Is The Last of Us "Remake" Worth Playing?
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0:00 Intro
02:43 Remake versus Remaster
05:13 Gameplay Upgrades
06:28 Visual Upgrades
10:22 New Options Menu
12:02 Critiques
13:58 Did This Need A Remake?
16:32 Closing Remarks
17:53 Amazingly Awesome Patrons - เกม
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I simply don't understand why an already good looking game needs a remake there are hundreds of other ips that's deserve a remake . Bruh
Simple, a cash grab.
because $$$. they know Last of Us fans are willing to rebuy the same shit over and over again. happened when they re-released and remastered it to the PS4, the PS5, etc etc.
@@GhostNappa2k10 tru like the spiderman PS4 remaster it's like saying look at my new and improved hotdog it has onions on it
@@repawn3610 I’d say it’s more like Skyrim re-releases, tbh.
@@repawn3610 Spider-Man Remastered was more like a re-release imo, since it's on the same engine and everything
My issue with this remaster isn’t that it exists - it’s the cost of it that makes scratch my head.
*remake
@@LorraineMcFly resident evil 2 is a remake this is a remaster disguised as a "remake"
@@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137 Ok.
Didnt they remove the multiplayer? Its a complete rip off
Yea asking mom for $70 is getting tough huh?
For me personally, the price tag would have been worth it if they had gone the extra mile and upgraded the gameplay with some mechanics from last of us 2, namely the dodge mechanic. The prone I could have done without, since stealth is already pretty decent, but the melee combat and combat in general had much more depth in part 2 which made it so much more fun, so I was really hoping to see that here.
I don’t know. I keep seeing what Microsoft is doing with their performance boost and series x updates for older titles and it tends to look on par fidelity wise and slightly faster frame rates then what was done in this title.
I mean hell, gear 3 and 4 look way sharper. Even the update they made to the gears one ultimate edition from 2014-2015 looks crazy good and these are free updates.
@@passionatetechnology8306 I understand that, I definitely feel like another year would have benefited this game a lot. Maybe they can put in a patch or two down the line to improve it
@@kieranmcccccc995 perhaps. I think if people have the remastered version for ps4 that they should definitely get this version for free on the ps5.
So a dodge mechanic is worth $70? That’s dumb lol
Tess looking older was definitely a good change cause it now makes her look like Joel’s peer in terms of age because in the original she looked like she was in her 20’s
In my opinion, remakes should be reserved for games that fell flat at launch due to the technology of the time not being powerful enough to fully realise the vision, we should be remaking the 5-6/10 cult classics not the 9-10/10 masterpieces that still hold up.
Edit: this got way more attention than I thought it would, so I thought I'd just clarify a few things;
1) I'm not saying I personally think TLoU is a 9-10/10 masterpiece, I'm just saying thats the general consensus on the game.
2) since people are replying with their own ideas for cult classic remakes, I thought I'd just share mine. "Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance" who remembers that sh*t? Just me? 😂
@time to leave earth
*_D E C L I N A T I O N_*
That's what you'd do, if you had any artistic integrity and weren't just aiming to milk braindead consumers, with another cynical rehash of something they recognize.
Nier replicant lol
Well, that would take effort, talent and money and corporate hates spending any of those.
What about the Resident Evil series? RE1 had flaws but was an instant classic and it had an amazing remake. And RE2/RE3 had remakes that completely altered the gameplay. I agree with you on everything except for games needing to be bad to average for them to benefit from a remake. I think good to great games can still benefit by evolving the gameplay.
It should be £20 or £30 in my opinion, £70 for the same game with only graphical changes is way too much
We are talking modern Sony here. The very definition of bloody greed, nowadays.
@@GhostNappa2k10 quite a contrast from 2014 Sony
No multiplayer either. So it's actually missing features.
And without multiplayer.
£70 and you don't even get the multiplayer either.
you're literally paying the equivalent of $90 in the US for half a game that looks a little prettier lmao
I feel like the selling point for almost every AAA game for the past decade has been “it sucks to play, but it sure looks good!”
The better a game looks the more I'm hesitant to play it
Every indie game is the exact opposite "Look at these stupid pixel/low poly graphics, but the gameplay is the most fun you're going to have in your life!"
@@WhatAboutThatGuy "Look at these stupid pixel/low poly graphics, but the gameplay is the most fun you're going to have in your life"
I'm not sure if that really checks out for a lot of the recent indie games. Seems to me like the low poly, pixelated graphics itself has became an aesthetics to nostalgia-bait people into buying them for the look, while the gameplay is barebone, ankle-deep. I dont think any generalization really fully checks out on either end of the specturm
@@toantoan3574 Yes it was rather stupid for me to generalize indies, but I think those games you're talking about are more like cash grabs than actual games, but I meant games like Deep Rock Galactic, not, call of dusk or something
@@toantoan3574 Yeah most of them suck ass especially the millions of pixel art platformers .
seeing a blind person beating the game actually reminded me a game made for blind people, a normal person can also play it and it's very good and fun too. It's called shadow of the crown ( I don remember the actual name). The whole game rely on sound and the sound design is amazing, there is stealth section, combat and a hub area where you walk around and interact based on sound(sound of a smith hamering metal for the gear shop and sounds of people talking for tavern and sounds of church bell for a church) combat is also fully sound based. Basically enemy attack from left front and right, you can block or parry based on timing. You can attack these places too with a light or heavy attack. There is also magic, and archery. The whole game is just a black screen with some particle effect, so you just listen to everything. It's a really really unique and fun game.
That sounds pretty cool. I'm really happy how gaming is putting an emphasis on accessibility these days.
Yeah but the thing is video games require site and not having a blind mode isn't discrimination
@@phabiorules Yeah great.. so the .1% can play a handicapped partial experience and the 99.9% can not enjoy anything from all that effort.
Sounds dumb as shit.
@@mjay6245 What a strange and jaded take. No one is forcing this game down your throat (though it seems you might enjoy that type of pleasure). Either you have a deep seated issue with audio-only experiences, such as music or audiobooks, or you have some strange grudge with the blind.
Maybe you hate videogames, and the idea of a blind person being able to experience one in a way that "sees" more towards their world only adds on to the numbers. Or maybe you genuinely tried the game and couldn't figure it out, so you came to this video of all places to express your "big take" on a small indie game that in no way trying to target anyone, including you.
Unless you're blind I guess.
Okay, so it’s clear that they put considerable effort into the visuals and such, but I’m not so sure it’s as greatly appreciated as it would’ve been had they chosen to remake a game that DOESN’T hold up when viewed through the modern lens (and I don’t care what anyone says but TLOU Remastered on the PS4 still holds up perfectly AND maintains smooth 60FPS performance).
Again, I don’t begrudge anyone that’s a huge TLOU fan and wants to go out and get this. I’ve just already experienced this game enough times that the visual upgrade isn’t enough to entice me to see it through again right now (I may pick it up when it’s relatively cheap just to have-for at whatever future date I DO decide I want to play through TLOU again).
I agree with this. The only reason I care about this remake is so I can play it on PC.
dude they didn't put any effort. all they did was up the resolution lol.
TLOU 1 with TLOU2 graphics would've been cool, but..... it just doesn't look as nice as TLOU2, so it's just really disappointing to me.
@@AndersonClips can tell thats not true, they remade the character facial structures and updated majority of the visuals ( probably to make it look more in line with lou2 ). Not something I think was necessary, but hey I'm not buying it anyway.
@@AndersonClips And you didn't put any effort in checking the difference, it seems like.
I believe the 70-dollar price tag is part of the "improved gameplay".
That is: because there's still some warmth in the story of the first game, the player wouldn't feel miserable enough by modern day standard. So Naughty Dog would rip you off by charging 70 dollars for an un-necessary remaster of a 9-years-old game which lies about being a remake. And by the time the player realized that he's been scammed, he'd be properly depressed, just as planned!
Just in time for that person to buy the sequel and promptly blow their brains out from the depression.
Those naughty dogs
You virgins really read way to deep into things
The fuck are you talking about🤣freak
"But she's got a new hat" -Smithers
I think the re-done faces of Tess and Bill were done so that they actually look more like their motion capture actors :) And the fact that Tess is supposed to look like she's in her mid-40's, not early 20s 😅
she never looked like early 20s. She looked mid to late 30s. Now she look like she's in her 50s
hmm no its because attractive women cant exist in modern western games
@@kouriier6112 unless there underaged or Gay
Am I the only one that liked Tess being younger than Joel? It makes their dinamic way more interesting imo
@@kouriier6112 jerk off to something else
I love this man's editing. Well-paced, like the best games are.
Also nothing has the right to be called a remake unless it's made from scratch. With these modern games, it's unlikely to be from scratch.
It's a ground-up remake, that also adjusted gunplay, enemy AI, UI, sound, haptic feedback, and other things.
Funny how no one bitched about the Demon's Souls remake, that make ZERO changes to ANYTHING except visuals.
@@BoJangles42 shut up
@@BoJangles42. One, you're a terrible liar. Two, don't deflect.
@@dragonbornexpress5650 They're not lying. Watch digital foundry's review on the game. You'll see all the changes they have made. Whether you agree with the game or not, they put a lot of work into making it.
@@BoJangles42 TLOU can be played in backwards compatibility, as the remastered version was released on the PS4. Same can't be said about Demon's Souls.
This being made wasn't the issue
It being $70 was. Especially when it's more of a visual upgrade
Actually making remaster of remaster is beginning to be issue.
Last time I checked at was like €80 on the PS store. They really are taking the piss
@@Neo_Rain146 major rip
Games selling for the same have taken less effort to make, at least consider that.
@@Quazzi the whole $70 thing is bs anyways. This is just the worst offender. Demons souls had way way more effort put into it
This should have been $30, it should have included the multiplayer, and not only the Left Behind DLC but an additional DLC starring Joel and Tommy working as hunters prior to Joel’s arrival in Boston.
Cry more
@@DeathhAngel1 Bro if you want to blow $70 be my guest. Absolutely no skin off my back.
Best comment on this whole comment section right here^
THAT’S WHAT I’M SAYING.
Content > anything else
If they had announced that this remake contained ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL STORY CHAPTER, I would’ve been like, “well, DAMN. Guess I’m buying TLOU FOR A THIRD TIME.”
But the moment it became apparent that this was like 99% just an audiovisual upgrade (and that they weren’t even going to try and implant some of the improved combat mechanics of TLOU Part II into it), I was like, “nevermind, I’m good.”
@@DeathhAngel1 you know you don't have to prohect about how you hate the fact you're getting scammed
I loved this review. I really wish Factions multiplayer could've also gotten this upgraded visual treatment. I'm thankful they also added the upgraded version of the DLC in this release, but, man, you're right: the story mode is a heartbreaker to play through again. without multiplayer, i just don't see this as a first day buy. i don't even have a ps5 though so... I'm out anyways, lol.
i think i will wait for a sale on the pc version tho lol
The thing about the triggers being flipped was actually present in the PS4 remaster as well. You can pick which trigger set up you prefer in the controls options there, and I imagine you can in the remake too. Just throwing that out there.
Although I am happy this game will eventually be on the PC, I think the price tag of $70 is a joke. If anything, PC players would take the 2013 version just fine. Just seems like NaughtyDog can’t take a break from TLoU
Cry more
@@DeathhAngel1 why though, I'm not the one playing on an overpriced potato
@@DeathhAngel1 and you just shut up
@@DeathhAngel1 Eh ps5 has no games.
Price???
Just pirate it. They literally robbed people who wanted a refund fo Tlou 2. Do yourself a favor and just pirate it because they sure do not respect you and don't deserve your money.
I'm not denying the remake looks good but there were definitely moments in the video where I questioned whether I was looking at the PS5 remake or the PS4 remaster.
yeah, its mostly the framerate that gives it away which version is which
@@sporkhatsoda4532 Which is conveniently locked at 30 on ps5 for the remaster
This entire video I'm questioning that. The PS4 version looks fine and can hold up for at least until the next generation. This remaster happened way too soon. If I have to put effort to scrutinize the scene to realize it's a remaster then it's not worth a purchase.
Lol sure
@DigitalAlpha Isn't it also kind of fucked up the "disabled accessable" version comes at a higher price?
From my point of view, if there isn't new content, new mechanics, implementation of previously cut content, or not even a reimagination of something from the original, then it's a remaster, doesn't matter if it's rebuilt from 0 in a new engine with new assets and new code, you just made the same game on better hardware and up to date graphics/technology. Plus, it doesn't even have the multiplayer, and it's still a whopping $70.
Exactly lmao Naughty Dog thinks we're stupid enough to waste almost 100 bucks for this crap. I feel sorry for the people who bought and played it...Capcom do a better job of adding new and refreshing mechanics into their Resident Evil games and yet Naughty Dog can't do that for shit lmao
Hey gman I just wanted to congratulate you're success. I'm nobody but you're reviews have always been awesome and I'm glad more people are recognizing your talent. You're videos are always entertaining and I wish you nothing but the best in the future.
We went from getting 3 games in a series on a console to getting 1 game on 3 consoles. We need to go back.
Game development is just to pricey now I guess. We didnt even get a new GTA yet we got IV and V on the ps3/360. The f*uck. Lol
Life
Gotta get back, Samurai Jack.
@@DV-ou1yu "The f*uck."
You failed at censoring
@@erso_returned2530 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Oh snap, I'm for sure getting terminated now
I heard that a Days Gone sequel was shelved in favor of the Last of Us remake. Days Gone might not be the best game ever, but it might have some potential if a sequel comes out.
Yep, remember the first Uncharted wasn't that good. It was the sequel that blew everyone away and made it one of Sony's premiere exclusives. Days Gone could've done the same.
It's unconnected. Days Gone's developers, Bend Studio, pitched the sequel in 2019 and failed to get it greenlit. Work on the remake started in secret before Last of Us 2 finished production through Visual Arts Service Group's founder Michael Mumbauer.
I keep seeing this, Naughty Dog didn't make Day's Gone
@@skipperdipper5186 That isn't relevant. Sony cancelled Days Gone 2 and greenlit The Last of Us instead.
@@WH250398 Source?
all they had to do was figure out a way where going prone works with the level design, and also include the TLOU2's combat mechanics (with dodging and stuff) and then it could be actually classified as a Remake rather than a remaster. it would change the gameplay just enough to warrant the hype and stuff. at least in my opinion
Adding anything to the original no longer makes it a remake, it's a different game at that point.
Yeah, including prone will definitely bump up the value of the game. I actually think though the level design will definitely require some changes to have this. But nevertheless, even so, I'd say $50-60 tops.
Dodge should be optional thing that you can turn off and on cause it made Part II too easy, even on Survivor or Grounded.
@@someguy2775. That's literally what a remake is, you clown.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400. Disagree; Even then, that can mostly be chalked up to the very mediocre enemy AI rather than the actual mechanic.
Loving the games reviews how you have no filter no bs just straight reviews it's my daily dose of happiness.
I'm glad you mentioned Max Payne being so replayable. I'd rather spend 5 hours a bit closer to heaven than 50 hours in some tedious Ubisoft slogfest.
I wish you mentioned the lack of multiplayer on PS5. I have no desire to replay the campaign again, but I've put hundreds of hours in Factions online on PS4. Would be nice to have a more complete game on PS5 instead of this incomplete rehash.
I love Maxpayne 3 Gunplay is amazing. I do really enjoy the last of us as well.
It would definitely have been nice to get a Factions remake as part of this package. However, I think the answer to why they didn't can be found in the question when people ask, "why spend resources on this remake when those resources could be used to make a new game?" The multiplayer TLOU game coming out next year is apparently massive, and that's where those resources are being poured into along with at least one other project, presumably TLOU3 and a new IP.
@@phrozac Yeah the PS5 is a system full of potential. Wake me up when it's a reality. 😴 Maybe when PS5 Slim hits?
@@DP12321 Not sure what you're talking about. It's not even 2 years old yet and there's a ton of great exclusive games on PS5 not to mention every cross gen game is better on PS5 than PS4. I look at the PS5 like a PC GPU update with the PS4 being a GTX 970 and the PS5 being an RTX 2080.
@@phrozac A "ton of great exclusives games"? You must be joking.
When I watch comparisons of the PS4 and PS5 version, I feel that the PS4 version just looks more aesthetically pleasing. The lighting is much more vibrant with striking yellows and greens, but now Naughty Dog seems to dull and darken everything down.
Yeah I noticed that with Uncharted 4 as well, the previous games were so bright and colourful and artistically.
@@STRING3R seems they gave up the stylized look they had back then for this more muted attempt at realism
Preach
@@breathlessdynasty9928 No, it's bleach.
I’m sure you haven’t seen Digital Foundry video
Great review, your edits are always top tier. I think I'm gonna hold off since my buddy and I are doing a couch co op playthrough for Destroy all Humans 2 and we're having an absolute blast with it.
Paying full price for this is like someone charging dealership price on a used car just because it got a new paint job
I get that there's more work being done here than people are giving them credit for but for a full price release I would have liked to see at least a couple more part 2 gameplay elements.
they should have added the last of us 2 (which i personally didnt like but is now bargain bin priced ) with this remake as it would have softened the full price this not so remade remake !!
@Merk236
Merk236
there is one, when Joel aims his pistol, he will cock the hammer which was not on the original PS3/PS4 but was in TLOU2, I think the gamplay of "Remake" is a 1.5 version of Part II's 2.0
What you're asking for is a reimagining, they promised a remake and that's exactly what they delivered.
@@codname125 a couple of new gameplay mechanics is not gonna reimagine
it.
@@TheMinhthe sure, it's still not a requirement for a remake though
I remember prior to its initial ps3 release, devs were showing off enemy AI how they would hide on the other sides of walls (and maybe some other strategies?), but that never made it to the actual game.
To your point, couldn’t more work have been put into the mechanics, if they are calling this a remake.
And if the hiding behind wall mechanic or other tweaks were intentionally not included, like the devs said it wasn’t fun to play against for example, would be cool to have dev notes as behind the scenes content.
Hyperbithero has a great vid of the downgraded ai
If they changed the mechanics anymore, they would need to completely reimagine the game. That isn't necessary.
All the videos they show at E3 and GamesCom are fake. The AI never did any of what was shown, it was scripted.
@@JustinLesamiz. It's called a remake; That's the entire fucking point of a remake.
@@JustinLesamiz WHOA. You mean they’d have to… like… oh I dunno… REMAKE THE GAME?!?
Man you've been busy af lately, ty for all the content fr
I was blocked by one of the developers on Twitter for saying this isn't a true remake. Goes to show their priorities.
Remake of a game 9 years old, a game that already has seen a beautiful remaster, a game that didn't had any serious problems to justify that a "remake" would fix them. And the remake costs more than the original game when it was released!
Remember reading Steam reviews that C&C remaster was "another cash grab from EA", a remaster of two games from middle 90's, with remastered sound/FMVs/Mod support/Console missions and all the expansions, at the cost of 20 bucks = "cash grab"...
Talking about cash grab...
What's C&C?
@@miguelcondadoolivar5149 command and conquer, I believe; Could be wrong
What is "beautiful" about the remaster? There is just a higher resolution/FPS. The 50$ for the remaster was a way bigger ripoff then 70$ for a completely remodeled game.
@@TheMusic4Soul lmao, the remaster was good enough to the point where in 2022…it still looks and feels like it could last for up to 2-3 more years before it’s age really started to show. Jak and Daxter (2001) and Uncharted (2007) deserved a remake before TLOU (2013). Unlike the remaster, the remake doesn’t even have multiplayer lol. Another thing to think about is that a lot of people were able to play TLOU Remaster because of the game being included with many PS4 consoles. TLOU Remaster has also been on the PS Plus Collection since the PS5 launched in November 2020. There isn’t a single reason that’s good enough to defend the $70 price tag of TLOU remake aka TLOU re-remaster, *especially* without multiplayer.
This latest remaster was alright, but it was really strange how, out of nowhere, in the middle of the part where Joel is trying to find a run-away Ellie, a text-to-speech version of Troy Baker’s voice came out of nowhere, and said “This reminds me of that time I mercilessly slaughtered all those zebras”, before jarringly teleporting you to a PS2 looking room, full of Zebras, and a “dead zebra” counter in the top right corner of the screen, with the game only returning you to the normal game, once you’ve mercilessly slaughtered all of the zebras, and spat on their corpses, only for the same text-to-speech Troy Baker to say “I truly hate those majestic creatures, and all who would waste their time saving the life of one, and would mercilessly kill any innocent soul who ever saved one of them zebras”, once you teleport back to the actual game.
It just kinda came out of nowhere, honestly.
what
Oh shit Naughty Dog hired Sam Raimi?
If I ever make my own game, I'll put something like that in, and then NEVER follow up on it. Leave the player wondering to the very end.
And it'll be thanks to you.
@@Calvin_Coolage HAHAHAHAA
@@Couch_Banana Many games have done that already, MGS3 comes to mind
This is why I am subbed to you, the in depth reviews of games like this that others refuse to go in-depth on. Great video Gman! Keep them coming!
To the best of my understanding the "Remake" description just comes from the fact that this is technically an entirely new game made from scratch, just meant to be identical to an older one, as opposed to how remasters are usually taking the old game on the old engine and just updating it.
Really the whole argument comes down to whether or not a game is a remaster if it doesn't use any of the old game's files.
One of the most pointless remakes ever. They stress that "its a remake" when it avoids taking advantage of any actual benefits of remakes. It's a remake with the philosophy of a remaster. Truly pointless.
Yep~
a remaster is just a fancy name for a port. we used to just call it a port.
@@djangofett4879 No a port is literally the sane gane visually and mechanically lol
Unlike, say, the upcoming Resident Evil 4 remake. The original is still a phenomenal game don’t get me wrong but it is starting to show its age. Meanwhile The Last of Us was released in the late PS3/early PS4 era which means it still holds up in terms of visuals and gameplay.
Both are still good games of course, but an RE4 remake makes far more sense then a TLOU remake
@@djangofett4879 The thing is, the graphical leap from console to console has become so minor that a "port" can just be the same exact thing with no graphical/performance upgrade and that's acceptable, whereas a "port" in the 90s could've meant an entirely different game depending on the technological differences of the consoles. I think it's fair to consider a port and remaster two very different things at this point. Either way I suppose it's pointless semantics though lol
It'd be "awesome" if there was a mode where the game would give you a bonus for doing entire sections of the game without using any ammo or killing anyone or anything. Also can't wait for the PC Modders to replace every Clickers with Nemesis from RE.
a ranked playthough with chapter select after the first one would be a decent way to handle it. they can spice up the gameplay with challenges while having a completely as story intended playthough.
This guy is one of the worst reviewers. He expects things to be all rainbow in a post apocalyptic zombie infested world lmao 🤦♂️
what would the bonuses be?
PC modders will have fun with Abby's dad for sure
I'll wait a few years for the price drop to between $10-20 (PC port). While they did put effort with newer engine, it's doesn't justify the $70 price tag. The original remastered still looks really good, so this remake feels quite unnecessary, Unless they were trying make it more in line with Part 2 in graphics and gameplay style. But, I don't see much difference in the gameplay between this remake and the original remastered version.
I will definitely say that as much as I love the last of us and part 2, the mechanics in part 2, primarily with stealth and combat are immensely better. When I first booted up part 1 I got to the first combat encounter with infected and tried dodging out of the way only to be reminded that this mechanic is not included in this game. I would have liked to see them throw in some new stuff here and there especially for 70 bucks.
Im rly pissed they didnt change the combat a bit a little bit would've gone a long but i would like to reexperience this game with the update graphics, ive also noticed that they have added slight changes to the animations such as the beginning where you use ur first med kit where joel actually touches his arm the little details are worth a playthrough in my opinion but thats up to you
TLOU looked good when it came out and IMO has aged pretty well and the remaster that they’ve already made looked fine. The only plausible reason I can think of for ND “remaking” a game that already looks and plays well is because they’re out of ideas, but they still don’t want to put in any real work. They’ll forever be overshadowed by RE remakes and projects like FF7
Sony has been releasing a lot of ps4 games on pc lately. They probably planned to release tlou on pc, but the ps5 schmucks would've complained if they weren't given the same updated visuals. Now they get to pay $70 for it lmao
Sure, the game looked good. too bad it was a joyless, boring slog of a game
They need to release a more woke game rn
Probably one of the main reasons for this getting a green light is an investment. Make an updated version for modern consoles, and when the shitty TV show comes out and attracts a bunch of people to the IP, some will wanna play the games. Make a brand new shiny paint job to attract the guys into dropping more money for both games. I mean it's probably why they went with the PT.1 name, to make it very clear to the average viewer which your supposed to play first, and then pressure them into getting the first one in fear of missing out on stuff for PT.2.
lol
The original game already looked fantastic on PS3, as they squeezed a lot out of the console, finally optimized it for the Cell supercomputer lol. Which was notoriously hard to program for.
Even still, games like MGS4, Demon Souls and DMC4 prove that PS3 was very capable if optimized right.
The remake has a different vibe to it, and feels somewhat artificial with these graphics. Extra details over OG artstyle just isn't worth it.
I think it may be because I jumped on that generation really late (like 2012) but those games on PS3/360 always looked super crisp. It isn't until now that I have a fairly average PC and I play the games I missed out on that I realize there was still a ton of room for improvements lol
It was only 30FPS on the PS3. 30FPS always looks like total shit. 30FPS can also be headache inducing. Even though I played tons of console games in my life, I still could never get used to 30FPS. I won't even play a game anymore if it's only 30FPS.
@don't be surprised I hate you for self promoting, and you should get copyright strikes
translation: I am overwhelmed by nostalgia and am more attached to the warm fuzzy feelings of being young and playing the game for the first time and I'm incapable of objective judgment of the graphics
@@Ryuk45 Enjoy this cashgrab of "remake" whit less content than the original game and worse looking character models.
I agree with you if there going to remake the game and charge what a full price completely new game cost then I want improved controls and modernized the gameplay I don't need prone but dodge seems like it would of been easy to implement into the game and there has to be some cut content they could of added.
It kind of makes sense that the pc version was released right after the TV show
They saw what Bethesda did to Skyrim and thought that they should also do that.
Well idiots buy it so why not?
And Rockstar with GTA 5. Like honestly how many versions of these games do we need?
And now skyrim fans will jump on your throat with the good old "but the mods"
When this remake was announced I instantly knew it was a cash grab. However, a small part of me was hoping that they would have added new areas and cut content to make the 70$ more deserving. It’s honestly disappointing but good to know I don’t need to buy this again.
7:16 the most comically kick sound ever
17:43 that jackass part has me dying with laughter XD
One of the main reasons it feels like the old TLOU holds up in your head is because of how it handled its presentation.
Pretty much anything that gives you a close look at the graphics like the cutscenes are all just prerendered FMV. The in-game graphics are a somewhat close approximation to those cutscenes that you think the cutscene graphics are how the game actually looks.
Not to downplay the visuals of the original though. It's super impressive and squeezing everything out of the hardware, but it's still a PS3 game at the end of the day.
I don't understand what are you trying to say
@@MrLachapell The point is that they redid pretty much all the visual assets. New textures, new models, new lighting, better facial animation tech, etc.
TLOU was a very pretty game for its time and a graphical showpiece for the system, but calling this a "so-called" remake does a grave disservice to the amount of work that went into it.
The original game IS dated. Even in its PS4 form. It's functionally no different from claiming Uncharted 4 looks no better than 3.
@@jeffnussbaum716 ooh right i understand, I'm dumb lol
It's true, even if the game still holds up today graphically, it's still a PS3 game , and on that front the remake does makes it better since they are using a more recent engine and such
For me I'd still play the PS3 version just because it's the roignal but for someone who has never play it I'd recommend jump straight to the remake
God you guys are dumb
@@MrLachapell All the cutscenes in the OG and remastered version of TLOU are pre-rendered and look much better than their real-time in-game counterparts. In TLOU Part 1, all those cutscenes are real-time using in-game assets. So the optimal comparisons to make would be between the gameplay sections of these games as the OG cutscenes aren't representative of the actual 3d capabilities of the PS3 hardware.
I don’t think I’ve seen a game company go from loved to disliked as quickly as naughty dog
*ahem*....Blizzard
CD Project Red lol and Rockstar a little bit. Past 5 years have been wild
Which is completely bonkers considering the fact that they still put out QUALITY stuff only. But hey, there was a buff girl in Part II, lets destroy them!!!!111 -.-
@@joseph2000117 Add Capcom too after that RE3 Remake debacle? lol
@@trblemayker5157 hell no, still love Capcom.
I remember the work of art which was your the Last of Us 2 review that was epic, and this one did not disappoint
The thumbnail looks like a drunken night with the homies! 😂
Apparently, TLOU1 Remake was originally a project from Sony’s Visual Arts Service Group, one of their many support studios. Somewhere along the line, ND took and interest and took over the project. Unfortunately, they effectively forced the support studio off the project, leading some of the support studio developers to quit.
They're the original developers tho
@@narutofan4545 I'll rephrase my comment. What I meant was this lead to several people from the support studio quitting.
Reminds me of how Neill most certaintly made their previous creative director/writer leave the studio
Seems like cancer has spread
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Distract yourself from your mind friendo 👊
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@@TexasPoonTapa what about people who do pray yet get screwed over in life?
Hope you feel better soon, and keep your head up. Don't listen to the religious nuts who can't wait to jump at any opportunity to prosthelytize to someone who is in an unfortunate situation. Prayer doesn't work and hoping to get better through divine intervention is a great way for no progress to be made. Seek help from real people and do your best!
Thumbnail is legendary.
If you have the PS4 remastered version , does it upgrade if you put the disk in a PS5?
Can we stop calling it a remake? It isn’t. It’s a remaster. The gameplay is the same, the cutscenes are the same, the dialogue is the same, the music is the same, everything is the same except for the visuals. It’s a $70 dollar REMASTER for a game that isn’t even 10 years old. Don’t even said in a press release that the only reason they made this thing is that it was easy and they wanted to make money. It’s literally just a cash grab. Seriously, if they can’t even include prone and the other gameplay features from the sequel then how is it not a cash grab remaster?
The term "remaster" comes from music and film, where the same underlying recordings would go through the "mastering" process again with newer, higher fidelity technology.
This is not a remaster. The underlying game assets are *not the same*. Calling this a remaster instead of a remake isn't some slamdunk criticism, my guy.
Facts the delusional fanboys need to read and understand before justifying $70 price tag.
@@Langtw It literally doesn't matter what they call it, $70 is still shit value for anyone who has played either previous version..which I'm guessing is a lot.
It's crazy, back in 2010 they remastered Perfect Dark 64 about 10 years after the game first came out, and charged 10$ for it on release. This game is just as old as the original perfect dark 64 was when they released the remaster it in 2010, but they're charging full price for this game as if it were a brand new title
@@Langtw Maybe not by definition but by what the game does its more closer to what most game remasters were for, past 2 decades than what remakes were. And thats what ends up mattering more at least for majority of games, there hasn't been MAJOR gameplay changes to warant much.
I liked that you:
1) Played both versions for an extensive amount of time to confidently compare them
2) Asked the question who this is for, by providing an interesting perspective from someone who's played through the original many times
3) Inserted your own brand of humor into the review
All around I really enjoyed this video and thought it was informative.
I'll likely buy this on PC if/when it comes out as the controls on PS4 were shit.
that why we sub and give love this boomer guy!
Exactly
took the words out of my mouth. I'm surprised even in a game as serious and depressing as TLOU, Gman finds a way to inject his humor anyway
(Edit: Oh yeah it's gonna control like a charm with m&k)
There's no if. They already announced this will be coming to PC. My guess is in a month or two.
@@bobsnob3073 I would say at least a year. Uncharted Legacy is coming out first to PC by the end of this year. I figure they scheduled the release dates as such, and to give PS5 an exclusive for a bit before releasing it to PC.
Nice editing in this one. Especially the ironic quick cuts lol
14:34 this part you don't need to kill all the enemies to move on, just run for the door and swipe the security card.
The last game on the planet that needs a remake. The original is still a technological masterpiece. I want a Bloodborne remake more tbh.
Why? Bloodborne looks absolutely phenomenal! A pc port is what we need for that one.
That has nothing to do with Naughty Dog
@@ultrapwnd ok, good for them?
@@joelshajan8706 The word "port" has been lost to time. now we can only say reboot, remaster or remake. ports no longer exist 🤔🤔🤔 *cue x-files theme music*
@Jacke EgressAgreed. Some people would rather have a remake/remaster over a sequel/prequel
I played this game on the PS3 for the first time a few years after launch and absolutely loved it, then I played the PS4 remastered version a couple years ago a couple months before TLOUP2 launched to refresh myself on the story before playing the sequel. This game is only 9 years old, it seriously does not need a remake. I can understand why they did port it and did a graphics overhaul for the PS4, considering the game came out around the same time as the PS4 launch and they wanted to give PS4 owners the ability to play the game (given the PS4 is not backwards compatible with the PS3) but rebuilding the literal exact same game from the ground up with some graphical improvements just seems like a waste of money and resources to me personally... The game is 9 years old, not 20...
I always got the impression since i found out that they were doing a remake was that they are bringing it up to spec for the port to PC, release it on PS5 first for the timed exclusivity of it and to hopefully get more people to buy it on console before the PC release. Still think thats the overall game plan still.
@@teajunk1e This could very much be possible, and if so the remake does make a bit more sense... Although I feel like it would've been cheaper and easier just to port and do a graphics overhaul of the PS4 version instead of completely re-building it from the ground up (especially since it's pretty much the same game) but I don't know much about game design or programming so this could be much harder than I realize...
@@KyleKirkpatrick123 I agree however if you look at games ported to pc like Horizon Zero dawn, God of War etc there was updated versions for pc, almost like a quality line Sony has. I could just be speaking hot air at this point but i do hope i am right and they bring TLOU to pc, its a game i am very much wanting to play.
The requiem for a dream metaphor was spot on hahah
I so feel you when it comes to Max Payne and if you include the mods...oh man,i must've finished this game a 1000 times. Sames goes for the sequel. Im so happy they gonna remake these.
They have the audacity to charge $70
Cry harder
@@DeathhAngel1 I don’t think they are crying
@@DeathhAngel1 It's not about crying, it's about the industry spiraling into higher prices for less content or even remade games. It's a ridiculous decay.
Everyone: What inspired you to remake The Last of Us for the PS5 and charge $70 for it?
Sony/Naughty Dog: Money.
Ok, that opening was *chef’s kiss*
To me the flashbacks are the gymnasium on grounded difficulty . I've beat it 6 times combined on PS3/4 versions. Glad you went through this ps5 version so I don't have to. The level design was really immersive and if they were to remake anything bring out a Gitaroo Man ps5 remake ☺️
Nah its the sniper level
I really would've bought this game if they brought over graphics _and_ the enhanced gameplay. But just graphics and no multiplayer mode? They're insane. Tlou is my favorite game in general, but they can piss off charging $70 again because "wooks pwetty"
Max Payne are literally one of the games I want either a remaster of, or remake of preferably remaster tbh
I never get enough of it, I just take breaks from it
I think they are making a remaster
@@MC-yo6kz max payne 1&2 remake in one package for ps5, series X/S and PC were already confirmed by remedy and rockstar
@@chinua14 those are very good news
@@mafia2boy33 It's in very early development so it won't be out for a good while. It will be remade in Northlight, Remedy's in-house engine so it will probably look as fantastic as Control
@@superwhizz114it's okay , they can take all their time remaking these games if that means we will get a better remake unlike the remake of gta games
The trigger effects have been added as well as the updated haptic feedback.
“Oh no our company’s reputation has been destroyed because our boss is a narcissistic sociopath who panders to a snake oil salesman at the expense of his hard-working and passionate employees, what do we do???”
Obviously this new version looks amazing with all the hi-res textures and modern lighting, etc. But the original still looks good. I just can't help but think Naughty Dog and Sony are feeding into the types of fans who only think about a game's quality in terms of graphics.
Console exclusivity is useless at this point, consoles are around PC grade performance. They should've released the remake on PC instead and make waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more money!
Like the video has said, it looks good on your twitter post
lol
The original still looks good? Lmfao no, it’s look outdated actually. The only good about this game is pre rendered cutscenes. Even zombie animations and gore system look wayyy worse than Left 4 Dead, a game that was released 5 years before of this game.
Graphics absolutely matter In games lmao
I don’t care how flashy you make the visuals...I’m not paying 70 dollars for a remake of a 9 year old game that already got a remake AND it removed multiplayer
Joel w the shades smiling lmao
I remember fondly beating this game on the ps4 on a melee only run on the hardest difficulty (except for when the game forces you to use guns)
Can it really be called melee only then? :P
I kid, you probably can't get enemies to infight as much as in Doom.
They’ve only released the same game 3 times and yet the character models all look like they’ve aged a few years.
That or they’re all extremely tired of this trend.
I couldn't care less about this remake, but your humour always manages to pull me in, love it!
Nothing like a well-timed fart noise or Tourettes Guy soundbite
I'm done with lame remakes bro /=
@@Jasm783 then don’t buy them 🤣🤦♂️ no ones forcing you to
@@alexjohnson439 of course I'm not gonna buy them unless they were fantastic 😂
@@Jasm783 then why are you here complaining about not wanting to purchase the game 🤣🤦♂️ and the fact that the game already has amazing reviews and is out of stock even though it released just last night proves you wrong
Hey gman, where is your rune PC game review, I saw it when it came out, now I cannot find it on TH-cam.
Anyone know the movie from the scene at 15:56 with Leslie Nielsen?
Financial District made you feel like a boss on grounded undetected. Some of my favourite memories of the game in that part incredible game!
Not sold on this remake to old players. I still have my PS3 and am well happy with that. I will wait till this comes to PC 😂
Yeah :)
PC is where it would shine. Frame rate and resolution, not one or the other.
I was really hoping they would include the prone mechanic from Part 2. Sure, it might've broken some of the level designs, but I thought if Naughty Dog was really doing a "remake" they would've adjusted the encounters to perfectly balance the mechanics, thus justifying the price tag. The game has to be there for the HBO show, so when people finally see it, they'll pick up the game.
It's certainly there for newer players and the die hard fans, the price is an issue that keeps being brought up and in comparisons to other remakes it can be seen as a steep price however it's clear lots of work has gone into the game and there's no question that paying the money for it if you haven't played it is certainly worth it.
Man TLOU is so poor when it comes to gameplay to the point where being able to prone is a big deal
@@SchradeDemise Imagine saying the gameplay is poor. Actual braindead take.
@@Quazzi. Good paypig....
@@dragonbornexpress5650 enjoy life man, get the things you want and you might not be upset 24/7
Question is do we get to keep the machine in end now ?
With that shelf shot you reminded me of a game I'd love to see you cover: from Russia with love.
Unpopular opinion but it's my favourite James bond game.
The editing on this was incredibly on point!
I honestly can't see much difference between the PS4 remaster and this remake.
Even the original still holds up. That's a testament to ND's design team and it show how strong the vision for this game was.
Now tell me Mr. Jakub you want more remasters or new games?
I got the ps4 disc version so if I ever feel like replaying it I just boot it up on my ps5. The 2014 game still looks great, maybe not as good as the remake but it’s still visually holds up. Not to mention 60fps, for some reason the remake can’t even handle 60 at 4K.
Yo Gman, how do you get the graphics to look so pretty on those resident evil remakes? Anywhere (else) I see them, they look more or less washed out, but in your footage the colors are spot on.
Thx for the vid, watched a play through for ps3 and then was supper excited for it's remaster for ps4.. Though unsure if its been mentioned the wood planks and "rafts" for ellie, were hidden loading screens... Something not needed in a stronger console. That and yes the promise of a remake you would think they would of fixed the horrible parts of the game and gave it a better option.. such as the upsidedown bit.. they could of had player control dictate if you got trapped or not, for those on their first playthrough it will happen to em but those who new would find say "hey i can cut the rope to prevent the trap", we know the story it's not a requirement we have to do it again. but none the less thank you for playing the game I was wondering if it was something i was missing and as someone who has done two playthroughs i dont feel i need the 3rd... brand new price tag is dumb that is a unanimous thought..
The fact I couldn't tell the difference between old and remake footage is amazing.
Are you joking? The remake looks completely different, especially in terms of lighting.
I know that's supposed to be a dig at the game, but that is just completely wrong. You must be blind if you can't tell the difference
You are blind then. Only thing bad about this is the pricing.
@@akuisbestgirl2448 He’s just trying to needlessly shit on the game, but real talk though: the ps3 still actually looks good…for ps3 standards. The character models still hold up, and the environments are well made, but the really low ps3 resolution and the painful lack of anti-aliasing age it considerably. All the ps4 version did was fix those issues, and it still looks good today. The remake (while stupidly overpriced) looks honestly photorealistic sometimes
@@steviemcdonut Yeah, Naughty Dogs are always innovators when it comes to graphics, cinematics and presentation. Every game they've made has usually been the best looking game of it's generation. This guy is just blatantly making stuff up to try and shit on the game, when in reality, he's only doing it because the game is expensive. I bet if the game wasn't full price, the criticism would be non-existent
Last Of Us to me has been In the “one and done” category, I’ve gone back and played it multiple times but I don’t get the same feeling from it like the first time. Beautiful game I hope people who haven’t played it before enjoy it.
If you've played it multiple times that's the opposite of a 'one and done' by definition.
@@captainjazzman when I say multiple times I really mean I replayed certain sections over and over. Actually making it through the whole game I can never seem to do.
@@Kaitekae fax
That intro though 🤣🔥
It's so obvious they're trying to make up for Last of Us 2 bombing so hard and trying to re-capture nostalgia for how great the 1st one was. "Hey kids! remember when we made Last of Us?! Remember how good it was? Give us more money please!"
This and getting the new hires they have adjusted to the naughty dog design by doing a easy touch up port
just remember that motorstorm, patapon 3, and freedom wars don't have any remakes or remasters but tlou has two
Man, I loved having the AI guard in a Freedom Wars where it would add decades to your sentence for doing literally anything until you got some levels, such a funny feature, and solid hunteresque game play too
Yep, and the Resistance trilogy is still languishing on PS3, along with MGS4 :(
The comparison to Schindlers List and Requiem for a Dream is perfect, especially for the people that have watched these movies. Its so emotionally heavy that replaying it won't give that feeling again, but also its so intense that the satisfaction of finishing the level or area, is not the same the second time.
Grave of the Fireflies say hi (and cry).
Yup. Spot on. I always use Hereditary as an example. Excellent film, don't wanna watch it again lol
TLOU feels more like a movie anyway so not exactly addicting gameplay that will keep you coming back for more although I've know plp that did beat it multiple times
It's funny, because I recently rewatched Schindlers List and I still found it great 🤷♂
Yeah, right. Because Schindler's List and Requiem For A Dream were both just packed full of people going around a blowing limbs off of bad guys with shotguns.
What utter rubbish! It's a silly comparison to somehow justify another AAA games company "cash grab" where they just create a "jigsaw puzzle" of disparate elements purely for profit - "a dab of social commentary here, a bit of artistic flare over there ... and don't forget to let the player blow off a few arms and legs in the process".
The games creation equivalent of "painting by numbers".
@@phaolo6 That's not the point. It's a heavy movie so you ain't gonna watch it every month or something
is this worth it for when it comes to pc? I've never played any of the games
This honestly makes me want to play the ps3 version again. It's crazy how they released that on PS3 the same year the PS4 came out.
Yeah I'm surprised they didn't rework it into a launch title or something.. I played it through on the PS3 for my first time just recently (I wanted to get the classic experience) and it still holds up incredibly well today. Just looks a bit rough at 720p :P
That intro cutscene you chose, pretty much summed my thoughts up. Can't really say if it's worth it for a seasoned player of the game, but you can't deny the view. Had they included prone and dodge mechanics like in Part 2 that would've been a game changer. I mean they already had to build everything from the ground up, so why not use the opportunity to really beef up the experience. TLOU Remaster on PS4 already looked and ran great, and never during my time with that did I think it needed a true remaster. So I'd much rather have another spin-off one shot adventure maybe about Tommy's time with the Fireflies or finally that long-awaited TLOU 2 Factions Multiplayer.
We already had it remastered back in 2014.
Agreed with your points. I feel that the two main issues with this game are both the price and the false advertisement. I don't think anyone with more than 20 years of experience playing games or anyone familiar with game development will deny that this is essentially a copy paste of the skeleton of the original game (level geometry, animations and the original's voices and acting) except with new visual assets and a couple of bells and whistles. This is definitely more of a remaster than a remake. If it were a remake then why werent the actual gameplay improvemets from TLOU2 added here while they were "rebuilding the game from the ground up"? I think we all know the answer is simply because the game itself wasn't actually rebuilt from he ground up.
I'd probably check this out if it was priced more fairly and actually advertised for what it is, and what it is is a game from 2013 with a new coat of paint. It also doesn't help that this kind of gameplay isn't very replayable to me and instead of taking the opportunity to make it a repayable experience, they just didn't, so I'll live without it.
The full price is crazy. You don't have to make game from ground up. Whole story is there, you don't need new writers, script, voice acting are done too. It is unjustified to charge full price.