My jaw DROPPED at "I signed my husband up with his social security number and didn't tell him...I'm gonna do the same with my mom." What a revolting person
I started a job a year ago now. 2 months in I got terribly sick, 5 weeks. I was checked on regularly. Told not to worry, just get better, my job was safe. My boss brought over food, as I had kids. I did make a full recovery and was able to return to work. THEN, and this is big, my co workers house burned down at 5 am just a couple weeks ago. All was lost, she got out with her dogs. .. She was given time off immediately to deal with what happened. Meantime, the employees got a gofundme together to help her with expenses. AND our boss got ahold of corporate and she was told to find a new home, and they would pay expenses to get her in- first/last months rent, security deposit. We work not for some flashy MLM, but Dollar General. I would bet we are more happy and feel more supported than these girls. And that is sad. As they say ''slow and steady wins the race''.
MLM Boss Babe would be like, “I don’t care that you’re sleeping in your car! You should be working your business! I don’t care that you’re at the insurance office dealing with paperwork! You should be on your phone in the waiting room! I was hit by a train and it sliced off the bottom half of my body! You know what I was doing while I was bleeding out on the gravel? I was working my business!”
@@catherinediaz5180 yes it's real. We have a really nice manager. But 2 months ago, that big cold snap, another girl working there lost her home in a 5am fire.. Dollar General thru an employee emergency program, gave her full move in fees and first months rent paid to get into another place. The rest of us started a gofundme for her and ultimately, between the gofundme and what locals brought into the store for her, she got over 4,000 not including the moving assistance and first mos rent paid from Dollar General. - I used to have a ''career'' in Emergency Services, but it wasn't that supportive and my son got really sick. Dollar General allows me to care for my son without worrying about losing my job if he winds up in the hospital for a week. So I stay.
The main girl talking acts like she’s such an edge lord. Constantly cussing even when it feels unnatural... squeezing in that she vapes.. saying “gnarly” ...... THE CRINGE
They are the same people who say "I'm gonna apologize in advance cuz sometimes I hurt/annoy/piss off/steal from/insult people". Well, then they know better, and they are just behaving badly. So stop!
@@Chelsea_._ True. I suppose I did make a gross generalization. The way that MLM's are set up kind of cater to how narcissists function.....so there are a lot of them in these roles.
CLASSIC cult behavior, to get your people to reveal their darkest secrets under the guise of self development so that you can use that information later to manipulate them into staying.
Absolutely. It comes off as so, so cultish. Normal non-MLM jobs would NEVER pressure you into revealing such personal information, because it's 1) no one's business, and 2) irrelevant to actual work. I have NEVER had a boss or colleague try and convince me that I resent my parents, or try and get me to spill my deepest fears. This is NOT normal or healthy workplace behavior and I hope these people are one day able to understand that.
Baguettesy Exactly. It’s so that later when that girl is skeptical the coach can say, but you don’t want to disappoint your parents, do you? They’ll be so proud of you if you just stick it out and keep at it a little longer. Now she knows exactly how to use everyone’s insecurities against them later.
Technically, marketing is based around manipulating consumers to buy your products through many different means; that’s pretty much why advertising exists. But yes, I do agree that she’s definitely lacking purpose in life.
Karp That’s fair. And some of the basic social media marketing techniques they use to boost engagement are actually genius (besides cold messaging, obviously). They come up with some of the most interesting ways to trick algorithms, to pull people in to seeing their posts, etc. But I think that’s a product of their desperation. They are SO desperate, they end up kind of coming up with some smart, sneaky things. I’m in my fourth year of my marketing degree, and nothing irks me more than seeing them claim they are “marketers” simply because they use the techniques that have been pushed on them by their upline. I think the big difference is how they use the techniques and tools. Every single marketing class I have has a huge component dedicated to ethical marketing practices, simply because if you don’t pay attention to ethics, you end up doing exactly what MLM huns do... annoying the living shit out of people and getting sued.
And she freely admits handling her devices while on the toilet. That's so unsanitary. Lol. I would NOT want to spend time listening to an ex-prositute lecture me about how to make money. 🙄
This person actually left beach body and did an interview with the allegedly podcast .she mentioned that it was because of this video that she left the mlm. Great work KiKi !
@@wendym523 yes. they came out as nonbinary and go by Larry Ross. they seem to have broken free from the entire MLM thing, not just beachbody, and they have an upcycled clothes shop & teach candle making classes now. they didn’t come out until after breaking off from beachbody, and one of their posts mentions workplace discrimination. i’m glad they are out now though!
She’s a narcissist through and through. They exhibit a lack of empathy, their problems (especially health) are always worse than your’s. Their accomplishments are always better than your’s and no matter how bad your childhood, their’s was worse.
When she said "I'm proud of you" to that young girl pissed me off so much. You are a stranger! You didn't birth her, raise her, love her and have her best intentions at heart. You see this young woman as dollar bills not as a human. Omg I'm livid!
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Saying you're proud of somebody you don't know is a kindness. The context of it is manipulative. But the sentiment is not.
melissadiaz128 this woman saying she is proud of her resounds as very empty to me. When this young woman fails, this bully isn’t going to be there to help her emotionally or financially. She flat out doesn’t care about anyone but herself. Period !
I never said I'm incapable of being proud of a stranger. As you yourself stated you can't know a person's story in a minute or a single comment. I am a mother of 2 and I can tell you that I will always want them to succeed in life. If a complete stranger is telling them "I'm proud of you" for joining an mlm and pretty much encouraging them to quit their job I would not be happy. That is the mlm way if your parents or spouse don't support you than they are haters! Once that young lady leaves beachbody that woman will no longer be proud of her or even remember her name for that matter.
@@rooftopromance the difference is that this bb coach is saying to this girl that she's proud out of gaining something for herself. It's not genuine commendation unfortunately because it's only being said to get this girl on the program. It sounds like ur a sweet person and sometimes I'm also proid of ppl but not everyone is like us and some strangers don't mean well... Like the one who was talking on the vid. And i think that's where people should focus on their family and friends to be proud rather than strangers. Just because she would know that they truly have your best interest at heart.
“You can do it with a fucking baby in your arms okay? There’s no reason you can’t do this” *aggressively and frantically punches the sky with both arms*
Omg, she's a life ruiner. She is single-handedly ruining their lives. Their relationships, their marriages, their financial futures, their dreams. The bad karma she has coming her way is astronomical.
Legit they keep saying oh this is gonna “change your life” like yeah sis it will don’t do it. It’s so sad to see women take other paths in their life that they didn’t plan to take because of these MLMs
True, but a lot of these people bear some responsibility too. PLENTY of research online. I get the scam and the preying on people's vulnerabilities, but a lot of em are looking for get rich quick schemes and hear what they wanna hear instead of what's in front of their face!
@@thepearlmoon I figured at least we are too people who will never join that shit lol. Remember that terrifying video of those sorority sisters we're welcoming new people? So robotic.
The first woman, MAN I wish she opened up a home bakery business and started a TH-cam channel teaching others to bake. Sounds like that is her passion, not building a sales team in beach body. Ughhhhhshsiwkdbhdej!!!!
Right?? And these toxic people might even make her quit doing what she truly loves(you need to stop baking and focus on this mlm) and that is the worst part.
Homegirl’s making $12,000 a year talking about going on paid vacations. 😂 Yeah because it’s cheaper to send you on a cruise then give you a livable wage.
And you knows what funny is most of the time they just buy the product themselves to meet the amount they need to sell to get the "free" trip, so technically it's not free! Lmfao!
Bingo. People are delusional. NOTHING is free ... And I'm sure their cabins weren't ocean side balcony suites, they're probably those inner cabins which you couldn't pay me to go on. I'd rather them just cut me an $800 check instead. And I guarantee liquor wasn't included on that "free" cruise.
I was thinking the same! $900 is great if you genuinely can't work in a normal setting, but you can make much more with other "full-time jobs". You can make $1200/month doing full-time hours at a place that pays you minimum wage (based on my home state).
My sister tried to get me into this saying things like “you don’t have to work for anybody and be your own boss” I work in healthcare and one overtime shift a week is equivalent to what she makes a month in monat yet she tried to make me believe that her way was better
Shoshi it’s actually not really clear if it genuinely is healthier than smoking, because it’s not been around for long enough to measure what the consequences of long term regular usage are.
“I made $900 a month....and I had to message people on the crapper to do it” Yeah cool. I make $3500 a month working at a supermarket. And I don’t have to lose friends in the process. Edit: I live in Australia, I get paid $32 ph but I’m a dept manager and I’ve worked in retail 25yrs. Know your worth ladies :)
I was waiting for her to say "a week", which would at least hit median pay and have some appeal to struggling people. ... Nope. That was just her paycheck, period.
Release us from the Matrix probably a manager role of some sort. But places like Trader Joe’s and whole foods pay REALLY well, mostly when you get higher positions.
Release us from the Matrix I work for coles in Australia. I manage a small department. Yes it’s a bit stressful, but at the end of the day I go home and leave work there.
She's the You "I broke my leg" Her "well I broke both legs 3 ribs and my pelvis while skiing in Antarctica with 3 eskimos who did the crypt walk" typa gal..I cringe..I really do lol
@@queenkamie1743 yesss😂😂 I use to work with one and it was literally exhausting to talk to her..and surprise surprise she was involved in a MLM..well several actually she would try one then switch to another😂😂
@@taradactule6052 I know someone in my family (sister-in-law). She is doing that privately! These are narcisstic, self-centered people who NEVER let other people in their parallel universe. They think themselves as highest kings/ queens and nobody else matters. Oh hell yeah, they have these sociopath disorders, having 0 empathy for others. Tell 'em about you gonna die? NO, she died already 3 times, so no excuse! 😂😂😂
@@MiaMizuno 😂😂 exactly..they are the center of the universe..always the victim and can do no wrong at all..they could run someone over and then swear that person ruined their day because they had the audacity to be hit by their car lol
Smh that girl that bakes...she could literally bake keto desserts or healthy desserts or whatever in her own kitchen and sell it. Market it without using beach body. And she doesn’t have to really leave home. It will be all hers.
Yup. You'd be better raking leaves and shoveling snow, going door to door w flyers than you would any of these pyramid schemes ... I did that when I was 15 and today I'm 41 and turned it into a decent little business!
I was thinking the same thing. Whatever talents they have, they would be much better off actually starting their own business with them then joining an MLM
How to be a successful BB Coach: Commit identity theft as the coach on this call admitted to doing. My regular job has never suggested I commit a felony to get ahead.
That girl that was crying seemed pretty young. What adult in their right mind would tell (I’m assuming) a young girl that being vulnerable online to strangers is a good thing?! Especially when she’s obviously not in the best emotional state. What a psycho.
People cry after "priming" because they realize in that moment they are spending hundreds of dollars just to swing their arms in the air like a lunatic
I left my MLM earlier this month, all thanks to your videos, and it has been absolutely freeing! Your dedication and moxie are saving the innocent fortunes. Please keep doing these! Eventually, hearing points you make in different ways across all your videos will resonate with someone and salvage people’s livelihoods. 🙏🏼
Stop. I had this video on in the background while I was doing other things and I thought the first voice on the call sounded familiar, and it was my sorority sister from college 🤦🏼♀️ hahaha the amount of messages I’ve gotten would astound you lol. She’s jumped ship over to Monat now hahaha
These are all established coaches, not clients. They know the product, these meetings are supposed to be check ins and talk about progress, ideas, etc.
The “henchman” was my “coach” for almost a year. She cusses and screams at everyone allll the time and claims that she is just being real. It’s insanity and I felt anxious any time I had to talk to her or deal with her. I left her group and team and never looked back! 😒🙄
I'm not offended by swear words, but there's something so off-putting about someone who's pitching something or lecturing who does it to try and seem more down to earth and relatable.
These swear words are completely tame compared to the last video. I’m sorry / but if someone kept saying “c^*t” to me? I’d be gone so damn fast their screens would freeze! This woman sickens me.
Renee Conlin yup! and I understand that some people can’t afford therapy or don’t even have access. Some people even balk at the idea of it but there’s so much resources online.
Exactly! We are all very aware that therapy isn’t always financially or physically accessible but there are a lot of great resources online and apps that can help start the journey with you. Feeling forced and cornered into a business and being emotionally taken advantage of in order to make money reminds me of people forced into prostitution. Thinking this is how you make a living for yourself and you shouldn’t care what your family thinks. Do it and we will take care of you. That’s not what work is supposed to be like.
She’s so aggressive it’s honestly uncomfortable. Can you imagine if your boss acted like she does on this call? Why do MLM huns think being a jerk is appealing?
Are we just going to ignore that she said "$960" was her highest paycheck?! girl, I thought you owned your own business? I thought you were SoOoOoOo financially free?
Brandi Burnett oh my god less than $1,000 a month!? I make 3x that in an entry level position I took after college(granted its an extremely well paying job) But that’s insane. I couldn’t live off that.
I’ve never disliked a woman so much in my entire life. She clearly loves hearing herself talk, which makes it the perfect job for her. This is making me sick to my stomach
“Oh I have that diagnosis too” Just because you have the same disease as the person you’re preying on, that doesn’t mean you have the same severity of said disease.
Stephanie S AND... my son has Crohn’s and I had a BB coach tell me Shakeology would help him. Ummm are you a doctor? He has a GI disease that the wrong foods can put him in the hospital. Huge red flag for me- it was “convince ANYONE it’s for them”. Scary.
One thing I noticed is that the “down lines” seem to have absolutely no voice in these conference calls. Just listening to the ridiculousness with no input
So true! I feel like these companies just prey on girls who also lack the confidence to speak up and the down line talks and barks so much that no one feels comfortable speaking.
"This was the most amazing call" when she said that I was like what? amazing call my ass lol These women are so vulnerable and glasses was totally taking advantage of their vulnerable moments and not caring one single bit. This is disgusting. I see this all the time in my industry as I'm a registered nutritionist and it's absolutely disgusting. Thank you for bringing light on the dark side of MLM's!!
I just quit Monat yesterday and my “upline” told me I wasn’t giving up on monat I was giving up on myself and my dreams. 😂 You are right about how you come into it feeling like shit and you leave with more trauma. I feel great that I actually quit just in time to get my money back. It was 30 days money back guarantee. I only did it for 3 weeks. These girls are toxic. They make you feel like you are nothing without them.
lady lazarus unfortunately people actually believe this is a calling like I did. They tell you to keep going even through the tears. This company should be shut down ASAP. Most will not make hardly any money and the ones that have are the ones who started when they first opened the business.
Hey Kiki, so I couldn't help but do some of my own research on the guest speaker in this video. Turns out she actually quit Beachbody this past summer and has a lot of terrible things to say about her experience. Pretty interesting huh?
All things aside, if this was a “business” it would be more professional. Like using the words “c*nt” and “f*ck” is so tacky. I cuss A LOT. Lol like I have a huge potty mouth but in this setting, it’s unprofessional
There's a time and a place for everything. In the office it's probably best if you avoid language like that. Like there's a difference between hanging out with your besties and typing up expense reports or going to a meeting.
Yeah and a few minutes later she talked very disparagingly about criminals and addicts. If she really was a recovering addict, I would think that she would be more compassionate.
It would be more interesting(i think) to look into how people feel near the top of the pyramid about their 'success' coming despite(or due to) the failure of those lower down. Do they think about that? Do they feel any guilt.
You’re so classy, well spoken and educated on this... I’ve been HOOKED on your videos the past few days, because recently I’ve given birth and seemingly become a target for these “health coaches” who don’t know anything about health. I’ve always had an issue with these companies and I’m sure if a psychology study was conducted on the higher “up line” there would be a link between them high on the spectrum of narcissism and makavelinism- they are masters of manipulation to which the most vulnerable fall prey. I usually don’t just give a “no thanks”, but a long winded lecture on what they’re doing is wrong. SICKENING
@@RachelEdwards1144 LEVERAGE COOKIES! You thought cookies are holding you back from going all in, but cookies have the word "cook" in them, so when you cook the dough you are going to make even more dough financially 💰💰💰
Ive been in school to be a nutritionist for the past three years, its taken such a long time because i literally had to retake multiple classes despite trying and studying as hard as I can, such a difficult group of concepts to grasp. The part that hurts is that the people like girl in the glasses using excessive "confidence" to pretend to be an expert in subjects they know nothing about. :/
That awful team leader (the one that barely spoke) mentioned that some of the coaches were nurses and would therefore miss the call. At the very end she said "because of their stupid jobs." Um, excuse me??? God forbid a nurse decides to show up to work to save lives, and ditches the pyramid scheme pep rally. These people are truly awful! Shaming a healthcare worker for not quitting their job for Beach Body during a global pandemic is low. Just low.
That blows my mind. Do they just think that any job outside of their MLM is stupid? Do they really think that their "job" is more important than being a nurse??
@@schrdngrskat3847 They have sunken so deep into their own imaginary world where in a year they'll all be millionaires. It's like a cult, where leader's word is the only truth and anything else said anywhere is a lie. So therefore they believe their own lie that every other job is pointless slavery, only beachbody will give you a good life.
Yeah, it was basically "You have no right to define your own boundaries, abilities, or have personal responses to a situation that are different than hers."
Some illnesses are more severe than others. Bipolar, depression, cancer, everyone is at different stages. I have anxiety and can't even drive or go to the grocery store without fighting multiple panic attacks, yet for many others it does not affect them as much.
I truly hope that the people who are leading these meetings see your videos and realize how horrible they are! Probably not but thanks for calling them out!!
I cant believe she said that so casually knowing this will be uploaded to TH-cam. Im sure most if not all of the girls had the same reaction in their mind that we did. But they cant dare criticize or question their master! So many creepy cult vibes.. This one REALLY proved the vulnerability of the people who get sucked into MLMs...every single one said they lack confidence..sad to see
And a toxic way to look at a relationship. "Better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission" lmao maybe in an event that is small.. Like spending $50 bucks...... But towards an identity theft!!! That's an 'I'm leaving you'. Situation
I have Hashimotos Disease (a thyroid autoimmune disease) and I always get messages from Beach Body and other MLMs saying their products could "cure" my illness. They're so predatory.
I have a friend with Grave's disease and she works so hard regulating her diet to keep things in check. Her initial motivation was to be able to have a baby (she succeeded) and now works at it to just feel good and healthy. It makes me angry that MLMs target people in your situation when they have no knowledge of what it takes to care for yourself. Fortunately no one has targeted me, but I'm sure they think they could cure my anxiety. I cannot imagine how my anxiety would sky rocket if I were in one of these schemes....
Yesterday I was like “I need another Kiki anti mlm vid” and my PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED 😍 she’s so real and she phrases her criticisms so freaking well. Amazing.
The girl in the glasses seems to have a lot of issues and she keeps "flaunting" them. Like "I have insomnia. I have crohn's. I have this disease." She really needs to stop saying gnarly
It's a power play. Lowers the bar to impress people the more she seems like the underdog. Super manipulative and always a bad sign when somebody lists every little thing they struggle with off the bat.
Dr.CandyStriper my wife and I are getting a divorce right now . She’s become so out of touch with reality because of beach body . I was paying for her products monthly . I told her how disingenuous she was being but it only pushed her further away . It’s sad because she used to be a good person .
Christopher Jackson I’m not 100% but isn’t that illegal? If you didn’t authorize her use of your DD214? My husband separated a year ago but I still have very little knowledge on how the military handles those things.
They definitely use that tactic of "Oh, I have that condition" or "I know someone that has that condition" and it always is 100% insincere!!! I have about 5 serious health conditions, including kidney failure and I'm on dialysis. I had the vultures circling and trying to bring me into their teams, and every single one knew people who had ALL my same issues! Most days I can barely drag myself out of bed, and had someone tell me that was great, because that meant I had so much time to do this business while just chilling in my bed! Yeah, cause I'm just hanging out!
Wow... thank you for bringing attention to this!! I had a neighbor who was my age and a really sweet person. We got coffee one day and after that every time we interacted she tried to get me to join Beachbody. She always asked: “Is there any way I can help you attain your nutrition and fitness goals?” Girl, no. I literally wanted to hangout as friends, not be a pawn in your business plan.
Another thing I can’t stand is that the “leader” constantly swears. If you are hanging out with your close friends, swear as much as you want , but if you are on a conference call, at least be professional.
Especially conference calls with people they don’t know!! My coworkers and I swear like sailors in the office but we would NEVER talk like that on a company-wide call!
I think the idea is not to sound professional so she comes off as “one of your girlfriends” and uses that to get people to open up to her. It’s very manipulative and sounds like she’s forcing into her speech to sound more “cool” or “relatable”.
I'm definitely not a prude but the words business and profanity do not mix. I've heard "leaders" with such poor and horrible speaking abilities that I often wonder how much of what they say is true. I'm not impressed, motivated or moved when I hear crass language. In fact, I lose respect.
She signed up her spouse without his consent using his SSN and is planning to do the same to another person? Um, time to report her to the FTC! You can report her to their compliance but it seems, from other examples out there, that their compliance is sheltering these people and not taking action against them. *facepalm I am so glad I got OUT of this MLM.
i'm sorry, did she say that her biggest check was $960 in a month? my father is a construction worker and he makes a little over 1k a WEEK let alone a month! $960 isn't even CLOSE to enough to support someone. that won't even cover rent, depending where you live. and that was her BIGGEST CHECK, which means that she often gets paid less than that. this is insane.
Yeah, so even if you did this job for 8 hours/day and 5 days/week (which is prob less than what they ask), you're only making $6/hr... And that's her biggest cheque
Having lived off of £400 a month. I disagree. When you live on the poverty line, you get used to it. You pay your bills, buy food and go to work. And you don't have a car, go on holiday, go out or buy non-essential items.
She’s that annoyingly confident girl who draws people in because she has an overpowering personality. The only reason it works is because the people she draws in are insecure, vulnerable, and honestly because of this, huge pushovers. Her overpowering personality flusters them and because her personality commands a sort of authority they just want to trust her and be obedient. She’s very “girl, me too! Don’t matter! Who cares!” Which sounds supportive but it’s actually a sneaky ass way to invalidate somebody, because when it starts getting in the way of their work, they aren’t empathizing with them, they are saying “I did it. I got through work no matter _what._ So why can’t _you?”_
Yes. She sounds like she has a shady past. She sounds like a con artist, so this MLM is perfect for her. She has this overpowering personality that sucks weak and vulnerable people in. She is perfect for this scam. Sad.
I'm sure her personality could be diagnosed as narcissist/sociopathic or psychopathic. We all have some of those traits in use but she's way over the top. She's weaponized her personality for maximum financial gain. When I was younger and would encounter those type of personalities, I would just let them talk and not do anything to counter them. I didn't want a confrontation. Now that I'm older, I have no problem calling them on their BS.
Edgar Machado we don’t “all have some of those traits in use” wtf are you talking about? Do you know how rare a sociopathic or psychopathic diagnosis is made? Those are some serious disorders, you either have them or you don’t. Source: my husband has a PhD in clinical psychology. 🙄 I get so sick of people on the internet that just make shit up.
This video made me emotional. I’m so glad you blurred out these women’s faces. They are clearly very vulnerable and I wish there were people in their lives who could kindly speak wisdom to them. I hope that they see this video.
I feel for that girl that’s crying so bad. She obviously is putting a lot on the line for this terrible company. Ugh I want to give her a hug and tell her it’ll all be ok...if she leaves 😩
Especially considering she just got a real job that sounded legit by how she described it - I hope that Beachbody and these consultants don't take that away from her. Kills me
Telling a young woman to quit her job in this economy is so devious. They are evil
100%
There should be support groups to help families and victims of these MLMs to get out of these cults.
All the unqualified advice she gave... Career, financial, relationships, personal development. It’s amazing how much garage advice she gave.
They were so mean to the young girl 💔
I agree with you. I’d rather keep my set hours right now; it’s guaranteed money.
My jaw DROPPED at "I signed my husband up with his social security number and didn't tell him...I'm gonna do the same with my mom." What a revolting person
It's so unethical!!!!
I’m not sure how but it sounds like tax fraud lol.
That against BB compliance and BB has shut down accounts for that
It's definitely Illegal!
💯 that’s shows how gross these business are
I got a really strong "I'm not like the other girls" vibe from the chick w glasses...very uncomfortable to watch
Accurate af
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Wove you 🥺💕
Omg hiiiii
Yes!!
I started a job a year ago now. 2 months in I got terribly sick, 5 weeks. I was checked on regularly. Told not to worry, just get better, my job was safe. My boss brought over food, as I had kids. I did make a full recovery and was able to return to work. THEN, and this is big, my co workers house burned down at 5 am just a couple weeks ago. All was lost, she got out with her dogs. .. She was given time off immediately to deal with what happened. Meantime, the employees got a gofundme together to help her with expenses. AND our boss got ahold of corporate and she was told to find a new home, and they would pay expenses to get her in- first/last months rent, security deposit.
We work not for some flashy MLM, but Dollar General. I would bet we are more happy and feel more supported than these girls. And that is sad. As they say ''slow and steady wins the race''.
So much more important to be surrounded by genuinely good people than to make money in the midst of toxicity 😓 I’m glad you had all of that support!!
MLM Boss Babe would be like, “I don’t care that you’re sleeping in your car! You should be working your business! I don’t care that you’re at the insurance office dealing with paperwork! You should be on your phone in the waiting room! I was hit by a train and it sliced off the bottom half of my body! You know what I was doing while I was bleeding out on the gravel? I was working my business!”
Girl dollar general, is this real that is so amazing
@@catherinediaz5180 yes it's real. We have a really nice manager. But 2 months ago, that big cold snap, another girl working there lost her home in a 5am fire.. Dollar General thru an employee emergency program, gave her full move in fees and first months rent paid to get into another place. The rest of us started a gofundme for her and ultimately, between the gofundme and what locals brought into the store for her, she got over 4,000 not including the moving assistance and first mos rent paid from Dollar General. - I used to have a ''career'' in Emergency Services, but it wasn't that supportive and my son got really sick. Dollar General allows me to care for my son without worrying about losing my job if he winds up in the hospital for a week. So I stay.
Well, I'm definitely going to make an effort to patronize Dollar General
The main girl talking acts like she’s such an edge lord. Constantly cussing even when it feels unnatural... squeezing in that she vapes.. saying “gnarly” ...... THE CRINGE
She’s ridiculous. Her whole thing is how she’s just herself. Which I think is bs. I think it’s her shtick.
Haha Edge Lord 😂😂😂😂
THANK YOU. I thought the same exact thing. And she's not feeling anything negative about her past life, she's using it for, like, cred.
Ew.
The part about how she has "a lot of different diagnoses" and "mental health issues"....weird flex but ok.
The one with the tattoos? Yeah, you can tell she thinks she's WAY tougher than she actually is.
I got MAJOR cult vibes when she said “if your family doesn’t support you, don’t worry, we’ll support you”...yikes
Omg yes!
horrific
In scientology they call them suppressive persons or SP's
A part of you resents your parents... WTF????
“One of us! One of us!” Scary!
Ever notice how when someone is referred to as being “unapologetic” it usually just means they are a bully?
Bingo. It’s like they think being a toxic asshole is just “living their truth”
They are the same people who say "I'm gonna apologize in advance cuz sometimes I hurt/annoy/piss off/steal from/insult people". Well, then they know better, and they are just behaving badly. So stop!
Word
Yesss same people who say that others can’t handle their honesty and that they just “tell it like it is”.
Nah mate, you’re just a wanker.
@@peachmylk omg! Yes! "How it is" is never other people being amazing beautiful people! I think about this a lot.
The girl with the glasses is such a representative of people who think they are edgy and honest but are really just mean and cruel for no reason.
Aka narcissists
@@Panda_Biscuitsyou can be mean and cruel and not be a narcissist
@@Chelsea_._ True. I suppose I did make a gross generalization. The way that MLM's are set up kind of cater to how narcissists function.....so there are a lot of them in these roles.
@@Panda_Biscuits I fully agree with that part. Mlm’s are a magnet for narcissists lol
CLASSIC cult behavior, to get your people to reveal their darkest secrets under the guise of self development so that you can use that information later to manipulate them into staying.
This comment is IT!
And then using that secret to make you believe you resent your parents, that’s SO evil
I do see a lot of parallels with docs I've watched on scientology.
Absolutely. It comes off as so, so cultish. Normal non-MLM jobs would NEVER pressure you into revealing such personal information, because it's 1) no one's business, and 2) irrelevant to actual work. I have NEVER had a boss or colleague try and convince me that I resent my parents, or try and get me to spill my deepest fears. This is NOT normal or healthy workplace behavior and I hope these people are one day able to understand that.
Baguettesy Exactly. It’s so that later when that girl is skeptical the coach can say, but you don’t want to disappoint your parents, do you? They’ll be so proud of you if you just stick it out and keep at it a little longer. Now she knows exactly how to use everyone’s insecurities against them later.
Your down line is SO HAPPY to see you again
your upline is glad to be back
Kiki Chanel is that a name for your followers? I don’t mind being your down line 😂😂
Oh this comment is everything! 😂 I’m proud to be part of this down line.
Can your downline
be called “Kiki Club”?!
YES
to the girl leading the call: you dont have a skill in marketing, you have a knack for manipulation and lack of purpose in your life.
Thisss 😩😂
Technically, marketing is based around manipulating consumers to buy your products through many different means; that’s pretty much why advertising exists.
But yes, I do agree that she’s definitely lacking purpose in life.
Karp That’s fair. And some of the basic social media marketing techniques they use to boost engagement are actually genius (besides cold messaging, obviously). They come up with some of the most interesting ways to trick algorithms, to pull people in to seeing their posts, etc. But I think that’s a product of their desperation. They are SO desperate, they end up kind of coming up with some smart, sneaky things.
I’m in my fourth year of my marketing degree, and nothing irks me more than seeing them claim they are “marketers” simply because they use the techniques that have been pushed on them by their upline. I think the big difference is how they use the techniques and tools. Every single marketing class I have has a huge component dedicated to ethical marketing practices, simply because if you don’t pay attention to ethics, you end up doing exactly what MLM huns do... annoying the living shit out of people and getting sued.
SPIT! THOSE! FACTS!
And she freely admits handling her devices while on the toilet. That's so unsanitary. Lol. I would NOT want to spend time listening to an ex-prositute lecture me about how to make money. 🙄
This person actually left beach body and did an interview with the allegedly podcast .she mentioned that it was because of this video that she left the mlm. Great work KiKi !
The one leading the call is the one who left?! 😮
@@wendym523 yes. they came out as nonbinary and go by Larry Ross. they seem to have broken free from the entire MLM thing, not just beachbody, and they have an upcycled clothes shop & teach candle making classes now. they didn’t come out until after breaking off from beachbody, and one of their posts mentions workplace discrimination. i’m glad they are out now though!
@wendymcclure8694 yeah, the person with the shaved head and glasses. Makes me think that there's hope for anyone to leave
Who is she anyways?@bundleofbasil
What podcast? 🤔
🤦♀️ there's a huge damn difference between "being unapologetically yourself" and being a straight up rude, insensitive, unempathetic person
She’s a narcissist through and through. They exhibit a lack of empathy, their problems (especially health) are always worse than your’s. Their accomplishments are always better than your’s and no matter how bad your childhood, their’s was worse.
The REAL MLM (Muggles Learning Magic) will rise up and take back our group’s initials ✊
Truth!
These things attract narcissists.
I used to have a couple of friends like that
key on "used to"
When she said "I'm proud of you" to that young girl pissed me off so much. You are a stranger! You didn't birth her, raise her, love her and have her best intentions at heart. You see this young woman as dollar bills not as a human. Omg I'm livid!
Saying you're proud of somebody you don't know is a kindness. The context of it is manipulative. But the sentiment is not.
melissadiaz128 this woman saying she is proud of her resounds as very empty to me. When this young woman fails, this bully isn’t going to be there to help her emotionally or financially. She flat out doesn’t care about anyone but herself. Period !
I never said I'm incapable of being proud of a stranger. As you yourself stated you can't know a person's story in a minute or a single comment. I am a mother of 2 and I can tell you that I will always want them to succeed in life. If a complete stranger is telling them "I'm proud of you" for joining an mlm and pretty much encouraging them to quit their job I would not be happy. That is the mlm way if your parents or spouse don't support you than they are haters! Once that young lady leaves beachbody that woman will no longer be proud of her or even remember her name for that matter.
She is horrible!!!
@@rooftopromance the difference is that this bb coach is saying to this girl that she's proud out of gaining something for herself. It's not genuine commendation unfortunately because it's only being said to get this girl on the program. It sounds like ur a sweet person and sometimes I'm also proid of ppl but not everyone is like us and some strangers don't mean well... Like the one who was talking on the vid. And i think that's where people should focus on their family and friends to be proud rather than strangers. Just because she would know that they truly have your best interest at heart.
“I’m not saying you’re boring, I’m saying you’re lazy” 😂 wow, so motivating.
Yeah, like the girl who said her lack of self-confidence was “holding her back.” To the girl who just called her LAZY!
She’s the worst. But also, there are plenty of boring people on earth. Many of them in the beachbody world. Insufferable.
BRB quitting my job!!!
“No ones is boring , I’m saying you’re lazy”
Jokes on her, I’m both boring and lazy.
“You can do it with a fucking baby in your arms okay? There’s no reason you can’t do this” *aggressively and frantically punches the sky with both arms*
This comment had me cackling 🤣🤣🤣
Or, gives child shaking baby syndrome and is doing beach body in jail 🤣🤣🤣
haha her real wake up routine includes shooting meth straight into her veins
I can't 🤣
These people don't understand there are people who don't want to do this.
The fact that TikTok just banned MLM content 👏🏼
I wish they also did that for Italian people. TikTok is full of 50 yo women trying to sell me products
Good
Yahoo!!! One small step.
Because they actually want people to enjoy the platform lol.
Omg, she's a life ruiner. She is single-handedly ruining their lives. Their relationships, their marriages, their financial futures, their dreams. The bad karma she has coming her way is astronomical.
Legit they keep saying oh this is gonna “change your life” like yeah sis it will don’t do it. It’s so sad to see women take other paths in their life that they didn’t plan to take because of these MLMs
I wish karma was real
True, but a lot of these people bear some responsibility too. PLENTY of research online. I get the scam and the preying on people's vulnerabilities, but a lot of em are looking for get rich quick schemes and hear what they wanna hear instead of what's in front of their face!
She is “manifesting” her karma.
She acts like she is some kind of life coach and/or therapist, but all she is saying is so toxic.
It’s so effed up that this technically is a work meeting. Like, your work shouldn’t make you cry and reveal all your deepest, darkest secrets.
YESSSS omg. So true. I make small lighthearted talk with my coworkers... this shit is just weird.
They're doing it to create intimacy and trust like a sorority.
@@thepearlmoon sororities are.... Kinda cultish too imo but that's just me.
Kolton Nanninga that’s why I said what I said
@@thepearlmoon I figured at least we are too people who will never join that shit lol.
Remember that terrifying video of those sorority sisters we're welcoming new people? So robotic.
Everytime she says, “mama,” I throw up 🤢 in my mouth just a little bit.
I thought I was the only one
Ditto
I knooowwww 🤮🤮🤮
LMAO
why lol
The first woman, MAN I wish she opened up a home bakery business and started a TH-cam channel teaching others to bake. Sounds like that is her passion, not building a sales team in beach body. Ughhhhhshsiwkdbhdej!!!!
When the crazy one said “leverage that!” I thought (but knew I would be wrong) that she’d say next “open up a baking business!”
Right?? And these toxic people might even make her quit doing what she truly loves(you need to stop baking and focus on this mlm) and that is the worst part.
it hurts a lot tbh to hear all that and know that she probably feels so alone but theres nothing we can do to help or reach out to her :(
Especially because Beach Body likely demonizes anyone taking pleasure in baked goods that aren’t “guilt free.”
Anna Morris Stidham so true. They would probably tell her to bake only things with shakeology in them
this is borderline emotional abuse... like gaslighting to the max
Nothing “borderline” here. This is textbook abuse and manipulation
TH-camName which is borderline emotional abuse.... js
Spot on! And if you’re not making any money, it’s your fault. Recruit more, think less.
Quiet Autumn no, it’s not “borderline” emotional abuse. It’s emotional abuse.
It is abuse. 😞
Homegirl’s making $12,000 a year talking about going on paid vacations. 😂 Yeah because it’s cheaper to send you on a cruise then give you a livable wage.
That is such a good point!!
And you knows what funny is most of the time they just buy the product themselves to meet the amount they need to sell to get the "free" trip, so technically it's not free! Lmfao!
Bingo. People are delusional. NOTHING is free ... And I'm sure their cabins weren't ocean side balcony suites, they're probably those inner cabins which you couldn't pay me to go on. I'd rather them just cut me an $800 check instead. And I guarantee liquor wasn't included on that "free" cruise.
True, the free cruise she pays for with the kickback they take from them.
I was thinking the same! $900 is great if you genuinely can't work in a normal setting, but you can make much more with other "full-time jobs". You can make $1200/month doing full-time hours at a place that pays you minimum wage (based on my home state).
My sister tried to get me into this saying things like “you don’t have to work for anybody and be your own boss” I work in healthcare and one overtime shift a week is equivalent to what she makes a month in monat yet she tried to make me believe that her way was better
“Hitting my vape” ok. Health and fitness coach. Got it 🤨🤔🥴
‘BuT iTs HeAlThiER tHAn SmOkInG!1!1!’ - yes Karen, but you know what’s even healthier? Breathing AIR lmao
Shoshi it’s actually not really clear if it genuinely is healthier than smoking, because it’s not been around for long enough to measure what the consequences of long term regular usage are.
When she said "hitting my vape" I was like 'are you kidding me'!!!!
Rachel Hart oh I know lol, I was just repeating the same lame excuse vapers always use
I thought the same thing “Did she just say that?”
“I made $900 a month....and I had to message people on the crapper to do it”
Yeah cool. I make $3500 a month working at a supermarket. And I don’t have to lose friends in the process.
Edit: I live in Australia, I get paid $32 ph but I’m a dept manager and I’ve worked in retail 25yrs. Know your worth ladies :)
I was waiting for her to say "a week", which would at least hit median pay and have some appeal to struggling people. ... Nope. That was just her paycheck, period.
Release us from the Matrix probably a manager role of some sort. But places like Trader Joe’s and whole foods pay REALLY well, mostly when you get higher positions.
And that’s PRE-TAX and PRE-EXPENSE mind you.
Release us from the Matrix I work for coles in Australia. I manage a small department. Yes it’s a bit stressful, but at the end of the day I go home and leave work there.
AvesCable I work for coles in Australia. Aus wages are much higher I’ll admit...
She's the
You "I broke my leg"
Her "well I broke both legs 3 ribs and my pelvis while skiing in Antarctica with 3 eskimos who did the crypt walk" typa gal..I cringe..I really do lol
Lmao I hate those people
@@queenkamie1743 yesss😂😂 I use to work with one and it was literally exhausting to talk to her..and surprise surprise she was involved in a MLM..well several actually she would try one then switch to another😂😂
@@taradactule6052 I know someone in my family (sister-in-law). She is doing that privately! These are narcisstic, self-centered people who NEVER let other people in their parallel universe. They think themselves as highest kings/ queens and nobody else matters.
Oh hell yeah, they have these sociopath disorders, having 0 empathy for others.
Tell 'em about you gonna die? NO, she died already 3 times, so no excuse! 😂😂😂
Omg I know too many of those people. They always have to be one up on everyone else.
@@MiaMizuno 😂😂 exactly..they are the center of the universe..always the victim and can do no wrong at all..they could run someone over and then swear that person ruined their day because they had the audacity to be hit by their car lol
They all claim to feel awful and insecure on the private chats, but on social,media it’s ALL A FACADE of happiness and wealth
Yesssss good point
Exactly like Shannan and her Thrive. All fake on social media. How demoralized can you get?
Smh that girl that bakes...she could literally bake keto desserts or healthy desserts or whatever in her own kitchen and sell it. Market it without using beach body. And she doesn’t have to really leave home. It will be all hers.
Yup. You'd be better raking leaves and shoveling snow, going door to door w flyers than you would any of these pyramid schemes ... I did that when I was 15 and today I'm 41 and turned it into a decent little business!
She could then write cookbooks for that and sell them online
Casey P Exactly!
TOPSPOT that’s so awesome!!
I was thinking the same thing. Whatever talents they have, they would be much better off actually starting their own business with them then joining an MLM
the girl with the glasses was like "IDC IF U HAVE TO SNORT 5 LINES OF COKE JUST GET YOURSELF PUMPED"
That’s the Tony Robbins method lol
Hahaha!!
Tara Lipke u
How to be a successful BB Coach: Commit identity theft as the coach on this call admitted to doing.
My regular job has never suggested I commit a felony to get ahead.
That girl that was crying seemed pretty young. What adult in their right mind would tell (I’m assuming) a young girl that being vulnerable online to strangers is a good thing?! Especially when she’s obviously not in the best emotional state. What a psycho.
People cry after "priming" because they realize in that moment they are spending hundreds of dollars just to swing their arms in the air like a lunatic
This made me laugh so hard omg 😂
Noooooooooooooooo LMFAO!!!
I just choked on my water!! 😂😂🤣
So fkn funny. I was NOT prepared for that bit.
The moment she said Tony Robbins I was like okay she's a bser like him cool 👍
Hun: Literally no one is boring
Kylie: Sorry I had to skip ahead it was getting boring
“That’s totally fine as long as you don’t go onto scam people in a pyramid scheme” 🤣🤣🤣
LOL she's a lowkey savage though!!
I love the way Kiki just slaps people with educated and eloquent roasts
“$900 was my highest paycheck.” ...I’m out.
Im so confused. Did she make 900$ a day ?! If not, How is that a… sales pitch?
OMG me too!....working minimum wage at 17
I left my MLM earlier this month, all thanks to your videos, and it has been absolutely freeing! Your dedication and moxie are saving the innocent fortunes. Please keep doing these! Eventually, hearing points you make in different ways across all your videos will resonate with someone and salvage people’s livelihoods. 🙏🏼
That’s awesome! Proud of you !!!
We love to hear those stories.
Oh wow! I’m so glad you left and it’s so cool it was Kiki who helped with her videos.
Congratulations!
Which one were you in? Did you lose money? If TMI I understand
If I hear her say “gnarly” or “leverage” one more time... Please, someone get this girl a thesaurus.
Lol! Yesss 💯😂 was thinking the same
I officially now cringe at the word gnarly.
“She’s so unapologetically herself.” I think she’s trying way too hard, honestly.
That’s always the exact same vibe I get whenever I see her on a call. It’s so cringey
Jesus I know.
Shaved head, tattoos, nasty mouth.
Yeah she’s soooo original!
"unapologetically herself"="i refuse to have a sense of self awareness due to feeling entitled"
Her grabbing the pillow 😬😬😬 so forced
Shes so unapologetically annoying.
Stop. I had this video on in the background while I was doing other things and I thought the first voice on the call sounded familiar, and it was my sorority sister from college 🤦🏼♀️ hahaha the amount of messages I’ve gotten would astound you lol. She’s jumped ship over to Monat now hahaha
Loll
WAIT OMG which girl?! I was in a sorority too and MLMs really think they are the same thing as sororities lmaaaooo
"I'm on my deathbed. Doctor says I have a week left at most. It hurts to breathe, oh God. I can barely stay conscious."
"Leverage that."
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀
😭🤣
Yeah, but Tattoo McBadGrrrl is proud of you!
That's my life ambition. To have the epitome of Fail be proud of me. Where do I sign up?
😭😭😂😂😂 an don’t forget to be positive, send out a few invites 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
How come they never even talk about the products. This is such a joke. I hate mlms
Cause the product isn't real ... Only thing they sell is dreams.
These are all established coaches, not clients. They know the product, these meetings are supposed to be check ins and talk about progress, ideas, etc.
Obviously that’s not what’s happening here, but that’s what they’re SUPPOSED to be. Lol
The products are secondary. If they do that...sure. The money is from the people and it's obvious.
The product could be LITERAL poop
"If your family doesn't support you, we will" Sounds like a cult to me.
Yah these ppl are disgusting 😭
"One of us, one of us."
@@baljj "gooble gobble"
I love your faces when they say something absurd and you just glance at the camera.
This was so depressing. Those poor girls don't need Beachbody they need love and therapy.
The girl in the glasses cusses like a child who's excited to be able to finally cuss
Agreed
This is such a perfect description.
Haha! You nailed her.
RIGHTTT!!!
I think she thinks she's edgy and cool. It's really just gross.
The “henchman” was my “coach” for almost a year. She cusses and screams at everyone allll the time and claims that she is just being real. It’s insanity and I felt anxious any time I had to talk to her or deal with her. I left her group and team and never looked back! 😒🙄
it's amazing how many people think they are being "real" and "honest", when in fact, all they are is just rude af.
I’d love to stalk her social media!
Name?????
What's her nammmmme??
Glad to hear that you’re no longer a part of them 💕
"I committed identity theft, and so should you."
What a great business model.
I'm not offended by swear words, but there's something so off-putting about someone who's pitching something or lecturing who does it to try and seem more down to earth and relatable.
It's so forced and artificial it just feels like they're telling you a bad lie
I’m not put off either but there’s a time and place you know?? She’s just too much and not in a good way.
Totally unprofessional, it's a turn off if it comes from a leader.
or nice. or professional.
These swear words are completely tame compared to the last video. I’m sorry / but if someone kept saying “c^*t” to me? I’d be gone so damn fast their screens would freeze! This woman sickens me.
All these people need therapy not Beachbody. :/
That and reality checks. Girl get an outside the house job. I know you don't want to, neither do most people, but get a steady paycheck.
For real. So much unprocessed trauma happening here
Renee Conlin yup! and I understand that some people can’t afford therapy or don’t even have access. Some people even balk at the idea of it but there’s so much resources online.
Exactly! We are all very aware that therapy isn’t always financially or physically accessible but there are a lot of great resources online and apps that can help start the journey with you. Feeling forced and cornered into a business and being emotionally taken advantage of in order to make money reminds me of people forced into prostitution. Thinking this is how you make a living for yourself and you shouldn’t care what your family thinks. Do it and we will take care of you. That’s not what work is supposed to be like.
I totally agree.
I am so tired of hearing “unapologetically awesome” and “so real” to describe an appallingly horrid person with zero empathy towards others.
How do you know when they are horrid or not?
Syn Cty they prey on the weak while using their insecurities against them.
It's the same way people describe cult leaders.
She's the person who tells people, "I'm not a bitch, I'm just honest."
Frrr 🤮
Who calls themselves “gnarly” 🥴🥴
I just cringed to death 💀
She’s so aggressive it’s honestly uncomfortable. Can you imagine if your boss acted like she does on this call? Why do MLM huns think being a jerk is appealing?
She is really bragging about $960 as the biggest paycheck?
That's sad.
Right?!
.....I got $1030 while I was in training as a Letter Carrier....
🤣🤣🤣
lmfaooo 🙌🏼😂😂😂
I thought the same thing
I had a friend who does beach body she ask me to join her team and when I said I hate MLM’s I told her to watch your videos she blocked me..
That’s not a friend.
Jill Morgan thank you for that🙂
LMAOOOO
No loss there 🤷♀️
Haha!!! I guess that's not surprising
I’m a patient with severe Crohn’s who tried Beachbody 5 years ago out of desperation. These people will stop at nothing.
Are we just going to ignore that she said "$960" was her highest paycheck?! girl, I thought you owned your own business? I thought you were SoOoOoOo financially free?
Right!? That's probably taxes, too!
Right lmao I was looking for this comment and this is the first I’ve seen. I’m curious how often they get paid?
@@OrianaFunkhouser Most MLMs are monthly. 🤷♀️
Right? I make a little more than that weekly, it’s barely enough to pay all my bills and groceries for my kids and everyday expenses.
Brandi Burnett oh my god less than $1,000 a month!? I make 3x that in an entry level position I took after college(granted its an extremely well paying job) But that’s insane. I couldn’t live off that.
"Most of my time is on the toilet because I have Crohn's". I thought Beachbody was supposed to cure your ailments though?
Right?!?
What she meant was “most of my time IN the toilet because i’m a piece of shit”
Berj Varjabedian this👏🏻
Maybe taking all those shit supplements is making it worse
How are you on your phone when your crying in pain lol
I’ve never disliked a woman so much in my entire life. She clearly loves hearing herself talk, which makes it the perfect job for her. This is making me sick to my stomach
That one chick “I’m afraid I’ll have to get a job on the “outside.” My god..it’s like they are in a GD prison.
“Oh I have that diagnosis too”
Just because you have the same disease as the person you’re preying on, that doesn’t mean you have the same severity of said disease.
Nor the same presentation.
Nor the same resources and support to cope with the illness!
Stephanie S AND... my son has Crohn’s and I had a BB coach tell me Shakeology would help him. Ummm are you a doctor? He has a GI disease that the wrong foods can put him in the hospital. Huge red flag for me- it was “convince ANYONE it’s for them”. Scary.
Lunchlady Kim
WHAT? They said that? Oh my gosh, that’s both funny and messed up. Wow.
C yep. High fiber can really mess him up so can you imagine if I gave him the shakes? No wonder that one “coach” is on the toilet all day. Duh!!!!
One thing I noticed is that the “down lines” seem to have absolutely no voice in these conference calls. Just listening to the ridiculousness with no input
So true! I feel like these companies just prey on girls who also lack the confidence to speak up and the down line talks and barks so much that no one feels comfortable speaking.
The only input they get to have is when they're aggressively demanded to give an answer to very personal questions. Just awful.
Talking negatively about Parents, Friends, is another sign of Abuse. Isolating the person, because Family may speak against the MLM.
Yup this. It is cult behavior
Definitely, this is so messed up!
Wow so true.
"This was the most amazing call" when she said that I was like what? amazing call my ass lol These women are so vulnerable and glasses was totally taking advantage of their vulnerable moments and not caring one single bit. This is disgusting. I see this all the time in my industry as I'm a registered nutritionist and it's absolutely disgusting. Thank you for bringing light on the dark side of MLM's!!
I just quit Monat yesterday and my “upline” told me I wasn’t giving up on monat I was giving up on myself and my dreams. 😂 You are right about how you come into it feeling like shit and you leave with more trauma. I feel great that I actually quit just in time to get my money back. It was 30 days money back guarantee. I only did it for 3 weeks. These girls are toxic. They make you feel like you are nothing without them.
Congratulations on quitting. Hope your future is going bright even more than before (don't know if the sentence make sense in English?)
I'm sorry you went through that. Well done for seeing through it in time and getting out.
an acquaintance of mine joined monat in March and I'm genuinely concerned
lady lazarus unfortunately people actually believe this is a calling like I did. They tell you to keep going even through the tears. This company should be shut down ASAP. Most will not make hardly any money and the ones that have are the ones who started when they first opened the business.
@@candycrylic6057 Wow. It's hard to tell if she's doing well or not. I don't think she would tell me over text if she wasn't doing well.
Not once did they talk about products. It’s all just empty encouragement
She actullay said something along the lines of: how are you going to sell this lifestyle if you act not vivacious ect...
That is such a good point.
I wouldn't even call it encouragement...
I still have no idea what the hell they sell.
In this world its all about selling yourself.
"I'm helping people." - Signed, someone who is absolutely destroying people's lives
Hey Kiki, so I couldn't help but do some of my own research on the guest speaker in this video. Turns out she actually quit Beachbody this past summer and has a lot of terrible things to say about her experience. Pretty interesting huh?
do you have the link to that video?
Link?
Do you have a link? Very curious
What's her name?
Nooooooo waaaaayyyyy wow
Evil lady: “I’m going to ask every single person on this call..”
Me: exits video.
I had the same exact thought! NO WAY would I sit through that and allow myself to be questioned like that.
Lol That’s what I thought. I’d definitely exit the video if this was me.
They would have lost me at "we need to have a group video call" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
Hahahahaha right! Like, damn! They can’t just hide in a corner of the team call? 😂
All things aside, if this was a “business” it would be more professional. Like using the words “c*nt” and “f*ck” is so tacky. I cuss A LOT. Lol like I have a huge potty mouth but in this setting, it’s unprofessional
There's a time and a place for everything. In the office it's probably best if you avoid language like that.
Like there's a difference between hanging out with your besties and typing up expense reports or going to a meeting.
Totally agree
James Watson, I want to see an expense report typed by her 😂
Nobody:
Me: I cuss a lot
I have a huge potty mouth
Also me: **censors cuss words**
Yes!! I use bad language often but never at work!!
Why is she using words like “deviant” and “prostitute” and calling people lazy? It’s like how many people can I offend in 20 minutes????
She’s trying sooo hard to be the “I used to be a bad girl criminal but I changed and now im a bOsS bAbE”
Yeah and a few minutes later she talked very disparagingly about criminals and addicts. If she really was a recovering addict, I would think that she would be more compassionate.
If her story is true as she says it is, then that is very much a sign that she still hates herself within and what she did to survive back then.
For the shock value, to sound quirky and different, to make it(and those ppl) sound as 'crazy' as possible.
It would be more interesting(i think) to look into how people feel near the top of the pyramid about their 'success' coming despite(or due to) the failure of those lower down. Do they think about that? Do they feel any guilt.
You’re so classy, well spoken and educated on this... I’ve been HOOKED on your videos the past few days, because recently I’ve given birth and seemingly become a target for these “health coaches” who don’t know anything about health. I’ve always had an issue with these companies and I’m sure if a psychology study was conducted on the higher “up line” there would be a link between them high on the spectrum of narcissism and makavelinism- they are masters of manipulation to which the most vulnerable fall prey. I usually don’t just give a “no thanks”, but a long winded lecture on what they’re doing is wrong. SICKENING
I like baking. “Yeah you like food, that’s nutrition”
I like food too does that make me a nutrition expert? This is brutal.
I bake cookies... eggs are healthy. Eggs go into cookies and egg whites go into the icing. It's a healthy snack. I'm a nutrition expert now.
Lmaoooo
@@RachelEdwards1144 LEVERAGE COOKIES! You thought cookies are holding you back from going all in, but cookies have the word "cook" in them, so when you cook the dough you are going to make even more dough financially 💰💰💰
Ive been in school to be a nutritionist for the past three years, its taken such a long time because i literally had to retake multiple classes despite trying and studying as hard as I can, such a difficult group of concepts to grasp. The part that hurts is that the people like girl in the glasses using excessive "confidence" to pretend to be an expert in subjects they know nothing about. :/
I smoke weed, therefore, I am a medical expert.
That awful team leader (the one that barely spoke) mentioned that some of the coaches were nurses and would therefore miss the call. At the very end she said "because of their stupid jobs." Um, excuse me??? God forbid a nurse decides to show up to work to save lives, and ditches the pyramid scheme pep rally. These people are truly awful! Shaming a healthcare worker for not quitting their job for Beach Body during a global pandemic is low. Just low.
That blows my mind. Do they just think that any job outside of their MLM is stupid? Do they really think that their "job" is more important than being a nurse??
@@schrdngrskat3847 They have sunken so deep into their own imaginary world where in a year they'll all be millionaires. It's like a cult, where leader's word is the only truth and anything else said anywhere is a lie. So therefore they believe their own lie that every other job is pointless slavery, only beachbody will give you a good life.
people like her will never appreciate nurses etc, they live in a fantasy world where all humanity needs is an MLM job and beach body coaches
“I have that illness and I do this” that’s so gross everyone has different abilities even if they have the same thing
Yeah, it was basically "You have no right to define your own boundaries, abilities, or have personal responses to a situation that are different than hers."
The REAL MLM (Muggles Learning Magic) will rise up and take back our group’s initials ✊
Some illnesses are more severe than others. Bipolar, depression, cancer, everyone is at different stages. I have anxiety and can't even drive or go to the grocery store without fighting multiple panic attacks, yet for many others it does not affect them as much.
My thoughts EXACTLY! Depression shows up in different ways, whether it be high functioning or barely able to even get out of bed.
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
I truly hope that the people who are leading these meetings see your videos and realize how horrible they are! Probably not but thanks for calling them out!!
“Looks like she didn’t leave her criminal record in the past.” When she said that I was like 😐😵 that’s illegal
Right?! Literal identity theft. Jfc.
I cant believe she said that so casually knowing this will be uploaded to TH-cam. Im sure most if not all of the girls had the same reaction in their mind that we did. But they cant dare criticize or question their master! So many creepy cult vibes.. This one REALLY proved the vulnerability of the people who get sucked into MLMs...every single one said they lack confidence..sad to see
She is continuing her criminal record with fraud Congrats to Waluigi for being an upstanding citizen
And a toxic way to look at a relationship. "Better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission" lmao maybe in an event that is small.. Like spending $50 bucks...... But towards an identity theft!!! That's an 'I'm leaving you'. Situation
Wait ... what? What did I miss? Can you time stamp me, somebody?
I have Hashimotos Disease (a thyroid autoimmune disease) and I always get messages from Beach Body and other MLMs saying their products could "cure" my illness. They're so predatory.
I have a friend with Grave's disease and she works so hard regulating her diet to keep things in check. Her initial motivation was to be able to have a baby (she succeeded) and now works at it to just feel good and healthy. It makes me angry that MLMs target people in your situation when they have no knowledge of what it takes to care for yourself. Fortunately no one has targeted me, but I'm sure they think they could cure my anxiety. I cannot imagine how my anxiety would sky rocket if I were in one of these schemes....
You'd think glasses would be cured of all her ailments by now 🤣😂
Isn't that illegal?
Yesterday I was like “I need another Kiki anti mlm vid” and my PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED 😍 she’s so real and she phrases her criticisms so freaking well. Amazing.
ME TOO, so happy to see this upload 🤩
Whoa that ending! Using the SS number behind your husbands back!!
“It’s easier to ask forgiveness than permission” That main speaker is toxic trash.
The girl in the glasses seems to have a lot of issues and she keeps "flaunting" them. Like "I have insomnia. I have crohn's. I have this disease." She really needs to stop saying gnarly
It's a power play. Lowers the bar to impress people the more she seems like the underdog. Super manipulative and always a bad sign when somebody lists every little thing they struggle with off the bat.
She's a complete cringe fest 😬😳🤢🤮
"You too can be like meeeeee!"
Yeah...about that?
Omg I skimmed through the vid does she really have Crohn’s?! Because I do and if she’s using it to push this shit I swearrrrrr 🤦🏾♀️🤬
These MLM people are embarrassing lol
Lady: Make a healthy life for yourself.
Same lady: I don't sleep and I vape.
She ain't no lady😂
Definitely a beast of a personality.. sounded like such a nasty person the entire time 🤯
Right??? 🤦♀️
😭😂😭
“I signed my husband up with his social security number and he didn’t even know it”-- BIG YIKES.
Aaaaaaaand to the courthouse for a divorce immediately.
Dr.CandyStriper my wife and I are getting a divorce right now . She’s become so out of touch with reality because of beach body . I was paying for her products monthly . I told her how disingenuous she was being but it only pushed her further away . It’s sad because she used to be a good person .
And she used my dd214 to get whatever discount
@@christopherjackson5922 oh God I'm so sorry.
I swear MLMs ruin so many relationships. It's one of their many side effects
Christopher Jackson I’m not 100% but isn’t that illegal? If you didn’t authorize her use of your DD214? My husband separated a year ago but I still have very little knowledge on how the military handles those things.
I just came across this randomly but i love your vibe haha just like sarcastic and chill "uuuhh yeah, you're talking to criminals..."
They definitely use that tactic of "Oh, I have that condition" or "I know someone that has that condition" and it always is 100% insincere!!! I have about 5 serious health conditions, including kidney failure and I'm on dialysis. I had the vultures circling and trying to bring me into their teams, and every single one knew people who had ALL my same issues! Most days I can barely drag myself out of bed, and had someone tell me that was great, because that meant I had so much time to do this business while just chilling in my bed! Yeah, cause I'm just hanging out!
you just hanging out?! what the actual f**k? 🤦♀️
That is BEYOND awful 🤦🏼♀️ mlm’s aren’t known for their decorum
What I get told is that their products would “heal” me and turn me into a productive citizen - as if I’m not one now 😑
🙏🙏🙏🙏
My mom has kidney failure and one of her coworkers told her Arbonne could cure her. I’m so sorry you have to go through this shit.
Yes I’ll be part of your downline Kiki :)
Wow... thank you for bringing attention to this!! I had a neighbor who was my age and a really sweet person. We got coffee one day and after that every time we interacted she tried to get me to join Beachbody. She always asked: “Is there any way I can help you attain your nutrition and fitness goals?”
Girl, no. I literally wanted to hangout as friends, not be a pawn in your business plan.
*True*
That’s so awkward, how did you respond 😭💀
Imagine not being able to take a shit in peace. Sounds like time freedom to me
Another thing I can’t stand is that the “leader” constantly swears. If you are hanging out with your close friends, swear as much as you want , but if you are on a conference call, at least be professional.
Especially conference calls with people they don’t know!! My coworkers and I swear like sailors in the office but we would NEVER talk like that on a company-wide call!
Right? It’s not cool! It’s totally disrespectful! Some of them are mothers and their kids could easily overhear that.
I think the idea is not to sound professional so she comes off as “one of your girlfriends” and uses that to get people to open up to her. It’s very manipulative and sounds like she’s forcing into her speech to sound more “cool” or “relatable”.
I'm definitely not a prude but the words business and profanity do not mix. I've heard "leaders" with such poor and horrible speaking abilities that I often wonder how much of what they say is true. I'm not impressed, motivated or moved when I hear crass language. In fact, I lose respect.
YES YES YES. THE QUEEN IS BACK
I wouldn’t buy anything from someone who describes themselves as a “gnarly criminal”
That’s the sound of me logging off
Straight up laughed out loud. 😂
Right?! Like what part of that intro said trust her with your future?!
And why bring up nudes in a business setting?
And has made it very clear she's not above identity fraud
No legit “boss babe” works from their bedroom floor. Or calls themselves a “boss babe.”
Gretchen, stop trying to make gnarly happen! It's not going to happen! 💀💀
😂😂😂 best comment
Lol listen she can't make it happen but when I say it, it's happening 😂
Im from NY though where no one else says it lol and I don't overuse it
Do people say it on the west coast?
Haha that was gnarly dude 🤘jk 😜🤭
She signed up her spouse without his consent using his SSN and is planning to do the same to another person? Um, time to report her to the FTC! You can report her to their compliance but it seems, from other examples out there, that their compliance is sheltering these people and not taking action against them. *facepalm
I am so glad I got OUT of this MLM.
We’re all glad you did too. Congrats!
i'm sorry, did she say that her biggest check was $960 in a month? my father is a construction worker and he makes a little over 1k a WEEK let alone a month! $960 isn't even CLOSE to enough to support someone. that won't even cover rent, depending where you live. and that was her BIGGEST CHECK, which means that she often gets paid less than that. this is insane.
Paid
It's definitely nothing to brag about lol
Yeah, so even if you did this job for 8 hours/day and 5 days/week (which is prob less than what they ask), you're only making $6/hr... And that's her biggest cheque
Trades/skilled labor is the way of the future
Having lived off of £400 a month. I disagree. When you live on the poverty line, you get used to it. You pay your bills, buy food and go to work. And you don't have a car, go on holiday, go out or buy non-essential items.
the fact that I used to be in one of these and would have found this "motivational" at the time.. abusive relationship but in business form lol
She’s that annoyingly confident girl who draws people in because she has an overpowering personality. The only reason it works is because the people she draws in are insecure, vulnerable, and honestly because of this, huge pushovers. Her overpowering personality flusters them and because her personality commands a sort of authority they just want to trust her and be obedient. She’s very “girl, me too! Don’t matter! Who cares!” Which sounds supportive but it’s actually a sneaky ass way to invalidate somebody, because when it starts getting in the way of their work, they aren’t empathizing with them, they are saying “I did it. I got through work no matter _what._ So why can’t _you?”_
Exactly!! I’d tear up too knowing this chick wants to know my failure so she can then throw it back in my face and say “I was there too!” F off to her
Yes. She sounds like she has a shady past. She sounds like a con artist, so this MLM is perfect for her. She has this overpowering personality that sucks weak and vulnerable people in. She is perfect for this scam. Sad.
Ziggy Blu Waters I wonder how many impressionable people she got hooked on drugs/alcohol.
I'm sure her personality could be diagnosed as narcissist/sociopathic or psychopathic. We all have some of those traits in use but she's way over the top. She's weaponized her personality for maximum financial gain.
When I was younger and would encounter those type of personalities, I would just let them talk and not do anything to counter them. I didn't want a confrontation. Now that I'm older, I have no problem calling them on their BS.
Edgar Machado we don’t “all have some of those traits in use” wtf are you talking about? Do you know how rare a sociopathic or psychopathic diagnosis is made? Those are some serious disorders, you either have them or you don’t. Source: my husband has a PhD in clinical psychology. 🙄 I get so sick of people on the internet that just make shit up.
This video made me emotional. I’m so glad you blurred out these women’s faces. They are clearly very vulnerable and I wish there were people in their lives who could kindly speak wisdom to them. I hope that they see this video.
Completely agree!! 💕
I feel for that girl that’s crying so bad. She obviously is putting a lot on the line for this terrible company. Ugh I want to give her a hug and tell her it’ll all be ok...if she leaves 😩
Especially considering she just got a real job that sounded legit by how she described it - I hope that Beachbody and these consultants don't take that away from her. Kills me
If I hear "leverage that" one more time lol