Great thanks for your kind words about "Where is it" Dudley :) There is a little mistake (20'00) : on the video you talk about 3 arcade difficulty levels, in fact there are 4 : - Easy - Normal - Hard and - Mix I'm really happy that you love it ;) Thanks again Congratulations to all for your entries for this SMSDevCompo'23 ps: Concerning DoTheSame, the items graphics were updated by Kagesan and the new version is downloadable on smspower too or my itchio ;)
I've not known a year this consistently good. 2 years ago last place was a picture gallery and the bottom game was a 2 minute experiment that didn't yet work. Here the bottom 2 are a full programming language and a very nice little car thing. Mad.
Oh boy I've been looking forward to this vid for a while ^_^ It's always nice to see these running on real hardware since when you're doing all of your testing on an emulator, you never know if there are gonna be issues on the real thing 😅
Does mean I couldn't show off your FM chip efforts but it's still worth it. If you people put in this kind of effort the least I can do is take advantage of my ability to show them off properly. If it ever helps with compatibility later btw that's a late "Alex Kidd" UK SMS1. You got absolutely screwed by the sheer quality of the other releases this year, in no universe does it deserve 6th, it's lovely!
@@Yesterzine I'm glad you still enjoyed it, and it being 6th proves how many awesome new Master System releases we're getting which is never a bad thing ^_^
@@LouisTheSEGANerd I've sucked at looking at and playing homebrew as someone sort of new to the scene, but while I now plan to check out this whole list, I'll have to look at yours early. As a musician myself, I appreciate anyone who goes the extra mile to go for FM sound! I feel like a lot of original commercial games really didn't take full advantage of what was available on that chip.
@@TheNuje In all honesty the FM music in my game is incredibly basic due to limitations with the tracker I was forced to work with (MoonBlaster on the MSX), but at least devkitsms supports playback of both PSG and FM at the same time which is kinda cool I guess :) Here's one of the tracks running on an MSX emulator: th-cam.com/video/qLrvDSOxhhY/w-d-xo.html For comparison here's something I remixed for both chips simultaneously using Furnace (my preferred tracker of choice): th-cam.com/video/0DvOayCFTjM/w-d-xo.html
13:24 the volleyball game looks like a polished version of the msdos game *Arcade Volleyball* which in turn was based on the early pong clone *Rebound*
Great video @Dudley - thanks for taking such an interest in SMS Homebrew and awesome feedback about Lil Evel Knievel esp. the audio sound track PS: hit button 1 or 2 after jumping Lil EK into the air to pull off some cool flips n' trick combos :)
I did it a few times but I used early levels footage in the video to avoid spoilers! But yeah, loving the tech and especially happy it ran on my SMS1 (an Alex kidd one if it helps) because I wasn't sure a 1MB game even would!
Where Is It is the type of devilish Puzzle game i love playing, the concept is wonderfully simple but maddeningly cryptic to the point of insanity. Great choice for No.1. Cheers for making this video.
I was not aware that they were making so many new games! I have never played a Master System before, but it looks fun! Thank you so much for making the video.
All clever magical stuff, all 7 are good and related to good existing ideas: 7. related to Pictionary and LOGO.6. related to the LCD games.5. related to Columns 4. related to QBASIC Gorillas 3. related to Pong 2. related to Alex Kidd Motorcycle stage or Wonderboy 1. related to eye spy.
You could probably do this for all new games to be fair. I like though that the vast majority really aren't duplicates of anything from the commercial life of the system.
Then might I recommend this clip from fine Twitch and soon TH-cam TTRPG channel "Dooomed Colonist", because she appears - th-cam.com/video/UYAPv0AM0IE/w-d-xo.html
Did you say history's greatest console? Even though I don't agree with that All these entries look fantastic And I probably will have to give them all they go, Have a fantastic Easter mate
The History's Greatest Console thing is a channel running joke. Although it is the one console I own a complete UK set for, as you can see bits of in the background of the Sonic and homebrew pics at the very start. And yeah if you got some time over Easter, play all of them. Have a great time :)
You're still running an SMS2 via RF right? Be interested to see how WhereIsIt fares in that scenario. I'd have tried it on my CRT but impressively the RF port only displays in black and white even though as you can clearly see, the TV itself is fine.
@@Yesterzine an RF port from a ZX81? I am indeed running from RF, with the added bonus of my crappy TV looking crap even with HDMI input. I've also got my cheap Chinese RF to AV so can also have a go at capturing some footage
Sega Master System 1 and 2 was my first series of consoles I never got a NES but I used to play on my friends. But the Master System II was better designed but the controller did break easily lol
The SMS light gun used a far more clever system for detecting aiming than the NES Zapper. Ironically, though, it also guarantees that there will never be a modern display that can support it. NES Zapper support, meanwhile, can theoretically work, if the display has low enough latency.
@@Yesterzine, I find them to be overrated, and I grew up in the peak era of their existence! Seriously, you go try to find a 55" CRT and try to get it into your house, let alone haul it yourself without hurting, and/or killing, someone, including yourself, or wrecking it, or wrecking your house, or finding any sort of parts for it, or finding those parts for cheap, or finding good quality replacement parts for it, or finding anyone that has first hand knowledge on how to make all of the parts, let alone repair them, to original factory specifications, and see how well that goes for you.
Honestly, Shootagem needs NES/FDS, SNES/NSFC, and Sega Genesis/Mega Drive/Nomad ports as well, and maybe some Game Boy/Game Boy Color, GBA/GBASP/GBA Micro, and Game Gear ports as well, and the ability to play with controllers, like in the home ports of the Lethal Enforcers games, and the ability to play the game with guns that work on a HDTV, or similar based variant, option for the game as well.
I just bought Rampage for the SMS, and man...that game is way too easy. It's a great port though. I just could not believe how long I sat there playing the very first time I played it, without getting to a game over screen.
Difficult balance an arcade port. How many continues and credits do you offer a home player? Although I forget right now if Rampage is over generous there or just easy in general.
It is a coding competition not a games competition. So the game with the best code would be top.I tried to read the code for the games but I don't know if I can understand any of the code,enough,for any game in time to vote.Inspiring stuff by clever people for a wannabe like me.
That's a fair point, and on pure coding you'd be inclined to favour Evel except StevePro did the clever bit 2 years ago... I decided to go with the fact it's a "games coding" competition and that I'm talking mostly to non-coders finding something to play and rank them like that. You're right the coding cleverness ranking is going to be different.
I see a lot of demos from a lot's of consoles. But you can't use most of this things in a game, may be for some intro for a very short time. Just because 256 kb are not enough.
Se tratando de Master System, o Brasil é uma autoridade com muitos títulos lançados somente pela TecToy. Esse console nunca foi totalmente explorado e por isso mesmo ainda se vê tanta coisa sendo feita pra ele. E não tenho dúvida de que ele suporta ROMs ainda maiores do que 8 megabits, pois tecnicamente ele é bem superior ao Famicom.
Bem, dado que o de 8Mbit funciona no meu SMS britânico 1, que deveria suportar apenas 4, presumo que a troca de banco realmente suportaria a execução de roms muito maiores. Vamos precisar de alguém para descobrir, eu acho. Aliás, tenho um lançamento apenas brasileiro em minha coleção aqui, uma cópia do FIFA.
@@Yesterzine Eu acredito que as versões do Master de 24kb suportem ROMs de até 16 megabits e as de 40kb alcancem até 24mb usando só um bank switch. Mas tem uns jogos como o Jang Pung 3 da Coreia que só rodavam no emulador MEKA e que depois ele passaram a rodar nos consoles. Os fatores que levam a incompatibilidade de jogos de regiões diferentes é bem variável.
Sim. Para ser justo, os sistemas reais da região certa não são imunes. Os jogos da Codemasters não rodam nos primeiros Master System 1, mesmo que sejam britânicos
@@PONTOCRITICO, it is not superior to the NES/FDS, and what you are saying is some toxic a s s f u c k i n g console w h o r e b u l l s h i t. Both systems have yet to reach their full potential and they both have a lot that is left to discover in the terms of their abilities.
@@paxhumana2015 Eram apresentadas 32 cores simultâneas contra 16 do Famicom e existiram versões do Master System com até 40Kb de memória interna dependendo do mercado onde era lançado. Fora periféricos como os óculos 3D e a placa FM Synthesis que dava outra cara aos jogos. Não resta dúvida que ele era muito mais potente e promissor, mas opinião cada um tem a sua, algo que todo mundo precisa respeitar. Baseio as minhas observando cada aspecto de um sistema e não é porque o Famicom foi mais bem sucedido que vou dizer que ele iguala o hardware do Master System, isso é coisa de fanboy alienado. Cada um sabe como a Nintendo passou a mandar no mercado e os seus métodos para tanto. Se isso é tóxico pra você não posso fazer nada, era apenas a realidade da época.
They call them chips in my part of the world, instead of crisps, and what you all call chips are called fries in my part of the world. However, the poor people that are in Australia and New Zealand call them both chips, which, contrary to what they may think, absolutely DOES NOT make it less confusing. Oh, and the state of my birth in my country also has a factory for Pringles, and that company also sponsored a minor league baseball team that lasted for around two decades in the area until the team, the corporation, the city, and MLB all got into some disputes over the team and MLB decided to completely make the A, AA, and AAA teams into smaller organizations that now have thirty teams each, to correspond to the thirty MLB teams.
@@Yesterzine The first console I plated was actually the Mega Drive, although I entirely missed out on the Master System and have technically never played on a real one, only via backwards compatibility and Game Gear
Despite owning a complete set now, I too had a Mega Drive before a Master System. Other than a few games with specific issues, the experience on a Mega Drive isn't worse so while an SMS1 is lovely, there's no real need.
Yeah, it got picked up somewhere. 3x the views of my 2nd most popular, 6 x the views of the 3rd. And those two were this video for 2022 and 2021! The people want history's greatest console...
You're far too kind! Some of these games are absolute jokes! 🤣I'm looking at the drawing game and the racing game! Look at that frame rate on the racing game! The car's here, and then there! There are no frames in between! 🤣 It's like a Tiger electronics game.
It happens, the balance between xbox and Sony has always been different too. There's obviously the self fulfilling prophecy that it was more popular here because it got more games because it was more popular here. One other fact to consider is that in the late 80s/early 90s Nintendo's distributors were also irredeemable dickheads in Europe.
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Great thanks for your kind words about "Where is it" Dudley :)
There is a little mistake (20'00) : on the video you talk about 3 arcade difficulty levels, in fact there are 4 :
- Easy
- Normal
- Hard
and
- Mix
I'm really happy that you love it ;)
Thanks again
Congratulations to all for your entries for this SMSDevCompo'23
ps:
Concerning DoTheSame, the items graphics were updated by Kagesan and the new version is downloadable on smspower too or my itchio ;)
Ooh nice, and apologies for the oversight :) I'll pin the comment so people see.
Always amazing to see what can be done with older consoles with a bit of ingenuity. These all look like a good time.
Yeah, the SMS, GB and the 8-bit Micros have standout scenes but there's very few machines where someone isn't doing SOMETHING amazing.
Great video mate. Brilliantly covered all the games. Every entry looks fantastic. And thanks for the shout 👍
I've not known a year this consistently good. 2 years ago last place was a picture gallery and the bottom game was a 2 minute experiment that didn't yet work. Here the bottom 2 are a full programming language and a very nice little car thing. Mad.
Oh boy I've been looking forward to this vid for a while ^_^
It's always nice to see these running on real hardware since when you're doing all of your testing on an emulator, you never know if there are gonna be issues on the real thing 😅
Does mean I couldn't show off your FM chip efforts but it's still worth it. If you people put in this kind of effort the least I can do is take advantage of my ability to show them off properly. If it ever helps with compatibility later btw that's a late "Alex Kidd" UK SMS1.
You got absolutely screwed by the sheer quality of the other releases this year, in no universe does it deserve 6th, it's lovely!
@@Yesterzine I'm glad you still enjoyed it, and it being 6th proves how many awesome new Master System releases we're getting which is never a bad thing ^_^
@@LouisTheSEGANerd I've sucked at looking at and playing homebrew as someone sort of new to the scene, but while I now plan to check out this whole list, I'll have to look at yours early. As a musician myself, I appreciate anyone who goes the extra mile to go for FM sound! I feel like a lot of original commercial games really didn't take full advantage of what was available on that chip.
@@TheNuje In all honesty the FM music in my game is incredibly basic due to limitations with the tracker I was forced to work with (MoonBlaster on the MSX), but at least devkitsms supports playback of both PSG and FM at the same time which is kinda cool I guess :)
Here's one of the tracks running on an MSX emulator:
th-cam.com/video/qLrvDSOxhhY/w-d-xo.html
For comparison here's something I remixed for both chips simultaneously using Furnace (my preferred tracker of choice):
th-cam.com/video/0DvOayCFTjM/w-d-xo.html
@@LouisTheSEGANerd Nice! Check your PMs on SMSPower :)
13:24 the volleyball game looks like a polished version of the msdos game *Arcade Volleyball* which in turn was based on the early pong clone *Rebound*
I am not familiar but it is a fairly obvious style to do an arcade one in.
I'm actually blown away by it. It looks like a blast. Super smooth, too.
Great video @Dudley - thanks for taking such an interest in SMS Homebrew and awesome feedback about Lil Evel Knievel esp. the audio sound track
PS: hit button 1 or 2 after jumping Lil EK into the air to pull off some cool flips n' trick combos :)
I did it a few times but I used early levels footage in the video to avoid spoilers!
But yeah, loving the tech and especially happy it ran on my SMS1 (an Alex kidd one if it helps) because I wasn't sure a 1MB game even would!
Shootagem looks like a quality addition to the SMS library
It is. Although I did just check if you were involved ;)
Where Is It is the type of devilish Puzzle game i love playing, the concept is wonderfully simple but maddeningly cryptic to the point of insanity.
Great choice for No.1.
Cheers for making this video.
The competition results disagree with us but what would "The public" know :D
@@Yesterzine
Each to their own i suppose.
I was not aware that they were making so many new games!
I have never played a Master System before, but it looks fun!
Thank you so much for making the video.
Dive a little cheaper in the channel, especially the SMS playlist and you'll find reviews of a few more as well.
@@Yesterzine Sweet, thank you!
Some nice looking games in there. I particularly like Shootagem. Thats a great idea for a game!!
Yeah, well worth dragging out the CRT for :)
@@Yesterzine it’s the only reason I’m keeping one!
"Wanna play some COD?"
"No thanks. I'm doing a marathon of Where is it?."
Yes.
But like... unironically.
always cool seeing new games come out for retro consoles
Most consoles have a decent scene these days, it's great.
@@Yesterzine to bad though you dont see the same love for some of the disc based consoles
The Dreamcast does well but I think the difficulty of development plays a big part here.
@@Yesterzine i have to agree. its far easier to use a recycled cart then it is to press a disc
This stuff is amazing. Such clever people!
It's amazing really. Everything here is just a bit more time and a QA dept from looking perfectly sensible in a box in 1992.
All clever magical stuff, all 7 are good and related to good existing ideas: 7. related to Pictionary and LOGO.6. related to the LCD games.5. related to Columns 4. related to QBASIC Gorillas 3. related to Pong 2. related to Alex Kidd Motorcycle stage or Wonderboy 1. related to eye spy.
You could probably do this for all new games to be fair. I like though that the vast majority really aren't duplicates of anything from the commercial life of the system.
Great video, Dudley! I wish we could have seen your cat though.
Then might I recommend this clip from fine Twitch and soon TH-cam TTRPG channel "Dooomed Colonist", because she appears - th-cam.com/video/UYAPv0AM0IE/w-d-xo.html
Cheers, I would never have seen these otherwise.
If you have other favourite consoles it's worth a google. The scene for Game Boy especially is hugely strong.
Did you say history's greatest console? Even though I don't agree with that All these entries look fantastic And I probably will have to give them all they go, Have a fantastic Easter mate
The History's Greatest Console thing is a channel running joke. Although it is the one console I own a complete UK set for, as you can see bits of in the background of the Sonic and homebrew pics at the very start.
And yeah if you got some time over Easter, play all of them. Have a great time :)
Some fantastic games to add to my SD here!
You're still running an SMS2 via RF right? Be interested to see how WhereIsIt fares in that scenario. I'd have tried it on my CRT but impressively the RF port only displays in black and white even though as you can clearly see, the TV itself is fine.
@@Yesterzine an RF port from a ZX81? I am indeed running from RF, with the added bonus of my crappy TV looking crap even with HDMI input. I've also got my cheap Chinese RF to AV so can also have a go at capturing some footage
I will not shut up while at the back, you can't make me!
This to be fair is why you're at the back in the first place.
@@Yesterzine Need to be this far back to just get a chance of seeing all of ur mum 🤣
Sega Master System 1 and 2 was my first series of consoles I never got a NES but I used to play on my friends. But the Master System II was better designed but the controller did break easily lol
The 2 looks good but you can't beat that sweet, sweet RGB SCART output...
The SMS light gun used a far more clever system for detecting aiming than the NES Zapper. Ironically, though, it also guarantees that there will never be a modern display that can support it. NES Zapper support, meanwhile, can theoretically work, if the display has low enough latency.
Yeah, I'll have to hold onto that CRT as long as I can.
@@Yesterzine, I find them to be overrated, and I grew up in the peak era of their existence! Seriously, you go try to find a 55" CRT and try to get it into your house, let alone haul it yourself without hurting, and/or killing, someone, including yourself, or wrecking it, or wrecking your house, or finding any sort of parts for it, or finding those parts for cheap, or finding good quality replacement parts for it, or finding anyone that has first hand knowledge on how to make all of the parts, let alone repair them, to original factory specifications, and see how well that goes for you.
Honestly, Shootagem needs NES/FDS, SNES/NSFC, and Sega Genesis/Mega Drive/Nomad ports as well, and maybe some Game Boy/Game Boy Color, GBA/GBASP/GBA Micro, and Game Gear ports as well, and the ability to play with controllers, like in the home ports of the Lethal Enforcers games, and the ability to play the game with guns that work on a HDTV, or similar based variant, option for the game as well.
I guess there's nothing stopping an SMS emulator supporting the Sinden.
There's also EmuVR.
I just bought Rampage for the SMS, and man...that game is way too easy. It's a great port though. I just could not believe how long I sat there playing the very first time I played it, without getting to a game over screen.
Difficult balance an arcade port. How many continues and credits do you offer a home player? Although I forget right now if Rampage is over generous there or just easy in general.
It is a coding competition not a games competition. So the game with the best code would be top.I tried to read the code for the games but I don't know if I can understand any of the code,enough,for any game in time to vote.Inspiring stuff by clever people for a wannabe like me.
That's a fair point, and on pure coding you'd be inclined to favour Evel except StevePro did the clever bit 2 years ago...
I decided to go with the fact it's a "games coding" competition and that I'm talking mostly to non-coders finding something to play and rank them like that. You're right the coding cleverness ranking is going to be different.
I see a lot of demos from a lot's of consoles. But you can't use most of this things in a game, may be for some intro for a very short time. Just because 256 kb are not enough.
Se tratando de Master System, o Brasil é uma autoridade com muitos títulos lançados somente pela TecToy. Esse console nunca foi totalmente explorado e por isso mesmo ainda se vê tanta coisa sendo feita pra ele. E não tenho dúvida de que ele suporta ROMs ainda maiores do que 8 megabits, pois tecnicamente ele é bem superior ao Famicom.
Bem, dado que o de 8Mbit funciona no meu SMS britânico 1, que deveria suportar apenas 4, presumo que a troca de banco realmente suportaria a execução de roms muito maiores.
Vamos precisar de alguém para descobrir, eu acho.
Aliás, tenho um lançamento apenas brasileiro em minha coleção aqui, uma cópia do FIFA.
@@Yesterzine Eu acredito que as versões do Master de 24kb suportem ROMs de até 16 megabits e as de 40kb alcancem até 24mb usando só um bank switch. Mas tem uns jogos como o Jang Pung 3 da Coreia que só rodavam no emulador MEKA e que depois ele passaram a rodar nos consoles. Os fatores que levam a incompatibilidade de jogos de regiões diferentes é bem variável.
Sim. Para ser justo, os sistemas reais da região certa não são imunes. Os jogos da Codemasters não rodam nos primeiros Master System 1, mesmo que sejam britânicos
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@@paxhumana2015 Eram apresentadas 32 cores simultâneas contra 16 do Famicom e existiram versões do Master System com até 40Kb de memória interna dependendo do mercado onde era lançado. Fora periféricos como os óculos 3D e a placa FM Synthesis que dava outra cara aos jogos. Não resta dúvida que ele era muito mais potente e promissor, mas opinião cada um tem a sua, algo que todo mundo precisa respeitar. Baseio as minhas observando cada aspecto de um sistema e não é porque o Famicom foi mais bem sucedido que vou dizer que ele iguala o hardware do Master System, isso é coisa de fanboy alienado. Cada um sabe como a Nintendo passou a mandar no mercado e os seus métodos para tanto. Se isso é tóxico pra você não posso fazer nada, era apenas a realidade da época.
How has no one modded Master of Darkness in to a proper Castlevania game?
I could have sworn someone had but I might be confusing it with www.indieretronews.com/2023/01/castlevania-is-coming-to-sega-master.html
yep, very much a scratch made project and not a romhack
What is the name of the SHUMP game at the beginning of the video?
That would be Flight of Pigarus. You'll find that on SMSPower as well, it's a former competition entry.
To be fair... Pringles made Mint White Chocolate Crisps which given how pringles effect my stomach I'd rather just take some Metamucil.
There's a friend of mine who'll try anything weird like that because, and I quote, "I could be a taste sensation".
He's welcome to that one.
They call them chips in my part of the world, instead of crisps, and what you all call chips are called fries in my part of the world. However, the poor people that are in Australia and New Zealand call them both chips, which, contrary to what they may think, absolutely DOES NOT make it less confusing. Oh, and the state of my birth in my country also has a factory for Pringles, and that company also sponsored a minor league baseball team that lasted for around two decades in the area until the team, the corporation, the city, and MLB all got into some disputes over the team and MLB decided to completely make the A, AA, and AAA teams into smaller organizations that now have thirty teams each, to correspond to the thirty MLB teams.
Great Video ;)
Ta!
Master System rules
History's Greatest Console(tm)
Depends on what you consider old
I'm 24
You are, just about, born after the last Sega licenced Master System game. I'm counting that as young.
@@Yesterzine The first console I plated was actually the Mega Drive, although I entirely missed out on the Master System and have technically never played on a real one, only via backwards compatibility and Game Gear
Despite owning a complete set now, I too had a Mega Drive before a Master System. Other than a few games with specific issues, the experience on a Mega Drive isn't worse so while an SMS1 is lovely, there's no real need.
Oh damn this video really blew up in views :O
Yeah, it got picked up somewhere. 3x the views of my 2nd most popular, 6 x the views of the 3rd. And those two were this video for 2022 and 2021! The people want history's greatest console...
You're far too kind! Some of these games are absolute jokes! 🤣I'm looking at the drawing game and the racing game! Look at that frame rate on the racing game! The car's here, and then there! There are no frames in between! 🤣 It's like a Tiger electronics game.
To be fair that's kinda the point of it.
Yeah ngl that was kinda the point when making it :-P
Can confirm Primates is accurate
Genre : Simulation
2023? Don't tell me people still don't know how to play online on the system
I'm not sure what you mean?
The Sega Master System had better graphics than Nintendo. Nintendo had better games and almost no one I knew growing up had a SMS.
American by any chance?
@@Yesterzine Yes, American from California. I've always wondered why Sega was so popular in the UK and Brazil.
Nintendo had a better library and more games, but not better games (specially considering SMS games released in early 90s).
It happens, the balance between xbox and Sony has always been different too. There's obviously the self fulfilling prophecy that it was more popular here because it got more games because it was more popular here.
One other fact to consider is that in the late 80s/early 90s Nintendo's distributors were also irredeemable dickheads in Europe.
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Master system pisses all over the NES
😳😲👀 explain
I don't recommend that, you'll stain the NES and it's already kinda that colour bless it.
Probably shouldn't tell him that at this very moment, my NES is closer to me than any of the SMSs :D
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