How Magneto became the God of Marvel vs Capcom 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- We're back with another Marvel vs Capcom 2 character overview video! Today we're going to be talking about Magneto, running through his famous Rom infinite, and various strategies top players use to dominate tournaments with him!
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Which character do you want me to do next??
Maybe talk about a low tier like Hayato
I'd like Storm, probably.
Strider Doom please
I would say Strider and his trap, BlackHeart, and the best characters Servbot and R-/ PPFFFFHAHAHAHAHA I can’t say those last two with a straight face. But yeah Strider and Blackheart.
Doom or Storm!!
I feel part of the charm is the fact that these old fighting games where he's in remember that his power is over the Electromagnetic _Spectrum,_ not just Ferromagnetism. Hence the lasers and other fun techniques he uses.
wish forcefield was a stronger move in 2 and 3 especially the assist
*sudden image of Magneto broadcasting propaganda on peoples' CB radios*
He is on the Autism spectrum
And those ballet kicks he does
@@Sam-kn2dw uh...you ok there, Buddy? Are you running low on meds? Your eggs Benedict done turned traitor?
Reasons why Magneto it broken:
*Me:* "Controls one of the fundamental forces of the universe?"
*Jmcrofts:* "1-frame low. 🐸☕"
Are you implying that low hitting attacks are not a fundamental universal force
I think we underestimate the power of a 1 frame low
You could say something very similar about Capcom's game-design choices. "The middle-aged guy who's mostly known for the ability to control magnetic fields with his mind? We'll definitely need to give him a one-frame crouching kick."
Both statements are correct though.
@@OldPatheticOne The fun of old fighting games is there are constantly insane decisions/non decisions and you are left with no patching to wonder forever what the fuck they were thinking.
Dude, I could watch character breakdowns forever, do 'em all for every game. I am here for it.
No joke!
I want to see him do SFII
You forget his most god like figure. His voice. The 1st timed you heard "Play time has ended." He meant that.
im an old retired mvc2 player, but would love to see a history of the game from release and the arrival and discovery of all the top teams and strategies. Always one of the classic games of all time. Keep up the great work!
cringe
Used to leave this game running overnight to build up store points for chars lmao how my ps2 survived I’ll never know
I never understood why they decided to make an old man the FASTEST character in the game. I remember trying to walk with him in X-Men 2 the Clone Wars and it was like watching a turtle crawl uphill!
Kinda how sigma is the buffest human in overwatch besides rein when he literally floats 100% of the time & is also old
Had to stop at 14:23 cause the music in the background hit me with a wave of nostalgia so strong i damn near shed a tear. This game was my freakin childhood man Marvel will always hold a special place in my heart.
Keep up the great work
Any character that does the Bruce Lee shadow arms thing , automatically is gonna be op
Right 😂
That double snap is the most evil thing I've seen in all of MVC2
The first most fearsome MVC2 character. When someone challenges you with this character back in the day, you'll feel you're doomed! lol 😁
Yoo I love watching your matches!
@@jmcrofts Ohh woow! Thank you! I love your DBZ and MVC2 contents as well! We hope you can feature and try more low/mid tiers chars! 😁
@@AnakarisCurse idol!
@@pinoymetal420 oiii 😁
I remember when my first time PvP on MvC2. He uses magneto, psylocke and storm and i was speechless when he did an infinite using magneto alone. I just watch my 3 characters getting bodied.
0 frame moves exist. They’re usually supers. The move comes out before the opponent can do anything. So if a moves even minus 1 it’s punishable. The easiest examples I can think of is Phoenix Wrights Level 3 and most heavy supers in Garou mark of the wolves.
I'm pretty sure Cable's hyper viper is a 0 frame move too
@@djbubblegum9975 because of the way we counted frames back then it’s called a 1 frame move. Nowadays you would say a 0 frame move. It hits on frame 1, Magneto’s cr lk has 0 startup frames
throws in gg:xx too
In hftf jotaros air super is f0
King's neo max super in KOF 13 is the forbidden cross up
5:00 - I love how even though Magneto's doing all the crazy combos, it's Cable who' s out of breath
Magneto lives in my nightmares.
You could see the pure concentration in his eyes, during that first infinite combo 😂
that infinite doesn’t fuck around, the amount of precision and execution required can’t even be put into words it’s so difficult, serious props to jmcrofts for doing the whole infinite just to demonstrate the undizzy mechanic
A tip for you, always try to roll away even after getting hit by psylocke assist or throw so when opponent misses the otg on the last possible frame you will roll and recover. 11:14 & 12:14 are examples where you are actually safe if you tried to roll. Also, when playing as sentinel against magneto dashing in, try to first block high, then low and then immediately jump. This prevents magneto from doing a dash in jumping hk + assist combo since you are blocking high. Even if magneto does dash in crouching lk, you have super armor that prevents you from getting hit stun on the first light attack. And then immediately block low, timed it so that if the follow up from c.lk into cmk doesn't connect. After c.mk magneto will no longer be able to cancel into other normals and will most likely either call an assist to cover him to continue pressure, block or tries to tri jump you. You are basically safe after blocking the the c.mk since you can counter call an assist if he calls his to break his rush down momentum or you can just jump backwards if he blocks or tries to tri jump you. This blocking sequence nullify alot of magneto's rushdown options, apart from Yipes and Khaos, most other magneto players have problem dealing with sentinels. Which is why magneto is ranked below storm and sentinel. Lastly, try to push block as much as possible.
I remember getting bodied by mags players at the arcade back in the day. Never had the execution skills to keep up. You're a good sport dude.
I'm gonna use this early comment to tell you how much I appreciate these videos. This is great for someone who is just getting into this game, like me. Plus they're just entertaining as hell. I'd love to see more of this.
rip, i lost my comment heart after editing the comment
nvm :D
Same, i'd love to see more.
Hes probably more oppressive then storm but getting smashed by him is even cool
people forget he was a boss char at one point
He’s hard af on COTA lmfao like no bs no lie? He prolly the hardest boss to fight in all of the marvel games 💯💯💯
Great analysis, but just to add a couple more generic points, Magneto is top tier also because:
1. He has a relatively easy to do semi-infinite chaining Magnetic Tempest repeatedly. It has so many hits that even with damage scaling maxed out it still does a decent amount of damage and can usually kill someone by the third loop.
2. Unlike say Strider/Doom/Blackheart, Magneto works well with almost anyone, whether he's on point or as an assist. You have a lot of freedom with your team composition, and you'd rarely have a completely bad combination.
3. Magneto has fairly easy and safe ways to tag out and heal without using meter, the easiest being his throw.
4. His assists are also really good, apart from the projectile one, which is OK but nothing special. The launcher assist is super fast, while Hyper Gravitation keeps up constant pressure for you to maintain your offensive. All it takes is either connecting once, and you'd have your opponent wide open. Plus the positioning of Hyper Grav assist is fairly safe since he hangs back at the edge of your corner, so it's not easy for someone without beams to punish without having to deal with you first.
I looked up "reset" in the dictionary, and it just shows a picture of Skullgirls.
Thats one way to see it
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Skullgirls has an infinite prevention system where if you do certain normals in a combo again, you are able to break out of it. However, you can actually bait that shit into another combo.
Reset.
Oh, you mean Eight-Way Dash? He was my favourite Function! I'm so happy he made the cut in Infinite!
Loving these MVC2 videos. Just go into playing it.
What are you using to play this? Want to get back to play mahvel, but don’t know how to do it.
@@justarandominternetdude2579 There are many ways, but Null DC Bear is probably the best way. That's how jmcrofts is playing it. There are many tutorials on how to set it up online. If you need a link I can give you the vid that I used to set it up.
@@ramiabdalla2661 does that work on macs?
@@justarandominternetdude2579 sorry for the late response, but sadly, I don't think so
another option is fightcade, i think that works on mac, there are hundreds of tutorials for that too
Loving the content, you even got me and the homie playing again for this first time in years! Bear is awesome.
I’m so lucky that TH-cam managed to find a deep rooted core memory from me as a kid. Love this channel and character breakdowns
Looks like you improved on the infinite alot since that video you made along time ago. I remember posting some some tips on your old video when you wanted to learn it along time ago... great work! =D I like you mentioned how deadly his snap is (that's what's most scary about him imo) alot of people over look something so simple but so amazingly deadly and something that single handedly let's him surgically tear teams apart.
this was the pain of MSP = Magneto+Storm+Psylocke
of every tournament you would play in and see
Or mss
everytime I see the double snap I can hear YIPES going "OH OH OH OH OH OH OH"
great content man, keep up the good work. Long time fighter fan, especially Cap vs SNK 2 and MVC2 and I could watch these vids for hours.
Love these breakdowns and would love to see other fighting games to in future. Keep it up :)
It's detailed stuff like this that lets me enjoy and understand fighting games despite being garbage at playing them.
Just discovered your channel. Loving everything I've seen so far. Thanks for covering this.
I actually liked this video, very informative and it's nicely paced and explained, too. Almost makes me want to try playing him.
15:52 I almost cried for you on this one!! You were THAT close!! 😭😭😭
You're doing a great job with these videos keep em coming
Keep these breakdowns coming bro!
I NEED THIS GAME AGAIN. I USED TO ENTER TOURNAMENTS BACK IN THE EARLY 2000s. SO NOSTALGIC AND WITHOUT A DOUBT MY FAVORITE GAME OF ALL TIME💯
Love these, Mr Jmcrofts!
This was my shit when I spent most of the day at TILT PLAY8NG THIS GAME
You should do a video focusing just on assists. It could be something like how to time them, what are some other A tier and lower assists that are playable, maybe do some teams with assists and explain some specific counter-picks. Idk something to that nature would be cool, its open to suggestions. I know this information is probably somewhere else if he hasnt already done it but I would like to hear it from jmcrofts
Great Info on Magneto. I may need to learn him as well!
Thanks for the marvel 2 stuff. Man. Keep em coming please. I just got into the game on Dreamcast.
I think you mean how mag-freaking-neto got that curly mustache
Wish you would have made it a little longer and gone into the history of Magneto in teams from the beginning and how he evolved when people figured out how good he is with psylocke assist. Id like to hear more history about how team compositions evolved over time
My friend watches you as well so It was fun cheesing him with magneto while it lasted
His hands movment while standing mixes you up
I had no idea about the starting frame data! All I know is that Sabertooth is my main character and I start all of my matches with that lightkick and regularly got the first hit even against players far better than me! What an awesome revelation!
I agree with all your points, but the matches demonstrates one of his other strengths: the air-to-ground combo that ends with FP, FP, RH, RH. That does a huge chunk of damage!!
Such a great series. Simple but very watchable
I'm early to love on that fine skull of yours, jm
I have no idea what this means but I support it.
@@emeraldmann1329 his head
This senior citizen able to throw hands
Hey man! New to you and these videos. For some reason I’ve been getting into SF content again and leaving towards the games. So silly question (perhaps) are you emulating the game or playing on a ps2?
Hi JM! Great video as always. If I could give one suggestion for your videos, it will be to get an intro animation/music. It will hype the video a lot and look cool af. Have a good day!
you earn these likes & subs, keep up the good work bro
Love these vids
Just started watching your videos, man. You kick ass!
5:18 Magneto's grab on cable is just CBT
Oh man. MVC 1&2 are my jam
Appreciate the tutorial aspect
I love videos like this. Please do more of the MVC2 cast. Would like to see what Sabretooth was about
Im so glad people still love this game I hope capcom and disney marvel can collaborate to re release. To newer systems.
Top quality work👍🏿
Nice video!
One big thing you missed about Magneto is the fact he can cause untechable hard knockdowns using the flying screen glitch. If you do the 5 fierce combo with him they cant roll out of it and it takes a ton of damage. If you end it early though, they cant tech and they wake up in a really predictable way and have to take another mixup. And thats how the Yipes vortex was born.
I started playing MvC2 after watching this when it first came out and it’s now my favorite fighting game. This game is awesome I hope they bring it back.
Tried CvS2 as well but I’m terrible and don’t understand what I’m doing lol
Keep doing this videos they are awesome
It’s always a pleasure listening to someone that knows what they’re talking about 😉👌
"Theres no such thing as a 0-frame move"
And then one game and one upgrade later we get Phoenix Wright
love your content, guy
These games are my introduction to Marvel characters. I more so grew up with the Rockman series and street fighter I guess, but I never figured out that magneto in MVC2 was the one Sir Ian Mcellan played. I just couldn’t suss out his mutant power from MVC2.
Magneto is so fun to play. He's so difficult to master too.
I didn’t realize how good he was until I saw the Double Snap portion. I don’t fear much but that.... that scares me.
MAG-F-NEETO!
OH HE'S SO PRINGLES WHERE YO CURLEY MOUSTACHE AT!
OH! OH! OH! OH! OH! OH! OH! OH!
FUCK DA KNICKS!
as a quick note, from what i remember sent has a way of beating magneto's switch glitch c.lk. Switch glitch sent's s. lk which will come out after mag's normal, but sent will absorb the hit with super armor, and then snapback right away i think beats magneto's c.lk lk +psy AA
I literally have never touched this game, why am I addicted to watching this channel
hey man your awesome,thanx for your knowledge.
rogue also has an amazing combo due to her air flying abilities. jump behind opponent and attack faster than they can block.
Had to sub for the sweet mvc2 content
Magneto's idle in this game resembles Algol in soul calibur... But i guess it's all the way round since marvel vs capcom is older
11:12 Thanks to this video now i know why you did a low block and he instead went for a high lol. He exactly knew that you were going for that so he took the opportunity to cross.
I liked MvC2 back in the arcade days before all of the infinite combos were discovered
It really was a magical time. I remember Iceman being confidently hailed as the first god tier because he didn't take chip from most projectiles and had a decent keepaway game(not to mention a devastating super). Iron Man and Warmachine got so much mileage off of repulsor blast assist and photon cannon alone, since they set up for and capitalized so well on pretty much everything. The one thing that stood out very quickly was that way too many iconic characters were practically unplayable because of their godawful health pools.
Damn watching you play against that guy and how you just marveled (no pun intended) at his skill and talents was nice to see
There are times where I play someone in a fighting game and see them doing stuff I never knew possible and it’s almost like watching poetry in motion the kinda mastery they have over whatever it is be it game, sports,
I did not know about the switch glitch. More than twenty years later I'm still learning things about this game.
Bro pleaaaase keep doing these Mahvel character videos. I'm garabage at the game but I love learning all the ins and outs
Loving the Marvel content JM! Keep it coming!:D
what about curly mustache
Came to comment this too.
For a lot of ppl I bet that’s gonna go right over their head lol f yo curly mustache 😂 pop off Pringle
Lies Cable will forever be the GOAT of this game nobody kills the 3 bosses as smooth as he does
Some say it might be romneto, most helpful marvel 2 channel with the most combo showcases and matches
I definitely see where skullgirls got alot of it's inspiration from now, great video.
12:03 magnetos twin brother just hops in the battle outa nowhere illusionist style
just 3 things
ROM inf has a lot of variants. Just depends on how fast you can confirm the hits and how far off the ground mag is
Both Ice Grab and Hypergrab can be mashed out. Sentinel has a hard time getting out cause he's a big body from Hypergrab x Tempest.
I was about to say Blackheart can beat Mag’s start, but it turns out it’s only 2 frames and I’ve been using his start to beat everyone BUT Mags.
#8: Scoops. Scoops Häagen-Dazs.
I love the mvc2 stuff you deliver. I just hope you do Tekken too, coz that's the fighting game i played the most. Pretty sure a lot of folks here will love Tekken content.
You're already at 200K, Chap.
I'm surprised you didn't mention that Magneto was a boss in a previous version, so it's likely he kept some of his boss coding, I could be wrong, fighting game bosses are always fair and balanced right?
I’m super late to the party but I’m getting interested in the classic FGC games. I got into SF 3rd Strike last year and now I’m learning about this. I wish I cared about them when they are at their peak, these games look sick. I’m also a sucker for pixel art
Speaking of mega man, sentinel trap, doom blackheart storm trap. Also mags has a magnetic tempest one hit trap with psy, guaranteed hit. Love the content! What's your bear graphic setup also jm? Thx
Hey @jmcrofts big fan of the channel! Love your content! Can i ask for a favor? Can you provide a link where i can download an emulator that runs mvc2 along with the rom? i tried but had no luck.... I really wanna play it but i can't figure it out
you can actually mash out of the magnetic grab/magnetic tempest, its just insanely hard to do.