I love that 14 and 15 instantly hugged and supported each other. Every other Doctor had mean encounters with his/her other incarnations, but these two showed love to each other, because thats what the 15th Doctor is: He's the Doctor Who learned to love himself.
I think the encounter on the 50th anniversary changed all that. 10 and 11 grew to really appreciate each other. It is natural that 14, with his feelings of 10 and no real sadness at regeneration, naturally felt kinship with 15.
@@vapoet Yes, its true, but often encounters between different doctors go from petty fights to mutual respect, but we have never seen the Doctor actually showing love to himself (in the literal sense)
@@ronaldeliascorderocalles Like being able to be your own birthing partner. No other 'next Doctor' has been able to help their previous version through this change.
1 year ago, Blind Wave: *sees 15 for the first time* "Who's this guy? He's got a cool mustache." The fact that the guys literally saw 15 over a year ago and didn't know. Love you guys.
@@lawdoesyt In the reaction to "Power of The Doctor", they reacted to a teaser for the 60th specials, which had a very small spoiler-proofed clip of 15 shouting "Someone tell me what the hell is going on here!" and yet they didn't know it was 15.
@@GhostOfNevermoreit was literally explained and shown in The End Of Time Part 1 when Lucy Saxon is in prison and the security team are cult followers of The Master including the woman with the red nail polish who picked up the ring in The Last Of The Time Lords
@@DiegoKawasaka I think what you're thinking of is The Magic Castle in Los Angeles, which is actually a very exclusive club for magicians, not technically a museum (though they do have historic displays). Neil Patrick Harris was the President of the Magic Castle for quite a while (but, he's not currently). The club is very famous and I read in an interview that Neil partly became a magician so, he could become a member of the Magic Castle. So, yeah, he is a legit magician! 🪄
Small point of interest - a wheelchair user had said on his channel about how he wouldn’t be able to go on the Tardis. He went to the screening of The Star Beast and met RTD who told him he had added the ramp because of him as he had seen his channel and it was known on set by the TH-camrs name. So guys RTD may be watching you lol
You can tell NPH is having the time of his life, especially during the Spice Girl scene Also loving the Tardis now having a ramp... just don’t tell the Daleks!!!
@@LukeJarrett1 He said he likes to think that happened (as in that is his own head cannon/personal wish for stuff like Tales of the Tardis). As far as the episode and current state of play in the show is Eric is right as that is what was said. Confusing yes he probably should have kept that to himself or in a later interview made it clearer.
15 is a healed Doctor. From all the fights and traumas the Doctor had to endure since the beginning, 14 is learning to accept them and heal himself with a little help from himself, his friends and companions. So the bigeneration kinda crosses the "natural" path of regeneration because the Doctor doesn't carry all the emotional weight of his past selves anymore. Also, it's also a clean fresh start for 15. Whereas in the 50th anniversary the Doctor saves Gallifrey, in the 60th the Doctor saves himself.
"F*ck yeah, dude, this is great!" Agreed wholeheartedly. This special was outstanding. Tennant, Tate, Harris, Ncuti, everyone shined. Harris looked like he was having a blast doing the dance. Sure looking forward to seeing what comes next. Also, it simply has to be said, if I had a nickel for every time Tennant's doctor is split in two & one goes on to live a domestic life with a former companion, I'd have two nickels. "Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice."
They definitely keep doing that with him bc everyone loves David so much and his connections with his companions I feel bad for Martha for never getting a domestic life with the doctor lol
@@chocolatedoughnut1305 Martha wouldn't want one XD She can visit him at Donna's, now she's got her memory back. I really hope we get to see Martha again with the new Doctor!
I don't recall her dying, even in Big Finish (though, some kin, did) See also To the Death and Lucie Miller, among other audio releases...@@thememeslinger7506
I like that the show made it explicit that Ncuti really is the next Dr. Like 'they aren't _both_ the 15th Dr and Ncuti isn't a left over pseudopod Dr'. Definitely saying to the viewers: there was _this_ one (Tennant) and _now_ we have this, next, one (Ncuti)
No because 14 didn't regenerate, just bigenerate which means he is still himself but Ncuti is 15 and is completely new. The rules of that will be explained in his future seasons but at some point 15 and 14 will merge again into one, likely during 15's regeneration. So 16 will have both their memories. OR a theory is that any memory that 14 creates, 15 already has/ gets it. Since timey whimey. But they both pretty much have to die at the same time if 15 regens since there is only one doctor and they both can't regen seperately. I probably think they'll go in the route of "14th dies happy with one last adventure and 15 will get his memories" anyways since they'll be in different places in time and space. Because I know they are gonna make some books or episodes with 14th and his own adventures. It would be cool if they both regen together holding hands. It would be so cool.
@@SandSlash242you’re really overthinking this. After resting and healing from his trauma, 14 will eventually regenerate into 15, at which point he’ll pop out during the bigeneration we see here. 15 isn’t a clone, or a metacrisis, or a separate person - he is THE Doctor, the next incarnation. It’s that simple
@@SandSlash242also I wouldn’t pin your hopes on further regular adventures for 14 - the entire point is that he’s parked, he’s healing from his trauma with his new family on Earth. did we even watch the same episode ???
Unfortunately you've got plenty of people claiming David is the real Doctor and Ncuti is some other one. I don't know how RTD didn't see this coming. It was such a bad decision and so disrespectful to Ncuti who was already going to have an uphill battle as the first black Doctor. The amount of people wishing for David to come back for specials or a miniseries is ridiculous
@@joevictor53RTD shouldn’t have to cater to those idiots, he makes it perfectly clear in the episode that 14 will eventually regenerate into 15. If people come away from this thinking they’re two separate characters, then that’s on them to rewatch and pay attention without looking at their phone every five seconds
But RTD said something in an interview tho about this being permanent, like all the doctors in all regenerations have a bigeneration now. It still confuses me.
Quick shoutout to Trinity Wells, the American "Anti-Zeedex" reporter, the same actress being brought back to DW last seen in the 2010 Specials with David's regeneration. One of only two actors to appear in DW, Torchwood and the Sarah Jane Adventures, nice to see her back again after so many years.
Kate REALLY wanted Donna on the team! Maybe she was as impressed as I was that Donna solved a mystery in two minutes her people had not been able to solve in two days.....
Kate did also say last season at the meeting of the former companions support group that she would try to recruit a couple of them and use their expertise. And considering Mel was present at that meeting and is now a UNIT employee it seems Kate was true to her word :)
Donna is a remarkable person to the UNIT team, not only because she was with the Doctor and stuff, because she WAS the Doctor and she knows a lot more than anyone else. If I were Kate I would've agreed on all of her conditions too lol
Eric is right on the bi-regeneration. They are still the same Doctor, one is 14, the other 15. It's a paradox - 15 is the one the makes 14 rest and heal, which in turn benefits 15, who is a healthier Doctor as a result of 14's work on himself. Also, they say how 15 is the older version, just like 14 is older than 11, or 1. Plus they shared the one outfit because they were the same person. Loved the division of the outfit across the two! And although we haven't had it expressly stated, I took it that because the Toymaker was in the universe and all things were possible, like the salt superstition, the myth that was bi-regeneration became no longer just a myth, but real, so the Toymaker caused the thing that led to his demise. I know some hate it and think DT is going to somehow overshadow Ncuti's era, but as RTD says there's always THE Doctor, which is the one we follow and now that's 15. Sure, I love that 14 isn't gone for now in this universe, as I love Tennant, but I'm excited for the new era with Ncuti. I think he's going to be great! They've already filmed his whole first series and are currently filming his second series!
So a bit on Melanie (the companion). She was the companion of the 6th and briefly the 7th doctor and im so glad she got a chance to come back. For a long time, due to no fault of the actress, Mel was usualy ranked as one of the worst and most annoying companions. Again this wasn't the actress fault, she was just introduced near when the show was in decline before it went on hiatus for over a decade, and she was never really given a chance to shine
I completely forgot about her tbh, I watched 7 and loved him, as well as his relationship dynamic with ace so much. I just remember her as the health nut girl, though I didn't watch 6 because... well the first few episodes are hard to watch for me personally.
There is also the simple fact that 6 strangled her after regenerating from 5 on a subconscious reflex action. That happened, because the Rani straight up killed him, and regenerated him into 7.
The most scary part to me in the whole episode was a simple line by the toymaker. He was scared of someone or something called the one who waits now that is ominous.
17:14 "I immediately liked him. He just had such an energy." Seconded. Dude popped in with the pedal to the metal and I loved it, this upcoming season should be a *blast*.
NGL, not too big a fan of bi-generation, but I like the idea that the only reason it worked was because of the toymaker. he can change reality on a whim, so him consciously or unconsciously making the myth of bi-generation an actual possibility is something I can see happening.
There is also a possibility that The Doctor himself played a role. He made a legend/myth/superstition reality last week at the edge of the Universe. I like the theory that bi-generation became real because of a combination of that, and the Celestial Toymaker being able to alter reality.
@@scotthewitt258 Now that I think about it, that could actually be the theme of the new season. Myths all over the universe suddenly being made real and causing new issues. Like maybe the myth about goblins who kidnap and eat children....? (As seen in the preview for the next episode?)
The Doctor invoked a superstition at the edges of existence, which allowed a god-like being to pass into the universe and caused a Timelord myth to become real. Sounds reasonable to me. Definitely odd, but hey it's Doctor Who. And 14 seems as though he remerges with 15 at some point (hence 15 saying he's better because 14 fixes himself - at some point 15 at least gets 14's memories of staying with Donna in some way).
@@scotthewitt258 I'd think that the Toymaker was having too much fun playing with this Doctor and while wanting a new one, he unconsciously wanted to continue playing with him. The Doctor literally says, "You did this." And The Toymaker loved the idea of multiple Doctors to play with.
"Who would die falling over a whiskey bottle?" Believe me, as someone who's seen episodes from Old Who with Sabalom Glitz, it's more likely than you think.
Russel was like, "I already traumatized people by having david regenerate once I don't wanna do it again." Love Ncuti's energy as well. Ten/14 not ended up alone made me happy as well. Ten dying alone in the tardis was too tragic. Also Donna getting time with her bff is wholesome as hell. Wish Rose and Tentoo could have showed up and had time with the extended family.
I immediately fell in love with the 15th doctor - Ncuti's smile and energy is just so different to what we have had in the past. He feels like he is bursting with energy. Can't wait for Christmas Day 2023 special and the full season of him in 2024.
For what it’s worth, we do kind of have presedence of two incarnations existing at the same time. In the last third Doctor story, we meet this two monks, which are not only revealed to be time lords, but the same time lord, in fact. When one of them dies, the other dissapears and that one regenerates to the other, being explained as a projection of his future self. There's also the whole thing with the Watcher.
This is why the bigeneration can make sense for me, it's like the early appearance of Cho-Je out of sync with the regeneration. 14 does eventually become 15, but the intervention of the Toymaker made him appear early. I don't think 14 can go on to become the Curator because his regeneration has already been used.
I love that he took half of David Tennant's clothes. So David had no underwear after the bi-generation (If you think about it), I adore the Looney Tunes way he doubled the Tardis. That was hilarious and just goofy enough for Doctor Who. David also did the communicating with his eyebrows thing at the end which is was a thing the Third Doctor did and he was the Earthbound Doctor. So much fun, creative, and brilliant stuff.
Funny that when 15th appears Melanie said "Eric?.." which is Ncutis characters name in "Sex Education" but the other probably though she was talking to Eric sitting at the table 😂
Fun fact for the Toymaker in Classic Who: he was played by Michael Gough, who played Alfred in the Tim Burton Batman movies (and Batman Forever and Batman & Robin).
It was cut from the edit but I hope you heard that little musical easter egg when the regeneration was happening and Melanie said that the Doctor will always be fantastic, the Ninth Doctor’s music started to play. I got CHILLS from that part, a little nod to an underrated Doctor.
Someone may have already clarified this in the comments, but when BBC announced Ncuti as the next doctor, they knew that DT was coming back but they didnt want us to know. So everyone expected Jodie to regenerate into Ncuti which made it a BIG shock when DT showed up haha. Kudos to them!
How do you figure? David is the one that we follow for the rest of the episode. Ncuti is just the add on. IMO bigeneration was disrespectful towards him and his Doctor
@@joevictor53 "bigeneration was disrespectful" Welp, you've made your 'thing to have a big opinion about' to type about in comments. No other instance of the Dr has ever been able to directly help themselves through the difficulty of regeneration, not to mention finding real healing. The show gave that to Ncuti to show on screen. Not to mention getting to be part of the, for the show, never seen before event. _Not to mention_ making him part of the 60th anniversary.
@@Tao_TologyI'm not a fan of the whole bigeneration thing either, I'd much prefer Tennant regenerating into Ncuti like normal, instead of this nonsense.
Absolutely loved this episode. Ncuti really feels like the Doctor already to me. I wasn't sure about the fumble of the ball to decide the ending but it's grown on me I think. Been looking forward to seeing your reaction.
@@Shelma32Reactions Sometimes it's the simple method. It appears that whoever issues the game challenge decides, so the Doctor's decided for the ball because they had the numbers advantage. Could've done chess or any wit or intelligence game but this way gave them better odds and allowed us to see the two Doctor's work together.
This is one of those episodes that people are going to get excited for future reaction channels to get to. It's a very classic event episode that just has everything I love from Doctor Who.
The memory Aaron is having is from a 15 second trailer you guys watched after reacting to the power of the doctor since lots of the questions asked if you would watch it. It had nph waving in the street. so happy you guys are happy with the bi-regeneration, as expected there is a group that didnt like it
The Master used up his 12 regenerations way back in classic and has been off the rails ever since. I think the Time Lords granted him a new set back in the Time War when he became Yana.
Calvin: regarding the Master and regenerations, he actually used up all his regenerations during the classic era. If you've seen the Paul McGann movie, the Doctor confirms in the opening narration that the Master has used all his lives. He was given a new set by the Time Lords for the Time War, with Derek Jacobi being the first, then it's John Simm > Michelle Gomez > Sacha Dhawan. So we're only on 4. Plus, the last two Masters of the classic era - Anthony Ainley and Eric Roberts - were the Master taking over someone else's body. So I don't think we've got anything to worry about!
You're missing a few from the new cycle: Alex McQueen was first, then a child version with no actor, then Derek Jacobi, John Simm, Michelle Gomez, Gina McKee (who referred to herself as the Lumiat), and then Sacha Dhawan. We're up to 7.
He may have also did some "fudging" with the rules when he gave the Cybermen Regeneration. Since we found out the 13 "limit" was an artificial construct of the Time Lords. He may have been able to "unblock" his limit somehow.
@@scotthewitt258 In the safety of my own mind, that was the point of his latest plan: having the Doctor regenerate and degenerate in his own machine, which can presumably measure and track the differences, so that he can adjust his own biology. That entire Master-Dalek-Cybermen plan makes no sense without a larger angle.
The one with red hair was Melanie Bush. Companion of the Sixth and Seventh Doctor. I've said it before many times, YOU HAVE TO WATCH CLASSIC DOCTOR WHO EPISODES AND DO REACTION VIDEOS ABOUT IT. Then you will see every references the New Who era has about the classic era. There are so many good classic episodes. You have to see them all!
Appears out of nowhere, dances to the spice girls, turns people into balloons and bullets into rose petals, leaves without giving any context. Our conclusion, absolute legend.
My belief is that 14 retires. Gets hired by UNIT as the Curator and ends up going back and regenerating into Tom Baker. It would make some sense, since that way there can be one Doctor that is the Doctor and one former Doctor that is now the Curator.. Old favorite faces and all that. :)
14 and 15 aren't separate people like the Meta Crisis Doctor. 14 retires, and will eventually regenerate into 15, where he feels much more lively due to his rest and relaxation.
Problem then, 15's saying to 14 saying "I'm okay, because you fix yourself" makes no sense if that's the case. Why would 14 fixing himself help 15 at all?
I found it really funny that Melanie didn't know that this was the last Tennant episode since part of why his reappearance was such a shock is that Ncuti Gatwa had already been announced as the next doctor. He's actually filmed his entire first season and is already filming his second season
The original Toymaker, who we see briefly in that flashback, was played by Michael Gough, who later went on to play Alfred in the Tim Burton Batman films.
These specials have been great fun, and I can't wait for Fifteen's era. I haven't watched Sex Education, but I was impressed with Ncuti's energy and demeanour. It's going to be fun watching it with you guys.
It's such a wonderful Ending (for now) for 14 (and 10) He finally can heal and has a very good friend- and now family - to help with it. I couldn't be happier, Donna is alive, has her memories, 14 is still there, we got 15 (and i already love him!) and the best is, both Tate an Tennant can return now at any point without timey-wimey-wibbly-wobbly stuff. ;Maybe the rumored UNIT spin off, i'm sure UNIT is more than happy to have an earthbound Doctor again.
About the wheelchair accessibity, a wheelchairbound fan wrote Davies about how they love Doctor Who but felt sad about it not having a ramp, so he made it happen
About the Toymaker having the ball drop, it’s suspected that it was the Master’s influence (as his gold tooth) that threw the Toymaker off ever so slightly, so the Doctor could defeat the Toymaker and the Master could escape.
Yeah Eric is right 14 eventually turns into 15 once he's healed.... I guess the Doctor's body couldn't go on any longer so it manifests a 'fixed' next Doctor during the regen while still keeping the current one to heal... I love the showing of mastery over time they have to do that sort of thing. Think it's also implied that the Doctor doing the salt thing in Wild Blue Yonder let all kinds of myths, superstitions and other realms manifest into the universe hence the Toymaker who previously existed in a realm governed by rules of play rather than physics, bi-regeneration also. 'I invoked a superstition at the edge of the universe where the walls are thin and anything is possible' the Doctor felt everything new come into the universe at the end of WBY...
More like returning. In expanded lore it is timelord who imposed rules and physics on universe. Before them the universe was wast diverse space with magic and science and myths.
@markc4008 then what does the rehab line mean then. People aren't just pulling this out of there ass. They are thinking it because the rehab line dosen't make sense unless 15 is from 14's future.
@@fostertalks2327 but how does it make sense if 15 IS from 14's future? 14 goes to rehab, heals himself, and becomes 15. That's the big theory right? So how is that rehab out of order? The line rehab out of order means that they've bigenerated, 15 is fine NOW, because of something 14 will do in the FUTURE. And because they're Time Lords, 15 gets the benefit of that before it's even happened. That's what makes it out of order.
@@markc4008 sorry but the second half of your comment doesn't really make sense to me. Your saying that the line means 15 is fine because of something 14 will do in the future right. How does 15 know about something 14 hasn't done yet if 14 doesn't eventually become him?
I’ve been waiting for this reaction. I personally loved this episode, NPH did a great job. There are some wobbly bits but that’s to be expected just now. Looking forward to Ncuti’s Doctor. 😊
4:44 Mark! Melanie, I love that hairstyle! But anyway.... Quote - Melanie "Mel" Bush is a fictional character played by Bonnie Langford in the long-running British science fiction television series Doctor Who. A computer programmer from the 20th century who is a companion of the Sixth and Seventh Doctors, she was a regular in the programme from 1986 to 1987 and returned in 2022 and 2023. Mel appeared in eight stories (22 episodes) and is the penultimate companion of the classic series. - End quote! 😊
I loved the toymaker, it often feels like new who has pulled all it can out of old who with all the new stuff they introduce. But to get a first doctor villain back is actually insane. I loved it.
To be clear Ncuti was actually announced as the next Doctor before David's return was announced. And the new Doctor is always THE Doctor, Russell states in the behind the scenes "while the Doctor, which is always the next Doctor, which is always true of Doctor Who"
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15:37 the callback to the pants joke Calvin made in the 50th Anniversary was perfect. Your own rules decree that there must be a pants joke in the 70th.
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I absolutely loved this episode and I enjoyed all of the specials. I didn’t want to say goodbye to David Tennant again and now I don’t really have to. I can’t wait to watch Fifteen’s run now!
It's not been officially confirmed but I can't think of any other interpretation of 15's "I'm okay because you fixed yourself" and "we're doing rehab out of order"@@FlyingwithFire
@@Tao_Tology The show said "I'm okay because you fixed yourself" and "we're doing rehab out of order", it's not clear enough, it's true. But I do believe that counts more for it to be that 14 eventually turns into 15 than not.
What I understand is that 15th already has the memories of what 14th has lived and WILL LIVE. Timey wimey. That's why 15th is fixed, beacuse of the things 14th will do to fix himself.
I’m guessing that the gold tooth was taken by Jinx Monsoon. I heard she is going to be on the show and the hand had nail polish on it. Who she is playing? No idea. The Rani?
The return of the Rani would be cool. Anything is possible now that we have seen a First Doctor adversary return. I'm hoping for The Valyard as well, honestly.
40:48 Mark! Hmm. I think it was one of "The Normies" that pointed at their monitor and yelled out, "That's the new Doctor! That's the new Doctor!" They reacted with confusion. 😮😅
Anything that gives us the possibility of more Tate/Tennant is fine with me. A UNIT spin-off maybe? Regardless Ncuti's doctor has a vibe that is just so joyful. His doctor seems like he's going to be so much fun.
The Master actually expended all of their lives back in the Classic Era, All of Nu-Who's incarnations of The Master have actually been past the initial 13. The Master was given a new body by the Time Lords during the Time War, I think its unknown how many regenerations they have left now.
Ahhhh yes! I’ve been looking forward to this special. So with my experience, I really liked this special! I really liked they brought back another classic villain from Classic who. The Toymaker, this character appeared in 1st Doctor’s era sadly most of his story is missing only part 4 of the story exists in bbc archives, but I’ve listened to several audio dramas featuring the ToyMaker. And the other things I liked was the return of Mel of course another companion from classic who as well. She’s was another companion from the 80s era of the show. I had a feeling Melanie was going to find it difficult watching this one because of the dolls coming to life. But of course we have our new 15th Doctor, which you probably saw in the Barbie movie. To be honest I’m a bit mixed on the whole Bi generation thing but it is what it is.
Me and John Logie Baird were born and from the same town in Scotland and my primary school (elementary) was even named after him. So I find it really cool to see him represented in a Doctor Who episode. 🏴❤️❤️
I really do love the theory that the 14th Doctor now is on the path to becoming "The Curator" that we saw in the 50th anniversary, reusing his faces and living a peaceful life with the knowledge that the universe will be safe in the hands of the 15th Doctor onwards
I doubt that RTD would bother tying this new timelord event and opportunity to '....and then ends up in that specific thing you've already seen'. Maybe......
If 14 goes on to become the curator, is 15 not the doctor we know anymore? Does 15 not need to retire? Does he have no trauma? He still has the memories of the past. I am genuinely interested in knowing why people love this theory so much. My question is always, what about 15?
@@Tao_Tology And I mean, it's Doctor Who, canon and continuity is important until it isn't, and things are often retconned later in some way anyway. It's kind of what i like about the show, it doesn't big itself down by trying to adhere to 60 years of canon. It is usually faithful to the 'current era' and otherwise has a "I guess we'll tie this in if we have to between now and never" approach.
Ncuti Gatwa made an awesome intro as the 15th doctor. love his positive energy. cant wait to watch his run, and with Russel T Davies back too i feel it's gonna be great.
I love that absolutely EVERYONE (myself included) thought Kate was gonna smack Ten/fourteen. I was thinking wait, why is she blaming the Doctor, he didn’t do anything. Nice fake out, Davies.
One form of bi-generation that may have happened before or might still happen is the Valeyard (who has been mentioned a couple times in the new show but not seen). Introduced during the 6th Doctor's life, the Valeyard was a Time Lord whom the Master then claimed was a manifestation of the Doctor's evil who had somehow split off during a regeneration in the Doctor's future. Regarding the Master's number of regenerations, he actually used his last one up during the 4th Doctor's life, then became a parasite stealing bodies for a while until being resurrected with a new set of regenerations during the Last Great Time War, so the Master's exact numbering at this point is a mystery.
Agree with Eric 15th doctor definitely suggests that he is fine because 14th doctor fixed himself in the past
Haven't even watched it yet, but he is right!
Or in the future? lol
@@notchrisrivero Depends on your perspective, time travel is like that sometimes😂
Yep, the 14th now goes off, fixes himself, and THEN becomes the 15th. It's all wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey!
@@DCComicsGamer'and THEN becomes'
14th _already_ became the 15th.
And also.......bifurcated.
“Well, that’s alright then!” is definitely going to become a meme.
Already happening on the Doctor Who meme subreddit and it's leaking into other places
@@joevictor53 Really?! Love it!!!
It already has
It's the modern day "but they are honourable men" for sure.
@@joevictor53well that's alright then!
I love that 14 and 15 instantly hugged and supported each other. Every other Doctor had mean encounters with his/her other incarnations, but these two showed love to each other, because thats what the 15th Doctor is:
He's the Doctor Who learned to love himself.
I think the encounter on the 50th anniversary changed all that. 10 and 11 grew to really appreciate each other. It is natural that 14, with his feelings of 10 and no real sadness at regeneration, naturally felt kinship with 15.
Previously, the closest we got was Clara getting a phone call from past-Doctor about his new form.
@@vapoet Yes, its true, but often encounters between different doctors go from petty fights to mutual respect, but we have never seen the Doctor actually showing love to himself (in the literal sense)
Cringe asf
@@ronaldeliascorderocalles Like being able to be your own birthing partner.
No other 'next Doctor' has been able to help their previous version through this change.
1 year ago,
Blind Wave: *sees 15 for the first time* "Who's this guy? He's got a cool mustache."
The fact that the guys literally saw 15 over a year ago and didn't know. Love you guys.
what vid?
@@lawdoesyt In the reaction to "Power of The Doctor", they reacted to a teaser for the 60th specials, which had a very small spoiler-proofed clip of 15 shouting "Someone tell me what the hell is going on here!" and yet they didn't know it was 15.
That tooth thing was EXACTLY like when The Master's ring got picked up.
Foreshadowing so intense, it caused an eclipse.
And that hand was never explained! So it can be resolved now!
Imagine the Master with even a fraction of the Toymaker's power
Love the reference to the end of the Flash Gordon movie too!
@@GhostOfNevermoreit was literally explained and shown in The End Of Time Part 1 when Lucy Saxon is in prison and the security team are cult followers of The Master including the woman with the red nail polish who picked up the ring in The Last Of The Time Lords
Red herring me thinks knowing St RustD ; )
NPH is an actual magician. He’s been doing magic since he was a kid
And is a certified member of the Magician’s Circle!
@@elliotblabla isn´t he even curator of a magic museum? i rember i saw a doku about that years ago
He wrote a children's novel around magicians. It's a clear passion of his!
@@DiegoKawasaka I think what you're thinking of is The Magic Castle in Los Angeles, which is actually a very exclusive club for magicians, not technically a museum (though they do have historic displays). Neil Patrick Harris was the President of the Magic Castle for quite a while (but, he's not currently). The club is very famous and I read in an interview that Neil partly became a magician so, he could become a member of the Magic Castle. So, yeah, he is a legit magician! 🪄
Doesn't he have ventrioloquist dummies as well?
Small point of interest - a wheelchair user had said on his channel about how he wouldn’t be able to go on the Tardis. He went to the screening of The Star Beast and met RTD who told him he had added the ramp because of him as he had seen his channel and it was known on set by the TH-camrs name. So guys RTD may be watching you lol
The Tharries ramp!!!
I like how the ramp isn't automatic
You can tell NPH is having the time of his life, especially during the Spice Girl scene
Also loving the Tardis now having a ramp... just don’t tell the Daleks!!!
One of my three favorite dance scenes in TV. And one of the others is also from Doctor Who.
The Master dancing to "Ra-Ra-Rasputin", by Boney M.
What would Daleks do with the information?
@@Jantzkuthey can roll in
@@Jantzku Exactly. Daleks don't need a ramp. They can hover up a stairwell, so that little "lip" on the threshold would be no problem.
@@jaymorrison4886 They can fly/hover in anyway.
Eric is 100% right about how Ncuti is just a future version of David, don't let them gaslight you😂
Ncuti has said David is the reason he became an actor 😊
As they said in the beginning, you can’t argue with Aaron 😂 even (especially) when he’s wrong, like he is now
RTD clearly said on the episode commentary that the intention was every Doctor before Tennant also biregenerated in that moment
@@LukeJarrett1 He said he likes to think that happened (as in that is his own head cannon/personal wish for stuff like Tales of the Tardis). As far as the episode and current state of play in the show is Eric is right as that is what was said. Confusing yes he probably should have kept that to himself or in a later interview made it clearer.
@LukeJarrett1 he said that what he personally likes to believe, not that it actually is.
15 is a healed Doctor. From all the fights and traumas the Doctor had to endure since the beginning, 14 is learning to accept them and heal himself with a little help from himself, his friends and companions. So the bigeneration kinda crosses the "natural" path of regeneration because the Doctor doesn't carry all the emotional weight of his past selves anymore. Also, it's also a clean fresh start for 15.
Whereas in the 50th anniversary the Doctor saves Gallifrey, in the 60th the Doctor saves himself.
"F*ck yeah, dude, this is great!" Agreed wholeheartedly.
This special was outstanding. Tennant, Tate, Harris, Ncuti, everyone shined. Harris looked like he was having a blast doing the dance. Sure looking forward to seeing what comes next.
Also, it simply has to be said, if I had a nickel for every time Tennant's doctor is split in two & one goes on to live a domestic life with a former companion, I'd have two nickels. "Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice."
They definitely keep doing that with him bc everyone loves David so much and his connections with his companions
I feel bad for Martha for never getting a domestic life with the doctor lol
@@chocolatedoughnut1305 Martha wouldn't want one XD She can visit him at Donna's, now she's got her memory back. I really hope we get to see Martha again with the new Doctor!
The Doctor: *Retires with a new family*
Meanwhile his gallifreyan granddaughter who has been waiting decades for him to come back: 👁👄👁
Unless she regenerate she long gone. For him only
And the Ponds who were his literal family, with a wife and parents-in-law. I get he can't go back to them, but it would have been worth a mention
Supposedly she took part in and died during the time war
Well she saw him again in the 5 Doctors and non of them cared
I don't recall her dying, even in Big Finish (though, some kin, did)
See also To the Death and Lucie Miller, among other audio releases...@@thememeslinger7506
I like that the show made it explicit that Ncuti really is the next Dr.
Like 'they aren't _both_ the 15th Dr and Ncuti isn't a left over pseudopod Dr'.
Definitely saying to the viewers: there was _this_ one (Tennant) and _now_ we have this, next, one (Ncuti)
No because 14 didn't regenerate, just bigenerate which means he is still himself but Ncuti is 15 and is completely new. The rules of that will be explained in his future seasons but at some point 15 and 14 will merge again into one, likely during 15's regeneration. So 16 will have both their memories. OR a theory is that any memory that 14 creates, 15 already has/ gets it. Since timey whimey. But they both pretty much have to die at the same time if 15 regens since there is only one doctor and they both can't regen seperately. I probably think they'll go in the route of "14th dies happy with one last adventure and 15 will get his memories" anyways since they'll be in different places in time and space. Because I know they are gonna make some books or episodes with 14th and his own adventures. It would be cool if they both regen together holding hands. It would be so cool.
@@SandSlash242you’re really overthinking this. After resting and healing from his trauma, 14 will eventually regenerate into 15, at which point he’ll pop out during the bigeneration we see here. 15 isn’t a clone, or a metacrisis, or a separate person - he is THE Doctor, the next incarnation. It’s that simple
@@SandSlash242also I wouldn’t pin your hopes on further regular adventures for 14 - the entire point is that he’s parked, he’s healing from his trauma with his new family on Earth. did we even watch the same episode ???
Unfortunately you've got plenty of people claiming David is the real Doctor and Ncuti is some other one. I don't know how RTD didn't see this coming. It was such a bad decision and so disrespectful to Ncuti who was already going to have an uphill battle as the first black Doctor. The amount of people wishing for David to come back for specials or a miniseries is ridiculous
@@joevictor53RTD shouldn’t have to cater to those idiots, he makes it perfectly clear in the episode that 14 will eventually regenerate into 15. If people come away from this thinking they’re two separate characters, then that’s on them to rewatch and pay attention without looking at their phone every five seconds
Not only did NPH do the cardistry, he also did the marionettes in the "WELL THAT'S ALL RIGHT THEN" sequence (in the wide shots, anyway)
Eric’s 100% right, 14 will eventually die and regenerate into 15. It definitely should have been more clearly explained in the episode, though.
But RTD said something in an interview tho about this being permanent, like all the doctors in all regenerations have a bigeneration now. It still confuses me.
@@davidpo5517that was a joke he made in the commentary it’s not true
@@obiwankenobi687 rly? Cuz I remember him going on about it for a bit, and saying that's how he was gonna explain older looking doctors returning.
@davidpo5517 He said that's what he personally likes to believe, not that that's what actually happened
I doubt that honestly i feel as though 14 will end up as the currator down the road
Quick shoutout to Trinity Wells, the American "Anti-Zeedex" reporter, the same actress being brought back to DW last seen in the 2010 Specials with David's regeneration.
One of only two actors to appear in DW, Torchwood and the Sarah Jane Adventures, nice to see her back again after so many years.
Kate REALLY wanted Donna on the team!
Maybe she was as impressed as I was that Donna solved a mystery in two minutes her people had not been able to solve in two days.....
Kate did also say last season at the meeting of the former companions support group that she would try to recruit a couple of them and use their expertise.
And considering Mel was present at that meeting and is now a UNIT employee it seems Kate was true to her word :)
Donna is a remarkable person to the UNIT team, not only because she was with the Doctor and stuff, because she WAS the Doctor and she knows a lot more than anyone else. If I were Kate I would've agreed on all of her conditions too lol
Common sense + Timelord is so very overpowered.
i believe donna still doctordonna :(
@@fnur6660she has. I think it can be activated again if it needs to be used
Eric is right on the bi-regeneration. They are still the same Doctor, one is 14, the other 15. It's a paradox - 15 is the one the makes 14 rest and heal, which in turn benefits 15, who is a healthier Doctor as a result of 14's work on himself. Also, they say how 15 is the older version, just like 14 is older than 11, or 1. Plus they shared the one outfit because they were the same person. Loved the division of the outfit across the two! And although we haven't had it expressly stated, I took it that because the Toymaker was in the universe and all things were possible, like the salt superstition, the myth that was bi-regeneration became no longer just a myth, but real, so the Toymaker caused the thing that led to his demise. I know some hate it and think DT is going to somehow overshadow Ncuti's era, but as RTD says there's always THE Doctor, which is the one we follow and now that's 15. Sure, I love that 14 isn't gone for now in this universe, as I love Tennant, but I'm excited for the new era with Ncuti. I think he's going to be great! They've already filmed his whole first series and are currently filming his second series!
He also stated that the Tardis is the same Tardis
So a bit on Melanie (the companion). She was the companion of the 6th and briefly the 7th doctor and im so glad she got a chance to come back. For a long time, due to no fault of the actress, Mel was usualy ranked as one of the worst and most annoying companions. Again this wasn't the actress fault, she was just introduced near when the show was in decline before it went on hiatus for over a decade, and she was never really given a chance to shine
Well, she was brought in as the companion of the most annoying of the Doctors.
I had no idea. Well, she was lovely in this episode & not in the slightest bit annoying.
I completely forgot about her tbh, I watched 7 and loved him, as well as his relationship dynamic with ace so much. I just remember her as the health nut girl, though I didn't watch 6 because... well the first few episodes are hard to watch for me personally.
She was also a precursor to River Song, with the Doctor meeting her in the wrong order.
There is also the simple fact that 6 strangled her after regenerating from 5 on a subconscious reflex action.
That happened, because the Rani straight up killed him, and regenerated him into 7.
The most scary part to me in the whole episode was a simple line by the toymaker. He was scared of someone or something called the one who waits now that is ominous.
17:14 "I immediately liked him. He just had such an energy."
Seconded. Dude popped in with the pedal to the metal and I loved it, this upcoming season should be a *blast*.
NGL, not too big a fan of bi-generation, but I like the idea that the only reason it worked was because of the toymaker. he can change reality on a whim, so him consciously or unconsciously making the myth of bi-generation an actual possibility is something I can see happening.
There is also a possibility that The Doctor himself played a role. He made a legend/myth/superstition reality last week at the edge of the Universe.
I like the theory that bi-generation became real because of a combination of that, and the Celestial Toymaker being able to alter reality.
@@scotthewitt258 Now that I think about it, that could actually be the theme of the new season. Myths all over the universe suddenly being made real and causing new issues.
Like maybe the myth about goblins who kidnap and eat children....?
(As seen in the preview for the next episode?)
The Doctor invoked a superstition at the edges of existence, which allowed a god-like being to pass into the universe and caused a Timelord myth to become real. Sounds reasonable to me.
Definitely odd, but hey it's Doctor Who. And 14 seems as though he remerges with 15 at some point (hence 15 saying he's better because 14 fixes himself - at some point 15 at least gets 14's memories of staying with Donna in some way).
@@scotthewitt258 I'd think that the Toymaker was having too much fun playing with this Doctor and while wanting a new one, he unconsciously wanted to continue playing with him. The Doctor literally says, "You did this." And The Toymaker loved the idea of multiple Doctors to play with.
I never thought of it that way!
"Who would die falling over a whiskey bottle?"
Believe me, as someone who's seen episodes from Old Who with Sabalom Glitz, it's more likely than you think.
I think Mel is snapping her travel companions' necks for fun.
She also claimed 6 had to regenerate after falling off an exercise bike
Russel was like, "I already traumatized people by having david regenerate once I don't wanna do it again." Love Ncuti's energy as well. Ten/14 not ended up alone made me happy as well. Ten dying alone in the tardis was too tragic. Also Donna getting time with her bff is wholesome as hell. Wish Rose and Tentoo could have showed up and had time with the extended family.
This was the third regeneration scene with tennant and the second where he didn't regenerate
I immediately fell in love with the 15th doctor - Ncuti's smile and energy is just so different to what we have had in the past. He feels like he is bursting with energy. Can't wait for Christmas Day 2023 special and the full season of him in 2024.
For what it’s worth, we do kind of have presedence of two incarnations existing at the same time.
In the last third Doctor story, we meet this two monks, which are not only revealed to be time lords, but the same time lord, in fact. When one of them dies, the other dissapears and that one regenerates to the other, being explained as a projection of his future self.
There's also the whole thing with the Watcher.
This is why the bigeneration can make sense for me, it's like the early appearance of Cho-Je out of sync with the regeneration. 14 does eventually become 15, but the intervention of the Toymaker made him appear early.
I don't think 14 can go on to become the Curator because his regeneration has already been used.
I love that he took half of David Tennant's clothes. So David had no underwear after the bi-generation (If you think about it), I adore the Looney Tunes way he doubled the Tardis. That was hilarious and just goofy enough for Doctor Who. David also did the communicating with his eyebrows thing at the end which is was a thing the Third Doctor did and he was the Earthbound Doctor. So much fun, creative, and brilliant stuff.
I already like Ncuti's energy. He has instant charisma. :) FInally, The Doctor is not longer defined by his trauma.
Funny that when 15th appears Melanie said "Eric?.." which is Ncutis characters name in "Sex Education" but the other probably though she was talking to Eric sitting at the table 😂
06:36 it was established in Capaldi's run that, in the event of a global crisis, The Doctor is declared president of the world.
Fun fact for the Toymaker in Classic Who: he was played by Michael Gough, who played Alfred in the Tim Burton Batman movies (and Batman Forever and Batman & Robin).
It was cut from the edit but I hope you heard that little musical easter egg when the regeneration was happening and Melanie said that the Doctor will always be fantastic, the Ninth Doctor’s music started to play. I got CHILLS from that part, a little nod to an underrated Doctor.
Fun fact; the original Toymaker was played by Michael Gough AKA Alfred from the Burton/Schumacher Batman films.
Someone may have already clarified this in the comments, but when BBC announced Ncuti as the next doctor, they knew that DT was coming back but they didnt want us to know. So everyone expected Jodie to regenerate into Ncuti which made it a BIG shock when DT showed up haha. Kudos to them!
Yes I remember thinking they were going to find a way to bring Ten back into it I had no idea he would be 14!
I do love that as soon as Ncuti arrives, he essentially becomes the main character for the rest of the episode and not David's incarnation
How do you figure? David is the one that we follow for the rest of the episode. Ncuti is just the add on. IMO bigeneration was disrespectful towards him and his Doctor
@@joevictor53 "bigeneration was disrespectful"
Welp, you've made your 'thing to have a big opinion about' to type about in comments.
No other instance of the Dr has ever been able to directly help themselves through the difficulty of regeneration, not to mention finding real healing.
The show gave that to Ncuti to show on screen. Not to mention getting to be part of the, for the show, never seen before event.
_Not to mention_ making him part of the 60th anniversary.
A main character.
@@Tao_TologyI'm not a fan of the whole bigeneration thing either, I'd much prefer Tennant regenerating into Ncuti like normal, instead of this nonsense.
@@awkward9661 Yes, you have 'a thing to say', now.
Me still waiting to see their reaction to the new Christmas special
Absolutely loved this episode. Ncuti really feels like the Doctor already to me. I wasn't sure about the fumble of the ball to decide the ending but it's grown on me I think. Been looking forward to seeing your reaction.
It's grown on me too. A simple resolution - the dropping of a ball - for a simple, primitive game; the first ever game.
@@ameliacraiig4193 Yeah it makes more sense than I thought even yesterday.
@@Shelma32Reactions Sometimes it's the simple method. It appears that whoever issues the game challenge decides, so the Doctor's decided for the ball because they had the numbers advantage. Could've done chess or any wit or intelligence game but this way gave them better odds and allowed us to see the two Doctor's work together.
Nice to have reactors who haven't seen all the trailers and read all the Who news.
Ncuti, is actually pretty easy to pronounce once you understand it phonetically.
SHOO-ti GAT-wa
Exactly. The spelling makes it look more intimidating that it actually is
Too bad they missed the "I made a jigsaw out of your history", opening up the story with the timeless child stuff. Would be cool for them to know
This is one of those episodes that people are going to get excited for future reaction channels to get to. It's a very classic event episode that just has everything I love from Doctor Who.
My mum told me when I was a kid that Yogi Bear was named for John Logie Baird. Excellent run of 3 reactions, really enjoyed this vibe of 4.
The memory Aaron is having is from a 15 second trailer you guys watched after reacting to the power of the doctor since lots of the questions asked if you would watch it. It had nph waving in the street.
so happy you guys are happy with the bi-regeneration, as expected there is a group that didnt like it
Aaron thought it was Matt Smith.
Which also means that they knew who the next doctor was as well
@@Togemon5 They didn't.
Ncuti is such a joy! I'm ready for much more of his 'Doctor'. 😊
The reason 15 isn’t wearing any pants is cause 14 and 15 are sharing one set of clothes. Meaning 14 battled the toy maker commando.
Are you guys going to react to part 4?
The Master used up his 12 regenerations way back in classic and has been off the rails ever since. I think the Time Lords granted him a new set back in the Time War when he became Yana.
The Master was offered a new regeneration cycle during The Five Doctors by the Time Lords in exchange that he helped the Doctors.
@@TwilightLink77 And also, he wasn't even in his original body.
Calvin: regarding the Master and regenerations, he actually used up all his regenerations during the classic era. If you've seen the Paul McGann movie, the Doctor confirms in the opening narration that the Master has used all his lives. He was given a new set by the Time Lords for the Time War, with Derek Jacobi being the first, then it's John Simm > Michelle Gomez > Sacha Dhawan. So we're only on 4. Plus, the last two Masters of the classic era - Anthony Ainley and Eric Roberts - were the Master taking over someone else's body. So I don't think we've got anything to worry about!
You're missing a few from the new cycle: Alex McQueen was first, then a child version with no actor, then Derek Jacobi, John Simm, Michelle Gomez, Gina McKee (who referred to herself as the Lumiat), and then Sacha Dhawan. We're up to 7.
Ainley is my favourite
He may have also did some "fudging" with the rules when he gave the Cybermen Regeneration. Since we found out the 13 "limit" was an artificial construct of the Time Lords. He may have been able to "unblock" his limit somehow.
@@scotthewitt258 In the safety of my own mind, that was the point of his latest plan: having the Doctor regenerate and degenerate in his own machine, which can presumably measure and track the differences, so that he can adjust his own biology.
That entire Master-Dalek-Cybermen plan makes no sense without a larger angle.
I think that The Doctor received so much regeneration energy from Gallifrey on Trenzelore, he is effectively on par with Capt. Jack.
The one with red hair was Melanie Bush. Companion of the Sixth and Seventh Doctor. I've said it before many times, YOU HAVE TO WATCH CLASSIC DOCTOR WHO EPISODES AND DO REACTION VIDEOS ABOUT IT. Then you will see every references the New Who era has about the classic era. There are so many good classic episodes. You have to see them all!
Appears out of nowhere, dances to the spice girls, turns people into balloons and bullets into rose petals, leaves without giving any context.
Our conclusion, absolute legend.
*sees new blind wave reaction any day in December*
Me: THANK YOU SANTA
My belief is that 14 retires. Gets hired by UNIT as the Curator and ends up going back and regenerating into Tom Baker.
It would make some sense, since that way there can be one Doctor that is the Doctor and one former Doctor that is now the Curator.. Old favorite faces and all that. :)
14 and 15 aren't separate people like the Meta Crisis Doctor.
14 retires, and will eventually regenerate into 15, where he feels much more lively due to his rest and relaxation.
@@HB-fq9nn Perhaps, perhaps not.. "Who" knows. Until proven otherwise i will maintain my belief. :)
@@anumeon Fair enough.
Problem then, 15's saying to 14 saying "I'm okay, because you fix yourself" makes no sense if that's the case. Why would 14 fixing himself help 15 at all?
@@midgetwars1Because they're the same person?
I found it really funny that Melanie didn't know that this was the last Tennant episode since part of why his reappearance was such a shock is that Ncuti Gatwa had already been announced as the next doctor. He's actually filmed his entire first season and is already filming his second season
The original Toymaker, who we see briefly in that flashback, was played by Michael Gough, who later went on to play Alfred in the Tim Burton Batman films.
19:16 Mark! Pick a random but funny moment to have this "Toymaker" switch places with the one from "DC"! Or even "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang"! 😅😂
Loved the episode, easily the best of the specials. Can't wait to see wait Nctui brings to the show.
These specials have been great fun, and I can't wait for Fifteen's era. I haven't watched Sex Education, but I was impressed with Ncuti's energy and demeanour. It's going to be fun watching it with you guys.
Sex Ed is awesome, I hope the guys watch it
It's such a wonderful Ending (for now) for 14 (and 10) He finally can heal and has a very good friend- and now family - to help with it. I couldn't be happier, Donna is alive, has her memories, 14 is still there, we got 15 (and i already love him!) and the best is, both Tate an Tennant can return now at any point without timey-wimey-wibbly-wobbly stuff. ;Maybe the rumored UNIT spin off, i'm sure UNIT is more than happy to have an earthbound Doctor again.
About the wheelchair accessibity, a wheelchairbound fan wrote Davies about how they love Doctor Who but felt sad about it not having a ramp, so he made it happen
But.. why is that important 😂
so they can get in the tardis@@reservoirdude92
I think he should have said it was always there, just not shown being utilized. It would have explained K9.
@@reservoirdude92 Yeah why should we care about disabled people?! How dare they want to be treated like everyone else!
Not just any fan. TH-camr tharries
About the Toymaker having the ball drop, it’s suspected that it was the Master’s influence (as his gold tooth) that threw the Toymaker off ever so slightly, so the Doctor could defeat the Toymaker and the Master could escape.
Yeah Eric is right 14 eventually turns into 15 once he's healed.... I guess the Doctor's body couldn't go on any longer so it manifests a 'fixed' next Doctor during the regen while still keeping the current one to heal... I love the showing of mastery over time they have to do that sort of thing.
Think it's also implied that the Doctor doing the salt thing in Wild Blue Yonder let all kinds of myths, superstitions and other realms manifest into the universe hence the Toymaker who previously existed in a realm governed by rules of play rather than physics, bi-regeneration also.
'I invoked a superstition at the edge of the universe where the walls are thin and anything is possible' the Doctor felt everything new come into the universe at the end of WBY...
More like returning. In expanded lore it is timelord who imposed rules and physics on universe. Before them the universe was wast diverse space with magic and science and myths.
But that's not what bigeneration is. 14 doesn't need to regenerate into 15.
@markc4008 then what does the rehab line mean then. People aren't just pulling this out of there ass. They are thinking it because the rehab line dosen't make sense unless 15 is from 14's future.
@@fostertalks2327 but how does it make sense if 15 IS from 14's future? 14 goes to rehab, heals himself, and becomes 15. That's the big theory right? So how is that rehab out of order?
The line rehab out of order means that they've bigenerated, 15 is fine NOW, because of something 14 will do in the FUTURE. And because they're Time Lords, 15 gets the benefit of that before it's even happened. That's what makes it out of order.
@@markc4008 sorry but the second half of your comment doesn't really make sense to me. Your saying that the line means 15 is fine because of something 14 will do in the future right. How does 15 know about something 14 hasn't done yet if 14 doesn't eventually become him?
20:58 Yes it makes sense Eric, you're absolutely right and Aaron is wrong!
I’ve been waiting for this reaction. I personally loved this episode, NPH did a great job. There are some wobbly bits but that’s to be expected just now. Looking forward to Ncuti’s Doctor. 😊
The full circle of "he's wearing his pants!" 😂
4:44 Mark! Melanie, I love that hairstyle! But anyway....
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Melanie "Mel" Bush is a fictional character played by Bonnie Langford in the long-running British science fiction television series Doctor Who. A computer programmer from the 20th century who is a companion of the Sixth and Seventh Doctors, she was a regular in the programme from 1986 to 1987 and returned in 2022 and 2023. Mel appeared in eight stories (22 episodes) and is the penultimate companion of the classic series.
- End quote! 😊
If you watch with closed captioning on, after the Doctor splits, the captioning starts calling Tenant the 10th Doctor again.
I loved the toymaker, it often feels like new who has pulled all it can out of old who with all the new stuff they introduce. But to get a first doctor villain back is actually insane. I loved it.
To be clear Ncuti was actually announced as the next Doctor before David's return was announced. And the new Doctor is always THE Doctor, Russell states in the behind the scenes "while the Doctor, which is always the next Doctor, which is always true of Doctor Who"
I want this show so bad: Doctor Who's Agents of U.N.I.T.
I'm very hopeful one of the spin-offs will be about UNIT.
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Notes: I miss being able to view the actual series itself. Your reactions are fun! But dang! I'm not caught up with the reactions to the 50th Anniversary! Time flies!
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fun fact: the first time the Doctor beat the Toymaker the Doctor basically cheated.
Not really, he played HIS game to the rules. He just tricked the Toymaker into letting him win while inside his Tardis so he could escape.
15:37 the callback to the pants joke Calvin made in the 50th Anniversary was perfect. Your own rules decree that there must be a pants joke in the 70th.
Melanie was Sylvester McCoys's assistant in the mid eighties
Yes. She started with Colin Baker, after the tragic loss of Peri. And bridged the Regeneration into Sylvester.
@@scotthewitt258 indeed
@@scotthewitt258The tragic loss being that she married Brian Blessed so I'm not sure who it was more tragic for.
Would love to see Neil return as the Toymaker. He killed it
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7:00 The TARDIS doesn't always take The Doctor where he want to go... but she always tooks him where he needs to go.
50th Special: "He's got his pants!"
60th Special: "He doesn't have his pants!"
17:10 Melanie, Ncuti Gatwa's name is pronounced "shoot-ee gat-wah". There are plenty of videos online of him pronouncing his own name.
I absolutely loved this episode and I enjoyed all of the specials. I didn’t want to say goodbye to David Tennant again and now I don’t really have to. I can’t wait to watch Fifteen’s run now!
Eric, heal fast and well!!!
No Christmas special reaction?
Where's the reaction to the 2023 Christmas Special?
Haven't seen the discussion yet but the Doctor splitting means that 14 will eventually merge back with 15 it's just a little out of order.
its not been calirified if thats how it works
It's not been officially confirmed but I can't think of any other interpretation of 15's "I'm okay because you fixed yourself" and "we're doing rehab out of order"@@FlyingwithFire
Nothing in the show said that, nor have any of the bts interviews etc.
RTD specifically describes it as 'he's there, he's fine' i.e. 'retired'.
@@Tao_Tology The show said "I'm okay because you fixed yourself" and "we're doing rehab out of order", it's not clear enough, it's true. But I do believe that counts more for it to be that 14 eventually turns into 15 than not.
@@matheusflores619and in the commentary David suggests it
What I understand is that 15th already has the memories of what 14th has lived and WILL LIVE. Timey wimey. That's why 15th is fixed, beacuse of the things 14th will do to fix himself.
I’m guessing that the gold tooth was taken by Jinx Monsoon. I heard she is going to be on the show and the hand had nail polish on it. Who she is playing? No idea. The Rani?
The return of the Rani would be cool. Anything is possible now that we have seen a First Doctor adversary return. I'm hoping for The Valyard as well, honestly.
40:48 Mark! Hmm. I think it was one of "The Normies" that pointed at their monitor and yelled out, "That's the new Doctor! That's the new Doctor!" They reacted with confusion. 😮😅
The original Toymaker was good played by the Same actor who was Alfred in The Batman movies from 1989-1997
Im still not over the fact NPH didnt know what Doctor Who was before this.
Anything that gives us the possibility of more Tate/Tennant is fine with me. A UNIT spin-off maybe? Regardless Ncuti's doctor has a vibe that is just so joyful. His doctor seems like he's going to be so much fun.
The Master actually expended all of their lives back in the Classic Era, All of Nu-Who's incarnations of The Master have actually been past the initial 13. The Master was given a new body by the Time Lords during the Time War, I think its unknown how many regenerations they have left now.
Ahhhh yes! I’ve been looking forward to this special. So with my experience, I really liked this special! I really liked they brought back another classic villain from Classic who. The Toymaker, this character appeared in 1st Doctor’s era sadly most of his story is missing only part 4 of the story exists in bbc archives, but I’ve listened to several audio dramas featuring the ToyMaker. And the other things I liked was the return of Mel of course another companion from classic who as well. She’s was another companion from the 80s era of the show. I had a feeling Melanie was going to find it difficult watching this one because of the dolls coming to life. But of course we have our new 15th Doctor, which you probably saw in the Barbie movie. To be honest I’m a bit mixed on the whole Bi generation thing but it is what it is.
Me and John Logie Baird were born and from the same town in Scotland and my primary school (elementary) was even named after him. So I find it really cool to see him represented in a Doctor Who episode. 🏴❤️❤️
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I really do love the theory that the 14th Doctor now is on the path to becoming "The Curator" that we saw in the 50th anniversary, reusing his faces and living a peaceful life with the knowledge that the universe will be safe in the hands of the 15th Doctor onwards
I doubt that RTD would bother tying this new timelord event and opportunity to '....and then ends up in that specific thing you've already seen'.
Maybe......
If 14 goes on to become the curator, is 15 not the doctor we know anymore? Does 15 not need to retire? Does he have no trauma? He still has the memories of the past.
I am genuinely interested in knowing why people love this theory so much. My question is always, what about 15?
@@havewissmart9602because it’s a dumb theory already disproved by The Giggle - 14 heals from his trauma and turns into 15! simple as that!
@@Tao_Tology And I mean, it's Doctor Who, canon and continuity is important until it isn't, and things are often retconned later in some way anyway. It's kind of what i like about the show, it doesn't big itself down by trying to adhere to 60 years of canon. It is usually faithful to the 'current era' and otherwise has a "I guess we'll tie this in if we have to between now and never" approach.
@@thegentleassassinRTD said on the episode commentary that the biregeneration happened to every other Doctor before Tennant too
Ncuti Gatwa made an awesome intro as the 15th doctor. love his positive energy. cant wait to watch his run, and with Russel T Davies back too i feel it's gonna be great.
Are you guys gonna watch the trailers? There’s two! One for BBC and one for Disney+
I love that absolutely EVERYONE (myself included) thought Kate was gonna smack Ten/fourteen. I was thinking wait, why is she blaming the Doctor, he didn’t do anything. Nice fake out, Davies.
Remember, the Tardis doesn't always get the Doctor where he wants to go, but it always gets him where he *needs* to go...
One form of bi-generation that may have happened before or might still happen is the Valeyard (who has been mentioned a couple times in the new show but not seen). Introduced during the 6th Doctor's life, the Valeyard was a Time Lord whom the Master then claimed was a manifestation of the Doctor's evil who had somehow split off during a regeneration in the Doctor's future. Regarding the Master's number of regenerations, he actually used his last one up during the 4th Doctor's life, then became a parasite stealing bodies for a while until being resurrected with a new set of regenerations during the Last Great Time War, so the Master's exact numbering at this point is a mystery.