Great video, Dr. LaHue, thanks! It's very much akin to the presentation of the 9 types that Claudio Naranjo does in "The Enneagram of society" ("El Eneagrama de la sociedad"): a round circle where each Type naturally blends into the next. Naranjo did not use family roles or archetypes in this particular way, but he did add how there's a natural flux of energy that morphs 1 into 2 then into 3 and so on. You apply that here too, especially with the left side: how detached 5 attach at 6 then stand out at 7 the opt out at 8 and finally rest at peace at 9. The right side is a bit trickier with your take but you can see it quite easily if you start from the bottom: detached 5 start longing for an identity to get recognition (external judge) at 4 then find it and show selfishly it at 3, then actually give and nurture from it at 2 while still wanting recognition, then become rigid in this stance and actually disappointed by the whole recognition and interiorize the "judge" at 1, while finally giving it up and resting at peace at 9.
WOW, WOW and AMEN!! Your video arrived as a suggested video to view. I have not subscribed to studying the enneagram but your video has me hooked on discovering more about it. This truly is an answer to understanding who I Am. Thank you for sharing. The timing of me receiving this is perfectly amazing!!
Thank you so much for these videos! I'm relatively new to the enneagram (a 7 as well), and your videos have been so helpful in the process of understanding all the types, wings, and subtypes. Thank you for your time and dedication to teaching others what you've learned! :)
My thinking was to look at each as a piece of family, but different perspective of that energy within the familial unit both as parent types and children. I've outlined my reasoning for each type below: Type one: Strict Father (grew up with a parent or older sibling who was critical, had expectations on them, or they placed expectations on themselves to fulfill a parental role that was absent (ie: in case of a single-parent family where one of the parents was missing, so they took on that role of father-- setting the tone of expectations for the group)). Type two: Nurturing Mother (grew up with a large family where they were expected to take on the role of caregiver to younger siblings, could have grown up with a single-parent family as well, where they were fulfilling a missing role of a parent to give care and attention to others where care and attention were absent) Type three: Oldest Child (likely first-born, had a lot of responsibility to uphold familial values/expectations, had to be the role-model for the rest of the children, constantly compared to the others- leading to overachievement) Type Four: Middle Child (stuck in the center and needed to leave their mark on the world, to be different so that they could be seen apart from their siblings/peers, felt that they were constantly being compared to their siblings/peers and needed to stand apart from them to be seen even if rebelling against familial expectation/standards) Type Five: Only Child (in a family where the parents are involved in their own thing and the child has to do their own thing in their own room, often left alone to play/study, likely older parents or older siblings who have moved on out of the house) Type Six: Foster Child (child who hasn't belonged, who has seen the unpredictability and instability of the world, had parents who either were mostly absent or had many commitments (perhaps even a disability that kept the household tumultuous or unsteady/unpredictable), longed to be attached, longed to be a part of the group, so then entered the fold of another family/organization/peer-group and joined them and their group, attaching themselves to them) Type Seven: Youngest Child (child who is given time to experience on their own, the parents have already invested time and energy in the other children if there are any, and they don't invest as much time in entertaining the youngest so they end up getting more of what they want, are left to do their own thing, left to their own devices) Type Eight: Orphan Child (child who is raising themselves, who needs to take control and grow up too fast, who may have been the oldest in a single parent family (where the mother/father works a lot and then the child has to take care of the rest of the kids)) Type Nine: Forgotten Child (could be oldest or youngest, but may feel like they are rarely seen/heard, has to mediate familial conflicts too soon (as a parent would because they may be relied on as a partner instead of as a child), tends to get left at the store or the daycare for long periods because the parent/s are so busy doing/worrying about other things and forgets them, may have a sibling with a disability that takes more time from them or they feel their needs cannot be expressed because their sibling has more needs than they do).
The cliché of the 4 envious of his brother wasn't my case at all, on the contrary, I always realised that behind my parents invalidating me, I was yet their favourite son. And It's key to tell the real source of the 4 complex of inferiority and lack of self-esteem, parent's invalidation, instead of confining to the effects.
So is there any real basis for thinking that the Enneagram actually arose with these roles/energies in mind, or are you just making this all up as you go?
I ran across a video on youtube about a year ago that was made probably 8-10 years prior where I picked up this concept. It may have even been older than that. It is the only place where I heard this idea. I have never read it in any of the books, but I think it helps people remember each type's basic inclination.
Great video, Dr. LaHue, thanks!
It's very much akin to the presentation of the 9 types that Claudio Naranjo does in "The Enneagram of society" ("El Eneagrama de la sociedad"): a round circle where each Type naturally blends into the next. Naranjo did not use family roles or archetypes in this particular way, but he did add how there's a natural flux of energy that morphs 1 into 2 then into 3 and so on.
You apply that here too, especially with the left side: how detached 5 attach at 6 then stand out at 7 the opt out at 8 and finally rest at peace at 9.
The right side is a bit trickier with your take but you can see it quite easily if you start from the bottom: detached 5 start longing for an identity to get recognition (external judge) at 4 then find it and show selfishly it at 3, then actually give and nurture from it at 2 while still wanting recognition, then become rigid in this stance and actually disappointed by the whole recognition and interiorize the "judge" at 1, while finally giving it up and resting at peace at 9.
Amazing. Big like 👍 such an awesome and easy to understand explanation❤
WOW, WOW and AMEN!!
Your video arrived as a suggested video to view. I have not subscribed to studying the enneagram but your video has me hooked on discovering more about it.
This truly is an answer to understanding who I Am. Thank you for sharing. The timing of me receiving this is perfectly amazing!!
Thank you so much for these videos! I'm relatively new to the enneagram (a 7 as well), and your videos have been so helpful in the process of understanding all the types, wings, and subtypes. Thank you for your time and dedication to teaching others what you've learned! :)
Straight forward and down to earth. It makes so much sense. Thank you for sharing your creative image of the Enneagram. Very helpful. (Type 4 :))
My thinking was to look at each as a piece of family, but different perspective of that energy within the familial unit both as parent types and children. I've outlined my reasoning for each type below:
Type one: Strict Father (grew up with a parent or older sibling who was critical, had expectations on them, or they placed expectations on themselves to fulfill a parental role that was absent (ie: in case of a single-parent family where one of the parents was missing, so they took on that role of father-- setting the tone of expectations for the group)).
Type two: Nurturing Mother (grew up with a large family where they were expected to take on the role of caregiver to younger siblings, could have grown up with a single-parent family as well, where they were fulfilling a missing role of a parent to give care and attention to others where care and attention were absent)
Type three: Oldest Child (likely first-born, had a lot of responsibility to uphold familial values/expectations, had to be the role-model for the rest of the children, constantly compared to the others- leading to overachievement)
Type Four: Middle Child (stuck in the center and needed to leave their mark on the world, to be different so that they could be seen apart from their siblings/peers, felt that they were constantly being compared to their siblings/peers and needed to stand apart from them to be seen even if rebelling against familial expectation/standards)
Type Five: Only Child (in a family where the parents are involved in their own thing and the child has to do their own thing in their own room, often left alone to play/study, likely older parents or older siblings who have moved on out of the house)
Type Six: Foster Child (child who hasn't belonged, who has seen the unpredictability and instability of the world, had parents who either were mostly absent or had many commitments (perhaps even a disability that kept the household tumultuous or unsteady/unpredictable), longed to be attached, longed to be a part of the group, so then entered the fold of another family/organization/peer-group and joined them and their group, attaching themselves to them)
Type Seven: Youngest Child (child who is given time to experience on their own, the parents have already invested time and energy in the other children if there are any, and they don't invest as much time in entertaining the youngest so they end up getting more of what they want, are left to do their own thing, left to their own devices)
Type Eight: Orphan Child (child who is raising themselves, who needs to take control and grow up too fast, who may have been the oldest in a single parent family (where the mother/father works a lot and then the child has to take care of the rest of the kids))
Type Nine: Forgotten Child (could be oldest or youngest, but may feel like they are rarely seen/heard, has to mediate familial conflicts too soon (as a parent would because they may be relied on as a partner instead of as a child), tends to get left at the store or the daycare for long periods because the parent/s are so busy doing/worrying about other things and forgets them, may have a sibling with a disability that takes more time from them or they feel their needs cannot be expressed because their sibling has more needs than they do).
i think this is a great perspective! thank you for sharing
My new favorite video about enneagram basics!!!
8 starts at 13:13
😂 baby and a switch blade, That’s delightful
Great info, well explained. Thanks!
The cliché of the 4 envious of his brother wasn't my case at all, on the contrary, I always realised that behind my parents invalidating me, I was yet their favourite son. And It's key to tell the real source of the 4 complex of inferiority and lack of self-esteem, parent's invalidation, instead of confining to the effects.
So accurate, thank you!
Brilliant
I am all about birth order typology
How funny ... I'm a 4 and the 2nd child.
Always have been detached ...😁🤩😙🙄😏
9 as old soul
So is there any real basis for thinking that the Enneagram actually arose with these roles/energies in mind, or are you just making this all up as you go?
I ran across a video on youtube about a year ago that was made probably 8-10 years prior where I picked up this concept. It may have even been older than that. It is the only place where I heard this idea. I have never read it in any of the books, but I think it helps people remember each type's basic inclination.
Uggg not even close. I’ve read a lot and this explanation doesn’t fit.