The Heusinkveld Sprints I bought about two months ago might be literally the best product I've ever bought. I've had V3's before which failed me about on year into ownership, and while I know that they're not in the same price bracket, they Sprints are just worlds apart from Fanatecs. I can't recommend them enough. Superb feel of quality.
I have to agree on that, I really don't like the V3s (despite having worked for Fanatec). The law of diminishing returns is not in effect here. The Sprints cost twice as much as the V3s, but they are also twice as good and worth every penny over the V3s. There is a lack of decent pedal sets around the 350-400 $/€ price point in the market.
seeing this.. really helped me make the choice on the sprints.. i have v3 right now.. and just debating between the utlimates, sprints, and the bj racing and maca pedals.
I run the 3 pedal sprint setup, HE handbrake and shifter. All 3 are top notch. Those together with my VRS df pro and my FREX H pattern are what I consider to be the sweet spot in sim racing gear when trying to maximize performance within a realistic budget.
@26:50 True again. I have a friend (my first teammate in a GPL league actually) who raced a "spec racer" FF here on the west side of the pond. I asked him about the pedal travel between full release and full pressure on his own pedals, and he replied: 1/4 inch. And even that should imply the brake circuit needs a bleed, as brakes should compress down tight, unless all the compression of the various rubber parts has been accounted for. IMO, anyway. I think the rubber parts must have been the source of his pedal resistance...but we can't really do without them. Plus...it also makes it all the more the challenge. And all the more the fun. Great video, btw. Enjoying it minute by minute.
51:10 that is exactly one point (combinated with the pressure to force the pedal down, that make the sprint pedals very attractive for users who want to simulate a roadlegal car or a racecar in a sim) where the super high end pedals, like the invicta, are much to conservative. for f1 users and gt3 cars lovers, you can arrange them, but it feels more like sitting at the gym than in a real race car, because in a realistic car the g-force helps you to create a more sensitive/sensible feeling of the force you need. and for those people who never had the possibility to sit in a real race car or rallye car, you could easily understand it if you buy a taxi lap or ask a race driver for a ride in his rocket. with the sprint you are able to simulate a wide range of cars... but feel free to make your own choice. peace!!! and thanks for the video. very cool!!!
This is really cool and interesting! I've had the Pros, Sprints and now Ultimates with the SQ shifter & handbrake, and absolutely love em! Looking forward to new products
soon they are going to release an new set of ultimates called ultimate+ however they are going to also sell an upgrade kit for you to bring your older ultimates up to par.
Most enjoyable interview for me. I watched to find out more about the pedals but I think the best part is when Neils was talking about the air bubbles in the brake lines of his ST ( slow turd). That really got me laughing.
@5:40 to 6:30: IMO too, it is true that people--perhaps even most people--and even many people in sim-racing too, equate pedal softness and travel in what they want from sim pedals to what they typically feel in their own road cars. No surprise really, as that is the range of their experience. Most (North American) SUV's, for example, are equipped these days with power assisted brakes, which allow long travel for short modulation of the actual braking power...because most people simply no longer have, or can even glean what it feels like to be in direct contact with their brakes, and their discs. Which is rather odd too, if you think about it, because, and even though many sim-racers now have moved to load-cell pedals, they almost want to revert to their own experiences with the old "pot-travel-rotation" pedals. Even many sim-racers seem to want to go back...to the old days.
That has been a hard habit to break when it come to the brake pedal feel. I'm still not all the way there. I been progressively making it stiffer trying to re-train my brain lol
@ 7:20 (Niels): [...] "while pressing ninety kilos on the brake" [...]. This is exactly right, or was, at least, in racing cars back in the day before power assists. Racing School instructors used to say "students don't realize, at first, how HARD they have to press on the brakes to maximize stopping power, or to even lock them up. It takes a while for them to learn it." And in those days there were almost no power assists. For racing drivers, who are often of smaller stature, to manifest enough physical strength to press the brakes hard enough to get the most out of them took real work. Which is part of why drivers like Niki Lauda were so much into fitness and diet, etc.
I have sprints, but mounted them inverted, fortunately the clutch wire plugs into the throttle side and the throttle into the clutch side of the circuit board. The shortness of the wires is a small issue when coming to spacing out the pedals for my own personal comfort. The calibration tool is super easy to use, but because of the inverted installation the clutch is seen as throttle and throttle seen as clutch, no biggie just have to engage brain a little when it came to calibration, obviously no issue in a game, just press whatever pedal corresponds to input binding. But, would be good if the tool had an "inverted" button. The sprints were a huge, and I mean massively huge improvement over the Fanatec V2 I was using with a very noticeable improvement is driving on Dirt 2.0. Fantastic product.
Hey Trevor, if you recalibrate in SmartControl and press the throttle and clutch when it asks you to and complete all of the steps, it will assign the throttle to the "clutch port" and visa versa.
Hi Trevor, not sure if you are aware but the Sprints use an RJ9 connection. In my case I wanted to mount the brake and gas pedal farther apart so I bough an RJ9 headset extension cord female to male 25.5cm long (brandname VoiceJoy) and I was able to extend the coords. It's not optimum but it works, I used masking tape to make sure the connection won't come loose. Maybe it will help you too.
Sprints? Go buy them. The way I understood Niels was "maybe in 2-3 years there will be a v2 that's easier to adjust" or something. Shouldn't keep you from buying them now.
@@TheSimChannel awesome, thanks for the quick replies. Wish I had messaged u ages ago when I first watched this video! Just literally ordered them…already had the simlab heel plate and their Sprints bolt set sitting in my house since January lol. Had to select express delivery for that reason lol!!!!
Well, I bought the Handbrake this year :D :D Anyway, I have the Sprints, Handbrake and Seq shifter. I would buy an H Shifter as well. I tried the SHH shifter, have a Fanatec wheel. Although there are similar products, I usually like to go with HE, because they are close, so in case something breaks, shipping is quick and cheap. Also, everything is very open and easy to work on, which I appreciate most.
@16:50 to @20:20 A clutch pedal can, indeed, require longer or shorter throws or feel, but the basics of a clutch, at least on a car from the sixties, seventies or eighties (Niels will know all of those), are such that, as the clutch plates gradually disengage from one another, the "feel" under the pedal and the force necessary to disengage the clutch plates from one another does, indeed, decrease, and it does, indeed, reach a point where the driver realizes it's gone "light"...but the pedal travel does NOT go suddenly lighter...and further. With a real world clutch there is no sudden "drop-off" which leaves the driver feeling he's pushing his pedal off into thin air, four thousand feet above the cornice he's just punched through. The reason the clutch plates go light in the first place is because the throw-off bearing has increased pressure and thrust on the clutch leaf-springs themselves. So they trade off, one against the other, and the pressure curve goes flat, but the pedal to throw off bearing pressure is still, even once the plates have disengaged. IMO.
Depends on the clutch. All the cable and mechanical linkage clutches I've used absolutely have a maximum peak pressure range somewhere in the middle of the travel, and are noticeably "softer" at the end of travel than the middle. The hydraulic clutches I've used, I feel this is still somewhat true, but it's not nearly as obvious.
I love my sprints but can’t get feel to them still. Coming from Logitech muscle memory and having brake that feels like brake is amazing. I am using the stock rubbers ? I struggle in trail braking by rolling the rubber adjuster then re calibrate does this effect how the peddle will relate in games.
@@TheSimChannel sry lol i just read it my self hahah it was like 4 am when i seen this vid. what i have a problem with is in iracing i lock up heaps and i find trail braking very hard with the sprints as when i put my foot on the pedal it feels like i am not getting over my pedal and when i try and release it slowly i do it to much. i am using the standard rubber but i have played with the spring setting just turned it slighly to take some of the pre load. is there a way to give the pedal more softer feel so i can modulate and trail brake easier.
@@MrFrosty888 You can try a few different things mechanically, like removing the spring, putting in all the rubber pieces you can make fit (with and without the spring). Have you tried driving with shoes on (see my vid from a week earlier)? Maybe your shoe soles are too thick and you don't get enough of a feeling for your brake pressure. Or your shoes are fine, but you have only recently switched to using shoes? It took me a little while to get used to it when I first got the HE Pro pedals. Or maybe your Sprints are not well set up ergonomically. Does your heel stay on or near the base plate when you push the brake (left foot braking)? Then there's also the option that it's software related. Have you tried other sims / other cars in iR? Have you tried different curves in the brake profile? Although my advice would be to use a linear setting for the brake, at least for ACC, AC, etc.
@@TheSimChannel i race with no shoes on mate and and my heal does not stay down when pushing on the pedal face and i find i have not much travel even afetr i take some pre load of the brake spring. is there a way to get more travel on the pedal it self?
for me i think i dont mind more travel as i can manage it with my left foot as i brake with left foot. what i struggle so much is the brake feels so hard and i have to push so hard n then when i release it i lose so much time on my laps and car starts to twich because of it. most of a lap time is not just getting on the brake but how one come off it and thats my problem i think cheers
I don't know! I'm not sure though whether that would make a notable difference? I'd say it would only make a difference if you're using a very small range for the pedals (up to 10kg or so), if at all.
@@TheSimChannel Now there is the fashion of 16 bits and 65000 steps in other manufacturers, these sell us that there is much more precision and difference compared to 12 bits, now what you say may make sense too, but in more steps will not always be better detail in load cell?
@@tus_hobbys_son_los_mios I just checked, the Pros are 12 bit, not sure about the Sprints right now. But: the 12 bits on the Pros should be enough for all intents and purposes.The steps in between aren't really noticable :)
I have made my sprint pedals inverted the leads are not long enough to reach. Is there Any way to change the setting in the software to reverse the outputs from the rj connectors. Thanks nils
I'm not up to date on the prices for used Pros in Austria, but the Pros are still a good pedal set today (much better than anything Fanatec or Thrustmaster for example). 500 Austrian dollars is like 300 EUR so that does indeed sound like a good price if the set is in decent condition. Software wise there's "DI View" (I think that was the name), you should find documentation on it on the Heusinkveld website. It's not the same as for the Sprint and Ultimate+, doesn't look at nice, but you set it and forget it.
Some charge a lot of money for a 16 bit brake, just a ridiculous amount of money, a 32 or 64 bit would be appropriate to control the distance of a brake etc
@@eddybouh2079 The way I understood the question was whether the board will be integrated into the brake pedal in the Ultimates 1.5. And the answer to that is most likely no ;-)
@@TheSimChannel I see a question on ultimate 1.5 and V2, not brake pedal. seems to me at 1:09:30 he's saying that the new bearings, PCB and software are features of the 1.5 and also that it will be possible to purchase the PCB if we already have ultimates.
You could used cast iron or aluminium bronze both have a hight wear resistance e.g. hand planes from Lie Nielsen are made of aluminium bronze. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_bronze
I think HE is constantly improving the pedals little by little. Also, VRS won't be able to push out the same number of pedals that HE does, so from an economical point of view, there's no need to panic for HE. We also don't know about reliability, service quality, etc. on the side of VRS yet, so it's hard to tell if the VRS pedals are the better overall package. That being said, I loved the VRS pedals at the sim racing expo, and I'd be happy to see a real competitor to Heusinkveld in the market. Have you seen a review of them yet?
Niel should make a short harness so that the sprints can plug into the DD wheel so that fanatec can worry about the licenses with Sony. So badly want the pedals to work on console as well. Csl DD with a set of sprints would be awesome. Fanatec just can't make pedals. Should stick to wheels.
He just talks about the development of the pedals and what lessons were learned between the pros and these. It’s all very interesting and provides a lot of insight into what goes into high quality pedals. If you have time to watch the video it’s worth it as the content cannot be summarized effectively.
A shame us ppl with the pro's will still have to use a 20 yr old program and a calculator and cannot be upgraded to the new software its like a kick in the guts. Wonder if HE will have a trade in period 1 day for the pro users to upgrade to the new sprints at a discount price? As most pro users have bought this product many yrs ago and supported HE before they became so popular with the new sprints.
If you buy a car and after a few years a new model comes out, you probably wouldn't complain that you can't retro-fit the new infotainment system into your car? It would be unreasonable to expect that a company puts a lot of development time and money into retro-fitting new technology in a discontinued product. The availability of the Sprints doesn't make your Pros any worse.
if you bought your pro's the week before the sprint release I can see how it feels like a kick in the guts, but I'm not gonna ask samsung to take back my old screen and give me a discount on their latest model.... and I don't know what is "low end" for you. just try the T150 pedals and come back tell me your pros are low end....
The Heusinkveld Sprints I bought about two months ago might be literally the best product I've ever bought. I've had V3's before which failed me about on year into ownership, and while I know that they're not in the same price bracket, they Sprints are just worlds apart from Fanatecs. I can't recommend them enough. Superb feel of quality.
I have to agree on that, I really don't like the V3s (despite having worked for Fanatec). The law of diminishing returns is not in effect here. The Sprints cost twice as much as the V3s, but they are also twice as good and worth every penny over the V3s. There is a lack of decent pedal sets around the 350-400 $/€ price point in the market.
seeing this.. really helped me make the choice on the sprints.. i have v3 right now.. and just debating between the utlimates, sprints, and the bj racing and maca pedals.
I run the 3 pedal sprint setup, HE handbrake and shifter. All 3 are top notch. Those together with my VRS df pro and my FREX H pattern are what I consider to be the sweet spot in sim racing gear when trying to maximize performance within a realistic budget.
i love my frex h pattern.. my favorite part of my kit probably
@26:50 True again. I have a friend (my first teammate in a GPL league actually) who raced a "spec racer" FF here on the west side of the pond. I asked him about the pedal travel between full release and full pressure on his own pedals, and he replied: 1/4 inch. And even that should imply the brake circuit needs a bleed, as brakes should compress down tight, unless all the compression of the various rubber parts has been accounted for. IMO, anyway. I think the rubber parts must have been the source of his pedal resistance...but we can't really do without them. Plus...it also makes it all the more the challenge. And all the more the fun.
Great video, btw. Enjoying it minute by minute.
51:10 that is exactly one point (combinated with the pressure to force the pedal down, that make the sprint pedals very attractive for users who want to simulate a roadlegal car or a racecar in a sim) where the super high end pedals, like the invicta, are much to conservative. for f1 users and gt3 cars lovers, you can arrange them, but it feels more like sitting at the gym than in a real race car, because in a realistic car the g-force helps you to create a more sensitive/sensible feeling of the force you need. and for those people who never had the possibility to sit in a real race car or rallye car, you could easily understand it if you buy a taxi lap or ask a race driver for a ride in his rocket. with the sprint you are able to simulate a wide range of cars... but feel free to make your own choice. peace!!! and thanks for the video. very cool!!!
This is really cool and interesting! I've had the Pros, Sprints and now Ultimates with the SQ shifter & handbrake, and absolutely love em! Looking forward to new products
soon they are going to release an new set of ultimates called ultimate+ however they are going to also sell an upgrade kit for you to bring your older ultimates up to par.
Most enjoyable interview for me. I watched to find out more about the pedals but I think the best part is when Neils was talking about the air bubbles in the brake lines of his ST ( slow turd). That really got me laughing.
@5:40 to 6:30: IMO too, it is true that people--perhaps even most people--and even many people in sim-racing too, equate pedal softness and travel in what they want from sim pedals to what they typically feel in their own road cars. No surprise really, as that is the range of their experience. Most (North American) SUV's, for example, are equipped these days with power assisted brakes, which allow long travel for short modulation of the actual braking power...because most people simply no longer have, or can even glean what it feels like to be in direct contact with their brakes, and their discs. Which is rather odd too, if you think about it, because, and even though many sim-racers now have moved to load-cell pedals, they almost want to revert to their own experiences with the old "pot-travel-rotation" pedals. Even many sim-racers seem to want to go back...to the old days.
That has been a hard habit to break when it come to the brake pedal feel. I'm still not all the way there. I been progressively making it stiffer trying to re-train my brain lol
I can breathe now ☹️
Good interview, what Niels is telling us is always interesting.
@ 7:20 (Niels): [...] "while pressing ninety kilos on the brake" [...]. This is exactly right, or was, at least, in racing cars back in the day before power assists. Racing School instructors used to say "students don't realize, at first, how HARD they have to press on the brakes to maximize stopping power, or to even lock them up. It takes a while for them to learn it."
And in those days there were almost no power assists. For racing drivers, who are often of smaller stature, to manifest enough physical strength to press the brakes hard enough to get the most out of them took real work. Which is part of why drivers like Niki Lauda were so much into fitness and diet, etc.
51:01 yes please, I'd love to see a video about it.
I have sprints, but mounted them inverted, fortunately the clutch wire plugs into the throttle side and the throttle into the clutch side of the circuit board. The shortness of the wires is a small issue when coming to spacing out the pedals for my own personal comfort. The calibration tool is super easy to use, but because of the inverted installation the clutch is seen as throttle and throttle seen as clutch, no biggie just have to engage brain a little when it came to calibration, obviously no issue in a game, just press whatever pedal corresponds to input binding. But, would be good if the tool had an "inverted" button. The sprints were a huge, and I mean massively huge improvement over the Fanatec V2 I was using with a very noticeable improvement is driving on Dirt 2.0. Fantastic product.
Hey Trevor, if you recalibrate in SmartControl and press the throttle and clutch when it asks you to and complete all of the steps, it will assign the throttle to the "clutch port" and visa versa.
helping each other out, I like it!
Hi Trevor, not sure if you are aware but the Sprints use an RJ9 connection. In my case I wanted to mount the brake and gas pedal farther apart so I bough an RJ9 headset extension cord female to male 25.5cm long (brandname VoiceJoy) and I was able to extend the coords. It's not optimum but it works, I used masking tape to make sure the connection won't come loose. Maybe it will help you too.
@@dubhee great info thank you
Well it’s been a year , time for a follow up session 😊
Why is the pro brakes put together backwards. Spring should be at the front.
Anymore info on a possible release date for new sprint pedals? Was just about to buy v1s until I saw this video? Thanks
Sprints? Go buy them. The way I understood Niels was "maybe in 2-3 years there will be a v2 that's easier to adjust" or something. Shouldn't keep you from buying them now.
@@TheSimChannel ahh i thought he saying this year Sprints 1.5 will release...
@@El_Rebel88 no, the Ultimates will get a 1.5 version, not the sprints.
@@TheSimChannel awesome, thanks for the quick replies. Wish I had messaged u ages ago when I first watched this video! Just literally ordered them…already had the simlab heel plate and their Sprints bolt set sitting in my house since January lol. Had to select express delivery for that reason lol!!!!
Well, I bought the Handbrake this year :D :D Anyway, I have the Sprints, Handbrake and Seq shifter. I would buy an H Shifter as well. I tried the SHH shifter, have a Fanatec wheel. Although there are similar products, I usually like to go with HE, because they are close, so in case something breaks, shipping is quick and cheap. Also, everything is very open and easy to work on, which I appreciate most.
Niels have you ever thought of designing some rubbers to place over the top of your pedal plates on your pedals?
@16:50 to @20:20 A clutch pedal can, indeed, require longer or shorter throws or feel, but the basics of a clutch, at least on a car from the sixties, seventies or eighties (Niels will know all of those), are such that, as the clutch plates gradually disengage from one another, the "feel" under the pedal and the force necessary to disengage the clutch plates from one another does, indeed, decrease, and it does, indeed, reach a point where the driver realizes it's gone "light"...but the pedal travel does NOT go suddenly lighter...and further. With a real world clutch there is no sudden "drop-off" which leaves the driver feeling he's pushing his pedal off into thin air, four thousand feet above the cornice he's just punched through. The reason the clutch plates go light in the first place is because the throw-off bearing has increased pressure and thrust on the clutch leaf-springs themselves. So they trade off, one against the other, and the pressure curve goes flat, but the pedal to throw off bearing pressure is still, even once the plates have disengaged. IMO.
Depends on the clutch. All the cable and mechanical linkage clutches I've used absolutely have a maximum peak pressure range somewhere in the middle of the travel, and are noticeably "softer" at the end of travel than the middle. The hydraulic clutches I've used, I feel this is still somewhat true, but it's not nearly as obvious.
I love my sprints but can’t get feel to them still. Coming from Logitech muscle memory and having brake that feels like brake is amazing. I am using the stock rubbers ? I struggle in trail braking by rolling the rubber adjuster then re calibrate does this effect how the peddle will relate in games.
I wanna answer but I don't fully understand your question. Can you rephrase it?
@@TheSimChannel sry lol i just read it my self hahah it was like 4 am when i seen this vid. what i have a problem with is in iracing i lock up heaps and i find trail braking very hard with the sprints as when i put my foot on the pedal it feels like i am not getting over my pedal and when i try and release it slowly i do it to much. i am using the standard rubber but i have played with the spring setting just turned it slighly to take some of the pre load. is there a way to give the pedal more softer feel so i can modulate and trail brake easier.
@@MrFrosty888 You can try a few different things mechanically, like removing the spring, putting in all the rubber pieces you can make fit (with and without the spring). Have you tried driving with shoes on (see my vid from a week earlier)? Maybe your shoe soles are too thick and you don't get enough of a feeling for your brake pressure. Or your shoes are fine, but you have only recently switched to using shoes? It took me a little while to get used to it when I first got the HE Pro pedals. Or maybe your Sprints are not well set up ergonomically. Does your heel stay on or near the base plate when you push the brake (left foot braking)?
Then there's also the option that it's software related. Have you tried other sims / other cars in iR? Have you tried different curves in the brake profile? Although my advice would be to use a linear setting for the brake, at least for ACC, AC, etc.
@@TheSimChannel i race with no shoes on mate and and my heal does not stay down when pushing on the pedal face and i find i have not much travel even afetr i take some pre load of the brake spring. is there a way to get more travel on the pedal it self?
for me i think i dont mind more travel as i can manage it with my left foot as i brake with left foot. what i struggle so much is the brake feels so hard and i have to push so hard n then when i release it i lose so much time on my laps and car starts to twich because of it. most of a lap time is not just getting on the brake but how one come off it and thats my problem i think cheers
one question, the electronic sprints has improved in bits and steps of 12 or 16 bits?
I don't know! I'm not sure though whether that would make a notable difference? I'd say it would only make a difference if you're using a very small range for the pedals (up to 10kg or so), if at all.
@@TheSimChannel Now there is the fashion of 16 bits and 65000 steps in other manufacturers, these sell us that there is much more precision and difference compared to 12 bits, now what you say may make sense too, but in more steps will not always be better detail in load cell?
@@tus_hobbys_son_los_mios I just checked, the Pros are 12 bit, not sure about the Sprints right now. But: the 12 bits on the Pros should be enough for all intents and purposes.The steps in between aren't really noticable :)
I have made my sprint pedals inverted the leads are not long enough to reach. Is there Any way to change the setting in the software to reverse the outputs from the rj connectors. Thanks nils
Should i be buying a used set of Pro's in 2024? They are $500 aud. What software do i use to calibrate and adjust them?
I'm not up to date on the prices for used Pros in Austria, but the Pros are still a good pedal set today (much better than anything Fanatec or Thrustmaster for example). 500 Austrian dollars is like 300 EUR so that does indeed sound like a good price if the set is in decent condition.
Software wise there's "DI View" (I think that was the name), you should find documentation on it on the Heusinkveld website. It's not the same as for the Sprint and Ultimate+, doesn't look at nice, but you set it and forget it.
Cool, very interesting!
Great stuff, thanks
Some charge a lot of money for a 16 bit brake, just a ridiculous amount of money, a 32 or 64 bit would be appropriate to control the distance of a brake etc
Niels, whatsup with smartcontrole for the ultimates?
1:07:24
and for the pro
@@boinaptuk they are a very old pedal. dont expect anything for the pros
@@EnzoFazzi where is the handbrake image he talked about ?
@@brodeur212 idk ;)
Where is t he handbrake leak ?
It isn't hydraulic so it can't leak... ;-)
So what the PRO'S are low end now sprints have arrived ?
Will the HE Ultimate v1.5 have the PCB integrated or will we have to wait for the v2 for that?
I don't know for sure but since he said it will be available as an upgrade to the v1 as well, I think it'll most likely be an external circuit board.
yes 1:09:00 1:09:35 or I got it wrong
@@eddybouh2079 The way I understood the question was whether the board will be integrated into the brake pedal in the Ultimates 1.5. And the answer to that is most likely no ;-)
@@TheSimChannel I see a question on ultimate 1.5 and V2, not brake pedal. seems to me at 1:09:30 he's saying that the new bearings, PCB and software are features of the 1.5 and also that it will be possible to purchase the PCB if we already have ultimates.
@@TheSimChannel And thats also what I meant ;)
Simforge MARK-1
You could used cast iron or aluminium bronze both have a hight wear resistance e.g. hand planes from Lie Nielsen are made of aluminium bronze.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_bronze
2.0 pls black color 👍
Considering the VRS Pedals is pretty much a cheaper and better Ultimate version i guess HE will have to improve their pedals.
I think HE is constantly improving the pedals little by little. Also, VRS won't be able to push out the same number of pedals that HE does, so from an economical point of view, there's no need to panic for HE. We also don't know about reliability, service quality, etc. on the side of VRS yet, so it's hard to tell if the VRS pedals are the better overall package. That being said, I loved the VRS pedals at the sim racing expo, and I'd be happy to see a real competitor to Heusinkveld in the market.
Have you seen a review of them yet?
@1:19:00 Niels should just dump the shitbox Ford and buy a Porsche 718 with a manual transmission ;)
Niel should make a short harness so that the sprints can plug into the DD wheel so that fanatec can worry about the licenses with Sony. So badly want the pedals to work on console as well. Csl DD with a set of sprints would be awesome. Fanatec just can't make pedals. Should stick to wheels.
Too long didnt watch, so whats the conclusion?
Which is better?
He just talks about the development of the pedals and what lessons were learned between the pros and these. It’s all very interesting and provides a lot of insight into what goes into high quality pedals. If you have time to watch the video it’s worth it as the content cannot be summarized effectively.
The sprints are the successor to the pros so thus superior in many ways
A shame us ppl with the pro's will still have to use a 20 yr old program and a calculator and cannot be upgraded to the new software its like a kick in the guts. Wonder if HE will have a trade in period 1 day for the pro users to upgrade to the new sprints at a discount price? As most pro users have bought this product many yrs ago and supported HE before they became so popular with the new sprints.
If you buy a car and after a few years a new model comes out, you probably wouldn't complain that you can't retro-fit the new infotainment system into your car? It would be unreasonable to expect that a company puts a lot of development time and money into retro-fitting new technology in a discontinued product. The availability of the Sprints doesn't make your Pros any worse.
if you bought your pro's the week before the sprint release I can see how it feels like a kick in the guts, but I'm not gonna ask samsung to take back my old screen and give me a discount on their latest model.... and I don't know what is "low end" for you. just try the T150 pedals and come back tell me your pros are low end....
That annoying door hinge.
behind Niels?