The Ultimate Digital Rig? - Valeton GP200
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- The Ultimate digital rig? - Valeton GP200. The Valeton GP200 is only £300 as is crammed with incredible features. It has 64 banks of 4 presets, so that's 256 presets in total! It's incredibly easy to adjust every element of each preset and the UI is extremely intuitive. We've use the Valteon GP200 live, and in several videos now and it has sounded amazing throughout.
Considering I really don't like this sort of thing, I can see myself using this whenever I leave the studio in future as it's so small and easy to get a great sound out of.
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I’ve had one for a few months now and am generally pleased with it. One bit of advice if you buy one: before you start dialing in the EQ of various patches, switch off the cabinet modeler and just use your actual speaker cabinet. Then, switching through various amp models with the amp EQs set flat, adjust the global EQ so that it sounds good. Once that is done, then start using the various cabinet models and dial in the EQ using the amp or equalizer settings you want. The global EQ has MUCH more effect on the output than the other EQs so this puts yup in a good place before you get started. I didnt realize this and set up all kinds of different patches that all needed to be redone once the global EQ was set.
Nice tip mate, thank you
Great advice brother. Thanks for this.
When it comes to price to performance, accessibility, functionality and ease of use I chose this over about 25 other similar multi-effects units I spent 60+ hours watching videos and doing research on them all and I'm very happy with my purchase.😊
So you'd pick this, over the HX Stomp? ( even long term with software updates ) ? Appreciate any input.
@@michael_caz_nyc I decided to keep the GP200. I haven't tried the HX stomp but I did try the Helix software a few years ago. Leo Gibson has a great video on the GP200 vs the HX Stomp might help you out.
@@michael_caz_nycI have not tried the HX stomp so I can't say.
What about the Nux MG 30?
@@pauledwinjoshua2371 this was actually on my radar as well and I came very close to getting that over the gp200 however I have not tried it personally so I don't have an opinion as far as hands on yet
I bought one based on this video, I’ve had modellers and FRFR speakers before and never really gel’d with it so sold them. The GP-200 Sounds great in the return of my Marshall tube amp. Also works really well with the 4 cable method with a bit of adjustment with the Valeton’s send and return levels. Good stuff.
Got one a year ago, amazing value for the money. i use it for heavy, heavy distortion in drop G, sounds amazing!
I’ve just taken delivery of one after doing my research.great video.
I liked this review… good information without endless tutorial details
I bought one a few weeks ago, just to have something with a looper to jam with. Man, I was suprised,. great sounds and indeed so easy to use.
Have you already tried the drum machine?
@@rolandosanchez8226 yes, it's basic. I also have a beatbuddy that sounds better, for just a jam its great.
I've had one for a while but not for gigging, it's replaced the two amp I had at home to save space more than anything. But after trying a few others I totally agree the Valeton is really easy to use and it is just unreal value for what it is.
Great video. I’m buying on this week.
Good review!
Thank you
I got one. Had a big pedal board and half stack (peavey Windsor) and this thing is just great. I have abnormally wide feet, so I use a pedal switcher with a midi out (joyo pxl live), and use that for main switching, and then the third along the top row with a pedal button on , for clean/dirty within a patch. I use the Pete thorn SUHR IR and it’s just perfection. Can’t recommend it enough.
I've had one of these for about a year now. For the price, I think its unbeatable. Like you, I use it Live straight into the PA its a brilliant little box of tricks and no need to lug big amps around anymore. You should share some of the presets you build. There is a big Valeton community/following out there who would love to see more on this. Great work.
Di - dark sound
Sm58 - brilliant sound
I like the ease of uploading patches and saving patches on the computer.
Sounds good bro
I hear ya mate. I've never been so impressed with any modeller before as I am with the GP-200. IT KICKS ARSE straight outa the box, and pisses all over it's more expensive competitors. The price for what you get is outstanding. I trust it to use live also.
It's an amazing live rig. You can modify it exactly how you want. Recently I played a gig with 12 different songs and 12 different presets. It's crazy that it actually allows you to do "live guitar mixing".
I picked up one 6 months ago and added the boss DD200 so I could stack distortion, I haven't used any of my pedals since.
Hiya, had my GP200 a year excellent value and performance, I use mine into 2 amps for the stereo wet/dry on stage and send the Xlr,s front of house for the PA mix. Note you can go into the Global settings to alter the EQ outputs Xlr,s etc.
Also though the quick access on the unit is very good, when you have the time to set it up for say a gig? connect your laptop to it, it is so much easier and you could program a whole set list into it, save all your set lists to your laptop then reload them in the future. Apart from my Les Paul best thing i vere got.
Note use the FX loop in it and put in your own pedals. Good luck izzy
I'm doing this into a peavey jsx and i'm struggling with feedback, having a good tight yet saturated gain blend and there's always this zappy characteristic i can't dial out. Mono out. Gotta have the eq off after 2k up.
Wait until you get into the stompbox mode and configure the footswitches as you liking...😁
Hey! If you use the left mono output to a mixer would it sound better than the XLR di?
And the PC interface is amazing. Keep it on the floor and FIddle with all of the virtual pedals on the computer.
And you can back up all the settings and re-load them if somehow it wiped.
I own it and I agree with you on everything.
I have a question for the experts in the comments. Let me start by saying I've been playing with the Valeton in multiple gigs now and I studio session and I absolutely love it! However, do any of you know if the volume, gain, presence, bass, mid, and treble are global knobs that affect every preset?
yes but how is its virtual capo quality?
I just bought it. I want to have it as a back up system and exercising at home. I agree, it takes not too much time to get used to it. For exercising it also has a drum computer build in, which is good for exercising with a metronome or drums. The price ist very competetive in Germany it costs 349,- Euro. The sounds have to be adjusted a little bit on my opinion. Here it would be great if you would give informations about your settings 🙂 You encouraged me now to keep it and not looking for another one 🤪
1:39 if you use the global eq in the settings you can adjust the overall low end of the rig. Hope that helps. ☺️
Thanks.. I just got one & trying to set it up.
What brand or type of speaker is in that cab
I actually preferred the DI better. A bit more on the raw open end sound which would be heard more in the mix IMO.
Would you still recommend one of these? I used to use the Boss GT8 for years and years, then moved to the Avid 11 rack. Now looking for something new but not too expensive. Thanks for any input.... Cheers Jake
Was considering thw valeton gp200 and a headrush frfr..maybe use latter as monitor at stage volume and di out to front of house? What are your thoughts?
Great informative video.. new subscriber here..
That’s exactly how I use mine headrush 108 as my guitar stage monitor and direct to PA for front of house you so get some funny looks when you rock up with hardly any gear
With the added control switching from the last firmware update, this thing is almost unbeatable!!
Mate, this sounds epic. What does it do? I’ll have to do an update but need to back everything up as it took me ages to dial it all in
@@PherotoneStudios You get to use all 8 switches as control to turn on/off pedals!!! It was only 4 before the update. They also added a freeze effect which is pretty cool. And something close to that digitech dive pedal... i forget its name, i don't really care for it too much but I think others liked it!
That’s seriously handy. Guessing you can still click across to the next preset?
Yes sir!! It's cool because they are double function switches. You can set the momentary click for one thing and the press and hold for a different function. I do this with mine. I have the footswitches 1-6 as stomp on /off for effects. Then 1-4 are set to change patches in the current bank with a press and hold. 5 and 6 are set to change banks up/down with the press and hold. It is a VERY, very cool unit!!@@PherotoneStudios
@@PherotoneStudios yes you did, it's split into different kind of click type, tap,hold and pressing both upper and bottom together
im getting one!👍
Wait a second... So the signal that goes in FX return ends up cabsimed twice - one from the patch, another from the amp's own cab ? Or there is a way to switch cabsim off for nonbalanced outs but keep it on for XLR ?
Existe sim .lá no global vc deixa o R mono desligado e o R stereo ligado ou seja ligado para não ligar Ir nessa entrada
I just ordered one of these for personal use after recently setting up a Headrush MX5 for my church and trying to find something similar yet more budget-friendly.
I had a similar thought about the cab sim. I suspect that the reason he preferred the mic'd amp cab to the DI is that he may not have been using a cab sim or IR on the DI signal. At least that's what it sounded like to me.
I would imagine that if he was using a cab sim in the signal chain, it would have resulted in a cab into a cab, which I've heard is a bad idea. It probably wouldn't have sounded better mic'd than through the DI recording in that case.
Can just the effects be used live, bypassing the amps and cab sims? I’d like to use one with a real amp & cab.
Yep. I’ve used it like that
Are you running it through a normal cab?
The inexpensive GP100 sounds great. My Helix, Tonex and Axe take a back seat. Still IR makes the day.
This is still the best £300 multi effect pedal so far.
I love my gp200 I bought it to do live shows with a powered monitor for stage volume and run to front of house for guitar or bass I created Riggs for either great investment I also bought a hard case for mine like a pelican case knock off from harbor freight
Is he gonna use this on the road wit the Script? ty 4 vid
Hey are you disabling the IR block when going through the real cab? I think that's why you're getting the weird tone difference, the IR should be off in that scenario.
I don’t think I am. How do I do that?
I have two banks of the same four settings now, 4 with the cab and 4 without, but not sure if that’s quite right either.
Sounds great through an amp though 😂
when you turn the cab off in the chain you are disabling the IR. You can load in like 20 of your own IRs too which sound even better than the built in ones. Apparently you can also assign one output to have an IR and one without simultaneously, so you can run to an FRFR cab or amp/cab and into the desk at the same time. I couldn't get it to work on mine though, it kept crashing and losing all sound...
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is it possible to make a strymon bigsky sounding tone with this unit?
I still don't understand most of all the settings, and i have no clue what most of this effects are doing... i also just started learning guitar 1,5 years ago...
BUT i am so happy that i bought this thing.
The looper is a great learning tool.
It is the most bang for the money
Sir, I want to take new processor,, it will be good to take any processor Boos GT 100 or gp 200 Which one would be better
Valeton GP200 amp modelling is much better than the Boss GX100.
Bro any update? i'm also looking on both GT100 and GP200.
@@lieong get the GP 200
Psst... Only £236 / 279€ on Amazon for Black Friday. Crazy what you can get for that money.
Already! this time I got it... I haven't tried it yet but I can't wait
Yep I got one after watching this video..£236. Very impressed with it.
7:46 there's a problem with the board settings when going into a board, the mids or db's don't match the same as an amp.
I'm dealing with that with the church's helix. Which i dislike anyway
Whats the guitar? Its sick!
That’s a kit from Crimson Guitars which I built there. Such a beauty
@@PherotoneStudios It's certainly a beat! Out of curiosity, how difficult was the build - thinking in terms of someone with limited experience with very basic woodworking?
If you went to Crimson and did it, really easy as they help you. Without much experience you could do an ok job if you take your time
My Valeton is so dark sounding. My single coil sounds like humbucker
What's interesting is that once you mic your amp......it becomes digital.
The truth is that there is no experience like having that amp in front of you. It's about the feel of the amps that drives you.
But when you hear Van Halen I on your Bluetooth speaker or at a concert during the intermission..........it drives you. But it's digital
Technology has gotten better and it's only getting better. It's BS if you can tell the difference in sound. There are plenty of YT videos that prove this.
I say there are times to use that good ole tube amp and there are times to use that digital processor.
The DI sound worse because it was clipping. Should've ajusted the interface
Sounds great through the amp setup.
Sounds like digitized farting through the DI.
If going into a desk, you could use two connectors to get stereo into the desk. That gives much better sound on chorus, delays and some of the reverbs. 🙂
I bought a GP200R red one a few weeks back. I love it but mine only has 90 seconds / 45 seconds looper time which I need to find out if mine only has half the normal looper memory of maybe I did something wrong when looping that glitched it... 🤔
You've got the correct looper. Setting it to post cuts it to 90s. Also, you need to cut to 45s to enable undo/redo. Check the manual. Some peeps have reported issues with undo/redo, but I lucked out and it works for me.
@@ClNoBody yes thank you for the well written reply I appreciate it.
I did work out after posting my comment how the looper works, the Gp200 operating system is not very clear, you have to "just know" that reducing the record time setting on the GP200 just happens to enable the undo/redo functions.
I did notice the undo/redo can be a little bit fussy depending where in the loop you press the footswitch. Butmother than that it seems to be working fine on my unit. 👍
It's so inexpensive, I'd get a second one as a backup.
save all your presets to a laptop. extra safety. And if you think its easy to set your sound via the unit itself, try it from a laptop. even easier.
Disable the digital amp/cab when running through the amp. If not then you’re basically getting a preamp into a preamp and it will screw up the sound. Conversely, definitely experiment with the amp/cab options when running through the DI, it makes a world of tonal difference. Note: you can also try flattening the EQ on either preamp meaning put the Bass Treble and Middle at 12 o’clock. Remember that 12 o’clock eq is actually the true 0 position.
To digital for me
I bought one of these, I am glad it worked for you, i thought it was a complete bag of nails, the high gain sounds, or lack of them was telling, i thought the modulation was a bit mehh, as was the delay, my old Line6 Pod sounds better than this, this has loads of crunch, but no bite, oh and a noise gate that doesn't really start to work until its near 100%. Maybe it was the stock IR's, but this thing just didn't work for me. at all.
Quad cortex is where it’s at
Between that and a couple of others yes
But for anyone who can’t afford it, that’s a little elitist and irrelevant.
For alot of people the valeton gp200 represents really good value for money and enough to realistically get a career started if thats your intention
For the $, give me an HX Stomp 10/10 over the QC.
@@gdawgs101 still a good choice, but i would argue perhaps the gx100 or gt1000 from boss have better amp models at a similar price. And with helix undoubtedly needing a second version soon - personally i’m waiting.
I think the market is moving too fast to invest in any hardware. Give it another year and we will see qc level modelling/profiling at the 300-600£ mark.
I mean even with just the innovation of NAM.
All these modelers always put a shit tuner in there. Why not do multi-TUNING like a peterson. Tuning option is a total waste cause I still have to line out.
The latency is just too noticeable . No
Matter how many features it has. That’s why it’s cheap .
Stop talking you talk so much
I bought one of these 10 days ago. I've written about 20 different patches already. All sound great. There's just one more thing I need to do but cannot figure out HOW to do it. I would like to assign the CTRL button as a volume Boost. Mind you, I need to keep the ability to use the 4 bottom buttons to select A, B, C, & D in any given bank. Any ideas?
I use the eg pedal as a volume boost. Then when you turn on the EQ, it gets louder
Also.. when it's switched back and forth.. do you have a cab loaded? Or an IR loaded on the board? Something sounds really off about this demo. They're not even close in sound. The 57 track sounds scooped and woofy.. the direct line sound really honky.. mid rangy in an unpleasant way.
You couldn't get a good sound out of the Helix? 😂, yes it takes some learning curve, but with dual cabs now and the latest updates, poly fxs I tried the cheapest ampero and temu "multi fx processor" freaking junk! Always go back to Helix it sounds the same weather I'm in my studio or in stage running FOH and 1/4 out to powered ffr and runs midi to my other pedals, I'll stick to what I know sounds good, and is supported by line 6 and the vast resources of Yamaha their not done with Helix yet I m not either,!
Something is clipping