Oda Put More Into Thriller Bark Than I Realized | One Piece and Literature
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Its semi well documented, but perhaps the biggest inspiration isnt a literary one, but rather the film "the nightmare before christmas", which is apparantly one of oda's favorites. Its explains the looks of hogback and cindry, who are similar to finklestein and sally, with a likewise relationship only romantic and a wee bit creepier, brook is styled after jack skellington (mixed with saul "slash" hudson apparently, although this bit isnt confirmed, just highly speculated) and moriah takes on the role of oogie boogie, through his use of shadows and general sack-like body shape
Buggy was also originally named Boogie, but Oda changed it after watching the film and seeing Oogie Boogie
@@camelkingclarith Funnily enough, Luffy calls Buggy Boogie in the live-action version!
While Thriller Bark isn’t one of my favorites, there is one thing in it that is pretty consistent (for the most part). The humor. This arc is honestly one of the funniest ones.
With the exception of Sanji, the character humor of the Straw Hats works so well in this one. From Usopp’s pessimism to Franky rapidly building things to Robin finally being herself after everything that happened in Enies Lobby, it does not really miss for me.
And it also has great character development for the majority of the Straw Hat crew, especially Zoro and Usopp. So while it may be a bit weak in some areas, Thriller Bark does manage to be pretty memorable when it counts.
Most people see the thriller bark arc as a filler..
@@notrixamoris3318 i guess im not one of the most people
I think you just illustrated what I feel is one of the biggest issues in internet discourse: Confusing personal taste with quality. Also, feeling the need to rank stuff and considering the lower ranks disposable. E.g. Long Ring Long Land is not one of my favourites, but it's still enjoyable and I understand its purpose in the story.
People only want high stake after high stake, they can't enjoy something more... Smooth
@@Neil-iu2sq duh...davy back fight is not a filler but people sees it as one.
These videos are always really interesting. I'm continuously amazed to learn where Oda's inspiration comes from, and One Piece is littered with it
"I'm sorry I might make you appreciate Absalom a little" is such a funny but appropriate sentiment
I imagine the creator of Full Metal Alchemist also took inspiration from The Island of Dr. Moreau book, with the way that Edward confronted Nina’s father about what he did to her being something which parallels how the Edward from the book confronted the Doctor as well.
I was about to comment the same thing
Hey Merphy! There's a channel called "The Drawk Show" thats doing a read through of One Piece called "My Teacher Mom Reads One Piece" and the guys mom is giving probably the best literary analysis of the series since you did yours. You should check them out, they even brought you up in their latest video!
Thriller Bark has a ton of cool inspirations, really neat seeing so many all together here.
Cindry is largely inspired by the Japanese ghost story, Bancho Sarayashiki or The Dish Mansion at Bancho. Both Cindry and the ghost from the story appear out of a well, and both count plates.
With the amount of work Oda has to do releasing a chapter every week it’s incredible how much reading and research he does. And even more impressive is that they’re cohesive and entertaining. As someone who doesn’t read much themselves, Your videos have made me appreciate his hard work even more. I didn’t even know that was possible! Thank you!
He spent many years sleeping only 3-4 hours a day.
A lot of these books are required reading, besides he lives in a small village were there was nothing to do. He prepared his entire loge to write one piece
he is a old man he has read a lot before starting to write his own story.
@@petal1622 One Piece started publication when he was 22, but he published his first manga when he was 17
Yeah I'm guessing as a writer he already had read a lot of books at 22@@lelnel6242
I like characters that have defined flaws, sure Sanji's dream aligning with the arcs antagonist is not one of the trait a main protagonist should have but that's also what makes him more interesting to me. The zombies even comment how Sanji's dream is as equally perverted as Absalom's but what separates them his chivalry. Absalom was fine with Nami accidentally getting hurt mid-battle, she was his property after all. Absalom sees Nami only as an object while Sanji doesn't want his blood to stain Nami's dress. And through that chivalry Sanji came out the victor.
Zeff saw Sanji's perverted nature since he was a child and ingrained him with the lesson of never harming a woman, and Sanji will do everything in his power to not disappoint that father figure who he respects so much. Sora gave her life to protect Sanji's emotion and thus everything about Sanji is extreme, he is the most kindest, passionate, chivalries and also unfortunately the horniest. Maybe without a good parental figure Sanji might have turned out like Absalom but Zeff was there guide him.
Though that still doesn't excuse his perverted behaviour. And in Wano he made the choice to destroy the raid suit which was also his "dream" and i find it interesting that Oda specifically chooses to include the line "farewell women's bath" in that moment. I believe that indicates grows of some level. Especially considering that Oda is seemingly planning to put Sanji and Pudding together by the end of the series, and the reason Pudding fell in love with him at all was because Sanji choose to not act like a tone-deaf child with her like he does with Nami and every other female characters.
I always thought that Thriller Bark was always underrated and this just proves it! Aside some weird decisions made by Oda, this Arc its really fun overall, people should take a step back when talking bad things about it tbh. Thanks for your video!
This meets two of my favorite niches: classic/gothic literature and One Piece. I absolutely ADORE finding the literarture/history references in other things that I love. I also really liked Thriller Bark, while I know it's not many people's favorite, I really enjoyed. It was a really funky spooky fun time. Like a Halloween episode but instead a Halloween arc.
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Young Frankenstein! Someone of culture, I see!
Day 7 asking Merphy to read Slam Dunk.
It’s by Inoue Takehiko (Vagabond). On the surface it’s about basketball but it’s really about personal growth. It’s full of amazing characters like in Vagbond and it’s got lots of great humour
An unexpected Dr. Fronkensteen cameo absolutely love it
Looks like I got some new books to add to my TBR :)
You might want to look into Japanese Folktales next. Either Momotaro for Wano or Urashima Taro for Fishman island.
Probably a good one to continue this series with would be Gulliver's Travels. It has Giants, Dwarves, Sky Islands, talking animals, Pirates, and it has Japan.
Will you be doing one of these on Sir Croc and his Peter Pan's Captain Hook inspiration? Crocs, ticking clocks, the sight of blood.
This might be one of my favorite videos from you. Please do more when you can. Very insightful, and your passion for books really spilled over into this. 10/10
Oda also got his inspiration from Peter Pan. Remember when Gecko Moria cut Luffy's shadow with scisssors? That's definitely a Peter Pan reference.
Also Wendy's full name is Wendy Moira Angela Darling. Oda might have got the name Moria from "Moira".
MERPHY!! Have we considered a video about Skypiea and Joseph Conrad’s Heart of Darkness and/or Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe? Colonial/Post Colonial literature might be referenced in our little sky story. ❤
Any Video where Brook is involved ((this is at the begging of her video so if Brook doesn’t show up then idc it’s about Thriller Bark which is Brooks Arc (((The Brook Bark Arc))))) but yeah yay !! Lol
6:52 She mentions Brook so we all good 😂😂
These literature threads you find are wonderful. Your own passion for literature translates perfectly when paired with these goofy pirate islands, often pulled off the pages of Oda's own passions as well! And now Lola's arc with Absalom is an absolutely hilarious cherry on top of the cringe sundae that is Absalom v Sanji ;P
This is all so interesting! Thank you so much for the insight.
Also minor correction, Lola was a warthog not a hippo.
Another fun detail was inspired by Dracula. At the start of the novel, the protagonist takes a ride in a mysterious chariot and he sees strange blue flames. I don't remember what the anime did, but in the colored manga, the chariot the Coward Squad rode in had blue flames!
Reading Thriller Bark with friends while reading Dracula at the same time, that was a fun detail.
It really blows my mind learning how much research and care goes into every arc
Brook as Frankensteins monster is genius omg I can’t believe I never thought about it that way before thank you
Thank you for all the research you do! Not only does it reflect how much time and love Oda puts in his story, but some of these references would be lost on most readers, so your videos are always a great watch.
Thank you for putting in all the work and time in your deep dive videos, and the passion you have in creating these just warms my heart. Your passion for your work is infectious!
Just at the title this made me happy. More appreciation for Thriller Bark is always appreciated
These videos are so cool! You caould make them about every single character and Arc and I would watch them all! :D
I feel like it also took some inspiration from Dracula. How Nami, Usopp and Chopper first accepted the invitation (from a bat), were attacked in the charriot and then after first enjoying the hospitality of the well educated Hogeback (who does have a bit of Vampire teeth) try to escape, only to find out they are trapped!
I guess you should post them to both of your channels now ;)
Merphy goes- "... People who saw through his exterior.."
Meanwhile Brook- "oh but I don't have exterior yohohoho!!" 😂
Luffy tries to _force..._
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This video series has been my favourite One Piece analysis in the community, I so hope to see more of it in the future! I'm not at all experienced in classic literature, but I have heard someone compare Skypeia to Treasure Island, and there's definitely a lot of folk tales and history mixed in on top of that. Regardless of what the next one ends up being, I look forward to it!
Also, again, I'm no expert when it comes to classic Lit, but Dr Hogback's situation with Cindry always reminded me a bit of Dracula? It's so much more of a stretch than the references you brought up, though.
This blew my mind! Especially the details in the first book, The Island of Dr. Moreau!!
Now that you explained that story it also makes me think if that story had some influence for fullmetal alchemist. After all, the main character is also named Edward and deals with him confronting a doctor about his wicked/wrongful actions of forcibly creating chimeras from living things to “advance science” (i.e. shou tucker making his daughter nina into a chimera by forcing her with their dog alexander in FMA)
Not other novels, and I can't believe I didn't remember about The Castle of Otranto either, now I'm kicking myself for not having seen the OBVIOUS parallels with it, for crying out loud!! What I do have are a couple of parallels with other works, though.
* The easiest one is in the name, Michael Jackson's Thriller.
* Now, a few aesthetic references, Hogback's outfit is a clear reference to the Rocky Horror show musical (and The Rocky Horror Picture Show movie based on the musical) that takes inspiration from calss B horror movies from the 1930s, so you can count it as a double reference if you want. You also have heavy Tim Burton vibes, specially from his The Nightmare before Christmas, and Corpse Bride (one of the picture zombies is almost a copy-paste of one from that movie)
* The disturbing bath scene with Absalom and Nami is aken from 1980s class B horror film The Entity
* Absalom's design is a Wells sandwich, as it combines the Puma or the Leopard-Man from Dr. Moreau with The Invisible Man
Cool video, didnt know about those more obscure gothic tales like the Man of Otranto
Honestly, after Whole Cake I have been reading Sanjis obsession with invisibility as the programming from Judges gene manipulation being there and not active. He is still a creep.
The way you described it, it seems like Chopper's story can be applied in the Frankenstein context as well.
Choppers role/reaction to hogback in this arc seems to be closely aligned with Edwards feelings. I haven’t read the book but based on what you said this is the impression I got. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Love the video and all the work you do!
I always thought Frankenstein stories were pretty mid, all adaptations were missing something... THAN I READ THE ORIGINAL and holy shit i fucking LOVED it! Who would've thought the thing adaptations were missing were making the monster a person. "The monster" will always just be some guy named Adam who deserved better than the life he was given. Highly recommend Frankenstein The Musical, amazingly done take on the story that is also more accurate to the original than almost any other ive seen. And brooke as "the monster" is fucking amazing
What i wanted more than anything for the invisbility gag was for it to be turned on its head in WCI. Essentially that while Sanji says it's for peeping into girls' baths that the real truth was that that he wanted it to hide from his horrible family. I mean he said he wanted it since he was a little kid and I feel like Oda should have made that the real reason more than anything. Perosnally I think it is but I wishe Oda actually had it be clearly said in canon.
I've been waiting for this one for ages, because Thriller Bark is so insanely underrated.
I also noticed that Hogback and Cindry’s story is similar to the movie The Raven with Bela Lugosi.
been a huge fan of yours for such a long time and this type of content is absolutely your best work, and seeing you love it as much makes it that much better. this is just some of the highest quality content on the subect out there. amazing!
Honestly, yeah : learning Absalom's inspiration was super interesting.
Those are the kind of references you don't find on the One Piece Wiki fandom
1. It is the Island of Doctor MO-Roe or MORE-O Not MON-Roe.
2. Zombie Lola, the Zombie who is obsessed with marrying Absalom is a Warthog not a Hippo.
Otherwise great video, I'll have to see if I can find that third book and read it.
Yes it’s finally out. I been waiting centuries for this video.
You've been an absolute treasure to the community. Thank you so much.
I find it super funny, that you don't talk about the theme of shadows being stolen, while the cover of Peter Pan is on the camera - like that one zealous kid in school waiting to be asked to the board by the teacher for their moment to shine. 😂
The thing about messing with animals and trying to change them not only physically but also mentally fits not just hogback but also vegapunk
I still go back to watch the sequence with the zombie Cerberus every once in a while. It's so funny. I watch that then skip forward to Pirates Docking 6 to laugh at it too. Oh, then it's the rest of the Oars fight. Dude, there are so many hilarious moments in this arc it's diffuclt to narrow down.
I love how you are using your love for books and Chanel dedicated to books in a way that fan service us on one piece !! ❤❤
My favorite part of Frankenstein is when the doctor walks up to his creation and just casually shoves him back down into the ice because he thought he was an old with injuries
The first book reminds me of the Courage episode but he turned everyone into appliances instead of animals.
I'm lacking "regular" reading but I really love watching your videos about the inspirations that Oda took to make One Piece such a masterpiece.
Thank you for them.
Wow, who would have expected that Absalom would have such deep roots in literature
He’s definitely my favourite One Piece character now and I’m sure Merphy agrees!
I LLOVE videos like this! Thank you for sharing this for us 😊
Thriller bark has to be one of my fav season of one piece and this video just made me want to rewatch it again
Please continue doing these! Your insight on these are amazing and I look forward to more in the future. Thank you nakama!
I love this new video series you have going especially since ive been noticing just how many references oda has made to classic literature. I think alot of the end game(mainly Imu) is going to reference alot of Lovecraftian elements and if you are familiar with Lovecraft he is essentially the "anti-oda" in terms of themes. Biggest clue to this is the fishmen.
The other two were a given, but I wasn't aware of the Castle of Otranta connection! Great find Murph 😁
This was so good! Even though it's not perfect, I really do love so much about thriller bark, and this gives me that much more appreciation for it!
I really expected something about Perona too
Moria also had some Dracula connections with whole shadow thing and bat like attacks
Plus we had a whole bunch of smaller references throughout, cerberus guarding land of dead, people not having shadow and burning in the sun, salt is used in Japan to drive away evil spirits
Your literary one piece videos are probably my favorite! Thank you.
I obviously drew the connection to Frankenstein, but never noticed the other two! Great video!
I'm such a big fan of this series, it's always interesting and fun to follow and do some deep dive into oda's inspirations and his twist to them, and now we're getting closer and closer to elbaph i think it's perfect for usopp/aesop next and also bcs he's one of my fav strawhats lol
PLES READ GACHIAKUTA, its a short read with only 60 chapters so far and its sooo good, i only think you can read it online since the only physical books you can buy are in japanese, the series is made by KEI URANA
I loved this video, it makes me appreciate Thriller Bark even more
I have been really enjoying these videos. As long as you’re enjoying them thats what matters.
some of Oda's references go surprisingly deep, if one bother to look into it. oIk forward for these types of videos of yours, your book tube references are shining through :)
I really love this kind of content 😍
Nice video.
Surprised you didn't talk about ghost girl Perona. She's inspired by Gothic Lolita, which is influenced by Victorian clothing.
Love this video, I'm glad someone else appreciated thriller bark!
Thanks for bringing love on Thriller Bark! It's not very popular with the overall fanbase, but it's always been one of my personal favorite arcs
Just binged all of these vids. Definitely my favorite one piece series on TH-cam! Thanks for all your work!
originally Moriah was going to be a pastor with a split personality a reference to Stevenson's Dr. Jakeyll and Mr. Hyde.
Chopper ended up getting to the same conclusion about Dr. Hogback as the character for the first book.
Loved this kind of video as well. I notices the parallel between island of Dr Moreau and Frankenstein as well but haven't heard of castle. So that is delightful.
Hope there's more of this kind of video in the future. Only one I didn't watch is Dressrosa one because I haven't read Don Quixote yet and don't want to be spoiled.
Listen, I always love your OP videos, but this might be my favorite one yet.
I loved these novels when Teenage Me read them and I am long overdue to revisit them.
Thanks again! Great work as always!
Oh wow, didn't know about the castle of otranto. That's amazing
“See through his exterior”
Oops wait. Brook has no exterior!
yohohohhoho.
/I’ll see myself out
Edward and Dr. Monroe certainly strike me as the inspiration for Chopper and Hogback's interactions early in thriller bark
I’m loving these videos. I’m loving taking a look at One Piece through a literary analysis context because I don’t know if many other One Piece TH-camrs have done that. There is a really great channel called The Drawk Show where this dude and his mom are reading One Piece for the first time (mom is anyway) and mom is either a former English teacher or professor and she is getting it! She’s already spotted certain things and came up with points like the scar on Luffy’s face is to remind you that he is stupid because every time you look at that scar, you’re reminded he did that to himself. Or she caught on Raftel thing in Reverse Mountain? I highly recommend it. Are you sure you’re pronouncing the name of the woman right? Isn’t it typically pronounced “Heh-pollé-ta”, not “Hippo-lite-ah”?
i really thought it only references the scooby doo series because of all those gags.. this is very helpful since, as far as i know, no one is making this kind of video for onepiece
Thank you, Merphy! This was fascinating. I've never read any of the three books, and they sound good. I did see a movie of "The Island of Dr. Moreau," though. But, it was a silent film from the early 1900's, and the plot was somewhat different. (Btw, I hate to be nitpicky, so I don't want to say it. I hope that you know what I'm talking about.)
I love your videos about "One Piece," and I started watching your book discussion videos, as well. You have a bright smile and demeanor which is a joy to watch.
Much love and blessings! 🤗❤️💖💜🙏
Found you because of your podcast with Tekking the other day, please do more content with Tekking, and I am so excited to start reading because of you, so thanks!
I actually really like this kind of videos. Really insightful
this is a wonderful series of videos you've started, thank you.
There's a book series you might like if you like gothic horror and YA. It's not super well written with beautiful prose, and it does read as gothic horror fanfiction mishmashing Jekyll and Hyde, Frankenstein, Moreau, Rappaccini's daughter, etc.
But it's *fun* and I loved it. It's an adventure series of all the women made by/involved with these mad scientists joining up and solving murder mysteries, essentially.
They're called The Strange Case of the Alchemist's Daughter, European Travel For the Monstrous Gentlewoman, and The Sinister Mystery of the Mesmerizing Girl.
Man what a waste, just 12 minutes!! I know longer videos are less popular in youtube but man I could have listened to a 30-min or even an hour version of this! Great video!!
The hommage to Michael Jackson's Thriller is also obvious. The name Kumasi (Peronas doll) is a city in Ghana. There are tons of secret references.
I really like this series of videos! i wanted to comment mainly to try and help show that there are people who like these videos as much as you like making them!
I love how genuine you are
Someone really needs to make a complete compilation of all of oda's inspirations for one piece.
This week. The life action starts!
I really love your One Piece and literature videos. It's so interesting to learn about all the inspirations behind one of my favorite stories of all time. It really makes me appreciate Oda's work so much more. Good work!
this is why i subbed! your knowledge of classics lets your expirience with new literature be so educating. thanks for the wonderful essays
Absolom was also partially inspired by HG Wells the Invisible Man.
I really like this video, they just connect more and more the one piece to our world and makes us think about what we can learn about what oda took from inspiration
Frankenstein is my favourite novel, I am so hyped for this video