As a DC fan, this just breaks my heart. Hope they get back on track eventually, because there are so many awesome characters that could make for fun films...Nightwing, Plastic Man, Spectre, etc.
It’s actually impressive how much of a disaster WB made this universe even with movies like Shazam and Wonder Woman but it’s not even funny to laugh at, with the potential of this universe with the great actors like Cavill, it’s just a tragedy
I really do feel bad for Cavill. He really wanted to do an optimistic Superman and I feel he would’ve done a fantastic job. I hope they can at least bring him back for some kind of multiverse movie.
Honestly Zack Snyder should have just stuck with his original idea (as well as listening to some fan demands) to making a Superman film saga so we can see him transition from being an unsure, flawed, and inexperienced hero trying to learn from mistakes to becoming the embodiment of hope we so desperately need. No cameos, no cheap references, no multiverse, and certainly no Justice League because I want this to be about Superman and only Superman, his supporting cast and character development so this would we can put his character arc to rest; But instead we got a failed cinematic universe sorely need of a reboot.
Am I the only who’s GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF MULTIVERSES?!?! EVERYBODY wants to make multiverses, now-EVEN SPONGEBOB! Can we just please take a break from that now? Hollywood is lucky I’m not a dictator or else I’ll force them to cut that out-OR ELSE!
@@DeadlyAlienInvader Honestly you are not alone I too am getting tired of this multiverse crap. I feel like that they're doing this is because they got nothing interesting to do with so they're trying to like pump everyone up for needless crossovers just to make things interesting. It gets worse whenever there are different TV shows that have similar animations people are going to make posts saying that they're in the same universe just to sound smart.
@@leoorduna2199 i don't believe snyder had any plan to bring in a more hopeful superman. HIs plan was to make a superman go evil and kill wonder woman and aquaman and batman kill himself.
@@chunklightmedia5792 Can't say it was ended by the D-She-U because it was destroyed by the fandom menace. At least Marvel is more successful at garnering diverse audiences
Don't be stupid and ignorant. The Snyderverse is fantastic. The problem always was the WB shills who boycotted and sabotaged their own projects. #SellZSJLtoNetflix
@@kitgo596 No, it was clearly NOT "okay at best"; that's pure ignorance. And if you think that Snyder movies were not faithul to the source material, then you clearly haven't read enough comic books. You need to educate yourself. #SellZSJLtoNetflix
Im still genuienly upset that ezra has gotten 0 consequences for his proven actions when johnny depp got dropped from literally everything for what has been proven to be false
Come on this shouldn’t be mental gymnastics. He’s actively in a movie. If they let him go it will make for media mess. He’s for sure being dropped after the movie
The problem was WB panicked when a few movies didn't do exactly what they expected, they then interfered on movies & rushed movies out, in their panic they changed the slate, cancelled some, if they would've stuck to the plan, let the writers n directors do their thing I think it would've been a different story, some highs some lows but would've built into something really good, by now it would've probably been done n now they could've done what their doing now
The problem was they tried to make quick cash off of their DC comics without thinking it through and hiring creatives suited to the job. Instead they hired Zack Snyder to helm an entire cinematic universe when he has exhibited little to no storytelling aptitude.
It’s unfortunate we won’t see Zach Snyder’s master plan with this franchise. There was a lot left in the air but we’ll see what the flash does and the rest of Gunn’s dc slate.
EXACTLY. Been saying this for so long. The fact that they thought they’d make a billion per movie right out the gate is baffling. Especially considering the general populations still thought Christian Bale was Batman. MoS was a great start. BvS damn near hit a billion and arguably would have if they released the extended cut. And JL would have been a hit (Zacks version). Not to mention we would have had Nightwing, JL 2 coming, Deathstroke etc. Oh well.
A perfectly edited, 37 minute autopsy. Just summed up everything I've hated over the last 10 years. This franchise was gift wrapped for success, yet failure seemed to be the only option.
From an outsider’s perspective - it’s so weird that it’s supposedly all about money, but the people in charge of the choices seem to make the wrong choices each time??? I’m so confused haha, why can’t we just make movies that are good? Good movies make money, no matter what.
Because they weren’t trying to make good movies they were just hoping that the name of the characters & the fact that they were bootleg MCU movies were enough to earn them money. But they forgot the reason Marvel was successful with the MCU is because they knew they had to make good movies to kick off their franchise to get people to keep coming back & every movie left enough ground work for another director to work off of. Like the Russo brothers making that hype Captain America Mjolnir moment in Endgame due to Joss Whedon leaving a door open for them in Age Of Ultron where it was shown that he could lift the hammer he just didn’t so he wouldn’t hurt Thors ego. Having Snyder who is very strict on his vision & wouldn’t compromise with the studio was a horrible idea from the start because it made it extremely difficult for other directors who wanted to make more light hearted stories because it would feel like tone whiplash to the audience due to how MOS & BvS kicked things off & established that this wasn’t going to be a world where we could get a mix of dark & fun stories. And some leading to plot holes like WW1984 where the events of that movie were for some reason not brought up in MOS where Superman’s reveal was treated as the first supernatural incident the world has seen or Batman not knowing about her till 2016 despite being the worlds greatest detective & researching a ton about the world.
This video was great, I appreciate you guys going over every single detail with each project and such. I was unfortunately one of the kids who grew up with these movies and was super bummed out not seeing a proper continuation after JLP1. Now becoming an adult, I now get to see a more proper DC cinematic universe!
I remember having apprehensions when Zack Snyder was hired to direct Man of Steel because I didn’t care for 300. But I wanted to believe. Then I had more reservations when the sequel was announced to be about Batman fighting Superman, because that shit is never made to make Superman look good. But I wanted so hard to believe. I wanted so hard to have a DC cinematic universe even justifying that awful Martha moment. I eventually admitted to myself that I did not like Snyder’s vision. I’m very excited to see what James Gunn will be doing
The fact is Snyder was going for an injustice storyline and bvs wasn't supposed to be 2nd movie. It was supposed to come after man of steel 2 and solo batman movie. That would've added lot of context to the bvs plot rather than just being a movie where justice league members are introduced. You have a problem with Snyder apparently or his movies aren't to ur taste and that's ok. But It isn't Zack Snyder fault the dceu flopped. Cos if it was then Zacks version of justice league wudve flopped too but it was a massive hit. James Gunn has made good movies but his suicide squad was nothing special. And guardians of the galaxy vol 2 wad enjoyable but gog 1 was mediocre at best. Time will tell if this DC stuff will work. Still a what if lingers on..
@@AvinashElsa most people who watched Zack Snyder’s cut were already fans of Zack Snyder, so there’s a lot of confirmation bias. As someone whose favorite superhero is Superman, I’m so glad his Injustice plans failed.
@paulieboy6644 well not really since, it was a massive hit. Now if only Snyder fans enjoyed the movie, then I'd say 80 to 90 of dceu fans are Snyder fans then. So you can't really say it's confirmation bias. Now personally I don't understand the criticism people have on man of steel tbh. Like what is wrong? It's a movie where he learns to be what he is. Did that cause destruction, well absolutely since aliens are fighting. Or is it superman killing zod because it's not the first time done on film. Or is it the color tone, not enough light? Or sad realistic story? I mean superman fans should love the movie it makes a young noob superman look very very good. Who knows to each their own I guess.
@@AvinashElsa the “Massive success” of ZSJL was destroyed by Godzilla vs Kong in streaming numbers. Of course WB is going to claim it was a “massive success”. Quite literally the only people who cared about this movie at all were Snyder’s fans.
I'll never forget the theater experience cor BvS. Everyone was dead silent throughout and at the end one person started clapping and no one joined them. They slowly stopped when realizing this.
BvS was a fascinating disaster, in that killing Superman should be the sort of auspicious cinematic moment you can only do once. And yet I felt nothing and the whole theater had no apparent emotional response. No gasp, no sob, no “oh no!”, no applause. Nothing.
“Fired” doesn’t necessarily mean contractually. Before the James Gunn shakeup, Dwayne Johnson was meant to be a creative pillar of sorts for the DCEU. In it, he wanted Cavill’s Superman, Levi’s Shazam and possibly both current versions of Batman running around. Remember, this was before Gunn became attached. What happened between Johnson and Gunn once the shakeup happened can only be left up to interpretation.
Don't be stupid and ignorant. Henry Cavill was 100% FIRED. WB is CANCER. They boycotted and sabotaged their own projects. That's why all of them were FIRED and now the company is 50 BILLIONS in debt. Cavill, Snyder and the fans were SCREWED by WB. #SellZSJLtoNetflix #BoycottWBD
@@NobleRaider2747 Yeah in hindsight, it’s hilarious I gave DJ the benefit of the doubt given everything we know now 🤣. In his defense though, he saw an opportunity and took it. The DCEU never stood a chance with the general public outside of a niche group of people who love Zack Snyder. If James Gunn was never offered the position he has now, who knows. Maybe a DC franchised centered around Black Adam and Superman wasn’t that bad of an idea given all the failures of the DCEU.
@Jay Guero indeed, he saw that the fans wanted Henry Cavill back, and decided to take that opportunity, effectively trying to use Henry's Superman as a pawn (or Trojan horse?) to get the fans' favor As we all know, this failed, badly
There is NO way they will keep Miller, they just don't want to draw too much attention to his legal issues before the movie comes out. They'll drop him like a sack of potatoes as soon as The Flash comes out. Probably replace him via post credit scene.
I am absolutely glad that the trashfire that was the DCEU is dead and being replaced. Maybe the new one will be better, maybe the same level of shit, maybe worse, but at least it's a new attempt. The DCEU was doomed from the start with that edgelord Snyder in charge of a fucking Superman movie. I just feel for Henry Cavill. He seems like a good, passionate guy that really understands the characters and worlds he's acting in from the Witcher to DC to Warhammer (maybe) and I don't say that lightly. A lot of actors claim to be big fans of Star Wars or Marvel or DC or whatever, but I've seen plenty of times where Cavill is clearly passionate and knowledgeable. I respect that. I'm sorry he didn't get to play the Superman he deserved. In another life maybe he did.
Don't really see The Suicide Squad as a reboot. It doesn't contradict the first one and it's the Suicide Squad the roster would rotate. If anything it's more of a sequel that happens later.
This is the most beautifully made dcu videos I have ever seen, and you very little subs, hope more people recognize your video editing talents It is a real shame that this era of dc is over and wasn't handled well, hope they learn from their mistakes, doubt it, but hopefully this era can be concluded as an elseworld story one day, that would be cool
Very much appreciated man, thanks for the love! Yeah hopefully these characters won’t be forgotten and maybe some day we can see a proper conclusion or even a crossover.
WB execs were fed up of Snyder, because his movies weren't "profitable enough". Too bad for them though, the only movies that made any money were actually the ones where he (coincidentially) was either the writter, the producer or the director: * Man of Steel (direcor) - $ 688 MIL; * Batman v Superman (director) - $ 873.6 MIL; * Suicide Squad 2016 (producer) - $ 746.8 MIL; * Wonder Woman (writter) - $ 822.8 MIL; * Aquaman (producer) - $ 1.149 BIL; Not to mention, his version of Justice League (the one that was supposed to be "unwatchable") was way better received and broke many records throughout the world. The executives at WB are the only ones to blame for this mess. The guy may not be a genius (as usually most people aren't), but they never figured why their expectations weren't fulfilled and threw him under the bus. Jokes on them, HA HA.
BvS was sabotaged by the WB shills. The film was censored and butchered. The WB shills forced Snyder to remove 30 minutes of footage for the theatrical release. And after that, they completely DESTROYED Justice League with the aid of the abuser Joss Whedon. That's why all the WB execs were FIRED and now the company is 50 BILLIONS in debt. BvS: Ultimate Edition and ZSKL are some of the best comic book movies ever made. #SellZSJLtoNetflix #BoycottWBD
I'm not gonna lie, I did smile a bit when I heard John Williams's 'Superman' theme as Cavill entered in the 'Black Adam' post credit scene. Hopefully he gets a second chance in a multiverse movie (like 'Crisis on Infinite Earths' or another story involving the DC multiverse) like how Andrew Garfield got a second chance as Spiderman in 'Spider-Man: No Way Home'.
Hope he plays Sentry, or Hyperion, or Gladiator in the MCU, lampshade included. "Wasn't your first choice, was it?" "Well, I tried _Superman_ first, but..." (knowing smile) "It didn't work out."
I do, tell me he did a good job, because he did! Let’s be honest, we’ve had the tighty wighty Here I come to save the Day Up Up and Away version of Superman since the freaking 30’s! We needed something different but not too far off the path. We know the basics, Kypton destroyed, vulnerable to Kryptonite and 🪄, indestructible and all around “that guy!” Yet, many people related to this Supes because he had real world problems that people as humans understand! Seeing that 😡 and wanted to let it all hang out but having the discipline to adhere to morale, people related and felt that full stop! Being laughed at, mocked and feared as if you don’t belong, people felt that! People didn’t like he broke the spell of the same old stale Superman! I do admit he tried to cram too much into BVS but WB was pushing him to do it
@@LanternEnergy Agree with this. Im quite young (2005) and didnt have much surface level origin knowledge of DC characters throughout my life until recently. I started watching ZSJL when it released and I liked it- made me intrigued to see what I really missed out on throughout the years- so I revisited the previous movies like Man of Steel & BvS through clips. This whole time I just assumed the Man of Steel movie would just be a good guy untouchable superman for 2 hours but I saw the court scene and it had me hooked. I personally don't mind Zack's take on any of these characters and I believe they could stand on their own. Sure BvS looked like they had some issues but I believe if the DCEU slate took its time it would've been pretty respectable. All things considered, I'm curious as to what the new justice league could look like in the future of the DCU
@@LanternEnergy Because Superman is inherently innocent, and he always saves the day with a boatload of hope for the people. Real-world problems? What are those? These apply to Spider-Man, not Superman. Go read comic books again. Superman isn't Marvel, Snyder made Supes a Marvel character.
Just to correct you at 9:30, I'm not sure you've heard about the Ultimate Edition (very solid film that could've prevented so much imo) of Batman v Superman, but WB interfered by making them cut 30 minutes, which effectively "dumbed it down" which can arguably be to blame for poor critical reception of the theatrical.
Which are probably the best thing that we have gotten as a result of the mess that has been the DCEU. I am partial to very angry and upset fan vids, who borderline in being delusional, but this one is a good one. A bit too hopeful at the end, for my taste, but it will do. 😅
Like the MCU I Witnessed the DCEU with a Few Ups and Many Unfortunate Downfalls and It’s All to 4 Things,WB letting DC Out of Control without Any Plans or Directions,Dwayne Johnson spending 15 Years on His Black Adam Project but Doesn’t Understand the Source Material,that the Character He Was Playing is a Shazam Villain that with his Fragile Ego didn’t want to Lose because of a Dumb Contract,and the One Thing that He and His Ex Wife did that’s Divided the Fan is that they Brought Henry Cavill Back as Superman,Not mainly for the Fans but to make Black Adam fight the Man of Steel instead of Shazam,Without understanding DC was in a Mess,Patty Jenkins is Another that wasn’t Loyal to the Wonder Woman Character than instead of being Faithful to the Lore She Picked New Paint Jobs of Characters that Tainted the Source Material,and Finally I was going to Pick Jared Leto and Margot Robbie but they aren’t the Problem on this Topic so the One that that Damage DC is Zach Snyder,Look I Love Man of Steel so much I still Rewatch it to this Day and he’ll I even Read the Novel and love His Action Cinematography that has this Anime Style,However his Vision in Movies is Questionable yeah He was Forced by WB to create a Universe instead of a Superman Trilogy,Yes I Understand why He Left on that Horrible Family Tragedy,and Yes I Respect and Believe He’s a Comic Book Fan at Heart however He’s doesn’t Know about Storytelling and Character Dialogues,especially when He’s the Reason why Ezra Miller was Hired on WB and DC to be the Flash without Checking His Background back in the Early 2010s he Did Things that were Signs to Red Flags that could have been Avoided,I Don’t Blame James Gunn,He’s True on His Word and He’s the Only Person I Trust on Adaptating Stories but do Major Changes that Doesn’t Work to make the Projects Work so in a Weird Way I’m Looking Forward to DC’s Future.
One of the only projects that I'm actually sad didn't come out was the deathstroke movie. 1 because he's a cool af character, and 2 because IT WAS GOING TO BE DIRECTED BY THE GUY WHO MADE THE RAID 1 AND 2 (2 of the best action/Kung fu movies ever made)
A Very-Much Justified (no pun intended) End to the Incredibly Strange and Insane Journey of the DCEU (Cue Barry Allen's tooth falling off at the end of the Flash movie) 🤣🤣🤣
I remember being so excited for Man of Steel and thought it was gonna be part of the Nolen and Green Lantern universe. Disappointed to learn that was not the case
The announcement of the SnyderCut did bring a lot of new suscribers. In fact, the Snydercut could be consider as the greatest thing that happened to HBOMAX for all the buzz that generated before release. Snyder's plan wasn't Man of Steel 2 and JL 2 The SnyderCut wasn't received with mixed reviews. IMdb literally put it just below The Dark Knight. And even RT gave it a good score. Yes, BVS was different from what the MCU was doing at the time, it's a shame that until now people is realizing that BVS was actually a good movie. And yes, A LOT of people is realizing that I'm not just saying it. To bad also that most people still look for Rotten Tomatoes rather than having their own opinion on a movie.
Agree with literally all of your takes especially about bvs. However it was clear WB due not market the Snyder cut well and wanted the film to not succeed
Excpet it didn't? There was a huge buzz before how barely 1/3rd of the viewers finished the movie in the 1st week; Not like the Irishman which was gauged by not being finished by 1/3rd of viewers in tge 1st day. TSS at a point became the most viewed DC Film; Mortal Kombat and Godzilla vs. Kong did even more numbers than TSS. Dune and even Space Jam was viewed more than ZSJL. ZSJL was prolly a test, to see how much number would actually be pulled from ZS's work; Because shortly after that, they canned the script for MOS 2 and gave Gunn Superman to write.
IMDb only rated it highly cause of Snyder fans bumping up the scores. 90% of people circle jerking BvS are just poeple talking about how the fight scenes are good and that’s it
Thank you, thank you. We tried our best to get as much info as we could. I appreciate the comments that are giving insight on information I might have missed.
There is always some slight studio interference in one way or another, but BvS and MoS were mostly left up to the hands of Snyder to do as he pleased. Once the reviews for BvS came out though that’s when WB decided they wanted to take more creative control
@@99GregPotter so what i've been hearing about a MoS 2 was a lie? wb exec's didn't want batman to be in the 2nd movie.... along with WW, Cyborg, Flash and Aquaman?
@@99GregPotter BvS was sabotaged by the WB shills. The film was censored and butchered. The WB shills forced Snyder to remove 30 minutes of footage for the theatrical release. And after that, they completely DESTROYED Justice League with the aid of the abuser Joss Whedon. That's why all the WB execs were FIRED and now the company is 50 BILLIONS in debt. BvS: Ultimate Edition is one of the best comic book movies ever made. Educate yourself. #SellZSJLtoNetflix #BoycottWBD
@Caliginous Moira no, Snyder wanted to make MOS 2 but WB wanted to play catch up with Marvel so they made him shoehorn all the justice league members in BvS.
Godzilla vs Kong destroyed the Snyder Cut's streaming numbers while having a theatrical release, so saying the latter was the only film people cared about at the time is quite disingenuous
What you’ve stated is an unfair assessment. Godzilla v Kong is a 1h 53m movie while Snydercut was 4 hours. You can show 2 Godzilla streams for every Snydercut you play. Yes, you’ll get more streams because the average network isn’t going to pay to have a 4hr movie sit in their ☁️ for 90 days. The demand isn’t going to be as high for a 4 hr movie even if it’s good due to attention spans. Lord of the Rings was last to do it and that day died long ago. Snydercut in 2021 did have the highest sells in blue rays and 📀’s. But I do agree that it wasn’t the only film people cared about at the time.
By people wanting DC to fail they inadvertently caused the downfall of marvel. If marvel had competition they'd step up their game. Marvel is lazy now. Since they don't have competition they don't have that fire under their ass to give them the drive.
Expecting to fail and wanting to failare two different things. I did not want DC to fail, i wanted them tod o good but over and over they kept making decitions that didnot help, and now neither company is doing so great right now
5:05 “…Man of Steel was released to mixed, but ‘mainly positive,’ reviews.” ME: actually most people didn’t like Man of Steel when it came out. I was there. I remember. People in the theater were really displeased with the overall tone and lack of fun.
Because some of these movies were awful, but still made enough money to keep the lights on. Even a film as lazy and terrible as Superman IV made back its budget. If a movie has Superman or Batman in it, *somebody* will pay to see it. Maybe not twice, but once, at least. Even so, Warner has a lot of media ventures, some of which did flop, which is how they racked up enough debt to get bought and sold by AT&T, and then by Discovery.
While i'm excited for the new DC Universe, there's no denying that the new universe is bascially trying to be the next Star Wars and Doctor Who since they told stories in all forms of media in the same continuity.
DCEU sucked from the beginning that's why Man of Steel was criticized by general audience same as BvS however ZSJL ended up as positive response by viewers because there is Josstice league to compare. Remember when BVS ended up like MOS WB involved because they losing continuity and they had no idea what is Zack is doing. Zack is not comic book fan. He made Superman like Harry Potter and Watchmen. Moreover won't kill people even if he is criminal but Ben's Batman kills people that really sucks. Secondly, Zack JL 2 was suppose to have Lois Lane and Bruce relationship. WHAT THE HELL??? we never read that in comics or we never seen that in cartoons. In bis third JL movie Bruce dies by fighting Darksied and Lois having kid and they naming him as Bruce Kent were he do not have powers like Superman. OVERALL ZACK SNYDER'S DCEU is full of confusion and mess and it is hard to communicate to general audience, there is no use of crying via social media to restore the snyderverse because it won't work due budget. If Black Adam ended up as Successful in Box office we would have Black Adam 2, Snyderverse, MOS 2 and so on nevertheless it ended up as flop even if there was Henry Cavill cameo therefore James Gunn came to board and rebooted the franchise for good, I FULLY agree with his plan and his vision he made GOTG trilogy great in addition he read comic books and bring them to life that's the brilliance of the director. Zack's making style may be unique still he lack comic book knowledge that's were Marvel won the game since 2008 first they gave everyone a solo then they brought everyone together as Avengers in 2012 which ended up as GOAT besides it earned 1.5 billion at the box office.
They could have done what Marvel did and just made a few individual films of the essential Justice League characters before making a Justice League film. Henry Cavil should have done Man of Steel 2, where Russell Crowe would return as Jor-El and guide him to help him to harness the powers he has, a standalone Batman film in the universe, a Wonder Woman film, a Flash film, a Aquaman film, a Green Lantern film and then finally a Justice League film, with the other characters having sequels of their own as long as the right people were on board to make them. There could be two films in a year in some instances, as we saw Marvel do that before the Avengers and so within 5 years there could have been a great set up for a Justice League film, rather than a big catch-up with Marvel and trying to put all the characters together in a film as fast as possible. It’s clear they wanted to beat Marvel at their own game, but rather than use what they did over the course of years of planning things out, they just did what they could and rush the films out and the result isn’t that great. Christopher Nolan made his Batman films one at a time and made sure he had a story to tell before making them and the result is a trilogy of films that people really love and enjoy, so taking the time to craft a multiple film franchise like the DCEU would have been a great thing for them to do rather than try and match Marvel with an expansive universe with DC characters. Instead there are some films people enjoy overall, some films that some people like and some people don’t and then there are films people just straight up dislike as a whole. It’s a mixed bag that instead could have been a great universe of characters that have been beloved for many decades, instead of being in the state that it’s in now. Great video man, this is an excellent breakdown of what all happened to the DCEU and why it didn’t get to flourish as it could have.
DCU: DOA before it even began. Gunn will be worst than Snyder. He exclusively wants to use his Superman. Which from the look of his trunks will be filled with loads of shit like the DCU will be. This current upcoming Diaperman looks so unpopular as Superman that he needs so many other characters to actually make him relevant. As well as Krypto. Only something that Gunn would think of putting in a movie. An irrelevant dog that should only be in animated movies or cartoons. Also where Gunn belongs. Snyder was building up his story to redeem Superman from a normal hero with powers that's flawed like the world to become the beacon of hope after his resurrection after the third Justice League movie. Only more powerful and more driven. You all just don't understand how Snyder works. Those DCU casuals, Snyder hates, WB hardcore fanatics and Gunn worshippers.
@@chunklightmedia5792 Speaking of critical, did you know that Birds of Prey won the critics choice award and that's why Christina Hodson was tapped to write The Flash movie?
I absolutely agree with you. It was doomed from the start. The fact that they (DC and WB) had no plan going in was a huge red flag. Seriously, they already had the succesful Bruce Timm cartoons as a concept and could have just used those for inspiration, especially as they were financially succesful and populaer with comic and non-comic readers. Then, they hired Zack Snyder (despite several flops) and David S. Goyer (known for his bad scripts) to helm Man of Steel and that movie set the entire tone for the DCEU and it was unsuccessful in that regard. They ruined Superman and decided to proceed with Snyder's plans and are surprised they failed?!
Warner Bros back in 2008: “we just want to make batman and superman movies” Should’ve kept your word Warner Bros. And another thing I’m surprised Justice League didn’t kill the franchise.
I’m really baffled that people just eat and accept the excuse it was the studios fault and completely letting snyder off even though he was as responsible of this destruction as WB
That’s not an excuse that’s pretty much common knowledge and well stated amongst podcasters and industry executives. Snyder was a director, he can make suggestions but ultimately he isn’t the boss. WB has a notorious reputation for micromanaging! Zack stated he had to fight to have a lot of scenes put into the Snydercut! If Snyder destroyed the DC universe as you claim, then there would be an overwhelming amount of people yelling to bring back Wheadon! When people saw how much of Cyborg was eliminated out of the storyline and how WB execs wanted to eliminate flash going into the speed force it told DC fans the WB execs are meddling way too much! DC is known for being Dark & Gritty! I saw Shazam’s failure a mile off! They made him light and goofy and Shazam is legit and can go toe to toe with Supes but they made sure you understood differently. If they go with this light goofy side for DC you can forget it
Furthermore, it was WB that made BVS PG-13 not Zack! That Martha line wasn’t originally in the script! It is a fact WB execs has caused mediocrity within DC! The Rock didn’t want to touch Shazam because he was 🤪 which would’ve made BA spend too much time going “what is this?” I don’t blame Zack, Gunn I have very little faith
there were actually a few more canceled dc films that weren’t mentioned. Justice League Dark, Booster Gold and Blue Beetle (now blue beetle), Constantine, Zatanna, Green Lantern Corps on HBO, Blackhawks, and probably a few more IM forgetting lol.
Thanks for the video. I agree, The Suicide Squad, was by far the best and my favorite DCEU movie. Seeing Pete Davidson getting his face blown off didn't hurt either.
Was Green Lantern before or after Deadpool? I wonder why they had the same actor play two different superheros... Has that happened with any other actor?
I dont care about DCU or capeshit in general, but I do like Henry Cavill and his Superman, so if he is gone then im gone. I hope his Warhammer project goes well, because between Superman and Geralt his passion characters just cant get a break.
The first minute and 30 were a perfect introduction to the madness and clusterfuck that was the dceu. I think I was able to embody that in my intro. The rest of the 30 sec was my long channel intro lol. But I am proud of the first minute and a half.
The true DCEU died in 2017 when they WB made the mistake of stepping away from the Zack Snyder plan and did the Joss Whedon Justice League and sequels to that. It's kinda like Superman and Lois thing where it's kinda in the arrowverse but isn't at the same time. 2017-2023 isn't canon to the DCEU.
@@thechosenone9242 Yeah. It definitely needed a reboot. DCEU was an incoherent mess of universe and the general audience has lost interest in it. The majority of the dc fanbase is ready for something new. The ones that are upset and making a fuss about it are the toxic part of the snyder fanbase who wants him to return and continue his plans. After the flash, they've realized that it's not going to happen. Now they're trying to spread hate against the new universe.
@@thegoodstuff3148 Doesn't matter if the momentum is lost that's why there's a reboot. Remember how much Marvel sucked until Iron Man came out. Ghost Rider, Hulk, Spider Man 3, Daredevil, Elektra, Punisher etc
Snyder was the worst choice imaginable to head the DCEU. I cannot imagine why they hired him considering how much money he'd already lost them after Watchmen bombed. His best movies are super long and R rated, he had no business being the face of a PG13 theatrically released extended universe.
for me its sad and very frustrated that DC fans or synder fans/cavill fans are blaming James gunn for the fall of synderverse cuz of hamada's and old executives. th old regime is the one who fucked up synder vision! not Gunn nor seffran or David saslav, none of those three deserve to get hate cuz those three had the only balls or the one' s who really cared to change DC movies and put it on the right track. yes! its unfortunate and very terrible on removing synderverse cuz even me i loved synder did on those characters but gunn isnt the person to blame here. the old regime is the one who fcked up synder and stab him the back multiple times and even reshoots his movies without his consent. thats why im glad that now we have a leaders of dc studio that actually care to make a comicbook movies and that the story connects on DC comics. finally we have a dc studio leaders that actually doing their job to make an universe to us DC fans. Synder did his best and for me he has the best JL movie adaptation but Gunn doesnt deserve to get hated on cuz he wasnt the one that destroyed the synderverse.
True. Gunn and Safran literally found the body in decomposition that was the DCEU, so they didn't have any other choice that wasn't a reboot of the universe.
They gave the keys to the kingdom to the wrong guy. Zack Snyder was always the wrong choice for that world and those characters. It's dirt simple. The fact that we still have people "JuSt gIvE HiM aNoThEr $200000000 aNd AnOtHeR fOuR YeArS tO Do hIs ThInG🤤" is the real mind-boggler.
With the condition dc is in nobody wins. The people who liked Zack Snyders Versions of these characters? Gone. The People who liked the solo less interconnected films? Gone? Batman fans? Better to stick with Math Reeves. Flash Fans? Don’t even get me started
They way these movies cam out seemed rushed as fuck It was like if marvel started with iron man then immediately jumped to captain America civil war then to gardians of the galaxy then to black widow then to avengers
Is this a joke, in the beginning of video u say u have a dceu expert, yet you left out the most pivotal point of this story asnd WHY everything went off rails, you basically omitted it, and you actually make statement that “zack snyder had creative control with bvs” 🤣🤣, like yea in process of shooting movie he did, but #1 wb forced him to rush story (which he still did awsome job of in the 3 films we got), and also the biggest mess up of all, THE STUDIO HACKED A HALF HOUR OF IMPORTANT STORY OUT OF THEATRICAL CUT AT LAST MIN, and the movie was incoherent and didnt make sense because of that, the ULTIMATE EDITION was the movie zack intended to release, but wb wanted to cut time down to get more seats filled in a day in theaters, and THAT is why the critical response was so bad, and THAT is what started the snowball effect that lead to them destroying JL too, they announced the “ultimate edition” on dvd, during like 2nd week of theatrical box office run, cause once critics reviews started dropping and no one understood plot, they realized they were idiots, and when UE was released many of those critics changed there opinion,but unfortunately the damage had been done in public, and from that point on WB leadership wanted to save there own asses, and decided to use “zacks vision” as the scapegoat to blame it on, when it WAS REALLY THEIR INTERFERENCE, they are really 2 different movies comprehension wise, like in theatrical the motivations or why whats happening is happening are all unclear, or just flat out portrayed to audience wrong or not how snyder intended, but the UE its clear from opening sequence that lex is one doing everything and controlling literally every thing every character in movie does thru his genius behind scenes manipulation, he had lois hired n sent to desert, cause he knew sups wud come save her, he sent kg beast n his crew to kill the africans at same time n melt bodies so it looked like sups heat vision killed them, all lex framing sups, the fact that lex is one who starts having the “bat branded” criminals killed in jail, so it looks like batman wanted them killed on purpose, the way lex uses batman as pawn in his plan, and lets batman think he is “stealing” the kryptonite, when really he was doing exactly what lex wanted, but lex was smart enuff to know bats wudnt just willingly work with him, lex making the african lady lie in court to frame sups, and the whole scene where she goes n tells senator truth, and then kg beast kills her in subway, and u see this happen right before capitol blows up, and you know at that point as viewer, that the senator knows lex set it all up, and LEX knows, she knows truth literally moments before blowing her up in capitol, lois investigating whole movie and uncovering lexs plan to us the audience too lot was removed, even the set ups for justice league like the kryptonian ship showing lex about steppenwolf and the mother boxes at the end (with the ORIGINAL steppenwolf design that was used in ZSJL NOT whedon one🙄) like it was so funny to me when people thought that steppenwolf design was new in 2021 lol it was literally in bvs lol, theres just so much that makes sense in ultimate edition, that is just straight wrongly represented or confusing in theatrical cause of missing context, cause the studio was really also trying to sell the “B” vs “S” aspect, like as if it was “GvK” to audience, but thats not what movie was meant to be, it wasnt even suppose to be called bvs, it was really “dawn of justice”, which is really what it is, the prelude to JL, and the trinity meeting, in comics bats n sups have fight when they first meet, it wasnt meant to be an “event”, it was more a sub plot of the origin of their friendship n the league,....im biggest snyder fan ever, and bvs:UE is my fav movie of all time PERIOD, like ZSJL is my fav “CBM”, but bvs:UE is my fave movie in any genre overall, but i will be first to admit that the theatrical was an incoherent mess, and i havnt watched it since UE was released, and it is NOT zacks intended movie and it sucks, and THAT was what made critics react bad, that in turn spread to internet hate, etc etc, honestly its amazing it still made like 900mil despite wb’s interference, but the truth is, if you look at the difference in response to UE, i think its abundantly clear that if the studio wouldnt have been greedy to have more runtimes in day, and they would have just realeased the full 3hr movie in first place, and not a hacked up shell of it, then they wud have made that extra 100mil,, would have crossed billion, which was there goal at time n why they deemed 900mil a failure(cause of what was going on across pond at mcu, even tho was 2nd film in franchise) and then josstice league never would have happened, snyder would have finished JL2&3 and his story 2 years ago😢
Like to me BvS:UE is a genius “superman vs lex” story, one of best ever, and what makes it even better is we get batman being used as pawn in lexs plan, because hes so blinded by his own fears n rage, that he dosent even realize hes falling for it till hes about to plunge a kryptonite spear into sups chest
BvS was sabotaged by the WB shills. The film was censored and butchered. The WB shills forced Snyder to remove 30 minutes of footage for the theatrical release. And after that, they completely DESTROYED Justice League with the aid of the abuser Joss Whedon. That's why all the WB execs were FIRED and now the company is 50 BILLIONS in debt. BvS: Ultimate Edition is one of the best comic book movies ever made. #SellZSJLtoNetflix #BoycottWBD
"one of the best selling blurays and 4K blurays of 2021" Narrator : "Indeed it wasnt. It was Wonder woman 1984 which topped the charts of physical media in 2021"
They should make a movie about DCEU. Maybe that will pass 1-billion-dollar worldwide.
I would love to see a docuseries about the DCEU, the behind-the-scenes, and what a failure it was. It would be fascinating.
They'd defo interfere with the writing of that lol
Comment of the day! Bravo Sr! 👊🏽💯🌟
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@@jasonrenicks7670 lmao
As a DC fan, this just breaks my heart. Hope they get back on track eventually, because there are so many awesome characters that could make for fun films...Nightwing, Plastic Man, Spectre, etc.
Nobody needs "fun" films. We need GOOD films. The childish leftist indoctrinating propaganda that Disney/Marvel produces is disgusting.
Spectre would make a great tv ma HBO Maxx mini series
@@darkseid6898 I’d agree until you brought up politics outta nowhere
James Gunn is a pedo and he should be in JAIL.
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
A Plastic Man movie starring Bill Hader would be dope.
It’s actually impressive how much of a disaster WB made this universe even with movies like Shazam and Wonder Woman but it’s not even funny to laugh at, with the potential of this universe with the great actors like Cavill, it’s just a tragedy
It's embarrassing like the justice league is more ionic then the avengers yet gets a movie that disrespect s them
James Gunn is a pedo and he should be in JAIL.
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Aint no way u said cavil is a great actor 🤣.hes mid
@@Chadcat180christian bale as batman is top tier
I really do feel bad for Cavill. He really wanted to do an optimistic Superman and I feel he would’ve done a fantastic job. I hope they can at least bring him back for some kind of multiverse movie.
Honestly Zack Snyder should have just stuck with his original idea (as well as listening to some fan demands) to making a Superman film saga so we can see him transition from being an unsure, flawed, and inexperienced hero trying to learn from mistakes to becoming the embodiment of hope we so desperately need.
No cameos, no cheap references, no multiverse, and certainly no Justice League because I want this to be about Superman and only Superman, his supporting cast and character development so this would we can put his character arc to rest; But instead we got a failed cinematic universe sorely need of a reboot.
Am I the only who’s GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF MULTIVERSES?!?! EVERYBODY wants to make multiverses, now-EVEN SPONGEBOB! Can we just please take a break from that now? Hollywood is lucky I’m not a dictator or else I’ll force them to cut that out-OR ELSE!
@@DeadlyAlienInvader
Honestly you are not alone I too am getting tired of this multiverse crap. I feel like that they're doing this is because they got nothing interesting to do with so they're trying to like pump everyone up for needless crossovers just to make things interesting.
It gets worse whenever there are different TV shows that have similar animations people are going to make posts saying that they're in the same universe just to sound smart.
@@leoorduna2199 i don't believe snyder had any plan to bring in a more hopeful superman. HIs plan was to make a superman go evil and kill wonder woman and aquaman and batman kill himself.
I Just want these Superheroes to be symbols of Hope and joy again, no more doom and gloom please
Bruh it's so sad that both henry and ben likes superman and batman so much and understand their characters but didn't get faithful adaptations
I know it is extremely unfortunate :(
@@chunklightmedia5792 Can't say it was ended by the D-She-U because it was destroyed by the fandom menace. At least Marvel is more successful at garnering diverse audiences
Don't be stupid and ignorant. The Snyderverse is fantastic. The problem always was the WB shills who boycotted and sabotaged their own projects.
#SellZSJLtoNetflix
@@darkseid6898 it was okay at best but no one can deny that the superman and batman we saw in Snyder movies weren't comic faithful
@@kitgo596 No, it was clearly NOT "okay at best"; that's pure ignorance. And if you think that Snyder movies were not faithul to the source material, then you clearly haven't read enough comic books. You need to educate yourself.
#SellZSJLtoNetflix
Im still genuienly upset that ezra has gotten 0 consequences for his proven actions when johnny depp got dropped from literally everything for what has been proven to be false
I know, it’s crazy how studios try to make us forget about certain shit.
Come on this shouldn’t be mental gymnastics. He’s actively in a movie. If they let him go it will make for media mess. He’s for sure being dropped after the movie
@@Michael-mt6yb as if its not already a media mess
@@swagwolfgang oh I agree
Ezra doesn't have any future projects and will be fired after the Flash movie.
If only WB had the strength for a complete reboot...sadly, Gunn has only offered confusion.
In a few years u would forget all about this failed universe
@@MyDeeroc, I hope we never forget.
Meh the mcu started off with some bad continuity too which most people just forgot about
@@PerfectTroy1 Why? This universe sucked my guy.
@@Batwing20293 , I agree that the Snyderverse sucked. My point is that Gunn should have wiped the slate clean, but he didn’t.
The problem was WB panicked when a few movies didn't do exactly what they expected, they then interfered on movies & rushed movies out, in their panic they changed the slate, cancelled some, if they would've stuck to the plan, let the writers n directors do their thing I think it would've been a different story, some highs some lows but would've built into something really good, by now it would've probably been done n now they could've done what their doing now
The problem was they tried to make quick cash off of their DC comics without thinking it through and hiring creatives suited to the job. Instead they hired Zack Snyder to helm an entire cinematic universe when he has exhibited little to no storytelling aptitude.
It’s unfortunate we won’t see Zach Snyder’s master plan with this franchise. There was a lot left in the air but we’ll see what the flash does and the rest of Gunn’s dc slate.
@@chunklightmedia5792 His masterplan wasn't making them money.
@@joelhenry5489 how do you tell a story..... correctly, other than out of order(wait a minute) how do you do this 'right'?
EXACTLY. Been saying this for so long. The fact that they thought they’d make a billion per movie right out the gate is baffling. Especially considering the general populations still thought Christian Bale was Batman. MoS was a great start. BvS damn near hit a billion and arguably would have if they released the extended cut. And JL would have been a hit (Zacks version). Not to mention we would have had Nightwing, JL 2 coming, Deathstroke etc. Oh well.
Fun fact: All the disastrous moments in DCEU were all done by Reverse Flash
A perfectly edited, 37 minute autopsy. Just summed up everything I've hated over the last 10 years. This franchise was gift wrapped for success, yet failure seemed to be the only option.
From an outsider’s perspective - it’s so weird that it’s supposedly all about money, but the people in charge of the choices seem to make the wrong choices each time??? I’m so confused haha, why can’t we just make movies that are good? Good movies make money, no matter what.
Because they weren’t trying to make good movies they were just hoping that the name of the characters & the fact that they were bootleg MCU movies were enough to earn them money.
But they forgot the reason Marvel was successful with the MCU is because they knew they had to make good movies to kick off their franchise to get people to keep coming back & every movie left enough ground work for another director to work off of. Like the Russo brothers making that hype Captain America Mjolnir moment in Endgame due to Joss Whedon leaving a door open for them in Age Of Ultron where it was shown that he could lift the hammer he just didn’t so he wouldn’t hurt Thors ego.
Having Snyder who is very strict on his vision & wouldn’t compromise with the studio was a horrible idea from the start because it made it extremely difficult for other directors who wanted to make more light hearted stories because it would feel like tone whiplash to the audience due to how MOS & BvS kicked things off & established that this wasn’t going to be a world where we could get a mix of dark & fun stories. And some leading to plot holes like WW1984 where the events of that movie were for some reason not brought up in MOS where Superman’s reveal was treated as the first supernatural incident the world has seen or Batman not knowing about her till 2016 despite being the worlds greatest detective & researching a ton about the world.
I love how Ezra gets a whole section dedicated to him……. 😂
This video was great, I appreciate you guys going over every single detail with each project and such. I was unfortunately one of the kids who grew up with these movies and was super bummed out not seeing a proper continuation after JLP1. Now becoming an adult, I now get to see a more proper DC cinematic universe!
I remember having apprehensions when Zack Snyder was hired to direct Man of Steel because I didn’t care for 300. But I wanted to believe.
Then I had more reservations when the sequel was announced to be about Batman fighting Superman, because that shit is never made to make Superman look good. But I wanted so hard to believe.
I wanted so hard to have a DC cinematic universe even justifying that awful Martha moment.
I eventually admitted to myself that I did not like Snyder’s vision.
I’m very excited to see what James Gunn will be doing
Me too
The fact is Snyder was going for an injustice storyline and bvs wasn't supposed to be 2nd movie. It was supposed to come after man of steel 2 and solo batman movie. That would've added lot of context to the bvs plot rather than just being a movie where justice league members are introduced. You have a problem with Snyder apparently or his movies aren't to ur taste and that's ok. But It isn't Zack Snyder fault the dceu flopped. Cos if it was then Zacks version of justice league wudve flopped too but it was a massive hit. James Gunn has made good movies but his suicide squad was nothing special. And guardians of the galaxy vol 2 wad enjoyable but gog 1 was mediocre at best. Time will tell if this DC stuff will work. Still a what if lingers on..
@@AvinashElsa most people who watched Zack Snyder’s cut were already fans of Zack Snyder, so there’s a lot of confirmation bias.
As someone whose favorite superhero is Superman, I’m so glad his Injustice plans failed.
@paulieboy6644 well not really since, it was a massive hit. Now if only Snyder fans enjoyed the movie, then I'd say 80 to 90 of dceu fans are Snyder fans then. So you can't really say it's confirmation bias. Now personally I don't understand the criticism people have on man of steel tbh. Like what is wrong? It's a movie where he learns to be what he is. Did that cause destruction, well absolutely since aliens are fighting. Or is it superman killing zod because it's not the first time done on film. Or is it the color tone, not enough light? Or sad realistic story? I mean superman fans should love the movie it makes a young noob superman look very very good. Who knows to each their own I guess.
@@AvinashElsa the “Massive success” of ZSJL was destroyed by Godzilla vs Kong in streaming numbers. Of course WB is going to claim it was a “massive success”. Quite literally the only people who cared about this movie at all were Snyder’s fans.
Solid video but in 2021 No Way Home , Dune, and Shang Chi all came out so the biggest thing was def not just the Snyder Cut.
Dune sucks
@@carealoo744 Oh no! Anyway.
Lil bro said Shang-Chi💀
and no way home and dune.@@darthdragonborn1552
Snyder cut never was biggest at all gunn's SS bodied it
I'll never forget the theater experience cor BvS. Everyone was dead silent throughout and at the end one person started clapping and no one joined them. They slowly stopped when realizing this.
BvS was the first time I fell asleep at a theater
BvS was a fascinating disaster, in that killing Superman should be the sort of auspicious cinematic moment you can only do once. And yet I felt nothing and the whole theater had no apparent emotional response. No gasp, no sob, no “oh no!”, no applause. Nothing.
BvS isn't just a great super hero film, it's a great film/story regardless of genre.
It was more enjoyable than the dark knight though
That's how it was as well for josstice league
Mcu after 10 years: Hey, let’s start an infinity war!
DCEU after 10 years: It’s over we quit!
Cavill was never fired, he never had a contract for a second film after the cameo was filmed
“Fired” doesn’t necessarily mean contractually. Before the James Gunn shakeup, Dwayne Johnson was meant to be a creative pillar of sorts for the DCEU. In it, he wanted Cavill’s Superman, Levi’s Shazam and possibly both current versions of Batman running around. Remember, this was before Gunn became attached. What happened between Johnson and Gunn once the shakeup happened can only be left up to interpretation.
Don't be stupid and ignorant. Henry Cavill was 100% FIRED. WB is CANCER. They boycotted and sabotaged their own projects. That's why all of them were FIRED and now the company is 50 BILLIONS in debt. Cavill, Snyder and the fans were SCREWED by WB.
#SellZSJLtoNetflix
#BoycottWBD
@@jayguero2123 That's putting it lightly, The Rock straight up tried to pull a coup on DC
@@NobleRaider2747 Yeah in hindsight, it’s hilarious I gave DJ the benefit of the doubt given everything we know now 🤣. In his defense though, he saw an opportunity and took it. The DCEU never stood a chance with the general public outside of a niche group of people who love Zack Snyder. If James Gunn was never offered the position he has now, who knows. Maybe a DC franchised centered around Black Adam and Superman wasn’t that bad of an idea given all the failures of the DCEU.
@Jay Guero indeed, he saw that the fans wanted Henry Cavill back, and decided to take that opportunity, effectively trying to use Henry's Superman as a pawn (or Trojan horse?) to get the fans' favor
As we all know, this failed, badly
There is NO way they will keep Miller, they just don't want to draw too much attention to his legal issues before the movie comes out. They'll drop him like a sack of potatoes as soon as The Flash comes out. Probably replace him via post credit scene.
I didn’t watch flash, did that happen?
@@all_out_tripp7220 no, well, not really. The ending insinuates he is in another universe than the main one, so.. kinda?
@@d3rrick10493 I will outright laugh at WB if they keep Ezra around for some goddamn reason.
I am absolutely glad that the trashfire that was the DCEU is dead and being replaced. Maybe the new one will be better, maybe the same level of shit, maybe worse, but at least it's a new attempt. The DCEU was doomed from the start with that edgelord Snyder in charge of a fucking Superman movie. I just feel for Henry Cavill. He seems like a good, passionate guy that really understands the characters and worlds he's acting in from the Witcher to DC to Warhammer (maybe) and I don't say that lightly. A lot of actors claim to be big fans of Star Wars or Marvel or DC or whatever, but I've seen plenty of times where Cavill is clearly passionate and knowledgeable. I respect that. I'm sorry he didn't get to play the Superman he deserved. In another life maybe he did.
Don't really see The Suicide Squad as a reboot. It doesn't contradict the first one and it's the Suicide Squad the roster would rotate. If anything it's more of a sequel that happens later.
green lantern might be bad but the sinestro casting was perfect
Fr he was wasted potential
there is no one i trust more than James Gunn.
Good luck with that
@@maximusprime3459Cope.
@@maximusprime3459cope
This is the most beautifully made dcu videos I have ever seen, and you very little subs, hope more people recognize your video editing talents
It is a real shame that this era of dc is over and wasn't handled well, hope they learn from their mistakes, doubt it, but hopefully this era can be concluded as an elseworld story one day, that would be cool
Very much appreciated man, thanks for the love!
Yeah hopefully these characters won’t be forgotten and maybe some day we can see a proper conclusion or even a crossover.
@@chunklightmedia5792hey bro what Japanese song did you use for intro? Pls tell
WB execs were fed up of Snyder, because his movies weren't "profitable enough".
Too bad for them though, the only movies that made any money were actually the ones where he (coincidentially) was either the writter, the producer or the director:
* Man of Steel (direcor) - $ 688 MIL;
* Batman v Superman (director) - $ 873.6 MIL;
* Suicide Squad 2016 (producer) - $ 746.8 MIL;
* Wonder Woman (writter) - $ 822.8 MIL;
* Aquaman (producer) - $ 1.149 BIL;
Not to mention, his version of Justice League (the one that was supposed to be "unwatchable") was way better received and broke many records throughout the world.
The executives at WB are the only ones to blame for this mess.
The guy may not be a genius (as usually most people aren't), but they never figured why their expectations weren't fulfilled and threw him under the bus.
Jokes on them, HA HA.
BvS was sabotaged by the WB shills. The film was censored and butchered. The WB shills forced Snyder to remove 30 minutes of footage for the theatrical release. And after that, they completely DESTROYED Justice League with the aid of the abuser Joss Whedon. That's why all the WB execs were FIRED and now the company is 50 BILLIONS in debt. BvS: Ultimate Edition and ZSKL are some of the best comic book movies ever made.
#SellZSJLtoNetflix
#BoycottWBD
Jokes on u .every snyder movie flopped 🤣.do ur research also aquamn producer is peter safran not snyder
I'm not gonna lie, I did smile a bit when I heard John Williams's 'Superman' theme as Cavill entered in the 'Black Adam' post credit scene. Hopefully he gets a second chance in a multiverse movie (like 'Crisis on Infinite Earths' or another story involving the DC multiverse) like how Andrew Garfield got a second chance as Spiderman in 'Spider-Man: No Way Home'.
Hope he plays Sentry, or Hyperion, or Gladiator in the MCU, lampshade included.
"Wasn't your first choice, was it?"
"Well, I tried _Superman_ first, but..." (knowing smile) "It didn't work out."
James Gunn is a pedo and he should be in JAIL.
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
I like Cavil as the look of Superman but if you think Snyder did a good job writing him, I’m not sure what to tell you
I do, tell me he did a good job, because he did! Let’s be honest, we’ve had the tighty wighty Here I come to save the Day Up Up and Away version of Superman since the freaking 30’s! We needed something different but not too far off the path. We know the basics, Kypton destroyed, vulnerable to Kryptonite and 🪄, indestructible and all around “that guy!” Yet, many people related to this Supes because he had real world problems that people as humans understand! Seeing that 😡 and wanted to let it all hang out but having the discipline to adhere to morale, people related and felt that full stop! Being laughed at, mocked and feared as if you don’t belong, people felt that! People didn’t like he broke the spell of the same old stale Superman! I do admit he tried to cram too much into BVS but WB was pushing him to do it
@@LanternEnergy Agree with this. Im quite young (2005) and didnt have much surface level origin knowledge of DC characters throughout my life until recently. I started watching ZSJL when it released and I liked it- made me intrigued to see what I really missed out on throughout the years- so I revisited the previous movies like Man of Steel & BvS through clips. This whole time I just assumed the Man of Steel movie would just be a good guy untouchable superman for 2 hours but I saw the court scene and it had me hooked. I personally don't mind Zack's take on any of these characters and I believe they could stand on their own. Sure BvS looked like they had some issues but I believe if the DCEU slate took its time it would've been pretty respectable. All things considered, I'm curious as to what the new justice league could look like in the future of the DCU
Cavill is a great Supes cast. But Snyder made him a Kryptonian Tony Stark-esque "faulty and guilt-riden" character.
@@LanternEnergy Because Superman is inherently innocent, and he always saves the day with a boatload of hope for the people. Real-world problems? What are those? These apply to Spider-Man, not Superman. Go read comic books again. Superman isn't Marvel, Snyder made Supes a Marvel character.
@@mottom2657 to me it made him more relatable and current for the time.
Just to correct you at 9:30, I'm not sure you've heard about the Ultimate Edition (very solid film that could've prevented so much imo) of Batman v Superman, but WB interfered by making them cut 30 minutes, which effectively "dumbed it down" which can arguably be to blame for poor critical reception of the theatrical.
Exactly i went on bigger rant about this at top of comments👍🤣
😂😂😂😂 its good cuz the theatrical version is bad . Similar to how zsjl is seen as a good movie but its in comparison to jl 2017
Very solid
I still like to know how the fuck Luthor knows Barman identity
And I still despise Knightmare
Lmao improve ur taste it still dogfood
I do think The Flashpoint movie is going to make more money than Ant-Man 3 and The Marvels at the box office
That intro is absolute gold! 😆🤣
One day we'll have a restrospective of retrospective videos.
Which are probably the best thing that we have gotten as a result of the mess that has been the DCEU. I am partial to very angry and upset fan vids, who borderline in being delusional, but this one is a good one. A bit too hopeful at the end, for my taste, but it will do. 😅
Like the MCU I Witnessed the DCEU with a Few Ups and Many Unfortunate Downfalls and It’s All to 4 Things,WB letting DC Out of Control without Any Plans or Directions,Dwayne Johnson spending 15 Years on His Black Adam Project but Doesn’t Understand the Source Material,that the Character He Was Playing is a Shazam Villain that with his Fragile Ego didn’t want to Lose because of a Dumb Contract,and the One Thing that He and His Ex Wife did that’s Divided the Fan is that they Brought Henry Cavill Back as Superman,Not mainly for the Fans but to make Black Adam fight the Man of Steel instead of Shazam,Without understanding DC was in a Mess,Patty Jenkins is Another that wasn’t Loyal to the Wonder Woman Character than instead of being Faithful to the Lore She Picked New Paint Jobs of Characters that Tainted the Source Material,and Finally I was going to Pick Jared Leto and Margot Robbie but they aren’t the Problem on this Topic so the One that that Damage DC is Zach Snyder,Look I Love Man of Steel so much I still Rewatch it to this Day and he’ll I even Read the Novel and love His Action Cinematography that has this Anime Style,However his Vision in Movies is Questionable yeah He was Forced by WB to create a Universe instead of a Superman Trilogy,Yes I Understand why He Left on that Horrible Family Tragedy,and Yes I Respect and Believe He’s a Comic Book Fan at Heart however He’s doesn’t Know about Storytelling and Character Dialogues,especially when He’s the Reason why Ezra Miller was Hired on WB and DC to be the Flash without Checking His Background back in the Early 2010s he Did Things that were Signs to Red Flags that could have been Avoided,I Don’t Blame James Gunn,He’s True on His Word and He’s the Only Person I Trust on Adaptating Stories but do Major Changes that Doesn’t Work to make the Projects Work so in a Weird Way I’m Looking Forward to DC’s Future.
Miller is too much of a PR nightmare for them to keep around. I wouldn’t be surprised if they aren’t around for the new Rebirth of the DCU.
The DCEU was dead on arrival when killing Superman in the second movie was pitched and _nobody involved_ said that was a stupid idea.
Jason Mamoa may still be with DC and he may get the part Lobo which is a better role for him.
Great video please make more! Whats your take on the mcu? How about all the new independents with movie/tv deals?
We have a whole MCU phase 1 & 2 tier list :) plus a phase 4 podcast episode if you want to check them out
One of the only projects that I'm actually sad didn't come out was the deathstroke movie. 1 because he's a cool af character, and 2 because IT WAS GOING TO BE DIRECTED BY THE GUY WHO MADE THE RAID 1 AND 2 (2 of the best action/Kung fu movies ever made)
A Very-Much Justified (no pun intended) End to the Incredibly Strange and Insane Journey of the DCEU
(Cue Barry Allen's tooth falling off at the end of the Flash movie) 🤣🤣🤣
I remember being so excited for Man of Steel and thought it was gonna be part of the Nolen and Green Lantern universe. Disappointed to learn that was not the case
The announcement of the SnyderCut did bring a lot of new suscribers. In fact, the Snydercut could be consider as the greatest thing that happened to HBOMAX for all the buzz that generated before release.
Snyder's plan wasn't Man of Steel 2 and JL 2
The SnyderCut wasn't received with mixed reviews. IMdb literally put it just below The Dark Knight. And even RT gave it a good score.
Yes, BVS was different from what the MCU was doing at the time, it's a shame that until now people is realizing that BVS was actually a good movie. And yes, A LOT of people is realizing that I'm not just saying it.
To bad also that most people still look for Rotten Tomatoes rather than having their own opinion on a movie.
Agree with literally all of your takes especially about bvs. However it was clear WB due not market the Snyder cut well and wanted the film to not succeed
Excpet it didn't? There was a huge buzz before how barely 1/3rd of the viewers finished the movie in the 1st week; Not like the Irishman which was gauged by not being finished by 1/3rd of viewers in tge 1st day.
TSS at a point became the most viewed DC Film; Mortal Kombat and Godzilla vs. Kong did even more numbers than TSS. Dune and even Space Jam was viewed more than ZSJL.
ZSJL was prolly a test, to see how much number would actually be pulled from ZS's work; Because shortly after that, they canned the script for MOS 2 and gave Gunn Superman to write.
IMDb only rated it highly cause of Snyder fans bumping up the scores. 90% of people circle jerking BvS are just poeple talking about how the fight scenes are good and that’s it
BvS is not good, and never will be.
Another day, another copium-induced Sex Snyder rant. How long will you continue? Snyder made Supes a Marvel character; Supes isn't dark.
Great video, ChunkLight! Missing some things but still very good.
Thank you, thank you. We tried our best to get as much info as we could. I appreciate the comments that are giving insight on information I might have missed.
You forgot WB did meddle with BvS making it PG-13 to attract more audience and cutting 30 minutes from it just to get more showings.
There is always some slight studio interference in one way or another, but BvS and MoS were mostly left up to the hands of Snyder to do as he pleased. Once the reviews for BvS came out though that’s when WB decided they wanted to take more creative control
@Hector B yeah, and that gave us Joss Whedon and that disaster, Snyder cut redeemed that film, but it could have made some minor cuts.
@@99GregPotter so what i've been hearing about a MoS 2 was a lie? wb exec's didn't want batman to be in the 2nd movie.... along with WW, Cyborg, Flash and Aquaman?
@@99GregPotter BvS was sabotaged by the WB shills. The film was censored and butchered. The WB shills forced Snyder to remove 30 minutes of footage for the theatrical release. And after that, they completely DESTROYED Justice League with the aid of the abuser Joss Whedon. That's why all the WB execs were FIRED and now the company is 50 BILLIONS in debt. BvS: Ultimate Edition is one of the best comic book movies ever made. Educate yourself.
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@Caliginous Moira no, Snyder wanted to make MOS 2 but WB wanted to play catch up with Marvel so they made him shoehorn all the justice league members in BvS.
Godzilla vs Kong destroyed the Snyder Cut's streaming numbers while having a theatrical release, so saying the latter was the only film people cared about at the time is quite disingenuous
What you’ve stated is an unfair assessment. Godzilla v Kong is a 1h 53m movie while Snydercut was 4 hours. You can show 2 Godzilla streams for every Snydercut you play. Yes, you’ll get more streams because the average network isn’t going to pay to have a 4hr movie sit in their ☁️ for 90 days. The demand isn’t going to be as high for a 4 hr movie even if it’s good due to attention spans. Lord of the Rings was last to do it and that day died long ago. Snydercut in 2021 did have the highest sells in blue rays and 📀’s. But I do agree that it wasn’t the only film people cared about at the time.
Lol the suicide squad bodied snyder cut
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Man a Mamoa Lobo movie sounds great. Love that character
Very well made concise and detailed history of the dceu many failures
Thank you!!!!! :)
By people wanting DC to fail they inadvertently caused the downfall of marvel. If marvel had competition they'd step up their game. Marvel is lazy now. Since they don't have competition they don't have that fire under their ass to give them the drive.
Expecting to fail and wanting to failare two different things.
I did not want DC to fail, i wanted them tod o good but over and over they kept making decitions that didnot help, and now neither company is doing so great right now
5:05 “…Man of Steel was released to mixed, but ‘mainly positive,’ reviews.”
ME: actually most people didn’t like Man of Steel when it came out. I was there. I remember. People in the theater were really displeased with the overall tone and lack of fun.
Worst superman movie
When are they coming out with the Black Vulcan feature film? Or Marvin and Wendy?
With the amount of dc movies that keeps bombing how the fuck does warner bros still have money? Lol
Because some of these movies were awful, but still made enough money to keep the lights on. Even a film as lazy and terrible as Superman IV made back its budget. If a movie has Superman or Batman in it, *somebody* will pay to see it. Maybe not twice, but once, at least.
Even so, Warner has a lot of media ventures, some of which did flop, which is how they racked up enough debt to get bought and sold by AT&T, and then by Discovery.
To be honest they kind of deserved it.
While i'm excited for the new DC Universe, there's no denying that the new universe is bascially trying to be the next Star Wars and Doctor Who since they told stories in all forms of media in the same continuity.
I found this video more interesting than any DCEU movie I have ever watched.
Lol maybe I should direct a DCEU film 😳
The intro to this video gave me a headache, thanks chunky
DCEU sucked from the beginning that's why Man of Steel was criticized by general audience same as BvS however ZSJL ended up as positive response by viewers because there is Josstice league to compare. Remember when BVS ended up like MOS WB involved because they losing continuity and they had no idea what is Zack is doing. Zack is not comic book fan. He made Superman like Harry Potter and Watchmen. Moreover won't kill people even if he is criminal but Ben's Batman kills people that really sucks. Secondly, Zack JL 2 was suppose to have Lois Lane and Bruce relationship. WHAT THE HELL??? we never read that in comics or we never seen that in cartoons. In bis third JL movie Bruce dies by fighting Darksied and Lois having kid and they naming him as Bruce Kent were he do not have powers like Superman. OVERALL ZACK SNYDER'S DCEU is full of confusion and mess and it is hard to communicate to general audience, there is no use of crying via social media to restore the snyderverse because it won't work due budget. If Black Adam ended up as Successful in Box office we would have Black Adam 2, Snyderverse, MOS 2 and so on nevertheless it ended up as flop even if there was Henry Cavill cameo therefore James Gunn came to board and rebooted the franchise for good, I FULLY agree with his plan and his vision he made GOTG trilogy great in addition he read comic books and bring them to life that's the brilliance of the director. Zack's making style may be unique still he lack comic book knowledge that's were Marvel won the game since 2008 first they gave everyone a solo then they brought everyone together as Avengers in 2012 which ended up as GOAT besides it earned 1.5 billion at the box office.
They could have done what Marvel did and just made a few individual films of the essential Justice League characters before making a Justice League film. Henry Cavil should have done Man of Steel 2, where Russell Crowe would return as Jor-El and guide him to help him to harness the powers he has, a standalone Batman film in the universe, a Wonder Woman film, a Flash film, a Aquaman film, a Green Lantern film and then finally a Justice League film, with the other characters having sequels of their own as long as the right people were on board to make them. There could be two films in a year in some instances, as we saw Marvel do that before the Avengers and so within 5 years there could have been a great set up for a Justice League film, rather than a big catch-up with Marvel and trying to put all the characters together in a film as fast as possible. It’s clear they wanted to beat Marvel at their own game, but rather than use what they did over the course of years of planning things out, they just did what they could and rush the films out and the result isn’t that great. Christopher Nolan made his Batman films one at a time and made sure he had a story to tell before making them and the result is a trilogy of films that people really love and enjoy, so taking the time to craft a multiple film franchise like the DCEU would have been a great thing for them to do rather than try and match Marvel with an expansive universe with DC characters. Instead there are some films people enjoy overall, some films that some people like and some people don’t and then there are films people just straight up dislike as a whole. It’s a mixed bag that instead could have been a great universe of characters that have been beloved for many decades, instead of being in the state that it’s in now. Great video man, this is an excellent breakdown of what all happened to the DCEU and why it didn’t get to flourish as it could have.
R.I.P DCEU..... Note to James Gunn, don't kill Superman in your second movie.. Or suffer the fate of your predecessor
DCU: DOA before it even began. Gunn will be worst than Snyder. He exclusively wants to use his Superman. Which from the look of his trunks will be filled with loads of shit like the DCU will be. This current upcoming Diaperman looks so unpopular as Superman that he needs so many other characters to actually make him relevant. As well as Krypto. Only something that Gunn would think of putting in a movie. An irrelevant dog that should only be in animated movies or cartoons. Also where Gunn belongs. Snyder was building up his story to redeem Superman from a normal hero with powers that's flawed like the world to become the beacon of hope after his resurrection after the third Justice League movie. Only more powerful and more driven. You all just don't understand how Snyder works. Those DCU casuals, Snyder hates, WB hardcore fanatics and Gunn worshippers.
@@DanielKeller-lw1euokay Snyder fan 😂.
Birds of Prey was not critically panned. What are you on about?
It was critically panned by us :3
@@chunklightmedia5792 Speaking of critical, did you know that Birds of Prey won the critics choice award and that's why Christina Hodson was tapped to write The Flash movie?
tbh it's kinda trash on all levels and is only praised by rotten tomatoes lol
The first minute of the video hits really hard 💔
I don’t think a Static Shock movie was in production. I hope we get one soon. James Gunn, don’t fuck up.
That and we have Static as a part of the Justice League.
Coleman Domingo would be a perfect fit as Robert Hawkins.
WB always butchered their movies. Thats a fact
I absolutely agree with you. It was doomed from the start. The fact that they (DC and WB) had no plan going in was a huge red flag. Seriously, they already had the succesful Bruce Timm cartoons as a concept and could have just used those for inspiration, especially as they were financially succesful and populaer with comic and non-comic readers. Then, they hired Zack Snyder (despite several flops) and David S. Goyer (known for his bad scripts) to helm Man of Steel and that movie set the entire tone for the DCEU and it was unsuccessful in that regard. They ruined Superman and decided to proceed with Snyder's plans and are surprised they failed?!
WB had no plan snyder took advandage of that situation to make stinkers
Warner Bros back in 2008: “we just want to make batman and superman movies”
Should’ve kept your word Warner Bros.
And another thing I’m surprised Justice League didn’t kill the franchise.
I’m really baffled that people just eat and accept the excuse it was the studios fault and completely letting snyder off even though he was as responsible of this destruction as WB
That’s not an excuse that’s pretty much common knowledge and well stated amongst podcasters and industry executives. Snyder was a director, he can make suggestions but ultimately he isn’t the boss. WB has a notorious reputation for micromanaging! Zack stated he had to fight to have a lot of scenes put into the Snydercut! If Snyder destroyed the DC universe as you claim, then there would be an overwhelming amount of people yelling to bring back Wheadon! When people saw how much of Cyborg was eliminated out of the storyline and how WB execs wanted to eliminate flash going into the speed force it told DC fans the WB execs are meddling way too much! DC is known for being Dark & Gritty! I saw Shazam’s failure a mile off! They made him light and goofy and Shazam is legit and can go toe to toe with Supes but they made sure you understood differently. If they go with this light goofy side for DC you can forget it
Furthermore, it was WB that made BVS PG-13 not Zack! That Martha line wasn’t originally in the script! It is a fact WB execs has caused mediocrity within DC! The Rock didn’t want to touch Shazam because he was 🤪 which would’ve made BA spend too much time going “what is this?” I don’t blame Zack, Gunn I have very little faith
Snyder ruined dc WB hired him
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DCEU should be doing more with The DC Extended Universe.
Fuck no the dceu/SNYDERVERSE failed for a reason and that’s the reboot was needed?
Ahh. But how so? When is Jon Wayne putting on the suit?
The first thirty seconds of this video had me hooked.
there were actually a few more canceled dc films that weren’t mentioned. Justice League Dark, Booster Gold and Blue Beetle (now blue beetle), Constantine, Zatanna, Green Lantern Corps on HBO, Blackhawks, and probably a few more IM forgetting lol.
This is brilliant.
30:14 made me laugh my ass off
I left when the dark knight trilogy was over. Everything went to shit after !
Thanks for the video.
I agree, The Suicide Squad, was by far the best and my favorite DCEU movie. Seeing Pete Davidson getting his face blown off didn't hurt either.
Lmao definitely a highlight of the movie
🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
SS was your favorite DCEU film, say that but it being the best DCEU film, 🛑 it!
@@Cbriggs502u love hack snyder garbo
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That intro is comedy gold lol
Batman vs Superman was HORRIFIC. Justice League was Worse. OG Suicide Squad was just a Complete Mess. DCEU just a DISASTER.
Zack snyder's justice league was great
@@dericjames2018 not really if you actually pay attention. I could explain but you should probably watch Mauler’s video on why the Snyder Cut sucked.
@@dericjames2018 it was better than Josstice League but still was dog shit.
@@dericjames2018 no, it was less terrible.
Mos was the worst superman movie
Marvel fans are laughing hard at DC 🤣
Dc fans are laughing at marvel for having terrible shows like she hulk, Ms marvel and terrible CGI lately mcu films
Birds of Prey wasn't critically panned.
Right? It has probably the more balanced scored between audiences and critics, with near 80%. I think someone skipped on researching a few things. 😅
I was thinking the same
DCEU is just a mess.
10/10 great video
I loved where the Lantern Corps was going next! Sinestro can still be the beginning of the Injustice League and continue the DCEU.
Was Green Lantern before or after Deadpool? I wonder why they had the same actor play two different superheros... Has that happened with any other actor?
I dont care about DCU or capeshit in general, but I do like Henry Cavill and his Superman, so if he is gone then im gone. I hope his Warhammer project goes well, because between Superman and Geralt his passion characters just cant get a break.
Worst superman is gone .good riddance
Jesus Christ what made you think a two minute intro was necessary?
The first minute and 30 were a perfect introduction to the madness and clusterfuck that was the dceu. I think I was able to embody that in my intro. The rest of the 30 sec was my long channel intro lol. But I am proud of the first minute and a half.
@@chunklightmedia5792 I loved that first minute and a half and many others did too for sure 😍 👏
Watching this in march 2023 and still updating...sighs
The true DCEU died in 2017 when they WB made the mistake of stepping away from the Zack Snyder plan and did the Joss Whedon Justice League and sequels to that. It's kinda like Superman and Lois thing where it's kinda in the arrowverse but isn't at the same time. 2017-2023 isn't canon to the DCEU.
They stepped away from Snyder’s plan because of the underwhelming box office as well as the poor critical reception.
And it’s all canon to the DCEU except for the Snyder Cut. That’s why the DCEU is being rebooted. It was all a mess.
Snyder flopped 🤣
I’d say marvel movies making 900,800,700 million is better than 300 million 😂
do you like jake paul?
i can make billions and be the worst thing in existence.....
@@caliginousmoira8565 I stopped liking Jake after team 10 ended
@@thanoswasright5333 That just proves how dumb and ignorant you are.
@@darkseid6898 so a movie making profit is ignorant 😂🤡
@@thanoswasright5333 All Snyder movies made good profit and you know it. Stop lying. Nobody buys your crap.
#SellZSJLtoNetflix
Waiting for DCU.
The dceu needed a restart hence the dcu. Why are people so mad about them rebooting😂
@@thechosenone9242 Yeah. It definitely needed a reboot. DCEU was an incoherent mess of universe and the general audience has lost interest in it. The majority of the dc fanbase is ready for something new. The ones that are upset and making a fuss about it are the toxic part of the snyder fanbase who wants him to return and continue his plans. After the flash, they've realized that it's not going to happen. Now they're trying to spread hate against the new universe.
@@thegoodstuff3148 Doesn't matter if the momentum is lost that's why there's a reboot.
Remember how much Marvel sucked until Iron Man came out. Ghost Rider, Hulk, Spider Man 3, Daredevil, Elektra, Punisher etc
Snyder was the worst choice imaginable to head the DCEU. I cannot imagine why they hired him considering how much money he'd already lost them after Watchmen bombed. His best movies are super long and R rated, he had no business being the face of a PG13 theatrically released extended universe.
for me its sad and very frustrated that DC fans or synder fans/cavill fans are blaming James gunn for the fall of synderverse cuz of hamada's and old executives. th old regime is the one who fucked up synder vision! not Gunn nor seffran or David saslav, none of those three deserve to get hate cuz those three had the only balls or the one' s who really cared to change DC movies and put it on the right track. yes! its unfortunate and very terrible on removing synderverse cuz even me i loved synder did on those characters but gunn isnt the person to blame here. the old regime is the one who fcked up synder and stab him the back multiple times and even reshoots his movies without his consent.
thats why im glad that now we have a leaders of dc studio that actually care to make a comicbook movies and that the story connects on DC comics. finally we have a dc studio leaders that actually doing their job to make an universe to us DC fans. Synder did his best and for me he has the best JL movie adaptation but Gunn doesnt deserve to get hated on cuz he wasnt the one that destroyed the synderverse.
True. Gunn and Safran literally found the body in decomposition that was the DCEU, so they didn't have any other choice that wasn't a reboot of the universe.
Dc fans are with gunn
They gave the keys to the kingdom to the wrong guy. Zack Snyder was always the wrong choice for that world and those characters. It's dirt simple. The fact that we still have people "JuSt gIvE HiM aNoThEr $200000000 aNd AnOtHeR fOuR YeArS tO Do hIs ThInG🤤" is the real mind-boggler.
Lmao all Snyder fans are incels
Given how desperate WB is right now I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it anyway.
With the condition dc is in nobody wins. The people who liked Zack Snyders Versions of these characters? Gone. The People who liked the solo less interconnected films? Gone? Batman fans? Better to stick with Math Reeves. Flash Fans? Don’t even get me started
Ppl who liked snyder was minority snyder cut flopped
They way these movies cam out seemed rushed as fuck
It was like if marvel started with iron man then immediately jumped to captain America civil war then to gardians of the galaxy then to black widow then to avengers
You are right in the first sentence, but the comparison is the most dumbass shit someone could have ever read.
no wonder they are starting a new dc universe
I honestly don't know that James Gunn will fulfill the expectations being sought after, but time will tell.
It surely can't be worse then what came before. I've heard that The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker were good.
Let's see where it goes.
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The Suicide Squad is much superior than the 2016 version, they finally got Harley character right
Peacemaker was lit also
You forgot to mention how Warner bros took out 30min of important footage in Batman v Superman that caused the bad reviews for the movies
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#ReleaseTheAyerCut
Let it go
Is this a joke, in the beginning of video u say u have a dceu expert, yet you left out the most pivotal point of this story asnd WHY everything went off rails, you basically omitted it, and you actually make statement that “zack snyder had creative control with bvs” 🤣🤣, like yea in process of shooting movie he did, but #1 wb forced him to rush story (which he still did awsome job of in the 3 films we got), and also the biggest mess up of all, THE STUDIO HACKED A HALF HOUR OF IMPORTANT STORY OUT OF THEATRICAL CUT AT LAST MIN, and the movie was incoherent and didnt make sense because of that, the ULTIMATE EDITION was the movie zack intended to release, but wb wanted to cut time down to get more seats filled in a day in theaters, and THAT is why the critical response was so bad, and THAT is what started the snowball effect that lead to them destroying JL too, they announced the “ultimate edition” on dvd, during like 2nd week of theatrical box office run, cause once critics reviews started dropping and no one understood plot, they realized they were idiots, and when UE was released many of those critics changed there opinion,but unfortunately the damage had been done in public, and from that point on WB leadership wanted to save there own asses, and decided to use “zacks vision” as the scapegoat to blame it on, when it WAS REALLY THEIR INTERFERENCE, they are really 2 different movies comprehension wise, like in theatrical the motivations or why whats happening is happening are all unclear, or just flat out portrayed to audience wrong or not how snyder intended, but the UE its clear from opening sequence that lex is one doing everything and controlling literally every thing every character in movie does thru his genius behind scenes manipulation, he had lois hired n sent to desert, cause he knew sups wud come save her, he sent kg beast n his crew to kill the africans at same time n melt bodies so it looked like sups heat vision killed them, all lex framing sups, the fact that lex is one who starts having the “bat branded” criminals killed in jail, so it looks like batman wanted them killed on purpose, the way lex uses batman as pawn in his plan, and lets batman think he is “stealing” the kryptonite, when really he was doing exactly what lex wanted, but lex was smart enuff to know bats wudnt just willingly work with him, lex making the african lady lie in court to frame sups, and the whole scene where she goes n tells senator truth, and then kg beast kills her in subway, and u see this happen right before capitol blows up, and you know at that point as viewer, that the senator knows lex set it all up, and LEX knows, she knows truth literally moments before blowing her up in capitol, lois investigating whole movie and uncovering lexs plan to us the audience too lot was removed, even the set ups for justice league like the kryptonian ship showing lex about steppenwolf and the mother boxes at the end (with the ORIGINAL steppenwolf design that was used in ZSJL NOT whedon one🙄) like it was so funny to me when people thought that steppenwolf design was new in 2021 lol it was literally in bvs lol, theres just so much that makes sense in ultimate edition, that is just straight wrongly represented or confusing in theatrical cause of missing context, cause the studio was really also trying to sell the “B” vs “S” aspect, like as if it was “GvK” to audience, but thats not what movie was meant to be, it wasnt even suppose to be called bvs, it was really “dawn of justice”, which is really what it is, the prelude to JL, and the trinity meeting, in comics bats n sups have fight when they first meet, it wasnt meant to be an “event”, it was more a sub plot of the origin of their friendship n the league,....im biggest snyder fan ever, and bvs:UE is my fav movie of all time PERIOD, like ZSJL is my fav “CBM”, but bvs:UE is my fave movie in any genre overall, but i will be first to admit that the theatrical was an incoherent mess, and i havnt watched it since UE was released, and it is NOT zacks intended movie and it sucks, and THAT was what made critics react bad, that in turn spread to internet hate, etc etc, honestly its amazing it still made like 900mil despite wb’s interference, but the truth is, if you look at the difference in response to UE, i think its abundantly clear that if the studio wouldnt have been greedy to have more runtimes in day, and they would have just realeased the full 3hr movie in first place, and not a hacked up shell of it, then they wud have made that extra 100mil,, would have crossed billion, which was there goal at time n why they deemed 900mil a failure(cause of what was going on across pond at mcu, even tho was 2nd film in franchise) and then josstice league never would have happened, snyder would have finished JL2&3 and his story 2 years ago😢
Like to me BvS:UE is a genius “superman vs lex” story, one of best ever, and what makes it even better is we get batman being used as pawn in lexs plan, because hes so blinded by his own fears n rage, that he dosent even realize hes falling for it till hes about to plunge a kryptonite spear into sups chest
The UE was only a bit better though
Both cuts are horribl
I got to see the Batman Vs Superman movie for free. At the end of the movie, I wanted a refund.😖
BvS was sabotaged by the WB shills. The film was censored and butchered. The WB shills forced Snyder to remove 30 minutes of footage for the theatrical release. And after that, they completely DESTROYED Justice League with the aid of the abuser Joss Whedon. That's why all the WB execs were FIRED and now the company is 50 BILLIONS in debt. BvS: Ultimate Edition is one of the best comic book movies ever made.
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@@darkseid6898 thanks Darkseid for your informative and concise insight into the politics of Warner Brothers.
The narrator’s sounds like he’s reading his book report to the entire class. 😂
And he's bored as hell
James gunn is the key
No, Lois is the key 😉
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Yeah the key to failure that’s for sure
@@filmgoblin5016 Thats what people say when gunn starts filming Gog1 and then the saem people who said that rdies his meat later on😂
@@maximusprime3459 😐
"one of the best selling blurays and 4K blurays of 2021"
Narrator : "Indeed it wasnt. It was Wonder woman 1984 which topped the charts of physical media in 2021"
🤣🤣True
Is anyone excited for the new DCU?
Yes
Me
@@Chadcat180 let's hope Gunn doesn't llet you down then, but I highly doubt it =/
Black Adam....did...Okay?.........................393 millions vs a budget of 260 is NOT OKAY that's a flop.