PSA: IF YOU HATE WHAT I SAID ABOUT ENCOUNTERS IN SPACE, I MADE A SECOND VIDEO DEDICATED TO JUST THAT ONE GAME. th-cam.com/video/DaJfyyM-NR4/w-d-xo.html (I should have done this months ago lmao.)
Man you're so underappreciated. Your videos strike such a good balance between being informative about the games without getting into unnecessary details and they're always really entertaining. Def gonna check a few of these games out, keep it up!
The whole "combat on rails" vibe of encounters in space is only when doing certain story missions because its taking you on a plot journey. Other modes have more open movement and it flows and feels great when you get past the awkwardness of the control scheme.
I'm not gonna lie to you, if a game is awkward to play at first, it's highly unlikely I'll keep going, especially if it's first impressions. Also, for entertainment purposes, I can't take too long playing a game if I'm covering multiples like this.
Yeah the one mission in the custom pilot mode where you use a Saberfish during the battle of Loum really shows off how good that control scheme can be once you get used to it.
As someone who owned a Japanese playstation 2, I am kinda disappointed you didn't talk about Rengou vs Zaft II Plus. Admittedly, I am not sure if you would have much to say since it is just the next step forward for the vs series, but I seriously loved that game.
Bro I spend alot of my time with my cousin playing Rengou vs Zaft II Plus. And also Rengou vs Zaft PSP ver too. The story mode is great and there's a lot of mobile suit Cosmic Era to choose when playing free play mode. Rengou vs Zaft is my first gundam game I spend a lot and then I started playing Extreme Vs Full Boost instead.
wake up babe, new kinzie vid. I'm glad someone else enjoyed federation vs zeon, that was second gundam game right after jarburo. Speaking of, looking back at it now i'm amazed how bad that game controlled. sure it was during the time when twinstick movenment was still new to games but still.. the game was weirdly coded and the controls only compounded that. it's also super weird how encounters in space and never ending tomorrow someone control WORSE than that... man early 2000s game dev is a helluva drug. also, i will continue to hound you for that crossfire vid until the heat death of the universe. :)
I actually enjoyed the fast pacing of Encounters in Space. Felt like I was really zipping around in a mobile suit. I felt like a Newtype.... GSNET on the other hand, I hated when it changed melee mode and it lost the weight feel from EIS. I wanted freedom Gundam but in EIS.
Got all of the “good” games when I was younger. The only one I regret not getting was battle assault but just don’t care for its look compared to the ps1 games. Had no idea the seed game and MS saga were even a thing until recently.
fed vs zeon and encounters in space are my favourites. As a kid I also liked never ending tomorrow but now as an adult I can see how bad the gameplay really was with frustrating game mechanics substituted in place of stronger opponents.
Just FYI after beating the main story in J2J you get tactics battle which is basically a Gundam Vs game with a few different scenarios, it's the real game tbh, you can unlock a bunch of cool suits like the Kampfer, Alex, Blue Destiny units, Gundam Ground Type, Chars versions of all his suits, it's sick.
Dude I can't wait till you blow up stumbled on your channel by chance and now you're channel is the first thing I check on my subscribe list for videos.
If you ever get the chance I strongly recommend Lost War Chronicles. It takes the basic gameplay style of Journey to Jaburo and perfects it. Everything is more responsive, the camera doesn’t lose track of the enemy every five seconds, it gets rid of the limited ammo system, you can quick switch between targets, and there’s so many other quality of life features it adds. I played JtJ and LWC back to back and it’s insane to me that we never got LWC in the west, because it is literally just JtJ but actually good.
Hope you touch Battle Assault 3 feat Gundam SEED, Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2, and Gundam Seed Destiny: Rengou vs. Z.A.F.T. II, those are the games I played the most on PS2
Journey to Jaburo was great. All the extra missions and MS after beating story mode was where it really shined. But yeah the controls are clunky but to be fair we didn't know they were clunky at the time. FvZ is still the greatest Gundam game ever and a top 5 PS2 all time game for me.
What? Gundam vs zeta is better my dude. You get the whole cast of gundam and zeta gundam. Plus 5 campaigns zeon,federation,itians,aeug and whatever the last one was called. Lol
Love the video man there is also a gundam game called gundam seed zaft vs rengou which play like the vs game but with gundam seed and I hope you also will cover a game I loved called another century's episode 3
Zeonic Front has my favorite single player of the games you reviewed, and I played them all other then the SEED game. I love Seed's setting, ships, and some of its mobile suits but I hate the protagonist . But Federation vs Zeon is my favorite overall because it is probably the PS2 game I spent the most time playing multiplayer, and I prefer its campaign structure to that used in Gundam vs Zeta Gundam.
I know reviews are subjective and it seems like you lean more towards funny but man you did NOT give Encounters in Space a fair shake, that game has so much content, and if you get good at it and get higher scores, you unlock branching paths that give you different cutscenes and secret bosses.
As much as I understand you (and others that have told me the same thing) none of that addresses the fact that I didn't like how the game played from the beginning, so I moved on. Could I have been nicer about it? Sure, but at this point, everyone already knows what's good about it past the point I made it, so the only thing left is my opinion, which is what's in the video. I'm sure there's plenty of people on the site that have said "Encounters good" but that isn't my impression.
Technically there is more Gundam games and the only one I own but I'll save which one next time. I saw Never Ending Tomorrow on a self in a store when I was living in Canada, debated about getting it but it was 40 dollars. I laughed, left and bought Pokemon Heartgold. Overall... good thing I never bought it!
@@KinzieK your humor hits my spot, i honestly lost it when you put in the clip from cold ones, I'd love to check some of these games out you made it look really interesting though i recently got maxiboost on qnd i know nothing about gundam in all honesty
I played Journey to Jaburo when all I knew was Wing over 10 years ago and think it'sa miracle I convinced myself to try other Gundam content. I might have to get Zeonic Front as I have been longing for an original story instead of an arcade fighter or series re-enactment for awhile. Very entertaining vid as always! Sieg Zeon!
Technically you missed Gundam Battle Assault 3 "Featuring" Gundam Seed and MS Saga: A New Dawn. I can not think of any other Gundam PS2 games that were translated to English though. Japan got a lot more though. Including more Vs games including some Gundam Seed vs Game. MS Saga is kind of a hidden Gundam game has Gundam isn't even included on the title. MS as in Mobile Suit Saga. Basically if you've ever played a Metal Max or Metal Saga game, MS Saga is basically a Gundam version of those. Personally my absolute favorite Gundam games are in order: Mobile Suit Gundam Battlefield Record U.C. 0081 (PS3 Japanese Exclusive, had to Import it basically a better Gundam Crossfire which dumbs down realism for more speed/action and loved it) Mobile Suit Gundam Side Story Rise from Ashes (Dreamcast, closest thing to a proper Gundam Simulator that has ever existed, and has an believable story) Mobile Suit Gundam Federation vs Zeon (PS2 because of course everyone loves it) Mobile Suit Gundam Zeonic Front (PS2 basically Rainbow 6 Gundam, and I mean OG Rainbow Six before they became shooters) Mobile Suit Gundam Gundam vs Zeta Gundam. (Federation vs Zeon 2.0, and generally better, but lacks some of the charm so I didn't like it as much)
I really do appreciate you watching, but I made both a Ms Saga video and a video on Battle Assault 3. Be sure to take a look! ❤️ And I'm glad GvZG is one of your favorites.
@@KinzieK You did? I will have to check them out I guess. Everyone talks about Federation vs Zeon, but Gundam vs Zeta Gundam is kind of not often talked about. I guess because it's the sibling of the "original" vs game but not the first? The middle child you can say. I viewed Gundam vs Zeta Gundam like a huge expansion of the first game, all the suits from the first game were present as well as many of the maps, in addition to the massive amount of Zeta Gundam and even some ZZ content in the game. Hence why I said it's arguably better than the original but as I said, it doesn't have the same charm, but if you're just in it for the fighting/battles, not the music, presentation, etc it's definitely a better game than the original. Tragically for good or bad alot of Gundam games never made it outside of Japan. Lost War Chronicles was made by the same people who made Journey to Jaburo. So you can likely say the negative reception to that game killed any chance of it releasing in NA. Lost War Chronicles was well received in Japan. Lost War Chronicles kind of can be summed up as being what Journey to Jaburo should of been. You can tell they took that game's foundation and actually made a better game out of it. Has a very large library of mechs to use as well. You can tell they originally planned on the game getting an NA release as nearly every aspect of the game but voiced dialogue is in English. Interesting part about Journey to Jaburo and Lost War Chronicles, I think they're the only Gundam games that you can see human beings on the ground in some missions. At least to my knowledge. Excluding Gundam Battle Operations 1 and 2 of course as the players are people. Then again, Universal Century Gundam Online as well, but that is a whole other can of warms right there. What I find weird is the Verses games got generally positive reviews, and feed back from players as well, yet none of the Seed verses games made it to NA yet..... YET.. we got Never Ending Tomorrow and Battle Assault 3, both I found terrible. Gundam Seed Vs Zaft II Plus actually looked like fun. I bet the licensing issue with all the music from Seed was a big factor. If I recall and I maybe wrong Never Ending Tomorrow had much of it's OST cut in the NA version. So I can imagine how much of the music from Seed Destiny would of been cut from that game. Which would of really hurt it personally because the pop music from Seed/Destiny was stellar.
I think I own every PS2 Gundam game except Seed and Journey to Jaburo was the first PS2 game I ever got and a gift from my brother so it means a lot to me... but I just want to say it was a blast back then and Zeonic Front is still a damn good game.
F.Vs.Z. is the best Gundam game of all time. The movement is realistic, they capture the essence of the 0079 era perfectly, and the gameplay is actually strategic and fun. I would absolutely love a remaster
Journey to Jaburo was one of my first PS2 games. And honestly it was great. Going through the story is sorta meh, but the extra missions was pretty awesome. It is where I learned how powerful the GM Sniper II was.
4:17 I personally like Andrews Gaia in GSD rengou vs Zaft II. Its unlockable so its wacky in how it fights and Both gaias can't compare from maxi boost
It's cool to see fresh eyes on this old lineup after so long. Feels like no one gives these the time of day anymore. That said, _I'mma call out your bs_ (not really): Feddy vs. Zeon: "Solid" is basically how I'd describe it, yeah. Older me wouldn't get much out of it other than a nostalgia trip, but younger me? I was dreaming up battle scenarios against AI in my head *all the damn time.* I got my money's worth out of it and then some, fueled by childhood imagination. Also, yes, that intro is 😩👌. Zeonic Front: Huh, surprised you didn't like this one. It's basically Gundam's take on old Rainbow Six, which is understandably a niche form of real-time strategy that not everyone is gonna click with. I personally loved it since, despite it slower nature, it fits the game's overall design. The character dialogue tucked away in the briefing screens is also real juicy and helped me like Zeon lore that much more. (Everyone knows Mission 06 is the worst gameplay level ever, though, even thought it makes sense lore-wise) Gundam vs. Zeta: I unfortunately missed this one. Looking back on it, though, I feel like it'd give me a similar experience to Feddy vs. Zeon, only way better. I may go back to fill in that gap someday, but idk, FvZ sated that itch for a lifetime. Encounters in Space: Wait, really, you don't like this?? R1/R2 for vertical control is jank, I'll give you that, but I consider this one of their best entries because of how fast, intense, and free-flowing it is (when not on-rails, anyway). This and Rez are my main reasons why I enjoy rail shooters, so this is surprising. Wish you went into more why it rubbed you the wrong way. Journey to Jaburo: Yeah, this just sucks. Never Ending Tomorrow: Never heard of this one. I'm glad I didn't. Even as someone who loves Encounters, this looks like some bastardized mockery of it. This comment would be a dissertation if I tried explaining what I saw wrong with it from your clips. You missed Battle Assault 3, btw. It's a jank and memey attempt at a 3D fighter, but the audiovisuals and soundtrack give it IMMACULATE vibes; I still listen to the OST to this day. Way too much time spent in that game, man. MS Saga is another one, but that deserves its own video. There's... a lot to unpack, both good and bad. Anyway, looking forward to Crossfire! I never played it, but it seems I wasn't missing much, lmfao.
Okaaaaaay I appreciate your thorough examination of my video! Thing about Encounters is that I genuinely just hated how it controlled. I really gave it an honest shot going through the tutorial but I could just never get used to it, so really, that IS how deep it really gets with me lol. Also, i did give MS Saga it's own video. I linked it as it's own video at the end. PS: I thought Zeonic Front was okay, just not personally interesting enough to make its segment as long as Fed vs Zeon.
@@KinzieK Whoops, must've missed that video. Either that or it's been so long that I forgot. lol Completely fair, tho. If the fundamentals of how a game works don't work for someone, ya can't expect them to keep playing. Also fair. If you haven't, though, I def recommend looking up all the briefing conversations in Zeonic. It's solid writing and the dubbing is surprisingly genuine.
I forgot about that Zeta Gundam game. I never came across it in stores and never got to play it, but I'm glad to hear it was better than Encounters in Space. Journey to Jaburo becomes more enjoyable after beating the game, once you get a feel for all the quirks of the clunkliness. I used to play it so much going for S+ in every suit and just leisure. It's too bad we never got Lost War Chronicles. Zeonic Front should be my favorite, but the Dom changes it from challenging to winning before you know it, reducing the replay value when the matches don't have that back-and-forth like Jaburo battles have. Wish I had Federation vs Zeon, it was fun for the few times I played it.
Hey KinZeik would you ever consider doing a video on building a gunpla kit? I started about 2 years ago thanks to the pandemic and it's so much fun, it makes me sadder I never played any of these Gundam games when I was a kid, I only knew about the anime on Toonami
I've been considering making a gunpla video since my first gundam video, but I lost my kit, and I really never invested in another since. Life's funny like that haha
I actually got good at Journey to Jaburo and beat it when I was in middle school. It's back when controls in game aren't always smooth. (tank control in Resident Evil)
This video was great! I honestly would like to see you do a video covering the *Japan-exclusive* ps2 Gundam games as well, if you were ever interested.
I recall there was a Gundam RPG on PS2 which was surprisingly well made. It was the first game that I'm aware of that you can mix body parts and weapons from tons of units making for a real deep game, though the RPG engine is ultimately flawed.
Played all of these games except for Zeonic Front and Journey to Jaburo. Encounters in Space I thought was a pretty awesome game when you get used to the controls. Machines move pretty fast and the multi lock-on was pretty neat. It's also story-wise one of the more expansive action games since it has episodes dedicated to multiple pilots across MSV, Stardust Memory and even Blue Destiny. Fun fact though, this gameplay style is actually something they already did on the PS1 with Char's Counterattack. But if you've heard/played a game called Omega Boost, think of it like that Something to point out regarding the first two Gundam VS games. The first one has Deluxe in it because it's an updated port of the original arcade version. It added zero gravity levels as well as the additional two units for the Federation side, the Gundam Ground Type and the GM Ground Type. Also, the song that plays in that intro stage is Ai no Senshi, it's one of the theme songs from the Gundam movie trilogy. Gundam VS Zeta Gundam's big change was introduced alongside the gimmick of the mobile suits of that series; alt modes. Nearly all of the units in the game can transform into a high-speed flight mode that gives them a major advantage over the other suits that can't. Like FVZ, GVZ added new content to the PS2 version, namely the unlockable ZZ mode which nets you the titular ZZ Gundam, and Qubeley Mk II alongside their pilots and the theme song Anime ja Nai. Its story mode is also a point of interest because aside from following the source material, it also lets you do what-if scenarios where you get different paths and endings based on who died or lived at that point, like what if Four survived,or if Amuro joined the Titans. Never Ending Tomorrow was....yeah, a bit rough. I feel like it should have been a way flashier version of Encounters in Space, but for whatever reason, they made the melee combat system such a slog where it plays more like a rock-paper-scissors RPG as opposed to a hack-n-slash kind of thing. This is also the only time any of the Astray characters get an English dub
Im gonna try making a vidoe to signal boost your videos. youtube been showing me a bunch of gundam stuff, and i randomly clicked on this... hilarious. making a note to try and make a short about this video
Unfortunately, X Play which is a game review show from back then and recently came back, they hated Anime and their games. They admitted that Gundam, Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Anime in general sucks because in their eyes the stories made no sense. They literally called fans idiots for liking Anime and their games.
Vs. series was and is the pinnacle in entirety of Gundam games because the mechanics stayed the same and that's one solid balancing and was geared towards, well, players versus. PSP's Battle series was a mixed bag, but those eventually turned to Breaker in a way, so they paved their proper way over the years. All other, unique to these formulas, titles were overall meh if not jank right up until Battle Operation series.
Okay, can I be real? I didn’t know much of the lore of OG gundam before Federation vs Zeon and I feel offended many decades later because it feels like Zeon is the story of the United States but they shunted the war crimes up in the story.
What annoys me is that the PS5 has been out for 4 years and we only have 4 Gundam games released for it, 1 of them is permanently dead, 2 of them are multi platform. There was over 10 Gundam games released for the PS2 in just the first 4 years alone, with only a few making a appearance on the GameCube. I hate modern gaming with a passion
You missed Battle Assault 3 featuring Gundam SEED. Also, I liked Encounters in Space so I tolerated Neverending Tomorrow but, another frustrating fact about it: the Japanese version actually uses music from the anime but they didn't want to pay to license it for the U.S. release so instead it's filled with a bunch of generic, non-anime music from older Gundam games. Also, even though it features ground based level, no one has a walk/run animation except Strike, and only on the first mission of the story mode.
I'd love to see a more polished Zeonic Front style game or even a Gundam rts along the lines of Command & Conquer or Halo Wars someday. But yeah fuck Journey to Jaburo. You think level 2 is a bitch? HOO BOI the last level is genuine bullshit. I could go on a long ass rant on how much this level makes me wanna feed my arms to a woodchipper ...but I wont.
MS saga new dawn would like a mention otherwise great video, gundam vs zeta gundam is my favorite with it's gameplay (except team ai being bad) and what if scenarios
Now if only they’d make a version of GBO2 that’s actually fun to play… or at least Anime accurate , not “official” numbers made by high school nerds in the early 80’s who thought Zaku’s were “made of STEEL” accurate
I've thought about it, and I don't think I'll make a video about it. I think my previous SRW video kinda already says what I would have said about it in a way
Yes and no. I have covered Super Robot Wars T (whether that counts is up to you), Gihren's Greed in the gundam reborn video, and rengou vs zaft in the crossfire video. 👌🏽
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PSA: IF YOU HATE WHAT I SAID ABOUT ENCOUNTERS IN SPACE, I MADE A SECOND VIDEO DEDICATED TO JUST THAT ONE GAME. th-cam.com/video/DaJfyyM-NR4/w-d-xo.html (I should have done this months ago lmao.)
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The Gundam vs Zeta Gundam critic score proves that game journalists were always bad at their job.
Indeed.
Man you're so underappreciated. Your videos strike such a good balance between being informative about the games without getting into unnecessary details and they're always really entertaining. Def gonna check a few of these games out, keep it up!
Omg you literally have no idea how much I appreciate comments like these. It's worth it every time. Keep being cute! ❤️
The whole "combat on rails" vibe of encounters in space is only when doing certain story missions because its taking you on a plot journey.
Other modes have more open movement and it flows and feels great when you get past the awkwardness of the control scheme.
I'm not gonna lie to you, if a game is awkward to play at first, it's highly unlikely I'll keep going, especially if it's first impressions.
Also, for entertainment purposes, I can't take too long playing a game if I'm covering multiples like this.
@@KinzieK understandable.
Yeah the one mission in the custom pilot mode where you use a Saberfish during the battle of Loum really shows off how good that control scheme can be once you get used to it.
Zeonic Front is best described as Rainbow Six with mobile suits.
Love it.
Never thought of it that way, but I see it now when I think about it
I 100% that game. Only game I ever did absolutely everything then kept playing.
As someone who owned a Japanese playstation 2, I am kinda disappointed you didn't talk about Rengou vs Zaft II Plus. Admittedly, I am not sure if you would have much to say since it is just the next step forward for the vs series, but I seriously loved that game.
Someone else brought it up. Sounds like it is something I should at least look into
Bro I spend alot of my time with my cousin playing Rengou vs Zaft II Plus. And also Rengou vs Zaft PSP ver too. The story mode is great and there's a lot of mobile suit Cosmic Era to choose when playing free play mode. Rengou vs Zaft is my first gundam game I spend a lot and then I started playing Extreme Vs Full Boost instead.
You did Zeon a great service by quitting that Granddaddy mission. Bless you.
Also, I kind of want to replay Unicorn now.😁
wake up babe, new kinzie vid.
I'm glad someone else enjoyed federation vs zeon, that was second gundam game right after jarburo. Speaking of, looking back at it now i'm amazed how bad that game controlled. sure it was during the time when twinstick movenment was still new to games but still.. the game was weirdly coded and the controls only compounded that. it's also super weird how encounters in space and never ending tomorrow someone control WORSE than that... man early 2000s game dev is a helluva drug.
also, i will continue to hound you for that crossfire vid until the heat death of the universe.
:)
Never change, fox boy. ❤️
I'm adding Unicorn to the list. Fuck it.😉
Capcom worked on a Gundam game?! I feel so cheated I never knew this
I actually enjoyed the fast pacing of Encounters in Space. Felt like I was really zipping around in a mobile suit. I felt like a Newtype.... GSNET on the other hand, I hated when it changed melee mode and it lost the weight feel from EIS. I wanted freedom Gundam but in EIS.
Got all of the “good” games when I was younger. The only one I regret not getting was battle assault but just don’t care for its look compared to the ps1 games.
Had no idea the seed game and MS saga were even a thing until recently.
fed vs zeon and encounters in space are my favourites. As a kid I also liked never ending tomorrow but now as an adult I can see how bad the gameplay really was with frustrating game mechanics substituted in place of stronger opponents.
Just FYI after beating the main story in J2J you get tactics battle which is basically a Gundam Vs game with a few different scenarios, it's the real game tbh, you can unlock a bunch of cool suits like the Kampfer, Alex, Blue Destiny units, Gundam Ground Type, Chars versions of all his suits, it's sick.
Dude I can't wait till you blow up stumbled on your channel by chance and now you're channel is the first thing I check on my subscribe list for videos.
Aww thank you so much! Not every video will take months I swear lol. Glad to have you here!
4:43 😂 I can feel the quotation marks when you said "Atrocities" in my very soul!
If you ever get the chance I strongly recommend Lost War Chronicles. It takes the basic gameplay style of Journey to Jaburo and perfects it. Everything is more responsive, the camera doesn’t lose track of the enemy every five seconds, it gets rid of the limited ammo system, you can quick switch between targets, and there’s so many other quality of life features it adds. I played JtJ and LWC back to back and it’s insane to me that we never got LWC in the west, because it is literally just JtJ but actually good.
Hope you touch Battle Assault 3 feat Gundam SEED, Dynasty Warriors: Gundam 2, and Gundam Seed Destiny: Rengou vs. Z.A.F.T. II, those are the games I played the most on PS2
Assault 3 has its own video, DWG trilogy has its own video, rengou vs zaft on psp is in the crossfire video 👌🏽
@@KinzieK great, you make really nice videos. I never played fed vs zeon, you really sold it to me, gonna try find a copy
Journey to Jaburo was great. All the extra missions and MS after beating story mode was where it really shined. But yeah the controls are clunky but to be fair we didn't know they were clunky at the time. FvZ is still the greatest Gundam game ever and a top 5 PS2 all time game for me.
What? Gundam vs zeta is better my dude. You get the whole cast of gundam and zeta gundam. Plus 5 campaigns zeon,federation,itians,aeug and whatever the last one was called. Lol
Love the video man there is also a gundam game called gundam seed zaft vs rengou which play like the vs game but with gundam seed and I hope you also will cover a game I loved called another century's episode 3
I've heard of both. Anything is possible.
Zeonic Front has my favorite single player of the games you reviewed, and I played them all other then the SEED game. I love Seed's setting, ships, and some of its mobile suits but I hate the protagonist . But Federation vs Zeon is my favorite overall because it is probably the PS2 game I spent the most time playing multiplayer, and I prefer its campaign structure to that used in Gundam vs Zeta Gundam.
I know reviews are subjective and it seems like you lean more towards funny but man you did NOT give Encounters in Space a fair shake, that game has so much content, and if you get good at it and get higher scores, you unlock branching paths that give you different cutscenes and secret bosses.
As much as I understand you (and others that have told me the same thing) none of that addresses the fact that I didn't like how the game played from the beginning, so I moved on. Could I have been nicer about it? Sure, but at this point, everyone already knows what's good about it past the point I made it, so the only thing left is my opinion, which is what's in the video. I'm sure there's plenty of people on the site that have said "Encounters good" but that isn't my impression.
>Zeon
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Technically there is more Gundam games and the only one I own but I'll save which one next time.
I saw Never Ending Tomorrow on a self in a store when I was living in Canada, debated about getting it but it was 40 dollars. I laughed, left and bought Pokemon Heartgold. Overall... good thing I never bought it!
If I tried hunting down the non localized or obscure ones, this video would have taken till next year. I tried to cover the more well known ones lmao
@@KinzieK Ah well that's fine too! Don't worry!
Oooh a new video, it's a good time to be a subscriber
For sure dude. Happy to have you here as a cutie.
@@KinzieK that's a cute name for your subs, though it doesn't fit me >~>
YES IT DOES AS LONG AS YOU ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY, YOU ARE A CUTIE! IT AIN'T ABOUT LOOKS IT'S ABOUT WHO YOU ARE!
@@KinzieK your humor hits my spot, i honestly lost it when you put in the clip from cold ones, I'd love to check some of these games out you made it look really interesting though i recently got maxiboost on qnd i know nothing about gundam in all honesty
Stick around long enough, you'll learn something.
I played Journey to Jaburo when all I knew was Wing over 10 years ago and think it'sa miracle I convinced myself to try other Gundam content.
I might have to get Zeonic Front as I have been longing for an original story instead of an arcade fighter or series re-enactment for awhile.
Very entertaining vid as always!
Sieg Zeon!
Zeonic Front plays like the oldschool Rainbow Six games, basically tactical mobile suits: the game
It's pretty fun to me
Sieg Zeon
Ahh, even on emulator, these games are bleeding 2000's nostalgia in the graphics and textures.
sieg zeon!
you are unexpectedly funny af and potentially HYPERGAY and i'm here for it. subbed
Idk why, but ENA pfps are always some of the sweetest people on the internet lol. Please enjoy your stay here, you'll love it
Gundam crossdimension when.....WHEN?!
OMG A NEW VIDEO FROM OUR GOD!!!!
We really didn't know we were living in the golden age.
1:41 "Ooo that shit hit different" Goddamn it did lol like the intro to a theatrical movie or some shit. Hands down my favorite gundam game
Technically you missed Gundam Battle Assault 3 "Featuring" Gundam Seed and MS Saga: A New Dawn. I can not think of any other Gundam PS2 games that were translated to English though. Japan got a lot more though. Including more Vs games including some Gundam Seed vs Game. MS Saga is kind of a hidden Gundam game has Gundam isn't even included on the title. MS as in Mobile Suit Saga. Basically if you've ever played a Metal Max or Metal Saga game, MS Saga is basically a Gundam version of those.
Personally my absolute favorite Gundam games are in order:
Mobile Suit Gundam Battlefield Record U.C. 0081 (PS3 Japanese Exclusive, had to Import it basically a better Gundam Crossfire which dumbs down realism for more speed/action and loved it)
Mobile Suit Gundam Side Story Rise from Ashes (Dreamcast, closest thing to a proper Gundam Simulator that has ever existed, and has an believable story)
Mobile Suit Gundam Federation vs Zeon (PS2 because of course everyone loves it)
Mobile Suit Gundam Zeonic Front (PS2 basically Rainbow 6 Gundam, and I mean OG Rainbow Six before they became shooters)
Mobile Suit Gundam Gundam vs Zeta Gundam. (Federation vs Zeon 2.0, and generally better, but lacks some of the charm so I didn't like it as much)
I really do appreciate you watching, but I made both a Ms Saga video and a video on Battle Assault 3. Be sure to take a look! ❤️ And I'm glad GvZG is one of your favorites.
@@KinzieK You did? I will have to check them out I guess.
Everyone talks about Federation vs Zeon, but Gundam vs Zeta Gundam is kind of not often talked about. I guess because it's the sibling of the "original" vs game but not the first? The middle child you can say. I viewed Gundam vs Zeta Gundam like a huge expansion of the first game, all the suits from the first game were present as well as many of the maps, in addition to the massive amount of Zeta Gundam and even some ZZ content in the game. Hence why I said it's arguably better than the original but as I said, it doesn't have the same charm, but if you're just in it for the fighting/battles, not the music, presentation, etc it's definitely a better game than the original.
Tragically for good or bad alot of Gundam games never made it outside of Japan. Lost War Chronicles was made by the same people who made Journey to Jaburo. So you can likely say the negative reception to that game killed any chance of it releasing in NA. Lost War Chronicles was well received in Japan. Lost War Chronicles kind of can be summed up as being what Journey to Jaburo should of been. You can tell they took that game's foundation and actually made a better game out of it. Has a very large library of mechs to use as well. You can tell they originally planned on the game getting an NA release as nearly every aspect of the game but voiced dialogue is in English.
Interesting part about Journey to Jaburo and Lost War Chronicles, I think they're the only Gundam games that you can see human beings on the ground in some missions. At least to my knowledge. Excluding Gundam Battle Operations 1 and 2 of course as the players are people. Then again, Universal Century Gundam Online as well, but that is a whole other can of warms right there.
What I find weird is the Verses games got generally positive reviews, and feed back from players as well, yet none of the Seed verses games made it to NA yet..... YET.. we got Never Ending Tomorrow and Battle Assault 3, both I found terrible.
Gundam Seed Vs Zaft II Plus actually looked like fun. I bet the licensing issue with all the music from Seed was a big factor. If I recall and I maybe wrong Never Ending Tomorrow had much of it's OST cut in the NA version. So I can imagine how much of the music from Seed Destiny would of been cut from that game. Which would of really hurt it personally because the pop music from Seed/Destiny was stellar.
hell yeah new kinzie vid
Encounters in Space was my favorite! I loved the suits, build your pilot and story missions! I also really loved the combat!
I think I own every PS2 Gundam game except Seed and Journey to Jaburo was the first PS2 game I ever got and a gift from my brother so it means a lot to me... but I just want to say it was a blast back then and Zeonic Front is still a damn good game.
Journey to Jaburo has cel-animated cutscenes that are basically a remake of 0079, thats its biggest selling point.
F.Vs.Z. is the best Gundam game of all time. The movement is realistic, they capture the essence of the 0079 era perfectly, and the gameplay is actually strategic and fun. I would absolutely love a remaster
Randomly found this channel and I'm glad I did
Happy to have you here
@@KinzieK happy to be here
Your quality improves with every video, (this video especially)keep up the good work!
I sure will! Thank you for watching, cause that's why I do it! ❤️
Journey to Jaburo was one of my first PS2 games. And honestly it was great. Going through the story is sorta meh, but the extra missions was pretty awesome. It is where I learned how powerful the GM Sniper II was.
Im so glad more ppl talk about gundam keep up the good work dude also you should play gihrens greed
Yooooo I appreciate it. Thank you plenty!
4:17 I personally like Andrews Gaia in GSD rengou vs Zaft II. Its unlockable so its wacky in how it fights and Both gaias can't compare from maxi boost
I actually liked Encounters in Space, but I also played it around the time when it came out and haven’t touched it since.
Imagine g fighter on PlayStation move
Not a ps2 game but gundam side story blue destiny for the sega Saturn is a amazing game
Hey SEED: Never Ending Tomorrow! Armored Core called, they want their lockbox back!
LMAO the "Play Star Ocean 3" edits are sending me
THEY WILL WORK ON SOMEBODY ISTG
aww i was hoping to see Mobile Suit Gundam: Lost War Chronicles great vid tho
14:03 is golden lmao I can't stop thinking about it 😂
yes a new kinziek video!
It's cool to see fresh eyes on this old lineup after so long. Feels like no one gives these the time of day anymore. That said, _I'mma call out your bs_ (not really):
Feddy vs. Zeon:
"Solid" is basically how I'd describe it, yeah. Older me wouldn't get much out of it other than a nostalgia trip, but younger me? I was dreaming up battle scenarios against AI in my head *all the damn time.* I got my money's worth out of it and then some, fueled by childhood imagination. Also, yes, that intro is 😩👌.
Zeonic Front:
Huh, surprised you didn't like this one. It's basically Gundam's take on old Rainbow Six, which is understandably a niche form of real-time strategy that not everyone is gonna click with. I personally loved it since, despite it slower nature, it fits the game's overall design. The character dialogue tucked away in the briefing screens is also real juicy and helped me like Zeon lore that much more.
(Everyone knows Mission 06 is the worst gameplay level ever, though, even thought it makes sense lore-wise)
Gundam vs. Zeta:
I unfortunately missed this one. Looking back on it, though, I feel like it'd give me a similar experience to Feddy vs. Zeon, only way better. I may go back to fill in that gap someday, but idk, FvZ sated that itch for a lifetime.
Encounters in Space:
Wait, really, you don't like this?? R1/R2 for vertical control is jank, I'll give you that, but I consider this one of their best entries because of how fast, intense, and free-flowing it is (when not on-rails, anyway). This and Rez are my main reasons why I enjoy rail shooters, so this is surprising. Wish you went into more why it rubbed you the wrong way.
Journey to Jaburo:
Yeah, this just sucks.
Never Ending Tomorrow:
Never heard of this one. I'm glad I didn't. Even as someone who loves Encounters, this looks like some bastardized mockery of it. This comment would be a dissertation if I tried explaining what I saw wrong with it from your clips.
You missed Battle Assault 3, btw. It's a jank and memey attempt at a 3D fighter, but the audiovisuals and soundtrack give it IMMACULATE vibes; I still listen to the OST to this day. Way too much time spent in that game, man. MS Saga is another one, but that deserves its own video. There's... a lot to unpack, both good and bad.
Anyway, looking forward to Crossfire! I never played it, but it seems I wasn't missing much, lmfao.
Okaaaaaay I appreciate your thorough examination of my video! Thing about Encounters is that I genuinely just hated how it controlled. I really gave it an honest shot going through the tutorial but I could just never get used to it, so really, that IS how deep it really gets with me lol. Also, i did give MS Saga it's own video. I linked it as it's own video at the end.
PS: I thought Zeonic Front was okay, just not personally interesting enough to make its segment as long as Fed vs Zeon.
@@KinzieK Whoops, must've missed that video. Either that or it's been so long that I forgot. lol
Completely fair, tho. If the fundamentals of how a game works don't work for someone, ya can't expect them to keep playing.
Also fair. If you haven't, though, I def recommend looking up all the briefing conversations in Zeonic. It's solid writing and the dubbing is surprisingly genuine.
I forgot about that Zeta Gundam game. I never came across it in stores and never got to play it, but I'm glad to hear it was better than Encounters in Space. Journey to Jaburo becomes more enjoyable after beating the game, once you get a feel for all the quirks of the clunkliness. I used to play it so much going for S+ in every suit and just leisure. It's too bad we never got Lost War Chronicles. Zeonic Front should be my favorite, but the Dom changes it from challenging to winning before you know it, reducing the replay value when the matches don't have that back-and-forth like Jaburo battles have. Wish I had Federation vs Zeon, it was fun for the few times I played it.
Hey KinZeik would you ever consider doing a video on building a gunpla kit? I started about 2 years ago thanks to the pandemic and it's so much fun, it makes me sadder I never played any of these Gundam games when I was a kid, I only knew about the anime on Toonami
I've been considering making a gunpla video since my first gundam video, but I lost my kit, and I really never invested in another since. Life's funny like that haha
@@KinzieK believe it or not, Target is actually selling Gundam kits now but it's all good, can't wait for the next one
We've been trying to bully them into doing it on discord but it hasn't worked yet 😔
@@KinzieK RG gold frame, let's go!😎
0:44 😂 Yeah weird but in a lovable way.
I actually got good at Journey to Jaburo and beat it when I was in middle school.
It's back when controls in game aren't always smooth. (tank control in Resident Evil)
Gundam Battle Universe for the PSP was AWESOME. I don't think it ever released in the west though
This video was great! I honestly would like to see you do a video covering the *Japan-exclusive* ps2 Gundam games as well, if you were ever interested.
I decided to stick to mostly English due to convenience. I covered RvZ in the crossfire video tho.
I recall there was a Gundam RPG on PS2 which was surprisingly well made. It was the first game that I'm aware of that you can mix body parts and weapons from tons of units making for a real deep game, though the RPG engine is ultimately flawed.
If you mean MS Saga, I also did a video on it that you can check out
@@KinzieK yes! That's it! I have fond memories of this game which I finished 100% including the side boss which I recall was God Gundam.
Before i even get to number 1, gundam zeonic front is the best, no arguments needed, you're wrong anyways.❤
Don't worry, we're both wrong 😘
@@KinzieK perfectly balanced, as all things should be 🥴
Played all of these games except for Zeonic Front and Journey to Jaburo.
Encounters in Space I thought was a pretty awesome game when you get used to the controls. Machines move pretty fast and the multi lock-on was pretty neat. It's also story-wise one of the more expansive action games since it has episodes dedicated to multiple pilots across MSV, Stardust Memory and even Blue Destiny. Fun fact though, this gameplay style is actually something they already did on the PS1 with Char's Counterattack. But if you've heard/played a game called Omega Boost, think of it like that
Something to point out regarding the first two Gundam VS games. The first one has Deluxe in it because it's an updated port of the original arcade version. It added zero gravity levels as well as the additional two units for the Federation side, the Gundam Ground Type and the GM Ground Type. Also, the song that plays in that intro stage is Ai no Senshi, it's one of the theme songs from the Gundam movie trilogy.
Gundam VS Zeta Gundam's big change was introduced alongside the gimmick of the mobile suits of that series; alt modes. Nearly all of the units in the game can transform into a high-speed flight mode that gives them a major advantage over the other suits that can't. Like FVZ, GVZ added new content to the PS2 version, namely the unlockable ZZ mode which nets you the titular ZZ Gundam, and Qubeley Mk II alongside their pilots and the theme song Anime ja Nai. Its story mode is also a point of interest because aside from following the source material, it also lets you do what-if scenarios where you get different paths and endings based on who died or lived at that point, like what if Four survived,or if Amuro joined the Titans.
Never Ending Tomorrow was....yeah, a bit rough. I feel like it should have been a way flashier version of Encounters in Space, but for whatever reason, they made the melee combat system such a slog where it plays more like a rock-paper-scissors RPG as opposed to a hack-n-slash kind of thing. This is also the only time any of the Astray characters get an English dub
Really enjoy this content of niche anime games
I would play Journey over Encounters any day. I get hemorrhoids just thinking about Encounters!
We got only 1 of these in the uk fed vs zeon , I loved it I’d have really liked to play the others
God this video was good. Also points for MF DOOM
You already KNOW what it is 👌🏽
@@KinzieK yessss lad
Im gonna try making a vidoe to signal boost your videos. youtube been showing me a bunch of gundam stuff, and i randomly clicked on this... hilarious. making a note to try and make a short about this video
Oh wow that would be genuinely sick! I really appreciate you choosing my video. That makes my day fr ☺️
if i can come up with something or youtube lets me remix the video into a short gotchu for sure@@KinzieK
Gundam Battle Assault 2 kinda awesome.
With coop + dual hyper attack that turns a fighting game to fps game
Content 👌🏾
Unfortunately, X Play which is a game review show from back then and recently came back, they hated Anime and their games. They admitted that Gundam, Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Anime in general sucks because in their eyes the stories made no sense. They literally called fans idiots for liking Anime and their games.
Seems legit. Ill try to try em sometime.
Journey to jaburo hooked me on it's reanimated cut scenes, and then made me play it for hours once I realized it's kind of stupid. Love that game.
Vs. series was and is the pinnacle in entirety of Gundam games because the mechanics stayed the same and that's one solid balancing and was geared towards, well, players versus. PSP's Battle series was a mixed bag, but those eventually turned to Breaker in a way, so they paved their proper way over the years. All other, unique to these formulas, titles were overall meh if not jank right up until Battle Operation series.
Okay, can I be real? I didn’t know much of the lore of OG gundam before Federation vs Zeon and I feel offended many decades later because it feels like Zeon is the story of the United States but they shunted the war crimes up in the story.
Was I crazy I thought Battle Assault 3 was on the PS2 and died on the PS2, leaving GUndam VS to be the sole gundam fighting game forever more?
It was. I did a separate video on it though. You're not crazy.
Hi Kinzie!
*gasp* THE RedTopics just said hi to me! Hello!
Zeonic front was my favorite I've beat it about 7 times
Like and sub for the game grumps reference that made me choke on my vape😂
FINALLY SOMEONE POINTS IT OUT. WELCOME TO THE CUTE BITCHES
Dont please, not in the memories.
There were even some knock off gundam type games that were pretty good back then
You missed one of the best PS2 Gundam games btw. MS Sagas. A JRPG where you get to customize your MS and use them on an adventure.
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What annoys me is that the PS5 has been out for 4 years and we only have 4 Gundam games released for it, 1 of them is permanently dead, 2 of them are multi platform.
There was over 10 Gundam games released for the PS2 in just the first 4 years alone, with only a few making a appearance on the GameCube. I hate modern gaming with a passion
One Year War is a JP exclusive game that, imo, is easily the best on the system. It doesn't emulate very well though.
You missed Battle Assault 3 featuring Gundam SEED.
Also, I liked Encounters in Space so I tolerated Neverending Tomorrow but, another frustrating fact about it: the Japanese version actually uses music from the anime but they didn't want to pay to license it for the U.S. release so instead it's filled with a bunch of generic, non-anime music from older Gundam games. Also, even though it features ground based level, no one has a walk/run animation except Strike, and only on the first mission of the story mode.
4:30 Me: 😲🤯😂🤣😵
My wife:😐😑🏃♀️➡️
Ms saga:a new dawn,an actual good Gundam game on ps2
I love never ending tomorrow. And the game is so easy, i dunno how you struggle even if you hate it. Only the fight with haro was the hard one
Zeonic front isy favorite.
I'd love to see a more polished Zeonic Front style game or even a Gundam rts along the lines of Command & Conquer or Halo Wars someday.
But yeah fuck Journey to Jaburo. You think level 2 is a bitch? HOO BOI the last level is genuine bullshit. I could go on a long ass rant on how much this level makes me wanna feed my arms to a woodchipper
...but I wont.
Federation vs zeon one of my favorites games 😅
Weird. Don't recall Encounters having that bad controls
Still prefer Gundam vs Zeta Gundam
MS saga new dawn would like a mention otherwise great video, gundam vs zeta gundam is my favorite with it's gameplay (except team ai being bad) and what if scenarios
Check my channel, and you'll find your ms saga mention 😁
The ps1 gundam game was really good
Great video. you should do this for the PSP Version please
What about MS Saga: a new dawn?
Already covered it in it's own video. Check the Season 1 playlist. 😊
I will try to play star ocean 3
What is the bgm playing at 12:00? It sounds so familiar
SMT Nocturne - Mystery
You forgot MS Saga New Dawn
I didn't. Check my channel.
@@KinzieK based
No idea how I missed that the first time round but ... Play Star Ocean 3!
Now if only they’d make a version of GBO2 that’s actually fun to play… or at least Anime accurate , not “official” numbers made by high school nerds in the early 80’s who thought Zaku’s were “made of STEEL” accurate
Have you got around to looking at Super Robot Wars 30 yet?
I've thought about it, and I don't think I'll make a video about it. I think my previous SRW video kinda already says what I would have said about it in a way
Ah. You only covered Gundam games that made it to the west.
Yes and no. I have covered Super Robot Wars T (whether that counts is up to you), Gihren's Greed in the gundam reborn video, and rengou vs zaft in the crossfire video. 👌🏽
Yeah. Federation vs Zeon is the best.