Had diesels for years and years (still got my truck), but I found I was doing less mileage and while a good amount of long journeys, I do plenty of short ones. In my petrol car, the engine gets up to working temp within a couple of miles, while my last diesel took about 9-10 miles. Worth considering. Plus the crazy politics surrounding diesel which is so much cleaner than it used to be.
On the b48 the torque starts tapering off past 4900rpm, with the engine adding timing to keep the torque/power at the 184ps mark. It’s a detuned 330i engine, on the plus side the turbo is barely doing any work, so is unlikely to fail and the higher compression pistons give you a nice mpg advantage over the higher output car. It can’t really compete with the 320d on that front, but having a little less weight over the front axle is a good benefit. If you do a lot of miles then the 320d wins it easily
Weight over the front axle makes a huge difference. Having had two 320D's and 530D's each, the latter which definitely could not keep up around tighter bends and roundabouts due to more understeer, I can only imagine something like the 330I makes the best compromise. Even though the 6-cylinders are lovely to hear and I've become a more docile driver with age. The 320D has always been the best all-rounder for the money for someone doing a bit of mileage, shame the diesel is shunned.
Torque is what matters!!! Engine elasticity leads to less gear changes and I love it, even with an automatic transmission. A 320i is no match for a 320d. If I needed a petrol car, I would look for a 330i. I don't like high revs and I do a decent number of highway kilometers, so diesel is still the only option for me.
I have a huge obsession with diesel BMW's and the 320d is no exception. Although I don't own a BMW, I really like these diesel vehicles because of the sportiness and this raspy diesel sound.
The fact that BMW(all german car marker do the same) makes the 2.0l diesel engine slightly more powerful and also mild hybrid shows you only one thing:they don't want to give up diesel engines and because Germany is the country that runs Europe they will keep looking the other way when people ask about the DPF. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against diesel engines but just f-ing build a nice petrol hybrid engine and not heavy plug-in cars because not everyone drives all day long on the highway for hundred of miles
@@derbigpr500 it's not about someones agenda, it's about the German car makers building cars first for their market. Have you seen how awful is on fuel in the city and how good it is on highway speeds the 320i? Is there another better fuel than diesel for fast driving with good fuel consumption? But this makes sense only in Germany,the rest of the world needs a powertrain good on fuel in the city and highway up to 140kph,and hybrids can do that. I own two cars,one turbo petrol and one turbo diesel. The diesel for me had only two things better than petrol,more torque and better fuel consumption. But the extra torque it's only necessary if you have a heavy vehicle,the 3000rpm extra of the petrol engine are way nicer. Better fuel consumption for the diesel is only on the highway,for everything else you have hybrids without the downsides of the DPF. On the other hand with the turbo petrol engine you have nicer noise when revving,more revs,a lot less noise when cruising,less time to warm up the engine,no problems to get inside restricted areas like diesel engines, lighter engine
Does the information here apply in the touring versions as well? We do 6-8k miles a year. Mainly shorter trips but also including holidays around the country. With the government regulations planned to change to petrol but this review is making me reconsider that.
I am struggling to weigh up diesel or petrol when it's time to part with my trusty f31 320D (non ad-blue). After some horrible experiences with another car (non BMW), with this dastardly SCR system fitted, believe me if you've had your pockets dented you will know, then the petrol version is looking more attractive.
Can you do the same with the 320d xdrive msport it's the f31 model,to be honest I press the sports button and don't really notice any difference in the suspension or steering,
What an enjoyable watch! Would love to know from your experience, what would be quicker, the bmw 320d or the Mercedes 250d? Different contrasts I know, but what do you think
The BMW 320D isn’t built to go up against the Mercedes C250D. The 320D vs C220D And 325D vs C250D These are both previous generations now though, the BMW F30 generation and the Mercedes W205 generation. BMW stopped making that model engine 2015/2016 and Mercedes stopped theirs 2017/2018 To answer the question now, 320D vs C220D - BMW is quicker 325D vs C250D - BMW is quicker again
What aftermarket exhaust would you recommend for 320i ? And does it affect insurance premium a lot ? Also re-map is constantly on my mind, as the stock doesn’t quite cut it, just worrying about the engine longevity. Thanks
More linear power delivery Better engine sound (after market exhaust) More Re-map capability Less probability of timing chain issue in the future (N47 had the issue, not sure ahout B47)
Awesome video. Would you recommend the 320d for someone who is not a fan of engine noise? Also, could you give some sort of description of what the 320d sounds like at 120km/h and above?
"Need help buying your next car?" You could have included costs here, rather than concentrating on how quickly you can lose it going round a roundabout.
Had diesels for years and years (still got my truck), but I found I was doing less mileage and while a good amount of long journeys, I do plenty of short ones. In my petrol car, the engine gets up to working temp within a couple of miles, while my last diesel took about 9-10 miles. Worth considering.
Plus the crazy politics surrounding diesel which is so much cleaner than it used to be.
This Chanel should have millions subscribed. One of the best car review shows on TH-cam !
On the b48 the torque starts tapering off past 4900rpm, with the engine adding timing to keep the torque/power at the 184ps mark. It’s a detuned 330i engine, on the plus side the turbo is barely doing any work, so is unlikely to fail and the higher compression pistons give you a nice mpg advantage over the higher output car.
It can’t really compete with the 320d on that front, but having a little less weight over the front axle is a good benefit.
If you do a lot of miles then the 320d wins it easily
Weight over the front axle makes a huge difference. Having had two 320D's and 530D's each, the latter which definitely could not keep up around tighter bends and roundabouts due to more understeer, I can only imagine something like the 330I makes the best compromise. Even though the 6-cylinders are lovely to hear and I've become a more docile driver with age.
The 320D has always been the best all-rounder for the money for someone doing a bit of mileage, shame the diesel is shunned.
Torque is what matters!!! Engine elasticity leads to less gear changes and I love it, even with an automatic transmission. A 320i is no match for a 320d. If I needed a petrol car, I would look for a 330i. I don't like high revs and I do a decent number of highway kilometers, so diesel is still the only option for me.
I have a huge obsession with diesel BMW's and the 320d is no exception.
Although I don't own a BMW, I really like these diesel vehicles because of the sportiness and this raspy diesel sound.
The fact that BMW(all german car marker do the same) makes the 2.0l diesel engine slightly more powerful and also mild hybrid shows you only one thing:they don't want to give up diesel engines and because Germany is the country that runs Europe they will keep looking the other way when people ask about the DPF. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against diesel engines but just f-ing build a nice petrol hybrid engine and not heavy plug-in cars because not everyone drives all day long on the highway for hundred of miles
Diesels are just nicer to drive in every way. It's got nothing to do with someone's agenda.
@@derbigpr500 it's not about someones agenda, it's about the German car makers building cars first for their market. Have you seen how awful is on fuel in the city and how good it is on highway speeds the 320i? Is there another better fuel than diesel for fast driving with good fuel consumption? But this makes sense only in Germany,the rest of the world needs a powertrain good on fuel in the city and highway up to 140kph,and hybrids can do that. I own two cars,one turbo petrol and one turbo diesel. The diesel for me had only two things better than petrol,more torque and better fuel consumption. But the extra torque it's only necessary if you have a heavy vehicle,the 3000rpm extra of the petrol engine are way nicer. Better fuel consumption for the diesel is only on the highway,for everything else you have hybrids without the downsides of the DPF. On the other hand with the turbo petrol engine you have nicer noise when revving,more revs,a lot less noise when cruising,less time to warm up the engine,no problems to get inside restricted areas like diesel engines, lighter engine
Does the information here apply in the touring versions as well? We do 6-8k miles a year. Mainly shorter trips but also including holidays around the country. With the government regulations planned to change to petrol but this review is making me reconsider that.
Great video! I love my 2019 320D
I am struggling to weigh up diesel or petrol when it's time to part with my trusty f31 320D (non ad-blue). After some horrible experiences with another car (non BMW), with this dastardly SCR system fitted, believe me if you've had your pockets dented you will know, then the petrol version is looking more attractive.
Can you do the same with the 320d xdrive msport it's the f31 model,to be honest I press the sports button and don't really notice any difference in the suspension or steering,
I had the 320d xdrive for 3 days now from sixt. Its kind od slow and hard to reach the 200km/h.
What an enjoyable watch! Would love to know from your experience, what would be quicker, the bmw 320d or the Mercedes 250d? Different contrasts I know, but what do you think
250d is actually a bit quicker. The 320d is more enjoyable to drive though.
The BMW 320D isn’t built to go up against the Mercedes C250D.
The 320D vs C220D
And 325D vs C250D
These are both previous generations now though, the BMW F30 generation and the Mercedes W205 generation. BMW stopped making that model engine 2015/2016 and Mercedes stopped theirs 2017/2018
To answer the question now,
320D vs C220D - BMW is quicker
325D vs C250D - BMW is quicker again
in the beginning of the video around 8 seconds that grey Mercedes to the right in the back next to the land rovers, what model is it?
Mercedes C63s
I have driven 2014 bmw 320i d m sport and I found it really punches hard
What aftermarket exhaust would you recommend for 320i ? And does it affect insurance premium a lot ? Also re-map is constantly on my mind, as the stock doesn’t quite cut it, just worrying about the engine longevity.
Thanks
Remap on any car is fine provided the tuner is good, and it’s well maintained. NEVER use long life servicing, do an oil change every 8k miles.
Just remember that you cannot modify car manufactured after 06.2020. ECU's are still locked
@@wojciechkanclerskijb4 u’ll love it
@@narakuwu4587 thanks for the tip. I do not have BMW at the moment.. Selling my A4 B9 to buy G21/G31 or G32 ;)
The hybrid engine in in the 320d, is that in every g20 320d or is that like specific version you can get ?
it was initially a specific version for about 8 months but most g20 320d's are hybrid as that's the only way you can get them now.
Love your channel mate, very helpful specially with economy
Are they reliable though? I’ve heard about the timing chain problem? Any thoughts?
I think that was before 2016 but can be wrong
Own a 340i 2022 pre lci jb4 with catless downpipe no problems at all
Petrol twin turbo Only Puts out 184 bhp ?
Its not twinturbo, it is twin power turbo because the turbo has 2 intakes but there is only one turbo in 320d-s and 320i -s
Great comparison, thank you.
Why buy petrol version then?
More linear power delivery
Better engine sound (after market exhaust)
More Re-map capability
Less probability of timing chain issue in the future (N47 had the issue, not sure ahout B47)
@@pstrokeslibsarctic B engines dont have chain issues. but petrol is always smoother, longer revs
Great video helped me choose
Thanks for the information.
nice video👍🏻
Awesome video. Would you recommend the 320d for someone who is not a fan of engine noise?
Also, could you give some sort of description of what the 320d sounds like at 120km/h and above?
It’s pretty smooth for a diesel. If you want a quiet diesel for motorway journeys the audi a4 is your best bet.
@@ParagonCarsLondon thank you.
But £43k min, for the small engine which are underpowered for that car.
Second hand Audi RS3 anyday over any BMW.
Ta.
New subscriber here, would love to see you review a 125i (B48)
"Need help buying your next car?" You could have included costs here, rather than concentrating on how quickly you can lose it going round a roundabout.
There are plenty of car magazines, websites, and other channels where you can find that. I really like how this content is different in a way.
for a luxury car it rides crap borderline uncomfortable
Does it have run flats?