The moment that sold me 100% was when Cooper meets the little kid, and for the first time in this whole new series he lights up with his classic Dale Cooper optimism and gets a thumbs up.
I loved the "carsick" scene with Gordon and Albert. That was pure comedy gold as well. It's amazing how Lynch can go from straight up nightmare to absurd comedy so effortlessly. I'm so happy he's back!
Indeed. This ties into Vegas. The "billionaire." The "glass box." Is it just a coincidence that "60 Minutes" just interviewed aerospace billionaire Robert Bigelow (a Vegas native and fascinated with the "bomb.") on the same day "Twin Peaks" is airing? Look into Bigelow's background - it's key.
I loved the scene where boby starts crying and the music kicks in, I've been waiting for it since the beginning, the show is missing the music so much and it was so appropriate that the music will come back in a scene in the original location with the original characters... And I think that Cooper came back when he ate pancakes and drank coffee, he smiled and said "hey" with alot of energy, Cooper is back! The new season is very strange for the better and the worse.. overall I love it.. HELLOOOOOoooooOOOOO!
Up until the breakfast scene, Mr. Jackpots Cooper could only repeat what was said to him back to others. After he burns his mouth and spits out the coffee, And Naomi Watts yells "Dougie!" he responds with "Hi!" I don't necessarily think he's going to be back to normal in the next episode but I think that is worth noting
I figure it's the crazy thing that chops up the couple in NY but haven't got a better ideal. Maybe some kind of "watcher that keeps law over the realms. So when Coop leaves without the swap, it isn't happy.
You have to remember Bob Cooper doesn't seem right because he doesn't know how to be Cooper. He knows that he is speaking to people that are close to Cooper so he is trying to fool them. Remember the ending of season 2, Cooper's "I have to brush my teeth." Bob is going to put on the best show he can when Cooper's inner circle is around, but he's just bad at it. That's why Bob Cooper seems a little off when he's speaking to Albert and Lynches character (I forgot his name).
Before Good Cooper can reemerge in full, he must regain his lost purity/innocence. He's been Id/Evil Cooper for 25 years now, and his evil side has set up blocks to the good taking back over, so the journey to reemerge as one whole Good Cooper will take some time, and probably Hawk has to help in some way.
Stephen Clark, you're under the assumption that the Doppelganger _is_ good Cooper possessed by Bob. It's not, Good Cooper has been in the black lodge for 25 years. The Doppelganger is Bob in disguise.
The good/right cooper is not mister c (evil/bob) but mister jackpot, however since he was stuck in the black lodge for over 25 years he forgot almost completely who he was. However in episode 4 the fact that he has a reaction of his own when he sees coffee gives us hope that he's remembering little by little that he is special agent dale cooper.
Harryrocks, yeah I agree. It's going to take a little bit of time for him to get back. He has been walking around in total mind fuckery for the past 25 years.
I got the feeling that Dougie wasn't manufactured by Bob but maybe by Mike or the Giant as a way to exploit the rule of switching places to get Cooper out of the Red Room without needing Bob to return.
I agree, it was definitely Bob, cause it worked, instead of him, Dougie was pulled back, and I don't think Mike and the Giant have any interest to help Bob stay in the real world and wreak havoc there. For a moment, I thought Bob was somehow that millionaire with the box, but I changed my mind, when I heard the conversation right after Darya's murder. And that is what I LOVE about the show, all these permutations in our minds, and never-ending mystery!
When dwarf (the arm) touches Mike in black lodge, he is once again complete, and Bob's buddy once again :) But more likely, he doesn't asks for garmonbozia for himself, he asked him to release all that pain and sorrow where it belongs. Don't know, I haven't got the feeling that Mike is acting with some evil purpose. And one more thing I just thought, we know there are doppelgangers in the lodge, and in that scene, he may not even be the original Mike
Maybe, but "you were tricked" line could be referring to the fact that Bob is still out there, and because of that, now one of them have to die. I think that was a trick. As far as alternate reality goes, don't think that was the case, Coop returned in our reality, but different place that was supposed to , the idea was to trade places with Bob, but his trick messed that up. I really wish I was in the same time zone, so I can answer immediately... It's 8:01 AM, Croatia
Nice! Hellooo neighbor! Interesting point, but I think the scene with the guy after his death is Lynch showing us what happened in the time when he and the girl were looking for a guard, that's the time when Cooper appears in the box, they missed it, and then not long after, something else came through, and kills the couple.. Can't wait for fifth sequel! I'm curious if alternative reality is involved somehow
The poem: "Through the darkness of future past The magican longs to see One chance out between two worlds: Fire walk with me" reminded me of the woman with no eyes, with her being the magician longing to see.
Anybody else feeling empty without the real Dale Cooper though? I need him to make a full fledged comeback so I can be satisfied with this twin peaks return.
completely agree with you. i was wondering whether this was twin peaks or dark david lynch until the bobby scene ( i love the way the camera moved towards him as he was introduced) and then that amazing michael cera scene which was hilarious. Episode 4 has made me feel a lot better about this.
Robert Forster was supposed to play Sheriff Truman in the original show but had to back out due to scheduling. He was then replaced with Michael Ontkean. So that's some fun trivia.
When the lady says 1-1-9, I think it's Lynch's way of saying danger/emergency/911, because at the same time a bomb is being planted under the car of "Dougie".
There's a also a police car with 119 on it instead of 911. Along with the multiple red room references this leads me to believe Dougie's world isn't real
Little boy (there are three in this episode) was the name given to the Hiroshima bomb. The mushroom cloud is behind Cole's desk. Bikini Atoll was the sight of 23 nuclear test explosions the W88 is a nuclear warhead with the nickname of Peanut, A jar of peanuts is also one of the clues.
You are on the right path. Most definitely. Harry S. Truman delivered the bomb(s). Harry R. Truman (like Michael Ontkean) was a Washington state "folk hero" and hermit who refused to leave Mount St. Helen's in 1980. Lynch says it was Harry R. Truman, rather than Pres. Harry S. Truman (born on the crux of 37 degrees north, 94 degrees west - another key) who inspired the name of Ontkean's character. Oppenheimer's quoting of the Bhagavad Gita (which Ben Horne reads) is also important to note. You are most assuredly going in the right direction, concreteowl. More "fear and loathing in Las Vegas" to come.
Red Dirt Report Your comment by far I love! So glad to find another comment of someone who's not just reading into the order of the plot, but the more obscure symbolism that even some hardcore Lynch fans still may not understand.
Movies Fire Walk With Me and Missing Pieces will help understanding the show, a lot, but for full scope, it is best to watch the first two seasons as well. I don't think anyone will regret doing so, cause Lynch was and is so far ahead of it's time, it's mind-boggling! I'm super thrilled for the return of this masterpiece! The one thing I'm sorry about, is the absence of the dancing man, he made special impact with me when I was a kid! And furthermore, I agree with you that season 3 is the reward for hardcore fans, cause we can really appreciate it! But that doesn't mean new audience shouldn't take their time, cause if they never watched Twin Peaks, and they are starting with season 1, I must say, they are in for a treat, and hell of a ride! I always set the mood for watching every sequel, it must be after sunset, for the extra effect, and I live in a very secluded area, first neighbor is far enough, and most importantly, I'm surrounded with trees! Maybe not sycamores, but you get the idea ;)
Here's my thoughts guys (WARNING: this will be long). I think Bobby Briggs gave us the ultimate clue that Bob killed Major Briggs. We know that Cooper's doppelganger (inhabited by Bob) was in the outside world with the real Cooper being in the lodge before Major Briggs died. Bobby said that the last person who saw his dad was Agent Cooper a day before Briggs died in a fire at work. I think it's obvious that Bob saw that Briggs was getting too close/knew too much and therefore killed him. I think it's reaching to say that he was decapitated and is that body in the bed. Also, I do agree that Bob manufactured Dougie Jones. I think for the sole purpose of that doppelganger to switch with the real Cooper when Cooper finally left the lodge instead of switching with Bob. We saw Bob resisting to be pulled back in. It would buy him more time for whatever his purpose is (which I believe is to inhabit a new body). Whatever these aliens (other worldly beings, I'm gonna call them aliens) are, we see that they've manipulated ways to inhabit humans/travel through currents/ enter between their world and the real world. I think that they are curious. We see that some are good or neutral, while others seek power and pleasure (Bob). Bob wanted to be Laura because of her lifestyle and probably saw ultimate pleasure. Bob feeds from fear and pleasure. She didn't allow him this. I feel as though Bob is seeking to become Gordon Cole next for his status in the Bureau. Bob kept asking Cole to debrief him. However, some of the good aliens have reached out to Cooper both in the old and new series. It seems they have done this because they don't want to ruin the way humans live, but merely observe. They're trying to repave the destructive path of Bob. To show that this was not their intentions and that this is Bob's doing. Which leads me to the hotel casino scenes. I do believe we are looking at the real Cooper being reacquainted to the world again. He's been in limbo for 25 years. I assume it's going to take a while for him to become his old self. But in the meantime, it looks as though the good guys inside the lodge are trying to not help Cooper, but Dougie Jones' family in the process. Cooper took Dougie Jones' place in the world. We gather that Dougie Jones led a terrible life (owed debts, gambling issues, looks like he spent $800 on a prostitute, was almost assassinated). We can hold Bob responsible if Bob did create Dougie. I think the lodge had Cooper win all that money to help that family that was innocent and probably in debt because of something Bob did. I don't think Dougie Jones' family was manufactured. I mean even their son looks like he could be adopted and that would make sense because I don't believe the aliens or doppelgangers could reproduce with humans. Those are just a few off the top of my head. None of my theories make you have a leap of faith but are pretty straight forward. Let me know what you think.
Thanks for your comment! That's interesting that BOB could be going after Gordon Cole. That Dougie Jones' family was not manufactured also makes more sense. But the owl in the sky was bothering me.
I loved the Mr. Jackpots scene. It was just adorably funny, especially the little elderly woman who named Dale Mr. Jackpots 😆 (First time watching The Return, right here, btw, and I'm really enjoying you guys' breakdowns of the episodes so far! 👍)
It's worth mentioning that during the nearly unwatchable vomit scene with doppelgänger Cooper in the car, he's throwing up corn -- a callback to the grandson's magic trick, but also the comments about corn in some of the black lodge/possession scenes. And imho, I think the two false pseudo-Coopers (Dougie and Bob) have split the real Agent Cooper's consciousness into two bodies when he left the black lodge. One has Coop's body, but no mind, and the other has Coop's mind in a foreign (Bob Coop's) body. So perhaps the task will be unite these two. Happy watching. I'm still skeptical about the whole enterprise, but I'm keeping an open mind and am glad to see more of this continuing experiment. Thanks for your thoughts! -t.
+Black Sun Rising Yeah one must die. That's probably why doppelArm tried to scrub out Cooper when it said "non-existent" because that's what it's return to the Red Room meant: death.
creamed corn is the manifestation of garmonbozia. or so it would seem from the ending of fire walk with me. the arm "connects" to Mike's missing arm, they ask BOB for their garmonbozia (pain and suffering) BOB "sucks" blood from Leland into his hand, throws it on the floor, it becomes creamed corn and the arm eats it.
Mr. C is not Bob. He is Cooper's doppelganger. Bob is something else entirely. Also Albert doesn't hate everything. He loves everything. That's the point.
Great insights! I'm wondering if captured Bob Cooper is in some way different after his "attack" or if he was just pretending to be as much like "real Cooper" as he could? I think something about the "arm" calling Cooper "non-existent" prior to kicking him out of the black lodge is meaningful in some way...also, I always assumed that the reason that Mike threw the ring into the train car to Laura in FWWM was to protect her in some way from Bob taking her soul, but now with Dougie having it on (plus Theresa Banks) I'm not sure what to make of it...
I think the arm was upset that evil Cooper hadn't arrived yet. Good Cooper wasn't supposed to leave until after evil Cooper got back. The arm might just have been confused and trying to say to good Cooper: You're not supposed to be here.
Mr.Jackpots seemed to have some sort of reaction/recognition to coffee. Also the pancakes, it makes me wonder what will happen if he has some cherry pie too. Do you think as he's slowly reintroduced to things his memory will return and he'll be the Dale Cooper we all know and love? Also, when BOB threw up his garmonbozia he seemed to have lost his ability to successfully imitate a human being, Dougie also threw up some garmonbozia before he was transported to the Black Lodge waiting room. Perhaps BOB used pain and suffering and implanted it into a construct to make a human being. He needed pain and suffering in order to make himself more human. In Fire Walk with me BOB took garmonbozia from Laura Palmer. The Laura in the waiting room is as bizarre and alien as the rest of the Black Lodge characters. Maybe there is a connection?
Okay while you were talking two additional WTF moments came: Cooper plays a one-armed bandit in the casino. Also I've never realized that the black lodge is indeed a red room (redrum) and that has to do something with its reverse counterpart: murder. (It should have been obvious from The Shining.) Also one more thing Rancho Rosa with its logo is too obviously connected to the Double R Diner logo.
In the Secret History of Twin Peaks, the final entry is done by Major Briggs and he says something is very wrong with Cooper (who had come to his house to visit him). This could of been why he was killed. From the clues we had, I always figured that Major Briggs was going to be the one to free Cooper. He had been to the lodges before, he had been told Cooper was in the Lodge by Sarah Palmer (though it's Windom Earle speaking thru her) so it just made sense to me that he would be the one to help Coop escape. Sadly, the actor passed away, so we'll never know. Atleast we got to see him briefly.
I really hope not, Major Briggs was my favorite character in whole the series and I really hope that's not the last image they show of him this dead headless body in the bed, it would be so wrong! He needs something more much dignified and fitting to his character, showing his face was good, but I just hope he'snot the body!
On a similar topic, Bowie never filmed any scenes before his death, correct? So even though Jeffries has been mentioned, chances are he won't show up. It would be cool if we got more information on him, like why he disappeared for two years, went to the Bob-Mike meetings over the convenience story (Judy's), and why he would be helping Bob/Coop.
Guys, Hello from Hawaii. Just a little info here. The girl that says to to coop , Hurry my mother is coming is Ronette Polansky and also Mulholland Drive was supposed to be Audrey Horn going to Hollywood. Dig your breakdowns. Aloha
The body is absolutely Maj Briggs. Don't forget the identity was militarily classified. Bobby: Dad, what is it you do exactly? Briggs: That's classified.
Absolutely love the revival so far! I was hoping to dive deeper into the mythology of the lodge and its denizens, and at the same time keep the storytelling in the fashion of Lost Highway, Mulholland Dr. and Inland Empire. Home run so far.
BTW (not sure if anyone mentioned this already), notice how on the sign of "Rancho Rosa" the two R's are encircled (in red) - possibly a reference to the double R diner?
Thanks guys for another great breakdown vid! I wonder if Coop is just so messed up because he was in a Lodge for so long! 25 years is quarter of a century afterall and everything was so slow and weird over there. He seems to just repeat after people like he's re-learning stuff. Or maybe because he's exit from the lodge didn't go as planned? The evil Bob/Cooper was supposed to be pulled in but Agent Cooper got pushed out by the evil doppelganger arm and the fake Coop/Dougie went back to the Lodge instead. Little guy in the lodge explains one of the them, real agent Cooper or Doggie needs to die. I just don't understand if the evil Coop/Bob is now weird and slow or he pretends to be. Normally evil Coop is so badass. David Bowie character was supposed to have big role in the new Twin Peaks and sadly they had to rewrite a lot of stuff :(
I don't know if anybody has said this before but the hitmen were set-up by Bob in the sense that he manufactured Dougie and had him get into debt trouble to then be killed by the hitmen. He "tricked" (said Mike to Cooper) Cooper to returning to Earth as Dougie so that the good Cooper would be killed quickly so that "Bob" Cooper could live since we're told both Doppelgangers couldn't both live in Earthly existence. Mike had Cooper drop and pick-up the key so that he wouldn't be seen by the hitmen and then have Cooper win all that money to pay off the debt (as per Watts) so that he wouldn't be killed right away on Earth. This show is truly great. Lynch at his finest.
Who is knocking on the door? Mother; Sarah. Assuming this scene takes place inside Laura's dream, her greatest fear was of Mother walking in on her and Laland. Maybe it happened once, or Sarah knocked on the door and Laura was terrified. This scene may also reference Judy or an evil Laura dare not ever look at or accept: that mom knew all along, was in on it, the white horse waiting just outside the Red Room (see Lou Ming's thread Find Laura). "Mother is coming."
Lynch gives an homage to Franz Kafka in the background of Cole's office. There's a portrait of Kafka behind the agent LP, who annotated the margins of Mark Frost's book "The Secret History of Twin Peaks".
It definitely isn't Major Briggs as the neck down corpse. Bobby mentions how Agent Cooper was the last one to see his Father alive and this is going back into the timeline of just before Coop went missing. Albeit 'Bob' Cooper, which is very interesting.
Crazy thing. I often connect my love for Twin Peaks and the time frame to the Army of Darkness flick. We were all into that at the same time around here. Since BOTH shows are resurfacing, it's crazy good fun. BUT YOU mention it. You mention the guy working on both shows. And I watched ANOTHER review today for TP from a guy who - had an Army of Darkness poster on his wall. WHEN TWO EVENTS OCCUR SIMULTANEOUSLY .......well you know. Also you may be right about Major Briggs, because Bobby says his Dad died in a station fire the day after Coop etc etc
I think the blind lady is Josie. I could be wrong. I also think this is an entirely different dimension that the Dopple Arm sends Dale to. Second time watching through, this is what I've arrived at. Thoughts ?
A friend of mine mentioned the Bobby Briggs scene saying it felt purposely too sentimental and emotive as if to bring us back to the original series and also to sort of take us out too since the story is spiraling of Twin Peaks, (the town,) expanding that universe. And the ghost or entity from the box may very well be the first eyeless woman Dale encounters in the mysterious floating space room, but the second woman looks to be Ronette Polaski, she is the same actor. My friend also had another theory about the woman in the mystery room and the electrical socket that changes numerals from 3 to 15, DAle coopers room number from The Great Northern, but that she thinks it represents levels of reincarnation, 15 being a world, or return life, far safer than say life return number 3, which is pretty abstract I know, but an interesting observation.
There was a cool theory on Reddit that the back and forth footage of Cooper has to do with AC/DC currents. AC transfers electricity back and forth while DC transfers directly in things like car lighters. Cooper moves directly once she flicks the switch.
There's number 7 recurring in episodes. First it was on a coffee cup in Tracy's hands, then it was in episode 4 where police put out all the docs connected with Laura's murder. Number 7 was on the box. No idea whether it means anything.
Your videos are a bit short, but I have been going through so many Twin Peaks Return reaction videos and you guys are by far the best! Please go more in-depth and make longer videos, you two are the only opinions that I want hear dissect the episodes.
119 is the imprint on norcos which is 500mg Tylenol and 10 mg hydrocodone. Which is weird because she is injecting something and I don't think you can do that with those. Might be a mistake if it's not a reference to something else.
In FWWM there was an electricity pole with the number 6 on it, it was a couple of shots with that number as the focus, do you have any idea what that number was for? I think it was even in the same font as in the room with the blind woman, with the number 15 and 3 on the power outlet? Could the numbers signify a destination for where you end up if you travel through it?
Im going to go ahead and reply to myself that yes, that pole with the number 6 on it finally appeared in this season, and in episode 6 coincidentally? :p
Mr. C (Evil Cooper, Bob) escaped being pulled back into the Black Lodge by being in an extremely remote area with no electricity anywhere close. They kept showing the cigarette lighter because Mr. C was worried he may be pulled through it but it must not of generated enough electricity. This appears to me to of been the plan he spoke of but it was not his intention to wreck the car.
The Dougie world is the fantasy world, like with Mulholand Drive and Lost Highway, the black lodge is where the shadow self is kept, which is Bob, but he has escaped, and the good Cooper was trapped in the black lodge, then he passed through the void and into the imaginary, which is Dougies world. When good Cooper switches with Bob he will be back in the real and symbolic and he will remember everything like Leland Palmer did before he died.
Completely agree that the Wally Brando scene is hilarious, and partly a self-mocking deconstruction of James from season 2 of TP. Also agree that the big body is Major Briggs. There have been 2 huge clues to that so far: the disembodied head floating in space and the computer search result the local police get about the body. I wonder where his head is and the librarian's body?
The nuclear mushroom has a lot to do with the force behind BOB and when some of these dark energies entered from their universe to ours. A lot of symbolism and esoteric meaning from the original Twin Peaks until now. Mark Frosts book helps, but you have to know a lot of ancient mysticism.
I thought that more could be made of Bob Cooper's interview. Bob had clearly regressed in verbal ability since his previous appearances, even repeating himself at one point as if he had rehearsed his lines. I wonder if the point was not to suggest that Bob was fading as Dale Cooper was re-emerging as a sentient human. I found it striking that Bob Cooper ends up with that awkward thumbs up sign, made perhaps as the same time that Dale is sharing it with the boy in Las Vegas.
Struggling apparitions in the horrific limbo garden loop of the Black Lodge, ghastly distortions & mind-bending glitches, the metaphysical detective with two doppelgängers, the low-pitched demented nostalghia, the subliminal depths of the sound design, the soursweet glimpses of love lost, the proximity and the presence of cosmic horror, perverse elusiveness of time.
I have a thought, maybe Coopers Doppelganger is the one we seen in The season 2 finale inside the black lodge and that BOB is instead inhabiting Bill Hastings the guy who is in the Buckhorn prison.
Maybe you should think: How it has been for Cooper to stay for 25 years in the black lodge? For me is pretty obvious that when he came out he was completely traumatized so the character of Dougie for me is in a way an effort to make the history realistic. I think He is going to wake up as the old Copper, but something needs to happen first.
I was too excited when we recorded this everybody! Peter Deming shot Evil Dead II, not the first one. The clip is from ED2. Just to clarify. Side trivia: he also shot Twisted starring Ashley Judd (Ben Horne's assistant in ep 1).
Gzus Kreist Sure, and that's something that obviously merits spousal abuse. (/irony) Also, the actor that played Chester Desmond is not cast in this season (nor is Kiefer Sutherland - Agent Stanley). So I don't know if there'll be any resolution there.
I mentioned this in the comment section of your last video regarding Twin Peaks however I feel it bears repeating that Showtime has put the original series out of order so if you're binging the series for the first time be careful you might want to go online and get an original episode list before you watch it.
My thoughts were that we have to do this "alien" creatures here. I think that the line "the owls are not what they seem", the light when Briggs disappeared which we also saw when Laura sort of "opened up" her head in Black Lodge. The "doors" like the Lodge one from which Cooper comes out,(The aphrodite sculpture was there when he first entered the Lodge so when he saw it again he thought he would be able to go out.), the 15 and 3, the telekinisis, the "non existent" line. Additionally,the fact that the figure in the "box" has the usual alien appearence. Also, if you've seen Eraserhead before you probably remember the alien baby which is exactly like the "evolution of the arm" and the figure we saw when Doogie disappered in the Black Lodge. In film "Fire walk with me" we've heard some familiar sounds again and again in the scene about "garmonbozia". Also, "ELECTRICITY" and the electric sound before the agent found the ring under the truck and disappered. I get the feeling that some creatures (in an alien concept) want to enter the human world and live unnoticed us doppelgangers. For me, having some cosmic neighbours who live their lives seeking for "our pain and sorrow" is a brilliant idea. It hits the human nature! It smashed it and comes with a message because we think of ourselves us the top predators but look at here. Someone else is feeding on us. NOTE:If you remember, when Briggs was talking about the alien project he refered to the documents with Cooper's name. Because of the time travel and planets' differences, some things we see now may have already happened back then. Maybe Cooper's name was there because at that moment he passed through a wrong pathway (as we now saw a few days ago). "Is this future or is it past". By the spacecraft scene we get the feeling that time is universal for a single moment now and then (we also know this from log lady and the map Earl had), and at this moment they can come in but we also can come out. The project with the box looks like an attempt to "catch whatever traveling around the wrong way or in other words, whatever chose the wrong pathway/door.We see a Cooper, we also see an angry "alien". Let's discuss this, if you like. :)
I thought it possible it could be an actual Doppelgänger in flesh form (and not in a human form like Killer Bob) that broke thru the glass box!! remember Bob was actually a human friend of Mike ( the 1 arm man's spirit) that whole Mike and Bob story of them killing together could lead to another whole story of Twin Peak long ago past!!
You guys are the best!!! I'm hesitant to ask this, being "old school Twin Peaks", but . . . does anyone have info or theories of who or what "Judy" is? (FWWM)
You mean the girl Bowie mentions in Fire Walk With Me? Robert Engels has said that in earlier versions of the script, it was mentioned that Judy has a sister, which was going to turn out to be Josie Packard. She was going to be Josie's identical twin, allowing Joan Chen to return after the death of Josie. Joan Chen even mentions this in an open letter she wrote, in-character, to David Lynch, asking to be written into The Return. However, given that we know Joan Chen won't be in The Return, that likely means that Judy won't be appearing either.
I think the vomiting of Dougie and Bob Cooper has something to do with their intended return to Black Lodge. The moment Dougie lets the vomit out of his mouth he is transported to Red Room but Bob Cooper does everything he can not to let the vomit out and just as he sees Dougie transported to the the Red Room he lets the vomit out. Also we heard that Bob Cooper was to get back to Black Lodge on the day of his car crash and he was determined not to. So he stopped the vomit from getting out until he saw Dougie in the Red Room and once he was relieved of being sucked into Black lodge, he let it out!
Knowing Lynch's work, I wouldn't be surprised :) Cause this floating head was too much of a coincidence! I hope we are wrong, cause I love Briggs character!
9:15. That can't be Garland's body. Bobby himself confirmed that his dad died 25 years ago in a fire a day after Danzig Cooper met with him. The body would have to be burnt and decomposed beyond all hell.
great video. lots of good stuff. - but FYI - you refer to the 'man' behind Wendy's (in Mullholland Drive) it's not a man, it's actually Bonnie Arrons who also plays the demon nun in Conjuring 2 (seriously)
The A-Bomb and Kafka photos ok, but there is a third photo when "Dougie" goes into the Casino managers office to collect his money, I'm assuming it is Howard Hughes.
Honestly the Bobby crying scene is probably making fun of the audience members who think this is gonna be the same Twin Peaks. This is something totally different though
what about nadine her eye patch and three of the deaths have a gunshot to an eye i am pretty sure its same eyes were nadine wears her patch will this lead to someone or something
He did. But it was also said that the body was never found. Combined with the extreme secrecy around his job. It could all be a cover-up of some kind. I think someone (read: Bob) wants people to believe Briggs died in a fire to cover up for something far more sinister.
Don't forget that the actor who plays Major Briggs is dead and bringing his face back was a way of paying tribute to him. Stating that he's dead is the best way to go
What does it mean when Mr. Jackpots drinks the coffee and says "Hi"? It is the last scene we see that character and it is the first thing he says that someone else didn't say. Did someone "wake up" when he drank the coffee?
So it seems like Bob created Dougie as a decoy for when the Black Lodge tried to take him back. And instead of replacing Bob, Dale got tricked and replaced Dougie, who wasn't the real deal with real mental faculties, so maybe that's one reason Dale is struggling (along with being in the lodge for 25 years lol). Maybe?
Late to the game, but I want to point out that Lynch, like some other directors, has a cast that he uses a lot. I mean half the original Twin Peaks cast were in Dune.
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The moment that sold me 100% was when Cooper meets the little kid, and for the first time in this whole new series he lights up with his classic Dale Cooper optimism and gets a thumbs up.
Brought a tear to my eye :)
Andreas Nordvall Aw I wish he yelled "DAMN GOOD COFFEE" instead of "HI".
Andreas Nordvall Do you guys think we'll get the old Coop back by the end of this "movie"? Memories intact and all...
Touching and sad😥
The Battle of Dale Cooper has begun in
The Good
The Bad
And The Dougie
This so deserves to be the top comment.
Agreed
My bitch is Bad and Dougie
I'm...so proud.
Funny.
I loved the "carsick" scene with Gordon and Albert. That was pure comedy gold as well. It's amazing how Lynch can go from straight up nightmare to absurd comedy so effortlessly. I'm so happy he's back!
That was hilarious. Albert scared the living shit out of the driver.
When Bad Cooper meets Gordon Cole he says, "It's yrev, very good to see you, old friend." The first 'very' is backwards.
There's also a portrait of Franz Kafka in the office with the atom bomb explosion.
TheWarrrenator somehow I'm not surprised Lynch is a fan of Kafka
He had planned on making a version of "The Metamorphosis"
Edward Teller was a Czech scientist who was a main mover on the Manhattan Project. Maybe the Kafka picture is an oblique reference to him.
I think it's Jack Parsons.
Indeed. This ties into Vegas. The "billionaire." The "glass box." Is it just a coincidence that "60 Minutes" just interviewed aerospace billionaire Robert Bigelow (a Vegas native and fascinated with the "bomb.") on the same day "Twin Peaks" is airing? Look into Bigelow's background - it's key.
I loved the scene where boby starts crying and the music kicks in, I've been waiting for it since the beginning, the show is missing the music so much and it was so appropriate that the music will come back in a scene in the original location with the original characters... And I think that Cooper came back when he ate pancakes and drank coffee, he smiled and said "hey" with alot of energy, Cooper is back!
The new season is very strange for the better and the worse.. overall I love it.. HELLOOOOOoooooOOOOO!
Maybe Bobby is Bob. He's got white hair and started crying when seeing the picture of Laura. Reminded me of Leland
@@bra5081😂he has white hair because he is older . Bob isn’t a human being
HELLOOOOO-ooooo-OOOOO!
Yeah I have a feeling that's going to catch on as a new _Twin Peaks_ thing.
Dale Cooper just outdid Lionel Richie and Adele without even knowing it.
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Don't forget Seinfeld...Hellooooo!
Up until the breakfast scene, Mr. Jackpots Cooper could only repeat what was said to him back to others. After he burns his mouth and spits out the coffee, And Naomi Watts yells "Dougie!" he responds with "Hi!" I don't necessarily think he's going to be back to normal in the next episode but I think that is worth noting
The girl in the room with the Blue Rose (inside the satellite) is Ronette Pulaski :)
Yes. I noticed in the credits she wasnt called by name. Do you think is just a cameo?
I believe it is just a cameo. If it truly was ronette, i believe it would have said so in the credits
Yep, that was her.
The question was who is the woman banging on the door, the one referred to as "my mother."
I figure it's the crazy thing that chops up the couple in NY but haven't got a better ideal. Maybe some kind of "watcher that keeps law over the realms. So when Coop leaves without the swap, it isn't happy.
You have to remember Bob Cooper doesn't seem right because he doesn't know how to be Cooper. He knows that he is speaking to people that are close to Cooper so he is trying to fool them. Remember the ending of season 2, Cooper's "I have to brush my teeth." Bob is going to put on the best show he can when Cooper's inner circle is around, but he's just bad at it. That's why Bob Cooper seems a little off when he's speaking to Albert and Lynches character (I forgot his name).
Before Good Cooper can reemerge in full, he must regain his lost purity/innocence. He's been Id/Evil Cooper for 25 years now, and his evil side has set up blocks to the good taking back over, so the journey to reemerge as one whole Good Cooper will take some time, and probably Hawk has to help in some way.
Stephen Clark, you're under the assumption that the Doppelganger _is_ good Cooper possessed by Bob. It's not, Good Cooper has been in the black lodge for 25 years. The Doppelganger is Bob in disguise.
The good/right cooper is not mister c (evil/bob) but mister jackpot, however since he was stuck in the black lodge for over 25 years he forgot almost completely who he was. However in episode 4 the fact that he has a reaction of his own when he sees coffee gives us hope that he's remembering little by little that he is special agent dale cooper.
Harryrocks, yeah I agree. It's going to take a little bit of time for him to get back. He has been walking around in total mind fuckery for the past 25 years.
Are there three Coopers?
I got the feeling that Dougie wasn't manufactured by Bob but maybe by Mike or the Giant as a way to exploit the rule of switching places to get Cooper out of the Red Room without needing Bob to return.
I agree, it was definitely Bob, cause it worked, instead of him, Dougie was pulled back, and I don't think Mike and the Giant have any interest to help Bob stay in the real world and wreak havoc there. For a moment, I thought Bob was somehow that millionaire with the box, but I changed my mind, when I heard the conversation right after Darya's murder. And that is what I LOVE about the show, all these permutations in our minds, and never-ending mystery!
When dwarf (the arm) touches Mike in black lodge, he is once again complete, and Bob's buddy once again :) But more likely, he doesn't asks for garmonbozia for himself, he asked him to release all that pain and sorrow where it belongs. Don't know, I haven't got the feeling that Mike is acting with some evil purpose. And one more thing I just thought, we know there are doppelgangers in the lodge, and in that scene, he may not even be the original Mike
Maybe, but "you were tricked" line could be referring to the fact that Bob is still out there, and because of that, now one of them have to die. I think that was a trick. As far as alternate reality goes, don't think that was the case, Coop returned in our reality, but different place that was supposed to , the idea was to trade places with Bob, but his trick messed that up. I really wish I was in the same time zone, so I can answer immediately... It's 8:01 AM, Croatia
Nice! Hellooo neighbor! Interesting point, but I think the scene with the guy after his death is Lynch showing us what happened in the time when he and the girl were looking for a guard, that's the time when Cooper appears in the box, they missed it, and then not long after, something else came through, and kills the couple.. Can't wait for fifth sequel! I'm curious if alternative reality is involved somehow
Kilian Gonzalez Do you guys think we'll get the old Coop back by the end of this "movie"? Memories intact and all...
The poem:
"Through the darkness of future past
The magican longs to see
One chance out between two worlds:
Fire walk with me"
reminded me of the woman with no eyes, with her being the magician longing to see.
Anybody else feeling empty without the real Dale Cooper though? I need him to make a full fledged comeback so I can be satisfied with this twin peaks return.
completely agree with you. i was wondering whether this was twin peaks or dark david lynch until the bobby scene ( i love the way the camera moved towards him as he was introduced) and then that amazing michael cera scene which was hilarious. Episode 4 has made me feel a lot better about this.
Robert Forster was supposed to play Sheriff Truman in the original show but had to back out due to scheduling. He was then replaced with Michael Ontkean. So that's some fun trivia.
I was thinking that maybe the blind woman is Josie
When the lady says 1-1-9, I think it's Lynch's way of saying danger/emergency/911, because at the same time a bomb is being planted under the car of "Dougie".
There's a also a police car with 119 on it instead of 911. Along with the multiple red room references this leads me to believe Dougie's world isn't real
Little boy (there are three in this episode) was the name given to the Hiroshima bomb. The mushroom cloud is behind Cole's desk. Bikini Atoll was the sight of 23 nuclear test explosions the W88 is a nuclear warhead with the nickname of Peanut, A jar of peanuts is also one of the clues.
You are on the right path. Most definitely. Harry S. Truman delivered the bomb(s). Harry R. Truman (like Michael Ontkean) was a Washington state "folk hero" and hermit who refused to leave Mount St. Helen's in 1980. Lynch says it was Harry R. Truman, rather than Pres. Harry S. Truman (born on the crux of 37 degrees north, 94 degrees west - another key) who inspired the name of Ontkean's character. Oppenheimer's quoting of the Bhagavad Gita (which Ben Horne reads) is also important to note. You are most assuredly going in the right direction, concreteowl. More "fear and loathing in Las Vegas" to come.
Red Dirt Report Your comment by far I love! So glad to find another comment of someone who's not just reading into the order of the plot, but the more obscure symbolism that even some hardcore Lynch fans still may not understand.
Michael Cera’s cameo was perfect
Movies Fire Walk With Me and Missing Pieces will help understanding the show, a lot, but for full scope, it is best to watch the first two seasons as well. I don't think anyone will regret doing so, cause Lynch was and is so far ahead of it's time, it's mind-boggling! I'm super thrilled for the return of this masterpiece! The one thing I'm sorry about, is the absence of the dancing man, he made special impact with me when I was a kid! And furthermore, I agree with you that season 3 is the reward for hardcore fans, cause we can really appreciate it! But that doesn't mean new audience shouldn't take their time, cause if they never watched Twin Peaks, and they are starting with season 1, I must say, they are in for a treat, and hell of a ride! I always set the mood for watching every sequel, it must be after sunset, for the extra effect, and I live in a very secluded area, first neighbor is far enough, and most importantly, I'm surrounded with trees! Maybe not sycamores, but you get the idea ;)
Thanks guys, I'm just going through this season now and this is just the recaps I need before I watch the following episode.
Here's my thoughts guys (WARNING: this will be long). I think Bobby Briggs gave us the ultimate clue that Bob killed Major Briggs. We know that Cooper's doppelganger (inhabited by Bob) was in the outside world with the real Cooper being in the lodge before Major Briggs died. Bobby said that the last person who saw his dad was Agent Cooper a day before Briggs died in a fire at work. I think it's obvious that Bob saw that Briggs was getting too close/knew too much and therefore killed him. I think it's reaching to say that he was decapitated and is that body in the bed.
Also, I do agree that Bob manufactured Dougie Jones. I think for the sole purpose of that doppelganger to switch with the real Cooper when Cooper finally left the lodge instead of switching with Bob. We saw Bob resisting to be pulled back in. It would buy him more time for whatever his purpose is (which I believe is to inhabit a new body).
Whatever these aliens (other worldly beings, I'm gonna call them aliens) are, we see that they've manipulated ways to inhabit humans/travel through currents/ enter between their world and the real world. I think that they are curious. We see that some are good or neutral, while others seek power and pleasure (Bob). Bob wanted to be Laura because of her lifestyle and probably saw ultimate pleasure. Bob feeds from fear and pleasure. She didn't allow him this. I feel as though Bob is seeking to become Gordon Cole next for his status in the Bureau. Bob kept asking Cole to debrief him. However, some of the good aliens have reached out to Cooper both in the old and new series. It seems they have done this because they don't want to ruin the way humans live, but merely observe. They're trying to repave the destructive path of Bob. To show that this was not their intentions and that this is Bob's doing. Which leads me to the hotel casino scenes.
I do believe we are looking at the real Cooper being reacquainted to the world again. He's been in limbo for 25 years. I assume it's going to take a while for him to become his old self. But in the meantime, it looks as though the good guys inside the lodge are trying to not help Cooper, but Dougie Jones' family in the process. Cooper took Dougie Jones' place in the world. We gather that Dougie Jones led a terrible life (owed debts, gambling issues, looks like he spent $800 on a prostitute, was almost assassinated). We can hold Bob responsible if Bob did create Dougie. I think the lodge had Cooper win all that money to help that family that was innocent and probably in debt because of something Bob did. I don't think Dougie Jones' family was manufactured. I mean even their son looks like he could be adopted and that would make sense because I don't believe the aliens or doppelgangers could reproduce with humans.
Those are just a few off the top of my head. None of my theories make you have a leap of faith but are pretty straight forward. Let me know what you think.
Thanks for your comment! That's interesting that BOB could be going after Gordon Cole. That Dougie Jones' family was not manufactured also makes more sense. But the owl in the sky was bothering me.
David Duchovny's return and Bobby Briggs' moment were the best bits of episode 4 - totes emosh
253. The time Cooper can leave the Lodge. 25, the years. 3, the Season
I loved the Mr. Jackpots scene. It was just adorably funny, especially the little elderly woman who named Dale Mr. Jackpots 😆
(First time watching The Return, right here, btw, and I'm really enjoying you guys' breakdowns of the episodes so far! 👍)
It's worth mentioning that during the nearly unwatchable vomit scene with doppelgänger Cooper in the car, he's throwing up corn -- a callback to the grandson's magic trick, but also the comments about corn in some of the black lodge/possession scenes. And imho, I think the two false
pseudo-Coopers (Dougie and Bob) have split the real Agent Cooper's consciousness into two bodies when he left the black lodge. One has Coop's body, but no mind, and the other has Coop's mind in a foreign (Bob Coop's) body. So perhaps the task will be unite these two.
Happy watching. I'm still skeptical about the whole enterprise, but I'm keeping an open mind and am glad to see more of this continuing experiment. Thanks for your thoughts! -t.
I asked for no creamed corn!
+Black Sun Rising Yeah one must die. That's probably why doppelArm tried to scrub out Cooper when it said "non-existent" because that's what it's return to the Red Room meant: death.
Thanks for your thoughts, too! I imagined a split was a possibility, but I think it's too soon to tell.
creamed corn is the manifestation of garmonbozia. or so it would seem from the ending of fire walk with me. the arm "connects" to Mike's missing arm, they ask BOB for their garmonbozia (pain and suffering) BOB "sucks" blood from Leland into his hand, throws it on the floor, it becomes creamed corn and the arm eats it.
I'm digging these breakdowns lads, keep it up.
Thanks for watching, Greig!
Mr. C is not Bob. He is Cooper's doppelganger. Bob is something else entirely. Also Albert doesn't hate everything. He loves everything. That's the point.
Clockwork Elvis Indeed he does.
Oh shit!!! I just realized he left the place in episode 3 and then in episode 15 is when he put the fork in the socket
Great insights! I'm wondering if captured Bob Cooper is in some way different after his "attack" or if he was just pretending to be as much like "real Cooper" as he could? I think something about the "arm" calling Cooper "non-existent" prior to kicking him out of the black lodge is meaningful in some way...also, I always assumed that the reason that Mike threw the ring into the train car to Laura in FWWM was to protect her in some way from Bob taking her soul, but now with Dougie having it on (plus Theresa Banks) I'm not sure what to make of it...
There's a lot more about the jade ring in Mark Frost's book but it raises more questions as well.
I think the arm was upset that evil Cooper hadn't arrived yet. Good Cooper wasn't supposed to leave until after evil Cooper got back. The arm might just have been confused and trying to say to good Cooper: You're not supposed to be here.
I do believe that BOB was trying to act like Cooper for Gordon. Came out awkward. That is why he feels messed up as they say. ;)
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*Come On*!! David Duchovni as Denise was priceless!! That was the best! ^^
Mr.Jackpots seemed to have some sort of reaction/recognition to coffee. Also the pancakes, it makes me wonder what will happen if he has some cherry pie too. Do you think as he's slowly reintroduced to things his memory will return and he'll be the Dale Cooper we all know and love? Also, when BOB threw up his garmonbozia he seemed to have lost his ability to successfully imitate a human being, Dougie also threw up some garmonbozia before he was transported to the Black Lodge waiting room. Perhaps BOB used pain and suffering and implanted it into a construct to make a human being. He needed pain and suffering in order to make himself more human. In Fire Walk with me BOB took garmonbozia from Laura Palmer. The Laura in the waiting room is as bizarre and alien as the rest of the Black Lodge characters. Maybe there is a connection?
That's a very good point, it makes sense that garmonbozia could constitutes the very essence of what make them more humans.
Yeah, I think about the same thing. Another thing I found interesting is that Bob Cooper threw up a ton, but Dougie Cooper threw up just a tiny bit.
yep, that's exactly what i also thought
lol!
Okay while you were talking two additional WTF moments came: Cooper plays a one-armed bandit in the casino. Also I've never realized that the black lodge is indeed a red room (redrum) and that has to do something with its reverse counterpart: murder. (It should have been obvious from The Shining.) Also one more thing Rancho Rosa with its logo is too obviously connected to the Double R Diner logo.
You guys are great! please keep these recaps coming
when Dale (Dougie) drinks coffee at breakfast.............perfect.
If I'm not mistaken in one of these episodes, they say that Major Briggs died in a fire. So he can't be the body in the bed.
Unless he faked his death for some reason.
Or a government coverup of some kind.
In the Secret History of Twin Peaks, the final entry is done by Major Briggs and he says something is very wrong with Cooper (who had come to his house to visit him). This could of been why he was killed. From the clues we had, I always figured that Major Briggs was going to be the one to free Cooper. He had been to the lodges before, he had been told Cooper was in the Lodge by Sarah Palmer (though it's Windom Earle speaking thru her) so it just made sense to me that he would be the one to help Coop escape. Sadly, the actor passed away, so we'll never know. Atleast we got to see him briefly.
I really hope not, Major Briggs was my favorite character in whole the series and I really hope that's not the last image they show of him this dead headless body in the bed, it would be so wrong! He needs something more much dignified and fitting to his character, showing his face was good, but I just hope he'snot the body!
On a similar topic, Bowie never filmed any scenes before his death, correct? So even though Jeffries has been mentioned, chances are he won't show up. It would be cool if we got more information on him, like why he disappeared for two years, went to the Bob-Mike meetings over the convenience story (Judy's), and why he would be helping Bob/Coop.
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Hello from Hawaii. Just a little info here. The girl that says to to coop , Hurry my mother is coming is Ronette Polansky and also Mulholland Drive was supposed to be Audrey Horn going to Hollywood. Dig your breakdowns.
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Mr Jackpot moves in much the same way as the "thumbs up" butler in The Great Northern, who was analogous to the Giant. So is Mr Jackpot Giant Cooper?
I think it's a move specific to those who spend a lot of time in the Black Lodge since time there is somehow in suspense/ super slow.
great vid! I will definitely be watching more reviews from you guys!
The body is absolutely Maj Briggs. Don't forget the identity was militarily classified.
Bobby: Dad, what is it you do exactly?
Briggs: That's classified.
Absolutely love the revival so far! I was hoping to dive deeper into the mythology of the lodge and its denizens, and at the same time keep the storytelling in the fashion of Lost Highway, Mulholland Dr. and Inland Empire. Home run so far.
Hi, you missed Jacques Renault in the bar! Re-watch the scene, the one with James. Renault has a doppelganger!
BTW (not sure if anyone mentioned this already), notice how on the sign of "Rancho Rosa" the two R's are encircled (in red) - possibly a reference to the double R diner?
Thanks guys for another great breakdown vid! I wonder if Coop is just so messed up because he was in a Lodge for so long! 25 years is quarter of a century afterall and everything was so slow and weird over there. He seems to just repeat after people like he's re-learning stuff. Or maybe because he's exit from the lodge didn't go as planned? The evil Bob/Cooper was supposed to be pulled in but Agent Cooper got pushed out by the evil doppelganger arm and the fake Coop/Dougie went back to the Lodge instead. Little guy in the lodge explains one of the them, real agent Cooper or Doggie needs to die. I just don't understand if the evil Coop/Bob is now weird and slow or he pretends to be. Normally evil Coop is so badass. David Bowie character was supposed to have big role in the new Twin Peaks and sadly they had to rewrite a lot of stuff :(
I don't know if anybody has said this before but the hitmen were set-up by Bob in the sense that he manufactured Dougie and had him get into debt trouble to then be killed by the hitmen. He "tricked" (said Mike to Cooper) Cooper to returning to Earth as Dougie so that the good Cooper would be killed quickly so that "Bob" Cooper could live since we're told both Doppelgangers couldn't both live in Earthly existence. Mike had Cooper drop and pick-up the key so that he wouldn't be seen by the hitmen and then have Cooper win all that money to pay off the debt (as per Watts) so that he wouldn't be killed right away on Earth. This show is truly great. Lynch at his finest.
Who is knocking on the door? Mother; Sarah. Assuming this scene takes place inside Laura's dream, her greatest fear was of Mother walking in on her and Laland. Maybe it happened once, or Sarah knocked on the door and Laura was terrified. This scene may also reference Judy or an evil Laura dare not ever look at or accept: that mom knew all along, was in on it, the white horse waiting just outside the Red Room (see Lou Ming's thread Find Laura). "Mother is coming."
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Lynch gives an homage to Franz Kafka in the background of Cole's office. There's a portrait of Kafka behind the agent LP, who annotated the margins of Mark Frost's book "The Secret History of Twin Peaks".
It definitely isn't Major Briggs as the neck down corpse. Bobby mentions how Agent Cooper was the last one to see his Father alive and this is going back into the timeline of just before Coop went missing. Albeit 'Bob' Cooper, which is very interesting.
Crazy thing. I often connect my love for Twin Peaks and the time frame to the Army of Darkness flick. We were all into that at the same time around here. Since BOTH shows are resurfacing, it's crazy good fun. BUT YOU mention it. You mention the guy working on both shows. And I watched ANOTHER review today for TP from a guy who - had an Army of Darkness poster on his wall.
WHEN TWO EVENTS OCCUR SIMULTANEOUSLY .......well you know.
Also you may be right about Major Briggs, because Bobby says his Dad died in a station fire the day after Coop etc etc
I think the blind lady is Josie. I could be wrong. I also think this is an entirely different dimension that the Dopple Arm sends Dale to. Second time watching through, this is what I've arrived at. Thoughts ?
Just wanted to let you guys know, these videos are fucking great.
Hey! Thanks for watching!
A friend of mine mentioned the Bobby Briggs scene saying it felt purposely too sentimental and emotive as if to bring us back to the original series and also to sort of take us out too since the story is spiraling of Twin Peaks, (the town,) expanding that universe. And the ghost or entity from the box may very well be the first eyeless woman Dale encounters in the mysterious floating space room, but the second woman looks to be Ronette Polaski, she is the same actor. My friend also had another theory about the woman in the mystery room and the electrical socket that changes numerals from 3 to 15, DAle coopers room number from The Great Northern, but that she thinks it represents levels of reincarnation, 15 being a world, or return life, far safer than say life return number 3, which is pretty abstract I know, but an interesting observation.
There was a cool theory on Reddit that the back and forth footage of Cooper has to do with AC/DC currents. AC transfers electricity back and forth while DC transfers directly in things like car lighters. Cooper moves directly once she flicks the switch.
There's number 7 recurring in episodes. First it was on a coffee cup in Tracy's hands, then it was in episode 4 where police put out all the docs connected with Laura's murder. Number 7 was on the box. No idea whether it means anything.
Your videos are a bit short, but I have been going through so many Twin Peaks Return reaction videos and you guys are by far the best! Please go more in-depth and make longer videos, you two are the only opinions that I want hear dissect the episodes.
Wow you guys are the best at explaining this series. For the life of me I didn't understand what Dougie was about or that he was manufacturered.
119 is the imprint on norcos which is 500mg Tylenol and 10 mg hydrocodone. Which is weird because she is injecting something and I don't think you can do that with those. Might be a mistake if it's not a reference to something else.
In FWWM there was an electricity pole with the number 6 on it, it was a couple of shots with that number as the focus, do you have any idea what that number was for? I think it was even in the same font as in the room with the blind woman, with the number 15 and 3 on the power outlet? Could the numbers signify a destination for where you end up if you travel through it?
Im going to go ahead and reply to myself that yes, that pole with the number 6 on it finally appeared in this season, and in episode 6 coincidentally? :p
You forgot to note the owl cookie jar behind cooper in the scene with the kid at the breakfast table ;)
I interpreted "1-1-9" as "9-1-1", for some Lynchian reason it's flipped.
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Mr. C (Evil Cooper, Bob) escaped being pulled back into the Black Lodge by being in an extremely remote area with no electricity anywhere close. They kept showing the cigarette lighter because Mr. C was worried he may be pulled through it but it must not of generated enough electricity. This appears to me to of been the plan he spoke of but it was not his intention to wreck the car.
I think the portrait of Kafka in Cole's office is also pretty significant.
The Dougie world is the fantasy world, like with Mulholand Drive and Lost Highway, the black lodge is where the shadow self is kept, which is Bob, but he has escaped, and the good Cooper was trapped in the black lodge, then he passed through the void and into the imaginary, which is Dougies world. When good Cooper switches with Bob he will be back in the real and symbolic and he will remember everything like Leland Palmer did before he died.
did anyone note there was actually a blue rose in a vase, on the table near the socket-portal?
Awesome Review guys... the best I've found yet
Thanks for watching! We'll have an ep. 5 up soon!
Completely agree that the Wally Brando scene is hilarious, and partly a self-mocking deconstruction of James from season 2 of TP. Also agree that the big body is Major Briggs. There have been 2 huge clues to that so far: the disembodied head floating in space and the computer search result the local police get about the body. I wonder where his head is and the librarian's body?
Was that a Franz Kafka picture opposite the atomic bomb?
I could listen to that line from Denise ad nauseam. It’s soooooo good.
The nuclear mushroom has a lot to do with the force behind BOB and when some of these dark energies entered from their universe to ours. A lot of symbolism and esoteric meaning from the original Twin Peaks until now. Mark Frosts book helps, but you have to know a lot of ancient mysticism.
I thought that more could be made of Bob Cooper's interview. Bob had clearly regressed in verbal ability since his previous appearances, even repeating himself at one point as if he had rehearsed his lines. I wonder if the point was not to suggest that Bob was fading as Dale Cooper was re-emerging as a sentient human. I found it striking that Bob Cooper ends up with that awkward thumbs up sign, made perhaps as the same time that Dale is sharing it with the boy in Las Vegas.
Struggling apparitions in the horrific limbo garden loop of the Black Lodge, ghastly distortions & mind-bending glitches, the metaphysical detective with two doppelgängers, the low-pitched demented nostalghia, the subliminal depths of the sound design, the soursweet glimpses of love lost, the proximity and the presence of cosmic horror, perverse elusiveness of time.
I have a thought, maybe Coopers Doppelganger is the one we seen in The season 2 finale inside the black lodge and that BOB is instead inhabiting Bill Hastings the guy who is in the Buckhorn prison.
Oh, so “Sock it to me” meant actual electrical sockets. Got it. :)
Maybe you should think: How it has been for Cooper to stay for 25 years in the black lodge? For me is pretty obvious that when he came out he was completely traumatized so the character of Dougie for me is in a way an effort to make the history realistic. I think He is going to wake up as the old Copper, but something needs to happen first.
I was too excited when we recorded this everybody! Peter Deming shot Evil Dead II, not the first one. The clip is from ED2. Just to clarify. Side trivia: he also shot Twisted starring Ashley Judd (Ben Horne's assistant in ep 1).
Where is Agent Chester Desmond?
Nym _ That's what I would like to know. Where did he go after grabbing the ring from under the trailer?
I really hope that one gets answered, too.
Gzus Kreist Sure, and that's something that obviously merits spousal abuse. (/irony)
Also, the actor that played Chester Desmond is not cast in this season (nor is Kiefer Sutherland - Agent Stanley). So I don't know if there'll be any resolution there.
we find out what happened to Chester in Season 4
+FJ Thomas Exactly. It's like asking what happened to Wyndom Earle's soul: karma.
You forgot to mention Kafka's picture in Gordon Cole's office.
And how good are these songs at the bang bang bar during the credits!!!
"It dun't get any bluer..."
I mentioned this in the comment section of your last video regarding Twin Peaks however I feel it bears repeating that Showtime has put the original series out of order so if you're binging the series for the first time be careful you might want to go online and get an original episode list before you watch it.
My thoughts were that we have to do this "alien" creatures here. I think that the line "the owls are not what they seem", the light when Briggs disappeared which we also saw when Laura sort of "opened up" her head in Black Lodge. The "doors" like the Lodge one from which Cooper comes out,(The aphrodite sculpture was there when he first entered the Lodge so when he saw it again he thought he would be able to go out.), the 15 and 3, the telekinisis, the "non existent" line. Additionally,the fact that the figure in the "box" has the usual alien appearence. Also, if you've seen Eraserhead before you probably remember the alien baby which is exactly like the "evolution of the arm" and the figure we saw when Doogie disappered in the Black Lodge. In film "Fire walk with me" we've heard some familiar sounds again and again in the scene about "garmonbozia". Also, "ELECTRICITY" and the electric sound before the agent found the ring under the truck and disappered. I get the feeling that some creatures (in an alien concept) want to enter the human world and live unnoticed us doppelgangers. For me, having some cosmic neighbours who live their lives seeking for "our pain and sorrow" is a brilliant idea. It hits the human nature! It smashed it and comes with a message because we think of ourselves us the top predators but look at here. Someone else is feeding on us.
NOTE:If you remember, when Briggs was talking about the alien project he refered to the documents with Cooper's name. Because of the time travel and planets' differences, some things we see now may have already happened back then. Maybe Cooper's name was there because at that moment he passed through a wrong pathway (as we now saw a few days ago). "Is this future or is it past". By the spacecraft scene we get the feeling that time is universal for a single moment now and then (we also know this from log lady and the map Earl had), and at this moment they can come in but we also can come out. The project with the box looks like an attempt to "catch whatever traveling around the wrong way or in other words, whatever chose the wrong pathway/door.We see a Cooper, we also see an angry "alien".
Let's discuss this, if you like. :)
I thought it possible it could be an actual Doppelgänger in flesh form (and not in a human form like Killer Bob) that broke thru the glass box!! remember Bob was actually a human friend of Mike ( the 1 arm man's spirit) that whole Mike and Bob story of them killing together could lead to another whole story of Twin Peak long ago past!!
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I think maybe the "person" knocking on the door is the smoke-monster-demon that falls into the glass box after Cooper and kills those two.
What about special agent chester desmond?
Distances That's what I would like to know. Where the fuck did he go after grabbing the ring from under the trailer?
Distances i dont know ...we don't talk about him and we don't know where his it too. ..😞
You guys are the best!!! I'm hesitant to ask this, being "old school Twin Peaks", but . . . does anyone have info or theories of who or what "Judy" is? (FWWM)
You mean the girl Bowie mentions in Fire Walk With Me? Robert Engels has said that in earlier versions of the script, it was mentioned that Judy has a sister, which was going to turn out to be Josie Packard. She was going to be Josie's identical twin, allowing Joan Chen to return after the death of Josie. Joan Chen even mentions this in an open letter she wrote, in-character, to David Lynch, asking to be written into The Return. However, given that we know Joan Chen won't be in The Return, that likely means that Judy won't be appearing either.
Paul Penna Awesome! I had never found that! Thanks :)
Mr. Jackpots.
Call for help...
jamesaellis haha awesome 😂mr jackpot 😂😂😂
I think the vomiting of Dougie and Bob Cooper has something to do with their intended return to Black Lodge. The moment Dougie lets the vomit out of his mouth he is transported to Red Room but Bob Cooper does everything he can not to let the vomit out and just as he sees Dougie transported to the the Red Room he lets the vomit out. Also we heard that Bob Cooper was to get back to Black Lodge on the day of his car crash and he was determined not to. So he stopped the vomit from getting out until he saw Dougie in the Red Room and once he was relieved of being sucked into Black lodge, he let it out!
When is the episode 5 review coming???
I think Mayor Briggs is the lower part of the body found arranged with Ruth Davenport's head. Thoughts?
Oh yeah, died in a fire, I forgot!
Or, that's maybe what someone wants people to think? His body was never found. I think the fire is a cover-up
Knowing Lynch's work, I wouldn't be surprised :) Cause this floating head was too much of a coincidence! I hope we are wrong, cause I love Briggs character!
9:15. That can't be Garland's body. Bobby himself confirmed that his dad died 25 years ago in a fire a day after Danzig Cooper met with him. The body would have to be burnt and decomposed beyond all hell.
great video. lots of good stuff. - but FYI - you refer to the 'man' behind Wendy's (in Mullholland Drive) it's not a man, it's actually Bonnie Arrons who also plays the demon nun in Conjuring 2 (seriously)
The A-Bomb and Kafka photos ok, but there is a third photo when "Dougie" goes into the Casino managers office to collect his money, I'm assuming it is Howard Hughes.
Honestly the Bobby crying scene is probably making fun of the audience members who think this is gonna be the same Twin Peaks. This is something totally different though
have you all watched the FILM TWIN PEAKS FIRE WALK WITH ME AND THE WHOLE SERIES ?
What or who is "Garman Boja"??
what about nadine her eye patch and three of the deaths have a gunshot to an eye i am pretty sure its same eyes were nadine wears her patch will this lead to someone or something
Didn't Bobby say that Major Briggs died in a fire 25 years earlier?
He did. But it was also said that the body was never found. Combined with the extreme secrecy around his job. It could all be a cover-up of some kind. I think someone (read: Bob) wants people to believe Briggs died in a fire to cover up for something far more sinister.
Don't forget that the actor who plays Major Briggs is dead and bringing his face back was a way of paying tribute to him. Stating that he's dead is the best way to go
Hans Kristian Frågodt Don't forget: the Log Lady's husband also died in a fire. This kind of fire is no ordinary fire. It is BOB.
What does it mean when Mr. Jackpots drinks the coffee and says "Hi"? It is the last scene we see that character and it is the first thing he says that someone else didn't say. Did someone "wake up" when he drank the coffee?
So it seems like Bob created Dougie as a decoy for when the Black Lodge tried to take him back. And instead of replacing Bob, Dale got tricked and replaced Dougie, who wasn't the real deal with real mental faculties, so maybe that's one reason Dale is struggling (along with being in the lodge for 25 years lol). Maybe?
Bob Cooper initially speaks backwards when talking to Gordon and Albert.
Late to the game, but I want to point out that Lynch, like some other directors, has a cast that he uses a lot. I mean half the original Twin Peaks cast were in Dune.