new Audi Q8 e-tron vs SQ8 Sportback etron REVEAL - striking back against BMW iX and EQE SUV
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- This is our in-depth review of the new Audi Q8 e-tron vs SQ8 Sportback etron. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and technology.
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00:00 From Audi e-tron to Audi Q8 e-tron
00:44 Changes: 2D Audi rings
01:18 New front light bar
01:48 Better aerodynamics
03:10 Length and new design detail
03:59 Digital camera mirrors
05:24 New rear design
06:33 Interior: doors
07:16 Seats
08:29 New battery kWh sizes
08:53 Electric motors (AWD)
09:05 Audi SQ8 Sportback e-tron
10:48 Fast charging
11:12 Wheel designs
11:51 Light features test in a tunnel
#Audi #AudiQ8etron
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00:00 From Audi e-tron to Audi Q8 e-tron
00:44 Changes: 2D Audi rings
01:18 New front light bar
01:48 Better aerodynamics
03:10 Length and new design detail
03:59 Digital camera mirrors
05:24 New rear design
06:33 Interior: doors
07:16 Seats
08:29 New battery kWh sizes
08:53 Electric motors (AWD)
09:05 Audi SQ8 Sportback e-tron
10:48 Fast charging
11:12 Wheel designs
11:51 Light features test in a tunnel
#Audi #AudiQ8etron
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Thank for the video, i would appreciate it if add Prices too while editing or in the discription at least ❤️
That “no longer doing chrome rings because chrome isn’t a sustainable material…” line that’s hysterical on a car powered by lithium
The black version looks like the logo was stolen
And adding this led line in front... Oh the marketing.
Didn't Elon claim there is enough Lithium in the ground in Texas for all Teslas in the world? 😇
@@abraxastulammo9940 claim is the key word
Dont forget recycling them is a nightmare
The amount of effort they put into what the headlights can do is at a level I really appreciate. Meticulous.
You’ll “appreciate” it even more if you will have to replace the headlights and see the price for the new ones…
@@BurbonUFA my thoughts exactly, this is the biggest problem
@lightbreeze183 Headlights do brake, either from physical force or... Cost of a single Matrix headlight for my 2015 A6 C7 is around 3500 euros. So... Yeah, Nah.
@@MilosMandic1987 Yep, I honestly don't think I'm ever gonna ditch old fashioned halogen yellow headlights, whereas you can change lightbulb yourself on the fly anywhere instantly with almost no tools required + it costs you around 20 euros per corner for orginal oem one. And if light crash do occurs it's not gonna cost ya arm and a leg. All those fancy light work are just a gimmick.
Thankfully, they didn't dispose of the leather interior..
So they put chrome strips on side windows and put tons of matt chrome parts on the interior but just can’t on the grill cause it’s unsustainable? Man those grey painted rings will just look like a black slab out of a one meter distance.
It’s not chrome, it’s aluminium on the inside and partly outside.
They definitely look more pleasing than whatever BMW has to offer in its class…
That's like saying something looks more pleasing than a pile of turds
Or mercedes
All three brands are pretty sucky with design these days, apart from Audi Nailing Etron GT
Yup very nice and as a big BMW fan I admit the iX is ugly AF and I hate it.
@@Dark_Vader888 it's not the ugliest thing ever. That dishonour goes to the 7/X7
No chrome rings, no problem. I will just use the ones from my current one
Aren’t they plastic anyway?
@@oliverstemp9132 yes
I'd take it next level. little trip over to see our "southern" friends and have it replicated in steel and plated with actual chrome
The new front grilles look infinitely better than the older, rounded one, and that front light bar looks great! So did Audi give up on the orange for S models, like the old etron S’ brake calipers and side badges?
Umm the pre facelift e-tron had a very angular grille. There was nothing round in it. I have the picture in front of my face and I can’t see anything round.
@@mihnealazar7039 Rounded in the sense of being curved vertically, as seen from a profile view, versus this new one now being flat vertically, similar to the Q4 e-tron and the ICE models.
Audi literally makes the best looking EVS love how this doesn’t look to different to ur gas Audi models
ok 2 things:
the grill is not getting bigger anymore.
and the bmw IX looks really better.
I had a chance to drive 2022 E tron sportback for a week and I can most definitely tell you that was the most comfortable car I have ever driven
The reason being :
1. Car had air suspension
2. B&o surround speakers
3. Massaging seats
4. Capacitive infotainment & ac controls
Only 2 negatives I had with the car were :
1.208 miles range on a full charge
2.had to return it after one week..lol
thanks for the feedback!
What you mean by 1208 miles?
Also check out the driving review: th-cam.com/video/joaGbimmve0/w-d-xo.html
Got an Etron S sportback for 12 months with the virtual mirrors. While I loved the technology, I didn’t like the screen positioning, especially on the driver side. Plus, the flat image on the screen doesn’t give you deep and perspective. Also had issues with “fog” on the screens
agree
The rings look horrendous. Over all, suv looks good.
Nearly 30.000 etron’s sold in Norway alone since 2019!
Now THIS is a professional review, that's how it's done. Thank you.
🙏🙏🙏🙏
Not enough tech detail, instead the usual whine about non-sustainable leather (what does this even mean?).
@@abraxastulammo9940 meaning they still use genuine leather, not some recycled material. I'e tried recycled seats in ID.3. Bad. Poor breathability. Alcantara is good, I prefer ventilated leather by far. As for tech info, I think that's all they have for now to say. These are the differences compared to current e-tron. Makeup, range lift + digital matrix, as I see it.
@@bostjanlaba Not sure if digital matrix is new.
@@abraxastulammo9940 on my
2020 etron it was not an option to purchase. Matrix yes, but not digital (drawings on the road etc).
Go Brian. Exceptional as always! Good job
🙏🙏
Fully agree loved his Lotus Eletre review.
So not much changed from the original etron apart from a few new features and a face-lift. Batteries are slightly bigger but is the car using any lighter materials to bring down the overall weight?
Consumption has been decreased by 9% even with a bigger battery due to more efficient drivetrain and better aerodynamics👍
in south america we can have the e-trons with the mirror cameras. found quite hard to get used to, you just see whats on the screen, can't move yourself to see other angles like a regular mirror.. also i guess now finally Audi is starting to sorting out the naming problem in all linups
I've just started this video so haven't seen the interior of these cars yet but I'm making a bold guess that they are riddled with dumb touch controls
Check out the interior here: th-cam.com/video/KmREGb5gZVg/w-d-xo.html
They neeed to bring back the MMI control knob and the climate controls from the A4
After a few facelifts and redesigns that were questionable improvements over the cars they replaced, it looks like Audi's design mojo may be back. This looks exceptional, and the improvements to range are much-needed. If I were in the market for a big electric SUV, this and the Polestar 3 would be on my shortlist.
Still a compromised platform tho.
Tesla X, polestar, 3 Lotus Eletra, Nio EL7, Xpeng G9 all bespoke lightweight platform with great range and superior performance to this yesteryear upgrade..
Yeah, well, I like the Audi. 🤷🏾♀ Plus, I live in the U.S., and four out of the six cars listed aren't available here. And given that Tesla still can't get its shit together, a Model X isn't something I'd even consider.
Absolutely beautiful, I think I prefer the regular version over the sport back.
beutiffull and terribly useless
@@Mr11ESSE111 “aUdi e GaRBaGe” at least get a bit more creative with your arguments lol. While they’re range is still not ideal, it’s improving every year, and even so the current range of most electric vehicles, combined with overnight charging and fast charging on the go make it quite “usable” for 90+% of the population that do have a place to charge at home.
@@kyleburns9439 where the fack will peoples recharge if they are living in apartment in building?? they will throw cable of few hundreds meter on parking place !? of course not they will pay expensive electricity on superchargers !! so if you wait for improve every year that means you will must buy every year new one to get better range !!? untill something better dont change shitty lithium batteries which have shitty range,shitty long recharge just like shitty longevity and preetty high price this vehicles are basically scam and only good for 10% of high class peoples with above average incomes
Nice update, significantly better looking front/grill area. The interior is superb and the Sportback in that blue with those rims is just stunning. Their 'chrome' excuse is complete bullshit. Had many Audi's over the years, but that comment is pathetic.
12:08 wait a minute the Audi rings are not lit? wtf 😂😂😂😂
I’m a bit disappointed to be honest. I have a 2020 E-Tron that’s due for changing in June and was hoping that the ‘facelifted’ version, which is all this is, would have a few more differences - I was really hoping for a few physical buttons for climate, heated seats etc… I know you can use voice but it struggles to understand Yorkshire! 😂
Do you get any aerodynamic benefits from the wing cameras?
Yea but it’s not worth it
@@stormdancer1910 I thought as much, I have enough problems with regular mirrors thank God for blind spot monitoring.
not that much indeed, just so little that it is neglectable
@@autogefuehl Previous generation improved the drag coefficient, is it still the case?
Should have put LEDs in the badge.
Is that Navarra Blue?
Excellent review!
thanks !
Excellent presentation, I love my ICE Q7, but Audi needs to make an eTron - Q7, I want my large space and 3 row seats 🙏🤗
Traditional mirror expands when you shift your head..... Any direction! Still disappointed that my 2019 Jaguar I-Pace range is competitive. Says a lot about both manufacturers. Leather IS sustainable!
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. Please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse?
The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination.
If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex or Desertex or Miriam). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) %. So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette, even in ventilated options.
And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/yG3z7m6UqNg/w-d-xo.html
Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
Yeah, just range. But on comfort, charging speed & size / available space level, the I-pace lose it from the E-tron.
@@bonebreaker280 range is king. I test drove etron before going i-pace and drive comfort and handling was a jag victory by leaps and bounds
@@nosoupforyou425 Sure... if you drive alone. No way I would say people in the back could sit comfortable in the I-pace. AC charging is also locked at 7,4KW, while E-tron can charge at 11KW. On top of that, I sat in the I-pace the software didn't feel particularly fast. But maybe it was an old model.
@@bonebreaker280 i-pace is 11KW - software preferences are subjective.
I like the aggressive look of the ice Q8 I hope the RSQ8 e Tron will have more aggressive looks like the ice model, I liked the headlights on that more,now it looks like RS3, RS4 , S8, S6
Chrome is not ssustainable... they are going nuts!
Chrome plating causes a disproportionate amount of toxic waste, even if it's made in a way that causes no airborne toxins. Now, if that really means anything from a luxury car brand is a completely different thing since surely they have other processes that are worse.
Have the e-tron 55 with digital mirrors. I like it's placing and functioning, dont have any issues with determing distance of other cars after a short learning curve. The warning signs it shows with upcoming traffic are quite helpful for my wife :). Although there are some fog issues with start up in fall, when heating the car it is swiftly resolved. Driving the e-tron is really comfortabel and relaxing.
Very Nice Review. Thank You 🙏😋🍀
Please recommend 😇
Glad Audi is actually committed to EVs for real. Unlike some competitors from Bavaria.
BMW got this as competition: th-cam.com/video/qBU5-2LTKj8/w-d-xo.html
EV is NOT the future. Just let that sink in
Simply illuminate the damn rings
Great e-Tron into Brian.
cheers! Please recommend =)
That fast charging is not very fast for a face lift version.. e.g. an EV6 tops 241kw versus this 150 kw..
1:05 "Chrome is not sustainable." What BS Audi is talking about :/ They can also use Stainless steel or other metal materials, if sustainability is the problem. The problem is money and how to make most profit by using the cheapest materials, cheap software and low pay rate engineers :'(
Chromeplating causes masses of toxic waste, but coming from a carmaker eliminating chrome is just PR, it's like the least they can do out of all the wasteful practices.
►See more about the Q8 e-tron interior in our earlier review: th-cam.com/video/KmREGb5gZVg/w-d-xo.html
The Audi RSQ8 will remain twin turbo v8 gas right?
Yes
Rest of the ICE lineup is also untouched
@@autogefuehl untouched as in engine remains the same but will they get a face-lift or redesign for 2024 model year?
so it is actually more of orignal Etron facelift rather than new Q8, because it doesn't look as Q8 at all
Yes etron facelift
Superb presentation
thanks! Driving review soon!
if only they can make the non tesla charging infrastructure better / more reliable.
I hope the price of the Q8 in Australia is far more competitive than the fat etron currently. My suspicion is it will cost more. Audi are pricing themselves out of the market in Australia.
Nice looking vehicles but what have they done with their brand logo and the name? From a few metres away, it looks like the Audi rings have fallen off, and on closer inspection you have a flat 2D thin grey line denoting the rings. As for the e-tron name on the side, black gloss text on a black gloss background! It's almost as if they don't want to be associated with the vehicle, and is something you'd see in TV programmes where they cover the brand logo.
Those facias look very familiar. I googled it and found that they are IDENTICAL to the Hyundai Ioniq Plug-in hybrid.
Hyundai designer was the ex head designer of Audi.
Remove chrome but adding excessive lighting components everywhere, you call that eco-friendly? The repair cost for two headlights can buy a VW golf.
Review gets a big👏🏿from me
cheers! Please recommend =)
At least in my country, the new E-tron will be quite a lot cheaper than the old one despite upgraded technology. I think THAT excites me far more than all the rather minor improvements.
BMW F15 / X5 had this flash of light on pedestrians available since 2014 with nightvision package…
Now it turns out, that Q7 is a way bigger car than Q8 e-tron
Why they don't light up logo, this Olimpia rings? For me it would look great
Indeed
Probably not allowed in every country
Radar seems to be behind.
Yes the car is beautiful but can we take a moment to appreciate how nice German number plates are. UK ones looks so ugly in comparison.
Uhhh in the Netherlands we have yellow number plates. 🥲
I got my etron-s a week ago. Driving is like a rollercoaster which you control yourself. Never had so much fun in a car. However, you should have seen my face as i noticed that my 100k car won't fold in the mirrors automatically when i lock the car.
Hm it doesnt? Do you have the normal mirrors or the camera mirrors? Usually u can set this in the Audi MMI menu, Car -> Locking (or something) -> Automatic Fold Mirrors
@@autogefuehl Normal mirrors. Yes i checked the MMI settings. No Mirror options in there.
@@michaelnardmann3208 Keep looking, it's there
Great review!
It's just a bigger version of the Q4 or a new version of the E-tron.
I guess we will have to wait 2 years to get it in the US and pay horrible dealer markup on it...
Ahm, it's not a bigger version of the Q4. Not even close. You will realize this once you drive them.
Cheers!
Go to a dealer with a markdown.
I've got those camera mirrors and absolutely don't like them. Not only are there quality issues (I've had to to have them replaced 3 times because of condensation, which means you can't see anything anymore, carwash tears pieces off the mirror), but they're just not as good as regular mirrors. Less real estate to show you what's going on, after 3 years the looking a little more down position is still awkward and at nights it's more difficult to soo anything than regular mirrors.
They do look a bit cooler than regular mirrors, but I wouldn't have them again.
Thanks for the feedback! I found them terrible as well
The black alloys “look aggressive and black” 😂
Best EV in the market so far in terms of design, practicality, and technology advancement and almost 0 things u need to learn if you are a audi driver.
We have, here in Australia, a huge cattle industry; we export them overseas, we use their hides as well as their meat, and have no problem sitting on them in cars or sofas! We do camels also, they were left behind by the cameleers who opened up the desert routes in the 19th century.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. Please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse?
The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination.
If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex or Desertex or Miriam). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) %. So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette, even in ventilated options.
And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/yG3z7m6UqNg/w-d-xo.html
Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
What actually happened to the e-tron A6 sedan?
2024
Coming up - stay tuned here!
Preview: th-cam.com/video/zZeybx-re7g/w-d-xo.html
Very much looking forward to it!
11:40 😂 pardon?
I own an SQ8 and this electric version looks comparable except for the HIDEOUS mirrors! I won’t ever spend money on them
if there was only charger network non-teslas could reliably depend on, I think tesla would be done
Chrome rings not sustainable but hundreds of pounds of batteries that requires tons of earth be strip mined is? Rings looks like crap imo.
Finally, an electric car that doesnt have a ridiculous front grille.
I LOVE THIS MAN
thanks =)
Leather is best and it's most sustainable than anything else... And these lights... no comment :D I need LIGHT i KNOW I put blinker and on which direction I put it...
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. Please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse?
The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination.
If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex or Desertex or Miriam). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) %. So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette, even in ventilated options.
And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/yG3z7m6UqNg/w-d-xo.html
Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
I dislike the new front logo. They should have made it 3D like the back logo, at least a little bit. And if the logo itself would illuminate, that would make it look so good and futuristic.
I have a 55 Etron. Great car. Although the new model does not go far enough for me to change. Sure some efficiency gains and great looking paint and wheels.... but I think Ill wait for the Q6 etron... just hope it has air suspension
From what I have read, the Q6 will have air suspension. I bet you get the benefit of it in your current etron (as I do) and I think Audi recognise that it is needed to manage the extra weight.
7:43 alcantara steering wheels are nice unless u sweat from your hands
Yeah, and they wear incredibly poorly. Fine for a sports car you rarely drive, not fine for a high mileage daily driver.
Not just sweat, but mostly sweat. All humans secret oils from their hands. Its a terrible choice for touch surfaces e.g., steering wheel or shifter.
Funny thing is, it's closest competitor will probably be the Q6...
Hmmm tough choice. I was gonna reserve a Polestar 3, then this came. I really like the SQ8 Sportback etron.
It's a nice piece of engineering. Though, the colour would not be my first choice...
Where is Thomas??? I don't like the reviews without him
been shooting this: th-cam.com/video/S3qoijtAD-w/w-d-xo.html
dammit, up until now I was able to tell myself that my 2019 e-tron was an electric Q8. Can't now that there is an actual electric Q8
This is the same vehicle. They updated some of the looks, like a refresh, and added the Q8 name to it. Since they've been adding many more Etron models, they needed to put more of a name on this. So, you actually can call your Etron an electric Q8 since it now officially is.
I think it would have been better named Q6 because this looks nothing like the Q8 and it's a lot smaller, so that's a bit weird.
@@alfrredd I think (but am not 100% certain) that the new Q8e and the vintage e-Tron are the same size (interior and exterior).
The 2019 E-tron was already based on the Q8 platform so they just updated the name to match.
@@alfrredd It's based on the same platform as the Q8, so they just updated the name to match. It was probably easiest to see from the interior in the pre-facelift one. The Q6 will come later as a larger cousin to the Q4.
Nice looking indeed. I still can’t get on the bandwagon with electric vehicles YET, as the charging systems and range are still not where they need to be, which is why i opted for a new SQ8. I sold my beloved Q7 and the new SQ8 is actually returning 18 mpg average! The Q7 was not bad at 14 mpg but more power when you need it and better economy cant be a bad thing. I mostly drive in town and tend to follow the speed limits even in dynamic mode. When the range gets up to 450 or so and the broken charging points are somehow eliminated i will get one. Thanks for the review!👍👍
thanks keep following !
I hear you on the range but I decided that for my driving habits (which appear similar to yours), it was worth making the jump and I’m glad I did. I own the original e-Tron (July 2019) and I have had zero problems with charging as I am mainly a local driver (50 mile radius). Sometimes I have to charge every other day instead of once a week when I drive more frequently but that’s about it. Plenty of public chargers in my area as well (I live in and around a large U.S. city).
You mostly drive in town and averaging 18mpg? With only in-town driving im averaging 13mpg on a regular 23’ Q8 😂
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Lovely EV!! Good job, Audi!
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The designs would be attractive enough if everything was shrunk by about 1/4 say. As it stands they are just simply too wide to enjoy on many British roads. This continual progression of cars getting bigger & bigger with each release cycle has to stop.
The interior is already tiny, so if you shrink it by 1/4 it will be unusable.
@@jimj2683 😉
So you want a Q3? Q2?
Road safety something something.
Stop hating on bigger cars, if your situation does not need a big car than you can always opt for a smaller car, that obviously every brand provides lol
Audi, definitely must make the sports back with a powerful internal combustion engine.
Dropping the chrome rings because it's not sustainable has to be a joke.
EVs are just not appeasing to the average user. The prices are too high, the range anxiety, the charging hassle, the cars are very heavy, the materials for batteries are not sustainable... and not to mention the latest issues with energy prices/stability globally - its an even bigger NO for EV.
But Hybrid - YES please
You may as well get used to it because EVs are going to take over, like it or not.
So no more Audi RSQ8?
That is separate
Why leather is not sustainainable?
Do you kill cows to use its leather? or leather is a subproduct that, otherwise, would bem wasted?
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment.
You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. They can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even from plant-based materials (like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum). Or the Polestar 3 e.g. is using pine oil. And even if you still create a leatherette seat the classic way with petroleum base without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is very little in comparison to how much oil is used for other car parts or how much oil is burned for fuel or heating. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en). So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
Another interesting article is here:
www.collectivefashionjustice.org/articles/is-vegetable-tanned-leather-sustainable-lets-do-some-leather-myth-busting#:~:text=Often%20listed%20as%20a%20'pro,the%20method%20of%20tanning%20used.
A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensfin: th-cam.com/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/w-d-xo.html
New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/S1aNZeoatmE/w-d-xo.html
Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
Depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the first misuse case, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the priority use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down or even murdered on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse?
We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
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Original e-tron is such a nice car! This update seems to fix many of the drawbacks.
Looks ok (needs dark/black "grille" though), unlike it's german rivals.
Looking forward to comparisions to the Polestar 3 and the EX90 (very carefully selected reveal date by Audi btw...)
Too small for what you pay 💰 🤔 Where's Rivian or Hummer EV @ 🤔 🤔
They changed the name and added a light bar to the front. Interior looks the exact same. I would call this a facelift at best. Expected a big change after 5 years but aside from the battery and better economy you are esentially buying the same car as 5 years ago.
Ok, Audi has shown the new Q8 e-tron, or should we just say the updated e-tron, seriously, why not call it the Q6 e-tron (yes, I know there's a 3-row Q6 for Chinese market and an upcoming Q6 e-tron that looks about the size of a Q5)
Amazing car
I think Audi have really shot themselves in the foot with their EV naming structure.
While Mercedes and BMW have a a simple prefix to attach to all their previous names (EQ/i respectively), Audi are stuck with this awkward E-tron word.
Having an E-tron and E-tron GT implies they are very similar cars, when they couldn't be more different. Then they have the Q4 which is only an E-tron. And now they're sticking it onto their regular ICE names?
yeah agree that e-tron naming was a bad idea
Audi needs to work quicker Shame on them you tell them Brian
Best review of Audi Q8 e-tron. I just wished they changed to a single screen. I passed on the original e-tron as I did not like the split screens. I liked seeing all wheels available and agree the black wheels are the ones to get. No one else has shown the lighting carpet and the blinking light for someone on the road. Thank you for your review. Well done.
thanks keep tuning i !
Looking at how badly Tesla steering wheels peel, I don't mind waiting for them to come up with better materials, these cars are expensive.
So 20% like the new mirrors, that leaves 80% that don’t! So much for listening to the customers! As for if it’s not broke don’t fix it why not stay with the ICE?
If I’m paying that much for a luxury brand I want Leather!
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. Please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse?
The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination.
If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex or Desertex or Miriam). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) %. So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette, even in ventilated options.
And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/yG3z7m6UqNg/w-d-xo.html
Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
I wish that the interior would be better, the ICE Q8 interior was amazing and the exterior as well. The new one doesn't do justice.
I prefer cameras instead of physical mirrors. I have a Mercedes Actros truck with a mirrorcam instead of mirrors and I assure you that they are a very good option both from an aesthetic point of view and for energy efficiency. Good presentation of the car...really great. Bravo👏👏👏
Cheers!
Yes for big trucks it is better indeed! The solution here is mediocre though
@@autogefuehl nothing can compare human eye indeed...but aesthetically it is a point in favor sometimes....YOUR JOB IT'S AWESOME....THANKS A LOT FOR INFORM US SO FINE 🙂
thanks m8 !!
Indeed for the trucks the blind spot is reduced massively and I guess you also have more space for monitors inside the cabin.
@@autogefuehlOh Lord...are huge. It is 40 cm high by 18 cm wide. It doesn't have the quality you expect, but surely as technology evolves, there will be better camera and screens. DAF has also mounted in its cabins and SCANIA already has its own Volkswagen group in the final phase. Surely Thomas could make a video for everyone since Thomas knows those MERCEDES engineers very well.
In 3 years they have never given any problem, with a lot of heat and cold. It has no movement latency,although sometimes the colors are confused, white with gray, red with pink, black with blue....
I like recycled materials in cars. But considering 5-10% of cowhide is already thrown into landfill it also makes sense to use whatever waster materials are available rather than throw it away.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. Please tune in to what the animal leather industry tried to do here with our channel: th-cam.com/video/nP_CvLlaFlI/w-d-xo.html
In general, depending on the animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat would be the reason no.1 in other cases, the hide remains one of the most profitable body parts. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you accept it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and destroys the environment, you make them more profitable. Also, if you turn the argument around "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize how biased the argument is. After all, would you care for which exact body part you would be murdered? Or imagine someone robs you on the street and beats you to death - would it matter to you if it was for your Smartphone or for your purse?
The animal agriculture industry occupies 2/3 of all farm land on this planet which cannot be used for direct human nutrition then. That is extremely inefficient. The no.1 cause for deforestation is the animal industry. It is also one of the biggest contributor to climate change. The amount of land, resources, energy and water being used is beyond imagination.
If you are interested in how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: th-cam.com/video/tkjCAmq1_8E/w-d-xo.html
Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
For the alternative, you can either use artificial fabrics which can be made from recyclables (we have already shown a lot of vehicles that use great fabric seats from PET-bottles etc.) or more and more also from plant-based materials (like Pinatex or Desertex or Miriam). And even if you would create a seat completely with petroleum without a recycling share, the amount of oil being used for that is nothing in comparing just to once fueling up your car. By ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) %. So it is the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
In practical reasons, fabric or microfibre seats are just more useful. You do not sweat in summer and it is not cold in winter. And if you want the slick look or something to wipe clean easier, that is possible with animal free leatherette, even in ventilated options.
And there are also new leatherette materials available which are superior in every aspect: th-cam.com/video/u94YXJ72UTA/w-d-xo.html
More and more natural materials are rising: th-cam.com/video/nRSsXEnwHDo/w-d-xo.html or th-cam.com/video/yG3z7m6UqNg/w-d-xo.html
Using animal skin on seats is a major issue of animal rights, human rights - and after all it is just common sense what is better both for the environment and just more practical and more luxurious for the customer. We cannot change what we have bought in the past (that also counts for ourselves of course!), but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
I'm not spending nearly 100k on a car with a grey insignia
400 euros for a 20 euro outdoor rated led strip.