Shaq beefed with Bill Walton because he doesn't believe Walton's on his level

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  • @SecretBaseSBN
    @SecretBaseSBN  ปีที่แล้ว +990

    seth back

    • @notdudleezy
      @notdudleezy ปีที่แล้ว +75

      SETH BACK🗣️‼️

    • @bignoob24
      @bignoob24 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      seth back 😊

    • @maralorca6518
      @maralorca6518 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Seth back... to the Mavs for the 3rd time 😂

    • @pimpdaddyc7066
      @pimpdaddyc7066 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Pls don't leave

    • @br__uh
      @br__uh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YESSS

  • @camnovak4405
    @camnovak4405 ปีที่แล้ว +3706

    My takeaway from every beef history involving Shaq is the same: big fella is super sensitive and insecure even though he’s accomplished so much in his career

    • @synapse913
      @synapse913 ปีที่แล้ว +294

      Shaq is such an emotional lesbian.

    • @sidhartabuenos7939
      @sidhartabuenos7939 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Very much so

    • @Ccthomas-ks1hn
      @Ccthomas-ks1hn ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Lol pretty much. Dudes a man child

    • @KOCChristian
      @KOCChristian ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@synapse913lmao wow did you come up with that 😂 like that joke has never been said thousand of time

    • @HenryIceman117
      @HenryIceman117 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Too much ego, the greatest greats don't need to tell everyone they're great.

  • @deifiedtitan
    @deifiedtitan ปีที่แล้ว +4132

    Shaq’s such a strange character. Very charitable and philanthropic, by all accounts a decent man to most people. Yet so wildly insecure and defensive he’ll essentially bully people until he feels safe.

    • @KOCChristian
      @KOCChristian ปีที่แล้ว +381

      He’s a big child he’s quick to his emotions, if you read about Shaq you would know he’ll been much worst without his stepfather. Shaq is good guy but he lets his emotions take over.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Shaq is nuanced.

    • @Desmo25
      @Desmo25 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      Which is exactly why Kobe hated him because instead of trying to improve himself he’d chill and not try until playoffs come.

    • @GiveMeYourFACE9089
      @GiveMeYourFACE9089 ปีที่แล้ว +243

      His philanthropy, no matter how well intentioned and/or helpful, is no doubt fueled by a desire to make himself look better.

    • @scarfaceplays6297
      @scarfaceplays6297 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      He's a 50 year old child period. 😂

  • @TheCheesesteak44
    @TheCheesesteak44 ปีที่แล้ว +1752

    "Shaq's arrogance is an insult to people who think" is damn near poetic lol.

    • @jwyh4162
      @jwyh4162 ปีที่แล้ว +173

      Shaq is gonna watch this vid. And then he's gonna have beef with Beef History.

    • @ryanlittle3165
      @ryanlittle3165 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      had to write this one down fr😂

    • @WhatUpRob
      @WhatUpRob ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The illest thing in this video lol

    • @fredflux2738
      @fredflux2738 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Shocking- but Shaq punched above his weight with Bill.

    • @MasterE131
      @MasterE131 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@jwyh4162😂

  • @Zamppa86
    @Zamppa86 ปีที่แล้ว +806

    I just want to remind people that Bill Walton did not just 'sit at the end of the bench' in Boston when they won the '86 championship. He played 80 games during the regular season and 16 games during the playoffs, 19 minutes per game during the regular season and 18 minutes per game during the playoffs. Bill Walton also won the 6th man trophy during that very same season.

    • @KClouisville
      @KClouisville ปีที่แล้ว +124

      Yeah, they definitely underplayed how good he was for that Celtics team....he actually took a great, championship team, to a new level. Things don't always show up in stats....if you watched that team Walton could seal up the paint on defense and when he was in the ball movement and flow of the offense was a thing of beauty.

    • @ravinodyab7725
      @ravinodyab7725 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks for the context

    • @dnx112
      @dnx112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hatem

    • @Boofbonic
      @Boofbonic ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Exactly, I mean the dude was 7ft tall in the 70s where these guy were pretty much forced to play through all sorts of injuries, its no wonder he was only able to fully play 2 seasons of his career and won both a FMVP and a Reg MVP in both those years. That MVP alone makes him an all time great player/hall of famer. But him being top 75 I can understand not liking though.

    • @siircartiier
      @siircartiier ปีที่แล้ว +4

      hell yea bill walton the most high

  • @jeanpayano1506
    @jeanpayano1506 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    R.I.P Mr Walton sometimes we get caught up in petty arguments instead of coming together.

    • @vinicbeber
      @vinicbeber 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Shaq acknowledged their beef in the farewell message to the passing of Walton on TNT

    • @drewengel7073
      @drewengel7073 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@vinicbeber And he was still pushing their beef days before and even after Walton died.

    • @codg3484
      @codg3484 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vinicbeberShaq didn’t acknowledge Walton’s legacy, he was making it about himself

    • @adamjuarez6498
      @adamjuarez6498 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Tell shaq that same thing he did with kobe and it was too late when you want to squash the beef

  • @ianAEF
    @ianAEF ปีที่แล้ว +756

    It’s amazing how everyone of Shaq’s beefs are with someone that admired him and wished for his best. Dude took the sentence “don’t meet your idols” to heart.

    • @lovinv08
      @lovinv08 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't think of that crazy

    • @KClouisville
      @KClouisville ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Because he's one of those people who's fine with you as long as you agree with everything he says and does and tell him what he wants to hear.....the minute you don't he goes into toddler mode. He's always been like that and still is really.

    • @ianAEF
      @ianAEF ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@KClouisville I think sometimes that's not even the case. Like Dwight Howard was a real fan of Shaq, had him as his idol and modelled his play after him, and when people pointed some similarities and said the word "superman", Shaq just went ballistic on the dude, taking away from whatever he did. Javale was similar too, Shaq just went after the guy for being a big that wasn't a star like him. It feels kinda sad actually, imagine getting into the league to have your idol bash you constantly and you're not even that bad.

    • @Stej-i7m
      @Stej-i7m ปีที่แล้ว +3

      At least he only beefs with big men though, outside of Kobe and maybe small things with other teammates that aren't long lasting, I only hear about Shaq having long term beef with other bigs. Dwight thought he was doing a cool tribute with his superman dunks and Shaq took that as a challenge to one of his nicknames, then there's Bill Walton obviously, Javale McGee

    • @lovinv08
      @lovinv08 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Stej-i7m penny

  • @GCInc.
    @GCInc. ปีที่แล้ว +821

    Shaq is clearly a Beef Hall of Famer he might need his own playlist at this point

    • @KWCline91
      @KWCline91 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      GBE: Greatest Beefer Ever!

    • @insuchaway
      @insuchaway ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Dude...the Beef HOF is a definite playlist.

    • @DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly
      @DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The way he dose tv interviews just to talk beef is so crazy, most of the other BH vids feel like newspaper clippings and here say

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wilt had his fair share of beefs as well. The two biggest guys but two of the most insecure of the top tier greats. He always hated on Kareem, Russell, MJ, Magic, and a few others. No disrespect to Big Dipper tho. He’s still the man. RIP.

    • @zackbennett5609
      @zackbennett5609 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Him and Sir Charles are mad trash talkers almost to the point of being haters

  • @Enthusiast230
    @Enthusiast230 ปีที่แล้ว +1831

    Shaq telling Walton to respect his elders is wild, considering Bill hooped professionally before Shaq was even born 😂

    • @thebestcentaur
      @thebestcentaur ปีที่แล้ว +107

      That absolutely sounds like something Shaq would say 😂😂😂

    • @cronoros
      @cronoros ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Shaq telling anyone to respect anyone is wild 😂

    • @kylethomas2993
      @kylethomas2993 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Walton was drafted 2 years after Shaq was born

    • @smoothjb2384
      @smoothjb2384 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I remember when little Shaq was just a swimming in my sack waiting to get out and grab a basketball. He wasn’t super skilled didn’t have to work hard he was just physically bigger and badder than everyone. If he woulda had a good work ethic been decent at free throws imagine he woulda been that much more dominant

    • @RKWDBMX
      @RKWDBMX ปีที่แล้ว

      Shaq is such a clown

  • @johnsherman4035
    @johnsherman4035 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Bill Walton had an incredible run in Portland and another amazing comeback with Boston. Add sixth man award to his career. That in and of itself is a great accomplishment. Shaq's beef was from Walton saying nicely that he needed to loose weight which is true. Shaq looked like a whale at the end of his career.

    • @canalesworks1247
      @canalesworks1247 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's all Kobe was saying too.

    • @stevelundt6498
      @stevelundt6498 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bill Walton should not be in the HOF. he was good 3 seasons out of “ahem” 10. Never averaged over 20 pts. No way is he a 75 anniversary team player.

    • @joshuachang5210
      @joshuachang5210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@stevelundt6498Peak precedes longevity, and as a top 5 passing big of all time, top 10 defender all time, and giving you about 18 points, Walton has a top 20-30 peak in league history. Think bill russell with a better offensive impact.

    • @J-Bravo416
      @J-Bravo416 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did he win 6man of the year averaging 8 points a game. Sounds like a hoax

  • @highhillroland6918
    @highhillroland6918 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    He has shown over and over on TBS that he is not that intelligent. Maybe that is the issue, Bill was very smart.

  • @DynastyIcon
    @DynastyIcon ปีที่แล้ว +858

    I know Shaq has been in a few "beef history" episodes, but I wasn't expecting one with Bill Walton 😂

    • @kylebenbow431
      @kylebenbow431 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      We get all Shaq's beef except his one with Kobe (RIP)

    • @kenrickkahn
      @kenrickkahn ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@kylebenbow431 I know Shaq can get carried away with his sensitivity but Kobe (R.I.P) was very wrong in that beef..

    • @kylebenbow431
      @kylebenbow431 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@kenrickkahn A lot of ego + a very bad police interrogation = disaster. Could be a 2 parter. At the very least, they made peace later in life and recognized each of their wrongs.

    • @PIP...33
      @PIP...33 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kylebenbow431 REAL BEEF WAS DURING 50 GOAT !! WALTON SAID : SHAQ IS ONLY 3 YEARS IN NBA , DOMINIQUE IS 15 YEARS !! THAT SAME NIGHT WALTON TOLD EVERYONE SHAQ AND MJ ARE GREAT IN 90S ERA BUT WILT CHAMBERLAIN IS ONLY GUY IN THIS CEREMONY WHOS GOAT AND EVERYONE IN THE ROOM KNOWS THAT WHEN HE ENTER.

    • @youngblood4127
      @youngblood4127 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Walton was absolutely the better overall player:

  • @whatwelearned
    @whatwelearned ปีที่แล้ว +890

    No-one can argue that Shaq is the most insecure centre of all time

    • @davidprice4777
      @davidprice4777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AMEN

    • @Trxllz
      @Trxllz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      100%

    • @aleksjamnik5360
      @aleksjamnik5360 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Yeah wilt pretty close tho

    • @acpliego
      @acpliego ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@aleksjamnik5360definitely

    • @jayrod1340
      @jayrod1340 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Idk Embid really insecure
      Ayton really insecure
      Kat and Gobert really insecure

  • @ericmclean4291
    @ericmclean4291 ปีที่แล้ว +332

    Shaq made some decent points but he missed the most important one. Walton has already been stamped by his OGs so the discussion is over. If Russell, Wilt, and Kareem says Walton is one of them, Walton is one of them. Sadly, a large part of Shaq's legacy will be about how much of his talent he wasted.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Just Wilt and Russell* the great KAJ is his peer and Walton swept prime KAJ in his juggernaut college days

    • @theinktician
      @theinktician ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@dusk6159 How could he sweep KAJ in college if they both went to UCLA...I think you're confused

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@theinktician My bad I meant young Walton and young Kareem while both already in the league.

    • @kray97
      @kray97 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Shaq could have been the best of them all, but he was lazy. Think how good he could have been if he had a work ethic like Kobe.

    • @atlien1988
      @atlien1988 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@kray97 Shaq ended up with more championships & career points than all of them except Kareem (points & chips), Wilt (points), & Russell (Chips).

  • @ChuckDean-h4n
    @ChuckDean-h4n 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Rip Bill Walton! Shaq was actin a fool for this

    • @NickyDiamond44
      @NickyDiamond44 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Shaqtin a fool

    • @BirdGang6
      @BirdGang6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shaq has come out and said he regretted how he treated Bill and that he respected him

  • @ThePenitentSquirrel
    @ThePenitentSquirrel ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Shaq was one of the most unstoppable players... for about 8 or 9 years and his lack of growth (and willingness to grow) kind of produced the super ugly decline (the last 8 years) at the end of his career. Imagine how good he could have been if he hit free throws and knew the entire game (not just his game) better.

    • @canalesworks1247
      @canalesworks1247 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I remember just before Kobe died , this was after that one on one video they did where they buried the hatchet, Kobe said that if Shaq had worked out the way he did they would have won 12 rings together. Then Shaq got pissed and started posting a bunch of pics of himself destroying people in the paint saying "Does this look lazy?"
      Kobe's answer to it was "No. It looks...dominant."
      I love Shaq. He brought 3 rings to the Lakers and was the most dominant force in the NBA when he was at his peak. That being said his refusal to work out and watch his weight WAS the reason that he and Kobe fell apart, even though he also called Kobe the "greatest player on the planet" during that same period.
      Kobe gets endless hate for a number of things but the break up with Shaq is key among them. Perhaps this beef with Walton will have people see Kobe's side of the beef with a little more clarity.
      (I realize I put Kobe and beef together... I think I'll have steak tonight.)

    • @tednguyen7258
      @tednguyen7258 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no one can stop shaq...greatest center of all time

    •  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He wasn't unstoppable because of skill he was unstoppable because skinny BB players had a hard time moving him from the basket.

  • @petiteexplication6249
    @petiteexplication6249 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    Bill walton is honestly one of the most unique stars in league history a finals mvp and league mvp that never truly reached his prime how many players can say that

    • @gricius
      @gricius ปีที่แล้ว +13

      there's many stars that didn't reach their prime. I agree with Shaq. Bill probably shouldn't be in HOF, and nobody seems to question it. Only a couple of great seasons, whilst in other seasons he played between 30-50 games.

    • @gagemartin7207
      @gagemartin7207 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@griciusI mean it counts college too and Walton is arguably the best college basketball player ever

    • @sidhenihilist
      @sidhenihilist ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Derrick Rose for the same reasons unfortunately.

    • @dondenny8842
      @dondenny8842 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@sidhenihilist the ring separates the two but yes exactly my thoughts

    • @verynice7367
      @verynice7367 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@griciuslol if tmac with a terrible career is in the hall of fame then Bill Walton gets in with no difficulty

  • @Enthusiast230
    @Enthusiast230 ปีที่แล้ว +414

    There's nothing surprising about Shaq beefing with another renowned NBA center 😂

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      People should nickname Shaq the King of Beef.

    • @juanrr6822
      @juanrr6822 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Stop over commenting, dude

    • @MrOctober44
      @MrOctober44 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@juanrr6822Stop under commenting dude

  • @ItsDatCajunStuff
    @ItsDatCajunStuff ปีที่แล้ว +215

    *Other NBA players are successful*
    Shaq: "And I took that personally."

    • @nickhughes8179
      @nickhughes8179 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And I got Rings!!! Google me Other NBA Players!!

  • @phillipschuman4307
    @phillipschuman4307 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    Walton won a rebounding title, a block title, and had two 1st team all-defense selections.
    Shaq has a total of (checking notes, oh right) 0 for all of those things. Also, Walton matched Shaq's MVP total, which is understandable for how shortened his prime was, but not understandable for Shaq, really. In fact, it's downright pitiful for someone who played so long with his physical gifts.
    So Bill did some things Shaq never did, which are the hallmarks of all the greatest centers. (Which other of the greatest centers never won a rebound or a block title, and never made 1st team all-defense?)
    Walton's team won four straight against Kareem's Lakers (when Kareem was league MVP), and then four straight against Dr. J's 76ers (after going down 0-2 in Philly). Shaq is tied for being swept the most times in NBA playoff history.

    • @Theterminato2013
      @Theterminato2013 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @TheEsquireofSports.2.0Just because you’re more skilled, doesn’t make you better. If that’s the case, Arvydas Sabonis is the GOAT center and Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady are better than Kobe Bryant.

    • @Theterminato2013
      @Theterminato2013 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @TheEsquireofSports.2.0If you replace Shaq with Bill Walton on those Magic teams, his ass would get swepted by Hakeem and Michael Jordan also.

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@Theterminato2013
      that's what people thought in 1977
      Besides, Shaq had Kobe, who had Walton? good players , great teammates in Portland, but no HoFer

    • @alaeus2310
      @alaeus2310 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Theterminato2013 If there was someone that could defend Hakeem when healthy, that's Walton. Granted, defending Hakeem in the post is like trying to double Jokic. You might succeed, once or twice, but the other 15 times you try you'll get creamed.

    • @spunkhead
      @spunkhead ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shaq doesn't know the history like we do...

  • @EatPlayNoSleep
    @EatPlayNoSleep 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Came back here as soon as I heard the news. RIP Bill Walton.

  • @broaddusmarines
    @broaddusmarines ปีที่แล้ว +107

    As big as Shaq is, he has the temperament of a 15 year old high school cheerleader.
    But yeah, a healthy Bill Walton is probably an all time top-five center.
    The Trailblazers were (easily) cruising to their second straight championship in 1978 before Bill went down.

    • @mongoslade277
      @mongoslade277 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I was a Seattle SuperSonics fan & you're absolutely right. Portland was 35-6 midway through the season. 50-10 when Walton got hurt. No way was Seattle or anyone else beating them

    • @scottodonnell7121
      @scottodonnell7121 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mongoslade277 and another sweep of the Lakers

  • @AirRusher1992
    @AirRusher1992 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    This seems like an interesting beef but now these two are now analyst. Good to hear Seth again. Been a while but now you're back. You're the man, Seth.

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Shaq can be funny but a pretty bad analyst as far as the finer points of the game. His only comment is usually man up and play better. Not exactly Einstein there.

    • @Kap_NYC
      @Kap_NYC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GnofgVery true tbh

    • @jamesmarshall6619
      @jamesmarshall6619 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gnofg precisely, he's one of the worst analysts out there in any sport. He's good on TNT at making the telecast fun, he's actually okay and quite good at times discussing more how to players should conduct themselves on the court, stand up for themselves or one another, but like you said, finer points of the game, lazy as they come. He's more of a fun personality to have on tv and not really an analyst.

    • @borklazer
      @borklazer ปีที่แล้ว

      The Inside the NBA crew was better without Shaq. He’s fine now, but he is absolutely the Ringo there.

  • @noahmurray8883
    @noahmurray8883 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Shaq is like NBA Hulk Hogan. Lots of fans and accolades but also a reputation for having a terrible ego and burying his peers

    • @megusta288
      @megusta288 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      accurate comparison tbh except that is a better person overall lmao

    • @nicholastricarico2957
      @nicholastricarico2957 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@megusta288Especially considering that Hulk Hogan was the one who ratted out Jesse Ventura and the rest of the wrestlers who were trying to unionize during the 80's, and was subsequently rewarded with all of the fame and attention he could handle.

    • @whatwelearned
      @whatwelearned ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shaq is mother Teresa compared to that sack of rat droppings

    • @mesame121489
      @mesame121489 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@whatwelearnedI get what you are trying to say but Mother Teresa was worse than all of the people mentioned lol

    • @JayCity10
      @JayCity10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, Mother Teresa was evil.

  • @angusdog22
    @angusdog22 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Bill Walton was an absolute BEAST!! His NBA career was cut short but he won 2 Championships one of which he was the number one option and won League and finals MVP. Shaq is more accomplished but Walton is VERY underrated.

    • @canalesworks1247
      @canalesworks1247 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The only thing that stopped Walton was that freakishly bad health. He's the most underrated center of all time.

    • @Pastordavidcpc
      @Pastordavidcpc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I believe Bill Walton was the most talented big man to play the game. If only he could have stayed healthy. Walton’s IQ on the court was off the charts. Even John wooden and Jack Ramsey put Walton at the top center

    • @zachmartin1458
      @zachmartin1458 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @padenK Walton's prime was as good if not better than any center to play the game. It's just that his prime lasted about 150 games or so.

  • @EJ09090WRKZ
    @EJ09090WRKZ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    RIP Bill Walton

  • @user-lw9wu8dl4o
    @user-lw9wu8dl4o ปีที่แล้ว +260

    Walton's inclusion on the list is mostly a nod to his absolute peak. In those 18 months in the late 70's he legitimately was the best player in the league. Absolutely insane on the court and the first person to be better on the court than the godlike Kareem at the time.
    Sad he was never able to keep it up, but because those heights are so hard to reach, he's given credence.

    • @chrissullivan6572
      @chrissullivan6572 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      If you haven't watched it, Thinking Basketball has a Greatest Peaks series and the Walton episode is great. I never questioned him but that episode really made me look at him even better.

    • @MrKT410
      @MrKT410 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm not sure he was ever better than Kareem was he was certainly Top 2

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma ปีที่แล้ว +28

      The Trailblazers ruined Walton and have been paying for that decision ever since.

    • @username-mf4mu
      @username-mf4mu ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@MrKT410he swept kareem and outplayed him in his championship season for me he was for atleast one season

    • @thisguy8106
      @thisguy8106 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      He "couldn't keep it up" bc he had a hairline fracture in his foot and played through it..while dominating!
      Had Walton played in today's game.. the hairline fracture would've been diagnosed and he couldve been healed. But sadly..he played in a time when injuries like that couldn't be diagnosed.

  • @kabelokgeledi4538
    @kabelokgeledi4538 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    I’m starting to think Shaq’s the problem 😅

    • @RKWDBMX
      @RKWDBMX ปีที่แล้ว +21

      hahaha starting

    • @Rcb4th
      @Rcb4th ปีที่แล้ว +60

      When you beef with everyone else, you may be the problem

    • @jluchette
      @jluchette ปีที่แล้ว +16

      “You are the common factor in all of your failed relationships.”
      I love that quote! But the psych/major social worker in me has to point out how it’s an incorrect way to think about relationships.
      Sometimes when a relationship fails, you share the blame with the other party. This is of course the most common. Sometimes it truly is ALL your fault, you did something unforgivable. And on the opposite end, sometimes you do nothing wrong, and the other party screws up royally.
      So, saying “you’re the common factor in all of your failed relationships with other humans” is technically true, but it’s true by default. YOUR relationship can’t EXIST without YOU being a factor. So it’s “technically” true but doesn’t stand up to the most basic logical argument. Fun to say tho.

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@jluchette True, but if someone tends to end up either in toxic relationships or having beef with everyone, maybe that person's contribution is looking for the wrong kind of person. I have a relative who complained to me about always ending up with cerifiably crazy women, and I said that maybe there was something about that type that was drawing him in.

    • @Beowulf45
      @Beowulf45 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Rcb4th He's only beefed with Bill Walton, Kobe Bryant, JaVale McGee, and Dwight Howard...hmm, I think I see your point. 😂 (Did I miss anyone?)

  • @firstgencorporate
    @firstgencorporate ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Mr. Big Sensitive for sure. 😅

  • @voiceofreason2674
    @voiceofreason2674 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I read Phil Jacksons book and understand Shaqs psychology super well because I had a teammate who went really far and almost touched the NBA and he had the same exact mentality. It's like a switch in his head where he goes from generally nice and well meaning to "break you down" mode. I remember watching our AAU B-Team essentially and our other center was having a good game, and all of the sudden my boy's got stank face and hes like "dont compliment that boy for nothing he aint shi ima have to break that boy down"

    • @tomtik101
      @tomtik101 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's the motivation behind that mindset? Where does it stem from?

    • @voiceofreason2674
      @voiceofreason2674 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@tomtik101 I'm the biggest in the room and you gotta bow down to me don't criticize My technique when all y'alls advice boils down to is be the biggest in the room. Somebody like Walton who is roughly as big as Shaq nitpicking set him off and flipped that switch from team player to pure hater.

    • @voiceofreason2674
      @voiceofreason2674 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@tomtik101 Phils book says that he took Shaqs side in every argument versus Kobe cuz kobe was basically telling him to play big and what is Shaq supposed to do? Grow bigger? Nah you treat a big man with kid gloves or risk damaging his ego

    • @chauvintookaknee4blm268
      @chauvintookaknee4blm268 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@voiceofreason2674black fragility

    • @Oly1y
      @Oly1y ปีที่แล้ว

      Was your teammate also a baby who couldn't handle criticism?

  • @iyencarter3997
    @iyencarter3997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    RIP Bill Walton....
    I bet Shaq will still find something to hate about the Big Redhead and will make it about himself when he gets a chance to talk about Bill Walton.

    • @jaystacks5249
      @jaystacks5249 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Damn if you weren’t spot on

    • @iyencarter3997
      @iyencarter3997 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jaystacks5249 you can just see that coming knowing how sensitive and full of hinself Shaq is…

  • @滋榎本
    @滋榎本 ปีที่แล้ว +344

    Bill Walton was a very good player, both as a star player and as a role player.
    Walton's performances with the Blazers and Celtics were incredible.

    • @kenrickkahn
      @kenrickkahn ปีที่แล้ว +60

      If only injuries stayed away from Walton.. He would have more rings on his fingers.. The talent was there 100% the injuries held the talent back..

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      He is definitely the greatest What If in the NBA. If his body held up, he'd definitely be on the shortlist for greatest ever.

    • @explorewithme4707
      @explorewithme4707 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      But definitely not hall of fame worthy…

    • @lawrencebrodsky8894
      @lawrencebrodsky8894 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@wvu05 Yes but Shaq is right because his greatness ended with that first major foot injury. He does not merit hof based on longevity. Walton not only player in hall like that.

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@explorewithme4707 Go listen to Jerry West on the dan patrick show yesterday. Walton is immediately mentioned by Jerry as one of the best.

  • @fg7496
    @fg7496 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    For someone that claims to have been raised by a disciplinarian and also claims to hate bullies, Shaq really is just the exact opposite of disciplined and respectful. Dudes that bully that wants to be the most liked in the room at anyone else’s expense and will snap at the smallest amount of fight from anyone.

    • @thedangerwich5476
      @thedangerwich5476 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You’re spot on. He alternates between the most wholesome respectful nice guy in the world to extreme petty and bully. This is the same man who has admitted he had to literally create a fictitious beef in his head with David Robinson to motivate himself to go against him. Shaq has admitted he was a bully, even as a youngster. He has said that an experience snapped him out of it as a kid, but it seems he has still kept those same tendencies even as an adult.

    • @kofig8357
      @kofig8357 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bro Shaq literally beat a kid so bad he went to the hospital and always tells that story

    • @scottodonnell7121
      @scottodonnell7121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thedangerwich5476 he said he beat a kid into an epileptic seizure and left him there convulsing in the dirt.

  • @rayrayschnapps8217
    @rayrayschnapps8217 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    David Robinson had the best comeback about shaq. when asked about shaqs book he said what is it a picture book?

    • @maxmeier532
      @maxmeier532 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      lolz. Poor david, wasnt he the victim of Shaq's lie about how he didnt sign him an autograph when he came to shaq's school?

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Walton and the Admiral hit him where it hurts lol

    • @blackwidowsm
      @blackwidowsm ปีที่แล้ว

      The admiral had to put up with lies about his character from Shaq. Years later. All Shaq said was kidding… A man of David’s character that simply won’t due. If there dueling was still legal. This would have been pistols at 10 paces. Really wonder who Shaq could get to stand as a second? He burnt so many bridges. Everyone was on the Admirals side. He truly was one of the great Centers a complete two way monster.

  • @rnuke_rocket
    @rnuke_rocket ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Bill won a championship and a Finals MVP for the franchise that drafted him, couldn't say the same for Shaq.

    • @kenkl5204
      @kenkl5204 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also did what Shaq couldn't. Lead a college team to champs.

    • @njbrx
      @njbrx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      good point

  • @randall44lee
    @randall44lee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bill Walton was at his best when he was announcing NBA games on NBC. Him and Steve 'Snapper' Jones, we're a great duo.

  • @kendostick34
    @kendostick34 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Shaq is one of the most impactful big men ever, his resume is incredible. He’s done a TON of generous stuff off the floor too. And he’s also consistently been a bully.
    He spends some of his time knocking others down, rather than building his own achievements up.
    He always says he’s the master marketer - and the fact we talk about him confirms he gets people talking.
    But he gets people talking about him in a negative way.
    If he’s worried about his legacy on the floor being forgotten as other greats have also been minimised or forgotten, it’s totally understandable. But hounding people only makes people remember him negatively.

  • @jujuju948
    @jujuju948 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Putting Carmen Electra with those 0 MVPs and 0 Championships had me rolling 😂

    • @sdelmonte
      @sdelmonte ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And where is she now? It's all about the ringz!

    • @fraz72
      @fraz72 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I guess she was getting dunked in ..oops I meant dunked on 😂😂😂

  • @QuartzGolem
    @QuartzGolem ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Anyone who knows anything about Shaq knows that unless you roll over for him at the slightest bit of disagreement, he will throw a fit over it and say some pretty bad takes about the whole thing. This is the dude who made up a fake beef, nothing is too petty for him.

    • @gobot581
      @gobot581 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol you know Shaq or do you watch sports like the rest of us? Internet is a crazy place you really think you know this man.

    • @yonkel0
      @yonkel0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gobot581 Pretty much yeah. It ain't rocket science to recognize a big baby and bully.

    • @markjackson6431
      @markjackson6431 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gobot581 Shaq ADMITTED in an interview. that he made fake accusation against David Robinson. there isn’t a limit to where he will go

  • @mario-ck3es
    @mario-ck3es 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Context is very important. I'm gonna say Bill should be in the hall. For his contributions to the sport of basketball in totality. On all levels.

  • @terryaltherr2481
    @terryaltherr2481 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm surprised this video didn't mention Shaq's admiration for George Mikan since he and George did appear together here and there. Also, when Mikan died, Shaq was able to pay for his funeral and even stated that "Without number 99 [Mikan], there is no me."
    Nonetheless, this was a really good and informative vid. Great work as always Seth!
    Also, RIP Bill.

  • @eddieredmann3
    @eddieredmann3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    The funny thing to me is that Shaq says way worse about the young guys in the league today than it seems like Bill Walton ever said about him. lol

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh Bill Walton said worse things than shown here specifically when calling games. Beef History often misses things that add more context. Nearly every vid I see commenters bring things up that should've been mentioned but aren't.

    • @thedangerwich5476
      @thedangerwich5476 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That’s because Shaq is a massive hypocrite

    • @thedangerwich5476
      @thedangerwich5476 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CrazyxEnigmaI mean….examples please?

    • @darkeyed.lowlander
      @darkeyed.lowlander ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@CrazyxEnigmaimagine being mad about a nickname. And at the mention of Rick Fox 😂

  • @holstorrsceadus1990
    @holstorrsceadus1990 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Bill Walton is a vegetarian and Shaq has done the vegan/vegetarian thing so this is the first episode of plant based imitation beef

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My money says Shaq dies young from being overweight.

    • @jamaali2358
      @jamaali2358 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@Gnofg how disrespectful

    • @Gnofg
      @Gnofg ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jamaali2358 I’m just going on what happens to overweight people.
      Charles Barkley’s doctor told him that you don’t see old fat people because they die early and that is why Charles is on Ozempic.
      Furthermore the height where your size impacts your longevity is 6’3”. Look it up.
      Being 7’3 and overweight is a recipe for a early exit.

  • @RolandBullock-ej8wl
    @RolandBullock-ej8wl ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Shaq being sensitive and petty?!! Nooooooo, who would have thought!

  • @MultiDevon123
    @MultiDevon123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Just saw TNT and was so glad Shaq got over himself and finally squashed his beef with Bill Walton. It means alot that Shaq admit he was being sensitive ❤️ RIP Bill Walton.

    • @bpthegreatt
      @bpthegreatt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It was phony

    • @hawkeye0378
      @hawkeye0378 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      He called bill Walton trash last month

  • @marccocarter1110
    @marccocarter1110 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    For a man as big as Shaq, the smallest words seem to offend him

    • @ch.illmatic
      @ch.illmatic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mr sensitive

    •  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If Shaq wasn't huge he wouldn't have been in the NBA and he could never make the 3 point NBA of today.

  • @brianbiekman8805
    @brianbiekman8805 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Shaq is the 50 Cent of sports beefs 😂

    • @arizonaFIREent
      @arizonaFIREent ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Both were underachievers

    • @GOODMuzikBoi
      @GOODMuzikBoi ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@arizonaFIREenthow?

    • @MazeDaGr8
      @MazeDaGr8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Without the 9 bullet holes

    • @kaminsod4077
      @kaminsod4077 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@GOODMuzikBoiThere's a decent contingent of people who think Shaq could've been the undisputed GOAT center if he had taken more after Kobes insane work ethic instead of relaxing and chilling in the offseason. They're probably right, but it's still a what if.

    • @Dollar-zb2ik
      @Dollar-zb2ik ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats a lazy comparison

  • @outsideropinion6561
    @outsideropinion6561 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You say Walton kept talking about shaq, but he mostly was positive. Only went after shaq a couple times

  • @laz0rama
    @laz0rama ปีที่แล้ว +6

    dude, you say walton was a low minutes guy for the celtics - he freaking won 6th man of the year! he was a definite and notable contributor to that 86 celtics team.

    • @johnnythekid4601
      @johnnythekid4601 ปีที่แล้ว

      but of course the bronsexuals will argue he was the 6th man in an era of bums

  • @willjamesjr
    @willjamesjr ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Shaq often talks about how modern players are too sensitive (he's right btw). But it's crazy to see that given his dramas with Kobe, Dwight, Walton, Robinson & others, that Shaq was just as sensitive as the modern players. I'm a Shaq fan.
    But maybe his new nickname should be "The Big Hypocritical"

    • @thedangerwich5476
      @thedangerwich5476 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Modern players aren’t anymore sensitive than past. We just have social media that tells us what they’re saying and doing 24/7. Scottie sat on the bench in 94 because he was mad he had to
      Inbound, MJ punched a teammate in the face for challenging him. People have always been people.

    • @blackwidowsm
      @blackwidowsm ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No player in league Historyvis more sensitive than Shaq. He made up lied about David Robinson years later he said he was just kidding. Life doesn’t work that way. You own the words you use. It defines your character as a man not become a character.

  • @josueperalta6670
    @josueperalta6670 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    So shaq being sensitive once again?

  • @thepiratepenguin_
    @thepiratepenguin_ ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Shaq is the most delicate flower to ever step foot on a basketball court, hands down.

  • @fantasyEXX
    @fantasyEXX ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Bill Walton used to compliment Shaq a lot when he did commentary on NBC games

    • @forestgump8357
      @forestgump8357 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Walton gushes over everybody, that is just his personality, but for several years Shaq was all that.

  • @robertlowrie8446
    @robertlowrie8446 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Despite Walton's injuries, they have the same number of MVPs.

  • @wa27
    @wa27 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It's weird because of all the sports commentators out there, Walton was the MOST qualified to criticize Shaq. It's a wonder Shaq ever was able to get into broadcasting if he holds grudges against anybody who ever said anything bad about his performances.

    • @Gixsir
      @Gixsir ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s why…. because he is the most qualified it just makes shaq more insecure

  • @MOCskoden
    @MOCskoden ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Shaq: I got 4 rings Chuck
    Chuck: you also got 4 player beefs (Walton, D-Rob, Kobe and Dwight)

    • @EverythingIsGuchi
      @EverythingIsGuchi ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And JaVale McGee

    • @MOCskoden
      @MOCskoden ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@EverythingIsGuchiI would consider that bullying 😅

    • @ivaneurope
      @ivaneurope ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You forgot the time he beefed with his coach - Stan van Gundy

    • @AzureChild
      @AzureChild ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Him and Phil Jackson and I think him and Penny beefed

    • @MazeDaGr8
      @MazeDaGr8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      & David Robinson

  • @VforVengeance159
    @VforVengeance159 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Shaq has always been the most dominant, not only in basketball, but also in pettiness.

  • @poseidonson13
    @poseidonson13 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Every new Shaq Beef makes me look forward to the eventual 5-part hours-long series on Kobe vs Shaq

  • @supermario2100
    @supermario2100 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If there's anyone I would take advice from about foot and ankle injuries as a professional basketball center, it's Bill Walton. The man won two championships with the worst ankles in the NBA.

  • @EverythingIsGuchi
    @EverythingIsGuchi ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Nothing is better than a surprise Beef History in the middle of the week

  • @Enthusiast230
    @Enthusiast230 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Had Shaq actually taken Walton's advice on dieting, the NBA world would be so much better right now 😂

    • @RVered
      @RVered ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Shaq would've definitely gotten at least a few more healthy, prime-formed seasons had he controlled his weight.
      His Orlando shape was ideal for him; this whole thing about him reaching his prime with the Lakers thanks to the weight gain is misleading, considering he could've focused on strength training and muscle mass rather than fat and gotten comparable or better results with far less overall mass. There's no magic in this world; no person can healthily carry so much weight while jumping, sprinting, and getting hit for hours daily.

    • @marquiseboyd282
      @marquiseboyd282 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shaq is in a class of his own take a dude advice that was average at best

    • @BrokeSpike
      @BrokeSpike ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@marquiseboyd282 Hall of famer, 2x champion, MVP, and FMVP is average?

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ​@@marquiseboyd282 Average at best? If you want to argue that Shaq had a better career than Walton, sure, but Walton at his peak was as good as anybody. The problem was that his peak just didn't last very long. And did you ever think that, just maybe, because of his experience, Walton knew how injuries could spiral and wanted Shaq to avoid that fate?

    • @Kennyisdarkvanilla
      @Kennyisdarkvanilla ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@marquiseboyd282this dude was able to give it to prime Kareem when healthy. Bill Walton is very underrated. May have been one of the best centers of all time if it was for injuries and Portland’s shitty medical team.

  • @seanmolloy2172
    @seanmolloy2172 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Shaq has always been a child. I love the fact that the modern generation of players hate him because of his takes on them.

  • @Betared2003
    @Betared2003 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's easy to talk about resumes when you are playing with all-time greats like Wilt had Arizin, West, and Baylor, Kareem has Oscar, Magic, Bill had like 7 hall of famers....Bill just had himself in Portland. And Bill won his ring beating Kareem and Dr J the two best players of the 70's.

  • @steveruble6335
    @steveruble6335 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think most people who truly understand the basics of center play would agree that few centers have ever embodied the all-around skill set that Walton possessed. Shaq is often funny, but also many times just a hardheaded monster of a man who bullied his way to success. He was so big and so strong he rarely ventured from more than 7 feet from the basket. He is a bit insecure. I'll take the other guys any day over him. Akeem was another marvelous center with amazing athletic ability and a great persona, always smiling.

  • @serisothikos
    @serisothikos ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Shaq is a gift to beef enthusiasts everywhere

  • @24n8
    @24n8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't know what it is about Seth's narration style, but it's just so enjoyable to listen to.

  • @Jkimbo23
    @Jkimbo23 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Bill Walton led a team to winning a championship by nearly his damn self.

    • @Greenfrom3
      @Greenfrom3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yep. I dare anyone to watch that series and not be amazed. He was like Jokic. However instead of scoring as much he got like 4 blocks a game and was an absolutely dominant defender.

    • @Charris2382
      @Charris2382 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Greenfrom3e played in a weak era. Plus the AbA and the NBA didn’t merge yet. So it wasn’t many games played back then. Bill was great in college but had a horrible NBA career. A lot of player have great first seasons but doesn’t make them a hall of a fame player.

    • @libertyaboveall5960
      @libertyaboveall5960 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      ​@@Charris2382you're just chattin. Walton has one of the best peaks of all time and that's HOF worthy. Also arguments over era are stupid. I can't wait for the 2000s to be brought up as a weak era

    • @murphrichard
      @murphrichard ปีที่แล้ว +30

      ​​​@@Charris2382 Walton's first championship was in the first finals after the merger. The Blazers played against the sixers, lead by Julius Erving who was a former ABA player
      Also Walton was the finals mvp

    • @hippiehazy96
      @hippiehazy96 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Charris2382lmao you really thought you did somethin there 🤣

  • @FredPena-rd5cf
    @FredPena-rd5cf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It has to be said however that Bill Walton's 1986 comeback was a catalyst to the Celtics winning the championship that year. What guy could play right away, limited minutes and produce in a way that made the Celtics win big games? He was subbing for Mchale and Parish. And still played a critical role in that championship season. A game changer. Not to mention his past Blazers glory.

  • @DrJohnnyJ
    @DrJohnnyJ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Walton, when healthy, led the league in blocked shots and rebounds. Shaq never did either. Walton ran the court, was a great passer, DPOY and MVP. Good man, bad feet.

  • @bw7754
    @bw7754 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Walton doesn’t get enough credit as it is, he was a great player. Injuries derailed his legacy.

    • @latinoheateddieguerrero7644
      @latinoheateddieguerrero7644 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The best ability is availability. Walton is overrated. Is Walton on the same level as Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, Derrick Rose or Yao Ming? Or is Walton comparable to Greg Oden and Zion Williamson?

    • @benweider2658
      @benweider2658 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@latinoheateddieguerrero7644he won mvp so same level as Yao and others

    • @n8tethegr8t20
      @n8tethegr8t20 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@benweider2658 techincally bill above the level of grant and penny as they never won mvps

    • @jamalwalker04
      @jamalwalker04 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@latinoheateddieguerrero7644 he's kinda like derrick rose except he was actually having an MVP-level peak

    • @mongoslade277
      @mongoslade277 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@n8tethegr8t20Derrick Rose won the MVP. The youngest winner ever & has more than 6000 points. Bet he doesn't get in the Basketball HOF

  • @MazeDaGr8
    @MazeDaGr8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    8:10 Shaq got some nerve telling Anybody they talk too much 😅😅

  • @GetOutsideYourself
    @GetOutsideYourself ปีที่แล้ว +51

    If you are old enough to have seen Walton play in his prime, you'd know Shaq's crazy.

    • @serge014
      @serge014 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That prime was only two seasons

    • @chazzx1018
      @chazzx1018 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shaq is a loser, let's just say it. He had great teams and won. He didn't do it by himself.

    • @chazzx1018
      @chazzx1018 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@serge014 how many seasons did you have?

    • @0005cd
      @0005cd ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Who cares if its 2 seasons. He won a ring, finals mvp and regular season mvp. How many people in the HOF played 10 plus years without getting one of those?

    • @anthonykemp276
      @anthonykemp276 ปีที่แล้ว

      @0005cd on a team stacked with Larry Bird, Kevin Mchale, Robert Parrish, Dennis Johnson, not a big feat!

  • @dog1dog223
    @dog1dog223 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As much as I like Shaq, his disrespect towards Walton has always been embarrassingly insecure, doltish, and childlike.

  • @joaquintuason5695
    @joaquintuason5695 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I may be too young to speak on this, but for me Bill Walton deserves to be on that list of top 10-15 greatest centers to lace up. 6000 points and 2 all stars are unbelievably low. Seeing him play, you know he definitely had that talent and ability to be that kind of guy and I bet if he'd played even a decade of healthy basketball he'd have 9 all-stars, 2 mvps, at least 20k points and hopefully more rings. We'll never get to see that and it sucks cuz I don't wanna hold that against him

  • @VinayakPande53
    @VinayakPande53 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Yao Ming is in the hall of fame, but I don't recall Shaq ever having a problem with him. Ming scored at a higher rate than Walton over the course of his career, but I don't recall Ming being on championship winning teams or winning MVP awards or being the NBA's rebounding or blocks leader.

    • @RKWDBMX
      @RKWDBMX ปีที่แล้ว

      very good point.

    • @ghostfacekicker
      @ghostfacekicker ปีที่แล้ว

      He played against Yao Ming and couldn’t body him like everyone else.

    • @16ktsgamma
      @16ktsgamma ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Shaq respected Ming.

    • @George_Fl0yd
      @George_Fl0yd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@16ktsgamma idk he did say ching ching chong about him

    • @samuelstensgaard4828
      @samuelstensgaard4828 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except for that bit where he was racist

  • @MrOneanddone91
    @MrOneanddone91 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There was nothing like watching the NBA on NBC in the early 2000's when the Lakers were on and hearing Bill Walton say "Throw it down big man, Throw It dowwwwwn" after a thunderous Shaq dunk.

  • @PEExpert
    @PEExpert ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Walton easily could’ve been as good as or better than Shaq, but he literally couldn’t attempt a shot without getting hurt. There’s a fantastic video about the peak version of him in Portland by Thinking Basketball, it’s highly worth the watch. He was uniquely dominant during that time.

    • @bonystickmanking1250
      @bonystickmanking1250 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      He wouldn't have been as good as shaq lets stop that discussion. But he would've entered that top 8 discussion in the center position (the most decorated position)

    • @Jarekthegamingdragon
      @Jarekthegamingdragon ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@bonystickmanking1250 He absolutely could have been better than shaq. Walton was stupidly good when healthy.

    • @maxmeier532
      @maxmeier532 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Jarekthegamingdragon "absolutely could have been better than shaq" is a ABSOLUTELY hypothetical and unprovable statement so why even make it. If I was 7 foot and could hoop I could have been the greatest ever. Now what.

    • @bonystickmanking1250
      @bonystickmanking1250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxmeier532 😭😭😭fax

    • @bonystickmanking1250
      @bonystickmanking1250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jarekthegamingdragon shaq was as pretty decent when healthy man, just pretty decent. Not the most dominant player ever with the best looking stats you could ever ask for any player while being the running engine in one of the greatest offensive schemes ever winning 3 rings in a row as the best player in the world 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @frasiec
    @frasiec ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Portland championship was the most dominant display of a center by Walton I’ve ever seen. Chocolate thunder was so frustrated he yanked the toilets out of his locker room

  • @RejectHumanityReturn2Monke
    @RejectHumanityReturn2Monke ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A 2 time champ, with 1 ring he was leading his team, a league MVP, a highly decorated college player. Why is Shaq arguing about Bill being in the 75 greatest and not Dame who hasn't won a thing?

  • @KarlMalowned32
    @KarlMalowned32 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Eventually we will need a Beef History of Shaq vs. Himself.

  • @Tywv91
    @Tywv91 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Seth is back!! These are the best

  • @wesdavidson2249
    @wesdavidson2249 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Beef History hits different when Seth narrates

  • @conradpoe-r7o
    @conradpoe-r7o ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bill Walton was Tim Duncan before Tim Duncan. Its just sad that he got injured almost 70% of his playing career.

  • @brandonough
    @brandonough 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bill Walton in his 76-77 year played better than Shaq ever did in a single season. He won MVP, Finals MVP, and led the youngest team in NBA history to ever win an NBA to a championship. Probably the biggest underdog to ever win was his Blazers year when they won it. Shaq needs to respect

    • @PInk77W1
      @PInk77W1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Portland’s first and only title

  • @spoogtastic
    @spoogtastic ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Seth talking about some beef....you know it's going to be a good day.

  • @AdTurnerr
    @AdTurnerr ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Shaq is the softest bigman ive ever seen. Small mentality in a big body

    • @maxmeier532
      @maxmeier532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you have "big" mentality you fix up cars making 40 grand a year. Why would you strive for money and fame if you were happy and satisfied with yourself.

    • @username-mf4mu
      @username-mf4mu ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@maxmeier532 flexing another man money and fame your so sad

  • @devanwelch4049
    @devanwelch4049 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That commercial with Kareem and Wilt is so cool.

  • @bricefleckenstein9666
    @bricefleckenstein9666 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:47
    Walton played ONE full season in the NBA - with the Celtics as the 6'th Man of the Year.
    His championship came in his next-high season - 61 or so regular season games.
    I think his 3'd high season was .... 47 or so?
    4:14
    He was a LOT more than a "low minute glue guy" for the Celtics - you don't win the 6'th man award with LOW minutes or as a mere "glue guy".

  • @johnturner7952
    @johnturner7952 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At this point, Shaq should have his own playlist on SB Nation.

  • @jefryhardy1140
    @jefryhardy1140 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Shaq learned the hard way the classic saying: you either retire at the right time, or play long enough to become the modern day Bill Walton on the Celtics. The one thing he always swore to avoid.

  • @the1flym459
    @the1flym459 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How do you have beef with Bill Walton of all people? He doesn't do anything except watch basketball, listen to Grateful Dead, and meat-ride Larry Bird in interviews

  • @nimallanjayabalan
    @nimallanjayabalan ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Please. We all know Shaq is Mr. Sensitive. This has been proven in TNT's Inside The NBA by Charles Barkley. 🤣

  • @brendanables7367
    @brendanables7367 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    RIP Big Bill

  • @djjoyful1
    @djjoyful1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved Bill Walton on that Trailblazer team however I had been saying the same thing! He is the only player in NBA history to make not only The Hall of Fame but the Top 75 of all time on what potentially he would have been if he wasn’t hurt as much!

    • @andreitaker3527
      @andreitaker3527 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it helps that on Bill Waltons Short Prime he won an MVP and A Championship on a 3 year stretch. There are people with longer career who made it to HOF that didn't come close to those things.

  • @shinybaldy
    @shinybaldy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Secret Base can probably put together a Shaq compilation of ppl he beefed with and it will genuinely almost always involve some “slight” or insecurity complex against someone who somehow threatened Shaq’s legacy without ever actually threatening how great he was.

  • @pseudonautilus6308
    @pseudonautilus6308 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the irony that Shaq always gatekeeping guys from the best big men of all time conversation perfectly highlights what held him back from being unanimous greatest big man of all time. If Shaq was a better leader and teammate he could have stayed in LA and won so much more. I think he had the talent to win 8 or 10 rings, he just didn't have the character.

    • @maxmeier532
      @maxmeier532 ปีที่แล้ว

      there really cant be an unanimous vote on any goat, see Bron vs MJ. But Shaq definitely has a lot of people agreeing he is the best big guy of all times.

    • @KeegoTheWise
      @KeegoTheWise ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ⁠@@maxmeier532i would argue wayne gretzky is the unanimous goat of his sport

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KeegoTheWise Yes. ask any hockey fan and they will tell you so.

    • @CrazyxEnigma
      @CrazyxEnigma ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shaq as great as his career is underachieved.

  • @rupertpupkin2660
    @rupertpupkin2660 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shaq has soo many Beef Historys they should be released as a Netflix Series. 😂😂😂

  • @philippesauvie639
    @philippesauvie639 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There should be an asterisk next to Bill Walton because unless you watched this man play on a regular basis which I did… He would’ve realize this center was the penultimate team player. The team was run by a basketball genius named Dr. Jack Ramsay. Bill Walton was 24 years old when he led the Portland Trail Blazers to the NBA title in an era when every team had a great center on it. Bill Walton could dominate a game and score 3 points which I saw him do one time versus the Celtics. The Blazers championship team had a rookie, Johnny Davis starting for it the day they won it all. It was not his fault that his foot didn’t hold up and he didn’t score 38,000 points in his career. When he did play, he was right up there in the top three greatest centers of all time.

  • @waveblast2
    @waveblast2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bill came to 1977 playoffs and took out all the dominant players .At that moment he showed he was the best.That alone qualify's him Hall Of Fame

  • @Shmuel420
    @Shmuel420 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey man, Walton was 6th man of the year and played almost every game during the 85-86 celtics regular season and playoff run. He wasn't just a "glue guy".