Panasonic 20-60mm VS 24-105mm F4 - What's The Best Kit Lens for your Panasonic Lumix S1/S5/S5II?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

If you have found this video helpful, a like and subscribe will be really appreciated! Thanks!

[@RhettThompsonFilm]

Loved this comparison. It’s the 20-60 a super unique focal range lens vs the tried and true classic 24-105 with an added great macro capability! I’m torn between the two personally depending on what you do.

[@ToddLloyd]

I love how you compared the lens extension when you zoom. I haven't seen that before where you have a wide range with minimal barrel extension on the 24-105, but a lot of barrel extension through a small zoom range on the 20-60. Thank you for that.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

You're welcome and thanks for watching!

[@iamhassan9943]

I have the 20-60 and the 50 1.8. I only want one more lens, a 105 or 3.5 for portraits. The 20-60 is a great travel lens. Very underrated. I mostly use mine between the 20-40mm range.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I think that for you it's better to wait for the 100mm, or 135mm, prime lens from Panasonic! Thanks for watching!

[@RhettThompsonFilm]

I wonder it people would buy a tele version of the 20-60. Maybe a 60-120 or something weird like that.

[@iamhassan9943]

@@RhettThompsonFilm I think Sigma is putting out the more in between lenses. But I could see something like a 60-135 f/4 or f2-f2.8. It would be big but heck Panasonic give us some variety and weirdness, haha.

[@UHDGamers-re2xj]

I have the 20-60mm and a 150-600mm and this lens is next as I then have all focal lengths covered.

[@nocturnal1970]

​@@UHDGamers-re2xjI'm soon buying the S5ii with 35-105 f4 and 85 f1.8. Looking to buy the Sigma 60-600 later 😮

[@lukecerritelli]

I agree with you. The overall performance of the 24-105 wins for me especially on the S1. But the 20-60 is nice too

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Yes they're both nice! Thank you for watching Luke!

[@fredriksvard2603]

How is it even close... ois, macro, 105 reach, fixed aperture. I have the 20-60 and i kinda use it as a 20mm sometimes but i'd trade it for a wider faster prime in a heartbeat, or the 24-105. Theres the 16-35 too ofc.

[@lukecerritelli]

@@fredriksvard2603 the ois of the 24-105 is superb and The added advantage of it being a macro zoom is great.

[@fredriksvard2603]

@@lukecerritelli Yes it seems pretty fantastic. Ois and macro are both huge to me. Close focusing range is a bigger deal to me than even focal length and aperture, lenses should be called "50mm 1:6/45cm 1.8". Shame the 16-35 didn't get good macro.

[@hemzheru]

@@fredriksvard2603it’s close because the 20-60 is optically a little better

[@EdRobles1]

Another great video👍. I have the 20-60 kit, 28-70 2.8 Sigma, and 50 1.8 Panasonic. I like the kit lens for family, travel and no-pressure, relaxed content. I'll also use it at 20mm instead of buying a wide aperture prime, even though it's at f3.5 at 20mm. I damaged the kit lens and while it's getting fixed I bought the 28-70 2.8 because of the great reviews and faster aperture (it's also light and relatively inexpensive compared to similar lenses). I'll probably keep both because I want to be able to walk around and shoot at 20-24mm with the Panasonic lens. The 50mm is for low light. I bought it because the 35mm 1.8 was on back order. I also have a Sony A7III with a 24-105 and 35 1.8. The 24-105 is my fast professional workhorse. I'm still learning how to work the S5's focus most efficiently. I'm taking it with me on our holiday vacation to Texas and plan on using it in San Antonio, Austin and Dallas/Fort Worth over the next two weeks. I really like the colors, and the 10-bit, 4:2:2 internal video recording is the big selling point for me. I do a lot of US Army field photography and video and will begin to include that along with my personal creative content starting this week on Instagram @ed.robles1. It's been a long time but the S5 and watching this and other channels has been inspiring.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Hey Eddie! You've got a great kit there! Is the 28-70 f2.8 contrasty like the 20-60? I never had the chance to try that lens...
Anyway I think you can live without the 20-60, unless you vlog while walking around. You could replace the 20-60 with the contax zeiss 80-200 F4 ;)
When I use AF lenses, the AF on Panasonic is not that bad...but I much prefer to use true manual focus lenses. You should give it a try, if you don't have sight problems.
Enjoy your amazing trip!

[@EdRobles1]

@@LucaBono.Studio The 28-70 is contrasty, maybe even more than the 20-60. It's also a lot sharper. Amazingly sharp and detailed. You can crop in plenty and maintain details beautifully. I've shot it on the Natural profile mostly, and some V-log. Looks good in natural profile. So what I surprisingly found after shooting for two full days, all day through the evening/night with both lenses, is that that the 20-60 allowed me to capture more imagery faster because of the wider 20 mm focal length. I could grab all the composition and environment I wanted in the shot with the kit lens at 20mm. Mostly street and documentary style photo/video. Surprisingly, I had to switch out the 20-70 for the 20 - 60 several times. But at night with low lighting, I used the 28-70, occasionally. I'm accustomed to shooting with the 24-105 on my Sony, but this 20-60 is now transforming how I approach my shot composition in a fresh way. It was a surprise that came to light after hands on use. I will continue shooting both lenses over the next three weeks and follow up with comparative thoughts and imagery, and ultimate decision. You're right, I should have used manual focus more, even with native glass . I got burned a couple of times in the past 48 hours. I haven't depended on manual focus for a while, but it's important to keep it up. I'll see your video on the 80-200. It's been a while since I've used older non-native glass. I need to learn how to use the S5 in APS-C photography mode, if possible, so I can extend the reach of these lenses. I think Josh Cameron shows it on one of his videos. Thanks for replying! - I watch all your videos 💯 . Again, I'll follow up with imagery. (Reply edit. I was mistaken. I don't think there is an APS-C mode for photography on the S5. I think Josh mentions it for video only.)

[@LucaBono.Studio]

@@EdRobles1 sorry for the late reply...I don't get the notifications on replies on TH-cam! Is the manual focusing going better now?

[@Isaharif]

This was such a well made and engrossing review. I did not feel the time at all.

[@alexarna]

This is exactly what I was looking for - thank you!

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Glad it was helpful!

[@amvanime866]

What lens would you recommend for short films, a 50 mm or a 20-60mm?

[@transitionfilm]

Thanks for comparing these lenses Luca.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Thank you for watching!

[@raksh9]

I have the 20-60, and Sigma 24-105 in EF mount. Of course, the Sigma is much larger, heavier and longer, especially with the EF to L adapter. In bright conditions, the 20-60 is fine. 24-105 is better for reach and constant aperture. But the interesting thing is that 4k 50p on the S cameras has a 1.5x crop, making the 20-60 into 30-90. The extra reach increases the versatility of the 20-60.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

That's a great combination of lenses! The 20-60 is fine if you can live with the CA and high contrast rendering

[@finishingmove77]

On a gimbal, on the wide end the weight of the 20-60 is similar to the s35 1.8 s50 1.8. Only a minimal adjustment is needed. It also uses the same filter ringsize. For that reason, I have it. The 24 1.8 is not worth it for me as I don't use wide angle that much anyway.

[@pastilance1]

Thanks for the great review mate! I just bought the two lenses of off ebay impulsively and can't wait to find out which one would suit me better.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Glad I could help! How do you like the lenses?

[@pastilance1]

@@LucaBono.Studio still waiting on delivery, but will update you once I get to play with them. Cheers 🍻

[@weizongyoung]

Hi, I bought an s5, I now have a 2060, a manual lens 50 1.4, Panasonic 70 300. I was wondering if I would change the 2060 to a 24105 or a Panasonic 2470 2.8. My purpose is to take photos and video records while traveling.
In China, 2060 200 euros, 24,105,700 euros, G 2470 2.8 1,000 euros.
The price of 2060 is much cheaper than the other two lenses. It seems that there is no need to spend so much money to replace 2060.😁😁

[@LucaBono.Studio]

You'll be good with the 20-60mm...that's the only lumix s zoom lens I've now

[@Skylda]

i choose the 20-60mm because i got it for like 48€ when we consider the naked s5ii price for 2000€. and you have a wider view.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

That's a great price! Have fun with it!

[@adambaileyshow361]

Great video! I love my 24-105.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Thanks for watching!

[@MadAudiofficial]

Great review, just purchased the S5ii with the 20-60 but the 24-105 It would have been the best choice, especially for stabilization. Do you think the 24-105 with F4 will handle good dark situations? Thank you for the help.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Thanks! The Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 will be a better lens to buy. I got mine a month ago and it's very good!

[@avengersassemble3063]

Hi. Great Video. My use is for photos and also for making TH-cam videos. Is the 24-105mm the right choice for me ? Thanks.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Hi! The 24-105mm is optically better than the 20-60mm. The lens stabilization is also helpful if you film videos run and gun, without gimbal... I would get the 24-105mm. Cheers!

[@LucaBono.Studio]

And I'll really appreciate if will use one of the link in the description, if you would like to support the channel 😁❤️✌🏻

[@vladislavihl]

I use the 20-60mm f3.5-5.6 kit lens and a 70-200mm f4.0 lens for my landscape photos and videos. I’m pretty happy with the performance of both lenses but the lenses’ exchange is really annoying!…

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Nice setup! Yes, swapping lenses outdoor is not the best with mirrorless cameras 😔

[@gailguardian1203]

Hi luca, had you tried using your s5 on 24-105mm in gimbal? If yes, does it balance well?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Yo! Yes, with the Ronin RS2 I was able to balance the S5 with the 24-105 F4. But I don't have the 24-105mm anymore. Cheers!

[@gailguardian1203]

@@LucaBono.Studio hi luca, do you choose to stick with the 20-60mm rather than the 24-105mm?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

No, I kept the 20-60mm just for the vlogs...but I'll probably sell it too. I prefer to use prime lenses. Cheers!

[@kophotograph1803]

I would choose the 24-105, becaus i need the extra reach in Landscape Photography. Nice comparison.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Thank you Oliver! I would make the same choice for landscape photography!

[@Jaymino_]

Hi Luca, thank you for this video, I enjoyed listening about your experience with each lens! I currently have 3 zooms: the 24-105, 20-60 and Sigma 28-70. Three zoom lenses are overkill for my Lumix S5. I want to sell one off- which would you let go? I also do not plan to buy wide aperture-primes.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Hi John! Thanks for the kind words! I would probably get rid of the 20-60mm and 28-70mm...I think you need a prime lens in your kit, like the sigma 35mm or 60mm f2. It's nice to go around with a little prime attached to the S5 ;)

[@lukecerritelli]

@@LucaBono.Studio the new Panasonic primes are nice. The 35mm f1.8 should be out soon.

[@Jaymino_]

@@LucaBono.Studio Hey Luca, thanks for your suggestion. That's a big call to sell both zooms for a prime. I'll have a good think about it. Haha. Keep it up with the videos, Luca 🤙🏻

[@robertbalkovec4087]

This is how reviews have to be done!

[@cbkproduccionesaudiovisual9410]

GRacias por el video, muy bueno!!

[@LucaBono.Studio]

De nada mi amigo! Ciao!

[@itsGAMiE]

Very detailed. I have the 20-60mm but I have been thinking of getting the 24-105mm because of its versatility and the kind of work I do. I have been doing more documentaries and event coverage and having a 24-105mm would be really useful. Are there any other options or prime lens suggestions you can recommend to use alongside 20-60mm. Really trying to weigh my options before deciding on what to go for. Great video

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Thanks! I've sold all my Lumix S lenses and I'm using only the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 for event videography. I'm very happy with this lens but if you need a longer reach than 70mm, the 24-105mm f4 could be a better option for you. For the type of work you do, the 20-60mm is a no go imho...you want a zoom with a constant aperture. Cheers!

[@itsGAMiE]

@@LucaBono.Studio Thanks for the suggestion. I am familiar with 24-70mm f2.8. It's a very versatile lens. I guess it's between these 2 lenses you recommended. Cheers

[@KaloianKalchevVideographer]

Hi, I have the 20-60, the 50th mm too and a Sigma 18-35 DN f1.8 from my GH5 for Nic with L adapter for my S5. Do you think that last lens is a great choice? Can it replace a 28-70 Sigma for example?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I think that the 18-35 is a great and fast lens for video work. Just keep what you have...maybe just add a 135mm prime lens to your kit

[@Italiainauto]

Grazie, era proprio la prova che cercavo. Hai avuto modo di provare anche il 24 70 Lumix? Che costicchia un po' di più ma dovrebbe avere un doppio motore autofocus.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

No, mai provato il lumix 24-70 f2.8. Di recente ho comprato il Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 e mi trovo bene

[@magnusgotander4064]

No question for the comming S5/SH1 comparison but a HUGE wisch for a more proffessional camerabody when it comes to speed and buffering then all "S" or "R" cameras. Can you fix that ?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

With the 30fps, JPEGs only, 6k photo mode. Or Jpegs on one SD and RAW on the fast SD.
But yes, we need a professional photo camera for sport, I agree!

[@RhettThompsonFilm]

I was planning on making this exact video soon! I’ll have to see if our conclusions are the same…

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Good luck mate hahaha! I'll stay tuned for it ;)

[@urbansoban2669]

Great video. How about comparing 24-105 and the Sigma 24-70?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I sold the 24-105 😅

[@SeanMiller318]

Nice review. 👍👍

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Glad you liked it

[@lumixS5M2]

Thanks for videio info. How is 24-105mm F4 in lowlight using a S5II ?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

You're welcome! In lowlight I would use an f1.8/f2 prime lens to avoid noise. Cheers!

[@TopshelfJunior]

Was wondering that too. Trying to figure out if I want the 24-105 because it has I.S., or the 24-70 because it's a 2.8, or a prime 35mm because it's 1.8...

[@bradleyjpaolucci]

I bought it on Amazon in Canada and there is no 24-105 option

[@chandanprakash2002]

That's what i was wondering too. No such option in the UK.

[@mattiaiotti7145]

A question, is the 24-105 zoom ring soft enough for a rubber gear and remote follow focus ?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I think you will need the hard plastic focus gear. Check Simmod for the best gear adapters. Cheers

[@mattiaiotti7145]

@@LucaBono.Studio Thank you, very helpful

[@biskero]

getting the bew BMPCC full frame 6k so considering one of these two, second hand, any suggestion?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

24-105mm f4 for the OIS ✌🏻

[@igi81lm]

Ciao Luca, sono indeciso tra il 20 60 e il 105. Lo userei prevalentemente per video. Mi piacerebbe avere un obbiettivo allround anche per portabilità. Però dal canto suo il 105 ha la stabilizzazione sull obbiettivo. Mentre il 60 la portabilità e un po più di luce. Grazie anticipatamente. E complimenti per il canale

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Ciao Luigi! Io andrei di 24-105 F4...con la doppia stabilizzazione puoi lasciare a casa il gimbal oppure il treppiede. Quindi in realta' ti porti dietro un sistema piu' leggero col 24-105. Otticamente parlando il 20-60 e' inferiore al 24-105... -1 stop di gamma dinamica (ha un contrasto che fa schifo)

[@igi81lm]

Grazie Mille! Gentilissimo ero un po spaventato dall ingombro ma come dici te penso di Maggior qualità. E più polivalente. Andrò sul 105 Grazie ancora!

[@dukefamilyadventures]

I have the sigma 14-24 and use it a lot for resort and room tours but it is a 2.8. I usually fine the 20mm as the nice spot for room tours. But some of the rooms and resorts do not have great lighting. Anybody have experience with the 20-60 3.5 in some low light. I mean not dark but just lower light settings.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

The 20-60 suffers from chromatic aberrations if used wide open...stick with the Sigma 14-24 or buy the Sigma 20mm F2 prime. Cheers!

[@SebastianForssman]

You need to adress that when the flick the stabilization switch off the lens the IBIS is off aswell. I have the 24-70 f2.8 and the 20-60. Both is great but the 24-70 is more of a premium piece.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Yes, that's true and annoying at the same time...I wish I could have kept the OIS on the lens, while turning off the IBIS, to avoid the warping edges problem. Cheers!

[@kyleledotnet]

Do you think the 20-60 variable aperture makes a big difference for videos?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

It can be annoying if you constantly change the focal length. I simply use it as a 28mm f4 prime lens and I'm fine with it 😅

[@kyleledotnet]

@@LucaBono.Studio So video wise, run and gun, the 24-105 is probably the better bet to get more consistent clips right? Do you find the size difference to be a deal breaker? I am coming from the Micro 4/3 set up and often use small prime lens, so this has me worried about weight and portability.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Yes, the 24-105 is better for that. You could also consider the sigma 28-70 f2.8

[@kyleledotnet]

@@LucaBono.Studio I think for the similar price point, I much rather go for the 24 to 105 since it has stabilization and I will likely just get one faster prime portrait lens, but I think 24-105 will be all I need for a while since the F4 should be okay as I only shoot with F1.8 or F2.8 on Micro 4/3rds now and the background blur is good enough.

[@deadman8816]

10:24 did you use any mist filter? or is that native flare?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I used a black promist 1/4

[@sjmedia_official]

As I remember your S5 was broken?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Yes it was. The repair center replaced the IBIS and sensor of the camera under warranty.

[@alijalili5204]

Hi Luca, as always great Video: do you see any difference in AF Speed between S1 and S5 ? (using the same lenses)

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Not really...they've the same AF performances. Thanks for watching!

[@kennethgooswit3697]

Canon 24- 105 with the sigma MC-21. The lens is a macro lens

[@chandanprakash2002]

Camera body might be inexpensive but lenses are very expensive, making whole package costlier than competitors.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I don't think the lenses are so much expensive, considering that they've nice features.

[@Ulisesdimensiondelarte]

Good info

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Thanks mate!

[@mex5341]

i think you dont need to buy 24-105 if you have 20-60. instead buy 28-70 2.8

[@chandanprakash2002]

Well, 20to 60 coming for 200 pounds as a kit lens in the UK. 24 to 105 not available as a kit at all. Separately, 24 to 105 selling for 1299 pounds. So too much of difference.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Oh it's bad that they don't offer the 24-105 as kit too... optically it's a better lens.

[@aquaphoenixx]

Do you think that the 24-105 F4 will be good enough for night club photos and videos?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

No, it will be too slow. You'll need an f2 or f1.4 lens and a flash

[@aquaphoenixx]

@@LucaBono.Studio Thanks!
I found a deal for the Panasonic LUMIX S5 with the 20-60mm kit lens and a Panasonic 35mm F/1.8 for 500€ LESS than the 24-105 F4.

[@marcoriggi9173]

Luca 20 60 Is have less distortion at 24 , for the sharprning depend by the copy... Sure 20 60 have more character then 24 105... 24 105 Is a flat Lens.

[@markshirley01]

The dust getting in there wouldnt be ideal. Ive always used primes so far Ive not had that problem.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Yeah the weather sealings aren't that great...

[@sergiypervun]

Hi Luca, do you know if Sigma 24-70 2.8 or Sigma 28-70 2.8 L-mount has usable AF in a video? Any chance of testing and reviewing Sigma lenses? Thank you.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Hey Sergiy! I never had the chance to try Sigma lenses and I don't think I'll be able to test or review them any time soon...I will not buy modern lenses anymore. Thanks for watching!

[@sergiypervun]

@@LucaBono.Studio Could you tell me why? I’m going to buy my first FF camera and thinking about S5, switching from Canon M50. That’s why thinking which first lenses to buy for S5. Just curious what’s your opinion on that.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

There are too many reasons...I'll make a video about it, many people asked me this question. If you need usable AF in video, you should stick with native Panasonic lenses (zoom or primes)

[@sergiypervun]

@@LucaBono.Studio I see. Looking forward to the video!

[@marcoriggi9173]

Yes with afs 24 105 Is faster on S1 by a Little

[@babymixswing2269]

Will you buy S5 markii?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I don't think so...here in Europe, the S5II costs 700 euros more than a brand new the S5 + 50mm f1.8

[@babymixswing2269]

@@LucaBono.Studio Understood!

[@alexbpunkt1875]

I wanna buy a new camera but for me, te S5 Mark II is still out of budget. So I think I will go with Lumix S5 for now because Im more a stills guy anyway and I will skip one generation. When the Mark 3 comes out I still can switch to the Mark 2 :)

[@babymixswing2269]

@@alexbpunkt1875 This is the wisest choice. It's like buying an iPhone 13 more than an iPhone 14 now!

[@LucaBono.Studio]

For stills, I would get the S1...the tilt screen and big viewfinder are much faster to work with 👍🏻 my 2ct

[@deanisplemoni]

The 20-60 just shoots better at 20mm than the 24-105 does, so it's the 20-60 for me...

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Did you mean 24mm? The 24-105 can't go as wide as 20mm lol....
Anyway if you meant 24mm, yes at 24mm the 20-60 is sharper in the corners but it still has more CA and a 2/3 stops less dynamic range (more contrasty) than the 24-105 F4. At least that's what I see on my copies of the lenses ;)
Thanks for watching Dean!

[@EelsThe]

Price difference here is now 250 vs 1200 euros... which seems a much bigger difference.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Mmmmh...that's like double the price. I think you can buy it directly from pergear website, with the normal price. Cheers!

[@bradleyjpaolucci]

I shot a wedding on the 20-60mm which you can see on my account!

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Cool mate! The 20-60mm is totally usable for wedding videos! Cheers

[@bradleyjpaolucci]

Would you recommend getting the 50mm or 80mm next? I have 2 manual lenses Tamron 90mm 2.8 and Canon FD 50mm 1.4. Or maybe something else?

[@LucaBono.Studio]

I would add a fast wide angle lens, like a 24/25/28mm f2...if you like to film in s35 crop, that's the lens you can glue on your camera!

[@LiveEventStreamItalia]

Ciao🤣