I miss when the phrase "don't feed the trolls" was a thing. But with a system where making people angry makes you money but also calling out the people who create rage-bait makes money too then we're sort of stuck with a never ending cycle of garbage
I've also noticed it in the real world. I get yelled at by customers at least once a week for things completely out of my control. These people gorge on hate then go spewing it back out into the world.
I experience that regularly with car drivers after ignoring signs, bike lanes, stop lights, and causing a dangerous situation for me on my bike. Even if I calmly tell them not to drive on the bike lane (for example), I get yelled at. I did nothing wrong and get yelled at or rude gestures. Human society is so f*cked up.
Same here, I usually get yelled at by a customer while she hits me with her purse because she couldn't get a shopping cart because every one of them was taken
I would find a virtually impossible that you're not at least getting some content you would like assuming you actually avoid that content and choose to not engage with it. Cuz it really isn't that hard. But as far as avoiding it completely, I do agree that is virtually impossible. Because if it's even slightly related to anything you've been interested in on the platform, the algorithm is going to try to recommend it to you regardless. Is that the end of the day, they don't care if they engagements positive or negative. The algorithm in higher-ups of the platform just want you to stay on the platform. The longer you're on it, the more the number screw up, the happier their investors are. The algorithms here please them, not you.
Nice cat. Rage bait has kind of infested every part of the web, it was strange watching it evolve on social media platforms that have no monetary or even social reward for it like 4chan.
I feel like a big part of it is also "cringe" accounts reposting people either being goofy or having fun-- or bringing more attention to people who are mentally ill. Its kinda fucked up
Yeah lol like that natalie tran person on tiktok. Does she know that "ironically" being cringe on every video for "le meme" just makes her as cringe as the people she mocks?
People have become too comfortable not being punished. The anonymity of being online let's people be way too hateful and/or just straight up offensive without any real punishment. I (ironically) hate it all. Anyways, I suggest deleting twitter, it's nothing but a cesspool of doddering old folk and degenerates.
I've been saying this too, ppl are too comfortable not thinking twice before they speak online cuz there's no real, immediate consequences to it. Irl you say some dumb shit like that 50% chance you'd end up taking a nap on the sidewalk
I deleted twitter years ago, also i got rid of twitch and instagram too on my phone. I really only watch youtube, but i always use the not interested option when i see anything rage bait like or posing a question where i "wont believe the answer" since 99% of those are completely common knowledge
I also deleted some videos, which i don't like it from history after watching them. Don't want to have them more in my recommendation. Also, using browser extensions like channel blocker and clickbait remover.
Exactly. Thats what ive been doing for some time too. Im so tired of being angry all the time. Fuck this. Id rather watch some minecraft content all day like when i was little than this stupid ragebait and commentary, "the problem with blank", "tiktoks new blank trend is bad" bullshit etc.
It's seeping into everything and affecting our social communication, his example of the car crash smh, most people these days just record and don't do anything to help the situation, it's madness
Social media is so toxic, I'm learning to have a limit to how much i consume of it because of how much they reel you in, click bait, rage bait, super long videos, videos that are not related to what you are looking for and the never ending shorts on tick tock and here, I'm at a point that I'm glad when my internet goes down because i legit get some peace and it encourages me to do something more productive than brain rot 🧠🧠
This, lately I’ve been doing my best to try actively avoid social media and have noticed a genuine difference in how I feel throughout the day, a positive difference
I'm probably totally outside any "target audience" you might have (not a gamer, over 50, still uses Facebook but never used TikTok). Still, I highly enjoy your content and your opinion on things. What you said is also true for Facebook (which is only used by old people nowadays, it seems). The more racist, unempathetic, agitating, minority bashing or spiteful a comment is, the more reactions it gets. I feel a lot of people like myself are so worn out and depressed by that, they don't comment anymore or stopped using Facebook altogether. Which leaves a priority of comments being hateful or anti-something (migrants, LGTBIQ, genderneutral language, the green fraction of our German government). It's a bit off-topic, since you spoke about hate in general and not in a political sense, but a lot of this hate and bashing has a political background. Especially on X and Facebook, it's obvious to overemphasise right-leaning to far-right views. And we all saw what it did to the election in the USA. And I fear what it will do to the election in Germany. That's the even worse part about this "trend". Sorry for this depressing off-topic, but it's very important to know.
Yep exactly. I've been saying this a lot myself. I also still use that horrible, outmoded ass site Facebook, but over the past few years I've unintentionally just stopped using it nearly as much as I used to. I hardly go on there at all anymore, and it has taken such a weight off my shoulders in doing so. However, now my problem is staying away from rage bait on youtube since I depend on this app / site for sleep, information, entertainment, etc.
title is absolutely correct, ragebait is everywhere to some extent: negative reviews = hate company or product x, the rise of true crime, cheaters in anything and of course the news is full of ragebait
I personally believe we as people have grown weak, we get mad so easily at almost anything online and I feel like a lot of us have become reactionaries as a result of it all. Many of my friends used to send me videos dedicated to being mad at a specific topic, like how The Penguin is now a woman in the new Batman animated series (seriously, that’s a stupid thing to bitch about and I found it so satisfying when Serum Lake, a person who actually knows a lot about Batman called these people out on their bs). This type of behavior is making us far less receptive to other arguments. We’ve gone from attempting to understand each other to wishing to outright subjugate the other party for even daring to have a different worldview to ours. This cycle of co-dependence on ragebait to feel something should’ve stopped a long time ago. We’ve destroyed media literacy, we’ve destroyed any semblance of understanding we could’ve once had.. all because we wanted to be angry at something, it’s a blatant addiction a lot of us must drop at all costs.
I am not sure about "people have grown weak". Weak people have always excited, you just didn't know about their existence. Nowadays they are in the spotlight 24/7, thanks to the internet and freedom. To me, it's more like "weak people gained something, that they never knew they needed".
it's even worse if you have that type of autism where you genuinely can't tell when people are being real or not. then the internet just looks more miserable than it already is. stay safe gng.
It doesn't matter if the content is authentic or manufactured rage bait, just block them. They're either too stupid to give your attention to, or exist simply to stir the pot.
Ragebait content is the easiest way to farm clicks nowadays. You will be surprised to see how many people sacrifice dignity and respect to make it big on TH-cam.
Also making fun of people falling for ragebait is so dumb, because like, if you say something horrible, of course someone's gonna get mad. That's normal
True. And I think everyone has fallen for it before, then maybe realized later on that, "Oh, that was probably just rage bait." because the person said something untrue about something the rage bait viewer feels passionate about. Plus sometimes it's not that obvious that something is rage bait.
Something else in the realm of ragebait for engagement is mobile ads. They do a 15 second video of someone pretending to play a shitty game terribly to try to make you play the game.
Btw, this phrase "money can help you but can't buy you fulfilment" literally explains why Elon is a complete idiot. Money won't give him or anybody happiness, loved the video!
I mean i think ragebait has always been in media. Negativity has always been the thing that gets people looking at content because we feel more powerfull about negative emotions. This is becoming a problem because no one wants to think about what they are watching or doing anymore.
After realizing a lot of my favorite TH-camrs videos are negative, forgettable and frankly not very useful commentary videos that I feel nothing for after finishing I realized a lot of them are slop creators. The only one left is Critical because I don’t care he’s a good one. I don’t even consider him one because he ads to it and is funny. Seems like a cool guy too. I actually do remember his and don’t feel ashamed watching him. TurkeyTom on the other hand is bland and forgettable. Watched him for a year and regretted how much time I wasted… Still can’t remember anything about any of their videos like these even after years of watching. It’s sad and distressing coming to this realization. Freeing and happier too.
I've noticed this so much in gaming communities, you just have a bunch of random people online complain and nitpick about how this new game is woke or DEI or doesn't look hyper realistic graphics and then makes video after video after video talking about it. All for it to discover said person isn't even a fan of the community and they're just dunking on a game for easy engagement.
This is the reason why I left Twitter, I was getting pissed off on a daily basis and I realized that maybe that wasn't that great of an idea. Outside of a few times I went on Twitter to look for something real specific, I've been Twitter-free for like a year and a half, maybe even two years. And it's been great. Though every other social media is full of ragebait so it's not like this has gone away but I don't get as pissed off as I did before. Now it's mostly in the comments of videos or reels where you'll find the most ragebaiting and anger fueling stuff, at least on my feed..
Even if thst was true it really shouldn't stay that way. Cholera was a problem since the dawn of time yet we managed to filter the shit out of our water, dont be complacent
Hey man, please keep doing what you're doing. You're doing what you can do to work against the paradigm of negativity-centric content by questioning it with critical thinking. Your videos that I've seen show incremental improvement, and I really enjoy your laid-back/casual pacing and setting, very relatable.
I definitely don't agree that the internet was less angry before, imo it was simply more self contained. I think there was a lot more separate communities before social media kinda became the place we ALL engaged on. As well with basically the entire population hopping online, we went from isolated pockets to the flood gates being opened and it spreading to irl. Maybe it was easier to moderate or walk away from the angry-ness of the old web lol. Now its fucking impossible with everyone being online. I agree with like everything else tho, and I find it really frustrating. I haven't really engaged at all in fandom or on social media in general once I became an adult for this reason. It's so loud and prevalent lol. I find I enjoy people who engage with topics with empathy and compassion, rather than just 'wow look how bad'. But we are seeing a shift with some commentary channels like realizing they're making things worse, which is progress. Emotional intelligence is sorely lacking in most people, we'd all benefit from reflection and responding to thing instead of reacting. ...and therapy lol
I think the partial reason why so many people are angry nowadays is in the increase of communities, but the increase in communities that are just echo chambers. And if you're not on somebody's side whatever that may be, or you don't completely agree with their opinions on 100%, then somehow you're the enemy. How dare you have a different opinion than me random stranger according to the chronically online redditor.
It works, and it will never stop working. The human brain is hard wired to be more interested in potential danger than current safety so we watch the news and worry about bills. I clicked this video because I'm interested in watching someone else address a potential metaphorical threat.
You are spot on with what you said. I can barely be on the internet nowadays since hate is so common now and I have to do so much more work now to reach the really fun and interesting vids and posts out there. I want a return to where the most viral things on the internet were funny videos rather than internet drama. Bring me back to the days of Smosh lip syncs and dramatic gopher!
I usually stay clear of these types of people and content, it's literally so stupid and useless IMO. And I hate the internet culture that most people are online just to correct someone or try to problematise something someone said that is getting attention (out of pure envy or some shit). It's pathetic
Honestly, I want this to continue. I want people to constantly be reminded that throwing out hate is rewarding the people they hate, until our culture finally grows out of it. That we all come together and start shunning not only rage baiters, but people who are dumb enough to reply to them. It'll take a long time, but one day, our culture as a whole will make people feel embarassed to yell at people who might be idiots on purpose.
What if said future doesn't come and society will continue to be this way until our species goes extinct? Is this how mentally unstable individuals will suffer and end their lives? Will this become actually dangerous to where it becomes a genuine life or death situation? Think about Gen Alpha when they get older and begin to base their life standards off of something ridiculous they got from the internet. And they begin losing their self-esteem and start taking their own lives away because their engagement is making these content creators millions. Being paid millions by another youth generation causing mass-suicide for stupid reasons.
I really enjoyed this video :) It is kind of funny to me - I hate being mad, so usually when I get mad I put everything to work to ensure I never see it again in my life if at all possible. I remember a time where it was 'cool' online to be hating on Justin Bieber, and I remember wondering why people were putting so much effort into putting his name and face everywhere. I wouldn't even have known of his existence if it wasn't for all the people eagerly jumping onto the Bieber-hate-bandwagon. If they hated him so much, why didn't they just forget about his existence and let him fade into obscurity?
You're entire video here hits the nail on the head. It's so awful. And it feels a lot harder to grow when you are actively trying NOT to get even associated with that kind of thing. Especially politics atm. Maybe one day I'll get somewhere with my animations and poem animatics. I know that this isn't 2015 TH-cam where that kind of stuff thrived, but I like to think that there are others like me who miss that content that was just fun and silly and just chill overall, so I will keep on going despite the new "norm" atm. I really feel that this is a trend that will burn itself out eventually here bc I really don't think anyone wants this negative brain rot anymore. More and more people I talk to and listen to all seem done with it. Thank you for talking about this. It's been nice to see more and more fellow youtubers talking about it and opening discussion.
As someone who doesn't use social media beyond youtube i definitely appreciate this perspective on the whole ragebait topic. I will say the intro and body feel a bit rant-y and inconsequential, but it does set up to make the conclusion a lot more satisfying! P.S Hi Momo :3
I definitely feel the pressure building up more nowadays but this has been going on for a long time also. Remember when jacksfilms made "Drama is more popular than content" in 2016? song still holds up
I'm just tired of internet drama in general. How many situations have to be insane for a situation to actually be insane? A bunch of mud-flinging. Another big branch of the ragebait tree I'm tired of is what I'll call "doomercore" content. It's where the content isn't necessarily intended to make you angry, but still thrives off of the viewer having negative emotions related to the topic of the video, rarely out of any sort of passion. Often it's due to the video covering ragebait in some form now that I think about it. Not to throw anyone under the bus, but you'll see it a lot from like all the big-name commentary channels that aren't a part of the daily upload crowd. I dunno, I'd hate it if for my job I had to find some new thing on TikTok that made me unhappy every two weeks or so
Omg thank you for making this video people still to this day who on social media either fall or rage bait or will say the most diabolical comments and those give people a really horrible mindset and I’m still shock how people or big content creators still fall for it and profit off by falling for said ragebait or when something bad happen like what’s going on people hop on it and normalize the idea of posting slop like that thanks for calling out on it because I’m so sick and tired of people engaging cuz it’s fun or whatever it’s not it make others have a horrible mindset see something that’s makes you mad ignore it oh my god
Man, YT put you on my recommendations feed one day for whatever reason... but what a blessed day it was. Love your content and how well-grounded you are. Keep it up, but only if you want to.
For a while now, ive actually only interacting with stuff that isn't ragebait or hateful. i litterly click off a video if its clickbait too. Life has been so much better since.
I couldnt agree more. I actually had a video idea, and have spent the last six months cultivating a certain negative image with a group of people. It couldnt have gone better 2:58
i agree, but this video does the same. instead of making the viewer angry at the person themselves, the youtuber creates anger for something else. you can't fight negativity with more negativity, but instead positivity, such as usually smaller channels of whom usually tend to just try to enjoy themselves and be happy doing something for 10-15 mins, allowing more positivity to be spread to the viewers.
Yeah for a while now, learning to ignore something is a skill that has to be done. Making sure what you see is actually what you want to see, even just straight up getting out of constantly using algorithms. follow who you like and stick to the subscriptions or following page, it might be a bit of work to follow enough people to keep it busy, but its so much better in the long run. just beware that a lot of slop is bait or even fake. It all ends in the age-old internet saying of "Don't feed the trolls"
PyroLIVE has been bad since its inception, but I agree it went DOGSHIT in the last several months. Like, I was in this opinion before the whole anti-slop discourse begun. As a Pyro fan since 2015 it's effing sad. Back then simple topics were stretched to 8 mins, at least. Now it's a 20+ minute rambling, and I put the likes of Mutahar in this camp as well. It's a waste of EVERYONE's time except for the uploader. I legit subscribed to a channel who does 20 second AI summaries for all those videos out of spite.
yeah, when i started watching pyroLIVE i was mainly there to watch his gameplays and sometimes his reaction/commentary because he actually added a lot of humor and fun to what he was doing, but lately its just become a drama channel. i don’t feel like that part of his personality i like really comes through anymore
I'm just tired of the blind hate and rage nowadays it's the reason I stick with certain people I enjoy they keep me away from the negativity of the internet and I refuse to use Twitter or Instagram or tiktok it's all bullshit
Oh so that’s why I started to get notifications under a comment I wrote for one of your videos months ago and in some cases people are mean to me for no reason LMAO
You know, I once tried to share a youtube video I watched and thought was funny. It was reading old forum posts. Nothing offensive was in it. Just mostly people being goofs. Wanna know what I was told in response? "So it's just a bunch of people becoming dissociated?" Despite nothing remotely terrible being in said video. Just write it off cause I wasn't upset and depressed.
I think when it comes to the success of negative content that literally breeds negativity, a lot of that is to blame on the viewers themselves. Primarily speaking of the general viewer, this doesn't apply to everybody so if it doesn't apply let it fly. And if somebody thinks well then it should apply to you too buddy, okay then. I'm fine with that. I have no problem admitting it. Which is why I have no problem calling it the fuck out. I try to avoid negative content more often than not. However, I'm not going to lie. If I'm interested in somebody's opinion and it just happens to be negative, I'm going to watch. Even if there's a chance I might disagree or it might make me upset. Because unfortunately that's just how interest works. You might be fascinated by it for some reason, it doesn't mean it's going to be positive. And this goes for everybody on the internet. Are you purposefully seeking out negativity just to get yourself upset? Chances are you're not. Chances are you had no idea what you were getting into when you went into a video.but even when you got into it, even if you disagree with it, even if you started to get annoyed by it, you were interested in it for one reason or another if you chose to view it, watch it all the way to the end, or engage with it in any way, form, or fashion. And FYI for anybody else reading this, when I say interest that doesn't mean you like it. It just means for some reason or another, you're intrigued by what that person has to say and you decided to give it your attention even if it's negative. And nobody should be telling you bye now, cuz it should be common sense, that engagement is engagement and it doesn't matter if it's positive or negative. That will feed the algorithm. It will boost that video. If you're the type of person that's tired of this negative content being fed to you, then literally do not engage with it and as the Creator said, press you're not interested. Does it work 100% of the time? No. But eventually the algorithm will get the hint. The best way to make sure it gets a hint is by watching something else that has nothing to do with the very thing that was negative or upset you. Literally watch anything else you like. People say this on a regular basis, but then some of you numbnuts out there were continuing to engage with this content, cry that it comes in your feet, and blame the algorithmas if it's the algorithms fault you chose to click on that video. Maybe you want to argue that the algorithms trying to antagonize you just so you engaged. I mean by that logic it's doing that with every video it ever shows you even if it's something you like. That's its entire fucking job. To show a video that might intrigue you, that might get you to engage with it, and it doesn't care if it's positive or negative cuz it doesn't know the difference. It just know that you kept fucking talking on that one video after you liked or disliked it for however long you were there. And the longer you're on the platform, the better it is for the platform and its investors. The algorithm is not here to please you, it's here to please the investors. So remember that the next time you go blaming the algorithm, or your favorite Creator that's making more money in gaining more views with a negative content when you don't support the positive shit. , that could be said about anything they make that you're not interested in. The new series, I wish they would at least go back to finish something they started, why the specifics equal to a video you've been waiting for for the longest? Let me ask you this how well did that video do in the algorithm? Not at all so then why the fuck would they go back to make the content that makes left using money just to fucking please you? And that's if you even click on it. Cuz that's the funny part, when these content creators do go out of the way to make more positive content, you all don't support that shit. Or if they do go back to the old fashioned style contents, that series I never finished, the old series you wanted them to continue, you don't support it, the video flops in the algorithm, then you act fucking surprised they never go back to it again. As of a while ago, I stopped watching a TH-cam by the name of blame truth of Call of Duty commentator. Because all he does is wine, bitch, and moan about sbmm over and over and over and over and over again. I've just gotten sick of it. I don't care if it does exist or not or if it's an actual problem. Like I wish you would just move on to talk about anything else. I'm actually subscribed to 402 thunder. they just keep milking it and milking it, and it's never anything positive it's always negative. They don't talk about any other game, they don't talk about anything else, it's just SBMM for the 500th fucking time. But at the same time, I can't blame them. Because they've admitted on multiple locations if people actually supported that shit, supported their videos when they went to a different game, supported their videos when they talked about positive things, supported the videos when they did anything about anything else, they would have just been doing that the whole fucking time. So you want more positivity, you want your favorite creators to go back to that old series or finish what they started? Well two goddamn bad oh so sad. Maybe you'll get back what you want if you actually put it out there in the world. One more positivity instead of negativity? Then put more out there in the world. Support more positive stuff out there in the world. Instead of bitching about it that you don't get it in your feet when chances are it's right in front of your fucking eyes. But because the family was not trying to rage bait you, you don't care. And before you go arguing, well what if I'm not interested in the video that's fine. I already made it very clear this is why negativity continues to thrive. If you genuinely don't mind listening to somebody's opinion even if it's negative, that's fine. I do too. But I don't bitch about it when I choose to consume it! Then continue to do so! So if you don't like this video, maybe you'll like the next or the next. That's fine. But if you don't ever support any of the positive videos or the very thing you supposedly been asking for, that you claim you wanted this whole time, then shut the fuk up! Literally put your goddamn clicks where your mouth is or just shut the fuk up and quit complaining. Because if you're not going to put in the bare minimum of effort to help yourself in the current predicament that you're in, then don't expect shit to change by doing the exact same fucking thing over and over and over again. You seen people will get this through their heads by now, but for some reason for the average general viewer this is mission fucking impossible. The same way a Creator can't blame the algorithm for why they're video flopped and should make a better thumbnail, maybe you should watch better content instead of consuming garbage then complaining the algorithm for your own choices. All actions have consequences whether positive or negative. Action and reaction genius. And one last reminder that I'm speaking of the TH-cam general audience and not the content creator or his general audience in of itself. But the entire TH-cam general audience as of a whole. And one last time, if it doesn't apply then let it fly. You have no reason to be complaining about something that doesn't apply to you. If you get mad, then you're calling yourself out. And if it wasn't obvious already, besides giving my general opinion on the matter I'm speaking to the general audience out there. Remember those who even choose to read and get this far..
I hate this video!!!!
I hate this comment!!!!
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your actually stupid because this is incorrect
@@apotato4939 i hate your user handle!! (i of course don't, it's quite good honestly)
@@apotato4939 I hate your hate!!!
I miss when the phrase "don't feed the trolls" was a thing. But with a system where making people angry makes you money but also calling out the people who create rage-bait makes money too then we're sort of stuck with a never ending cycle of garbage
TH-camrs shouldn't be paid. TH-camr should be a hobbies for college students like in the old days.
@@ddsjgvk I would agree but I think it would be unfair to take away the jobs that some youtubers have built off of youtube
@@ddsjgvkyeah no terrible idea that fixes literally nothing
FNF Catmania drama in a nutshell
feels great being on this end instead
I've also noticed it in the real world. I get yelled at by customers at least once a week for things completely out of my control. These people gorge on hate then go spewing it back out into the world.
I experience that regularly with car drivers after ignoring signs, bike lanes, stop lights, and causing a dangerous situation for me on my bike. Even if I calmly tell them not to drive on the bike lane (for example), I get yelled at. I did nothing wrong and get yelled at or rude gestures. Human society is so f*cked up.
Working in restaurants sucks customers are so mean for no reason
Same here, I usually get yelled at by a customer while she hits me with her purse because she couldn't get a shopping cart because every one of them was taken
If you want to learn more about human nature, work a retail job. Overwhelming majority of rude or angry customers are white baby boomers
cat bait is way better than rage bait
Fish bait on top of
Rage bait is the worst because I cannot escape it no matter how hard I try, idiots will always fall for it and it eventually circulates enough
I would find a virtually impossible that you're not at least getting some content you would like assuming you actually avoid that content and choose to not engage with it. Cuz it really isn't that hard. But as far as avoiding it completely, I do agree that is virtually impossible. Because if it's even slightly related to anything you've been interested in on the platform, the algorithm is going to try to recommend it to you regardless. Is that the end of the day, they don't care if they engagements positive or negative. The algorithm in higher-ups of the platform just want you to stay on the platform. The longer you're on it, the more the number screw up, the happier their investors are. The algorithms here please them, not you.
i feel like people have forgotten that old saying our parents taught us... if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.
Nice cat. Rage bait has kind of infested every part of the web, it was strange watching it evolve on social media platforms that have no monetary or even social reward for it like 4chan.
I feel like a big part of it is also "cringe" accounts reposting people either being goofy or having fun-- or bringing more attention to people who are mentally ill.
Its kinda fucked up
Yeah lol like that natalie tran person on tiktok. Does she know that "ironically" being cringe on every video for "le meme" just makes her as cringe as the people she mocks?
People have become too comfortable not being punished. The anonymity of being online let's people be way too hateful and/or just straight up offensive without any real punishment. I (ironically) hate it all. Anyways, I suggest deleting twitter, it's nothing but a cesspool of doddering old folk and degenerates.
I've been saying this too, ppl are too comfortable not thinking twice before they speak online cuz there's no real, immediate consequences to it. Irl you say some dumb shit like that 50% chance you'd end up taking a nap on the sidewalk
@V6HAVOC It honestly annoys me how much people will make saying slurs or being (insert your choice of -phobic here) into a joke.
@L1v1ngDeAdGirl ofc the woman's solution is to ban all the mean people
@@L1v1ngDeAdGirl Such lazy "humor". They erroneously call it "dark humor". It's just masking bigotry behind feigned humor.
@TheOceanBearer "It's just a joke bro. I don't actually mean it when I call you a [insert extremely targeted and hateful thing here]."
I deleted twitter years ago, also i got rid of twitch and instagram too on my phone. I really only watch youtube, but i always use the not interested option when i see anything rage bait like or posing a question where i "wont believe the answer" since 99% of those are completely common knowledge
Same. It really helps me keep a clear mind. Wish more people did this
I also deleted some videos, which i don't like it from history after watching them. Don't want to have them more in my recommendation.
Also, using browser extensions like channel blocker and clickbait remover.
Exactly. Thats what ive been doing for some time too. Im so tired of being angry all the time. Fuck this. Id rather watch some minecraft content all day like when i was little than this stupid ragebait and commentary, "the problem with blank", "tiktoks new blank trend is bad" bullshit etc.
This kinda shit makes me wanna unlearn english fr
My dude I just deleted Twitter myself. After watching it go down the toilet over the last 5 years, and become nothing but rage bait and corn bots.
Absolutely true. Just looking at political channels and even tv now it’s nauseating
It's seeping into everything and affecting our social communication, his example of the car crash smh, most people these days just record and don't do anything to help the situation, it's madness
Social media is so toxic, I'm learning to have a limit to how much i consume of it because of how much they reel you in, click bait, rage bait, super long videos, videos that are not related to what you are looking for and the never ending shorts on tick tock and here, I'm at a point that I'm glad when my internet goes down because i legit get some peace and it encourages me to do something more productive than brain rot 🧠🧠
This, lately I’ve been doing my best to try actively avoid social media and have noticed a genuine difference in how I feel throughout the day, a positive difference
"Something about uhhh being mean on the Internet and not being punched in the face or something idk..."
-Mike Tyson or something
I'm probably totally outside any "target audience" you might have (not a gamer, over 50, still uses Facebook but never used TikTok). Still, I highly enjoy your content and your opinion on things.
What you said is also true for Facebook (which is only used by old people nowadays, it seems). The more racist, unempathetic, agitating, minority bashing or spiteful a comment is, the more reactions it gets. I feel a lot of people like myself are so worn out and depressed by that, they don't comment anymore or stopped using Facebook altogether. Which leaves a priority of comments being hateful or anti-something (migrants, LGTBIQ, genderneutral language, the green fraction of our German government).
It's a bit off-topic, since you spoke about hate in general and not in a political sense, but a lot of this hate and bashing has a political background. Especially on X and Facebook, it's obvious to overemphasise right-leaning to far-right views. And we all saw what it did to the election in the USA. And I fear what it will do to the election in Germany. That's the even worse part about this "trend". Sorry for this depressing off-topic, but it's very important to know.
i think you’re absolutely correct, it’s just like that old saying, never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers
Yep exactly. I've been saying this a lot myself. I also still use that horrible, outmoded ass site Facebook, but over the past few years I've unintentionally just stopped using it nearly as much as I used to. I hardly go on there at all anymore, and it has taken such a weight off my shoulders in doing so. However, now my problem is staying away from rage bait on youtube since I depend on this app / site for sleep, information, entertainment, etc.
title is absolutely correct, ragebait is everywhere to some extent: negative reviews = hate company or product x, the rise of true crime, cheaters in anything and of course the news is full of ragebait
"A lie is halfway round the world before the truth has got its boots on." ~ Jonathan Swift
I personally believe we as people have grown weak, we get mad so easily at almost anything online and I feel like a lot of us have become reactionaries as a result of it all. Many of my friends used to send me videos dedicated to being mad at a specific topic, like how The Penguin is now a woman in the new Batman animated series (seriously, that’s a stupid thing to bitch about and I found it so satisfying when Serum Lake, a person who actually knows a lot about Batman called these people out on their bs). This type of behavior is making us far less receptive to other arguments. We’ve gone from attempting to understand each other to wishing to outright subjugate the other party for even daring to have a different worldview to ours. This cycle of co-dependence on ragebait to feel something should’ve stopped a long time ago. We’ve destroyed media literacy, we’ve destroyed any semblance of understanding we could’ve once had.. all because we wanted to be angry at something, it’s a blatant addiction a lot of us must drop at all costs.
Good thing im somewhat neutral
I am not sure about "people have grown weak". Weak people have always excited, you just didn't know about their existence. Nowadays they are in the spotlight 24/7, thanks to the internet and freedom.
To me, it's more like "weak people gained something, that they never knew they needed".
You know its bad when brother has to remind people that we should actually be kind to each other instead of being awful to each other all the time
it's even worse if you have that type of autism where you genuinely can't tell when people are being real or not. then the internet just looks more miserable than it already is. stay safe gng.
It doesn't matter if the content is authentic or manufactured rage bait, just block them. They're either too stupid to give your attention to, or exist simply to stir the pot.
Ragebait content is the easiest way to farm clicks nowadays.
You will be surprised to see how many people sacrifice dignity and respect to make it big on TH-cam.
Also making fun of people falling for ragebait is so dumb, because like, if you say something horrible, of course someone's gonna get mad. That's normal
True. And I think everyone has fallen for it before, then maybe realized later on that, "Oh, that was probably just rage bait." because the person said something untrue about something the rage bait viewer feels passionate about. Plus sometimes it's not that obvious that something is rage bait.
Something else in the realm of ragebait for engagement is mobile ads. They do a 15 second video of someone pretending to play a shitty game terribly to try to make you play the game.
I noticed that too. 😭 Then people are like, "I can do better than that! Let me try!"
Btw, this phrase "money can help you but can't buy you fulfilment" literally explains why Elon is a complete idiot. Money won't give him or anybody happiness, loved the video!
I mean i think ragebait has always been in media. Negativity has always been the thing that gets people looking at content because we feel more powerfull about negative emotions. This is becoming a problem because no one wants to think about what they are watching or doing anymore.
Antoguino and Momo are the best duo. Also, TH-cam, I have found your prince, and it's this guy.
After realizing a lot of my favorite TH-camrs videos are negative, forgettable and frankly not very useful commentary videos that I feel nothing for after finishing I realized a lot of them are slop creators. The only one left is Critical because I don’t care he’s a good one. I don’t even consider him one because he ads to it and is funny. Seems like a cool guy too. I actually do remember his and don’t feel ashamed watching him. TurkeyTom on the other hand is bland and forgettable. Watched him for a year and regretted how much time I wasted… Still can’t remember anything about any of their videos like these even after years of watching. It’s sad and distressing coming to this realization. Freeing and happier too.
I've noticed this so much in gaming communities, you just have a bunch of random people online complain and nitpick about how this new game is woke or DEI or doesn't look hyper realistic graphics and then makes video after video after video talking about it. All for it to discover said person isn't even a fan of the community and they're just dunking on a game for easy engagement.
I cant believe how much this guy is calling out Pyrocynicle
This is the reason why I left Twitter, I was getting pissed off on a daily basis and I realized that maybe that wasn't that great of an idea. Outside of a few times I went on Twitter to look for something real specific, I've been Twitter-free for like a year and a half, maybe even two years. And it's been great.
Though every other social media is full of ragebait so it's not like this has gone away but I don't get as pissed off as I did before. Now it's mostly in the comments of videos or reels where you'll find the most ragebaiting and anger fueling stuff, at least on my feed..
the internet has been like this since the dawn of time.
Even if thst was true it really shouldn't stay that way. Cholera was a problem since the dawn of time yet we managed to filter the shit out of our water, dont be complacent
Or they want to make you scared ,or depressed, they certainly don't want to make you happy..
GET SO MAD IT DRIVES YOU MAD - Master Asia
Hey man, please keep doing what you're doing. You're doing what you can do to work against the paradigm of negativity-centric content by questioning it with critical thinking. Your videos that I've seen show incremental improvement, and I really enjoy your laid-back/casual pacing and setting, very relatable.
I definitely don't agree that the internet was less angry before, imo it was simply more self contained. I think there was a lot more separate communities before social media kinda became the place we ALL engaged on. As well with basically the entire population hopping online, we went from isolated pockets to the flood gates being opened and it spreading to irl. Maybe it was easier to moderate or walk away from the angry-ness of the old web lol. Now its fucking impossible with everyone being online.
I agree with like everything else tho, and I find it really frustrating. I haven't really engaged at all in fandom or on social media in general once I became an adult for this reason. It's so loud and prevalent lol. I find I enjoy people who engage with topics with empathy and compassion, rather than just 'wow look how bad'. But we are seeing a shift with some commentary channels like realizing they're making things worse, which is progress. Emotional intelligence is sorely lacking in most people, we'd all benefit from reflection and responding to thing instead of reacting. ...and therapy lol
I think the partial reason why so many people are angry nowadays is in the increase of communities, but the increase in communities that are just echo chambers. And if you're not on somebody's side whatever that may be, or you don't completely agree with their opinions on 100%, then somehow you're the enemy. How dare you have a different opinion than me random stranger according to the chronically online redditor.
I HATE HATING HATE WITH HATE AND HATEBATE
It works, and it will never stop working. The human brain is hard wired to be more interested in potential danger than current safety so we watch the news and worry about bills. I clicked this video because I'm interested in watching someone else address a potential metaphorical threat.
You are spot on with what you said. I can barely be on the internet nowadays since hate is so common now and I have to do so much more work now to reach the really fun and interesting vids and posts out there. I want a return to where the most viral things on the internet were funny videos rather than internet drama. Bring me back to the days of Smosh lip syncs and dramatic gopher!
I usually stay clear of these types of people and content, it's literally so stupid and useless IMO. And I hate the internet culture that most people are online just to correct someone or try to problematise something someone said that is getting attention (out of pure envy or some shit). It's pathetic
This video made me hate the hate meta... oh... inception..
Rageception
Grrrrrrrr I am so angry right now!!! I have nothing happening right now and I'm bored!!! I am gonna be angry at grass today!!! Grass fucking stinks!!!
Honestly, I want this to continue. I want people to constantly be reminded that throwing out hate is rewarding the people they hate, until our culture finally grows out of it. That we all come together and start shunning not only rage baiters, but people who are dumb enough to reply to them. It'll take a long time, but one day, our culture as a whole will make people feel embarassed to yell at people who might be idiots on purpose.
What if said future doesn't come and society will continue to be this way until our species goes extinct? Is this how mentally unstable individuals will suffer and end their lives? Will this become actually dangerous to where it becomes a genuine life or death situation? Think about Gen Alpha when they get older and begin to base their life standards off of something ridiculous they got from the internet. And they begin losing their self-esteem and start taking their own lives away because their engagement is making these content creators millions. Being paid millions by another youth generation causing mass-suicide for stupid reasons.
I really enjoyed this video :) It is kind of funny to me - I hate being mad, so usually when I get mad I put everything to work to ensure I never see it again in my life if at all possible. I remember a time where it was 'cool' online to be hating on Justin Bieber, and I remember wondering why people were putting so much effort into putting his name and face everywhere. I wouldn't even have known of his existence if it wasn't for all the people eagerly jumping onto the Bieber-hate-bandwagon. If they hated him so much, why didn't they just forget about his existence and let him fade into obscurity?
I got this video recommended to me within 43 seconds of it being uploaded
peak content. i think this guy likes making videos
It’s like he actually puts effort into his videos.
Your cat is SO cute!
You're entire video here hits the nail on the head. It's so awful. And it feels a lot harder to grow when you are actively trying NOT to get even associated with that kind of thing. Especially politics atm. Maybe one day I'll get somewhere with my animations and poem animatics. I know that this isn't 2015 TH-cam where that kind of stuff thrived, but I like to think that there are others like me who miss that content that was just fun and silly and just chill overall, so I will keep on going despite the new "norm" atm. I really feel that this is a trend that will burn itself out eventually here bc I really don't think anyone wants this negative brain rot anymore. More and more people I talk to and listen to all seem done with it.
Thank you for talking about this. It's been nice to see more and more fellow youtubers talking about it and opening discussion.
As someone who doesn't use social media beyond youtube i definitely appreciate this perspective on the whole ragebait topic. I will say the intro and body feel a bit rant-y and inconsequential, but it does set up to make the conclusion a lot more satisfying!
P.S Hi Momo :3
You are so deeply talented and thoughtful. I really hope your channel prospers!
thank you so much, that’s a really nice compliment
I definitely feel the pressure building up more nowadays but this has been going on for a long time also. Remember when jacksfilms made "Drama is more popular than content" in 2016? song still holds up
I'm just tired of internet drama in general. How many situations have to be insane for a situation to actually be insane? A bunch of mud-flinging.
Another big branch of the ragebait tree I'm tired of is what I'll call "doomercore" content. It's where the content isn't necessarily intended to make you angry, but still thrives off of the viewer having negative emotions related to the topic of the video, rarely out of any sort of passion. Often it's due to the video covering ragebait in some form now that I think about it. Not to throw anyone under the bus, but you'll see it a lot from like all the big-name commentary channels that aren't a part of the daily upload crowd. I dunno, I'd hate it if for my job I had to find some new thing on TikTok that made me unhappy every two weeks or so
4:13 Old Pyro is back Babbyyy
Omg thank you for making this video people still to this day who on social media either fall or rage bait or will say the most diabolical comments and those give people a really horrible mindset and I’m still shock how people or big content creators still fall for it and profit off by falling for said ragebait or when something bad happen like what’s going on people hop on it and normalize the idea of posting slop like that thanks for calling out on it because I’m so sick and tired of people engaging cuz it’s fun or whatever it’s not it make others have a horrible mindset see something that’s makes you mad ignore it oh my god
i honestly found that avoiding any type of polarizing content like the plague positively affected my mental health
If we’re gonna be real here, this video is also a form of rage bait. It’s raging about rage bait. Catharsis bait.
I don't use TikTok and Twitter, and that's good for me.
4:09 what game is that? I wanna know cause I need to try new things, (Nice video btw!)
Man, YT put you on my recommendations feed one day for whatever reason... but what a blessed day it was. Love your content and how well-grounded you are. Keep it up, but only if you want to.
I honestly hope rage baiting dies down over the years.
For a while now, ive actually only interacting with stuff that isn't ragebait or hateful. i litterly click off a video if its clickbait too. Life has been so much better since.
I like this channel, my favourite video was the side hustle one. Let people enjoy their hobbies man🙇♀️
Finnaly i dont feel alone on this. Everything feels that needs to feed on negativity and drama
Just adding a comment to help boost engagement love from South Africa penguin man
This video is so cathartic, bro
1:30 Oh hell yeah i love sonic CD music
I really liked your video dude, I don't want to play TH-cam's angry game to be successful and thank goodness I don't use Twitter
I couldnt agree more. I actually had a video idea, and have spent the last six months cultivating a certain negative image with a group of people. It couldnt have gone better 2:58
The social media has damaged my thinking Or somthing
Didn’t expect it, but this was a beautiful video 🙌🏾
i agree, but this video does the same. instead of making the viewer angry at the person themselves, the youtuber creates anger for something else. you can't fight negativity with more negativity, but instead positivity, such as usually smaller channels of whom usually tend to just try to enjoy themselves and be happy doing something for 10-15 mins, allowing more positivity to be spread to the viewers.
I’m so happy I deleted Twitter
plot twist this vid is also ragebait
Well done. Optimistic message. I like it.
Ragebait is a crime
It’s why I always click “not interested” when there’s some type of drama. I wanna see gaming videos! I sure videos and final fantasy content!!
Yeah for a while now, learning to ignore something is a skill that has to be done. Making sure what you see is actually what you want to see, even just straight up getting out of constantly using algorithms. follow who you like and stick to the subscriptions or following page, it might be a bit of work to follow enough people to keep it busy, but its so much better in the long run.
just beware that a lot of slop is bait or even fake. It all ends in the age-old internet saying of "Don't feed the trolls"
That's certainly one goofy ahh cat
Your observations are clever and your cat is cute.
Subscribed.
Man you are really underated
thank you!
This is one of the main reasons I removed Twitter, and one of the reasons I would remove Instagram (I'm not because I have friends on there)
Say what you will, but working smarter and not harder makes far too much sense to not do.
Great video, I've noticed this too and it's a big reason why I stopped using social media. Love the changes in scenery this video too (and momo :) )
PyroLIVE has been bad since its inception, but I agree it went DOGSHIT in the last several months. Like, I was in this opinion before the whole anti-slop discourse begun. As a Pyro fan since 2015 it's effing sad. Back then simple topics were stretched to 8 mins, at least. Now it's a 20+ minute rambling, and I put the likes of Mutahar in this camp as well. It's a waste of EVERYONE's time except for the uploader. I legit subscribed to a channel who does 20 second AI summaries for all those videos out of spite.
yeah, when i started watching pyroLIVE i was mainly there to watch his gameplays and sometimes his reaction/commentary because he actually added a lot of humor and fun to what he was doing, but lately its just become a drama channel. i don’t feel like that part of his personality i like really comes through anymore
I think slop content can really be its own topic for a video
I'm just tired of the blind hate and rage nowadays it's the reason I stick with certain people I enjoy they keep me away from the negativity of the internet and I refuse to use Twitter or Instagram or tiktok it's all bullshit
Oh so that’s why I started to get notifications under a comment I wrote for one of your videos months ago and in some cases people are mean to me for no reason LMAO
yeah that video has so many nasty comments under it for no reason it’s crazy
Nothing constructive to say, so here's one engagement for you. Keep contenting
This video not even having 20k views proves your point
GOOD MORNING BROTHER-SISTERS I HAVE BELIEF THAT WE CAN ALL CHANGE THE WORLD!! JUST BELIEVE IN KRAFF!!
Kifflom!!🖖🏾💙
thank you, my friend. at least someone understands how to calm down
no way your cat is named Momo too wtf
is yours named after the avatar the last airbender one?
@antoguino yeah lol
thank you for this video. I had read a coment that ruined my day. didn't reply to it. feel better after this vid, so thanks
You know, I once tried to share a youtube video I watched and thought was funny. It was reading old forum posts. Nothing offensive was in it. Just mostly people being goofs.
Wanna know what I was told in response? "So it's just a bunch of people becoming dissociated?" Despite nothing remotely terrible being in said video. Just write it off cause I wasn't upset and depressed.
It's really also not hard to just not watch TH-cam. Turns out tv has gotten a lot better since I stopped watching it as much in 2013.
RAGE BAIT?! This is OUTRAGOUS!!!
I think when it comes to the success of negative content that literally breeds negativity, a lot of that is to blame on the viewers themselves. Primarily speaking of the general viewer, this doesn't apply to everybody so if it doesn't apply let it fly.
And if somebody thinks well then it should apply to you too buddy, okay then. I'm fine with that. I have no problem admitting it. Which is why I have no problem calling it the fuck out.
I try to avoid negative content more often than not. However, I'm not going to lie. If I'm interested in somebody's opinion and it just happens to be negative, I'm going to watch. Even if there's a chance I might disagree or it might make me upset. Because unfortunately that's just how interest works. You might be fascinated by it for some reason, it doesn't mean it's going to be positive.
And this goes for everybody on the internet. Are you purposefully seeking out negativity just to get yourself upset? Chances are you're not. Chances are you had no idea what you were getting into when you went into a video.but even when you got into it, even if you disagree with it, even if you started to get annoyed by it, you were interested in it for one reason or another if you chose to view it, watch it all the way to the end, or engage with it in any way, form, or fashion.
And FYI for anybody else reading this, when I say interest that doesn't mean you like it. It just means for some reason or another, you're intrigued by what that person has to say and you decided to give it your attention even if it's negative.
And nobody should be telling you bye now, cuz it should be common sense, that engagement is engagement and it doesn't matter if it's positive or negative. That will feed the algorithm. It will boost that video.
If you're the type of person that's tired of this negative content being fed to you, then literally do not engage with it and as the Creator said, press you're not interested. Does it work 100% of the time? No. But eventually the algorithm will get the hint. The best way to make sure it gets a hint is by watching something else that has nothing to do with the very thing that was negative or upset you. Literally watch anything else you like.
People say this on a regular basis, but then some of you numbnuts out there were continuing to engage with this content, cry that it comes in your feet, and blame the algorithmas if it's the algorithms fault you chose to click on that video.
Maybe you want to argue that the algorithms trying to antagonize you just so you engaged. I mean by that logic it's doing that with every video it ever shows you even if it's something you like. That's its entire fucking job. To show a video that might intrigue you, that might get you to engage with it, and it doesn't care if it's positive or negative cuz it doesn't know the difference. It just know that you kept fucking talking on that one video after you liked or disliked it for however long you were there. And the longer you're on the platform, the better it is for the platform and its investors. The algorithm is not here to please you, it's here to please the investors.
So remember that the next time you go blaming the algorithm, or your favorite Creator that's making more money in gaining more views with a negative content when you don't support the positive shit.
, that could be said about anything they make that you're not interested in. The new series, I wish they would at least go back to finish something they started, why the specifics equal to a video you've been waiting for for the longest? Let me ask you this how well did that video do in the algorithm? Not at all so then why the fuck would they go back to make the content that makes left using money just to fucking please you?
And that's if you even click on it. Cuz that's the funny part, when these content creators do go out of the way to make more positive content, you all don't support that shit. Or if they do go back to the old fashioned style contents, that series I never finished, the old series you wanted them to continue, you don't support it, the video flops in the algorithm, then you act fucking surprised they never go back to it again.
As of a while ago, I stopped watching a TH-cam by the name of blame truth of Call of Duty commentator. Because all he does is wine, bitch, and moan about sbmm over and over and over and over and over again. I've just gotten sick of it. I don't care if it does exist or not or if it's an actual problem. Like I wish you would just move on to talk about anything else. I'm actually subscribed to 402 thunder.
they just keep milking it and milking it, and it's never anything positive it's always negative. They don't talk about any other game, they don't talk about anything else, it's just SBMM for the 500th fucking time.
But at the same time, I can't blame them. Because they've admitted on multiple locations if people actually supported that shit, supported their videos when they went to a different game, supported their videos when they talked about positive things, supported the videos when they did anything about anything else, they would have just been doing that the whole fucking time.
So you want more positivity, you want your favorite creators to go back to that old series or finish what they started? Well two goddamn bad oh so sad. Maybe you'll get back what you want if you actually put it out there in the world. One more positivity instead of negativity? Then put more out there in the world. Support more positive stuff out there in the world. Instead of bitching about it that you don't get it in your feet when chances are it's right in front of your fucking eyes.
But because the family was not trying to rage bait you, you don't care. And before you go arguing, well what if I'm not interested in the video that's fine. I already made it very clear this is why negativity continues to thrive. If you genuinely don't mind listening to somebody's opinion even if it's negative, that's fine. I do too. But I don't bitch about it when I choose to consume it! Then continue to do so!
So if you don't like this video, maybe you'll like the next or the next. That's fine. But if you don't ever support any of the positive videos or the very thing you supposedly been asking for, that you claim you wanted this whole time, then shut the fuk up! Literally put your goddamn clicks where your mouth is or just shut the fuk up and quit complaining. Because if you're not going to put in the bare minimum of effort to help yourself in the current predicament that you're in, then don't expect shit to change by doing the exact same fucking thing over and over and over again.
You seen people will get this through their heads by now, but for some reason for the average general viewer this is mission fucking impossible.
The same way a Creator can't blame the algorithm for why they're video flopped and should make a better thumbnail, maybe you should watch better content instead of consuming garbage then complaining the algorithm for your own choices. All actions have consequences whether positive or negative. Action and reaction genius.
And one last reminder that I'm speaking of the TH-cam general audience and not the content creator or his general audience in of itself. But the entire TH-cam general audience as of a whole. And one last time, if it doesn't apply then let it fly. You have no reason to be complaining about something that doesn't apply to you. If you get mad, then you're calling yourself out.
And if it wasn't obvious already, besides giving my general opinion on the matter I'm speaking to the general audience out there. Remember those who even choose to read and get this far..
Good video. We need more people need to know about this ngl.
I need a break from TH-cam twitter and TikTok
Ollie King OST? I'll like for that
Great explanation of why I drink~
Yes I notice the rage bait thumbnails.