I always - ALWAYS - learn something helpful to improve my game when viewing a Zach Allen golf video. We're lucky he shares his wisdom and insight on You Tube.
I agree wholeheartedly. And, as a subscriber to Zach's Ballstriking Blueprint and Consistency Code, these separate TH-cam videos make more sense - Zach is consistent in what he is teaching.
Discovering this transformed my swing. Way better compression and consistency now. I try to keep my lead hand "under" the trail hand as long as possible and initiate the take away with my shoulders. A good take away is so important!
Like your videos and instructions, thanks a ton. Leadbeter put the yellow stick by the toes and you have it about 10 inc from it. I have orded the straitaway and i dont want to do it wrong.
Exactly what I've been working on lately, and guess what? As long as I remain focused and follow my routine, my contact is pure, sweet feeling. Now I need to add another 15-20 yards in distance, which may not come because I'm 64 and too old to achieve more distance. Ah youth..
If you take a look at the average lpga distances, 8iron 130. They shoot under par almost every round on tough courses from the white tees. Distance isn’t always the answer to scoring better.
I can achieve by rotating at the top of the backswing,but if I start from the address position and try your method the contact is open clubface.I am missing something.
If I remember correctly Nick Faldo talked (in book or video) at some point about an in between point of deciding he needed to change his swing (prior to starting work with Leadbetter) that he had been trying some advice I think he was given by Mark O'mera. I think O'mera actually encouraged him to rotate his forearms going back (to make the backswing flatter). I think that coupled with the Jack Nickulas leg drive he had at the time led to the arms and club being stuck behind him and passive feeling coming down. When he then remodeled his swing with Leadbetter like you said he kept his club more in front of his chest during his backswing, that in turn kept his arms more in front of his chest throughout the swing as well leading him to no longer get stuck, no longer passively having the arms dragged through, and promoted a more releasing type of feel down and through impact. Going from the bandaid Omera compensation to an almost opposite movement would create a drastically different feel at the time. Faldo has said at times that he's been billed as a technical guy, but has said that the drills he did were to create feelings and sensations he could take to the course. I'd be interested in hearing more theories that you think cause people to get into that bad rotated takeaway position and some more drills to get the club staying in front of the body (without swinging outside and away from the body going back).
unless he really meant arm adbuction/adduction? Pros tend to have feels that are completely different than reality. Then again, he was probably practicing hours on end so might not work for mere mortals. But for some of us it's almost a feeling of counter-rotation to cancel out our ingrained over-rotation. Pretty much delaying rotation until transition where it shallows the club auto-magically. :D That feeling of "greatness" Is still elusive to me but It's getting more frequent so I'm more motivated than ever..
Thing is that if you watch the Faldo/Leadbetter video from that period the takeaway that Leadbetter was teaching was completely not like this (from 10:40 in th-cam.com/video/0ZkUBgvNa10/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PlC-Z0zeBNGIZhSB), Leadbetter has changed his teachings to be more like everyone else teaches now . Also Faldo is a big guy at 6ft, 3 inches (1.91m) and was clearly swinging well within himself with the distances he hit then, which would have very much helped his accuracy. Nobody can play like that nowadays because everyone is hitting so long, everyone is using 'full effort' (as it says in the Stack app). Leadbetter then pushed Faldo to drop his arms even more in the downswing, which led to him hitting it straight left. Have to say I think Leadbetter is overrated.
Does seem like his teachings have changed some over the years. But I think that is true of all teachers myself included. We are constantly polishing learning and evolving. Hopefully for the better.
You're 100% right about Leadbetter getting Faldo to drop his arms down, this happened early '92. Before that time, if you drew a line from the ball to top of backswing position, Faldo's hand path would track along it on the way down. He was never as consistent pulling his arms or when he really tightened up his hips in '94. His pure flushing period was '88-'90 for me. He swung well in '91 but his short game was poor compared to previous seasons.
@@Dkrin28 I'm not confuseing wrist cock with arm rotation ,,, Faldo didn't take it back like u are showing. My mentor Gardner Dickinson and Bob Toski were tournament winners. Gardner worked for Hogan. He shared what Hogan showed him. Hogan didn't do that and he did ok. I'm a retired PGA professional 55 yrs. I enjoy your videos but got to disagree with this take away. Keep up your good work
@@valedwards373 You are correct, I am linking to the Faldo/Leadbetter video in another comment, he completely didn't have a takeaway like Leadbetter is teaching now - Leadbetter teaches a different swing now anyway.
It seems for every bit of golfing advice there is someone doing the exact opposite with success. It can't always be a matter of talent. So with great respect to this channel, look at Tony Finau's golf swing. He looks to be an early rotator of his forearms BUT he keeps his arms in front of his body throughout, therefore not getting stuck.
Would have to kindly disagree. I see these same moves in Finau, but just faster shorter and more athletic swing. He actually reverses it in his waggle even.
Golf is an amazing game. More amazing is the so called "secret(s)" moves or technique to improve. Every day something "new" is "discovered". Endless mumbo jumbo! Learn the fundamentals and practise correctly and you will improve. Learn the "laws" of ball flight to correct any flaw in your swing. I learned to play in my mid fifties (never struck a ball or held a club). Purchase a net, a mat and Leadbetter's book: "The golf swing". Practiced an average of 2 hours every day into the net until I was consistent in making solid contact and the swing action was smooth. Then I started hitting at the range and practicing the short game. I ended up on average 1 to 2 over par, sometimes 1 to 2 under par. I stopped playing because that would be about the best I could achieve without putting in more practise time. That is the great lesson I learned about golf or just about anything you decide to pursue in life.
Good advice, unfortunately most are not going to stick with something that regimented. So they hit the course early and a lot of driver, and bad habits can begin to form.
Good advice, unfortunately most are not going to stick with something that regimented. So they hit the course early and a lot of driver, and bad habits can begin to form.
I hate to say it Zach but you’re not standing correctly with respect to the alignment stick…the stick should be placed adjacent and touching your toe line…you should watch Leadbetter’s video on how to use the tool…thank you
Between you, Zach, and Chuck over at Rotory Swing are hitting it out of the park!!! You two have help me so much! Thank you!!!
Great to hear!
I always - ALWAYS - learn something helpful to improve my game when viewing a Zach Allen golf video. We're lucky he shares his wisdom and insight on You Tube.
Thanks you sir
I agree wholeheartedly. And, as a subscriber to Zach's Ballstriking Blueprint and Consistency Code, these separate TH-cam videos make more sense - Zach is consistent in what he is teaching.
Discovering this transformed my swing. Way better compression and consistency now.
I try to keep my lead hand "under" the trail hand as long as possible and initiate the take away with my shoulders.
A good take away is so important!
So well said.
awesome stuff.....I've worked so much on the first half of the swing that I'm having issues on release and follow through now lol
Like your videos and instructions, thanks a ton. Leadbeter put the yellow stick by the toes and you have it about 10 inc from it. I have orded the straitaway and i dont want to do it wrong.
Thanks for the info!
Excellent
Thanks
Understood…by the way I have purchased your program and think you’re a terrific instructor with great content.😊
Awesome! Thank you!
Exactly what I've been working on lately, and guess what? As long as I remain focused and follow my routine, my contact is pure, sweet feeling. Now I need to add another 15-20 yards in distance, which may not come because I'm 64 and too old to achieve more distance. Ah youth..
If you take a look at the average lpga distances, 8iron 130. They shoot under par almost every round on tough courses from the white tees. Distance isn’t always the answer to scoring better.
I can achieve by rotating at the top of the backswing,but if I start from the address position and try your method the contact is open clubface.I am missing something.
If I remember correctly Nick Faldo talked (in book or video) at some point about an in between point of deciding he needed to change his swing (prior to starting work with Leadbetter) that he had been trying some advice I think he was given by Mark O'mera. I think O'mera actually encouraged him to rotate his forearms going back (to make the backswing flatter). I think that coupled with the Jack Nickulas leg drive he had at the time led to the arms and club being stuck behind him and passive feeling coming down.
When he then remodeled his swing with Leadbetter like you said he kept his club more in front of his chest during his backswing, that in turn kept his arms more in front of his chest throughout the swing as well leading him to no longer get stuck, no longer passively having the arms dragged through, and promoted a more releasing type of feel down and through impact. Going from the bandaid Omera compensation to an almost opposite movement would create a drastically different feel at the time.
Faldo has said at times that he's been billed as a technical guy, but has said that the drills he did were to create feelings and sensations he could take to the course.
I'd be interested in hearing more theories that you think cause people to get into that bad rotated takeaway position and some more drills to get the club staying in front of the body (without swinging outside and away from the body going back).
Great points there. And will try to get some more content in the takeaway out soon. It is so crucial indeed.
Zach- Like the abbreviated drill but what is the look and action at he top of the backswing?-Russ
unless he really meant arm adbuction/adduction? Pros tend to have feels that are completely different than reality. Then again, he was probably practicing hours on end so might not work for mere mortals. But for some of us it's almost a feeling of counter-rotation to cancel out our ingrained over-rotation. Pretty much delaying rotation until transition where it shallows the club auto-magically. :D That feeling of "greatness" Is still elusive to me but It's getting more frequent so I'm more motivated than ever..
You are totally correct about the beginning it might feel counter rotation to some.
Thing is that if you watch the Faldo/Leadbetter video from that period the takeaway that Leadbetter was teaching was completely not like this (from 10:40 in th-cam.com/video/0ZkUBgvNa10/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PlC-Z0zeBNGIZhSB), Leadbetter has changed his teachings to be more like everyone else teaches now . Also Faldo is a big guy at 6ft, 3 inches (1.91m) and was clearly swinging well within himself with the distances he hit then, which would have very much helped his accuracy. Nobody can play like that nowadays because everyone is hitting so long, everyone is using 'full effort' (as it says in the Stack app). Leadbetter then pushed Faldo to drop his arms even more in the downswing, which led to him hitting it straight left. Have to say I think Leadbetter is overrated.
Does seem like his teachings have changed some over the years. But I think that is true of all teachers myself included. We are constantly polishing learning and evolving. Hopefully for the better.
You're 100% right about Leadbetter getting Faldo to drop his arms down, this happened early '92. Before that time, if you drew a line from the ball to top of backswing position, Faldo's hand path would track along it on the way down. He was never as consistent pulling his arms or when he really tightened up his hips in '94. His pure flushing period was '88-'90 for me. He swung well in '91 but his short game was poor compared to previous seasons.
@@jamesthain980 60% of the time I'm always right :-)
@@AndrewDCDrummond When it comes to Faldo's technique and the subtle changes from year to year, even months within years, I back myself.
How do you get the club up to finish your backswing?
Reading the comments, there seems some disagreement between a few on this page,I'm sure if it works for some and manageable it's worthwhile.
Faldo 1 drill was precocking his wrist then swinging. U can't do that without rotating your forearms
I can do it no problem. You are confusing wrist cock and forearm rotation
@@Dkrin28 I'm not confuseing wrist cock with arm rotation ,,, Faldo didn't take it back like u are showing. My mentor Gardner Dickinson and Bob Toski were tournament winners. Gardner worked for Hogan. He shared what Hogan showed him. Hogan didn't do that and he did ok. I'm a retired PGA professional 55 yrs. I enjoy your videos but got to disagree with this take away. Keep up your good work
@@valedwards373 You are correct, I am linking to the Faldo/Leadbetter video in another comment, he completely didn't have a takeaway like Leadbetter is teaching now - Leadbetter teaches a different swing now anyway.
It seems for every bit of golfing advice there is someone doing the exact opposite with success. It can't always be a matter of talent. So with great respect to this channel, look at Tony Finau's golf swing. He looks to be an early rotator of his forearms BUT he keeps his arms in front of his body throughout, therefore not getting stuck.
Would have to kindly disagree. I see these same moves in Finau, but just faster shorter and more athletic swing. He actually reverses it in his waggle even.
@@ZachAllenGolf Sorry, your are correct. I thought he was swivelling his left wrist (and forearm) 90 degrees upon takeaway, but that is not the case.
So good Zach, in the Philippines now but can't wait to get stateside for a lesson.
Great advise. Just curious why you drop the club face out of the plane on the down swing.
Golf is an amazing game. More amazing is the so called "secret(s)" moves or technique to improve. Every day something "new" is "discovered". Endless mumbo jumbo! Learn the fundamentals and practise correctly and you will improve. Learn the "laws" of ball flight to correct any flaw in your swing. I learned to play in my mid fifties (never struck a ball or held a club). Purchase a net, a mat and Leadbetter's book: "The golf swing". Practiced an average of 2 hours every day into the net until I was consistent in making solid contact and the swing action was smooth. Then I started hitting at the range and practicing the short game. I ended up on average 1 to 2 over par, sometimes 1 to 2 under par. I stopped playing because that would be about the best I could achieve without putting in more practise time. That is the great lesson I learned about golf or just about anything you decide to pursue in life.
Good advice, unfortunately most are not going to stick with something that regimented. So they hit the course early and a lot of driver, and bad habits can begin to form.
Good advice, unfortunately most are not going to stick with something that regimented. So they hit the course early and a lot of driver, and bad habits can begin to form.
Would be helpful to understand completing the motion from P2 to P4
I hate to say it Zach but you’re not standing correctly with respect to the alignment stick…the stick should be placed adjacent and touching your toe line…you should watch Leadbetter’s video on how to use the tool…thank you
Honestly I prefer it there, not where he prescribes. Feels like it create more width, and the arms stay in front of the chest better.