If you want to go deeper, see the most scientifically studied artifact on earth, the Shroud of Turin which essentially witnesses the passion, death and resurrection of Christ and defies scientific explanation as we understand it. The most vocal scientist against it ended up proving the carbon dating that the media touts to debunk it was itself false, and became a great defender of it before he died. Videos on my channel if interested exploring further.
@@seanjahangiri7266 Comparing worldviews - there are basically just two Either there is a God, a conscious intelligent mind at the bottom of all reality, or not. Based on Plato's principle of Contradiction and Excluded Middle: either that proposition is true or its negation is true, and contradictory propositions cannot both be true at the same time. The dichotomy that either there is a God, or there is not a God, are jointly exhaustive: everything must belong to one part or the other, and mutually exclusive: nothing can belong simultaneously to both parts. Only one worldview can be true. If the various worldviews have mutually exclusive truth claims, only one can be true. A true system of thought must be comprehensive of thought and life. It must possess consistency and coherence in its overall claims. But most importantly, the system must correspond to reality, past, present, and future, natural and supernatural. And all major systems of thought contain key truth claims which are contrary to those of all other systems. A worldview must be consistent and explain the evidence, phenomena, and observations in the natural world adequately. Norman Geisler: The creation-evolution debate is not religion versus science or the Bible versus science, it's about good science versus bad science. Likewise, it's not faith versus reason, it's about reasonable faith, versus unreasonable faith. The deepest intellectual battle is not between science and religion (which, as we have seen, can operate with a great deal of accord), but between naturalism and theism-two broad philosophical (or metaphysical) ways of looking at the world. Neither view is a scientific view; neither view is based on or inferable from empirical data. Metaphysics, like numbers and the laws of logic, lies outside the realm of human sense experience. So the issue of naturalism versus theism must be decided on philosophical grounds Metaphysical naturalism is the view that nothing exists but matter/energy in space-time. Naturalism denies the existence of anything beyond nature. The naturalist rejects God, and also such spooky entities as souls, angels, and demons. Metaphysical naturalism entails that there is no ultimate purpose or design in nature because there is no Purposer or Designer. On the other hand, theism is the view that the universe is created by and owes its sustained existence to a Supreme Being that exists outside the universe. These two views, by definition, contradict each other. Claim: you are OBVIOUSLY making a false dichotomy - that is, you are considering ONLY TWO options - namely, random chance, or a god. Have you considered that there may be OTHER explanations? Reply: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If the claim is that other worldviews exist, the claimer must be able to back up the claim, otherwise, it can be dismissed without evidence. Any worldview is limited in that it does not grant absolute truth, but only yields degrees of probability or likelihood. Bayesian inference is a method of statistical inference in which Bayes' theorem is used to update the probability of a hypothesis as more evidence or information becomes available. Bayesian inference has found application in a wide range of activities, including science, theology, and philosophy. After careful examination, all we can do is come to instant-deduction to the best explanation. 1. Accepting the best explanation maximizes the robustness of one’s position relative to accepting any other available explanatory hypothesis. 2. It is reasonable to maximize the robustness of one’s position. 3. One of the explanatory hypotheses should be accepted. 4. Thus: It is reasonable to accept the best explanation. 6 Either there is a God - creator and causal agency of the universe, or not. God either exists or he doesn’t. These are the only two possible explanations. The law of excluded middle is given the name of law for a reason it's called the law of excluded middle so when we say something is either a or it is not a there's no middle there no third option it is one of the fundamental laws of logic. It's a true dichotomy it's either God or not God. Naturalism & materialism: Naturalism & materialism: “the philosophical belief that everything arises from natural properties and causes, and supernatural or spiritual explanations are excluded or discounted.” Materialism is an atheistic worldview that sees all reality as the result of accidental collisions and combinations of elementary particles governed by a mysteriously fortuitous set of laws that control how matter interacts. It’s a worldview devoid of higher meaning and purpose. “the doctrine that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.” - Multiverse - Virtual particles - Big Bang - Accretion theory - Abiogenesis - Common ancestry - Evolution In regards of the origin of the universe, it was either eternal or had a beginning, in that case, the proponent of naturalism would have to give an explanation of the cause of the universe, and/or explain how it could exist eternally, without a beginning. The universe is finely tuned, so then he has the option of multiverses, where one would be life-permitting ( ours ). In regards to abiogenesis, he has random chance, and afterwards, evolution. He has to provide good reasons why these alternatives have more/better explanatory power than design. The chance to get a universe with stars is 10^229 If we sum up the total number of amino acids for a minimal Cell, there would have to be 560 proteins x 400 amino acids = 224.000 amino acids, which would have to be bonded in the right sequence, choosing for each position amongst 20 different amino acids, and selecting only the left-handed, while sorting out the right-handed ones. That means each position would have to be selected correctly from 40 variants !! that is 1 right selection out of 40^224.000 possibilities !! Theism: - Ontological Arguments - Cosmological Arguments - Teleological Arguments - Theological Arguments - Moral Arguments - Transcendental Arguments - Transcendent eternal God/Creator - created the universe and stretched it out - Created the Galaxies, Stars, Planets, the earth, and the moon - Created life in all its variants and forms - Created man and woman as special creation, upon his own image - Theology and philosophy: Both lead to an eternal, self-existent, omnipresent transcendent, conscious, intelligent, personal and moral Creator. The Christian faith based on the Bible: - The Bible: The Old Testament is a catalog of fulfilled prophecies of Jesus Christ, and his mission, death, and resurrection foretold with specificity. - Archaeology: Demonstrates that all events described in the Bible are historical facts. - History: Historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth, and really did physically rise from the dead - The Bible's witnesses: There are many testimonies of Jesus doing miracles still today, and Jesus appearing to people all over the globe, still today. - End times: The signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are occurring in front of our eyes. New world order, microchip implant etc. - After-life experiences: Credible witnesses have seen the afterlife and have come back and reported to us that the afterlife is real. 1. If the weight of the Christian worldview is making sense above 50 % compared to atheism, or any different religion, then it is rational to believe in Christ, and commit living as a Christian. 2. Christianity has at least a 50 % chance of being true. 3. Therefore, it is rational to commit to live as a Christian.
Zameen Z You probably also believe that there is just one Koran. You probably believe that Allah was the best of liars. You probably don’t know that there are different Koran with different numbers of versus
@@boyofGod81 agreed on that my brother in Christ The recent dissection of the Koran performed by Dr David wood and Dr Jay Smith revealed the FACT that not just one perfectly preserved koran is in captivity but the latest count is 37 having 93 thousand variances between them and counting. David Wood & Jay Smith chop the credibility ladder from under Islam. 37 Arabic Korans discovered all different. th-cam.com/video/LfgV9cNf1vc/w-d-xo.html Many other problems such as the must recent version only goes back to 1985. Any come back?
Dr. James Tour. I have struggled my whole life with my faith. Some chapters of my life more than others. You have been a God send for me. Please, I beg you, please continue this. You are drastically changing minds and in doing so changing lives. Your unshakable faith coupled with your vast level of understanding speaks volumes. Your brother in Christ
The god of Christianity is a new god. th-cam.com/video/MlnnWbkMlbg/w-d-xo.html Before men conceived that god polytheism was the norm. th-cam.com/play/PLh9mgdi4rNeyuvTEbD-Ei0JdMUujXfyWi.html This is somewhat odd if the Abrahamic god is the so called creator of the universe. Can you identify the evolutionary origins of your religion from this chart? ultraculture.org/blog/2015/11/30/map-world-religions/ ...and the subsequent religions that it gave birth to?
Dennis Vance Adam and Eve, Abraham, Isaac, Noah, Moses are all figures of legendary writing, no more real in the historical sense than King Arthur. There is no evidence of any exodus. That is merely a Hebrew myth not grounded in any historical or archaeological facts. th-cam.com/video/21NoQuKTB8Q/w-d-xo.html Jesus most probably existed. th-cam.com/video/q46tjUQatgI/w-d-xo.html He was a Jewish apocalyptic preacher. He was not born in Bethlehem as that story was added by Mark and Luke to give Jesus a backstory and a genealogy to align with claimed messiah. The gospels were written specifically to promote a belief proclaiming “good news” and their bias is discerned in their content. Think of it as early Christian propaganda designed to promote the belief that Jesus was the Jewish messiah. We do not know who wrote the gospels but we do know that they were not eyewitnesses of the events that they claim to describe. They were not written by Matthew , Mark, Luke or John as these names were added in the second century. The gospel labelled Mark is the earliest gospel.
Dennis Vance let me take you a tour of the Old Testament th-cam.com/play/PLh9mgdi4rNeyuvTEbD-Ei0JdMUujXfyWi.html You clearly need to read more and believe less.
Dennis Vance can I ask what books you have been reading? Unless you are reading directly from peer review journals you are doing yourself a disservice. Who are these “authors” you have been reading?
Dr Meyer speaks in a way that a layman can understand, and yet, you could write a book without making corrections. Thank you, both of you, for sharing your Gifts from GOD with us.
@@dantheman909 : Curious argument to defend religion by using the word as an insult. Science is not a belief but a method for testing facts that has proven to be extremely successful. Creationists seem compelled to denigrate it whenever data suggests something that may conflict with old religious dogma. The whole ID argument is pure sophistry.
@@dantheman909 If you actually comprehended what he said you would by revelation realize the failed mechanisms man have MFG, are futile, feeble and strains to make any real latching elements to progress to things or any level of measurable science results. Doing it from a sober sensible mind is what you don't like. 100% of his vernacular is sound and pertinent to all points of chemistry science field all across the board!!!!!.
Thank you Dr. Tour and Dr. Meyer. Arguably the best discussion on the internet on God, Life, Science, and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Absolutely worth the hour and fifteen mins spent. God Bless!
You do know that he’s peddling a pseudoscience?? Here’s his bio.... Stephen C. Meyer (born 1958) is an American scientist, college professor and author. He is an advocate of the pseudoscientific principle of intelligent design.
Jeffery Kongolo intelligent design is a proven pseudoscience. It was specifically invented to introduce the false dogma of biblical creationism into schools by the back door. rationalwiki.org/wiki/Intelligent_design Now it’s used to sell books to unquestioning and credulous Christians , Jews and Muslims.
@Jeffery Kongolo Google "Intelligent design" and this is the first thing that comes up "Intelligent design (ID) is a pseudoscientific argument for the existence of God, presented by its proponents as "an evidence-based scientific theory about life's origins". Time and again, science has shown that methodological naturalism can push back ignorance, finding increasingly detailed and informative answers to mysteries that once seemed impenetrable: the nature of light, the causes of disease, how the brain works. Evolution is doing the same with the riddle of how the living world took shape. Creationism, by any name, adds nothing of intellectual value to the effort. If people like you win the argument then it would set science and scientific research back 150 years.
@Jeffery Kongolo So you believe in "Intelligent Design"? And most of your comment is conjecture, where have I got the idea that religion stifles science? I didn't say that, my remark was pointed at creationists and not religion. You people are so stupid And FYI Einstein was an atheist
"A statistical impossibility is a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 10^ -50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a rational, reasonable argument." The probability of a functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 10^ -164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 10^ -119,000. Thanks for sharing. Best wishes, Lord-Jesus-Christ com
I find this podcast very interesting. The more you dig deeper into the origin of life, the greater the Creator is revealed. Thank you very much Dr. James Tour and Dr. Stephen Meyer. You are the modern disciples of Christ, brave and unafraid to spread the truth amidst a deceiving world. God bless you both.
Dr. Tour I just wanted to say how much I’ve learned from your lectures and interviews. You absolutely brought the hammer of reason down on a field that was otherwise murky to me based on the information I got from popular science articles I had read and watched. I’m not a scientist but I’ve always had an interest in this area since elementary school. I had no idea how deficient the information I was getting had been regarding the state of this field. Thank you for insisting on scientific rigor and speaking so clearly about this topic. I am grateful to you. All the best!
Perhaps when something dies and we sense the loss of wonder in the amazement of what just faded before us. The feeling resonates with us so deeply because it's part of the greatest evidence for the greatest reality who is God :)
Also watch some of the lectures by Pierre-Marie Robitaille on astrophysics. You'll discover that a lot of what we've been taught about the sun and black holes is pure bullcrap conjecture without any basis in real science. He's like a James Tour shooting down cosmological theory.
Yes, Thank you....for the scientific rigor that I can unashamedly forward to my non-christian, perhaps aetheist friends who prided themselves of being scientific .
It's beautiful to be allowed to recognize the handiwork of the Lord! Psalms 19:1-2 "The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. Day today pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge.
“The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.” -Sir James Jeans, 1877-1946, an English physicist, astronomer and mathematician.
To565 You565 I am pretty sure that neither of these two men believe the stories in the inspired Word of God, (which is inerrant by the way) that God created everything in 6days, and that the flood was a global event, and that Earth is about 6.5k years old. I've always wondered how you can pick and choose which parts of the bible you believe are true, and not myth.
@@psalm1197 Please prove that they don't BELIEVE EXACTLY what the Bible says and stop with the GOSSIP. You are to FIRST go tell your brother ONE ON ONE his sin...Matthew 18...and then go with another if he doesn't listen. The Lord tells us this to help us figure out whether we are wrong or they are wrong. I've never heard either disparage the Word of God and I've listened to everything theyve produced.
Alexandra Hippisley christianity is not a monolith. Neither is the belief in an intelligent designer. The Bible was written in many styles over 1000 years by many authors of different age and cultures. The main message is if there was a creator and that we are imperfect and needed a Savior. Believing on that Savior, Jesus who paid the penalty for your sin will be the ticket to the presence of the creator for eternity. That is what makes a Christian. There are still arguments on which parts are poetic, factual, or the other writing styles.
The Great Behoover I wrote "I'm pretty sure....". So, it's my opinion, and most definitely not GOSSIP. Also I did not say it was SIN to not believe all the stories in the Bible, instead I "wondered" how they choose which stories to believe. None of that was negative, not was it gossip, nor was it judgmental. Because I believe the whole bible to be true, I find it fascinating to meet people who are Christians who do not believe the whole bible. It's hardly a harmful or negative discussion. Just plain interesting, that's all.
@@psalm1197 Again...what you did was GOSSIP. SPREADING RUMORS...UNVERIFIED NEGATIVE REMARKS. I am sure these men would tell you that it is bad enough that they have to deal with their own sin, let alone deal with all the Imagine sin the others Place upon them! Stop this vile Behavior!
Wonderful interview. As a telecommunications technician I have nowhere near the knowledge of these two great Christ loving scholars but I agree with their beliefs 100%. Praise be to God that we have people of this calliber who can tell the truth and put it out there.
My two favorite people to listen to. Shedding light on the lies current science and education push on students and the public... that life came from a primordial ocean.
I am a new listener and you genuinely have my administration and attention to your scientific knowledge and the grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is amplified through the work and attention given ❤
Praise GOD for you and your guests. I'm tired of the same old ad hominem attacks on Christians and Christian scientists. You are a great mind and thank you Dr. Tour!
Dr James Tour, I'm so blessed to have come across you (here TH-cam video) and your channel too! After my B.Sc (Chemistry) in 2002, i went for theological studies and since then I'm in ministry. My core interests are in biblical and systemic theology so I am sooo exicted to listen to and be mentored by your journey of faith! A Jew and practicing scientist and yet a true disciple and witness of Jesus Christ. To me, you are truely my modern day apostole Paul! ... "although I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more: circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless. But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ." (Philippians 3:4-7 NASB) My first sermon in the seminary was from the above text and the same has been my spiritual and ministerial bedrock! May God continue to bless you with good health and long life as you proclaim His kingdom to the 'wisdom' of this world and also to the poor! Shalom!
Wow! Im here watching this now because i saw an upward spiral vortex of vapour (same consistency as a cloud) at my gdads funeral 9yrs ago. It changed my life forever. I never thought of it that i was watching localised order fm disorder. An ordering of energy. Complex order of information even on a superficial level. Its just yet another way that this event has blown my mind.
Praise our Lord Jesus Christ forever & ever...thank you for brilliant Scientiests minds like Mr.Meyer...James Tour...Jihn C.Lennox & others....GOD bless these wonderful folliwers of Jesus Christ...Amen3x...💕💓💕🙏🙏🙏.
i am 68. embarrassed to say it, I just finished reading the Bible for 1st time. I was blown away, by the very first line of Genesis; "In the beginning"... not 'at the beginning', but "In".... confirming Hubble, with the very first line, written some 3K years ago.
@@williamwallace6508 my question to that(not you) is ,if everything is explained would we have free will? If the Bible left no room for freedom of choice ,wouldn’t that contradict the word of God? I choose to come to the Lord Jesus after years of doing it my way, I came broken and still not believing. I choose to humble myself and listen, I’m studying to become a M.D. I’m more excited now about the discovery of the human body than I’ve ever been (money, cars, women, trips, clothes I’ve done all of that). Why now that I truly believe to I feel awesome about having tough conversations that are actually pretty darn refreshing. Hope your having a blessed day WW.
@@williamwallace6508 last thought on that, those “years” what import, is that to us now? What if those year’s covered Lucifer’s decent into hell, but we know the beginning and the ending of Lucifer what else will those years tell us? That’s were I end up with, how does those years affect our relationship with The Lord Jesus Christ, and thru the Word which can lead us in the understanding of what’s happening currently, and how the Word of God is applied to greater than our understanding effect in todays societal climate?
@@a.r.npotential150 there is no word of God, theres the word of man only. Hes a figment of mans imagination. Remember theres been thousands of gods througout millenia. All worshipped by man, and all based on faith in an imaginary diety, dsigned by man, for man. Clearly they cant all be right, and the only difference between one believer of one God, and the next believer of another is the one of thousands they happen to believe in was the last one and the right one. Its laughably silly to be so sure one was right! To demonstrate this you wont believe in the Inca God, Zeus, nor Alla? Nor for that matter any of the prehistoric Gods who were worshipped BEFORE Christianity. ..
You should listen to the “Bible in a year” TH-cam series with father Mike Schmitz. A few passages each day with a 5 minute discussion about the meaning of those passages by a theologian. And those 5 minute insights make you think of the depth of those passages in ways you couldn’t know without a degree in theology
Dr.Steve Mayer's presentation of creation is convincing. Praise be to our Lord Jesus for a great scientist. I watch him and Dr. James Tour often. God bless you both will long long long life.
Dennis Vance how would you know? That’s a very subjective statement. I’ve a first class honour in biochemistry and if you really wanted to understand this topic you wouldn’t be listening to a pseudoscientific and a scientist who looks the other way when science contradicts his beliefs. In the words of Francis Collins..... The evidence that all living things are descended from a common ancestor is overwhelming. Then you could read one of Kenneth R Millers books (also a Christian).
Dennis Vance try reading the following Christian scientists who are widely respected 1. Francis Collins director of NIH 2. Ken R Miller biologist professor and author of one of the leading biology textbooks on biology in the US. Then you really should watch ...... th-cam.com/video/w0PimDinUdg/w-d-xo.html
Matt and Cindy Thoen both state that they are Christians and I’ve shared the testimony one. Of course how you define what it is to be a Christian varies depending on which of the 20,000 or so denominations of Christianity you or they align with. You’ll have to take them at their word and do your own research.
@@pigzcanfly444 I'll be happy to debate any evidence for ID-Creationism they publish in the professional scientific literature. Let me know when they produce their first published paper on the topic, OK?
@@pigzcanfly444 The scientific community has already told them. That's why they only produce these silly propaganda videos and not any actual scientific research.
Your discussion on the video "Can the Bible be Trusted" single handedly brought my deviant brother back to the faith after 20 years. The world needs more of this.
WHAT IS LIFE? The Bible is a book of life, and this life is a living person, the wonderful and all-inclusive Christ. John 11:25: “Jesus said..., I am the resurrection and the life.” John 1:4: “In Him [Jesus] was life, and the life was the light of men.” John 5:26: “For just as the Father has life in Himself, so He gave to the Son to also have life in Himself.” 1 John 5:12: “He who has the Son [Jesus] has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.”
Christianity isn't my chosen form of my monotheistic belief but what you say is pure gold and does nothing other than to fortify my belief on God. Thank you. I love the question what is different in the nanosecond from a living cell to a dead cell and apply it to what the difference between intelligent people who believe in God and intelligent people who don't. (I guess it's the unfathomable gift from and will of God - and I don't care if people say that is a God of the gaps stance).
@@derhafi But chemical reactions don't just "stop" unless you separate reactants from products - and I don't see living cells do such separations in the nanosecond before they die. The latter BELIEVE their convictions to be true, it's actually a faith in its own right. I disagree with your statement saying the latters convictions don't have a demonstrable correlation with reality. They believe God created the Universe and here it is. A God creating it is overwhelmingly more plausible than something coming from nothing.
I must have listened to a dozen or more of these great podcasts with Dr. James Tour and I find this is the best so far! I have read several of Dr. Stephen Meyers books and I am amazed by his intellect and clear thinking. I did not know he was a Christian so it was great hearing his testimony at the beginning.
I got to learn of Dr. James Tour's work from Smokey Saint and John Maddox (Logical, Plausible, Probable). I applaud your willingness to discuss these issues and wish you the best. God bless, sir!
Incredible interview. So informative and instructive. Dr. Meyer I met you in Cambridge in 2009. Little did I realize the stature of the person with whom I was speaking. God bless you Stephen and thank you James for bringing forward those penetrating questions.
Wonderful. Love you show. Myer is a wonder and a pleasure to listen to. His complete absence of arrogance is profound in light of his hard work education and glaring gift of hyper intelligence.
@@derhafi Dont know for sure if you know how to read, but I never claimed he was a scientist, though his undergrad I believe was in physics and he worked as a geophysicist. The man is highly educated and every video debate or discussion I’ve seen him in with an atheist he destroys them. The guy is incredibly intelligent. The common denominator I’ve noticed that atheists and their peanut gallery (like you) have, is that they dismiss every single scientist who dissents from naturalism as a cook. Every single one of them, their research and peer reviewed publications are somehow discredited just because they hold a different worldview. They say show us the evidence, it gets shown, they dismiss. They say there is consensus in the scientific community, they are shown a myriad of experts who dissent, they dismiss as cooks. The real whackos and religious fanatics are naturalists, who believe with all of their heart that everything somehow magically was created from nothing. I have yet to hear anybody challenge James Tour of his assessment of the current scientific understanding of origin of life. Correction: 1 ignoramus youtuber who doesn’t even hold a masters degree challenged him, defending abiogenesis, and got decimated by Tour in a video series on youtube-completely annihilated. But I already know what you’re going to say because I have heard other naturalist fools say it-you’re just going to discredit him and write him off as a cook, despite the fact that the guy is a practicing scientist and a global expert in his field with hundreds of publications, patents, and accomplishments. It’s a complete waste of time to engage fools. All the best. Hope you wake up one day
@@derhafi the real reason why I know he’s legit is because of his credentials, not because he says what I want to hear. I could name various experts in biology or any other field who would echo Meyer and agree with him as authority figures in their respective fields and you would dismiss them all because they disagree with your worldview, as has been done by all crazy evolutionists. And no, there is no way a consensus on evolution, far from it. In fact, there is a growing movement of secular scientists who dissent from Darwinian evolution and are looking for alternative theories because its a load of crap and doesnt explain everything and cant explain the major problems in it. If Meyer is such a clown, how come every debate I see him in with an atheist evolutionist he owns them? The evolutionist looks like a fool who cannot speak substantively on the science so he resorts to childish and immature name calling and character attacks. If Meyer and ID was such a bogus and non scientific clown show, then it should be easy for any evolutionary scientist to prove Meyer wrong with science. How come that’s never happened? Wake up dummy
@@derhafi the nujob Krauss says that everything came from nothing. Plus evolutionists HAVE to believe that if you deny creation. What other possibility is there? How did the universe come into being? It was either created by someone/something intelligently or it created itself somehow through other magic. The latter is far more irrational and illogical
@@seanjahangiri7266 What you just did was called projecting. Secular science has to promote evolution by lying and distorting their "peer reviewed" papers.. It's a money grab, yet they could make much more money if they just dropped the evolution baloney. They are all scared of being ostracized by their superiors, just as a Medical Dr can be reprimanded by a state board of medicine. Just like the lie of COVID19.. What a bunch of crap.
I am honored to find out about Dr. Tour and to hear these two minds react. I've taught Biology in high school for 46 years, and God opened this evolutionists ears to hear that He's alive 10 years in. To copy James Tour, He LIves!
The most amazing thing of all in scientific discovery and the ever increasing complexity of resulting discovery is that it all boils down to a bridge wherever man comes to the final unanswerable questions. Hebrews 12:1 and 6. To me it demonstrates just how faithful and just God is. The simplicity of Christ is uniformly applied by God to the genii and the simplest of folk. I really enjoy listening to you and my spirit rejoices in answering my own faith in God. By Jesus was everything made that is made.
This has been a glimpse into the sublime beauty of minds created in the Image and Likeness of our Creator, minds that intelligently proclaim the necessity of His Existence and Genius, and unashamedly give all Glory to His Name. I will listen to this interview several more times I'm sure. May you and yours be blessed of the Lord.
Great intelligence and humility are a wondrous mix. Such benefit in spending an hour and 13 minutes with these two. Blessed by their insight and knowledge. Thank God for these people!
thanks dr. James for your podcast, thanks for telling us that being a scientist doesn't mean being an incredulous, I feel deeply glad seeing persons deep educated as you loving jesus. Keep going. greetings from dominican republic 🇩🇴, hope you seeing here someday preaching jesus in a scientist way 🙌🏽
Thank you Lord for finding this channel, thank you for these great minds that not only are an expression of your wisdom but of your love. Greetings from Mexico.
I really appreciate the fact that they focus on the questions that actually matter in Science, and that is the details on biological cells. That is where our Creator is revealed most and stumps any non-theistic scientist!
Sitting here on a Saturday morning, feeling kind of low (Yes; Christians do from time- to-time). What a lift! - to realize how special creation is; then, to realize how incredible the gift I have been given through Jesus. (Eccl 3:11). I think I'll take a nice walk on the beach.
That was incredible. These two men know very well what they are talking about. If I were an atheist I would be very worried to be on the wrong path. But truth happens two prevail no matter why or how you try to sustain the unsustainable. Thank you Dr. Meyer and Dr. Tour. You are light in our brains and souls. You put us in the correct direction. In the way to God.
@@theoskeptomai2535 DNA CODE PROVES DESIGN. Stop PRETENDING that it doesn't. If you have any UNASSUMED OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE that DISPROVES my statement then by all means...please post it. Otherwise your FAITH statement is pointless. SCIENCE proves God exists and historical records prove Jesus was the Christ.
@@theoskeptomai2535 Information my friend, information - 👉 product and result of intelligence. You will find large amount of information stored in DNA. Someone is behind that information just like there is someone behind a software or app that has been programmed.
@@thegreatbehoover788 I am calling you out. Identify any scientific study which has concluded that a god exists. Please include the title, authorship, year of publication, and scientific periodical or archive in which such study appears. If "SCIENCE proves God exists", it will be published in a peer reviewed study and you will be able to provide the citation. Otherwise, I am calling you out as a liar. I would like you to provide a citation where DNA proves design. Again, identify the title, author(s), year of publication, and periodical in which this conclusion is published. Unless you can do so, you are simply asserting that DNA is designed. I pay no attention to assertions unaccompanied with evidence as they are unwarranted.
Theo Skeptomai prove to me that your comment was designed. Please include the title, authorship, peer review and relevant empirical data to back up your claim. Failure to do so will only lead the discerning skeptic to the conclusion that a random error in TH-cam’s algorithms generated a glitch that only has the appearance of design. In fact, the comment you’re presently reading is the result of such a glitch so it would be pointless to respond to a random sequence of letters. Unless you can back it up with evidence. Thank you.
Thus is such a powerful discussion between two scientists who can present the current state of scientific knowledge to the general public. It is done without the presumptuousness, confrontational tactics of many who either attempt to defend evolution or even the approach of some theologians. I think this reflects on your profound depth of knowledge and your humility. Thank you for this refreshing video discussion of such an important subject. Thank God for making it possible to look into the depths of his creation.
Listening to Stephen Meyer talk about his childhood, and the questions he had as child, helped me realize I am not alone in the existential crisis I had as a pre-teen and on and off throughout my life ever since. I found great comfort in hearing Stephen asking my questions in his own life, and having an highly educated and scientific man like Stephen come to the answers I hoped were true.
Jesus Christ is the light of the world, outside of him there are no answers! Thank you James and Stephen, without people like ye two we have lost something deep and imponderable.
Evidence for Jesus Christ's resurrection and Intelligent design all point to a marvelous and awe inspiring Creator. It is a privilege to be loved and provided for by our God! 🙂♥️🧬🧬🧬
GOD BLESS YOU Dr. Tour! I LOVE your work. I love your testimony, it brought me to tears. And as a former actuary and patented inventor I appreciate what you’re doing so much, it has so much power!
These two guys made top notch apologetics contents, our Heavenly Father has blessed them to us at the right time.
Honoring Christ's resurrection and discussing science. What a fantastic combination!
If you want to go deeper, see the most scientifically studied artifact on earth, the Shroud of Turin which essentially witnesses the passion, death and resurrection of Christ and defies scientific explanation as we understand it. The most vocal scientist against it ended up proving the carbon dating that the media touts to debunk it was itself false, and became a great defender of it before he died. Videos on my channel if interested exploring further.
Proving History ??? is a big problem th-cam.com/video/NsJJ56fyiSA/w-d-xo.html richard carrier
How would you merge the two? fable stories and science
@@seanjahangiri7266 Comparing worldviews - there are basically just two
Either there is a God, a conscious intelligent mind at the bottom of all reality, or not. Based on Plato's principle of Contradiction and Excluded Middle: either that proposition is true or its negation is true, and contradictory propositions cannot both be true at the same time. The dichotomy that either there is a God, or there is not a God, are jointly exhaustive: everything must belong to one part or the other, and mutually exclusive: nothing can belong simultaneously to both parts.
Only one worldview can be true. If the various worldviews have mutually exclusive truth claims, only one can be true. A true system of thought must be comprehensive of thought and life. It must possess consistency and coherence in its overall claims. But most importantly, the system must correspond to reality, past, present, and future, natural and supernatural. And all major systems of thought contain key truth claims which are contrary to those of all other systems. A worldview must be consistent and explain the evidence, phenomena, and observations in the natural world adequately.
Norman Geisler:
The creation-evolution debate is not religion versus science or the Bible versus science, it's about good science versus bad science. Likewise, it's not faith versus reason, it's about reasonable faith, versus unreasonable faith.
The deepest intellectual battle is not between science and religion (which, as we have seen, can operate with a great deal of accord), but between naturalism and theism-two broad philosophical (or metaphysical) ways of looking at the world. Neither view is a scientific view; neither view is based on or inferable from empirical data. Metaphysics, like numbers and the laws of logic,
lies outside the realm of human sense experience. So the issue of naturalism versus theism must be decided on philosophical grounds
Metaphysical naturalism is the view that nothing exists but matter/energy in space-time. Naturalism denies the existence of anything beyond nature. The naturalist rejects God, and also such spooky entities as souls, angels, and demons. Metaphysical naturalism entails that there is no ultimate purpose or design in nature because there is no Purposer or Designer. On the other hand, theism is the view that the universe is created by and owes its sustained existence to a Supreme Being that exists outside the universe. These two views, by definition, contradict each other.
Claim: you are OBVIOUSLY making a false dichotomy - that is, you are considering ONLY TWO options - namely, random chance, or a god. Have you considered that there may be OTHER explanations?
Reply: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If the claim is that other worldviews exist, the claimer must be able to back up the claim, otherwise, it can be dismissed without evidence.
Any worldview is limited in that it does not grant absolute truth, but only yields degrees of probability or likelihood. Bayesian inference is a method of statistical inference in which Bayes' theorem is used to update the probability of a hypothesis as more evidence or information becomes available. Bayesian inference has found application in a wide range of activities, including science, theology, and philosophy. After careful examination, all we can do is come to instant-deduction to the best explanation.
1. Accepting the best explanation maximizes the robustness of one’s position relative to accepting any other available explanatory hypothesis.
2. It is reasonable to maximize the robustness of one’s position.
3. One of the explanatory hypotheses should be accepted.
4. Thus: It is reasonable to accept the best explanation. 6
Either there is a God - creator and causal agency of the universe, or not. God either exists or he doesn’t. These are the only two possible explanations. The law of excluded middle is given the name of law for a reason it's called the law of excluded middle so when we say something is either a or it is not a there's no middle there no third option it is one of the fundamental laws of logic. It's a true dichotomy it's either God or not God.
Naturalism & materialism:
Naturalism & materialism:
“the philosophical belief that everything arises from natural properties and causes, and supernatural or spiritual explanations are excluded or discounted.”
Materialism is an atheistic worldview that sees all reality as the result of accidental collisions and combinations of elementary particles governed by a mysteriously fortuitous set of laws that control how matter interacts. It’s a worldview devoid of higher meaning and purpose.
“the doctrine that nothing exists except matter and its movements and modifications.”
- Multiverse
- Virtual particles
- Big Bang
- Accretion theory
- Abiogenesis
- Common ancestry
- Evolution
In regards of the origin of the universe, it was either eternal or had a beginning, in that case, the proponent of naturalism would have to give an explanation of the cause of the universe, and/or explain how it could exist eternally, without a beginning. The universe is finely tuned, so then he has the option of multiverses, where one would be life-permitting ( ours ). In regards to abiogenesis, he has random chance, and afterwards, evolution. He has to provide good reasons why these alternatives have more/better explanatory power than design.
The chance to get a universe with stars is 10^229
If we sum up the total number of amino acids for a minimal Cell, there would have to be 560 proteins x 400 amino acids = 224.000 amino acids, which would have to be bonded in the right sequence, choosing for each position amongst 20 different amino acids, and selecting only the left-handed, while sorting out the right-handed ones. That means each position would have to be selected correctly from 40 variants !! that is 1 right selection out of 40^224.000 possibilities !!
Theism:
- Ontological Arguments
- Cosmological Arguments
- Teleological Arguments
- Theological Arguments
- Moral Arguments
- Transcendental Arguments
- Transcendent eternal God/Creator
- created the universe and stretched it out
- Created the Galaxies, Stars, Planets, the earth, and the moon
- Created life in all its variants and forms
- Created man and woman as special creation, upon his own image
- Theology and philosophy: Both lead to an eternal, self-existent, omnipresent transcendent, conscious, intelligent, personal and moral Creator.
The Christian faith based on the Bible:
- The Bible: The Old Testament is a catalog of fulfilled prophecies of Jesus Christ, and his mission, death, and resurrection foretold with specificity.
- Archaeology: Demonstrates that all events described in the Bible are historical facts.
- History: Historical evidence reveals that Jesus Christ really did come to this earth, and really did physically rise from the dead
- The Bible's witnesses: There are many testimonies of Jesus doing miracles still today, and Jesus appearing to people all over the globe, still today.
- End times: The signs of the end times that were foretold in the Bible are occurring in front of our eyes. New world order, microchip implant etc.
- After-life experiences: Credible witnesses have seen the afterlife and have come back and reported to us that the afterlife is real.
1. If the weight of the Christian worldview is making sense above 50 % compared to atheism,
or any different religion, then it is rational to believe in Christ, and commit living as a Christian.
2. Christianity has at least a 50 % chance of being true.
3. Therefore, it is rational to commit to live as a Christian.
Sean Jahangiri nice Sean, what is your doctorates in? Next time listen and you may learn.
The Lord has His men, Dr. Tour and Dr. Meyer as His witnesses for the whole world.
It's great to hear these scholars speak of God's glory with such eloquent words! Making God look bigger and making themselves look smaller.
They are bigger than than any one knows as long as they have God with them . And so are all of us with Christ .
Dr. James Tour has blessed us with his channel.
Hey Paul, I just kicked off mine - check it out!
He is awesome
Zameen Z the Quran is a miracle because people believe it. So many errs.
Zameen Z You probably also believe that there is just one Koran. You probably believe that Allah was the best of liars. You probably don’t know that there are different Koran with different numbers of versus
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agreed on that my brother in Christ
The recent dissection of the Koran performed by Dr David wood and Dr Jay Smith revealed the FACT that not just one perfectly preserved koran is in captivity but the latest count is 37 having 93 thousand variances between them and counting.
David Wood & Jay Smith chop the credibility ladder from under Islam. 37 Arabic Korans discovered all different.
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Many other problems such as the must recent version only goes back to 1985.
Any come back?
Tour and Meyer together...!! Oh! How much admiration do I have for these two gentlemen! Genius both of you! Thank God for your minds!
The dynamic duo! We need more content with both of them.
Wonderful discussion
Great interview guys! Prof meyers washing (?) appears top right in seti q….
@@hpinchen9451 😂 🧦 cute!
Dr. James Tour. I have struggled my whole life with my faith. Some chapters of my life more than others. You have been a God send for me. Please, I beg you, please continue this. You are drastically changing minds and in doing so changing lives. Your unshakable faith coupled with your vast level of understanding speaks volumes.
Your brother in Christ
Seek and you shall find! Sermon on the Mount will show the way !
The god of Christianity is a new god.
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Before men conceived that god polytheism was the norm.
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This is somewhat odd if the Abrahamic god is the so called creator of the universe.
Can you identify the evolutionary origins of your religion from this chart?
ultraculture.org/blog/2015/11/30/map-world-religions/
...and the subsequent religions that it gave birth to?
Dennis Vance Adam and Eve, Abraham, Isaac, Noah, Moses are all figures of legendary writing, no more real in the historical sense than King Arthur.
There is no evidence of any exodus. That is merely a Hebrew myth not grounded in any historical or archaeological facts.
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Jesus most probably existed.
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He was a Jewish apocalyptic preacher. He was not born in Bethlehem as that story was added by Mark and Luke to give Jesus a backstory and a genealogy to align with claimed messiah.
The gospels were written specifically to promote a belief proclaiming “good news” and their bias is discerned in their content. Think of it as early Christian propaganda designed to promote the belief that Jesus was the Jewish messiah.
We do not know who wrote the gospels but we do know that they were not eyewitnesses of the events that they claim to describe. They were not written by Matthew , Mark, Luke or John as these names were added in the second century.
The gospel labelled Mark is the earliest gospel.
Dennis Vance let me take you a tour of the Old Testament
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You clearly need to read more and believe less.
Dennis Vance can I ask what books you have been reading?
Unless you are reading directly from peer review journals you are doing yourself a disservice.
Who are these “authors” you have been reading?
Dr Meyer speaks in a way that a layman can understand, and yet, you could write a book without making corrections. Thank you, both of you, for sharing your Gifts from GOD with us.
so have you seen "Exposing the Discovery Institute Part 1: Casey Luskin" on youtube
only a layman would believe in fairy stories
@@jamesginty6684 professor Dave has a very religious adherence to his view of materialistic science. I question his presuppositions strongly
@@dantheman909 : Curious argument to defend religion by using the word as an insult. Science is not a belief but a method for testing facts that has proven to be extremely successful. Creationists seem compelled to denigrate it whenever data suggests something that may conflict with old religious dogma. The whole ID argument is pure sophistry.
@@dantheman909 If you actually comprehended what he said you would by revelation realize the failed mechanisms man have MFG, are futile, feeble and strains to make any real latching elements to progress to things or any level of measurable science results.
Doing it from a sober sensible mind is what you don't like. 100% of his vernacular is sound and pertinent to all points of chemistry science field all across the board!!!!!.
Thank you Dr. Tour and Dr. Meyer. Arguably the best discussion on the internet on God, Life, Science, and the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Absolutely worth the hour and fifteen mins spent. God Bless!
James please keep making videos. God bless.
Yes they are quite hilarious. The debunking community has fun dismantling them. Keep the snake oil coming JT
@@greatcircle77 Cope
have you seen the logicked's video "Hello, My Name is Kent Hovind 4: The Texas-Sized Pig and the Hammer-Proof Cockroach" on youtube?
have you seen "Scientist Reacts to "Fossil Record Debunked" | Reacteria" on youtube?
@@jamesginty6684 Imagine watching anything titled debunked lmao
I am a Science and Math dodo. Steven Meyer explains things so clearly that I understand every word. What a great program.
You do know that he’s peddling a pseudoscience??
Here’s his bio....
Stephen C. Meyer (born 1958) is an American scientist, college professor and author. He is an advocate of the pseudoscientific principle of intelligent design.
Jeffery Kongolo intelligent design is a proven pseudoscience. It was specifically invented to introduce the false dogma of biblical creationism into schools by the back door.
rationalwiki.org/wiki/Intelligent_design
Now it’s used to sell books to unquestioning and credulous Christians , Jews and Muslims.
@Jeffery Kongolo Google "Intelligent design" and this is the first thing that comes up
"Intelligent design (ID) is a pseudoscientific argument for the existence of God, presented by its proponents as "an evidence-based scientific theory about life's origins".
Time and again, science has shown that methodological naturalism can push back ignorance, finding increasingly detailed and informative answers to mysteries that once seemed impenetrable: the nature of light, the causes of disease, how the brain works. Evolution is doing the same with the riddle of how the living world took shape. Creationism, by any name, adds nothing of intellectual value to the effort.
If people like you win the argument then it would set science and scientific research back 150 years.
@Jeffery Kongolo So you believe in "Intelligent Design"?
And most of your comment is conjecture, where have I got the idea that religion stifles science? I didn't say that, my remark was pointed at creationists and not religion. You people are so stupid
And FYI Einstein was an atheist
"A statistical impossibility is a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 10^ -50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a rational, reasonable argument." The probability of a functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 10^ -164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 10^ -119,000. Thanks for sharing. Best wishes, Lord-Jesus-Christ com
This video should have 7 billion views. The world would change!
Two of the finest proponents of theology and “real science”. This is exactly what we need more of!
I find this podcast very interesting. The more you dig deeper into the origin of life, the greater the Creator is revealed. Thank you very much Dr. James Tour and Dr. Stephen Meyer. You are the modern disciples of Christ, brave and unafraid to spread the truth amidst a deceiving world. God bless you both.
Dr. Tour I just wanted to say how much I’ve learned from your lectures and interviews. You absolutely brought the hammer of reason down on a field that was otherwise murky to me based on the information I got from popular science articles I had read and watched. I’m not a scientist but I’ve always had an interest in this area since elementary school. I had no idea how deficient the information I was getting had been regarding the state of this field. Thank you for insisting on scientific rigor and speaking so clearly about this topic. I am grateful to you. All the best!
Perhaps when something dies and we sense the loss of wonder in the amazement of what just faded before us. The feeling resonates with us so deeply because it's part of the greatest evidence for the greatest reality who is God :)
I share this statement completely
Also watch some of the lectures by Pierre-Marie Robitaille on astrophysics. You'll discover that a lot of what we've been taught about the sun and black holes is pure bullcrap conjecture without any basis in real science. He's like a James Tour shooting down cosmological theory.
We don't know what life is, but we know it when it's gone!
Yes, Thank you....for the scientific rigor that I can unashamedly forward to my non-christian, perhaps aetheist friends who prided themselves of being scientific .
These 2 scientists and Christians combined are the most important duo on earth right now! They are changing the science front!
I didn’t know you had a channel Dr. Tour! Subscribed!!!
Redeemed Bear, I just kicked off an apologetics channel 2 months ago as well - check it out!
@@Deflate2020 Subscribing now. 😊
First time here and already fall in love with your podcast. Be bless. Long live the KING OF KINGS JESUS
It's beautiful to be allowed to recognize the handiwork of the Lord! Psalms 19:1-2 "The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. Day today pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge.
Stephen Meyer is absolutely brilliant !
“The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.”
-Sir James Jeans, 1877-1946, an English physicist, astronomer and mathematician.
Nice one!
@@MrCallidus Thanks
A great "Word" (John 1:1)
@@vaughnlonganecker986 it's LOGOS, more like "mind" or logic/thought than merely "word"
have you seen "Scientist Reacts to "Fossil Record Debunked" | Reacteria" on youtube
great men honoring the God of creation,feeling blessed that i open your channel sir,God bless
Dr. Tour's one of the smartest people I've ever heard. God bless him.
Meeting of the minds of two courageous, heroic Christian geniuses. Thanks to both of you!
We love you too Dr. Meyer!!!!
Our God is an awesome God, He lives in heaven above. Awesome conversation , very encouraging and beautiful. God bless you both.
I have huge Respect:- for their character, and kind of people they are, their honesty, DR JAMES TOUR, DR STEPHEN MEYER
To565 You565 I am pretty sure that neither of these two men believe the stories in the inspired Word of God, (which is inerrant by the way) that God created everything in 6days, and that the flood was a global event, and that Earth is about 6.5k years old. I've always wondered how you can pick and choose which parts of the bible you believe are true, and not myth.
@@psalm1197
Please prove that they don't BELIEVE EXACTLY what the Bible says and stop with the GOSSIP. You are to FIRST go tell your brother ONE ON ONE his sin...Matthew 18...and then go with another if he doesn't listen. The Lord tells us this to help us figure out whether we are wrong or they are wrong. I've never heard either disparage the Word of God and I've listened to everything theyve produced.
Alexandra Hippisley christianity is not a monolith. Neither is the belief in an intelligent designer. The Bible was written in many styles over 1000 years by many authors of different age and cultures.
The main message is if there was a creator and that we are imperfect and needed a Savior. Believing on that Savior, Jesus who paid the penalty for your sin will be the ticket to the presence of the creator for eternity. That is what makes a Christian.
There are still arguments on which parts are poetic, factual, or the other writing styles.
The Great Behoover I wrote "I'm pretty sure....". So, it's my opinion, and most definitely not GOSSIP. Also I did not say it was SIN to not believe all the stories in the Bible, instead I "wondered" how they choose which stories to believe. None of that was negative, not was it gossip, nor was it judgmental. Because I believe the whole bible to be true, I find it fascinating to meet people who are Christians who do not believe the whole bible. It's hardly a harmful or negative discussion. Just plain interesting, that's all.
@@psalm1197
Again...what you did was GOSSIP. SPREADING RUMORS...UNVERIFIED NEGATIVE REMARKS. I am sure these men would tell you that it is bad enough that they have to deal with their own sin, let alone deal with all the Imagine sin the others Place upon them! Stop this vile Behavior!
The Heavens declare His Glory. Then our life and all life on earth declare His fine tuning. Praise God 💪❣️
Wonderful interview.
As a telecommunications technician I have nowhere near the knowledge of these two great Christ loving scholars but I agree with their beliefs 100%.
Praise be to God that we have people of this calliber who can tell the truth and put it out there.
I don't think Dr Meyer is not a young earth believer therefore he does not believe in infallible acount of Genesis.
My two favorite people to listen to. Shedding light on the lies current science and education push on students and the public... that life came from a primordial ocean.
A great amalgam of 2 brilliant minds. Best podcast episode of Dr. Tour!
I am a new listener and you genuinely have my administration and attention to your scientific knowledge and the grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is amplified through the work and attention given ❤
Wow, I love this! You’re such an inspiration Dr. Tour, thanks so much! Loving both your and Meyer’s work!
Praise GOD for you and your guests. I'm tired of the same old ad hominem attacks on Christians and Christian scientists. You are a great mind and thank you Dr. Tour!
Dr James Tour, I'm so blessed to have come across you (here TH-cam video) and your channel too! After my B.Sc (Chemistry) in 2002, i went for theological studies and since then I'm in ministry. My core interests are in biblical and systemic theology so I am sooo exicted to listen to and be mentored by your journey of faith!
A Jew and practicing scientist and yet a true disciple and witness of Jesus Christ. To me, you are truely my modern day apostole Paul! ... "although I myself might have confidence even in the flesh. If anyone else has a mind to put confidence in the flesh, I far more: circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as to the Law, a Pharisee; as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless. But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ." (Philippians 3:4-7 NASB)
My first sermon in the seminary was from the above text and the same has been my spiritual and ministerial bedrock!
May God continue to bless you with good health and long life as you proclaim His kingdom to the 'wisdom' of this world and also to the poor!
Shalom!
I am just a dog groomer enjoying these awesome men talking about the amazing work of God.
Wow! Im here watching this now because i saw an upward spiral vortex of vapour (same consistency as a cloud) at my gdads funeral 9yrs ago. It changed my life forever. I never thought of it that i was watching localised order fm disorder. An ordering of energy. Complex order of information even on a superficial level. Its just yet another way that this event has blown my mind.
well said,grasshopperfriendomine...
Your gdad's soul stayed in his dead body all the way until the funeral??
Praise our Lord Jesus Christ forever & ever...thank you for brilliant Scientiests minds like Mr.Meyer...James Tour...Jihn C.Lennox & others....GOD bless these wonderful folliwers of Jesus Christ...Amen3x...💕💓💕🙏🙏🙏.
i am 68. embarrassed to say it, I just finished reading the Bible for 1st time. I was blown away, by the very first line of Genesis; "In the beginning"... not 'at the beginning', but "In".... confirming Hubble, with the very first line, written some 3K years ago.
yes its a great story. Shame they didnt know about the millions of years prior.....
@@williamwallace6508 my question to that(not you) is ,if everything is explained would we have free will? If the Bible left no room for freedom of choice ,wouldn’t that contradict the word of God? I choose to come to the Lord Jesus after years of doing it my way, I came broken and still not believing. I choose to humble myself and listen, I’m studying to become a M.D. I’m more excited now about the discovery of the human body than I’ve ever been (money, cars, women, trips, clothes I’ve done all of that). Why now that I truly believe to I feel awesome about having tough conversations that are actually pretty darn refreshing. Hope your having a blessed day WW.
@@williamwallace6508 last thought on that, those “years” what import, is that to us now? What if those year’s covered Lucifer’s decent into hell, but we know the beginning and the ending of Lucifer what else will those years tell us? That’s were I end up with, how does those years affect our relationship with The Lord Jesus Christ, and thru the Word which can lead us in the understanding of what’s happening currently, and how the Word of God is applied to greater than our understanding effect in todays societal climate?
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there is no word of God, theres the word of man only. Hes a figment of mans imagination.
Remember theres been thousands of gods througout millenia. All worshipped by man, and all based on faith in an imaginary diety, dsigned by man, for man.
Clearly they cant all be right, and the only difference between one believer of one God, and the next believer of another is the one of thousands they happen to believe in was the last one and the right one. Its laughably silly to be so sure one was right!
To demonstrate this you wont believe in the Inca God, Zeus, nor Alla? Nor for that matter any of the prehistoric Gods who were worshipped BEFORE Christianity. ..
You should listen to the “Bible in a year” TH-cam series with father Mike Schmitz. A few passages each day with a 5 minute discussion about the meaning of those passages by a theologian. And those 5 minute insights make you think of the depth of those passages in ways you couldn’t know without a degree in theology
I've really grown to like these men and their works. Thank you brothers 🙏 praise the lord for His greatness and handiwork
Loved this conversation. Thank you Dr. Tour and Dr. Meyer.
Dr.Steve Mayer's presentation of creation is convincing. Praise be to our Lord Jesus for a great scientist. I watch him and Dr. James Tour often. God bless you both will long long long life.
Thank you Doctors excellent conversation.
You are a blessing to those who really want to understand. To blessed in our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
I am so excited to see Stephen Meyer and James Tour together!
May our Lord God Almighty bless you James
Two great minds. The more they inquire and discover the more humble and kind they become. Science at its best.
Thank you for GOOD PODCAST . people with high knowledge followers of jesus are necessary for peopleS faith in GOD.
Wow. Profound conversation. Wish everyone could hear it. Thank you
Profound but totally false, filled with pseudoscience and bias.
Must be a great comfort to you. 🙄
Dennis Vance how would you know? That’s a very subjective statement. I’ve a first class honour in biochemistry and if you really wanted to understand this topic you wouldn’t be listening to a pseudoscientific and a scientist who looks the other way when science contradicts his beliefs.
In the words of Francis Collins.....
The evidence that all living things are descended from a common ancestor is overwhelming.
Then you could read one of Kenneth R Millers books (also a Christian).
Dennis Vance try reading the following Christian scientists who are widely respected
1. Francis Collins director of NIH
2. Ken R Miller biologist professor and author of one of the leading biology textbooks on biology in the US.
Then you really should watch
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Matt and Cindy Thoen 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Try.....
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Was Ravi Zarcharias a Christian?
Matt and Cindy Thoen both state that they are Christians and I’ve shared the testimony one.
Of course how you define what it is to be a Christian varies depending on which of the 20,000 or so denominations of Christianity you or they align with.
You’ll have to take them at their word and do your own research.
Amazing to hear great Christian scientists and their faith in Jesus and His resurrection , amazing creation of GOD 🙏
What a brilliant scientific and Christian based one-two punch with Dr. Tour and Dr. Meyer!
Christian yes. A few parsecs away from any actual science. Just more of the same anti-science propaganda which is all ID-Creationists produce.
@@msterious8537 Feel free to pick a topic and ask them to debate.
@@pigzcanfly444 I'll be happy to debate any evidence for ID-Creationism they publish in the professional scientific literature. Let me know when they produce their first published paper on the topic, OK?
@@msterious8537 Go ahead and tell them that then.
@@pigzcanfly444 The scientific community has already told them. That's why they only produce these silly propaganda videos and not any actual scientific research.
Your discussion on the video "Can the Bible be Trusted" single handedly brought my deviant brother back to the faith after 20 years. The world needs more of this.
No, we need science literacy, not faith and not religious garbage.
@@garywalker447 No we need reason/logic and science, not you naturalist religious trash posing as science.
WHAT IS LIFE?
The Bible is a book of life, and this life is a living person, the wonderful and all-inclusive Christ.
John 11:25: “Jesus said..., I am the resurrection and the life.”
John 1:4: “In Him [Jesus] was life, and the life was the light of men.”
John 5:26: “For just as the Father has life in Himself, so He gave to the Son to also have life in Himself.”
1 John 5:12: “He who has the Son [Jesus] has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.”
Christianity isn't my chosen form of my monotheistic belief but what you say is pure gold and does nothing other than to fortify my belief on God. Thank you. I love the question what is different in the nanosecond from a living cell to a dead cell and apply it to what the difference between intelligent people who believe in God and intelligent people who don't. (I guess it's the unfathomable gift from and will of God - and I don't care if people say that is a God of the gaps stance).
@@derhafi But chemical reactions don't just "stop" unless you separate reactants from products - and I don't see living cells do such separations in the nanosecond before they die.
The latter BELIEVE their convictions to be true, it's actually a faith in its own right. I disagree with your statement saying the latters convictions don't have a demonstrable correlation with reality. They believe God created the Universe and here it is. A God creating it is overwhelmingly more plausible than something coming from nothing.
I can't believe I'm just now finding this channel. So glad to see this.
I must have listened to a dozen or more of these great podcasts with Dr. James Tour and I find this is the best so far! I have read several of Dr. Stephen Meyers books and I am amazed by his intellect and clear thinking. I did not know he was a Christian so it was great hearing his testimony at the beginning.
I got to learn of Dr. James Tour's work from Smokey Saint and John Maddox (Logical, Plausible, Probable). I applaud your willingness to discuss these issues and wish you the best. God bless, sir!
Incredible interview. So informative and instructive. Dr. Meyer I met you in Cambridge in 2009. Little did I realize the stature of the person with whom I was speaking. God bless you Stephen and thank you James for bringing forward those penetrating questions.
I admire you guys for everything you do for the Glory of Jesus Christ
Wonderful. Love you show. Myer is a wonder and a pleasure to listen to. His complete absence of arrogance is profound in light of his hard work education and glaring gift of hyper intelligence.
Great segment.
Meyer is simply brilliant. I cant help but watch ALL of his videos, especially his debates with atheists. The man is an intellectual powerhouse
@@derhafi Dont know for sure if you know how to read, but I never claimed he was a scientist, though his undergrad I believe was in physics and he worked as a geophysicist. The man is highly educated and every video debate or discussion I’ve seen him in with an atheist he destroys them. The guy is incredibly intelligent. The common denominator I’ve noticed that atheists and their peanut gallery (like you) have, is that they dismiss every single scientist who dissents from naturalism as a cook. Every single one of them, their research and peer reviewed publications are somehow discredited just because they hold a different worldview. They say show us the evidence, it gets shown, they dismiss. They say there is consensus in the scientific community, they are shown a myriad of experts who dissent, they dismiss as cooks. The real whackos and religious fanatics are naturalists, who believe with all of their heart that everything somehow magically was created from nothing. I have yet to hear anybody challenge James Tour of his assessment of the current scientific understanding of origin of life. Correction: 1 ignoramus youtuber who doesn’t even hold a masters degree challenged him, defending abiogenesis, and got decimated by Tour in a video series on youtube-completely annihilated. But I already know what you’re going to say because I have heard other naturalist fools say it-you’re just going to discredit him and write him off as a cook, despite the fact that the guy is a practicing scientist and a global expert in his field with hundreds of publications, patents, and accomplishments. It’s a complete waste of time to engage fools. All the best. Hope you wake up one day
@@derhafi the real reason why I know he’s legit is because of his credentials, not because he says what I want to hear. I could name various experts in biology or any other field who would echo Meyer and agree with him as authority figures in their respective fields and you would dismiss them all because they disagree with your worldview, as has been done by all crazy evolutionists. And no, there is no way a consensus on evolution, far from it. In fact, there is a growing movement of secular scientists who dissent from Darwinian evolution and are looking for alternative theories because its a load of crap and doesnt explain everything and cant explain the major problems in it. If Meyer is such a clown, how come every debate I see him in with an atheist evolutionist he owns them? The evolutionist looks like a fool who cannot speak substantively on the science so he resorts to childish and immature name calling and character attacks. If Meyer and ID was such a bogus and non scientific clown show, then it should be easy for any evolutionary scientist to prove Meyer wrong with science. How come that’s never happened? Wake up dummy
@@derhafi the nujob Krauss says that everything came from nothing. Plus evolutionists HAVE to believe that if you deny creation. What other possibility is there? How did the universe come into being? It was either created by someone/something intelligently or it created itself somehow through other magic. The latter is far more irrational and illogical
The smartest men on the planet.
he is for forcing evidence to conform to his beliefs
@@seanjahangiri7266 bullcrap
You said it!
@@seanjahangiri7266
What you just did was called projecting. Secular science has to promote evolution by lying and distorting their "peer reviewed" papers.. It's a money grab, yet they could make much more money if they just dropped the evolution baloney.
They are all scared of being ostracized by their superiors, just as a Medical Dr can be reprimanded by a state board of medicine.
Just like the lie of COVID19.. What a bunch of crap.
Sean Jahangiri
🤣😂 yeah, it’s called best explanation
Love your passion for Jesus and true science...in the face of fake news and fake science
Tku. I love both you Dr Tour and your guest Dr Meyer. You have both helped my walk as a Christian in a confused world. I too Love Jesus with all my 💓
I am honored to find out about Dr. Tour and to hear these two minds react. I've taught Biology in high school for 46 years, and God opened this evolutionists ears to hear that He's alive 10 years in. To copy James Tour, He LIves!
Stephen Meyer is an absolute warrior. Love him.
@@derhafi nonsense is the inability to accept what is factual Rob.
The most amazing thing of all in scientific discovery and the ever increasing complexity of resulting discovery is that it all boils down to a bridge wherever man comes to the final unanswerable questions. Hebrews 12:1 and 6. To me it demonstrates just how faithful and just God is. The simplicity of Christ is uniformly applied by God to the genii and the simplest of folk. I really enjoy listening to you and my spirit rejoices in answering my own faith in God. By Jesus was everything made that is made.
I am a Eastern Orthodox Christian and my faith has flagged in my middle years. Your words are helping renew my Faith. God Bless!
This has been a glimpse into the sublime beauty of minds created in the Image and Likeness of our Creator, minds that intelligently proclaim the necessity of His Existence and Genius, and unashamedly give all Glory to His Name. I will listen to this interview several more times I'm sure. May you and yours be blessed of the Lord.
Just noticed the socks hanging over Steven's head, drying in the breeze. Nice. Great cast. Thanks to you both!
Very interesting but I was disturbed in that I just could not see any socks (sox)
me too they came and disappeared ...
It was those quantum socks that appear and disappear.🤓
No kidding! It actually deepens my respect that these two really are science geeks!
@@johnpatmos1722 I know, right? Hahah! So true.
Great intelligence and humility are a wondrous mix. Such benefit in spending an hour and 13 minutes with these two. Blessed by their insight and knowledge. Thank God for these people!
I thank God I found your channel. It is a relief to find such great minds humble themselves to God.
Praise the Lord for Dr. James Tour!
thanks dr. James for your podcast, thanks for telling us that being a scientist doesn't mean being an incredulous, I feel deeply glad seeing persons deep educated as you loving jesus. Keep going. greetings from dominican republic 🇩🇴, hope you seeing here someday preaching jesus in a scientist way 🙌🏽
Thank you Lord for finding this channel, thank you for these great minds that not only are an expression of your wisdom but of your love.
Greetings from Mexico.
Fantastic!
I really appreciate the fact that they focus on the questions that actually matter in Science, and that is the details on biological cells. That is where our Creator is revealed most and stumps any non-theistic scientist!
Just listening to this affects my faith in God marvellously!!
Sitting here on a Saturday morning, feeling kind of low (Yes; Christians do from time- to-time). What a lift! - to realize how special creation is; then, to realize how incredible the gift I have been given through Jesus. (Eccl 3:11). I think I'll take a nice walk on the beach.
Looking forward to this.
That was incredible. These two men know very well what they are talking about. If I were an atheist I would be very worried to be on the wrong path. But truth happens two prevail no matter why or how you try to sustain the unsustainable. Thank you Dr. Meyer and Dr. Tour. You are light in our brains and souls. You put us in the correct direction. In the way to God.
Academic + faith 🙏
Ph.d + NSF +Mathematician + Repentance + Acts 2:38 => Gift of Holy Ghost= God's Seal Unto Redemption
My two favorite people together, how did I miss this! God bless the both of you, keep going!
I am so glad I stopped on this video and watched it! I thoroughly enjoyed it! Praise God and praise Jesus!
God bless you Dr. Tour🙏❤️
At nearly every turn behind it all is a mind. There is just no escaping it.
What observation led to this conclusion? I haven't observed any mind.
@@theoskeptomai2535 DNA CODE PROVES DESIGN. Stop PRETENDING that it doesn't. If you have any UNASSUMED OBSERVATIONAL EVIDENCE that DISPROVES my statement then by all means...please post it. Otherwise your FAITH statement is pointless. SCIENCE proves God exists and historical records prove Jesus was the Christ.
@@theoskeptomai2535 Information my friend, information - 👉 product and result of intelligence. You will find large amount of information stored in DNA. Someone is behind that information just like there is someone behind a software or app that has been programmed.
@@thegreatbehoover788 I am calling you out. Identify any scientific study which has concluded that a god exists. Please include the title, authorship, year of publication, and scientific periodical or archive in which such study appears. If "SCIENCE proves God exists", it will be published in a peer reviewed study and you will be able to provide the citation. Otherwise, I am calling you out as a liar.
I would like you to provide a citation where DNA proves design. Again, identify the title, author(s), year of publication, and periodical in which this conclusion is published. Unless you can do so, you are simply asserting that DNA is designed. I pay no attention to assertions unaccompanied with evidence as they are unwarranted.
Theo Skeptomai prove to me that your comment was designed. Please include the title, authorship, peer review and relevant empirical data to back up your claim. Failure to do so will only lead the discerning skeptic to the conclusion that a random error in TH-cam’s algorithms generated a glitch that only has the appearance of design. In fact, the comment you’re presently reading is the result of such a glitch so it would be pointless to respond to a random sequence of letters. Unless you can back it up with evidence. Thank you.
Thus is such a powerful discussion between two scientists who can present the current state of scientific knowledge to the general public. It is done without the presumptuousness, confrontational tactics of many who either attempt to defend evolution or even the approach of some theologians. I think this reflects on your profound depth of knowledge and your humility. Thank you for this refreshing video discussion of such an important subject. Thank God for making it possible to look into the depths of his creation.
Listening to Stephen Meyer talk about his childhood, and the questions he had as child, helped me realize I am not alone in the existential crisis I had as a pre-teen and on and off throughout my life ever since. I found great comfort in hearing Stephen asking my questions in his own life, and having an highly educated and scientific man like Stephen come to the answers I hoped were true.
Dr. Tour is so fascinating and a joy to listen to. Science and Religion compliment each other , he can explain why.
Great to watch them both discuss.
Plz do it regularly
Meyer is brilliant. Loved his book Return of the God Hypothesis.
Great discussion as well!
Thank you for this discussion, fellows. Fascinating.
Jesus Christ is the light of the world, outside of him there are no answers! Thank you James and Stephen, without people like ye two we have lost something deep and imponderable.
God bless you, Sir! You have changed my family’s life.
Evidence for Jesus Christ's resurrection and Intelligent design all point to a marvelous and awe inspiring Creator. It is a privilege to be loved and provided for by our God! 🙂♥️🧬🧬🧬
GOD BLESS YOU Dr. Tour! I LOVE your work. I love your testimony, it brought me to tears. And as a former actuary and patented inventor I appreciate what you’re doing so much, it has so much power!
God bless you, the work you do, and the faith to answer your calling!
OMG just saw this. Excellent collaboration.
And GOD bless you Dr Tour.