in the process of transitioning to Notion and getting used to it.
Broken trust. That was the major effect I experienced from these moves from the new owner.
After a decade of utilizing Evernote, I can honestly say that this year has been one of the most productive in terms of developments that I have seen. The changes actually make me want to stay.
Good to hear.
Staying with EN as well. I am encouraged by the current owners. For what EN does for me the monthly cost of the personal account is not a burden. Understand that’s not true for everyone. Pay $15 for a waste of time TV app? Or EN that runs everything for me. Haha
Thanks for the video. Always instructive. But as is often the case with your videos, they are very much Apple centric. Bear, Agenda and Noteplan and others mentioned are Apple only and there is no mention of this. Windows has 2-3 times the market share of macOS. Keep this in mind please!
Windows has 2-3 times the market share of macOS, Microsoft 365 is ~six times the size of Google Workspace alone, nevermind all the VC bootstrapped startups. The KP crew should really try to live in a Windows+M365 type environment for a while for perspective. Hell, that'd make great content. Linus Tech Tips has done "1 month on Linux" type stuff. Why not "Apple+Google productivity TH-camrs go Redmond"?
I am staying and think that you, Francesco, are not mentioning the many improvements that Evernote have introducere lately. Especially speed is very fast now and I no longer get sync errors.
Customer since 2008. I canceled. It's predatory.
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I fully agree. Lost trust was the fundamental reason that I left after 12 years of paying the subscription. If they treat us this way in the beginning of their tenure as owners of Evernote, what can I expect if I stay?
@@erodrig356 what do you now use?
Evernote died with the constant restriction of features and unnecessary tiering while asking for more subscription fees on many occasions. Users felt betrayed and the apps value reflected the sentiment...
Thank you a great video! I've used Evernote for a decade and I've hated the price increases and at times the slowness (although Evernote has fixed it). I've tried so many other note taking apps probably every app out there. I move away from Evernote for a while but I always find myself returning back to Evernote again! Again today I've upgraded my Evernote plan. I really believe it's the Evernote interface and usability that just makes it work for me.
I still don't see me leaving Evernote. I don't see the point. The price point is fair for how much I use it and what I get out of it. The yearly $130 USD works out to 35 cents a day. Less than HALF A BUCK A DAY. I 100% get more than a bucks worth a day out of Evernote, lol. I've looked at dozens of apps over the years. None of them click with my brain the same way Evernote does. I hope everyone leaving finds whatever it is they're looking for, but I'm still happy where I am. 😊
I would've stayed if it didn't cost so much including taxes. With taxes it adds up
It's not a "note-taking" app. It's a searchable digital file cabinet. The search is pretty good now and I see AI improving the search piece going forward. I just have no problems with it keeping my stuff for fast review.
This is a good way to put it. I never really stuck with it to takes notes in because I have Apple Notes for that but things (notes, files, etc) that I want to store long term and search for go into Evernote.
Yes! This is a great description of Evernote. And I haven't found anything comparable. I am disappointed by the price jump though.
Prices of everything have jumped not just EN. Have to have a more macro view as to why that is.
Hey there, Can you tell me whether It can search on different files? Like I am typing ABC in my new file and does Evernote recogniesHey there, Can you tell me whether It can search on different files? Like I am typing ABC in my new file and does Evernote recognise that ABC from any other different file that we have uploaded ?
For the new pricing, the support experience is horrendous. I will ride out this year's subscription, but I'm extremely unlikely to renew it at the end of my current term. Especially since the Outlook Web Access plugin has been broken for weeks with no fix in sight.
Its complete junk, many better options out there!
I moved from OneNote to (paid) Evernote about a year ago and I am really enjoying it. I have not plans to leave Evernote.
I use Evernote as a file-cabinet and archive. I have 4-5 notebooks with 400-450 notes in total based on "area" and then I have "organised" all my notes through a tag-hierarchy. Can anyone suggest a good alternative based on these criteria? I really don't need that many, or advanced features. The most important thing is the ability to setup a tag structure.
I use it like this too. My subs doesn't expire until April but after having a look at alternatives, I settled on Obsidian and have imported all my notes and then ran them side by side for a bit. I miss the email option but anything I need I just print to a PDF and add
Being a customer since 2008, I am never going to give up on a tool that has had helped me during so many years.
I’m sticking because Evernote continues to fit the bill for me. I am used to it and the features they gave like popping up a note tied to an appointment and I like the interface. I question the ability of all of the note taking and PKM to survive for as long as Evernote has from a business standpoint. I would hate to make the big migration only to find I will need it to do it again months down the road
I have been really impressed with how well Amplenote handles Evernote improvements. Notes with images and /or file attachments seem to import without issues :)
I was a paying Evernote customer, but left when they tripled the yearly price. Price was only half the reason; the other half was my complete lack of faith that Bending Spoons is not going to sink like the Titanic. Not a stable company.
Thank you so much for this! I'm terrible at doing my research on things and I've been using Evernote for years and years. The thought o switching causes me angst, but so does the $140 charge I just saw on my credit card. I had felt like $50 was steep last year, but this is a LOT. I used to use Evernote for work but now it's really just personal but important stuff that I need to access on different computers and my phone. I will really have to think about this but this video and your webpage article have been very helpful.
wow Francesco, congrats for you hardworking on catalog all of that!
Thank you, always here to help with toolfinder.co/
Stop hating on Evernote. The tool is more useful than ever and I would pay more given how much I use the tool and how much value I get out of it
Being almost ancient, I was one of the first subscribers to Evernote and it was one of my key services. Once Phil Libin left it lost its way even more and deteriorated into a bloatware-heavy monster. Once BS got its hands on it and the prices soared, I had already left and plumped for Upnote. I admire those subscribers who are sticking with it but I am also with Victor Bernace, I will not support a company that lays off hundreds of loyal employees. BS should have taken a leaf out of the book of Todoist and worked out an efficient remote working scenario. That it hasn't done this makes me doubt their technical and management abilities.
Been with Evernote since the Tape days. Realised that I generally use it as a filing cabinet, rarely seeing the files again. Joplin is doing this well, for free. However, I'm always happy to pay for a decent product - if ONLY Bending Spoons would communicate better on what we might expect...
All the employees are AI. So of course they don’t know how to communicate.
I started using evernote at the beginning of 2023 and used it for a full year with a paid subscription. In the end, I didn't use all of it's functionalities since I'm not a hardcore user, which is why I have decided to move on to something more straight forward.
Exported everything. Joplin seems to be working out best so far; Obsidian was good but not really what I needed. No need for Notion. EDIT good video btw, nice considerations. The whole subscription hike (not just Evernote) thing got me moved over to Linux and working out a DIY sync system. Not so hard once the decision was made.
Me also. Evernote becoming very expensive so I went over to using 'Joplin'. Joplin is good. The changeover was a pain-in-the-ass but quite straightforward.
Exporting to Zoho Notebook gave me the best experience. Encountered formatting issues with Obsidian and Joplin.
I've been a fan of Evernote since the start but my usage has declined over the last few years. Combine that with the huge price bump, I no longer find it a viable or valuable option. I'm trying to use the apps I have at my disposal so I've imported all my notes into Apple Notes. There's no subscription costs and I can collaborate on notes with my wife much easier than I could with Evernote or Craft. The only drawback with Apple Notes is the inability to add notes via email and the absence of a web clipper. Otherwise, it will meet my needs in the short term.
Sad where Evernote as a software and company is at now.
I've checked out some other options, but the OCR feature for PDFs and images is kinda limited in other apps, and it doesn't perform as smoothly. Honestly, Evernote seems a bit outdated to me, and the new owners don't really seem tuned in to what their paying users want - same goes for the old owners, to be honest. 🤷♂ It's like a golden opportunity for a talented coder to chat with us, the paying Evernote customers, and whip up a script that actually does what we need and works seamlessly. 🚀.
Moving to mac to be able to use Apple Notes (free) or possibly Bear ($20/yr). EN user since 2012, but cannot financially justify it any longer.
Not for me! I just returned and love it all over again. I've used it since 2009 and left last year for "greener pastures" but after checking out the New Evernote I'm loving the changes and happy to start contributing to its developement after being a freeloader for years.
A decade of Evernote. Now it’s finally enough. So much trouble and frustration. Little innovation. Now I’m at Apple Notes with 8000 notes.
Thank you for this. I’ve been an Evernote user since May 2008. It is hard to believe, but I feel like I have no other option. Your video did help a lot, however, where does notion fit into all of this? Is it in any way an alternative to Evernote. I use Evernote for scanning pdf with Scannable, searching inside pdf, taking text notes, and web clipping.
I am thinking of using Notion for notes, tasks, projects (PARA method, Ultimate brain setup), up note or day one journal for the simple text notes and also Notion (different database) for web clipping.
I just need something to search a pdf with keywords from inside the file, like in Evernote. Any ideas?
It's a shame. To me it was never about the price. It was the stability. But then something major went wrong. Syncing several devices went horrible, and I got tons and tons of notes there, with attachments. A decade worth of info. Additionally, Evernote locks you into their .enex proprietary format. Search became horrible. Tables visibility across devices was so bad. I invested time to export all my work and now am on Obsidian.
I migrated to Zoho Notebook which was seamless, and I've been very happy with it. I starting using Todoist to have more control over task scheduling and planning. Even with Pro plans for both, it's only about $70 a year.
I've noticed you've never mentioned what note apps you used. Maybe you should make a video about that. We are all curious.
OK, lots of folks are moving their notes, but I ha e yet to see anyone tell exactly how to do it?
I'm fully invested in Apple ecosystem. When my Evernote subscription is up, I will be cancelling it. I'm using Apple Notes more and more will be making the transition slowly.
Same here. I moved to bundled notes and Google keep for my daily journal and to do list's. Bundled notes is a good one even if you're a free user. The interface is pleasing and goes well on my amoled display.
We've not yet covered Bundled Notes.
@@toolfinderhq you should. Trust me. It's amazing ✨
I’m sad because I liked evernote. I’ve decided to move on and an in the process to moving to obsidian.
Share your Evernote opinions below! 👇
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Hi Francesco.. Thank you so much for your video. I have used Evernote for more than a decade and loved it. Since retiring I don't need all the bells and whistles; I just want somewhere to store my notes of sermons. As an Apple fan I have found that Apple Notes is ideal. Simple to use yet with a fair number of tools. Migrating my notes from Evernote is a problem as I seem to have been locked out of my old notes and just get a blank screen both on my iPhone and on my Mac (except for an opportunity to subscribe)!.
I have no issue for money... But how people react, how they try to switch and how Evernote increases the prices makes me think it's a very unstable company now and it has (and will have) financial issues, so I don't trust them anymore to keep my notes and stuff in it, they can shut down any time...
I am missing their super customer success manager for our business. Was always helpful and even triggered my team to work more with Evernote, being more productive at the end. Now we end up to be the cashcow for them. 50% more for Evernote Teams account. We will have to evaluate if it pays off in the future.
I hate bending spoons, and already moved to notion. It is better than evernote and did replace lots of services that I used to use and I'm very happy with it.
It is sad to see that evernote is struggling in their business model
Btw I'm used to a paid user but I'm very unhappy with their current plan where the only features I need is multiple devices sync
Over 10 years of intensive Evernote user - now I export all important notes. I now use Paperless-ngx for document management. 100 x faster, finds everything immediately, an optimal display - and it's all absolutely free on my home server (a Raspberry Pi ), which I can access as fast as an arrow via VPN when I'm on the move. Evernote can't keep up in this area.
it looks interresting. Does it allow advanced search syntax like EN ? I mean for example on EN I had tags like LabelOne, LabelTwo, LabelThree... and I can have a research like that, Label*, which call all notes tagged with LabelXXX...
I’ve been an Evernote paid user for a decade and finally leaved it for Apple Notes. No regrets… and free.
If you have just plain notes - leave, if you have various types of files combined with notes then stay.
I have tried all of them and Evernote is the only one that will store whatever you give it
What about Onenote? It is free and heavy
Yeah, a good one!
and slow. Zoho Notebook or UpNote is the best.
No BGM please, Francesco.
Can you run a survey to find out which apps people are using and to see where former Evernote users went?
I love "Notebook", "Agenda", and "Opus One" so far. All very similar in ways to Evernote.
I left! They locked it up and i had to try the trial to open i to get my precious notes. This i did & printed off all my notes. Then cancelled my free trial. I had to give my credi card to run the 7 day trial. I told them i would nevervuse their product again.
Great assessment. Both on deciding whether to stay and options. I left Evernote after 12 years as a paying subscriber. I went heavier with the PKM oriented Obsidian. Regarding Evernote, I found that I don't have any valuable use cases with AI enabled. As such, I simply will not pay a premium price for those features. However, the major part of the decision, and my reason to go through the pain of migrating tools, is that Bending Spoons have not given me a reason to trust them. They have nearly doubled my price. And then they have disabled exporting more than 100 notes, making it nearly impossible to "decide" to stay. Sorry, but from my perspective, this seems like a money grab, EVEN IF that wasn't their intention.
I just left for OneNote! Thanks for the great videos!!
I’m leaving moving to a selfhosted option
What do you mean at the 7:55 mark about being Apple promoted or Apple adopted? You also talk about being less community focused. I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean by these comments. Is Evernote intending to become an Apple exclusive app? And all companies want to have some element of community so what aspect of community do you see them trying to get away from? Are you trying to contrast being more mainstream with being more niche? I certainly think it's already pretty mainstream in terms of functionality but maybe not in terms of awareness.
Not trying to be challenging, but seeking to understand these comments because I think you've said something like this a few times related to Evernote so I'm trying to understand what you really are envisioning.
I'm leaving. degrading my service and up-charging me is not a path to success. So far I'm liking Obsidian.
Unfortunately, Evernote has literally catapulted itself back into the Stone Age with v10 of its client. Many of the basic functions of v6 have simply been omitted. But in return, the prices increase every year. I have rarely been so disappointed by a product.
@keepproductive what a horrible decision it was to stay with Evernote-
I can’t even get it to do anything as simple as allowing to create a widget on my Mac
& anything I share from my photos on various devices to webpages….pdfs etc-
Every time I get an error message, and all the devices are up-to-date, apps are up-to-date, I believe and reinstalled, restarted etc
DISASTER. And I’m paying for this like an idiot.
Well, I'm staying with EN but cancelled my pro subscription due to greedflation. Need to make do with Free plan.
I switched to Joplin but no way to export notes since on a free plan.
There is no alternative to Evernote - full stop. Notion, Obsidian, etc require you to build an Evernote capability before you can use it - other solutions just don’t offer the full package that Evernote does. Evernote has been improving. Innovation? No, I don’t AI to search my notes
Great trollin‘.
cant reactivate my Evernote account therfore cant export my notes. Help/Support is terrible
Didn't knew this now I'm f... k how can I get my notes 😮😢
Evernote was FORCED on me back when i had an HTC. I used the built in notetaking app and suddenly it said "notes is now Evernote!"
It was servicable for a while but it's turned into an absolute circus, every time i open a note i get bombarded with double ads that are so stupidly difficult to dismiss that i forget what note i was trying to take in the first place. Screw this app. More like Evernope.
I've been Evernote user since 2012, premium user since 2016 (I liked the plus version) and I stopped using it since version 10
It is not possible to understand why an application that reaches a high standard and fuctionality, people leave for an application of a lower standard and continue to suffer from development problems - masochistic people.
Goodbye Evernote after many years. I migrate to Joplin with sync over OneDrive. In the free edition of Evernote at last i only could export 100 notes.
I moved to Zoho the other day. It has everything I used on Evernote but for free and I can't afford to drop a hundred considering I paid $50 last year for the annual plan. Missing Ian Small lol
Zoho Notebook is a good one, interesting to hear!
@@toolfinderhqThey've actually been getting a decent amount of users coming from Evernote because they've been offering discount plans if you migrate from Evernote
I just permanently closed my evernote account due to that problem also always prompting about that premium
what they did to evernote is unacceptable. I have used evernote mainly to sort and scan my pdf documents, it had a great ocr, and i had my documents on my phone easy searchable. i will move to apple notes for this.
Zoho Notebook has an excellent migration tool! It was seamless!
I am sticking to it for it's integration with Read Wise. I know Notion gives that option as well. But the minor issue I have with Notion is that when I copy paste any thing with quotes around them , and paste it in the browser or notepad or word the output is not right. As I use Booleans a lot, that is a deal killer for me.
Joplin freeze with my database. Obsidian have almost nothing to deal with tags.
Too late. I switched a couple of months ago to Notion
I left last year. Evernote has nothing that other apps don’t have.
I already moved to UpNote ❤
"UpNote is developed by a team of 2 from Vietnam. "-- er no thanks.
Upnote is very fast, reliable , features complete .EN managed by a whole company from Italy is a customer -focused disaster (I’ve been customer for 12 years) , ripping your pockets , while UN costs less than 1$/ momth. Your comment is either based on ignorance or racism , I dont see the point (is Samsung from northamerica or in Korea ???
@@claudiopiga8843 two man band. I’m guessing you have never lived in Asia? I don’t really care what you think of my logic you want to risk your data fill yer boots….
Does Upnote do OCR? I think not.@@claudiopiga8843
I left last year after 11 years. So sad
Gone over to using the (quite good) 'Joplin'.
Note that the user can export their Evernote notebooks as '.enex' files. These files can then be imported into Joplin. Currently, it is working well.
I really like what Evernote has done with it's application and is great for that it is. I'm not staying because of their terrible terrible so terrible android experience. I'm sick of it and I really need it. So if they fix their incredible slow android app, I'll come back immediately.
If it’s a monthly charge it’s 12x more than you’re saying it is!
Heptabase is a pretty cool tool, it would be great to see a review from you!
their Android app is so bad that even the Back button isn't working properly. Pure garbage.
They still didn't fix that smh. It just closes your app
I left Evernote, and moved to Bear Notes.
How was the export/import experience? Lose any data switching to Bear? Like Bear so far?
@@swacsd Actually, I did not had any problem. There are restrictions by Evernote. You can't export multiple notebooks at once, or more than 100 notes (? not sure anymore). Otherwise, there were no issues. Also the attachments were exported without problem and added to the right notes. But I have to say, that most was text or attachments - and almost no tables. So I can't comment on that.
pricing is fucking stupid when compared to competitors.
The problem with Evernote is not its usefulness or functionality. That is great. The problem is that under the hood it’s a piece of tr@sh. It’s buggy, unreliable, annoying, and it can lose your data if you’re unlucky. And it locks you in! Export options are buggy and slow. Really bad experience.
"Keep Productive's channel leave or stay?" - Leave. Lost it's credibility obout independent objectivity over Evernote quite some time ago.
I'll stay on Evernote.
Only the search capabilities in several file types and the web clipper are worth the Premium plan. And that's "only" 100€ / year.
Notion isn't cheaper and don't offer the mentioned features at all. It's a tool for different purpose.
Onenote is a more comparable tool to Evernote, but not quite as good as Evernote.
I don't understand people who are switching to Joplin: It still feels like beta, not that feature rich, you have to take care of syncing or pay for Joplin Cloud. Even Apple Notes is far more clean and reliable than Joplin.
I tried all the mentioned tools -> always came back to Evernote!
Nevertheless, constantly trying to find the best tool and switch regurarely is the #1 productivity killer! Just stick to a tool and keep working!
bye bye Evernote! welcome alternatives! there are so many to choose from and way cheaper or free!
People should have left evernote YEARS ago.
wow its 2024 and some people are still using evernote?
I have already moved
Where did you move to?
@@toolfinderhq Noton. I miss the excellent note taking features of Evernote. But could integrate all resources in place.
Evernote is finished !!!
Evernote doesn't work anymore. Is unusable.
just too much tools around lol
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