I use the fastback so much, I wore out the retainer for the bit. I have kept it as a back and purchased several more. You also forgot the 1/4 driver where the bit goes. I have used it a couple,of times when on the roof.
Great review! Thank you. I have the Milwaukee Fastback 48-22-1903 which holds four extra blades. There's no scredriver or bottle opener, but the handle does make a rope cutter when the blade is closed. The 48-22-1505 (the subject of this video) is on sale right now, online only, at Ace for $14.99. I'm going to order two or three and pick them up at the store tomorrow. I also love my Knipex Cobra pliers (full size). I'm going to add the Mini-Cobra to my EDC.
Thanks for the video, good info. I have a fastback 1505 that I love, and was shopping around a family member to see if I should get them the same thing or an alternative.
I just picked up a awesome kline lockblade knife at Lowe's for $20😊. It's got 3 stripping notches and a hole for bending loops. Razor sharp blade, metal handle, fast opener. Nice man
I carried a Swiss Army Knife Tinker for yeeeears. Love that knife. I tried the big Leatherman and a Gerber, but they're just so bulky. I love a good simple setup for sure!
The problem with that double sided bit is the ball bearing inside the bit holder. A coworker of mine has had those pop out on him multiple times after extended use. The Klein bit holder doesn't have that problem. Just a plain magnetic bit holder that accepts anything. Hex, torx, etc.. the extra blade storage is nice but personally for what I do I keep a work sharp field sharpener in my pocket. 15-20 seconds I can have the blade rehoned or sharpened to perfection. Faster than running to grab another blade but that's just me. Money saver too. I've literally kept the same blade in my knife for over 3 months and kept it performing like brand new. Just a quick touch up here and there.
I carried the fastback for 6-9 months daily as a technician, after awhile the ball detent failed and I lost the collar and the ability to hold a bit completely.
This was a great video showing the pros/cons/differences. I almost thought something had beat the Milwaukee! But no, I'm content with my many Milwaukee knifes for the time being
Another important note to make here is that the Milwaukees screwdriver is centered with the handle when opened, which will make screwing/unscrewing a fastner much easier.
I’ve had both and can promise you when using it as a screwdriver you can tell like at all both of them are more uncomfortable than a traditional screwdriver. And the .1 in off set on the Klein really isn’t noticeable. Overall I like the Klein better because you can take out the bit holder and put it in an impact or drill
Great comparison, thanks. You need the slotted head bit for many circuit breaker wire clamp screws. I was buying the Milwaukee tomorrow and figured I would take a look at this comparison. Think I'll stick with the Red.
My Milwaukee has the same colar design to hold the detent bearing, and it popped off. Other's have a 'spring' mechanism on the inside and have reported issue with it when switching the bit. One person suggested using a magetizer to, well, magetize the bit holder, another said to drop a 6mm x 2mm magnet in the bit holder.
I carry the Fastback daily, the only bad thing is, to my knowledge they do not sell the double ended replacement bits that have the retaining groove cut into them. I could be wrong, but I have not found them.
I just grabbed some Klein double sided bits. They do, indeed, work in the Milwaukee with the ball retention in the bit holder. Theres a ball in the bit as well, but it doesn't seem to get in the way as long as you don't have both balls overlapping. Overlapping balls is never a good thing
The main issue I have with these is the inability to reposition the pocket clip. Tip down carry is slightly awkward after having carried tip up carry for the last 20 years
Extra blade storage is the tipper for me. I only ever seem to need a new blade when I'm on top of a ladder, under a house, in an attic, or a long walk away from my van. Always gotta have an extra blade. Everything else (driver bits, bit holder, bottle opener) are just extra fluff on these knives, for my sake. My drills and drivers already have bits and bit holders. I have dozens of things in my van with bottle openers on them (and have never once needed to crack open a beer at work).
@@HomesteadBandwagon It's rare that I see a glass bottle of Coke. Rarer still that I'd have one on a jobsite. For the occasion I do have one, though, there's already a bottle opener on my belt buckle, one on my keys, a dozen or so on various pocket knives, at least four in a drawer in the kitchen, one mounted on a post on my back porch (next to the can crusher), One in the handle of every paint can opener in my garage, one on my paint scraper multi-tool, one on the brim a Coca-Cola baseball cap I got for Christmas one year...and probably at least ten more I can't think of off the top of my head. Of all the tools in my collection, that's the one I'll run out of last.
I love my fastback and have been carrying it for at least three years. My only gripe is the bit retention. It’s been a miracle that I haven’t lost the bit because it hasn’t locked in place for about 1.5 years. Because it doesn’t lock, the bit will slide forward when the driver is closed making it impossible to open the driver unless I have something small and sharp to slide the bit back into place. Only then can the screwdriver be opened after the bit is slid back into the holder. Very frustrating.
I've been hearing that about the ball retention. I have been carrying one with the snap collar, but I'm switching to the ball becuase I found bits that work well with that setup. Hopefully i get lucky!
I tired the Milwaukee fastback and I like it but I've had the Philips head get stuck while closed or the spring that holds it comes out 3 different times, I just ordered the Klein one so we will see how it does! I am gonna miss the bottle opener tho😂
the old design of the fastback used a spring to hold the bit; but they replaced that sometime last year will a ball bearing after feedback from customers that the spring failed sometimes. The fastback comes with a lifetime warranty, so you should be able to exchange the old faulty one for a new one.
I love the Milwaukee one but i have probably gone through 5 of them, the ball detent does not last very long with my use. I just purchased the klein knife to try out, kind of disappointed it doesnt come with a double bit.
I'm still using one of the older ones with the ring retention, but I bought 3 of the ones with the ball when they were on discount. I gave one to a coworker, so we'll see how long it holds up!
literally not having a flat head on that one kills the tool. still better than most other utility knifes but the milwaukee is so much better and i have used both phillips and flat head at random places because i've had it on me.
wow i think im gonna have to get this just for that 1/4 impact bit alone lol thats something that i could keep a t10 or 5/32 hex in since as a hotel maint i use those a lot.
I could almost justify carrying around a small Railer with some extra bits in it, but at some point, you're basically just carrying around your whole tool bag. It's a slippery slope!
Thanks for trying to help but my Milwaukee knife doesn’t have the ball retention system but rather some metal ring clip inside. Possibly works with those bits but thanks anyway. Hope you had a great thanksgiving.@@HomesteadBandwagon
I was in love with the milwaukee but the damn bit holder fails everytime and the bit gets lost. I've gone thru 3 so far and they don't offer correct replacement bits. Why doesn't Milwaukee fix the issue?
There is also a slot and retaining clip inside the fastback. Had it forever, then saw someone pull a blade out. Thought they had just shoved it in there, but no, there is a designed space for the blade. 🤯
I picked up the Klien to check it out. Yes, the plastic handle edges are a bit rough (flashing from molding process) which is a bit disappointing. Nothing a litle filing/sanding/touch-up with the Dremmel won't solve, but still. C'mon Klien. The release for retracting the driver isn't any worse (maybe a bit) than the Milwaukee. The single Phillips bit isn't a problem for me as I have a rail of those (flat, sq, torx, etc.) usually at hand. The Milwaukee's screw driver is centered nicely whereas the Klien is offset which is disappointing. The Milwaukee has better ergonomics when using the driver as the recess is nice and smooth under the index finger whereas the Klien is back under the middle of the middle or ring finger, and the channel behind the driver tang is wide with sharp(ish) edges. Overall, the Milwaukee Fastbacks have a much more solid feel. The Kien as nice detents at 45 degrees for both the blade and the driver. The Klien's multi 1/4" attachment with magnets is a win compared to the Milwaukee ball detent holder. Finally, he Klien's driver shaft is a bit loosey-goosey and the Milwaukee is solid.
I have the milwaukee on me at all times and love it - except...the stupid bottle opener!! i am so tired of bottle openers on literally everything, the one on the milwaukee is so annoying because my finger (thumb) catches it all the time. Glad I watched this video tho, I almost switched just because it didn't have a bottle opener. I guess Ill keep filing the opener teeth and wait for something better.
That ball bearing bit retention system on the Milwaukee is shite. It is well known to be shite. The bearing falls out and disappears then, no more bit retention. The older models used a better retention system. Milwaukee messed up by going to this ball bearing retention collar and need to fix this problem by reverting to the older, reliable collar.
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Love Klein. Wish they would have put the flat head in there. They are pretty innovative, so I suspect the next version will have both. ....I Hope!
The driver is also much better centered on the Milwaukee. Great review. Love my Fastback.
Milwaukee fastback + leatherman bond is a killer combo for EDC iv fixed so many things with just those. Good video brother
I use the fastback so much, I wore out the retainer for the bit. I have kept it as a back and purchased several more. You also forgot the 1/4 driver where the bit goes. I have used it a couple,of times when on the roof.
Great review! Thank you.
I have the Milwaukee Fastback 48-22-1903 which holds four extra blades. There's no scredriver or bottle opener, but the handle does make a rope cutter when the blade is closed. The 48-22-1505 (the subject of this video) is on sale right now, online only, at Ace for $14.99. I'm going to order two or three and pick them up at the store tomorrow.
I also love my Knipex Cobra pliers (full size). I'm going to add the Mini-Cobra to my EDC.
I would say that I am a Milwaukee fan. I recently bought the Milwaukee 1505. As you say, it holds an extra blade. I am happy with it.
Thanks for the video, good info. I have a fastback 1505 that I love, and was shopping around a family member to see if I should get them the same thing or an alternative.
I just picked up a awesome kline lockblade knife at Lowe's for $20😊. It's got 3 stripping notches and a hole for bending loops. Razor sharp blade, metal handle, fast opener. Nice man
Well of course it going to be razor sharp, that’s standard on utility knives.
I'll tell ya- lots of utility knives are barely sharp enough to cut packing tape. It's weird. The Klien stuff has a fantasic edge
one thing i wish the fastback had was a reversible pocket clip, so it was faster to deploy from my pocket
😂 there's the Swiss Army Knife, the Leatherman series, and now we're back to basics. Great review
I carried a Swiss Army Knife Tinker for yeeeears. Love that knife. I tried the big Leatherman and a Gerber, but they're just so bulky. I love a good simple setup for sure!
@@HomesteadBandwagon KIS...it seems to be the best way to do things for sure
The problem with that double sided bit is the ball bearing inside the bit holder. A coworker of mine has had those pop out on him multiple times after extended use. The Klein bit holder doesn't have that problem. Just a plain magnetic bit holder that accepts anything. Hex, torx, etc.. the extra blade storage is nice but personally for what I do I keep a work sharp field sharpener in my pocket. 15-20 seconds I can have the blade rehoned or sharpened to perfection. Faster than running to grab another blade but that's just me. Money saver too. I've literally kept the same blade in my knife for over 3 months and kept it performing like brand new. Just a quick touch up here and there.
I carried the fastback for 6-9 months daily as a technician, after awhile the ball detent failed and I lost the collar and the ability to hold a bit completely.
It comes with a lifetime warranty, so you should be able to get a new one free of charge.
Same thing happened to me. I was lucky enough to find the ball and the collar, I wrapped electrical tape around it to prevent another fail.
This was a great video showing the pros/cons/differences. I almost thought something had beat the Milwaukee! But no, I'm content with my many Milwaukee knifes for the time being
Another important note to make here is that the Milwaukees screwdriver is centered with the handle when opened, which will make screwing/unscrewing a fastner much easier.
I’ve had both and can promise you when using it as a screwdriver you can tell like at all both of them are more uncomfortable than a traditional screwdriver. And the .1 in off set on the Klein really isn’t noticeable. Overall I like the Klein better because you can take out the bit holder and put it in an impact or drill
Great comparison, thanks. You need the slotted head bit for many circuit breaker wire clamp screws.
I was buying the Milwaukee tomorrow and figured I would take a look at this comparison. Think I'll stick with the Red.
My Milwaukee has the same colar design to hold the detent bearing, and it popped off. Other's have a 'spring' mechanism on the inside and have reported issue with it when switching the bit. One person suggested using a magetizer to, well, magetize the bit holder, another said to drop a 6mm x 2mm magnet in the bit holder.
I carry the Fastback daily, the only bad thing is, to my knowledge they do not sell the double ended replacement bits that have the retaining groove cut into them. I could be wrong, but I have not found them.
Yeah... that's why i bought three more of the dang things 😄 i heard the Klein 10 in 1 bits work, so I'm gonna order one and see...
The klein bits are a shorter overall length I believe. It may work but there won't be much of the bit protruding
I just grabbed some Klein double sided bits. They do, indeed, work in the Milwaukee with the ball retention in the bit holder. Theres a ball in the bit as well, but it doesn't seem to get in the way as long as you don't have both balls overlapping. Overlapping balls is never a good thing
Bits. Yeah you would have a better chance finding a real life unicorn.
They do sell the double ended bit
The main issue I have with these is the inability to reposition the pocket clip. Tip down carry is slightly awkward after having carried tip up carry for the last 20 years
I really dislike pocket clips in general. I remove them immediately
@@HomesteadBandwagon I use a tirant razor daily, it has no pocket clip.
Extra blade storage is the tipper for me. I only ever seem to need a new blade when I'm on top of a ladder, under a house, in an attic, or a long walk away from my van. Always gotta have an extra blade. Everything else (driver bits, bit holder, bottle opener) are just extra fluff on these knives, for my sake. My drills and drivers already have bits and bit holders. I have dozens of things in my van with bottle openers on them (and have never once needed to crack open a beer at work).
How about a good ol bottle of Coke? Might need to crack one open while you're on top of a ladder one of these days...
@@HomesteadBandwagon It's rare that I see a glass bottle of Coke. Rarer still that I'd have one on a jobsite. For the occasion I do have one, though, there's already a bottle opener on my belt buckle, one on my keys, a dozen or so on various pocket knives, at least four in a drawer in the kitchen, one mounted on a post on my back porch (next to the can crusher), One in the handle of every paint can opener in my garage, one on my paint scraper multi-tool, one on the brim a Coca-Cola baseball cap I got for Christmas one year...and probably at least ten more I can't think of off the top of my head.
Of all the tools in my collection, that's the one I'll run out of last.
In reality, just about ANYTHING can be used as a bottlr opener with enough effort
@@HomesteadBandwagon True enough.
@@HomesteadBandwagon вы хотели сказать если приложить достаточно смекалки😊
Bottle opener will get ALOT of use! 😊
I love my fastback and have been carrying it for at least three years. My only gripe is the bit retention. It’s been a miracle that I haven’t lost the bit because it hasn’t locked in place for about 1.5 years. Because it doesn’t lock, the bit will slide forward when the driver is closed making it impossible to open the driver unless I have something small and sharp to slide the bit back into place. Only then can the screwdriver be opened after the bit is slid back into the holder. Very frustrating.
I've been hearing that about the ball retention. I have been carrying one with the snap collar, but I'm switching to the ball becuase I found bits that work well with that setup. Hopefully i get lucky!
I tired the Milwaukee fastback and I like it but I've had the Philips head get stuck while closed or the spring that holds it comes out 3 different times, I just ordered the Klein one so we will see how it does! I am gonna miss the bottle opener tho😂
the old design of the fastback used a spring to hold the bit; but they replaced that sometime last year will a ball bearing after feedback from customers that the spring failed sometimes. The fastback comes with a lifetime warranty, so you should be able to exchange the old faulty one for a new one.
@@AnthonyLauder I'll have to give that a try! Thank you for the info I didn't know they were under warranty
I love the Milwaukee one but i have probably gone through 5 of them, the ball detent does not last very long with my use. I just purchased the klein knife to try out, kind of disappointed it doesnt come with a double bit.
I'm still using one of the older ones with the ring retention, but I bought 3 of the ones with the ball when they were on discount. I gave one to a coworker, so we'll see how long it holds up!
literally not having a flat head on that one kills the tool. still better than most other utility knifes but the milwaukee is so much better and i have used both phillips and flat head at random places because i've had it on me.
wow i think im gonna have to get this just for that 1/4 impact bit alone lol thats something that i could keep a t10 or 5/32 hex in since as a hotel maint i use those a lot.
I could almost justify carrying around a small Railer with some extra bits in it, but at some point, you're basically just carrying around your whole tool bag. It's a slippery slope!
The only think I DONT like about the Klein, is the impact adapter is loose and flops around. If that were just a little tighter, it'd be fantastic.
So the Klein can use regular 1/4 inch bits versus double sided bits.
Yup. As long as you don't mind carrying around a pocket full of loose bits! The Milwaukee will accept short 1/4 bits as well
I thought I’ll never lose the bit from the Milwaukee knife. I was wrong. Finding a replacement bit?
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Thanks for trying to help but my Milwaukee knife doesn’t have the ball retention system but rather some metal ring clip inside. Possibly works with those bits but thanks anyway. Hope you had a great thanksgiving.@@HomesteadBandwagon
I dont luke that the klein shank for the bit holder isnt center to the handle.
I was in love with the milwaukee but the damn bit holder fails everytime and the bit gets lost. I've gone thru 3 so far and they don't offer correct replacement bits. Why doesn't Milwaukee fix the issue?
Couldn’t you just pop off the spring that retains the ball bearing and squeeze it a bit tighter?
There is also a slot and retaining clip inside the fastback. Had it forever, then saw someone pull a blade out. Thought they had just shoved it in there, but no, there is a designed space for the blade. 🤯
He showed that!
I picked up the Klien to check it out. Yes, the plastic handle edges are a bit rough (flashing from molding process) which is a bit disappointing.
Nothing a litle filing/sanding/touch-up with the Dremmel won't solve, but still. C'mon Klien. The release for retracting the driver isn't any worse (maybe a bit) than the Milwaukee. The single Phillips bit isn't a problem for me as I have a rail of those (flat, sq, torx, etc.) usually at hand.
The Milwaukee's screw driver is centered nicely whereas the Klien is offset which is disappointing. The Milwaukee has better ergonomics when using the driver as the recess is nice and smooth under the index finger whereas the Klien is back under the middle of the middle or ring finger, and the channel behind the driver tang is wide with sharp(ish) edges. Overall, the Milwaukee Fastbacks have a much more solid feel. The Kien as nice detents at 45 degrees for both the blade and the driver. The Klien's multi 1/4" attachment with magnets is a win compared to the Milwaukee ball detent holder. Finally, he Klien's driver shaft is a bit loosey-goosey and the Milwaukee is solid.
Same factory? Look at the Doyle one too.
Anyone know if you can buy a two sided bit for the Klein?
Can u put the double ended bit in the klein?
No, sir. The hole ain't deep enough
just looked at my fastback, and the screw driver doesn't have that ball bearing, at least not on the outside
I have the milwaukee on me at all times and love it - except...the stupid bottle opener!! i am so tired of bottle openers on literally everything, the one on the milwaukee is so annoying because my finger (thumb) catches it all the time. Glad I watched this video tho, I almost switched just because it didn't have a bottle opener. I guess Ill keep filing the opener teeth and wait for something better.
For my work in textiles the milwaukee is perfect, my brother the electrician finds the klein perfect. We are a house divided
Well, you're right. He's just a fan boy ;-)
The fastbacks were so cheap a while back too. Now the price has crept up a bit.
That's a cool tool.
I use it every day. Can't imagine a better value for the money
I hate the Milwaukee bottle opener (I love the knife besides that), it's sharp and right at the mouth of my pocket.
Can't say I've ever used it to open a bottle. I just wedge the frame between the cap and my thumb and pop it
You really need the flathead.
For sure. Used it today.
Nice vid 👍👍
Thanks! 🤘
Milwaukee for the win👏👍💥
"how do those work?" 😂
no beer bottle opener ???? its a no for me FastBack For the win!! i also bought 2 more
Non-centered screwdriver = nightmare fuel. No blade storage = pain.
just buy a double tipped bit for the klein. Geeeeez
Double tip don't fit
That ball bearing bit retention system on the Milwaukee is shite. It is well known to be shite. The bearing falls out and disappears then, no more bit retention. The older models used a better retention system. Milwaukee messed up by going to this ball bearing retention collar and need to fix this problem by reverting to the older, reliable collar.
Klein made one for the sole reason of charging more money for the name. Stole a good idea
Klein is half the price of Milwaukee
@michaelhamerin3814 first time I've ever heard that. The Klein ran me 25 bucks whereas I got the Milwaukee for 20
lol weak replica