Metallica's Most HATED Album
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- Metallica was on the brink of losing a good chunk of their fanbase with this one.
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Rolling Stone loved it. That is an indication of how much it sucked.
Yeah I had a subscription to RS at the time and it was an awful review.
Lmao for sure!!!
I always found it interesting that Newstead was never fully accepted as a member of Metallica, and yet he wasn’t allowed to do his own thing either. He was never going to be good enough for them.
You nailed it perfectly Max - and considering that Jason was a real up and comer when he got in the group, it seems like he was trying to make the most of what really was a bad situation. Finally he just realized that it wasn't going to improve. Good on him for getting out.
Funny enough, the bass players in Metallica (Burton, Newstead, Trujillo) are the only ones in that band that I truly appreciate.
And Justice For All... The last "real" Metallica album. And I will always die on that hill.
You mean fagot hill??
This album and the lulu albums are horrible. Thank god they made up for this with death magnetic onward.
Exactly, they kind of got back their stride after a while. ...man that sure took them a while
I love this album. Great riffs, great lyrics, great vocals, great drumming. Ohh, Sweet Ambeer. How sweet are you? How sweet can you get?!
P.S.: Metallica were right about Napster and Internet Piracy. It literally destroyed professional Metal careers of 21st century musicians.
P.S.2: Jason Newsted co-wrote the majority of the 1986 album "Doomsday for the Deceiver" when he was in Flotsam and Jetsam. It's an amazing Thrash Metal album. I honestly think Karma got to him for leaving his former band. He got money and fame in Metallica, but he lost freedom and self-respect. He wasn't cool to his bandmates from Flotsam. Not cool at all. And I think that band could have done even more awesome things, if he had remained. I like what they have done after, but they never captured that essence from "Doomsday".
I guess its Opposites Day again because not one thing you said is true. Thanks for the laugh though, I needed that.
That's like saying Nickleback is the greatest band next to Oasis. 😂
@@sole__doubt What is laughable is Metallica fans thinking that they know more about music than... Metallica. Because in practical terms, when you say St. Anger is "bad" you are putting yourself in a position in which you feel intitled to "JUDGE" Metallica as professional metal musicians. And THAT is laughagle. You are intitled to DISLIKE something. But that's just subjective taste.
@@HeathenDance "What is laughable is Metallica fans thinking that they know more about music than... Metallica"
They dont know more about music than the fans do.
"Because in practical terms, when you say St. Anger is "bad" you are putting yourself in a position in which you feel intitled to "JUDGE" Metallica as professional metal musicians."
Yeah I get that and I am entitled to judge anything I want. They are not better than anyone else.
"And THAT is laughagle. You are intitled to DISLIKE something. But that's just subjective taste."
Who are you to determine what anyone is entitled to judge?
@@HeathenDance Ooh this argument. Sick. So I hope you've never called a movie bad. Or a tv show. Or a meal. Or a car etc.or else you're a massive hypocrite
I still remember the appearances they did on Mtv to promote the album. It was certainly a dark time for the band to put it mildly. Its all good though they made 5 incredible albums that I still love to this day.
I liked it back in the day. It was the heaviest thing they'd done since AJFA & I didn't know it was "bad" production.
I stopped listening to it simply because it was not even in the same universe as the first 5 as far as song quality goes, that's it. Their best writing days ended at TBA and I realized I was perpetually hoping for a new album from a band that didn't exist anymore.
Very cool take thanks for sharing that! I agree, in a lot of ways they sort of became a shell of themselves writing-wise since
st anger was the reason i started learning guitar, especially frantic, that was the first song i ever learned on guitar, i love st anger back to front, it was just another metallica album just more raw and alternative to what tallica would usually do, idc what ppl think.
frantic, st anger, sweet amber are some amazing songs, even dirty window.
Cool way to get into the guitar!!
before the internet, me and my friends liked it and were kinda baffled when we found out that most people hate it. Honestly, the riffs and the intensity of this album make me revisit it ofte. Sure, it's not perfect. Some songs could be shorter, lyrics better, more highs in the guitar tone, more " produced" vocals...but I still think, it's a 7/10. The hated one should be Hardwired, their only album that offers nothing new or interesting
This album alone proves that
-they are not sellouts
- Metal fans rarely like unpolished, raw music, and much rather would listen to "Pop Metal" like Sabaton
no. all that is proved is your terrible taste. the album is GARBAGE
hardwired has 3 solid songs. it is a very disappointing release. 72 seasons is far better
To me it was just the lack of solos - I really love Kirk's playing. He's gotten a lot of flack over the years for his use of the wah etc, but a song just does not complete without a Kirk solo in their catalog
@@guitarmeetsscience the live versions all have solos, but I have to say that I don'T think that the songs needed them. They live solos feel like they are there just to please Kirk, not to serve the song
I was gonna like this comment but then you threw that shade at my boys in Sabaton!
...but yeah, the last few Sabaton albums have been produced slicker than a Yes album. Makes me miss the original lineup a ton.
How I knew already what album it is when I seen the title xD xD xD
I knew from the trash can drums. What other album could it be? Lol
🤣🤣 nailed it Emp!! 🤘🤘
I think I only heard Jason’s bass in that One breakdown before “darkness imprisoning me…”
That’s not just Jason that’s the double kick pedal working with him on the E downstroke.
The thing is that this album plays to all of Metallica’s weaknesses (songs are too long, album is too long, lyrics are quite mediocre and broadly sketched, Hetfield’s voice while good is quite inflexible)-with none of the strengths of Metallica’s best work (chiefly the really strong guitar work, the application of an almost jam band-like songwriting approach to metal, the power of Hetfield’s mid-high belts, etc)…really the problems with this album go far deeper than just the snare drum…
This is true - they really lost their essence. I applaud them for swinging for the fences and trying something entirely new for the time, but man I was missing Kirk's solos. That to me really sealed the deal in terms of not liking the album.
If your bass player quit, your drummer sued Napster, internet piracy was invented, your singer goes to rehab for months leaving 2 members sitting in a room, you won't create the best album and some fans would hate it too. Music is therapy, this band needed to write it.
All good points man!
I would say that all those albums Metallica made were extremely important for keeping existing as a band.I consider being that an advancement not a downturn situation in their career like most of fans have understood that.If they did make those albums it was likely for giving priority on themselves condition in music industry,then in constantly transition.
So perhaps Metallica were pushed against the wall,strongly forced by industry to self-immolated themselves and sacrife their lives in the name of surviving in a kind of music business purgatory.There was options for Metallica to get away with from there:the smart choice was to make those albums for running away the doom.Otherwise,they got flee from the skilled to move into the fire.
Frantic tic tic tic tic toc, I like the aggression of this ablum and the riffs are cool but the sound quality is horrible, Lars snare 💀. Thank you for more Metallica !🤘🤘🤘
🤘🤘 100% agreed - and they basically silenced Kirk! I never could get over that
People who hate this album REALLY hate it, and people who love this album REALLY love it. But I've yet to meet anyone completely indifferent to it.
I want to like it. There’s definitely some uncut gems in there. But god it’s so rough
That raw guitar tone and occasional bell brass snare worked fine on ZZ Top's Rhythmeen album, but not so much for Metallica. If St.A is such a blemish in their catalog, there's always the option of deleting it and throwing the masters on the BBQ.
It's a shitty album. But I can understand what the band was going through during the recording of the album.
Check out Metallica's documentary Some Kind of Monster.
I know the lack of bass is something people criticize about Justice but I think it gives it clear, crisp and cold sound. Everyone says their favorite is Puppets but for me it's Justice. I just love the way the guitars sound on it. It was my introduction to"real" metal and it kinda defined what the genre should sound like to me. Plus I enjoy the long, complexity of the songs. I was 12 when The Black album came out and had the rest of their catalog up until that point. That was the last Metallica album I ever bought and if I knew that's what it was gonna sound like I wouldn't have bothered. Again I know it's iconic but I don't agree with most people who say it's a great album. I think it's pretty terrible actually. I do love Wherever I May Roam but you can keep the rest of it
I agree thoroughly - it made the album sound much more dark and evil. It's Metallica's heaviest album.... I think they thought this one was going to be - but it felt very short of the mark. I seriously think they should have just gone back in sat down and cranked up their first three albums before even starting recording. The album would have come out so much better
Everything after Justice sucks.
I am from that camp as well
I was really young during the Napster era but if everyone could just download for free than every artist of any genre would never make another album again….people are so selfish. I love Metallica and I would’ve gladly paid my hard earned money to support their work (first 5 records)
I like the way you approach that matter. It's true, supporting the artist goes a long way. A lot of people during that time realized that a lot of the artists - really especially the smaller time artists were not making much at all from album sales. That's because the labels have fashioned their deals in such a way that they take the lions share of the money and just give a tiny tiny fraction to the artist. It still happening with streaming as well. So then of course people realized hey - we will go ahead and support them by attending the live shows. And that worked for a time until 360 deals came around, where everything - from merch, tickets, you name it all got into the hands of middlemen again screwing the artist on that front as well. It's a real shame how the industry works these days, but the artists are still out there kicking butt. And it's great that folks like you are giving them support, that's what keeps it going.
When Cliff died, Metallica died.
To this day, I've never even listened to this album.
It's definitely not their top that's for sure in my opinion anyway. Some people kind of like it, though I think they actually work hard to like it.
For me the black album is my most hated. I lost interest so much after the black album that i just wasn't interested in what they did after. They did worse after but i didn't care at that point.
A lot of people hate that one too - that's really where Metallica took a turn musically. Never really came back from that either.
Hey Jim!!!!!! Glad you’re still posting videos; hope you’re doing well!!!!
Thanks Marc! Still kicking them out haha. Good to hear from you man!!
Just Awful. This is what happens when you're already emotionally immature and then become dirty dirty rich, surrounded by yes men, insular management/minders, lawyers and sub human industry goons, completely detached from any vague measure of actual humanity. Yep, just Awful.
That revolutionary speech is very fancy, (aren't they always), but the vast majority of metal fans don't spend a single dime in music, if they can get it for free. I'm 40 years old, and I witnessed the transition to Internet piracy. Up until 2008, I knew people who literally had tons of complete discographies, downloaded illegally, and wouldn't buy an album in years.
That album gave them an extra 20 years.
Haha yep
Not good for them.
$$$😢
Hated it when it came out, but as the year have gone by I have come to appreciate it
Dude that snare was horrible. Only listened to the st anger song, jeeeeeezus!!
Krrrrang
Almost as horrible as " I am the Table" 😆
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St Anger is a really good album if you know how to navigate through it. It does sound harsh, but the songs kick ass!
Enter Sandman sucked!
Most successful metal single of all time.
Bobbbbbbb rock lame O ruined them.
Lars moment
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Load... Reload ... St Anger...
By this point I was over Metallica!! They had become everything they promised not to be...and the world noticed!!!
I've always called this album St Trash Can
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the thumbnail is scary as fuck
Lmao thank you! 🤣
@@guitarmeetsscience yw!
Love it, one of my Metallica favorites. I ve listened to first 4-5 albums million gazillion billion times in my life, I don’t want ever to hear MoP, NoM, Sandman, One, creeping death etc in my life, can’t imagine how bored they are of playing same songs every other night for 30+ years. St Anger is definitely different and totally not standard Metallica, but I like it.
It is definitely a departure - and it has definitely split some opinions for sure. I like seeing all of them in here. Thank you for sharing your take!
Idk man… there’s something about this album that makes me love it. You can highlight all the downsides of it, and it’s true, but I love it. Way more than load/reload and anything that came afterwards.
It’s almost like I can feel all that anger and the anguish they’re thru, in that sense the St. Anger is a brutally honest album
That is a very interesting take on the album. I am seeing a lot of people like yourself who it really resonated with. And there was a lot I like about the album too, but man I don't know I just have a hard time with the fact that they basically silenced Kirk. He seemed on board with it but I don't know I think it would have been cool too have heard him expressing himself over those songs as well. They swung for the fences I give them props for that.
Just discovered your channel in the last few days, really enjoy the videos! I'd love to see one on the Death Magnetic era, was always an interesting album to me.
Thank you so much! I definitely plan to do more exploration of Metallica - so many interesting things happened with that band, and considering that they came up basically from being dirt poor, there is a lot of depth to their story. That era is definitely on my bucket list. Thank you so much man I appreciate it!
@@guitarmeetsscience yeah, I‘m actually surprised there hasn’t been a biopic yet. You earned a new subscriber, even as a metallica fan for years and years you always dig up stuff I never knew before. Keep up the great work!
@MikaAlva-fr8rf that truly is a huge compliment - and I appreciate you joining the family. Really glad to have you here and I'm really glad you are enjoying this stuff. That makes my day man!! 🙏
Oscar the Grouch drums make this unlistenable.
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Load and reload is my most hated Metallica albums.
I was born in 1990 and I love Hard Rock & Heavy Metal music and my least favorite albums are the Load albums and St. Anger
I personally think the album got good once we got to the song "That was Just Your Life."
I love this album and the lyrics and raw energy get me through the toughest days like it did for the band💪🏼
That is awesome that it resonated with you! I like the album too Don't get me wrong even though I covered it and really reflected on the backlash from the fans. But man I certainly wish they would have given Kirk some solo time. To me that's part of the Metallica experience.
@@guitarmeetsscience They played a few St Anger songs live in 2017 and Kirk played a solo, maybe you've watched it but it was cool
@larsqaqqaq9970 oh yeah - I saw them about a year and a half ago. They were better than the two times I saw them in the '90s, and the St anger tunes they did were slamming. It was good to hear them hopped up with solos and everything. It would be interesting if they did a reworking of that album.
If this album had Rob doing slap bass that would be killer
That would've been cool
I thought this was going to be about Load. 😂
🤣🤣🤣 lol The competition is tight there for sure. I probably should have put arguably in the title lol
St anger was a great album. But a terrible Metallica album.
Honestly the album has aged like fine wine.
Yep!!!
Idk not my fav, but it's good when your in a mood. I like that album.
A dumpster rolling down a hill!🤣😂🤣
🤘🤣🤘 lmao nailed it!
Can't believe Metallica released a nu-metal album.
Pretty much!!!
Don't forget justice for all. This is so bad produced
I love that album though! The lack of bass made it seem heavier to me
they became sellouts as soon as that shite black album was conceived
This album is just unlistenable. Everything about it is just terrible, the tone is horrible, James voice is worse than anything Mustaine ever did and the songs are really, really bad. I liked the Load stuff (I was 16 when those came out) but this was just too far out. I never came back to Metallica after this album, still never heard Death Magnetic or anything else after this abomination. This really kinda ruined Metallica for me altogether, I very rarely listen to anything from them now.
The production quality really is one of the worst ever. I have heard many "poor" sounding albums from other bands and low budget demos, but St. Anger has no redeeming qualities. Its dull, compressed and boring...unlistenable indeed. Load/Reload had arguably the best production quality of their entire career, the drop in quality between albums is incredible.
Well said! I haven't been a fan since Cliff died. Metallica has just sounded like a cover band for the last twenty years.
The vocals and lyrics were overshadowed by the drums sound, but they were awful.
For fuck’s sake, grow up. 😂 I’ll never understand why people are still so fixated on this album 20 years later. Just let it go.
I don’t understand how after 20 years how you don’t understand what the point of that album was…smh the entire point of that album which it clearly states in the title Saint anger. The point of it was to get all of their anger out because newsted had just left the band, and James were struggling with addiction and Kirk and Lars were struggling with divorce.
Reload.
Альбом st.Anger не поняли только тупицы застрявшие во вчерашнем дне 😁. Очень крутой 👍 альбом его можно смело поставить на одну полку с ... And Justice For All .
В st.Anger звучит всё великолепно, от гитар рычащих как крупный хищный зверь , который кружит вокруг , пытаясь напасть на тебя чтобы разорвать ,сожрать , распустить на кожаные ленточки , до ведущего барабана Ларса , по которому он лупит со всей мочи как по колоколу отгоняя от жертвы эту зверюгу 😁
МЕТАЛЛИКА НА ВСЕ ВРЕМЕНА 🤘🇷🇺
That is a great description for the album! It certainly angered a lot of people though lol
@@guitarmeetsscience Металлика всегда была хороша именно тем что постоянно менялась и внешне и в стиле исполнения , ведь с ней менялись и взрослели и мы, первые её фанаты . И поэтому мы стали адекватными и взрослыми людьми . Благодаря Металлика мы научились в остальном огромном мире не толкаться локтями в автобусе . Это не как некоторые которые по 40 лет играют одну и туже бунтарскую песню из 80 х , и фанаты у них такие же ... застрявшие на вечно в детстве😁
Absolutely right - metallica evolved and has constantly surprised the fan base. And they are still damn good live!
@@guitarmeetsscience МЕТАЛЛИКА НА ВСЕ ВРЕМЕНА БРАТ 🤘
Me-Tally-ca sucked.
My man.. you absolute legend✌️🤘👊
🤘😎🤘 ty brother
The songs are amazing but they sound like shit LOL try covering any single one of them and I guarantee you they will sound better in proper tuning. I personally love this album more than Load. Load was half excellent, half filler. Fight me.
More like Saint Suck @$$!
The trashcan snare was truly appropriate for the garbage that album was.
The only thing as terribly pointless as was Stanger is the "film" Some Kind of Monster. I am ashamed to say that I watched it. In my naivete, I actually thought that something was going to happen at some point.
Haha yeah man from one colossal mess up to another. Granted it was entertaining in its own weird way - but it was almost as if Metallica hit their own version of awkward teenage years.
Saint Anger was a dumpster fire! 🤢🤮