The Problem With The Flash (Wally West)
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In this video, I'm discussing the problem with The Flash (Wally West). Wally West is one of the most popular characters on The Flash, but many fans have voiced their dissatisfaction with his recent storylines.
If you're a fan of The Flash, then you should definitely check out this video. In it, I discuss the problems with Wally West's storylines and why many fans are unhappy with him. I hope you learn something new about The Flash and appreciate Wally West a little bit more after watching this video!
Wally West: "Why cant I be happy in my own comic?"
Spiderman: "First time?"
LMAO!!!! Spidercuck!
Tbh both are similar people lol
@@godnyx117that’s wild bro whose Paul?😭
@@Mustideer Never heard of him! 🤣🤣🤣
@@godnyx117Paul? I barely know him😂
Wish I didn’t know
Remember when Bart Allen was meant to be the Flash but was sabotaged? I still remember....
He's the Peter Parker of DC. Poor dude can't catch a break.
Not gonna go too far back so BACK IN 1959
The problem with Wally West is that the writers are playing God, instead of the Wally West story as it should be told they're messing his story line up.
I love tha bread tho
Wally's mistreatment during the last years becomes even more painful to watch when we consider that, shortly before the events of Crisis on Infinite Earths, he got tired of being a hero and decided to spend his time on his girlfriend and his studies instead, retiring the same time that Dick Grayson stopped being Robin. The fact he decided to replace Barry after his death, just when he finally got used to having a normal life, shows what a bro he is
Wally West was proof that legacy characters can work…and then DC randomly went:”Nah let’s undo all that”
But at least he’s finding his place it seems like even if it’s shaky with stunts like killing him with a bullet
He's not finding his place at all.
DC doesn't do legacy characters anymore.
@@trevturp6891 Barry is literally the one without a title. Current Flash ongoing and the one that will launch in September is all Wally😅 it’s been like this for two years now. Funny thing is the two flash miniseries coming up also has nothing to do with Barry.
Sad thing is that everything Barry is "known" and loved for was 99% all Wally
yeah even the personality and way of acting as a person was Wally West but blonde,im sure because of the early popularity of wally they made barry like him,I remember watching Justice League Unlimited and flash was my favorite character for example,and it was Wally,now i see Barry and Wally and they are the same character.
It's more or less. I think the only thing they took from Wally and gave to Barry was the personality, but the origin story, love interest and the villains are still Barry's.
The origin and love interests are Barry’s tho. Especially his relationship with his mom.
@@mr.continuityryone has a unique origin, wally has his and it is also great. Barry's interesting origin and relationship with his mom are all thanks to rebirth and flashpoint which in total is 12 issues or something (n52 run is bad and williamson run is 6/10). So the fact that many think these are some of the most relevant factors of the flash mythos as a whole is thanks to cw show whic is cool but just make the distinction. Also even though some villains such as rouges are original barry allen villains, they are given much more depth in waid's and johns' runs, and MOST speed force related characters(black flash, savitar, zoom...) are wally characters. Even reverse flash is given such a cool backstory thanks to the concept of a speed force developed and presented beautifully in the wally era. Many think we have wally thanks to barry, but a person can only love barry thanks to wally.
wasn't it Wally who made the "lightning rod" quote for him and Linda I remember seeing it in the Dead Heat storyline. And Barry even get's some of Wally's villains in the new 52 storyline
We really do need to have a discussion about how for the New 52 they decided to reimagine Wally West as black, and they immediately decided that meant he was now a disaffected inner city youth with no father figure whose only hobby was tagging. There's SO MUCH to unpack about those decisions.
What an awful decision.
"Let's make Wally a young black teenager to appeal to modern audiences."
Ok, that can work.
"Let's also make him every black teenager stereotype. Do you think Kool-Aid will sponsor us?"
**facepalm**
@@tatersalad76 Nah dude, I'm sick of these race swaps. Should've just made a new character.
My biggest issue was the evil uncle storyline ... I literally sat down and went through Miles Morales background less than a year before I encountered the Daniel West storyline
@@user-pv1qk4so6syeah it doesn’t seem like they cared enough to make a new black character other then blue beetle tweeks and he’s not even black
Never thought I'd be coming up with weekly mini essays and rambling my ADD brain into the void weekly. Thank you guys for embracing this format!
😃
Great vid
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Love this series. Thanks for doin' more
You make good points. A real shame how DC treats Wally West. Had a great opportunity with DC Rebirth to do something awesome after Wally's return. They need better leadership.
It must be endlessly frustrating for talented and passionate writers like Jeremy Adams to spend an entire year fixing a beloved character like Wally West after a hack like Tom King completely ruined him for no reason, only for someone else to immediately kill him off as soon as he leaves the book.
True, back to square one
It's legitimately frightening to me that the comic book community isn't willing to discuss the misogyny and demonization of mental illness that runs rampant in Tom King's books.
@@WhoTookPlockrock misogyny? He's usually propping the women up , and making the men way too vulnerable. Feels like the opposite of misogyny.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp That itself is a form of misogyny, how he views women not as their own people but as saviors whose role is to find a man to "save". He views them almost exclusively as purpose-serving without agency, and has an extremely fucked up view of relationships
@@WhoTookPlockrock that's a good point. Was really weird seeing Catwoman act essentially as Batman's mommy.
Wally West was one of the only heroes that was successfully able to become a headlining legacy hero and it worked phenomenally, his personality, his character growth from sidekick to mainstay JL member, his family and his relationship w the wider universe were all so fleshed out that you couldn’t help but see him as the definitive flash, Barry while classic doesn’t compare to Wally and all the trials and tribulations he’s gone through, even with the CW Flash he picks up A LOT of core traits Wally had which left that version of Wally West w nothing to stand on character wise, it’s a shame new DC fans are unaware that Wally West defined the Flash for over 25 years and gave us all the things we live about that hero
I agree. it annoyed me that when watching the CW show how many times I would go "That's a Wally thing" when they did something with Barry. They even had Barry date Linda Park for a bit and that was a slap in the face to Wally fans.
J nw noreen
The problem with Wally West is that Barry Allen didn't stay dead. Geoff Johns just wanted to bring back the characters he grew up reading regardless of the repercussions it would have on the existing DC universse.
Yeah, but Barry Allen is the FIRST and FASTEST Flash (/s)
No he isn't. Jay Garrick is the first Flash and Wally is the fastest Flash.
@@The_Phantasm I prefer Barry over both
@@The_Phantasm /s means sarcasm my guy
@@BardiaOmega Cool. I prefer Wally.
Most fans who came in from the CW series or the New 52 will never understand why we fogies keep yelling at clouds about Wally West. Suffice to say, it's a little frustrating that a lot of people won't know that Wally West is the Flash that gave you a lot of things that fans like about the Flash today. Plus, everyone loves a "I'm in someone else's shadow"-type story. Barry's only competition was Jay. And no one thinks Barry was in Jay's shadow. Nobody.
It's a shame since they had such an amazing opportunity to capitalize on his return with DC Rebirth.
To be fair, I'd just tell them to watch the old Justice League cartoon if they don't get why we like Wally West. He's literally the Flash most of us grew up with, not Barry.
Wallys the best flash by miles, him and nightwing are the best
I still prefer Barry tbh, been reading the comics for a while now and I kinda prefer him over Wally tbh. I do love Wally in JL and JLA tho, it's just that I like Barry more.
Also, bro you are everywhere
Apparently I like Barry despite what people say, I really quite became fond of him especially in Joshua Williamson and Manupal’s own interpretation of him
Really feel bad for Wally after the New 52 reboot, with him being completely forgotten by DC during five f*cking years. It is pretty sad the fact Doctor Manhattan himself had to intervene to bring our boy back
And then they tried making “Wallace west”
@Nick Cirillo the easiest way they could've done this was make Wallece be Wally's protégé.
Why is it sad that Doctor Manhattan himself had to intervene to bring our boy back?
@@trevturp6891 Because a nihilistic God from other universe having to intervine in order to save Wally from the writer's mistreatment towards him is something that already speaks for itself
@@TetsuShima Thanks for answering my question.👍👍👍👍
DC's understanding of a character's nuance seems to be on Zack Snyder's level: just abuse the character, that should "build character".
Don't forget: Treat them all like gods, and forget about their humanity
RIP bro.
We know Wally's not dead.
We know he wasn't going to stay dead for long.
HOWEVER.
Now I want to know how he survives, who killed him, and what the Titans are going to do about it.
This mystery is going to be one helluva ride!
He runs towards the cosmic treadmill in his last moments so it seem like the dead Wally is from the future. The current Wally probably won’t be killed at all.
Wally West's totally dead. We know that and let's not pretend that we don't.
I’ve always been torn between Wally and Barry. I grew up with the Justice League shows, so technically I grew up with Wally, but Barry just feels so right as the flash as well. It hurts to see Wally cast aside for so long though
Why not do what I do and take both?
I grew up in a time Barry was dead, so Wally is the Main Flash, but I also spent some time appreciating Barry as the Flash as well.
Personally, I love both and desire if they can Batman & Nightwing them both into Comics.
@@baligong3592 Do you mean that you would change Wally West's superhero name? Because that's exactly what i would do and that's also what DC should have done in the first place, instead of stupidly deciding to have Barry Allen and Wally West both be The Flash at the same time for some incredibly stupid reason that makes absolutely no sense whatsover.
@@trevturp6891
The issue with Barry & Wally has nothing to do with their names. Green Lanterns, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, etc. all share names with other characters existing alongside them.
Issue with Barry & Wally comes down to portrayal and/or even the fact that some fans behaves as if Barry was created in 2009 and stole everything from Wally, including his suit.
Barry is a Introverted Science Nerd who's Privately Central City's best CSI, willing to do what's right because it's right. I can also add that he's a Momma's Boy.
Wally West is an Extroverted Jock who has a Public Identity of being The Flash, or in some other stories, Privately a Mechanic. Willing to do what's right because it's what Barry would've done. He also has Family Issues.
They should highlight these 2 distinctions, and give both characters their own respective run.
Stories that makes Wally move to Central City, have a Private Identity, use a Generic Flash suit, work with the Police (or in Jeremy Adam's Case: in a Lab), etc. causes some fans to be confused.
What made Wally special was stripped away from him when Geoff Johns wrote him back in the 2000s. They should at least give Wally's suit more differences rather than white eyes and nose job, since it's pretty clear most Comic Artists still gets confused.
@Trev Turp No, they don't. They need to just fuckjng kill off Barry again and just let Wally be the flash and then have him pass on the mantle to a worthy successor.
@@baligong3592 The Green Lanterns are a Corp, Not sure what you mean with Wonder Women, and it really isn't the same with Spider-man, every other Spider-person goes by Spider-man or woman in their respective universes, and even in 616, pretty much every other Spider-person has their own personal persona, other than Miles who shares Peters name. The Scarlet Spiders sometimes share a name, but Marvel's been Screwing over Ben Reilly for a while now.
We will miss you thank you for the years of amazing content and giving people hope through your videos RIP
Wally and Peter should crossover and discuss how terrible their lives are 💀💀
If WB would've gotten their stuff together, we could've gotten an amazing live action comic accurate Wally West in a definitive DC cinematic universe.
With his own superhero name and finally getting out of his mentor's shadow.
Wally is the only sidekick to filly take on the mantle of his predecessor and also maintain that title for more then a decade! Bucky took up Cap for a short while, but no other sidekick has ever surpassed their predecessor in popularity other then Wally West, also one of the few superheroes who didn't have a tragic story with his family murdered... Give Barry the emotional drama, let Wally be happy!
“Wally’s a fricking punching bag”- summarises the entire video.
Wally had one of the most well thought out journey in comics as a side kick to filling the shoes our your Hero, Idol, and Father figure. He then became his own man and his character arc was reaching its end. Now i dont mind what they did with erasing him and bringing him back, but its the way they did it that caused problems.
They could have taken him off-world so he could still be in the same timeline and universe snd still be friends with Dick. But instead its this convoluted nonsense.
He didn't become his own man. He's always remained in Barry Allen's shadow and as long as he's The Flash, he'll always be in Barry Allen's shadow.
Why don't you mind that they erased him?
@@trevturp6891 Well, 2 responses.
He definitely out grew barry shadow in the 90s and 2000s. In my opinion, and what I mean is I don't mind them erasing his and bringing him back after. I would mind if they just permanently erased him.
@@ljeans531 Who are you talking about aside from Wally West?
@@ljeans531 But he's been thrown back into it now.
Wally was manipulated by thawne using the negative speed force, and the explosion was due to the speed for basically trying to remove savitar with speed force energy surges, flash foward ended with flash becoming dr manhattan enhanced in exchange his kids are restored
Main problem is they can’t stop character assassinating him
And that they haven't given him a new superhero name, which is something they should have done a long time ago.
Minor correction. The Savatar story that explains away Heroes in Crisis takes place after Wally gets and gives up the Mobius Chair.
yup that's right
The problem with Wally is that Barry’s still alive, and now that Wally was the flash for so long he can’t reach his maximum potential with Barry around
Sounds like the issue of the character at that point. It's like saying Nightwing's issues is that Batman is Alive.
If all these characters like Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man, Batman, Captain America, etc. can overcome their losses of other characters and still not have issues, even if they [the dead Hero, or even Villain in some cases] comes back to life, then Wally West should also not have the same issue.
But if all these characters do not suffer, but this one particular character became garbage from another one coming back to life, what does that say about the character?
@@baligong3592 except Wally has no role outside of being flash. He’s kinda irrelevant if he isn’t the flash as nightwing is firmly established as his own man outside of Batman. Wally unfortunately is not outside the shadow of the flash mantle.
@@knoober3756
How about the Green Lanterns? Spider-Men? Thor Corps? Anyone from IronMan's Respective Crew?
If Wally isn't Outside the shadow of The Flash, it would mean the title of The Flash is bigger than Wally, making him more susceptible for replacement despite having great stories.
Artemis, Donna, and Diana are all the Current Wonder Woman, are all Greek, but all 3 still get stories to this day. What one Wonder Woman is can't be replaced easily with the other.
I believe Wally is bigger than the Title. It's seems already clear Barry and Jay are too. Barry the Science Uncle Flash, Jay the Soldier Grandpa Flash, Wally the Fast Flash? The Family Flash? But now even Jay Garrick is ripping that Specialty away from him.
What I'm trying to do is get you to thinking "what makes Wally something bigger than The Flash?" Because if he's just "The Grieving Flash" like some perceive him to be, then he's going to get absolutely bullied by Editorial, Writers, Artists, etc. Like Heroes in Crisis.
@@baligong3592apples and oranges. The green lantern corps works cause they are an army. Night wing is his own established character. Wally West however was a successor and truly grew to earn the mantle of the Flash. He's not the grieving Flash or whatever the fuck kind of labels you wanna put on him. He is the one and only Flash.
@@gentlemanbronco3246 One and only flash? Not sure how accurate that is
Honestly for the longest time I've been convinced that DC writers hate the fact that Bruce Timm created a universe with incredibly popular characters and have gone out of their way to erase them all
I mean think about it how long have Wally West,John Stewart, Martian Manhunter, Static/Milestone been getting short end of the stick at DC. Seems too intentional imo
Fang isn't interested in this because she knows that they'll bring him back. She's not biting into this hype.😅
*Fun fact:* For those who wanted Wally to permanently be Flash, in the novelization of Crisis on Infinite Earths, Barry stays dead forever, as the epilogue show us a flashforward in which Wally is still the only Flash when Bart Allen is already a kid. It was truly a satisfying moment
The thing about that is that it’s a different timeline so it didn’t even matter.
Wally West in the DCAU was a beast. I hate that he’s been abused by the writers
Getting rid of Wally in the first place was a big mistake. Having Bart be the next flash was the natural next step. Bringing back Barry has stagnated the flash mythos’s story telling
1. They tried that, but Wally fans got upset about the story, and had Bart killed.
2. Barry didn't stagnate The Flash, since the original plan for Barry was to reintroduce him and continue the stories... Like how they did with Every Single Hero and Villain.
3. Don't blame the character since the character wasn't created in 2009 to replace Wally. He was simply brought back. Blame the Writers/Editorial for wanting Wally gone.
None of us would say this about any other characters, let's not start now with Barry. We wouldn't even say this about Spider-Man who has been screwed over for 30 years out of 60 years of his existence.
Dude, every dc superhero mythos's story telling has been stagnated.
@@trevturp6891 bringing Barry back was fine. Not doing anything with him WITH the Flash Family and instead only focusing on the shitty dead mom retcon was the bad part.
@@theflashfan3234 The dead mom retcon wasn't shitty, it was amazing. And it's extremely good that that was added to his origin story.
@@theflashfan3234 You're right, only focusing on the amazing dead mom retcon was the bad part. But that's not the only bad part. The other bad part is that they didn't give Wally West his own superhero codename, a brand new costume with a cape and googles, and his own book separate from Barry Allen's book.
Wally is the Ben Reilly of DC 🤦🏼♂️
Wally West proving that he's DC's Spider-Man is one of the grimmest and purest moments of my enjoyment with the series. No amount of happiness can be given to him forever, since if he's too happy... [Insert Problem]?
R.I.P
Rest in peace Ben 🙏🏽
Peace*
@@trillionwins2028 autocorrect mb
Wally has been mistreated in ALL platforms! The disrespect!
The comics finally brought Wally back and then killed him off like 4 times, He died in the Titans comic, the Hero in Cirsis, One Minute War, and now the Newest comic.
The Flash TV show barely did anything with him, The DC Animated movies didn't really have him in it at all,
Wally isn't even Mentioned or reference in the Titans show, TITANS! which he is a FOUNDING MEMBER! Not even when Gar went on a weird trip around the Multiverse, they could have easily thrown in a Cameo!
Young Justice, don't get me started on Young Justice. Not only did they kill him off (similar to how Comic!Barry was killed off!) the show got cancelled. then by some miracle the show gets a 2nd chance, TWICE! it got renew for TWO seasons and they didn't bring him back! They even did a whole storyline of one of the team members dying but not actually being dead and The team saved him, and it wasn't Wally!
Garth is another one as writers dont want to do anything with him. They would rather use Caldur than garth and even with him they just run into the grown.
I loved Wally West because of the Justice League/Justice League Unlimited cartoons he was my favorite Flash and he was awesome in the books early on but then the books especially stories like Heroes In Crisis just kept doing the character dirty and they just kept ruining him, I just want good Wally stories I hope they bring him into the movies one day
And you should hope that they change his superhero name.
As a Barrychad, I do honestly feel bad for how they treat Wally
Wally west is to DC what peter parker is to Marvel, the writers just hate it when he is happy and they gotta fuck up his life.
Just let them CO-EXIST!!!!! You a million GLs. You can have two Flashes you technically have two Kid Flashes
Wally is my favorite Flash, and the rebirth suit is his best. Legacy characters are amazing, the classic titans deserve more respect.
Yeesh and here I wanted him back in the Young Justice show. Guess that ain't gonna happen no more
Just one correction on part of the history stuff - the part where Wally goes back to heroes in crisis and finds out it was really savitar's fault was actually the end of Jeremy Adams' first arc on the flash in the 2021 annual
Wally West is the Peter Parker of DC. Eternal punching bag who the writers can never let experience happiness for any substantial amount of time.
This is why its hard to like power scale comic book characters stronger than like Goku.... Like yea flash beats goku on paper but GOKU would never die by a bullet. Bro was getting shot at as a child and surviving. Its mad annoying
@3:53 I’m probably the least black person who could’ve possible commented this but “Black Wally” works just fine no black person in my family or that I’ve ever met has ever had ever said they care about the word or phrase black when talking about black people it’s encompassing and non specific not all white people are Irish but very Irish person is white type thing
Even as slow as he was after COIE. Wally had been shot in the back of the neck in a movie theater, but his speed kicked in instinctively the moment he felt something touch back of his neck. And he was able to catch every bullet fired and save the crowd, And this was when he was speed of sound tops. But they expect us to believe he can be shot from behind and it just takes him by surprise? These idiots need to READ about the characters they write
Miss you men
"Don't worry I am not gonna jump super far back like I've done in many of these videos. So in 1959-" that got me hard.
Barry: you figured a way out of here?
Batman: no.
Barry: if batman ran out of ideas then i guess we're dead...
Wally: you figured a way out of here?
Batman: no.
Wally: *detective mode*
Can’t Barry think fast or faster than light
Wished Wally west is portrayed by Grant gustin just like JWS portrayed Jay Garrick!! Fun fact: JLU Wally west is the doppelgänger of Smallville Lex Luthor!
Wally West was the only flash I ever knew about, I rewatched the 2 seasons of Justice League animated series on dvd/Netflix over and over again growing up; especially when Batman revealed his identity, Wally and Flash became inseparable in my mind. I was actually shocked when I found out about Barry Allen. “Wally West is Kid Flash from teen titans?” Was my first thought
those who watched Justice League will understand and love Wally; this is why I hate what they did to him. He was the Flash that a lot literally grew up with.
I came across the "Wally west gets fucking shot" panel on insta and it actually made me so mad. Years and years have been spent establishing the speedsters PARTICULARLY wally can feel a bullet before it even touches them and react casually without issue, and now hes just fucked because the writer was too lazy to come up with a way he could get hurt. This man has the feats to solo most of the DC universe and he gets fucking shot
In a really old issue, somebody shot Wally in a theatre, and Wally unconsciously stopped time before the bullet pierced his skin.
He was like "huh? Why did the movie stop? Ow! There's a piece of metal poking at my neck!"
I grew up with barry allen but he was boring , kind of one dimensional pre 90's writing, not like I could do any better . Wally was the flash I connected with but they keep killing him, it's getting a bit tiresome. It's kind of why I like marvel better. In my opinion DC has better characters, but they don't know what to do with them.
Wally, Kyle, Connor, Conner, Tim, Donna, and the rest all got done dirty
Yep, DC is pandering to the wrong crowd
Poor Wally he is my favorite superhero, so it’s sad to see him be tortured like this.
They stereotypes most black characters which is what ruins them because not every black has no father not every black teenager lives in the ghetto not every black teen likes rap like just make a character without caring about what social media has made of black teens. And create a relatively good black character miles and staticshock is a start miles is kinda stereotype aswell though to.
Wally is comic is the one of the best flash
Exactly I'm glad Benny had sense to point that out, the moment the click of the gun was heard Wally should have already disarmed the guy man, ugh these writers are ridiculous this is what happens when u write overpowered characters
Fans didn't throw a fit when Barry was killed by the Joker in the movie. DC figures no body really cares.
@@kyleellis1825 they only care when the character is put in a VS's series like deathbattle.
Correction, the gun man.
@@kyleellis1825 Actually fans did throw a fit.
Abra Kadabra is a 1987 Flash villain not a Titans villain. Also Barry came back right before Blackest Night.
Lmao yea, you better point out that about the kids names 🤣🤣🤣 liked this, another good video, but you confused the salvatar moment, it happened in the main flash comic, AFTER he became the blue super powered flash and flash forward.
Also, Abrakadabra is actually a HUGE Wally Villain. In Mark Waid’s run, Abra shows up a lot and is pretty much his main bad guy until they gave him his own reverse flash. I’ve been reading the original mark Waid run recently, Abra’s all over it.
Also, not going to lie, people praise Mark Waid’s fun but tbh, it’s ok. He does great things with Wally and the speed force, but WOW was Linda written SOOOOO BAD in it 🤦🏻
Jeremy Adams run is probably my favorite, he treated EVERYONE great
I just have to say this comics are so stupid there should be no reason for Wally west to be better then berry Allen I just wanted crisis on infinite earth part 1 in every version berry Allen saves tha fucking world Barry Allen made tha speed force. Barry Allen is the flash fuck a Wally west a Richard check fuck a nah let me stop I don’t mean to come on your channel and throw hate cuz this isn’t hate for you it’s just I feeel like it’s so disrespectful for everyone to think Barry so trash when Barry tha one who made us all want to have super speed ??
"Barry Allen made tha speed force."
"when Barry tha one who made us all want to have super speed ??"
I 100% feel like you types of people have never read comics, and only jumped onto Flash with the CW show. The Speedforce did not exist as a concept until Wally West's run as the character. Aside from things like the rogues, basically every iconic aspect of the Flash is something that came as a result of Wally West's run on the Flash, after Barry's death. You can like Barry, but you don't need to spread this level of misinformation, especially when Wally was the first Flash for a lot of people; Especially in stuff like the DCAU.
So nah, you're full of it. Barry "fans" straight up do not read comics and have no respect for them.
@@batterupman in Flash Rebirth (2009 Johns and Van Sciver) Barry Allen Is the Speed force conductor and creator. So you Wally stans should read more comics outside your character.
This is like when Deathstroke "killed" Firestorm with a sword stabbing. 😱😠
I learned about the flash mainly from the cw but i like wally in the comics and this might be wishful thinking but i think they should really make a tv series for wally for the fans.
So they basically made Wally the Spiderman of DC
DC hates him. That's the problem.
Wally is my Flash. Barry should have stayed dead.
No- Wally should’ve been erased forever
No it is still canon that manhattan messed up the timeline and caused wally out of existence why r u so bad at this
I love Barry more
I think Since Rebirth he had this good storyline with GODSPEED
and His whole Relationship with Commander Cold It was one of my 2 fav
and the reason I wanted every comic Before this was just deadpool but with Rebirth i fell in love with
godspeed was my fav . then Their was Metal Event Where we gotten a other great Speedster i would have loved
to be something more but rebirth had good begin and ending , well Godspeed could had better ending but very end
of the story left me with hope to see him one day as his Anti- hero self
Then Come Wally west As the New Flash Aagain I liked his Rebirth suit but Now he had the classic on for no good reason
he had his family i felt like we could had 2 Flash books going on but nope . So i dropped Off completely and Seeing this i
know it Still doesnt feel like He is Worthy To watch i think he could work in new ways but they never going to do that
15:44 HOW DARE YOU?! Garth deserves all the love in the world.
i live for Benny ranting about comics and their writers
It would have been hilarious if someone at DC misinterpreted what they were meant to do and gave Barry a "Side chick" instead.
The problem with dc comic is they are stuck in a never ending cycle of reboot and relaunches, they don't what to do with the sidekicks(wally,conner,Tempest, donna Troy, tim drake) but they keep introducing new sidekicks for the same heros.
I forgot Garth Aqualad existed so hard I thought "why is beast boy not green and why is he acting like an Atlantian?"
I love Barry he is my definitive Flash but the moment you bring a character from the dead unless you have a good plan for the new hero leading the charge you will either ruin the revived hero or create a problem for the new protagonist and one of them always turn into a villain
Wally West simply needs his own moniker like Dick Grayson from Robin to Nightwing. Also, I loved the New52 suit.
No, because HE IS THE FLASH. And was the flash for 25 years during Waid and John’s run
There are so many mistakes in this video. Big mistakes too. Jesus.
Can you do problems with Hal Jordan & Kyle videos ?
Not far back …. 1959
The problem with Wallace Rudolph West can be summed up in two words: Dan DiDio. Luckily, the ship has been righted there.
The problem with Wally is the problem with the comic industry as a whole. The same problem Peter Parker has, combined with the problem Miles Morales. They aren't allowed to grow and are constantly reset... because status quo. Only not only did they halt his growth, they replaced him. And now they don't know what to do with him because they brought Barry back. And now they don't know what to do with him because they already have Barry. So they're just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks... with no thought of if it aligns with or how it will effect his character.
Its ironic how my favorite Marvel and DC characters have both become punching bags, Peter and Wally both deserve so much better.
Just cast Wally west in James gun DCU damnit
I thought the Wally that dies in Titans #1 was came back from the future to warn the Titans that he was going to be shot. That's why he ren on the cosmic treadmill at the beginning of the book.
i can probably see that being the case
@@TevyaSmolka That's what it was, wasn't it? Am I the only one who saw that?
@@dylanbiancamano no your not the only one and honestly that would make a tons of sense especially because Wally west has just rescued his son from Granny goodness in his own book.
@Tevya Smolka YESSS I just read that last week, I was like wtf how's he dead, he just rescued his newborn kid Wade along with Mr. Terrific's, Donna's and Garth's kids
@@JoaGrayson indeed
When you're watching the problem with the flash family and immediately the problem with wally west shows up
HELL YEAH
At this point Wally West is dc version of Spider-Man because he can never be happy
The answer is nothing. My boy is perfect.
I know I'm in the minority but garth (tempest) is one of my favorite DC characters full stop.
I love you man your my favorite
flash characters are too powerful. they have to stay in a limbo state of life and death because he can solve all problems.
Would anyone like to see Spawn and Batman crossover comics on here?
Wheres wally redhead counterpart in the flash arrowverse? Who portrayed Wally west the redhead? Jay Garrick=john Wesley shipp, Barry Allen= John Wesley shipp and Grant gustin, Bart Allen=Jordan fisher
WALLY WEST IS MY ALL TIME FAVORITE FLASH to me he is the best flash because he made the hero his own.
The problem is he kept dying and dying and dying for no reason
Even if he didn't kill everyone . It's out of character for him to blame Harley Quinn