The Refit Enterprise is my favorite all time. I'm not sure if it's because I was 8 when my pops took me to see TMP or something else. The Excelsior and Reliant are also fantastic. Honestly, I have favorites all over the time line, from the TOS Constitution class to Picards Stargazer and Enterprise D & E, or Scotty's TOS Enterprise, no bloody A, B, C or D!
That was incredibly well-done! And those Eagles somehow fit in so well with the 23rd Century Federation world. Imagine if we'd actually seen some of the rebuild happen in a flashback scene during the movie as Kirk is looking up at the Refit from the Travel Pod? Now that would've pleased the fans!
To be honest, the Constitution II class refit was always my personal favorite. The original Constitution class design is iconic, don't get me wrong... but the refit does the ship entirely better.
"Many Federation citizens would be surprised to know that the Eagle Transport shuttles in service since the late 1990s are still in service in the 23rd century. However, the truth is, the versatility, practicality and relative Simplicity of the spacecraft make them invaluable additions to the fleet of small vehicles that can be found at virtually every Federation Shipyard"
Beautiful. Consider putting the month and year as the refit progresses. I know that Scotty said it took 18 months of work. Having the date as the work happens I would love.
start, sometime shortly after 7403.6 (TAS 17: "Bem"), rushed end 7410.2: "The refit Enterprise was rushed into service in 2271 to deal with the V'Ger crisis. The refurbishment and upgrades had not been fully completed and many of the systems, including the transporters and warp engines, were not operational"
I always wondered why in The Motion Picture it had been 2.5 years since the end of Kirk's 5 year mission but only 1.5 years since the started redesign and refit. What happened in that first year?
@@jeffreywitty3088The stardates in the TOS era were nonsensical and not sure how you'd fit 2.5 years in that range. They probably didn't consider TAS canon in 1979 and the 5 year mission stardates may have intended to end in the 5000s. Anyway, canonically the 5 year mission ended in 2270 per Voyager's "Q2" so the earliest TMP could be is 2272.
From what I understand after the Enterprise arrived and was being prepared for its' rebuild the primary-hull was separated and flown to San Francisco where it was rebuilt before being flown back to the rebuilt secondary-hull.
@@jeromemartinez5603 "Any man who could accomplish such a feat, I wouldna dare disappoint!" (I'm Scottish myself so can do a reasonable Scotty impression!)
Awesome job! I love how you put that all together. I can't stand the JJ Abrams movies...favorites are TOS and TNG of course. This made me think of what Scotty said to Kirk..."Admiral, we have just spent the last 18 months redesigning and refitting the Enterprise". I saw TMP when it came out in December of 1979 when I was 10 and loved that movie!
Even in the Star Trek universe it took the near extinction of humanity by nuclear war,and Zefram Cochrane converting a left over weapon of mass destruction,into humanities first warp capable vessel. And at just the right time in history to draw the attention of a Vulcan survey ship,to make the Federation possible. Humanity needed to bottom out before it could reach for the stars.
@TheLAGopher Sounds great! But my bones will be dust by then. But then again, maybe I can be cyrofrozen 🥶 till the day arrives 🤔. Yeah, that sounds like a plan. 💯 I feel better already. 🙂👍
I was there for the premiere of The Motion Picture. In all this time, I have learned the primary and secondary hulls were rebuilt to the point that both are larger from the original. This would require a whole new skeleton for both. Obviously, the warp engines and nacelle struts are new construction. So, my question becomes: is there ANYTHING of the original structure of NCC-1701 that we can point to that makes the refit a refit and not a brand new Enterprise instead of an old Enterprise with a lot of upgrades?
@@Malbeefance good question. It says the spaceframe stayed with the refit one. So we can say that the hull is different but frame is the same frame with new additions
It would not require a new skeleton for both hulls. The primary hull would most likely have an extension ring on the rim to enlarge the saucer. The changes I do see is the shape of the upper and lower bulges. They are shaped differently. But the deck plating and floor beams are most likely intact, as are the wall partitions which are likely been moved around a bit. so the saucer is mostly the original. The secondary hull as this video shows has a larger frame surrounding the original hull . They only need to do is enlarge each deck from the original to the new framing and remove the old hull plates and recycle them into the new design. Also the secondary hull for the refit has a lot of open space, cargo floor to the high ceiling, so they would have to remove some material from the original and recycle that as well maybe into the neck if it's not a new construction. The angle front and rear are different than the original neck ,so the jury is out on that. It's safe to assume most of the skeleton survived the refit , and those parts that can't be saved are most likely recycled into the new design in any way possible thanks to the industrial transporters. In the end we get a gorgeous looking ship .
Not likely a whole skeleton. This was done quite regularly on ships. All of the load bearing keel and ribs/frames remained the same.. there was just localized structural to carry the sea load for things like bulges.
1:48 Was that an Eagle? I've been pleading on the bird app to Alex Kurtzman to see if they can get the license from ITC for the Eagle (Space:1999) so it can be used in the Star Trek universe! It fits perfectly for a workhorse between shipyards! Very nice touch!
For everyone asking "what dates did this happen: start, sometime shortly after 7403.6 (TAS 17: "Bem"), rushed end 7410.2: "The refit Enterprise was rushed into service in 2271 to deal with the V'Ger crisis. The refurbishment and upgrades had not been fully completed and many of the systems, including the transporters and warp engines, were not operational"
Let me start by saying this looks amazing; two thumbs up! =b d= Due to the proximity of Earth, the space-yard appears to be in low earth orbit, where an orbit takes 90 minutes and "night time" is less than 45 minutes. So, the difference in how Enterprise looks emerging from "night" compared to the next time it emerges from "night" is the result of 90 minutes of work.
As wonderful as the refit was for us fans of the original series, with Starfleet's technology, and considering the massive nature of the refit, it would have been easier to just build a new ship from scratch.
The way I picture things happening is that it wasn't originally intended to be a MASSIVE strip-down and rebuild, but rather it was a bunch of progressive physical and operational upgrades to the ship that occurred over the course of the 18 months it took to redesign and refit the ship.
The explanation I remember that was floating around at the time of the movie, which was pre-internet of course, was that the refit started as a series of minor changes that escalated, each change when tested meant that an additional change had tp be made to support it. For example, they wanted to fit new improved warp coils, but that meant a redesign of the warp nacelles. But they placed too much stress on the thin straight pylons, so they had to be replaced with the angled, flared ones... and so on until what started as a couple of months of upgrades turned into an 18 month build of what's essentially a whole new ship. So yeah, you're pretty much spot on.
@@DrVesuvius70 I think another pre-internet explanation that was somewhat supported in print by the STTMP official novelization, was that the K'tinga class Klingon cruiser had become known to Starfleet when the Enterprise started it's upgrades,and was deemed to outclass the standard Constitution Class ships so much as to become an existential threat to the Federation. What had started out as moderate mid life upgrades to the Enterprise,became a test bed for all sorts of advanced systems coming right off the design board and being jammed into the ship to offset the advances in Klingon technology gathered by Starfleet intelligence. The Enterprise was in drydock anyways.And it had a Chief Engineer on hand with practical expertise pushing the Enterprise up to and beyond its specified design limits.Who could work with the refit team putting in new systems.
Or a Balao class sub from first production run to when the class was retired from US service. The USS Tusk is still in service with the Taiwan navy as the Hai Pao
The USS Albany and members of her class which were completely new from the hull up.. and the USS Midway which had her hull and flight deck enlarged to huge proportions.
TMP era ships are the most beautiful of the franchise and you can't convince me otherwise.
Hmmm, The Excelsior Class is my favorite. 😀
Agreed! Perfect combination of form and function!
Excelsior Class? you are correct TheNodyme except for one thing, round nacelles, i'm a late 60's guy.
The Refit Enterprise is my favorite all time. I'm not sure if it's because I was 8 when my pops took me to see TMP or something else. The Excelsior and Reliant are also fantastic. Honestly, I have favorites all over the time line, from the TOS Constitution class to Picards Stargazer and Enterprise D & E, or Scotty's TOS Enterprise, no bloody A, B, C or D!
Still a beauty. Enterprise-D is overrated. (Sorry, TNG fans!)
"And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by." Well done sir
"Sea Fever."
Now that is a proper starship. Clean lines, no boy-racer add-ons, everything functional and with purpose.
Everything about The Big D was clean and functional...just say'n.
@@jaybodner4189 Not really. Those curves are entirely for flare on the D.
Nothing beats the Refit E. The starship of dreams.
The touch I love is the Eagles doing the flybys of the Enterprise. Beautifully done.
The music of Undiscovered Country is amazing choice!! I’m glad to see others use it!!
Agreed.
The sexiest Enterprise of them all. Nice job!
That was incredibly well-done! And those Eagles somehow fit in so well with the 23rd Century Federation world. Imagine if we'd actually seen some of the rebuild happen in a flashback scene during the movie as Kirk is looking up at the Refit from the Travel Pod? Now that would've pleased the fans!
She's a beautiful lady and we love her.
Sir, you just put two of my favorite things together in one video - the Enterprise and the Eagle! Bravo! 👍😎
Thank you so much 😄
I wondered if anyone else saw them and knew.
Love the radio chatter and the sound of her powering up, ready for deep space once again...
Fantastic fly by of the greatest and most beautiful
Ship in all of science fiction. Great music and fantastic job
To be honest, the Constitution II class refit was always my personal favorite. The original Constitution class design is iconic, don't get me wrong... but the refit does the ship entirely better.
@@seanwolslau-holdren6731 agreed
I like the Eagles flying by. 😁
@@landonjones258 😄
"Many Federation citizens would be surprised to know that the Eagle Transport shuttles in service since the late 1990s are still in service in the 23rd century. However, the truth is, the versatility, practicality and relative Simplicity of the spacecraft make them invaluable additions to the fleet of small vehicles that can be found at virtually every Federation Shipyard"
Funny. they don't feel out of place here.
They fit really well!
It would be possible for Federation to find the Moonbase? I think so! An interesting crossover though 😀
Beautiful lighting and color use. Thank you, I enjoyed that a lot.
Beautiful. Consider putting the month and year as the refit progresses. I know that Scotty said it took 18 months of work. Having the date as the work happens I would love.
@@mickeyholding7970 consider it done 👍🏻
A year in a half to be exact
start, sometime shortly after 7403.6 (TAS 17: "Bem"), rushed end 7410.2: "The refit Enterprise was rushed into service in 2271 to deal with the V'Ger crisis. The refurbishment and upgrades had not been fully completed and many of the systems, including the transporters and warp engines, were not operational"
I always wondered why in The Motion Picture it had been 2.5 years since the end of Kirk's 5 year mission but only 1.5 years since the started redesign and refit. What happened in that first year?
@@jeffreywitty3088The stardates in the TOS era were nonsensical and not sure how you'd fit 2.5 years in that range. They probably didn't consider TAS canon in 1979 and the 5 year mission stardates may have intended to end in the 5000s. Anyway, canonically the 5 year mission ended in 2270 per Voyager's "Q2" so the earliest TMP could be is 2272.
I love how you added the eagles from Space 1999 in that shot! Love it!
My all time favorite design. 2nd only to the OG series Enterprise.
From 1:28 is when the real magic begins, BEHOLD the beautiful and stunning refit ENTERPRISE 👍👍❤
A true beauty... Nothing short of perfection!
From what I understand after the Enterprise arrived and was being prepared for its' rebuild the primary-hull was separated and flown to San Francisco where it was rebuilt before being flown back to the rebuilt secondary-hull.
The book, A flag full stars is where that came from.
That was beautiful!
It’s so beautiful, that I’m crying
She's so beautiful she could have been designed by Italians! The Alfa Romeo 33 of the stars💘
Very nicely done, wonderful animation!
What a beautiful ship. I absolutely love the music from Star Trek 6.
Admiral we've spent 18 months refitting the Enterprise, how in the name of hell can I have her ready in 12 hours, she needs more work Sir a shakedown!
"They gave her back to me, Scotty..." "Gave her back, Sir? I doubt it was that easy with Nogura!"
@@iana6713 your late! Any could accomplish such a feat, she'll launch on time Sir, an she'll be ready!
@@iana6713 I would not dare disappoint, mind slip!
@@jeromemartinez5603 "Any man who could accomplish such a feat, I wouldna dare disappoint!" (I'm Scottish myself so can do a reasonable Scotty impression!)
@@iana6713You do it well🥰🥰
I love the Space:1999 Eagles you put in ! (I see what you did there).
Awesome job! I love how you put that all together. I can't stand the JJ Abrams movies...favorites are TOS and TNG of course. This made me think of what Scotty said to Kirk..."Admiral, we have just spent the last 18 months redesigning and refitting the Enterprise". I saw TMP when it came out in December of 1979 when I was 10 and loved that movie!
The Eagles from Space:1999 were a nice touch.
Wonderful! I love the detail! 😀
It was so cool, also the little eagles ships from " space 1999". great idea to put them by side of the Enterprise.....
My god that’s a beautiful ship, peace and love to you all and may your dreams come true ❤
Thank you, and same to you.😊
That was amazing. I will always feel the Refit was always the best version of The Enterprise.
Nicely done! Very nicely done, indeed! 🖖
@@davidellis3087 🖖🏻 thank you so much
Thankyou for the eagle tie in ...I luv the crossover great work
Yes! MORE please.
So beautiful!! Dearest Lady Enterprise❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰. Treat Her like a Lady…& She’ll always bring you home…
Thank you! I love a video where you can’t see what’s happening at all. It lets you use your imagination
If society doesn't get it together, this will never be a reality. I wholly believe that this can, one day, become reality.
You're not alone.
I hope we can
@@JGG1701Agreed
Even in the Star Trek universe it took the near extinction of humanity by nuclear war,and Zefram Cochrane converting a left over weapon of mass destruction,into humanities first warp capable vessel. And at just the right time in history to draw the attention of a Vulcan survey ship,to make the Federation possible. Humanity needed to bottom out before it could reach for the stars.
@TheLAGopher
Sounds great!
But my bones will be dust by then. But then again, maybe I can be cyrofrozen 🥶 till the day arrives 🤔.
Yeah, that sounds like a plan. 💯
I feel better already. 🙂👍
I'd love to see a longer, slower version of this, it's very well done, and the eagles are a nice touch. LLAP
Ha! Loved the Eagles flitting by.
Loving the cameo Eagle Transporters
JEEZ!!!!! What work!!!!! NICE-VERY NICE!!!!!
I was there for the premiere of The Motion Picture. In all this time, I have learned the primary and secondary hulls were rebuilt to the point that both are larger from the original. This would require a whole new skeleton for both. Obviously, the warp engines and nacelle struts are new construction. So, my question becomes: is there ANYTHING of the original structure of NCC-1701 that we can point to that makes the refit a refit and not a brand new Enterprise instead of an old Enterprise with a lot of upgrades?
@@Malbeefance good question. It says the spaceframe stayed with the refit one. So we can say that the hull is different but frame is the same frame with new additions
It would not require a new skeleton for both hulls. The primary hull would most likely have an extension ring on the rim to enlarge the saucer. The changes I do see is the shape of the upper and lower bulges. They are shaped differently. But the deck plating and floor beams are most likely intact, as are the wall partitions which are likely been moved around a bit. so the saucer is mostly the original. The secondary hull as this video shows has a larger frame surrounding the original hull . They only need to do is enlarge each deck from the original to the new framing and remove the old hull plates and recycle them into the new design. Also the secondary hull for the refit has a lot of open space, cargo floor to the high ceiling, so they would have to remove some material from the original and recycle that as well maybe into the neck if it's not a new construction. The angle front and rear are different than the original neck ,so the jury is out on that. It's safe to assume most of the skeleton survived the refit , and those parts that can't be saved are most likely recycled into the new design in any way possible thanks to the industrial transporters. In the end we get a gorgeous looking ship .
Not likely a whole skeleton.
This was done quite regularly on ships. All of the load bearing keel and ribs/frames remained the same.. there was just localized structural to carry the sea load for things like bulges.
I like the Space 1999 eagle doing a fly-by.
Beautiful. Brought a tear to my eye
@@kevinaharris5086 thank you so much 🖖🏻
Looks like an awesome video cut scene from a vintage 90's video game.......
Nicely done! 👏
music is very well chosen ❤
I would be forever grateful if you did a version where the space dock disappears. But if not…. This is magnificent.
Perfection!
that was freaken sick!! i loved it!!👍🏻🖖🏻
nice effects!
Awesome job.
That's my girl.🎉😊❤
1:48 Was that an Eagle?
I've been pleading on the bird app to Alex Kurtzman to see if they can get the license from ITC for the Eagle (Space:1999) so it can be used in the Star Trek universe! It fits perfectly for a workhorse between shipyards! Very nice touch!
I was like... Was that an Eagle ??? lol
Love that flight of four Eagles from Space 1999.
Very nice job. Never thought the refit Enterprise some timber frame elements though. 😉
Great to see how she got refitted from her original Constitution I configuration to Constitution II.
We will get the bells & whistles on Tuesday
Love the Eagle's flyby!
“And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by. Sulu, that star on the right....."
Lovely medley.
For everyone asking "what dates did this happen:
start, sometime shortly after 7403.6 (TAS 17: "Bem"), rushed end 7410.2: "The refit Enterprise was rushed into service in 2271 to deal with the V'Ger crisis. The refurbishment and upgrades had not been fully completed and many of the systems, including the transporters and warp engines, were not operational"
All I ask, is a tall ship and a a star to steer her by.
Very nice !!
Great stuff
Very very nice 🖖
The 1701 Constitution Refit is peak Trek. Hands down.
Why is the dockyard abuzz with Space 1999 Eagles? I guess they ran out of Work Bees.
Moonbase Eagles??? :)
@@sr22gts my signature move 😏
great job
Awesome
Nice but am I losing it? I'm sure I saw some Eagles flying past the Enterprise? Awesome. 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣💯💯
@@aanubis5874 that was chef’s kiss 😂😂😂
Awesome !
@@diogocatalano9557 thank you 🖖🏻
Lovely!
@ 1:46, I see you stuck a few Eagles from Space:1999 in there.
“Engineers LOVE to change things”
Why, yes, Doctor McCoy. We do…
Not half bad!
Nice
You’d think in the 22nd century that they would improve non flickering lighting. 😮😅
Very nice.
Waitaminute....were those "Space 1999" Eagles flying by the Enterprise at 1: 45?
@@les4767 yup
@@EgeSkywalker117 Your video just increased in awesome by about 10,000 geek points.
@@les4767 😂 thank you so much
Let me start by saying this looks amazing; two thumbs up! =b d=
Due to the proximity of Earth, the space-yard appears to be in low earth orbit, where an orbit takes 90 minutes and "night time" is less than 45 minutes. So, the difference in how Enterprise looks emerging from "night" compared to the next time it emerges from "night" is the result of 90 minutes of work.
Nice! But did we see some Eagles from Moonbase Alpha fly by?
Yup it’s a signature move
Cool she is so pretty
As wonderful as the refit was for us fans of the original series, with Starfleet's technology, and considering the massive nature of the refit, it would have been easier to just build a new ship from scratch.
It looks like someone beat me to it where at 1:46. I saw several space 1999 Eagles fly by!
Love the John Barry score from Star Trek: the motion picture
I don’t know, the dry dock walls were in the way for most of the refit 🤣 But seriously, cool video.
Re: closing radio chatter: Enterprise A was not a refit, it was built from scratch.
it's not Enterprise "A" as you can see 😀
Small issue, I'm pretty sure the refit turned the main deflector (the round thing at the front of the tube-shaped bottom hull) blue, not orange.
@@1Scimetar at start, it’s orange/gold. Not blue
The way I picture things happening is that it wasn't originally intended to be a MASSIVE strip-down and rebuild, but rather it was a bunch of progressive physical and operational upgrades to the ship that occurred over the course of the 18 months it took to redesign and refit the ship.
The explanation I remember that was floating around at the time of the movie, which was pre-internet of course, was that the refit started as a series of minor changes that escalated, each change when tested meant that an additional change had tp be made to support it. For example, they wanted to fit new improved warp coils, but that meant a redesign of the warp nacelles. But they placed too much stress on the thin straight pylons, so they had to be replaced with the angled, flared ones... and so on until what started as a couple of months of upgrades turned into an 18 month build of what's essentially a whole new ship.
So yeah, you're pretty much spot on.
@@DrVesuvius70
I think another pre-internet explanation that was somewhat supported in print by the STTMP official novelization, was that the K'tinga class Klingon cruiser had become known to Starfleet when the Enterprise started it's upgrades,and was deemed to outclass the standard Constitution Class ships so much as to become an existential threat to the Federation. What had started out as moderate mid life upgrades
to the Enterprise,became a test bed for all sorts of advanced systems coming right off the design board and being jammed into the ship
to offset the advances in Klingon technology gathered by Starfleet intelligence.
The Enterprise was in drydock anyways.And it had a Chief Engineer on hand with practical expertise pushing the Enterprise up to and beyond
its specified design limits.Who could work with the refit team putting in new systems.
The drydock structure being in the way during the side views blocked most of the timelapse from being clearly seen.
Exemplary work my friend!
@@OctaneInTheVeins thank you so much 🙏🏻
Would've been much better without the space dock structure in the way.
WAIT!!! Were those Eagle's I saw flying thru? :o)
Folks say the changes were too dramatic but compare an Essex Class carrier of WWII to the same ships around Vietnam. Very drastic changes.
Or a Balao class sub from first production run to when the class was retired from US service. The USS Tusk is still in service with the Taiwan navy as the Hai Pao
The USS Albany and members of her class which were completely new from the hull up.. and the USS Midway which had her hull and flight deck enlarged to huge proportions.
A pity a lot of it is obscured by the outer dock shell. Love the Space 1999 Eagle spacecraft tho :)