@@antonroux6737 It depends on what you prefer. It handles well, corners very nicely but if you like to feel and hear the road, forget it. The 2020 Legacy is a luxury sedan at a mid-range price. I'd still take it over anything else in the class. I don't really have any complaints. I like the big infotainment screen but when the sun shines on it you cant see anything.
@@antonroux6737 It's not often that the sun comes in at the right angle to obscure the screen, so that's not a big deal. It has all the safety tech you get these days, and it's a good thing, I'm an old guy and I need all the help I can get. The warnings that something is behind you when backing up is great, the blind spot monitoring is great, the forward and reverse emergency braking has already saved me a few times from bumping into stuff. Like everyone else I hate having to turn off Auto-Start-Stop all the time, but that's with every car these days.
Torque split numbers are misleading - if the car’s on flat ground and the center coupling is closed then the torque split is just the weight distribution of the car. If the front is on ice and the rear on dry pavement then it’s basically 0/100 f/r. It’s more meaningful to ask whether that center coupling can stay locked in 1st gear at max engine torque, traction allowing - and how aggressively traction control engages that center coupling. If the center coupling can fully lock in 1st gear then you can have 100/0 or 0/100 f/r torque split depending on the traction situation.
It's hard to imagine the new H4 turbo improving on the 3.6R 6 engine. The H6 is practically vibration free and easily reaches it's governor limit of 135 mph. I'm completely satisfied with my 2017.
@@CarQuestion Going to a lighter, cheaper to build turbo h4 that has the potential to be more efficient makes complete sense. I respectfully disagree with the h4 being vibrationless. It has less vibration than v or inline engines (sans a counter rotating shaft, that is) the physics of the boxer six lessens vibration past the h4 on the crankshaft. If the new Legacy is governed like the 3.6R, I'll predict 135 mph as the top speed lol. We'll have to wait and see how long it takes to get there. I'm sure anyone who drives the new Legacy will be impressed, especially with the eyesight system and the wonderful comfort level. Thanks for the video.
Very impressive offering from Subaru. If only it was not a CVT, atleast offer a manual for the turbo model. Beside that impressive interior and AWD performance.
Actually the high torque lineartronic CVT of Subaru is quite impressive. It keeps MAX torque across a broad range from around 1800 rpm to 4800 rpm with their turbo cars, which is maximum work done on all 4 wheels. My 2017 Forester XT stock has smoked brand new 2019 BMW 530i M sport in traffic.
Thank you, just picking this up now. At 7:01 you say much more horsepower for the turbo engine if you use premium fuel. I can’t find any reference to this in the Subaru literature (unlike Mazda who are quite specific). Could you provide some numbers please?
thinking of trading my 2015 Leggy in for an XT (^__^)...i used to have an 05 Leg GT and that was about as stealthy a sports car ever...even with the scoop LOL...this new generation is carrying on that tradition and even though i miss the manual trans, the CVT really shines in mid range passing ability, like accelerating 60 to 80 to jynk through a gap in traffic...i imagine with the turbo, that mid range pull will be even more...profound and entertaining.
Same. I have a 15 legacy limited, and loving the look of the new turbo one. Only wish the wheels were a bit more aggressive looking. Not liking the stock wheels
I'm in the market for one, but coming from a BRZ I'm not sure how much I'll enjoy the car. A little worried but no choice, gotta compromise for a family sedan with safety in mind. How did you find the turbo ? I heard some reviews say the steering is numb and suspension a little too soft. Would making the steering and suspension harder make this feel a little sportier ?
from a BRZ RWD to a Legacy AWD ( turbo ) I hope! Well youre not gonna take the curves at the same speed but you will like it so much for ample space and quietness inside! Your back will thank you! Note that there is some lag from a standstill but love when it's time to pass on the highway. Steering and suspension are normal.it needs a sports mode for that!
The look is kind of boring, but it doesn't bother me. It's conservative and will still look okay after a few years. I'm very interested in test driving one.
I have not found that to be the case. I was out in mine today on a sunny day, noticed no reflection. The screen is really bright at night, but it can be adjusted.
@@eisiebuddaie3551 OK.. main impressions.. The technology is mind blowing to me, but I guess most top trim new cars have these features. The doors close with a very solid thud. It cushions bumps really well. The cabin is super quiet. It handles beautifully. Braking is phenomenal. It has lots of power. My 160 HP '06 Impreza probably had more jump, but it was a lot lighter car. The overall understated look I find very cool. The lights are sexy.
Hi! There js no si drive or sports mode! This was filmed in bc, Canada near Kalamalka Lake and around! Check out this link www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sxsrf=ACYBGNSnaJ8rjvAi6KNY_UONpqRFJJ2_Ag:1569497775771&q=kalamalka+lake&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjg5Znrsu7kAhUOVN8KHba7D3YQBSgAegQIChAC&biw=412&bih=718&dpr=2.63
@@CarQuestion wow. Being that the Legacy is a sports sedan Subaru should have considered putting the SI drive on it to enhance the 2.4DIT. It works very well in my Forester. The sport mode and the sport# eases the lag of the cvt.
i gotta say... the previous generation looks way a lot better! the rims on the new ones look horrendous! the rear looks old corolla and looks small... exterior wise i prefer the previous one
I know that a manual option is apparently too much to ask for these days.... But could they at least drop the fucking CVT on the XT version in favor of a proper automatic (maybe a DSG)?
I would only lease the Legacy. Just because I could not see that 12” screen lasting very long when out of warranty. And when the temperature dips below -30 for a month
I'm Still Alive but would those aftermarket ones still work the HVAC? What about the heated seats? What about the rear window defogger? Nope. No aftermarket screen will work with those systems. Especially when that screen is essentially the centre stack.
I got in an argument with this 45 year old at my work who was boasting about his 2016 Subaru Legacy and then he said it was turboed and I said no it’s not not knowing shit about the new legacy’s engines and we went back and forth and I had to do some research and I think I was right. Al though I didn’t know they made turboed legacy’s 2020
Despite many great improvements, I was hoping they would push the needle a little bit more on this. Maybe the refresh will add a manual in the sport version. Otherwise, probably looking at moving towards the Kia Stinger for my next car!
I was asking because my father is planning on buying new Outback. Our subaru dealer said, that they only sell the 1.6 hybrid ones in europe, all 2.4, 2.5 etc is for America. If only 1.6 hybrid comes, then i think we wont buy Subaru. Thats why I asked
Lets do something !! Take out your camera and record yourself saying : Les chemises de l'archiduchesse sont-elles sèches, archi-sèches ? Then send it to us :)
sweet sweet هذي كانت مشكله اما الآن تغيرالوكيل قطع غيارها متوفره والوكيل ماله دخل. الشركه الام لاتريد سوق الخليج تركيزها على امريكا واسرائيل وكندا والان لها توجه اخر للخليج
@@vavo4902 basically its very well optimized and tourqe vectoring working better than Subaru which is very old. Hyundai HTRAC system can send engine power/torque between front and rear wheels up to 90/10 percent and thanks to 8 speed transmission in Hyundai which is more powerful than CVT in Subaru that can handle up to 60/40 front/rear wheels only and 50/50 at low speed. Just search about HTRAC system in TH-cam there is good explanation
Era of non-performance Subaru in action .. Very sad... If in BM9 Legacy there was an option for petrolheads to have some fun with stick and some speed, now only business, family, odd safety options. Damn so frustrated.
yeah a manual would be nice...but it think Subbie is trying to aim at hitting a different mark with the new Legacy...stepping it up in class....and keeping the WRX line as the performance benchmarket for the brand ;)
@@Deredeo Yeah I agree but, WRX is not available for everyone (price, service) it is also not practical for everyday driver..(small, low, stiff, noisy). No doubt, Legacy is getting closer to "business car and luxury" class, but I think semi-sport version should have been suggested as well..
@@CarQuestion 1.powerful 10 speed transmission 2. Amazing 2.0T engine 3. low ground clearance (Ride height) 4. Dual rack and Pinion steering same steering found in luxury cars which mean stable nice feedback 5. Tons of Features came as standard 6. Build quality
Kevin McGillivray The higher trim TLX uses the ZF-9 transmission, which has slightly worse shift characteristics on the 4-5 and 7-8 shifts. Also the gap between 1st and 2nd is rather wide so it’s less refined than hondas in-house 10 speed
Will you opt for an SUV or a Sedan the next time you buy a Car?
Car Question depends on my budget 😂
@@MrAWD-ox3gk how much? :P
Car Question no more then $400,000
A sedan.. I have no real need for a suv and sedans usually handle and ride better.
Myself, a performance sedan, but my wife, probably a Kia Telluride SX
Just drove the 2021 today. Really impressed with this car. Extremely solid. Love the turbo and interior. This is a steal for what you get.
I got mine a week ago and I love it! It's a sleeper.
Very good choice 👍💪
@@antonroux6737 It depends on what you prefer. It handles well, corners very nicely but if you like to feel and hear the road, forget it. The 2020 Legacy is a luxury sedan at a mid-range price. I'd still take it over anything else in the class. I don't really have any complaints. I like the big infotainment screen but when the sun shines on it you cant see anything.
@@antonroux6737
It's not often that the sun comes in at the right angle to obscure the screen, so that's not a big deal. It has all the safety tech you get these days, and it's a good thing, I'm an old guy and I need all the help I can get. The warnings that something is behind you when backing up is great, the blind spot monitoring is great, the forward and reverse emergency braking has already saved me a few times from bumping into stuff. Like everyone else I hate having to turn off Auto-Start-Stop all the time, but that's with every car these days.
Torque split numbers are misleading - if the car’s on flat ground and the center coupling is closed then the torque split is just the weight distribution of the car. If the front is on ice and the rear on dry pavement then it’s basically 0/100 f/r.
It’s more meaningful to ask whether that center coupling can stay locked in 1st gear at max engine torque, traction allowing - and how aggressively traction control engages that center coupling. If the center coupling can fully lock in 1st gear then you can have 100/0 or 0/100 f/r torque split depending on the traction situation.
definitely getting the touring XT but with the spoiler
Good Choice
It's hard to imagine the new H4 turbo improving on the 3.6R 6 engine. The H6 is practically vibration free and easily reaches it's governor limit of 135 mph. I'm completely satisfied with my 2017.
There is no vibration with that new engine! For the top speed, we don't know for now :P
@@CarQuestion Going to a lighter, cheaper to build turbo h4 that has the potential to be more efficient makes complete sense. I respectfully disagree with the h4 being vibrationless. It has less vibration than v or inline engines (sans a counter rotating shaft, that is) the physics of the boxer six lessens vibration past the h4 on the crankshaft. If the new Legacy is governed like the 3.6R, I'll predict 135 mph as the top speed lol. We'll have to wait and see how long it takes to get there. I'm sure anyone who drives the new Legacy will be impressed, especially with the eyesight system and the wonderful comfort level. Thanks for the video.
H4 motors are vibration free regardless.
That's why there's no harmonic balancer, just a crank pulley for the serpentine belt.
@@gpalmerify no such thing as a boxer 6, only h4 motors are considered boxers.
@@MidwestDankAlumni Untrue
Very impressive offering from Subaru. If only it was not a CVT, atleast offer a manual for the turbo model. Beside that impressive interior and AWD performance.
indeed, can't wait to send that one sideways during winter :P
They should at least offer an 8 speed
Most people complain about manual, but i bet if they offered one you won’t buy either
Actually the high torque lineartronic CVT of Subaru is quite impressive. It keeps MAX torque across a broad range from around 1800 rpm to 4800 rpm with their turbo cars, which is maximum work done on all 4 wheels.
My 2017 Forester XT stock has smoked brand new 2019 BMW 530i M sport in traffic.
@@AliSalahat I would order one on the spot actually. I would even hug them if it was a wagon.
I love the turbo engine, but i will miss the 6 cylinder engine.
Yeah we also liked it!
Thank you, just picking this up now. At 7:01 you say much more horsepower for the turbo engine if you use premium fuel. I can’t find any reference to this in the Subaru literature (unlike Mazda who are quite specific). Could you provide some numbers please?
Fantastic Legacy with Turbo… cool video
thinking of trading my 2015 Leggy in for an XT (^__^)...i used to have an 05 Leg GT and that was about as stealthy a sports car ever...even with the scoop LOL...this new generation is carrying on that tradition and even though i miss the manual trans, the CVT really shines in mid range passing ability, like accelerating 60 to 80 to jynk through a gap in traffic...i imagine with the turbo, that mid range pull will be even more...profound and entertaining.
You can see the acceleration here: th-cam.com/video/5WAJswkZUM0/w-d-xo.html
:)
אין על סובארו רכבים יחודיים במינם נאמבר 1.
Same. I have a 15 legacy limited, and loving the look of the new turbo one. Only wish the wheels were a bit more aggressive looking. Not liking the stock wheels
Still Love the old model
I'm in the market for one, but coming from a BRZ I'm not sure how much I'll enjoy the car. A little worried but no choice, gotta compromise for a family sedan with safety in mind.
How did you find the turbo ? I heard some reviews say the steering is numb and suspension a little too soft. Would making the steering and suspension harder make this feel a little sportier ?
from a BRZ RWD to a Legacy AWD ( turbo ) I hope! Well youre not gonna take the curves at the same speed but you will like it so much for ample space and quietness inside! Your back will thank you! Note that there is some lag from a standstill but love when it's time to pass on the highway. Steering and suspension are normal.it needs a sports mode for that!
Get an STi or WRX... same seat configuration need extra storage get a roof rack.
@@jasonhall3693 not the same comfort and everyday refinement! But they sure are fun to drive!
@@CarQuestion Who needs comfort 😂😂😂
Want comfort get a Benz
Then get a wrx. Subaru didn’t build it to compare to a wrx more like the accord or new Camry
Hood scoop! We want hood scoop for the turbocharged legacy
The look is kind of boring, but it doesn't bother me. It's conservative and will still look okay after a few years. I'm very interested in test driving one.
go try it and tell us what you think!
really like it but no 360 surround view cam which is a must have for my wife
360 view is available on top trim.
that infotainment glass is so reflective i'd have to think it's very hard to see during bright days.
I have not found that to be the case. I was out in mine today on a sunny day, noticed no reflection. The screen is really bright at night, but it can be adjusted.
@@leechap3 what are your thoughts on the car?
@@eisiebuddaie3551 OK.. main impressions.. The technology is mind blowing to me, but I guess most top trim new cars have these features. The doors close with a very solid thud. It cushions bumps really well. The cabin is super quiet. It handles beautifully. Braking is phenomenal. It has lots of power. My 160 HP '06 Impreza probably had more jump, but it was a lot lighter car. The overall understated look I find very cool. The lights are sexy.
It might depend on the drivers height and seating position. But I had the same thought.
@@leechap3 I certainly like the fit and finish but very disappointing to hear about the power. You have turbo right?
Does it have the SI- drive mode that the Forester and the WRX auto have? Also, where is this place. Looks very nice!
Hi! There js no si drive or sports mode! This was filmed in bc, Canada near Kalamalka Lake and around! Check out this link
www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung-ss&sxsrf=ACYBGNSnaJ8rjvAi6KNY_UONpqRFJJ2_Ag:1569497775771&q=kalamalka+lake&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjg5Znrsu7kAhUOVN8KHba7D3YQBSgAegQIChAC&biw=412&bih=718&dpr=2.63
@@CarQuestion wow. Being that the Legacy is a sports sedan Subaru should have considered putting the SI drive on it to enhance the 2.4DIT. It works very well in my Forester. The sport mode and the sport# eases the lag of the cvt.
@@Jojoboogie I believe I saw SI Mode in the control screens.. I didn't know what it was.
@@leechap3 oh. Ok. I will have to check it out.
Слабо мені зробити з завода нове авто 2009 модельного року аутбек? Ціна питання???
i gotta say... the previous generation looks way a lot better! the rims on the new ones look horrendous! the rear looks old corolla and looks small... exterior wise i prefer the previous one
I know that a manual option is apparently too much to ask for these days.... But could they at least drop the fucking CVT on the XT version in favor of a proper automatic (maybe a DSG)?
I would only lease the Legacy. Just because I could not see that 12” screen lasting very long when out of warranty. And when the temperature dips below -30 for a month
I'm Still Alive but would those aftermarket ones still work the HVAC? What about the heated seats? What about the rear window defogger? Nope. No aftermarket screen will work with those systems. Especially when that screen is essentially the centre stack.
OMG ... THAT accent! 🥰 I could listen to you talk forever!
hello where the video was filmed,thank you
Hello where the video was filmed? Thanks
BC Canada
Spectacular view , thanks
I got in an argument with this 45 year old at my work who was boasting about his 2016 Subaru Legacy and then he said it was turboed and I said no it’s not not knowing shit about the new legacy’s engines and we went back and forth and I had to do some research and I think I was right. Al though I didn’t know they made turboed legacy’s 2020
Despite many great improvements, I was hoping they would push the needle a little bit more on this. Maybe the refresh will add a manual in the sport version. Otherwise, probably looking at moving towards the Kia Stinger for my next car!
I get that but you're buying a Subaru for its AWD..right?
良くない話が出てきました スバルレガシィＢ４ 日本での発売中止です アメリカ・カナダでは発売しますが 日本では発売しない 悲しいです
No wonder, because japanese prefere a kei-cars more than full-size sedans
yeah the B4 was a true sleeping monster...
Does it come to europe?
Of course.
I was asking because my father is planning on buying new Outback. Our subaru dealer said, that they only sell the 1.6 hybrid ones in europe, all 2.4, 2.5 etc is for America. If only 1.6 hybrid comes, then i think we wont buy Subaru. Thats why I asked
@@TheBestGames974 email Subaru. You will get the exact answer you are looking for.
My dream!
Nice Subaru LEGEESSSSSSSSEY!
Lets do something !! Take out your camera and record yourself saying : Les chemises de l'archiduchesse sont-elles sèches, archi-sèches ?
Then send it to us :)
Great job subaru,design more aggrasive look.
Cool video ….
Красивая тачка самобытная
اي افضل الليجاستي ام الهوندا ام الكامري ام هونداي سوناتا
كاستعمال وكرف الليجاسي ، وكقطع غيار رخيصة هونداي ، وكسيارة عادية كامري وهوندا ، لأن الليجاسي قليل اللي يعرفوا يشتغلوها عشان محركها بوكسر ويتعب بالصيانة وكمان الوكيل لك عليه ما يوفر لك القطع
sweet sweet
هذي كانت مشكله اما الآن تغيرالوكيل قطع غيارها متوفره
والوكيل ماله دخل. الشركه الام لاتريد سوق الخليج تركيزها على امريكا واسرائيل وكندا والان لها توجه اخر للخليج
sweet sweet
عندي سؤال
محرك بوكسر هل هو افضل من ناحيه الاداء والصوت وش عيوبه وش مميزاته
@@العوجاء-ج8ز ممتاز اهتزاز اقل ، عزم اقوى ، ثبات للسيارة بالمنعطفات ، عيبه الوحيد صيانته مكلفه ونادر اللي يعرفوا له
sweet sweet
والصوت. هل هو عالي وعمره اطول او اقل
日本でも売ってくれ〜
スバルは日本のメーカーだろ〜！
日本では入手できませんか？！
Aaron Brockington 日本ではまだ古いLegacyとOutbackが売られています。新しいLegacy(Sedan)は発売されないといううわさがあります。
Hyundai HTRAC AWD System over Subaru awd system
Why?
@@vavo4902 basically its very well optimized and tourqe vectoring working better than Subaru which is very old.
Hyundai HTRAC system can send engine power/torque between front and rear wheels up to 90/10 percent and thanks to 8 speed transmission in Hyundai which is more powerful than CVT in Subaru that can handle up to 60/40 front/rear wheels only and 50/50 at low speed.
Just search about HTRAC system in TH-cam there is good explanation
@@MyLife2020 Thanks for that write up. I was genuinely curious.... Heard great things from my Hyundai owning friends too.
@@vavo4902 Latest Hyundai HTRAC system applied only on santa fe 2018, palisade and Genesis I hope Hyundai update Others cars
Get a model 3
Subaru really needs a DCT instead this ridiculously boring CVT
Era of non-performance Subaru in action
.. Very sad... If in BM9 Legacy there was an option for petrolheads to have some fun with stick and some speed, now only business, family, odd safety options. Damn so frustrated.
yeah a manual would be nice...but it think Subbie is trying to aim at hitting a different mark with the new Legacy...stepping it up in class....and keeping the WRX line as the performance benchmarket for the brand ;)
@@Deredeo Yeah I agree but, WRX is not available for everyone (price, service) it is also not practical for everyday driver..(small, low, stiff, noisy). No doubt, Legacy is getting closer to "business car and luxury" class, but I think semi-sport version should have been suggested as well..
with no 3.6 6cly they lost me,i used to be sub man.
ممتاز
Bella e tecnologica ma zero zero zero personalità e lo dico da subarista... la prima era distinguibile da subito.
Dis arTIcle eizzz EieesterIcle, eh?? :D
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ちゃんと『レガシィ』って、表記にしてください。その辺のDQNなスバラーじゃないんですから、車の表記は正確にお願いします！
Honda Accord 2.0T Over any midsized cars
why?
@@CarQuestion
1.powerful 10 speed transmission
2. Amazing 2.0T engine
3. low ground clearance (Ride height)
4. Dual rack and Pinion steering same steering found in luxury cars which mean stable nice feedback
5. Tons of Features came as standard
6. Build quality
@@MyLife2020 But no AWD. What about a TLX SH AWD? That's basically a nicer Accord no?
Kevin McGillivray
The higher trim TLX uses the ZF-9 transmission, which has slightly worse shift characteristics on the 4-5 and 7-8 shifts. Also the gap between 1st and 2nd is rather wide so it’s less refined than hondas in-house 10 speed
Pmo Moph I worry less about slight difference in shift speed, than I prefer AWD vs FWD honestly.
もう日本ではセダンが売れません。
is there snow in japan? :)
所帯持ちも独身も車はミニバンかSUVの時代、走破性、汎用性、リセール、衝突安全性、何をとってもセダンやクーペを買うメリット無し。
メリット無しまで言うのはどうかとおもいますが..
@@29xc 確かに、と、思ってもっかい考えてみた、すまんやっぱりメリットは無かった...
2020 Subaru Legacy Lost their Soul
Leg-uh-see
Not le-gassy
So your only comment is about my french accent.... c'est pathétique !
@@CarQuestion lol
First comment
Boom! :P