I'm a professional translator and type a lot all day long. I use O-rings in my Redragon mechanical keyboard. It has brown switches, so it's supposed to be quieter, but it still makes some considerable noise. I didn't notice a lot of difference in the noise levels with the O-rings, it's barely noticeable. True that it didn't occur to me to use two rings under each keycap, and I might try that. HOWEVER, I did notice a lot of difference in the impact strength on my fingers, and I'd go as far as saying that this is the best reason to use O-rings, especially for people like me who type a lot. If you're having sore fingers from intensive typing, O-rings are for you.
@@JonnaX, I'm using two rings under each keycap now. Again, not a lot of difference in the noise, but the impact cushioning is even better. While using more than two rings might be (theoretically) possible with other keyboard models, with mine it's not feasible (yes, I've tried it) because the keycap may get loose or, inversely, may get stuck. So, I recommend using two O-rings under each keycap, but not more than two.
@@trevorfranks69, you mean as a translator? AI has not reached the quality level of human translation yet, and it won't for a long time. Machine translation is okay for short, informal texts, like a restaurant menu item or "where is the bathroom?", but it chokes with complex sentences, nuances, synonyms, context, slang, proper tone, culturally-sensitive issues, and much more. AI is not ready for the kind of things that I translate: scientific research articles, instruction manuals and help for complex, specialized devices and software, sensitive press releases where the wrong wording could lead to legal consequences, etc. And the day it is ready for it, it's not just the translators that will be obsolete. The people who would read those translations will be redundant, too, so what's the point? There is a new modality of translation, though, where they do a machine translation and a human revises and corrects it. It's supposed to save time while keeping the same quality, but in practice and in my experience, it takes twice the time and the results still fall short of a human-only translation because the sentence structure can be awkward and hard to correct.
WARNING: Razer hunter line of keyboards make the clicking sound UNDERNEATH the keys, so there is nothing you can do to the actual keys to mitigate the sound without opening up the entire board. Just an FYI for razer owners
That's a shame honestly, Razer makes some really beautiful and good feeling keyboards but it's so noisy, in my case I have the Blackwidow V4 and boy it's incredible but also incredibly noisy, so I returned it. Look's like I won't be able to have a full Razer set :(
Thank you good Sir! A weird video topic to watch, but someone had to do it...Not all hero wear capes. I'm already looking for the best place to buy these O-rings.
Great video! I agree: a single o-ring doesn't make a ton of difference. Double up is too mushy for me, gotta try a thicker o-ring to find the sweet spot.
i use 2 o-rings just on my spacebar, on my ducky 3 brown switches, the spacebar was the only key that was abnormally loud. i think huntsman mini had abnormally loud spacebar too. its common.
It will work well if you get the right size, if one is not working its not big enough. Last time I did an o-ring mod was almost 8 years ago and this was before you really could buy "keyboard stuff" so I ordered them from a site called MC Car as they were automotive parts (only like $1.00 for a hundred) and so I got various sizes and hardness. I had a loud keyboard and it made it so much more berable, and with the hardness being higher you can get dampening without it feeling too squishy. You can get used to the squshy feeling, but its just really not idea for a mechanical keyboard IMO, as that is like a membrane keyboard and the very thing we are trying to get away from. Also it turned my Cherry Reds into Cheery Silver basically, the faster key stroke (shorter distance) helped me in gaming and typing speed.
i never was a big keybaord / switch fanatic , had corsair strafe since it came out... 2020 isomehow i found a pack of orings (same as yours) at my office and i placed them for fun... the typing is the same i think, but the sound is a lil bit les "high pitched"wich i like... i recently got me a royal kludge K98 for 65euro on black friday... im very very pleased with this keyboard, even it is a company from china it is 10 times better than the Corsair strafe, the quality is aweseome, u cant bend the keyboad it feels very hard, also the stabilizers doesnt rattle at all.. overall the whole feel is more highquality! i just ordered some SA keycaps and some orings im excited to see how they will work out on this keyboard ...
Going through the same thing right now! I just moved into a new office and my next door office neighbor complains constantly about the sound of my keyboard. To be fair they have told me they have sensory issues. Will try these o-rings see if they help.
Unfortunately not usable for an Apex Pro TKL using OmniSwitches 2.0 or Wooting keyboards. These o-rings limit the travel distance of the key and those switches that have variable actuation point or even double action setups depending on how hard the key is pressed, will not work the same or at all. Just keep this in mind.
I'm waiting for another pack of orings, but now I have some keys with one, oners with two and some with three Orings. I have see that some keys only hangs well two Orings, but there are others that can have three. I plan to put three Orings on all the keys tha can handle it and two on the rest. I carry my mechanical keyboard to work, so I want it to bee the most quite I can...also is a matter of taste, I prefer it to be more silent too. I'm new in this world of mechanical keyboards, and buy one for curiosity of how it feels compared with a membrane one, the ability to switch the keys to personalice it, that I read they are faster than membrane ones, and that my office keyboard was always dusty due to it's design. Two or three months ago on my office was a tendency with keyboards an my companions received some mechanical keyboards they bought online. So I decided to buy one...and now I love it, wish it could be as quiet as a membrane one, but it feels better (is an optical keyboard with yellow switches, I supose that's the reason some keys can handle three orings xD), and my companions were suprised It was quiet.
im working on an leverless arcade controller, i use red mx switches, i built it specifically for normal sized mx switches, because i can't find kailh choc switches here. does o-rings help with faster inputs? like i want have that feeling my switch inputs faster, like low profile switches.
Late reply, but I tried this using akko silver v3s and while it does not affect the actuation point, it does reduce total travel. It feels like it barely goes down, touchscreen-esque feel, took a while to get used to it but I like how it feels on the movement buttons. Probably placebo but it feels like my left ring finger gets less tired
Better to use a single thick” o-ring then doubling up small ones. Also quality matters, just like key switches..cheapo o-rings don’t sound half as good a quality o-ring..
when you put rubber o rings on your keyboard, your putting membrane into your keyboard. The o rings make the switch mushy, and that's what they use on membranes.
Not true. The o-ring only stops the key from bottoming out in a loud clack. The entire travel through to the activation point and beyond, you dont feel anything from the rubber. It literally just cushions the bottom out. On a membrane kb the entire travel of the key is the mushy membrane.
Actually, I am looking for "membrane". My Apple keyboard's small rubber cup is torn apart, so the key does not spring up. The broken rubber cup is too small and thin to attach using adhesive. So, I am wondering if I could put this O-ring. Is this O-ring thing springy as scissor switch keyboard's rubber cup?
OOOOOOOOOO yeah. Do you like O-rings? Too mushy?
Yes
@@LUCID.ReactionIQ which?
I'm a professional translator and type a lot all day long. I use O-rings in my Redragon mechanical keyboard. It has brown switches, so it's supposed to be quieter, but it still makes some considerable noise. I didn't notice a lot of difference in the noise levels with the O-rings, it's barely noticeable. True that it didn't occur to me to use two rings under each keycap, and I might try that. HOWEVER, I did notice a lot of difference in the impact strength on my fingers, and I'd go as far as saying that this is the best reason to use O-rings, especially for people like me who type a lot. If you're having sore fingers from intensive typing, O-rings are for you.
as a noob i was actually worried that it might do the opposite thing, this is great to know. will have to order me some o-rings now
@@JonnaX, I'm using two rings under each keycap now. Again, not a lot of difference in the noise, but the impact cushioning is even better. While using more than two rings might be (theoretically) possible with other keyboard models, with mine it's not feasible (yes, I've tried it) because the keycap may get loose or, inversely, may get stuck. So, I recommend using two O-rings under each keycap, but not more than two.
How are you not replaced by AI yet?
@@trevorfranks69, you mean as a translator? AI has not reached the quality level of human translation yet, and it won't for a long time. Machine translation is okay for short, informal texts, like a restaurant menu item or "where is the bathroom?", but it chokes with complex sentences, nuances, synonyms, context, slang, proper tone, culturally-sensitive issues, and much more. AI is not ready for the kind of things that I translate: scientific research articles, instruction manuals and help for complex, specialized devices and software, sensitive press releases where the wrong wording could lead to legal consequences, etc. And the day it is ready for it, it's not just the translators that will be obsolete. The people who would read those translations will be redundant, too, so what's the point?
There is a new modality of translation, though, where they do a machine translation and a human revises and corrects it. It's supposed to save time while keeping the same quality, but in practice and in my experience, it takes twice the time and the results still fall short of a human-only translation because the sentence structure can be awkward and hard to correct.
@@goytabr Which brand/thickness do you use? I use silent tactile switches already, but am looking to lessen impact as you say.
thank you for using different forces to show the range of sound. i havent been able to find a video that does that yet. great demonstration
Awesome video. Very informative and straight to the point.
WARNING: Razer hunter line of keyboards make the clicking sound UNDERNEATH the keys, so there is nothing you can do to the actual keys to mitigate the sound without opening up the entire board. Just an FYI for razer owners
That's a shame honestly, Razer makes some really beautiful and good feeling keyboards but it's so noisy, in my case I have the Blackwidow V4 and boy it's incredible but also incredibly noisy, so I returned it. Look's like I won't be able to have a full Razer set :(
@@RenzoCarter-p2l Did you have green switches in it? A complete deal breaker for me, Yellow switches all the way
Thank you good Sir! A weird video topic to watch, but someone had to do it...Not all hero wear capes. I'm already looking for the best place to buy these O-rings.
Great video! I agree: a single o-ring doesn't make a ton of difference. Double up is too mushy for me, gotta try a thicker o-ring to find the sweet spot.
I previously used the thinner o-rings but they were inadequate. The single thicker o-ring is perfect. I use them on all my keycaps.
@@briancrink what hardness/thickness did you end up using?
i use 2 o-rings just on my spacebar, on my ducky 3 brown switches, the spacebar was the only key that was abnormally loud.
i think huntsman mini had abnormally loud spacebar too. its common.
It will work well if you get the right size, if one is not working its not big enough.
Last time I did an o-ring mod was almost 8 years ago and this was before you really could buy "keyboard stuff" so I ordered them from a site called MC Car as they were automotive parts (only like $1.00 for a hundred) and so I got various sizes and hardness.
I had a loud keyboard and it made it so much more berable, and with the hardness being higher you can get dampening without it feeling too squishy.
You can get used to the squshy feeling, but its just really not idea for a mechanical keyboard IMO, as that is like a membrane keyboard and the very thing we are trying to get away from.
Also it turned my Cherry Reds into Cheery Silver basically, the faster key stroke (shorter distance) helped me in gaming and typing speed.
Keyboard enthusiast: NooOooooOoooo!!
Me: i like it and it’s my keyboard.
Thanks for sharing this video, definitely helped my decision. Gotta hear the sounds before making a call on these things.
Super helpful!!! Thank you!
i never was a big keybaord / switch fanatic , had corsair strafe since it came out... 2020 isomehow i found a pack of orings (same as yours) at my office and i placed them for fun... the typing is the same i think, but the sound is a lil bit les "high pitched"wich i like...
i recently got me a royal kludge K98 for 65euro on black friday... im very very pleased with this keyboard, even it is a company from china it is 10 times better than the Corsair strafe, the quality is aweseome, u cant bend the keyboad it feels very hard, also the stabilizers doesnt rattle at all.. overall the whole feel is more highquality! i just ordered some SA keycaps and some orings im excited to see how they will work out on this keyboard ...
Happy modding.
Really fascinating and practical thank you
Thanks, one person complains about the sound of my keyboard and it would also be good to not bother people in meetings if I forget to mute
Going through the same thing right now! I just moved into a new office and my next door office neighbor complains constantly about the sound of my keyboard. To be fair they have told me they have sensory issues. Will try these o-rings see if they help.
How is it going for you both
great vid man! thx!
i dont want my keyboard quiter I just dont really like the feel of the keycaps hitting plastic and not sure how to fix that
Nice video. Thanks
You’re very welcome!
Thank you very much good sir
Unfortunately not usable for an Apex Pro TKL using OmniSwitches 2.0 or Wooting keyboards. These o-rings limit the travel distance of the key and those switches that have variable actuation point or even double action setups depending on how hard the key is pressed, will not work the same or at all. Just keep this in mind.
I reely like them on space bars. Still, it's a really low cost solution to change the sound and feel of a keyboard!
have also some test o rings here .... i have NO difference ..... but i have kailh switches with the extra rim around the crossjoin
Are your switches linear? That's an important aspect of the test.
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@@SmoothieEngineer Thanks!
Do half first try it out compared to the other half for awhile and see how it goes
I'm waiting for another pack of orings, but now I have some keys with one, oners with two and some with three Orings. I have see that some keys only hangs well two Orings, but there are others that can have three. I plan to put three Orings on all the keys tha can handle it and two on the rest.
I carry my mechanical keyboard to work, so I want it to bee the most quite I can...also is a matter of taste, I prefer it to be more silent too. I'm new in this world of mechanical keyboards, and buy one for curiosity of how it feels compared with a membrane one, the ability to switch the keys to personalice it, that I read they are faster than membrane ones, and that my office keyboard was always dusty due to it's design. Two or three months ago on my office was a tendency with keyboards an my companions received some mechanical keyboards they bought online. So I decided to buy one...and now I love it, wish it could be as quiet as a membrane one, but it feels better (is an optical keyboard with yellow switches, I supose that's the reason some keys can handle three orings xD), and my companions were suprised It was quiet.
Putting a smaller o'ring in the stem pole might be more effective
what kind of switch is on this keyboard?
Do these things work for deathstalker v2 pro ? since it's low profile
i used o rings and they made my keyboard sound thockier.
im working on an leverless arcade controller, i use red mx switches, i built it specifically for normal sized mx switches, because i can't find kailh choc switches here. does o-rings help with faster inputs? like i want have that feeling my switch inputs faster, like low profile switches.
Late reply, but I tried this using akko silver v3s and while it does not affect the actuation point, it does reduce total travel. It feels like it barely goes down, touchscreen-esque feel, took a while to get used to it but I like how it feels on the movement buttons. Probably placebo but it feels like my left ring finger gets less tired
@@Cyliano If it reduces travel, then it makes sense for it to be easier on the fingers, since the keys will be pushing against them with less force.
What size do you use?
good ass video thank you so much
damn!!! double is the way
i am using paper to silence my rhythm game keys right now, help
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Conclusion: O-Rings help too little in noise reduction. BTW, thanks for posting this review.
Better to use a single thick” o-ring then doubling up small ones. Also quality matters, just like key switches..cheapo o-rings don’t sound half as good a quality o-ring..
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when you put rubber o rings on your keyboard, your putting membrane into your keyboard. The o rings make the switch mushy, and that's what they use on membranes.
Not true. The o-ring only stops the key from bottoming out in a loud clack. The entire travel through to the activation point and beyond, you dont feel anything from the rubber. It literally just cushions the bottom out. On a membrane kb the entire travel of the key is the mushy membrane.
@@noire1001 bro is proving a point i never said. I said that the rubber you use is apart of a membrane. Your putting membrane into your keyboard.
Actually, I am looking for "membrane". My Apple keyboard's small rubber cup is torn apart, so the key does not spring up. The broken rubber cup is too small and thin to attach using adhesive. So, I am wondering if I could put this O-ring. Is this O-ring thing springy as scissor switch keyboard's rubber cup?
I bought them of Aliexpress for 360 Pieces like 3 Dollars :)
O-Rings aren't really good for a mechanical keeb, it kinda makes it feel like it's membrane.
Agree with you
I could definitely see that with linear switches. I use o rings on my blues to keep them from bottoming out but I still get the click and bump.
Preference
I use o-ring for some of the keys that just make a heck ton of noise, and they don't feel too mushy. Probably because they're clicky swithces XD
I made silencing mod that has no mushiness but is just a dampened solid bottom out and its quite quiet
Is there Nutella on his face or a birth mark
is that cancer on your face?
Birth mark