5:08 "stop dying you're making Mizz look bad for her viewers" I HOLLERED. Also, your videos are always so great and informative, your advice has gotten me through many new dungeons. Bless you.
One thing that worked well for me, especially if you pug this fight, is to get one person to assign the player positions before you start the fight. I've seen so many scenarios of people fighting over positions already taken and then killing each other with hailstorm. My usual setup is Tank + one melee DPS (or the OT if it's a dual tank group) to the north, Healers to the south and the other DPS to the east and west. And move clockwise if the circles are at the cardinal spots. Also, if you are unsure of where to stand to dodge the icicles, just stay in the middle. It's better to get hit by just one instead of two or three and killing yourself. Lastly, watch Shiva's animation to know what weapon she's pulling out instead of waiting for the icon to appear on her health bar. If she flies straight up, it's sword. If she twirls, it's staff. And if there's a bright flash and a loud crack, it's the bow. Sometimes, she'll pull the sword out just as icicle circles appears. When that happens, stay in the middle to soak up icebrand before moving to your safe spots. This is actually a really fun fight once you've got the tactics down and if you have a capable group, it's one of the easiest Primal to farm. Enjoy your shiny Shiva loot!
Pro tip for BLMs! You can help cut down on the healing needed to be done to you (and the movement you need to do) by popping Manaward for the first Icicle Impact (Phase 1); you'll likely not gain the vulnerability debuff. You can pop Manawall for Shiva's Phase 1 Sword Stance to not take damage from her Icebrand and not get knocked back/take damage for her Heavenly Strike (theoretically, the SCH should be on point with those Succor so you shouldn't get knockedback anyway, but hey) Also, if you're targeted (or not) by Avalanche, you can pop Manawall; you'll take 0 damage and not get knocked back. Manawall CD is just enough to always have it ready for the next time you get to Avalanche. Lastly, if you're out of range (IE you chose Outer B instead and Shiva's at where outer D would be) and Thin Ice is up, just click someone close to Shiva and use Aetherial Manipulation. You won't slide into oblivion if you use that and you'll be in range to pump out DPS :)
It must be pretty annoying for OP to see 1/3 of the comments containing Mr happy and comparisons, why can't people appreciate two different styles separately? Great guide by the way.
For any lvl 80 Unreal newcomers coming back to this guide, a couple additional tricks you can use. - blue overhead knockback can be ignored by using Surecast/Arms Length. But make sure to be out of Shiva's hit box as well bc the line may still hit you even if you're not next to the targeted person - Sword/Staff/Bow each have a different animation and Shiva also gets a buff with her weapon so you can quickly tell which is which. Sword animation = straight up and down. Staff animation = up and spin. Bow happens every other weapon I believe, and she'll go up and down with a thin line in her hands (the bow) - if you can't find the icicle aoe safe spot, eat 1 vuln - to prep for arrows in Phase 3, tanks can eat the 1 icicle impact to keep her north since arrows typically follows immediately after Mentor Roulette has prepared me for this moment :DDD
Didn't comment on your other videos, but I have watched them. Helped me get through all the extreme primals. Thanks for making the videos. Tend to watch the videos atleast about 5 times to get the hang of it. Your videos are usually better, and more pleasant to listen too lol
Thanks a lot for your guide. I really like how concise and organized they are. You made all of these primals very easy to fight. Keep up the great work!
as normal, (a superb breakdown) video in hd & great sound quality, totally informative of every step, i`m sure i`m just 1 in countless gamers who have advanced due to your guides, thank you so much & keep up the good work.
i worry more about the queue times being 1-2 hours to get into one fight with shiva xD im thinking of waiting next expansion so lvl70 and do shiva unsycned with a friend lol
I know how you feel. I feel like a noob but having a chill group it'll be okay. I wish I can help you guys. Shiva is fairly easy compared to a number of HW primals ;u;
ya, the HW primals have gotten really crazy. But the older primals have a quick learning curve. watch the video. fail with the first group and you'll be an expert in the second
i'm that player as well :( i want to do the extreme stuff, and i try to watch guides..but it's so much info >_< well laid out info but my brain wants to cry
Two things to add. Firstly, during phase 3 she will randomly choose between sword and staff when it is time to move out of icicles. You can tell which stance she takes to react appropriately by the way she rises. If she goes straight up, it is sword. If she twirls while rising, it is staff. Secondly, you can decide to ignore the titanesque icicles and continue dpsing while staying center. One stack of the vulnerability debuff will hardly do much and usually will fall off by time the same mechanic comes around.
I've been working hard on learning this fight and for me, the floor patterns are by far the worst part of this fight. I've been doing my best but man, it's really tough to see where those safe points are sometimes!
replying to a comment from 5 years ago is weird, but hey what the hell, I found that as well to be the most difficult part of the trial. With everything else going on it's hard to see them.
I generally like your visual guides. They are succinct and clear and points are explained well. A couple of suggestions to improve them though particularly with respect to this guide. I have had to pause the video quite a few times. Speaking a little more slowly to facilitate absorption of information would be helpful. You often did bullet points on the videos; this one doesn't have them and it seems to be a fight that might benefit from the addition. The explanation of the increased complexity (patterns) in the third stage wasn't clear to me, I'm not sure if it's just me or if others have also experienced confusion. I've been away for several months and am behind on content; a guide is always helpful and your guides are uniformly excellent. Thank you.
i sure as hell hope so. i lost interest before hw. now that i am getting bored i am going to try. ramuh is so easy even before hw i could do with a blindfold on.
To any other sprout tanks like me: All that matters is look at her animation to know which weapon she is pulling out. Face her to raid for first sword cone attack. Bait her bow attack then run behind her/DODGE/immunity. Just tank and spank staff. Game is hard without weak auras
Good stuff. Don't know if you mentioned the movement of a group together into a safe zone when it's Sword Stance in Phase 3, since you bait Icebrand while the Icicles are getting ready to drop. Really glad to see you mentioned how the icicles have two patterns in Phase 3, when I learned that it make knowing where to run much easier, and not reactive.
Your guides are so much better than MrHappy's. He talks and talks and talks and never gets to the point. I get the feeling he loves the sound of his own voice. You explain everything perfectly in say 7 minutes, and MrHappy takes 7 minutes just to introduce his videos. I'd rather wipe a hundred times before I sit through 20 minutes of him babbling on. Keep up the good work MTQ
Why dis other TH-camr's? If you don't like someones videos don't go bashing them on another TH-camr's channel. A lot of people like his guides, some people don't. Either way, why complain and compare its kinda douchie.
***** ...what does his sexual life has to do with an opinion about an TH-cam video, or anything for that matter? Actually, don't answer me. I don't want to know.
transparent91 Neither is better than the other. It's just a matter of personal preference and learning styles. Personally, I find it handy to watch MTQ if I expect to queue a while in duty finder and want some idea of what's ahead, and Mr Happy if I've got more time and want more detail.
I should mention for the Melee players here. That Spineshatter Dive, Dragonfire Dive and the monk shoulder rush can be used while thin ice is active. You will not trigger the slide and will be able to DPS should you be caught away!
For phase 3 Circle Boms some groups prefer to move Shiva to the North and run around accordingly to appearing circles, then wait for middle to explode and move back in :)
Did this blind in the group finder. Now that I've watched this guide, I understand why half the people who jumped in quit when they saw which one it was. Ah well, I had fun :D
I'm just now getting to extreme dungeons. Thank God for your walkthroughs. This one however, look hard af! LOL! I'll be screaming from the floor DRAGOON DOWN, DRAGOON DOWN! LOLOLOL!
Wow this one took forever to come out. Cant blame you though. Its so easy once u understand the circles...for a dps anyway. Much love to ya lol keep up the good work
Link Everybody keeps saying that but Carbine keeps releasing content at a rapid pace. It's a bit difficult to do that when you're hurting financially, so... yeah, not sure what you're going on about really.
TheCorstinSephari That's unfortunate. :/ It seems like the MMO consumer base is determined to force the market to engage in a race to the bottom. Hackers, botters and trolls rejoice, I guess...
me entering this for the first time "hey guy so first time doing this and doing extreme mode. So you know....when I die, please bury me in the land of my ancestors and have strippers dance on my grave TToTT thanks"
What about those 4 monsters she summons do we try to get rid of them before we take on her or we just focus on her or we focus on both of them? This is just so hard to understand and process this information
![[FFXIV] How Tanks Work But From a Healer's Perspective](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qCR8b6YfAtI/mqdefault.jpg)
Vintage MTQ about to carry my 2020 ass to victory
2021
Fax
@@reivl3453 Word
@@reivl3453 Ayy
2022!!!
coming here to prep for lvl 80 shiva in 5.3. thanks for the great guide
Same lol
Same.
same! :D
Aren't we all, its been awhile, we needed to refresh our memories.
Same. Nice little trip down memory lane. :)
5:08 "stop dying you're making Mizz look bad for her viewers" I HOLLERED.
Also, your videos are always so great and informative, your advice has gotten me through many new dungeons. Bless you.
Whats even better is that you can imagine Misato from Evangelion saying that lol
Yoshi-P wants MTQ guides to get more views: *introduces the UNREAL trials*
One thing that worked well for me, especially if you pug this fight, is to get one person to assign the player positions before you start the fight. I've seen so many scenarios of people fighting over positions already taken and then killing each other with hailstorm. My usual setup is Tank + one melee DPS (or the OT if it's a dual tank group) to the north, Healers to the south and the other DPS to the east and west. And move clockwise if the circles are at the cardinal spots.
Also, if you are unsure of where to stand to dodge the icicles, just stay in the middle. It's better to get hit by just one instead of two or three and killing yourself.
Lastly, watch Shiva's animation to know what weapon she's pulling out instead of waiting for the icon to appear on her health bar. If she flies straight up, it's sword. If she twirls, it's staff. And if there's a bright flash and a loud crack, it's the bow. Sometimes, she'll pull the sword out just as icicle circles appears. When that happens, stay in the middle to soak up icebrand before moving to your safe spots.
This is actually a really fun fight once you've got the tactics down and if you have a capable group, it's one of the easiest Primal to farm. Enjoy your shiny Shiva loot!
Pro tip for BLMs!
You can help cut down on the healing needed to be done to you (and the movement you need to do) by popping Manaward for the first Icicle Impact (Phase 1); you'll likely not gain the vulnerability debuff.
You can pop Manawall for Shiva's Phase 1 Sword Stance to not take damage from her Icebrand and not get knocked back/take damage for her Heavenly Strike (theoretically, the SCH should be on point with those Succor so you shouldn't get knockedback anyway, but hey)
Also, if you're targeted (or not) by Avalanche, you can pop Manawall; you'll take 0 damage and not get knocked back. Manawall CD is just enough to always have it ready for the next time you get to Avalanche.
Lastly, if you're out of range (IE you chose Outer B instead and Shiva's at where outer D would be) and Thin Ice is up, just click someone close to Shiva and use Aetherial Manipulation. You won't slide into oblivion if you use that and you'll be in range to pump out DPS :)
Remember when Manaward was a thing lol.
@@royox not only did I forget I made this post, it also didnt age that well oof
It must be pretty annoying for OP to see 1/3 of the comments containing Mr happy and comparisons, why can't people appreciate two different styles separately?
Great guide by the way.
For any lvl 80 Unreal newcomers coming back to this guide, a couple additional tricks you can use.
- blue overhead knockback can be ignored by using Surecast/Arms Length. But make sure to be out of Shiva's hit box as well bc the line may still hit you even if you're not next to the targeted person
- Sword/Staff/Bow each have a different animation and Shiva also gets a buff with her weapon so you can quickly tell which is which. Sword animation = straight up and down. Staff animation = up and spin. Bow happens every other weapon I believe, and she'll go up and down with a thin line in her hands (the bow)
- if you can't find the icicle aoe safe spot, eat 1 vuln
- to prep for arrows in Phase 3, tanks can eat the 1 icicle impact to keep her north since arrows typically follows immediately after
Mentor Roulette has prepared me for this moment :DDD
Didn't comment on your other videos, but I have watched them. Helped me get through all the extreme primals. Thanks for making the videos. Tend to watch the videos atleast about 5 times to get the hang of it. Your videos are usually better, and more pleasant to listen too lol
5 years later and I'm back! Timeless haha.
I love how you say "on her butt". Cracks me up every time.
+Ted Kent I see what you did there. X"D
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everytime? how many times you need to watch this guide 🤔
Lmao I saw d the same thing lmao epic lol
common MMO RPG speak
This guide became a lot more relevant
I've been getting back into the game, love that you and your guides are still around, and the way you emphasize the word butt. :P
Thanks a lot for your guide. I really like how concise and organized they are. You made all of these primals very easy to fight. Keep up the great work!
Finally, so glad yall were a able to get this out. Yall make the best guides on TH-cam. :)
as normal, (a superb breakdown) video in hd & great sound quality, totally informative of every step, i`m sure i`m just 1 in countless gamers who have advanced due to your guides, thank you so much & keep up the good work.
Thanks so much!! Hands down the best guide on this!
I was waiting for this! Thank you! :D
I want to do this to get the mount but I'm scared of disappointing my team and being "that guy" who is clueless and dies 24/7.
i worry more about the queue times being 1-2 hours to get into one fight with shiva xD im thinking of waiting next expansion so lvl70 and do shiva unsycned with a friend lol
I know how you feel. I feel like a noob but having a chill group it'll be okay. I wish I can help you guys. Shiva is fairly easy compared to a number of HW primals ;u;
ya, the HW primals have gotten really crazy. But the older primals have a quick learning curve. watch the video. fail with the first group and you'll be an expert in the second
^^^ I'M THAT GUY! :(
i'm that player as well :( i want to do the extreme stuff, and i try to watch guides..but it's so much info >_< well laid out info but my brain wants to cry
Thank you. Best guide (as always).
Little tank tip: in bow stance pop up AWARENESS as it negates the crit from bow attack :)
2021 here coming back in time to tell you this video is still epic af and still takin noobs to the heavens and beyond, I salute you o7
i'm a sprout going through ffxiv for the first time (ten years late), thank you very much for the guide !!!
Great video, thank you. Looking forward to more raid guides for 2.5, keep them coming! Greetings from PBC on Excalibur.
Just used your vid in 2020 for 5.2/5.3 and worked really well. Wish the rest of our group had seen it.
Love the puns hahaha, and the achievement for beating this fight is also called "Let it Go" hahaha
IKR
Once again I owe you.
Thanks to you, I've pulled off yet another victory. Think I finally have the courage to try to win T7 now. lol
lul I must have add I always speed the video up 1.5x speed
Two things to add. Firstly, during phase 3 she will randomly choose between sword and staff when it is time to move out of icicles. You can tell which stance she takes to react appropriately by the way she rises. If she goes straight up, it is sword. If she twirls while rising, it is staff. Secondly, you can decide to ignore the titanesque icicles and continue dpsing while staying center. One stack of the vulnerability debuff will hardly do much and usually will fall off by time the same mechanic comes around.
I've been working hard on learning this fight and for me, the floor patterns are by far the worst part of this fight. I've been doing my best but man, it's really tough to see where those safe points are sometimes!
That and thin ice fucks me up.
replying to a comment from 5 years ago is weird, but hey what the hell, I found that as well to be the most difficult part of the trial. With everything else going on it's hard to see them.
I love your videos. They have been very helpful especially the fact they deal with the entire raid. I tank and these videos have been great.
Thank you so much for this even in 2022. Whole BLU PF just cleared this for Glass Dance
I generally like your visual guides. They are succinct and clear and points are explained well.
A couple of suggestions to improve them though particularly with respect to this guide. I have had to pause the video quite a few times. Speaking a little more slowly to facilitate absorption of information would be helpful.
You often did bullet points on the videos; this one doesn't have them and it seems to be a fight that might benefit from the addition.
The explanation of the increased complexity (patterns) in the third stage wasn't clear to me, I'm not sure if it's just me or if others have also experienced confusion.
I've been away for several months and am behind on content; a guide is always helpful and your guides are uniformly excellent. Thank you.
thank you so much for your guides! ♥
FORGIVING!!?!! as a newbie this was brutal lol, but thank you for the guide though!
Ramuh Extreme Rekt me as a Tank. Gonna try Shiva Extreme soon.
Thank you very much for this guide, i'm a new player and this helped me understand every mechanic, we beat it on our 7th try! Thanks for the help!
Just fought her for the first time for like an hour and we kept gettin her down to like 5% to 3% hp, was soul crushing to see the timer run out.
there's like 100 different moves best way to process all this information is to wipe.
Excellent guide, Mizz!
People say she's a lot easier than Ramuh, but it just looks so much more complicated. x_x
Sharxy It is easier then Ramuh. Once you get to learn where to be and preemptively move it gets easier.
i sure as hell hope so. i lost interest before hw. now that i am getting bored i am going to try. ramuh is so easy even before hw i could do with a blindfold on.
+Lil Scrappy Sarah shiva hits very hard if you fuck up some mechanics
To be honest, I found Ramuh much more chill than Shiva. Couldn't beat her synced with any group. :/
All the important info was in this video. Managed to beat her for the first time with only 1 wipe!
As a Sprout I can say this fight is tough af
This guide was released 6 years ago. Meanwhile, in party finder yesterday- Tank who voluntarily queued into instance: “Wait, what are adds?”
Welcome back!, been a long time :P
This is like the safety instructional video before you get on a roller coaster
Best Guide Ever!!! You saved me!!! Thank you!
To any other sprout tanks like me: All that matters is look at her animation to know which weapon she is pulling out. Face her to raid for first sword cone attack. Bait her bow attack then run behind her/DODGE/immunity. Just tank and spank staff. Game is hard without weak auras
Anyone else come back here for no other reason than to just wonder how the WoL is gonna "remember" this fight in ShB??
This looks ridiculously challenging!
Good stuff. Don't know if you mentioned the movement of a group together into a safe zone when it's Sword Stance in Phase 3, since you bait Icebrand while the Icicles are getting ready to drop.
Really glad to see you mentioned how the icicles have two patterns in Phase 3, when I learned that it make knowing where to run much easier, and not reactive.
i like it when you say "butt" xD
dps brain go "stack on the butt something something butt something something always stack butt" =D
It will be a dark day indeed when you move on from this game, Mizz. Thank you so much for your concise, succinct, and painfully punny videos.
Finally!!!!.. Been waiting for this. Thank you!
Your guides are so much better than MrHappy's. He talks and talks and talks and never gets to the point. I get the feeling he loves the sound of his own voice. You explain everything perfectly in say 7 minutes, and MrHappy takes 7 minutes just to introduce his videos. I'd rather wipe a hundred times before I sit through 20 minutes of him babbling on.
Keep up the good work MTQ
Why dis other TH-camr's? If you don't like someones videos don't go bashing them on another TH-camr's channel. A lot of people like his guides, some people don't. Either way, why complain and compare its kinda douchie.
I give credit where credit is due. And without a comparison it would just be unbased praise. Like the kind you get from your mommy
***** secret mr happy account is raging again
***** ...what does his sexual life has to do with an opinion about an TH-cam video, or anything for that matter?
Actually, don't answer me. I don't want to know.
transparent91 Neither is better than the other. It's just a matter of personal preference and learning styles. Personally, I find it handy to watch MTQ if I expect to queue a while in duty finder and want some idea of what's ahead, and Mr Happy if I've got more time and want more detail.
I LOVE YOUR DAMN VOICE! Very easy to listen to and informative.This is awesome, thanks Mizzteq
***** Wow, didn't know honest compliments were viewed as hitting on someone.......
Minahirion Ignore him and do not doubt yourself. You're a good person.
***** hahahaha so fierce! XD
***** So its forbidden for girls to say they like the voice of youtubers too? -.-
***** now that's just sexist
I should mention for the Melee players here. That Spineshatter Dive, Dragonfire Dive and the monk shoulder rush can be used while thin ice is active. You will not trigger the slide and will be able to DPS should you be caught away!
Same with Shukuchi on Ninja.
For phase 3 Circle Boms some groups prefer to move Shiva to the North and run around accordingly to appearing circles, then wait for middle to explode and move back in :)
Thank you very much for the tips
The most important thing to keep in mind is try. It it lag the hell out from the icicle effects flying all over the place.
I need to refresh my memory.
D: I wanted moar cool puns! Great, concise guide as always to welcome the New Year! :D
Thanks, it helped me pass it today as a tank
Came for the great guides, stayed for the great puns
finally getting around to doing this. letssss GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I'm here 5 years later because they just annouce Shiva Unreal.
As someone who only joined the game after HW's launch, I missed it. So happy they are adjusting this for Unreal trial next patch.
Did this blind in the group finder. Now that I've watched this guide, I understand why half the people who jumped in quit when they saw which one it was. Ah well, I had fun :D
I'm just now getting to extreme dungeons. Thank God for your walkthroughs. This one however, look hard af! LOL! I'll be screaming from the floor DRAGOON DOWN, DRAGOON DOWN! LOLOLOL!
Wow this one took forever to come out. Cant blame you though. Its so easy once u understand the circles...for a dps anyway.
Much love to ya lol keep up the good work
nice guide very useful
Had to Google what the heck a cardinal direction was to understand this guide.
2020 and still people wiping this 😎
Thank you
Your my favorite tutorial voice actress
OMG YAY...I've been waiting for this....and your puns....mostly the puns.
Excessive reference to Shiva's butt.. :)
Great walkthrough thanks!
You made it! YAY!
Thanks for the guide. And how could you not use the 2nd part of her battle theme? D:
Just tried this for a farm for the first time tonight. Utterly wrecked her lol.
*me as a melee DPS*-- so stare at ass entire fight. got it
unreal time baby
who's all here for a refresh for the unreal?
MTQcapture: The enrage is very hard to get so dont worry about it
Me now in Shiva Unreal: hahaha...
Came for the puns.
Was not disappointed.
Where you been miz! I missed your videos :) No more coil?
Good Job with the pun in the beginning Lol
Hey boricuagirl in what server u on is nice meeting a boricua playing final fantasy 😁
😁 hear to learn the unreal!
Thanks
"positioning on her butt" made me lol
So many tanks @.@
who's here for a refresher for Unreal?
Super sad you haven't been doing Wildstar videos. :(
Corinn Heathers Wildstar is shit. It'll be F2P real soon.
Their "In-game time money" thing is a hint.
Link Everybody keeps saying that but Carbine keeps releasing content at a rapid pace. It's a bit difficult to do that when you're hurting financially, so... yeah, not sure what you're going on about really.
Corinn Heathers k
Corinn Heathers check the news. Dev leaked its going f2p/b2p, getting rid of subs and their dev team is very shorthanded now.
TheCorstinSephari That's unfortunate. :/ It seems like the MMO consumer base is determined to force the market to engage in a race to the bottom. Hackers, botters and trolls rejoice, I guess...
it's not as hard as it seems! But healers have a lot to do xD
I think this was the only time I ever did this fight...
my random party had their asses wiped w this😭🤚
The year is 2020, and we still don't know these strats!
Love your voice~
Ohh the puns!
me entering this for the first time "hey guy so first time doing this and doing extreme mode. So you know....when I die, please bury me in the land of my ancestors and have strippers dance on my grave TToTT thanks"
MTQcapture have you found an easier way to burn this fight yet? I need to clear it & wasn't sure if it has gotten easier or not.
What about those 4 monsters she summons do we try to get rid of them before we take on her or we just focus on her or we focus on both of them? This is just so hard to understand and process this information