@@guitarmeetsscience "It's gotta loud. I want it to roar. I want it to blow everyone at the show right off of the floor" - Alice Cooper 1987. I remember reading an interview article with Alice regarding Appetite For Destruction and Alice said (paraphrasing): "Why didn't I write that album"!!!!!
I got the G n R Appitite for destruction and Run DMC Raising Hell tapes for Christmas with a boom box as some of my gifts when i was 8 in Christmas of 88. I gotta thank my parent's!
It is a great song Don't get me wrong - brings back a lot of great memories. Just for the time, it wasn't one of those that would really knock a lot of people on their butts. But it has certainly aged quite well.
Awesome thank you! I love inside stories of bands recording what would be pinnacle albums. The Aerosmith doc (about Pump recording) was awesome. You see a band in the 80s unsure of themselves and insecure and how they get through it through recording music. I would love to know stories of bands like Type O Bloody Kisses or Biohazard’s Kill or Be Killed a once in a lifetime heavy album about a NYC band changed after 9/11 and what it means. Thanks again! PS Also RUST IN PEACE backstory would be cool lol 🔥
@@guitarmeetsscience no thank you I’ll watch whatever you produce you have great content and I don’t want to be that “you should make a video on a topic of my choosing bc I like it so get to researching, writing, and editing and make it snappy mmkay” comments guy lol. I’ve been working as an editor in tv for years and there’s nothing more annoying than having someone standing over your shoulder with a stack of “committee notes” wanting to go frame by frame over your current cut. So thanks again for your hard work!
AFD is one of those albums that you can play from start to finish without skipping any songs. Can't say the same about anything they released afterwards.
Memories I remember me and my cousins having a discussion in either 89 or 90 about how g.n.r was going to be are generations rolling stones DAMND we're we wrong
Oh yeah man been there - watching it actually since it first launched when I was a little kid. I kept wondering though why there were playing Spandau ballet all the damn time lol
And yes you would be right - he was actually born with the last name Rose, then his mom remarried with the last name of Bailey so he went by that, but then somewhere must have realized that Rose sounded cooler so he went back with that.
@guitarmeetsscience @tommyapocalypse6096 Bailey was his step-dad's (whom he grew up believing was his real dad until he was about 16) last name. Axl was only about 3 when his mom married the guy and never knew his real dad existed until he was going through his mom's drawers one day and came across some insurance papers that stated who his father actually was and that Rose was his last name at birth. His step-dad was a very strict Pentecostal martinet who physically and psychologically abused Axl growing up. He would try to find out more about his real dad from his mom and other family members, but all he would get from them was that he was a sociopathic troublemaker who hurt his mom, shouldn't be spoken of and is most likely dead. Nonetheless, Axl had his last name changed back to Rose as he didn't wish to share the last name of the step-dad who abused him growing up.
I think I was 16 roughly when I got AFD for Christmas, along with a kickass Walkman that had a 7 band EQ... GnR were more inline to punk than they were to hair metal... The raw edge was amazing, and that album is one of the greatest rock and roll albums ever... Its too bad they self destruct over egos, money, and lawyers. They also became the very thing they hated when they made that first album.
I remember at one point in time it seamed like every so miny days youde hear a rumor about axle or one of the band dieing in an overdose or whatever and none of this crap was ever true but I know as a fan every time I heard such rumors they were believable
Oh yeah - I remember those rumors as well. Even then, we never bought the stories - but with Cobain when that happened, we definitely bought it for sure.
Dayummmmmm! Thank you for pointing that out - the similarity is uncanny! I'm starting to think the biggest hits were all lifted in some way shape or form. Unbelievable!
the lead singer of Australian crawl was asked about that. He said gnr probably ripped them off but they could hire better lawyers. He might win the case but have no money left. Btw Nirvana sole from Australian Crawl with smells like teen spirit. ‘Daughters of the northern coast’ sounds exactly like ‘Spirit’ and was released over a decade prior.
@@guitarmeetsscience saw them in Savannah ga. They opened for motley crue on their Girls album tour. We had no idea who guns was. But a few months later they were the biggest band on the radio.
Like John said about Ringo vs the old drummer. Matt Sorum was a better drummer, Steven Adler was better at being a GnR member. I liked Steven better. He had swing. Matt has no swing
Lmao.... That one's got me cracking up 🤣 funny thing is we share an audience, he always pops up on my "what else your audience watches". Maybe they like our voices lmao
Great video and yah gnr were not the same as some glam bands but really they were part of that scene there first tour was with motley crue and yes they did were make up anyway the album wasn't just selling slow it it was out a year and barely cracked 200 k and that was not good for a major label band of the 80s it was just enough for them to keep there contracts in fact it started selling so slow the president of griffin records was about to consider it a dead album and told the guys to start getting ready for there next they were about to stop all printing and promotion and there a and r guy same guy that signed crue begged the owner to use hus contracts to get it played on MTV who basically was told by there cable company they could not play junkie music so gnr was out because they looked like junkes anyway the owner of the record company was able to get welcome to the jungle played one time on Sunday at 3 am in the morning very worse video slot period and from that one time it got played MTV phones went crazy 1000s of calls to play the video again MTV actually contacted the record company and told them what happened said fuck the cable company because this band can really help MTV and heavy rotations started the album exploded and they actually helped MTV become one of the biggest channels in the world but they were super lucky there a and r guy believed in them there is a very good chance that guns wouldn't of a got so huge it's a huge possibility they would have ended up being a band like kicks that band that never sold but was super good it's a crazy story in my mind
Correct.....they were just another Motley Crue. We really don't need to rewrite history and make them something they were not. Lead singer with a huge ego? Check. Heroin, groupies, and degeneracy? Check. Catchy riffs and dark lyrics? Check. GnR was Motley 2.0. I'm glad to see someone else beside me remembers the 80s accurately.
Appetite for Destruction is one of the best albums ever made. after that it's all Axl "pretending" to be Elton John + a few covers. then it was all covers, then nothing. firing Steven Adler was the beginning of the end.
They were hair metal, they teased their hair, wore mascara, and were clones of Motley (Welcome to the Jungle is no different than Dr. Feelgood). Plus they wrote love ballads. They had 2 great albums.....then poof. Gone. I'm not saying they were on par with Warrant or something...they had catchy riffs and a grittier image and a lead singer with an outsized ego.....but Motley, Ozzy, VH, Quit Riot, etc. already paved the way in that regard. Let's not rewrite history. GnR has nothing in common with god-awful grunge as some want to lump them in with that as the anti-thesis of glam. No grunge guitarist could hold Slash's pick (nor any hair band of the 80s).
Hell yeah, borther. You can't see how big the balls are through jeans, but with spandex, it's all on show. That's what made hair metal so good. Gobless!
I hear what you're trying to say but for the record the first four recorded songs of their own where the studio versions of Lies..Then when they got signed and made their first video welcome to the jungle the studio of course had the video made like all the other glam of the day vids play Axel never liked his hair etc so that's the only real video like that.. God awful grunge?
Anyone who thinks guns n' roses were a hairband just doesn't get it. Sadly did not last for very long. Use your illusion was basically a goodbye tour. Just nobody knew
Every word in this is worth its weight in gold. Hats off to whomever scripted this excellent piece!
Thank you so much for that kind compliment! I really appreciate that so much!! 🙏
Keep doing what you do!@@guitarmeetsscience
TY brother 🤘🤘
@@guitarmeetsscience "It's gotta loud. I want it to roar. I want it to blow everyone at the show right off of the floor" - Alice Cooper 1987. I remember reading an interview article with Alice regarding Appetite For Destruction and Alice said (paraphrasing): "Why didn't I write that album"!!!!!
Hahaha very cool!!!
Man I just discovered this channel and am amazed it's eluded me for this long, great great videos brotha!
Thank you brother - I really appreciate it man 🤘🤘
I got the G n R Appitite for destruction and Run DMC Raising Hell tapes for Christmas with a boom box as some of my gifts when i was 8 in Christmas of 88. I gotta thank my parent's!
Hell yeah - and thinking about it they would still be awesome gifts today probably even more awesome!
Not all hair bands were bad just like not all grunge bands were good .
💯.. well Said .. 👍
Based.
You can count the “good” grunge bands on 1 hand. Maybe even 3 fingers.
NONE of the grunge bands were good would be a more correct way of putting it! 😁
That's a silly comment. I can say the same about any genre.
hard to surpass a masterpiece
It absolutely is a masterpiece for sure!
Think About You is underrated.
It is a great song Don't get me wrong - brings back a lot of great memories. Just for the time, it wasn't one of those that would really knock a lot of people on their butts. But it has certainly aged quite well.
My jam ❤
The first in All My Life to finally recognize
@@hi_is_this_clorox_bleach 👍🤘
@@guitarmeetsscienceI loved that song (and still do). But, you are correct, a lot of people probably skipped it.
Fun hearing your analysis/opinion, Jimmy! 🎶💖🎤🎸🔥🎵🤘🏼Cheers! \|/
Thank you Marc Great to hear from you brother!
I was there in 87 with Mr smith and Wesson Arkeen. what a crazy insane beautiful thing I witnessed. I was only 17 and watched it all unfold.
I can imagine!
Awesome thank you! I love inside stories of bands recording what would be pinnacle albums. The Aerosmith doc (about Pump recording) was awesome. You see a band in the 80s unsure of themselves and insecure and how they get through it through recording music. I would love to know stories of bands like Type O Bloody Kisses or Biohazard’s Kill or Be Killed a once in a lifetime heavy album about a NYC band changed after 9/11 and what it means. Thanks again!
PS Also RUST IN PEACE backstory would be cool lol 🔥
You've got some good ones there - thank you so much!
@@guitarmeetsscience no thank you I’ll watch whatever you produce you have great content and I don’t want to be that “you should make a video on a topic of my choosing bc I like it so get to researching, writing, and editing and make it snappy mmkay” comments guy lol. I’ve been working as an editor in tv for years and there’s nothing more annoying than having someone standing over your shoulder with a stack of “committee notes” wanting to go frame by frame over your current cut.
So thanks again for your hard work!
AFD is one of those albums that you can play from start to finish without skipping any songs. Can't say the same about anything they released afterwards.
back in the good old days you could make a mixed taped of about 12 great songs from both use your illusions albums
Good old days is right..Man i wish we could go back.@joeduffy3309
OH the debauchery...MANY THANKS!!!
Haha yes sir!!! Thanks Dave!! 🤘🤘
Memories I remember me and my cousins having a discussion in either 89 or 90 about how g.n.r was going to be are generations rolling stones DAMND we're we wrong
You should’ve seen MTV in 1987, man it was great, back when it ACTUALLY was music television, all the way through till 911, a moment in history.
Oh yeah man been there - watching it actually since it first launched when I was a little kid. I kept wondering though why there were playing Spandau ballet all the damn time lol
@@guitarmeetsscience Ha! Is it just me or does downtown Julie Brown not age?
Hahaha does not age at all!
Yes, the 70s & 80s
We're Awesome. Thanks
Philadelphia USA 🇺🇸
They definitely were. Philly rocks 🤘🤘
Guns and Roses lost their sound 35 years ago.
1990? Something do do with Adler and Stradin’ leaving?
Most certainly.
Too much Appetite…
If they got back together, I bet they could write something amazing again. I just know it.
The original cover tried to do shock value for no reason other than Axel rose thinking that the painting from Robert williams is cool
Interesting point - I can see that
The five IZZY AXL SLASH DUFF AND STEVE ARE THE BEST BAND EVER. AFTER 91 IZZY LEFT NOPE MAGIC IS GONE
I thought Rose's real last name was Bailey. I remember reading that somewhere.
And yes you would be right - he was actually born with the last name Rose, then his mom remarried with the last name of Bailey so he went by that, but then somewhere must have realized that Rose sounded cooler so he went back with that.
@@guitarmeetsscience Thank you - I was not aware of that.
@guitarmeetsscience @tommyapocalypse6096 Bailey was his step-dad's (whom he grew up believing was his real dad until he was about 16) last name. Axl was only about 3 when his mom married the guy and never knew his real dad existed until he was going through his mom's drawers one day and came across some insurance papers that stated who his father actually was and that Rose was his last name at birth. His step-dad was a very strict Pentecostal martinet who physically and psychologically abused Axl growing up. He would try to find out more about his real dad from his mom and other family members, but all he would get from them was that he was a sociopathic troublemaker who hurt his mom, shouldn't be spoken of and is most likely dead. Nonetheless, Axl had his last name changed back to Rose as he didn't wish to share the last name of the step-dad who abused him growing up.
I think I was 16 roughly when I got AFD for Christmas, along with a kickass Walkman that had a 7 band EQ... GnR were more inline to punk than they were to hair metal... The raw edge was amazing, and that album is one of the greatest rock and roll albums ever... Its too bad they self destruct over egos, money, and lawyers. They also became the very thing they hated when they made that first album.
Just like anything else - they burned too hot too soon
Jamie from JRE, is that you?
How did you ever guess? shhh Don't let people know or they will flood my channel 🤣
@@guitarmeetsscience Let’s hope they do. Fantastic video on my favourite band when I was growing up - thank you!
Haha right on - thank you man I'm really glad you liked it! Your comment had me cracking up - and after the day I had I needed that 🤘🤘
I remember at one point in time it seamed like every so miny days youde hear a rumor about axle or one of the band dieing in an overdose or whatever and none of this crap was ever true but I know as a fan every time I heard such rumors they were believable
Oh yeah - I remember those rumors as well. Even then, we never bought the stories - but with Cobain when that happened, we definitely bought it for sure.
I lost my virginity listening to the Appetite cassette on auto reverse. Good times!
Haha right on!!! 🤣
Sweet Child o mine, minus the lead guitar melody, is a complete lift of a song called “Unpublished Critics” by a band called Australian Crawl.
Dayummmmmm! Thank you for pointing that out - the similarity is uncanny! I'm starting to think the biggest hits were all lifted in some way shape or form. Unbelievable!
the lead singer of Australian crawl was asked about that. He said gnr probably ripped them off but they could hire better lawyers. He might win the case but have no money left. Btw Nirvana sole from Australian Crawl with smells like teen spirit. ‘Daughters of the northern coast’ sounds exactly like ‘Spirit’ and was released over a decade prior.
Saw them a few months before their first MTV music video came out. One of my favorite albums of all time
It must have been pretty damn cool to see them in those young and hungry days before they even broke big.
@@guitarmeetsscience saw them in Savannah ga. They opened for motley crue on their Girls album tour. We had no idea who guns was. But a few months later they were the biggest band on the radio.
@@stargazer4625you saw them twice before knowing who they were? Nice.😂
@@EjSinner13 😂
Like John said about Ringo vs the old drummer. Matt Sorum was a better drummer, Steven Adler was better at being a GnR member. I liked Steven better. He had swing. Matt has no swing
Steven just had the vibe. Like MA in van Halen
Is this Trogly narrating?😂
Lmao.... That one's got me cracking up 🤣 funny thing is we share an audience, he always pops up on my "what else your audience watches". Maybe they like our voices lmao
Great video and yah gnr were not the same as some glam bands but really they were part of that scene there first tour was with motley crue and yes they did were make up anyway the album wasn't just selling slow it it was out a year and barely cracked 200 k and that was not good for a major label band of the 80s it was just enough for them to keep there contracts in fact it started selling so slow the president of griffin records was about to consider it a dead album and told the guys to start getting ready for there next they were about to stop all printing and promotion and there a and r guy same guy that signed crue begged the owner to use hus contracts to get it played on MTV who basically was told by there cable company they could not play junkie music so gnr was out because they looked like junkes anyway the owner of the record company was able to get welcome to the jungle played one time on Sunday at 3 am in the morning very worse video slot period and from that one time it got played MTV phones went crazy 1000s of calls to play the video again MTV actually contacted the record company and told them what happened said fuck the cable company because this band can really help MTV and heavy rotations started the album exploded and they actually helped MTV become one of the biggest channels in the world but they were super lucky there a and r guy believed in them there is a very good chance that guns wouldn't of a got so huge it's a huge possibility they would have ended up being a band like kicks that band that never sold but was super good it's a crazy story in my mind
Correct.....they were just another Motley Crue. We really don't need to rewrite history and make them something they were not. Lead singer with a huge ego? Check. Heroin, groupies, and degeneracy? Check. Catchy riffs and dark lyrics? Check.
GnR was Motley 2.0.
I'm glad to see someone else beside me remembers the 80s accurately.
Thank you! A lot of crazy stuff went down then!
Appetite for Destruction is one of the best albums ever made.
after that it's all Axl "pretending" to be Elton John + a few covers. then it was all covers, then nothing.
firing Steven Adler was the beginning of the end.
Apple Pie For Destruction
@@unknownkingdom 🤣
They were hair metal, they teased their hair, wore mascara, and were clones of Motley (Welcome to the Jungle is no different than Dr. Feelgood). Plus they wrote love ballads. They had 2 great albums.....then poof. Gone. I'm not saying they were on par with Warrant or something...they had catchy riffs and a grittier image and a lead singer with an outsized ego.....but Motley, Ozzy, VH, Quit Riot, etc. already paved the way in that regard. Let's not rewrite history. GnR has nothing in common with god-awful grunge as some want to lump them in with that as the anti-thesis of glam. No grunge guitarist could hold Slash's pick (nor any hair band of the 80s).
Hell yeah, borther. You can't see how big the balls are through jeans, but with spandex, it's all on show. That's what made hair metal so good. Gobless!
Just another phase in the social engineering program. Unfortunately
I hear what you're trying to say but for the record the first four recorded songs of their own where the studio versions of Lies..Then when they got signed and made their first video welcome to the jungle the studio of course had the video made like all the other glam of the day vids play Axel never liked his hair etc so that's the only real video like that.. God awful grunge?
Welcome to the Jungle was 2 years before Dr Feelgood
There was nothing metal about guns n' roses at all that was hard rock kids shut up if you don't know what you're talking about
Most overrated band in the history of Rock n roll, by far & away
Dont think so
Anyone who thinks guns n' roses were a hairband just doesn't get it.
Sadly did not last for very long.
Use your illusion was basically a goodbye tour.
Just nobody knew
Absolutely spot on!